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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, wake up?
Speaker 3: What what is it?
Speaker 4: You hear that?
Speaker 5: Hear?
Speaker 6: What the hell is that?
Speaker 7: What is it?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 2: A bear?
Speaker 6: A bear in the swamp?
Speaker 2: I think that's in the cooler.
Speaker 3: I told you we should have brought it inside with us.
Speaker 2: We barely have enough room as it is. Can you
Speaker 2: just what scare it off?
Speaker 6: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, fine, fine, yeah, I'm sure it's just it's.
Speaker 6: Just, oh my god, what is it that? It is
Speaker 6: not a bard.
Speaker 9: The surviving camper does not appear to be seriously injured,
Speaker 9: aside from a large hand frend shaped roof. The camper
Speaker 9: claim they were attacked by quote a huge, hairy bigfoot.
Speaker 9: An official from the Department of Parks and Recreation said
Speaker 9: this is the first very related death in the area
Speaker 9: since nineteen seventy eight and would caution visitors to always
Speaker 9: keep an eye out for wildlife with camping and to
Speaker 9: not leave moved out it can't attract animals. As for
Speaker 9: any bigfoot dangers, well, it would see the first time
Speaker 9: someone has made that claim.
Speaker 2: If you're in talk Walk, Peyton Blake, you must be viippin' Kurna.
Speaker 7: Thank you for meeting me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Jeremy assured me he wasn't just sending the
Speaker 8: Bee team to chat because he couldn't be bothered. So
Speaker 8: I assume you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 7: Wow, Okay, that is a hostile way to introduce yourself
Speaker 7: to someone.
Speaker 8: Excuse me for being blunt, but there aren't a lot
Speaker 8: of people that I trust with discussing these matters openly.
Speaker 7: But you trust Jeremy. I hear your first meeting was
Speaker 7: a bit of a.
Speaker 8: I understand Jeremy's stake in all of this. He's connected
Speaker 8: to the other side, whether he likes it or not. You,
Speaker 8: I don't know or the nature of your interest in this.
Speaker 7: I'm getting my PhD in mythology and I've just discovered
Speaker 7: that magic and monsters are real? Is that a good
Speaker 7: enough reason?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: Academic curiosity is why he wanted to talk to me.
Speaker 7: The truth is why I wanted to talk to you.
Speaker 7: Why did you want to talk to Jeremy.
Speaker 2: To get him to accept the truth.
Speaker 7: That Thomas needs to go back into the what did
Speaker 7: you call it?
Speaker 8: The liminal that Jeremy is in possession of a gift
Speaker 8: that was never meant to be given.
Speaker 6: Okay, I know we're still not totally sold on her,
Speaker 6: but it really seems like we'd be dead if it
Speaker 6: wasn't for Peyton.
Speaker 5: Really, I thought you were perfectly capable of fighting big monsters.
Speaker 6: Look, look, I'm sorry about the other day. Okay, I
Speaker 6: shouldn't have been so hard on you.
Speaker 3: No, I get it.
Speaker 5: You've been a cop your whole life, and you probably
Speaker 5: see what I do as frivolous.
Speaker 6: It clearly isn't your knowledge about this stuff might save
Speaker 6: our lives? It might save my life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it didn't serve me any good against that Howler.
Speaker 5: Well god, I mean, there have been sightings of Bigfoot
Speaker 5: for years around here, but there's never been a death.
Speaker 5: It's just these scattered bits of evidence over.
Speaker 6: Time, what kind of evidence, like I don't know, you know.
Speaker 5: Large bipedal footprints, which obviously plenty of hoaxers are created
Speaker 5: in the past in order to drum up press or attention,
Speaker 5: or just for the sheer joy of pranking people. But
Speaker 5: now all of it feels like an indicator of something
Speaker 5: much much more dangerous than any popular conception of a
Speaker 5: sad squatch.
Speaker 6: I don't understand how it could have come back so
Speaker 6: quickly from the other side.
Speaker 3: I don't either.
Speaker 5: Maybe Peyton didn't banish it properly or fuck, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe the fay Realm is able to send it right
Speaker 5: out again.
Speaker 6: Not good. Those Rooine carvings are the only prediction we
Speaker 6: have right now.
Speaker 5: So if they barely give us any time to breathe, Yeah,
Speaker 5: And there's also no reason to think that there's only
Speaker 5: one of these monsters.
