Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
Speaker 1: talks back. What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in
Speaker 1: for a new episode that we talked back. It's your
Speaker 1: co host a j Holiday. Thank you for tuning in. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: ask me official tam Bam. I love y'all. Thank you
Speaker 1: all for joining us one more time. We got a
Speaker 1: guest with us for today, the fabulous Jackie. Fabulous. Hey girl,
Speaker 1: Hey girl, thank you for having me. I'm excited, y'all. Listen.
Speaker 1: Jackie is a stand up comedian. She's a writer, she's
Speaker 1: an actor. She's a producer and motivational speaker who has
Speaker 1: been featured on HBOS, That Damn Michael Chi Show, Time,
Speaker 1: nar Change. Sorry, I told you I care read. Listen.
Speaker 1: The listeners know, they know, they know my heart at
Speaker 1: all right Heart having Hearts, l A Network, and more.
Speaker 1: And she currently has um a new special mental Clause
Speaker 1: on all your favorite streaming sad Yes, yeah, give her
Speaker 1: a proper auction, honey, thank you for joining us, girl.
Speaker 1: We want to talk about everything you've done, especially mental Clause.
Speaker 1: I watched it and I laughed my ass off. I
Speaker 1: was high as hell, and I watched it and it
Speaker 1: was so good. I want we have so many questions
Speaker 1: for you about the one hour special, but first we
Speaker 1: want to talk to each other about We always start
Speaker 1: our show with talking to each other about our weekend.
Speaker 1: So how was your weekend, this past weekly, this past well,
Speaker 1: today is what saturday? You mean last weekend? Last weekend past?
Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. My birthday was on Friday. That's why I
Speaker 1: turned up. I don't know where, thank you, I don't
Speaker 1: know where I am. I just stopped ringing a few
Speaker 1: days ago and got back to work yesterday, you know, Monday.
Speaker 1: Comment like, all right, all right, enough of this, back
Speaker 1: to being a freshman woman. So last weekend, this past
Speaker 1: weekend was great. I was in I live in New York.
Speaker 1: That was mine. I was with my guy, you know,
Speaker 1: having a wonderful, loving, peaceful birthday. And then I had
Speaker 1: shows a lot of shows over the weekend in New York.
Speaker 1: So I had a great, a great, blessed, healthy, loving weekend.
Speaker 1: That's congratulations, heavy birthday, guy, yo, My man, my man.
Speaker 1: J Well, how about your weekend? Girl? She'll be lying,
Speaker 1: she'd be lying every week to be in my business,
Speaker 1: Like I don't feel like explaining ship to X or
Speaker 1: explaining ship to somebody who think they my boyfriend. Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't feel what the hell you? What the
Speaker 1: hell you did? You got to explain to any man?
Speaker 1: What what you do? You gotta explain ship? Girl? And
Speaker 1: I did a lot of water, water, water, want man
Speaker 1: over here? Watermelon. Well, I didn't do ship this weekend, y'all.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I really didn't do nothing. I stayed in
Speaker 1: the house. I had been drinking all the whole month
Speaker 1: of July, Like I swear, I drank the whole in time.
Speaker 1: It was my birthday, July sixteen, and that's where I
Speaker 1: drank the whole fucking month. I just needed the talk
Speaker 1: to My level was hurt, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna drink water at home and watch shows. Being
Speaker 1: at home is the best, though sometimes something I remember
Speaker 1: being home coming after work on a Friday night and
Speaker 1: being in my pajamas, are not showering until Monday morning.
Speaker 1: Those are the best weekends where you don't do nothing. Literally, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know about letting my coaches thank all week
Speaker 1: about staking if you are if you are almost naked
Speaker 1: for two days, the vagina is getting a lot of air,
Speaker 1: not around anybody activity. That's what my sister would do.
Speaker 1: She'd come home from work Friday and only get back
Speaker 1: in the shower on Sunday selling drugs. That's the type
Speaker 1: of your drug dealers, dude. We're having a same on
Speaker 1: Friday to Monday. Let me find out Jackie sells drugs.