Speaker 6: Is that supposed to be comforting?
Speaker 5: If if, if we can't spend all of our time
Speaker 5: waiting for the worst thing to happen.
Speaker 6: The worst has happened, Jeremy, someone is dead.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, we have to look at what's right
Speaker 5: in front of us, Okay, we have to gather as
Speaker 5: much information as we can right now. Vippin is talking
Speaker 5: to Peyton, Anne and Olivia or.
Speaker 6: Why is Vippin talking to Peyton?
Speaker 3: What do you mean she's.
Speaker 5: Trying to get more specifics from her on what the
Speaker 5: gathering might know.
Speaker 6: I think she told us everything that she knows. He
Speaker 6: shouldn't have bothered with her.
Speaker 5: Well, she actually reached out to me. She wanted to
Speaker 5: talk to me for some reason.
Speaker 3: Why. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5: So I told her that she could say whatever it
Speaker 5: was to Vippen and he wanted to meet her anyway.
Speaker 6: Are you okay? What's going on? I'm fine? Are you sure?
Speaker 6: You seem it's just look, I don't want us running
Speaker 6: around in circles, that's all ough.
Speaker 4: I just feel like we're going in circles.
Speaker 10: Oh, I actually think the problem is we haven't found
Speaker 10: any circles.
Speaker 4: Oh, you think you're funny to look.
Speaker 7: It was a long shot anyways, but.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't have been. Right, Like, we know for a
Speaker 4: fact that Alden got lost somewhere around here, and there's
Speaker 4: no way he could have wandered all the way to Freetown.
Speaker 4: And Thomas said that Alden remembers walking into a forest, so.
Speaker 10: Well, it's not like we combed through every bush.
Speaker 4: Rahoba State Forest is like half a square mile. Hey,
Speaker 4: we searched the whole thing. I know it was eighty
Speaker 4: years ago, but I was hoping for something. A circle
Speaker 4: of mushrooms, a weird path of flowers, out of place.
Speaker 10: Tree, doorway to another world.
Speaker 4: What if it wasn't even about the mushroom circle. Mushrooms
Speaker 4: grow in weird formations all the time, and just because
Speaker 4: it stuck out in Alden's mind doesn't mean that's the
Speaker 4: way he.
Speaker 2: Got taken in. What if it was something even more innocuous.
Speaker 10: Well, then we might have walked right past the evidence
Speaker 10: and not even known it exactly.
Speaker 4: I just I want to know where the tracks are, because.
Speaker 2: Then I won't fall in.
Speaker 10: Honey, I don't think it's as straightforward as that.
Speaker 7: Live.
Speaker 10: You know, you have to be willing, or you're supposed
Speaker 10: to be willing, and you know well enough not to
Speaker 10: go follow in strange voices in the woods.
Speaker 4: Yeah, except that's all we're actually doing. I was starting
Speaker 4: to think maybe there was some kind of Bradshaw Hoskins
Speaker 4: family curse. But maybe it's just the way we are,
Speaker 4: like something in our blood that makes us want to
Speaker 4: walk right into places we shouldn't.
Speaker 10: I don't think that's just a Bradshaw Hoskins straight Plenty
Speaker 10: of folks would say the exact same thing about me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've got a doubly bad first Thomas, then Jeremy,
Speaker 4: then Ethan.
Speaker 10: I mean, who's next Jeremy didn't get taken.
Speaker 4: But you don't think he's just wandered off to you. No,
Speaker 4: the messed up thing is part of me wants to see.
Speaker 7: It, see what the other side.
Speaker 4: Oh live, I mean, come on, aren't you curious.
Speaker 11: It's like Narnia, Evil Narnia.
Speaker 4: I mean, Narnia was kind of evil Narnia during the
Speaker 4: whole Eternal Winter bit live. No, I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go doing a weird sacrificial ritual to try and
Speaker 4: walk through the wardrobe or anything. I'm just saying that
Speaker 4: impulse is there. Maybe that's why our family has been
Speaker 4: so easy to lure, because there's something in us that
Speaker 4: already wants to go.
Speaker 10: But people don't even get to the other side. They
Speaker 10: get stuck in between. And I think we both know
Speaker 10: that that's not an enviable fate.
Speaker 4: Now, people don't get to the other side as far
Speaker 4: as we know. But it's not like you can send
Speaker 4: a text back and say, hey, I'm in Fairyland. They
Speaker 4: got great food here, never coming back, so we would
Speaker 4: never know text.