Speaker 1: Do come? You don't go nowhere? If you don't go nowhere, Okay,
Speaker 1: Usually Sunday I feel like, okay, I should probably shower,
Speaker 1: but I haven't. Yeah, exactly, if there be a weekends
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't have anything to do, I
Speaker 1: don't have any sex to have, I might as well.
Speaker 1: Why would I clean anything? I might as you be
Speaker 1: a grown man Monday. Why do you all assume not
Speaker 1: everybody be funky as hell? I got i'd. I don't
Speaker 1: sweat much. I'm not a sweater. I sweat a lot.
Speaker 1: After after a day, I squad, I'm gonna start smelling
Speaker 1: my coochie. I got to go ahead and get me down,
Speaker 1: squat down. I'll be like, oh, let me go get
Speaker 1: my ass in the smelling During the quarantine, y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: stay like you know, chilling for a day or two
Speaker 1: at least a day of not caring about that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe a day, But after a day, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that squad gonna hit me different. After a day, you
Speaker 1: do get kind of tart. Yeah, but those be the
Speaker 1: best ones that you have nobody else to worry about.
Speaker 1: People watch your shows and get some work done. I
Speaker 1: love the whole weekend, but not me too, Me too.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Yeah, let's get in the stupid internet news.
Speaker 1: What happened this week? Listen? So based on your your
Speaker 1: your show, let's talk about Mindy Kaling. Mendy Kaling explains
Speaker 1: why she wishes parents of college women would take them
Speaker 1: to freeze their eggs instead of giving them regular gifts
Speaker 1: for graduation from college. Do you think about that. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a thing that's eggreasing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Underwatch, Mindy is probably saying, I want all
Speaker 1: young girls to avoid the lights that I've had where
Speaker 1: I've tried to find someone to help me have a family,
Speaker 1: And maybe you should take precautions because you know, we
Speaker 1: still have the mentality of let me wait to find
Speaker 1: a man to have a even though it's changed now,
Speaker 1: we still have that mentality and I guess she's like,
Speaker 1: why don't we change was this way of thinking we've
Speaker 1: had for decades and prepare her to have babies whenever
Speaker 1: she want, with or without a husband. She's a very
Speaker 1: you know, she's not a millennium at all, but she's
Speaker 1: very like progressive of today, and today women are freezing
Speaker 1: everything because they're like, I'm not waiting on a dude,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what it is. They're like, I'm not
Speaker 1: waiting on a man. That's the mentality. So my thing is,
Speaker 1: I do want kids, right, So I'm in my late thirties.
Speaker 1: I do want kids, a kid at this point, but
Speaker 1: I don't want the kid without the husband, like I
Speaker 1: don't want I want a family. There you go, I
Speaker 1: don't just want a kid, I want a family. So
Speaker 1: if I don't get the husband, like I'm not having kids,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that, I wouldn't say I really
Speaker 1: want a microwave baby. But you never know, you never know.
Speaker 1: I turned I turned fifty one on Friday, and I'm
Speaker 1: of the mentality where I'm like, I would yet down, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't think I want one. Now.
Speaker 1: I've gotten pretty useful life without But if you had
Speaker 1: caught me like three or four years ago, for five
Speaker 1: years ago, I would have been like, I'll do what
Speaker 1: I gotta do to at least have one, Like you're
Speaker 1: at least one. Can I have one? Small one? Can
Speaker 1: I get a seven year old? I like seven year
Speaker 1: old kids. Oh, they're conversations. That's why they can talk exactly.
Speaker 1: But at nineteen are you thinking about like, for first
Speaker 1: of all, and freezing your eggs are expensive. It's not
Speaker 1: a cheap process. You gotta have some money. And nineteen
Speaker 1: year olds want boot jobs. They don't want the free
Speaker 1: day eggs. They don't care about stuff like that. They're
Speaker 1: gonna spend their money on procedures. They're gonna spend it
Speaker 1: on some other bullshit that don't really matter, not freezing
Speaker 1: their eggs. They're not concerned with that. Maybe they should
Speaker 1: sell some of their eggs. That's what you needed to do.
Speaker 1: That's that's a comment. Should have been doing that now.