Speaker 10: It was a joke, No, no, I know, but it
Speaker 10: made me think there's a question we haven't been asking.
Speaker 11: All Right, fine, you got questions, ask them.
Speaker 7: How does the Gathering know about the pay, real, about
Speaker 7: the deal, about any of it.
Speaker 8: It's the whole reason the Gathering exists. What the Gathering
Speaker 8: is just the most current iteration of a community that's
Speaker 8: been in operation in one form or another for centuries,
Speaker 8: stewards of the gate between worlds.
Speaker 7: You're telling me there's an exclusive club that's been around
Speaker 7: for hundreds of years that controls mystical forces. You know
Speaker 7: how that sounds? Right?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 8: And it's not like that. There's no controlling this thing.
Speaker 8: There's just knowledge.
Speaker 7: Oh and human sacrifice to some kind of otherworldly force
Speaker 7: that has to be.
Speaker 8: Appeased for the last time. It is not human sacrifice.
Speaker 7: Oh, so the Gathering is the one group in the
Speaker 7: entire world who knows about magic, and it's entirely up
Speaker 7: to them to keep the tenuous veil from ripping open
Speaker 7: and unleashing some kind of fairy chaos.
Speaker 8: Do you want me to tell you what I know?
Speaker 8: Or do you just want to ride my work and
Speaker 8: get out whatever frustration that's pent up?
Speaker 7: Okay, you have to understand that this is all a
Speaker 7: bit well. I mean, you weren't born knowing the stuff right.
Speaker 7: At some point you have to be told that's true.
Speaker 8: But I was told so young that it feels like
Speaker 8: I basically was born with this knowledge. My father was
Speaker 8: the Virginia chapter leader before me. I've been going to
Speaker 8: gathering meetings my whole life. Saw a snally gaster for
Speaker 8: the first time when I was twelve, learned about the deal.
Speaker 8: When I was sixteen, you saw.
Speaker 7: A snally caster, a real snallycaster, like the reptile bird thing.
Speaker 8: With the tentacles and all, yeah.
Speaker 7: What what did you? I mean, how did you kill it?
Speaker 2: My dad did?
Speaker 8: The veil there gets really weak at random times and places.
Speaker 8: It's even more fickle than here, or at least it
Speaker 8: had been.
Speaker 7: So it wasn't like there was something wrong with the liminal.
Speaker 8: No, our rituals have moved like clockwork for at least
Speaker 8: the last century. But that's not the only way. Stuff
Speaker 8: slips through too much a cult or pagan activity. Everything
Speaker 8: from wickens doing their normal practice and not realizing it's
Speaker 8: having side effects, to a group of people on a
Speaker 8: ghost tour that are buying into the stories a little
Speaker 8: too much. It can all leave the door.
Speaker 7: Ajar, Wait, so are you saying that the gate is
Speaker 7: opened by belief and closed by belief as well. Why
Speaker 7: do you think there were so many reports of the
Speaker 7: supernatural in the past. It was more accepted, more people
Speaker 7: actually believed, so more stuff bled through. Chicken and egg,
Speaker 7: round and round. What It's just, it's ridiculous, like clap
Speaker 7: if you believe in fairies and they'll stay alive, that's true.
Speaker 8: I mean, Peter Pan got everything else wrong. But all
Speaker 8: stories have a grain of truth in them, right, even
Speaker 8: if it's a really tiny grain of truth.
Speaker 7: I wanted to believe before I knew any of it
Speaker 7: was real. I really wanted to believe, to experience something
Speaker 7: that defied explanation, and then to be the one to
Speaker 7: find the explanation.
Speaker 2: You didn't break the gates wide open. Don't worry. One
Speaker 2: person can't do all that much.
Speaker 7: Except close the gate by giving themselves over to the liminal. Yeah,
Speaker 7: except that, I don't get it. If the gathering knows
Speaker 7: all of this, why didn't Celesti just tell us? And
Speaker 7: how did you get the ritual wrong?
Speaker 8: Secrets are order to keep the more people you tell
Speaker 8: only gathering leadership is told the truth by the outgoing leaders,
Speaker 8: and chapters don't communicate as much with each other, as
Speaker 8: we should.
Speaker 7: But Celeste was a leader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something.
Speaker 8: Something went wrong here, Yeah, no kidding. From what I understand,
Speaker 8: things sort of fractured here in the seventies.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was an offshoot, the Children of Titchiba. They
Speaker 7: were more on the side of propping the door open
Speaker 7: for good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that happens. That happens bad leaders have been chosen.
Speaker 8: Sometimes someone finds out about the other world and kind
Speaker 8: of loses it.
Speaker 7: And that's what you think the Children of Titchibo was.
Speaker 8: I think after the children, everything here broke down. No
Speaker 8: one knew how things were supposed to go. So when
Speaker 8: it came time to keep the fay Realm happy.
Speaker 7: Eh, no one knew how. Okay, But how does that work?
Speaker 7: If all it takes is one person to not pass
Speaker 7: down the information for everything to go heywire, then how
Speaker 7: are we.
Speaker 8: Not constantly on the verge of collapse? Who says we
Speaker 8: aren't think about it? There are still sightings and encounters
Speaker 8: all over the world All the time. People see Bigfoot,
Speaker 8: they think they've been abducted by aliens. Boats disappear at sea,
Speaker 8: kids go missing. Most of the time those things are
Speaker 8: the result of human behavior or cruelty, but sometimes sometimes
Speaker 8: it's the other side bleeding through.
Speaker 7: And how many of these gates are in the world?
Speaker 7: Does every state have them? Every country?
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 8: I know I seem like I'm an expert, but I'm not.
Speaker 8: I'm an expert in my area, and I'm tapped in
Speaker 8: just enough to know that something was wrong up here.
Speaker 8: But there is so much of the picture that I
Speaker 8: don't see, right.
Speaker 7: But what about your dad. I'm assuming he's retired now,
Speaker 7: but he must have learned a lot when he was
Speaker 7: a leader.
Speaker 8: He's not retired, he's gone.
Speaker 7: Oh I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: We knew it was coming.
Speaker 3: He was sick.
Speaker 8: No, he left. That's how it works in Virginia. Becoming
Speaker 8: leader of the gathering means eventually stepping into the liminal.
Speaker 8: What so he was the volunteer. Yeah, it's cleaner that way.
Speaker 8: The secret gets kept and no one ends up in
Speaker 8: a place they don't want to. The leader gets to
Speaker 8: prepare their successor before they go, and they know they'll
Speaker 8: eventually be replaced in the liminal.
Speaker 7: Replaced, what does that mean?
Speaker 8: It's a temporary center. They move on, move on where
Speaker 8: that I definitely don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe just death. Whatever that is.
Speaker 8: My dad always thought it meant going over to the
Speaker 8: other side completely, living in the kingdom. I think you
Speaker 8: liked the idea of being in a magical world, monsters
Speaker 8: and all. I'm kind of hoping for disappearing entirely. I
Speaker 8: don't know that I'm on board for eternal life in
Speaker 8: some other place.
Speaker 7: You you're the replacement.
Speaker 2: So the story goes.
Speaker 7: Why in the world would you agree to that.
Speaker 8: I get to live a full life before then, have
Speaker 8: a family if I want, mentor someone protect the world,
Speaker 8: and I'm gonna die anyway, so this is just adding
Speaker 8: a pit stop.
Speaker 7: Thomas said it didn't feel like forty years.
Speaker 2: It felt shorter.
Speaker 7: It's unclear. I think he couldn't tell. I think sometimes
Speaker 7: it felt endless with that because he didn't age. It
Speaker 7: also felt like no time at all. But I'm sure
Speaker 7: it's different for every person.
Speaker 8: Well, he's the only one who's ever come out after
Speaker 8: going in, so he's probably the best source of intel
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get.
Speaker 7: Look, I know you want him to go back in.
Speaker 8: I don't want anything except for the deal to be
Speaker 8: honored and the gate to be shut. If someone else
Speaker 8: wants to go in, they are more than welcome to.
Speaker 8: But what kind of life could he have now? Really,
Speaker 8: he's been declared dead for decades. He can't undeclare himself
Speaker 8: without becoming some sort of government pincushion.
Speaker 7: And people steal identities, you know.
Speaker 8: Sure, but then what hmm? He watches his son most
Speaker 8: likely die before him, He loses his wife before he's
Speaker 8: even fifty.