Speaker 1: Women sell their men sell the sperm. A lot of
Speaker 1: nineteen year olds assume I'm going to get married and
Speaker 1: have at least four or five. That's the way they think.
Speaker 1: He assumed, And then you hit and then thirty five,
Speaker 1: and you're like, goddamn it, I'm almost forty and I
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing, and now I've hat want one. I
Speaker 1: gotta buy them exactly at least by that time you
Speaker 1: might have the money on your own to do it, right.
Speaker 1: I always made jokes I'm gonna buy me a baby
Speaker 1: next year. Shit, I don't want to like next year.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to be pregnant. If I do
Speaker 1: have a kid, like, I would definitely have me a
Speaker 1: little microwave baby and love that little come in here
Speaker 1: a little yeah. Yeah, you know who had Adrian from
Speaker 1: from that's the talk. What's the other on the real
Speaker 1: she had a surrog baby baby boy recently. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all on. It's all online now said five years of
Speaker 1: IVF and struggles and stuff. And you know, I nineteen
Speaker 1: is too young. I would say by thirty if you
Speaker 1: have the financial means, I would say at thirty, at
Speaker 1: thirty nineteen, don't let go of hope so early, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely had me a little call that baby, whirlpool,
Speaker 1: come in a little whirlpool. It's stupid. This is what
Speaker 1: else happening, all right, listen. So Safari denies being responsible
Speaker 1: for leaking his sex saves that feature his room with
Speaker 1: girl Frank uh Cambella mitosmatoes. The person who did this
Speaker 1: thing is going to pay, is what he's saying. So
Speaker 1: the whole Twitter was going wild because they're trying to
Speaker 1: say his dick is not it after that video. But
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm me too, girl. He's always in
Speaker 1: the news for some both what does he do? Isn't
Speaker 1: he a singer? Like do you want to go make
Speaker 1: a song? What does he do? He's always online for
Speaker 1: some bullshit. Nikki's boyfriend, Oh yeah, I did see the
Speaker 1: video a few years ago of his saw his dick
Speaker 1: pick video or dick whatever, and I was like, congratulations.
Speaker 1: But after that, I don't care about him, right, I'm
Speaker 1: tired to see them all that. I care more about
Speaker 1: how his dick is doing and how he's doing and
Speaker 1: apparently ain't doing it as good as it was before
Speaker 1: because it don't even look like the same day. And
Speaker 1: don't like a difference. That beautiful video from before that
Speaker 1: that was him, I assumed Sam, and it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a dick gate scandal. Somebody got to
Speaker 1: a side by side comparison of that video from back
Speaker 1: in the day and what's going on now? Because that
Speaker 1: video back in the day was very impressive. I was
Speaker 1: proud of him. I might do a Twitter conspiracy video
Speaker 1: video for that. TikTok compared to Dicks. Yeah, you're like,
Speaker 1: so worry you did you have an accident? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't understand what's happening since then? I'm so tired and
Speaker 1: he's I saw another video he's either freestyling or rapping
Speaker 1: it on the um Charlot Mans the Breakfast Club. He's
Speaker 1: wrapping online currently right now, and the guy listening to
Speaker 1: him wrap they're not very happy about it. I didn't
Speaker 1: turn the volume on to hear it because those these
Speaker 1: freestyle in front of their faces were like because I
Speaker 1: don't know what he didn't have only fans something. Maybe
Speaker 1: that'll be his claim to fan again, what else happening to? Oh?
Speaker 1: Channing Crowder compliments, So what's the name of that show?
Speaker 1: The Pivot podcast? He said that another black man was beautiful?
Speaker 1: What's the Denzel Ward? Is that okay for another black
Speaker 1: man to call another beautiful? Like it's beautiful? I think
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. I liked it because you know, I want
Speaker 1: I want men to get rid of the they can't
Speaker 1: be vulnerable with women things when it's really your friends
Speaker 1: you can't be vulnerable with. At what point can't you
Speaker 1: not just tell your boy man you look good today?