Speaker 7: They never actually got married, Ann and Thomas. I mean,
Speaker 7: that's not my point. And they seem pretty till death
Speaker 7: do us part regardless, and one of their deaths is
Speaker 7: going to come a lot sooner than the others. But
Speaker 7: he barely got to live the first time. He has
Speaker 7: a daughter and a grandson. He has never met a
Speaker 7: son who's grown up without.
Speaker 8: Him, and that will never not be a tragedy. But
Speaker 8: he can't get it back. Even if he had the
Speaker 8: whole happy family unit in place, he would never get
Speaker 8: that time back.
Speaker 6: So I was thinking, maybe tonight you and I could
Speaker 6: go out, grab a beer, get a burger somewhere.
Speaker 5: I'd have thought that you would want to go back
Speaker 5: to Anne and share what we've found.
Speaker 6: I think we can take one night off without the
Speaker 6: world ending.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a very different tune from what you were
Speaker 5: singing earlier. Look, I just I don't know how much
Speaker 5: time I have.
Speaker 3: Please, please don't talk like that.
Speaker 6: No matter what happens, I want to make sure to
Speaker 6: spend time with my son. Maybe we can even make
Speaker 6: it a new tradition. Pick a place, go there every week,
Speaker 6: just the two of us.
Speaker 5: That does sound good, That sounds great.
Speaker 6: It'll take a while for me to catch up on
Speaker 6: all that I've missed. I want to hear about California
Speaker 6: and Oxford and she's everything.
Speaker 5: Really, God, I don't know where to start. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 5: there's not a lot to tell. I'm afraid I spend
Speaker 5: most of my time in California and Oxford in class.
Speaker 6: Well, I want to hear all about it. Maybe I
Speaker 6: could even come out to one of your lectures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might have to wait.
Speaker 5: My students this semester are well aware enough of who
Speaker 5: you are that I'm not sure that they'd be fooled
Speaker 5: with your updated haircut.
Speaker 6: Fine next semester, then, and in the meantime, you can
Speaker 6: tell me what you do outside of teaching.
Speaker 3: You mean, like now present day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we still have about a half a mile.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I go to conferences sometimes, I meet with other academics,
Speaker 5: swap research.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: There's usually some kind of faculty gathering once a semester,
Speaker 5: but you know, school, and I've been working on the book,
Speaker 5: so these things keep me pretty busy.
Speaker 6: How about friends, mat a girlfriend?
Speaker 5: Huh oh, yeah, I've never been much of a I
Speaker 5: don't know. I guess I'm not a super social person.
Speaker 5: And dating just always has felt like it's too I
Speaker 5: don't know, it's more trouble in it's worth.
Speaker 6: Dating.
Speaker 3: Must have changed.
Speaker 6: You never wanted to get married have a family.
Speaker 3: I just never.
Speaker 5: I haven't met anyone that I had interest in sharing
Speaker 5: my whole life with. And I don't think I would
Speaker 5: honestly make a very good father.
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 5: What I mean, God, you must be dying for human
Speaker 5: interaction after having spent forty years with a kid.
Speaker 6: I've always loved kids before. You were my favorite person
Speaker 6: to spend time with.
Speaker 3: I was a baby, I was a toddler.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not famously good demo for conversations.
Speaker 6: You were wonderful, curious, You're funny, always loving. You were
Speaker 6: so open, so giving kids off and are But it
Speaker 6: was like nothing scared you, was like nothing could hurt you.
Speaker 6: I have this like memory of just a feeling so.
Speaker 3: Safe when I was with you, and now.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what you mean?
Speaker 6: Did I.
Speaker 3: Then what happened?
Speaker 6: You're not that open and trusting boy anymore. I mean,
Speaker 6: from what you just said, you've kept yourself guarded alone.
Speaker 6: It feels like that's because I left.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, that you didn't leave.
Speaker 6: But it's still my fault. Isn't it that you don't
Speaker 6: have a full life, that you're unhappy?
Speaker 3: Whoa who said? I'm not happy? My life is plentiful.
Speaker 5: Just because it doesn't look the same as yours or
Speaker 5: what you maybe expected for me, doesn't mean that I'm
Speaker 5: not fulfilled.
Speaker 6: So you are fulfilled. You're not lonely, you're wanting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, of course there are things that I
Speaker 5: want or ways that things could be better. But you
Speaker 5: didn't condemn me to some life of misery because because
Speaker 5: you because you went missing. Plenty of people grow up
Speaker 5: without two parents and they turn out just fine.
Speaker 6: I know I was one of them, but that's not
Speaker 6: It wasn't just about me going away, it was the
Speaker 6: way it happened.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you want me to say here, Dan,
Speaker 5: that growing up with people telling me that my dad
Speaker 5: was killed by a cult wasn't traumatizing. I can't say that,
Speaker 5: and it did shape the person who I am today.
Speaker 3: But there is no.
Speaker 5: Way for me to know what I would have become
Speaker 5: if you had stayed around. I mean, god, if I
Speaker 5: had been raised by you and Anne, which is what
Speaker 5: would have happened, right.
Speaker 6: Your mother and I we were figuring out shared custody.
Speaker 6: But yes, I mean the plan was for you to
Speaker 6: live with us.
Speaker 5: Look, I none of this matters right now, not really.
Speaker 3: Because I grew up the way I grew up.
Speaker 5: I am the person that I am now, and there's
Speaker 5: nothing that any of us can do to change that
Speaker 5: unless we I don't know if I figure out how
Speaker 5: to use magic to time travel or something. But until
Speaker 5: that time, we are stuck with what we have. And
Speaker 5: that's just fine, okay. I just I don't want your
Speaker 5: life to be fine, Jeremy. Then stay, don't listen to Peyton,
Speaker 5: don't don't try to do something selfless.
Speaker 3: Just stay, stay and help me figure this out.
Speaker 6: I already promised you I would, But I also promised
Speaker 6: Alden I would get him out.
Speaker 5: Right. Then we'll figure that out too, Okay, come on,
Speaker 5: we got to keep going.
Speaker 3: And for the record, I'm not lonely.
Speaker 6: Okay, Olivia said that Vippin is probably your closest friend.
Speaker 2: The fuck.
Speaker 5: Why are you and Olivia talking about my social life.
Speaker 6: I'm curious about you, Jeremy. I don't want you to
Speaker 6: be isolated.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Vippin is a good friend.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, we work together, but I also like
Speaker 5: to think that we get along too.
Speaker 3: I had a great catch up just now with Sophie.
Speaker 6: Where you talked about the Fay Realm, that Bluss.
Speaker 5: There's this legend trip that I just met. She's becoming
Speaker 5: a friend, actually, honestly, the fastest friend I've made in years.
Speaker 5: We've got similar interests and she's I don't know, she's
Speaker 5: easy to talk to. She seems to understand me, which,
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, it's a little bit rare. And anyway,
Speaker 5: the point is, I'm just I really don't feel lonely,
Speaker 5: all right, all.
Speaker 6: Right, I just never pictured you as a I don't know,
Speaker 6: an eternal bachelor living with Justice books for company.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's a bit harsh. Don't you think
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to criticize. Really, No, I'm just I'm
Speaker 5: trying to understand. Wow, when look when I was your age, Dad,
Speaker 5: You've never been my age, literally, never been my age.
Speaker 6: You're right, I just want you to be happy. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's all. That's the only thing any parent wants say.
Speaker 5: Can you please just accept that my happiest life might
Speaker 5: look different from yours.
Speaker 3: No spouse, no kids, no job. That means carrying around
Speaker 3: a badge and a gun.
Speaker 5: I like my life and I I will be happy
Speaker 5: when we figure out how to protect you.
Speaker 10: Okay, Okay, I don't know why I wasn't the first
Speaker 10: thing we asked him about.
Speaker 4: There's a lot going on, Nana. I think you can
Speaker 4: be forgiven for not taking him down the list of
Speaker 4: unanswered questions.
Speaker 10: But now we know, we know it really was him
Speaker 10: on the answering machine. He found a way to communicate somehow,
Speaker 10: So if we figure that out.
Speaker 4: We could figure out a lot about the liminal exactly.
Speaker 5: And I'm trapped here. I've been trapped. Things are thinning out,
Speaker 5: it's opening again.
Speaker 10: He was trying to warn us, and when he first
Speaker 10: came out, he said it was hearing celess voice. So
Speaker 10: maybe there's a way to communicate to the limonal, not
Speaker 10: just from it.
Speaker 4: Has he mentioned anything about that?
Speaker 10: No, he hasn't, but like you said, there's been a
Speaker 10: lot to focus on.
Speaker 3: So sure.
Speaker 4: But if he knows something about how all this works
Speaker 4: and isn't telling us, well, I just we should ask him.
Speaker 10: I guess no, Thomas would knowingly keep anything from us.
Speaker 7: That would be useful, right, yeah, and I know.
Speaker 10: Okay, So when he and Jeremy get back from that campsite,
Speaker 10: we can play him the message, ask him what he
Speaker 10: did to try to get it out and what he
Speaker 10: meant by it, and then maybe we can get word
Speaker 10: into Alden and coordinate with him to try to break
Speaker 10: the deal somehow. He's seven, well he's been seven for
Speaker 10: eighty years. I'm a feeling he's more confident than your
Speaker 10: typical first grader.
Speaker 4: That's a good point, okay, So if we are able
Speaker 4: to communicate with the in between that and then maybe.
Speaker 7: What the hell?
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, just stay calm live.
Speaker 1: Is this what happened before?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're sure it's not an earthquake?
Speaker 2: Do you hear that? What music? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You hear it?
Speaker 10: Right, it's a I think it's coming from the other side.
Speaker 7: It has to be.
Speaker 2: You mean the liminal, No the other side.
Speaker 5: All right here we are all right. Yeah, something definitely
Speaker 5: came through her. Look how much brush is trampled. Some
Speaker 5: of that could have been the campers that got out
Speaker 5: of here in a hurry. But we should look for
Speaker 5: any footprints or fur or hair, anything that would give
Speaker 5: us an indication of what attacked them if it was
Speaker 5: the same thing that almost attacked us.
Speaker 6: Lots of human footprints, the regular kind.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm no forensics expert, but those look like
Speaker 5: two distinct shoe treads, and those would be the campers.
Speaker 6: Thank god for muddy ground. Wait ooh over here, look
Speaker 6: at these deep punctures in the ground.
Speaker 3: Ten stakes.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, look those are here. I recognize the
Speaker 6: formation from them when I used to go camping with
Speaker 6: these five in a.
Speaker 3: Row, Like whatever attack that cow?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Did the howler have five claws? Did? Did you get
Speaker 3: a good look at it?
Speaker 6: I wasn't actually paying attention to the fine details.
Speaker 5: And why would there be just claw prints? There's no footprints?
Speaker 6: Well, the thing we saw standing was on two legs,
Speaker 6: so maybe it was on its toes basically, you know,
Speaker 6: pushing its claws into the mud for leverage, right right, Wait, here.
Speaker 6: There's two more prints with five claws here too, Like
Speaker 6: its front paws or something.
Speaker 5: Those are much smaller than the hands we saw. God,
Speaker 5: it might not even be the same animal. Hell, these
Speaker 5: prints could just be from a regular old bear or something.
Speaker 5: Every time we get to one of these crime scenes,
Speaker 5: I just feel like I'm further away from all of it.
Speaker 6: You were, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just the stiff bones.
Speaker 6: My joints have been sore all day, shaking off the dust.
Speaker 6: I guess, dad.
Speaker 3: What if?
Speaker 6: Wait? Maybe it's a shape shifter. There's plenty of those
Speaker 6: in folklore, right, yeah, all kinds there's.
Speaker 3: Did you hear that?
Speaker 6: Must be more campers?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Maybe there there, it's coming from over here.
Speaker 6: No, no, it's it sounds like a woman.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something about it.
Speaker 3: I can almost make her out.
Speaker 5: Hello someone there?
Speaker 3: Wait you control.
Speaker 6: Son? Are you okay?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, my god, it's not possible.
Speaker 6: What is not possible?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm that voice, that voice, I know that voice?
Speaker 8: What who is it?
Speaker 3: Celeste?
Speaker 8: You can trust to?
Speaker 1: This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and
Speaker 1: directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes Assistant director Sarah Kleine. Sound
Speaker 1: designed by Vincent De Johnny Rima El Kali, Josh Thayin,
Speaker 1: and Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson, Starring Misha
Speaker 1: Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan
Speaker 1: Tudik as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana, Sabra
Speaker 1: May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will
Speaker 1: Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper,
Speaker 1: Stephen Guarino as Doctor Edwards, Non Demi su Dmbe as
Speaker 1: Peyton Blake, Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley
Speaker 1: as Celeste Then, Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional
Speaker 1: voice acting by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam o'byrn Monte, Markham,
Speaker 1: Charlie Bergman, and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Mankey, Misha Collins,
Speaker 1: Lauren Shippen, Matt Frederick and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh
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