Speaker 1: Like why no, homo? After that? Exactly? Yeah, they think that. No,
Speaker 1: I listen. I've heard guys compliment dudes before comedians and comedians.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. But when regular guys that they
Speaker 1: they're always worried about this game, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: is he's attractive? You see him? You see what I see? Right?
Speaker 1: Don't like that? Right? It doesn't mean you want to
Speaker 1: suck his dick? That you noticed that he's a looking man, right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean no. If that was the case, we'd
Speaker 1: be second day. I tell so many men all day
Speaker 1: every day how attractive they are. I don't want to
Speaker 1: touch him. I feel like I feel like older men
Speaker 1: are more capable of saying that another man is good looking.
Speaker 1: It's the younger ones that are like Paul's. Young guys
Speaker 1: are like I like that cut dog, I like that
Speaker 1: sharp that's they'll make it be about what they hair touched,
Speaker 1: like I like your shirt, I like I like your kicks.
Speaker 1: They won't say like, you're looking really good today. Dog
Speaker 1: brown eyes. He was like, man, you got brown eyes. Man,
Speaker 1: you're beautiful. Man, you're beautiful. You know what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a man probably acknowledging how much
Speaker 1: women probably like him. Yeah, these guys pay attention to that.
Speaker 1: They're like, you probably get mad bitches. They don't say that,
Speaker 1: but they're thinking that. That's the best they'll do is
Speaker 1: you probably get mad bitches. That's the way they say that.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's how they're saying, like, you're attractive, honey,
Speaker 1: you cut me bitches everywhere. That's how they do it. Um,
Speaker 1: what's next? Ajor? I wanted to say, R I p
Speaker 1: to and hat that was a tragedy. Last week she
Speaker 1: passed away and it's really weird. Have y'all seen that
Speaker 1: video online with her popping up out of the body
Speaker 1: bag on a stretcher. Was real footage. That was real.
Speaker 1: That was her And I need a fucking ex planation
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Like, are we're just supposed to pretend?
Speaker 1: Like when you see that? You know? He So this
Speaker 1: video was released it it was released by a credible source,
Speaker 1: um verified account on Twitter news reporter. So they had
Speaker 1: like the you know, the planes flying over to the
Speaker 1: scene of the incident where she crashed into someone's garage,
Speaker 1: big fire. They were saying she was basically dead on
Speaker 1: the scene initially, and then they said she was in
Speaker 1: um stable condition at the hospital. But this video I
Speaker 1: didn't see it until over the weekend, so apparently it
Speaker 1: was posted on Twitter on the fifth. But it's a
Speaker 1: video of her zipped up inside of a body bag
Speaker 1: and a white body bag, and she pops up. She
Speaker 1: pops up, and the firefighter pushes her back down and
Speaker 1: they put her inside of the um ambulance. It really happen,
Speaker 1: that might happen. Well, first of all, why opened the
Speaker 1: bag to be like, hey man, you're good? Like to
Speaker 1: ask her? She cool, like why you just but why
Speaker 1: did you dip it up in the first place? They
Speaker 1: assumed she was already dead perhaps, And then she was
Speaker 1: naked also, so you didn't have any clothes on. You
Speaker 1: could just see her back was beer. And then they
Speaker 1: reported her you know, legally dad on the twelfth of August. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the whole like, uh, disconnected life support, that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. I've heard of bad bodies moving and passing
Speaker 1: their bowels and all kind of stuff, and maybe the
Speaker 1: firefights like look, look they lay down. We already pronounced
Speaker 1: you dead. While yo, maybe we're done, already to be
Speaker 1: ready to go to lunch. You sold your little bit.
Speaker 1: Get out of here. Our shift is over soon. May
Speaker 1: Now that was not funny. Yeah, her dad, her dad
Speaker 1: was magic and sad and your family, but the firefighters reaction.
Speaker 1: Where the joke come from? Not am I'm sorry it
Speaker 1: passed away. Yeah, I've always kind of liked her. She's
Speaker 1: a really good actor. She used to date Ellen. I'm
Speaker 1: very I'm sorry if she's gone. And I heard what
Speaker 1: she passed away. She had, he had the Sentinel and
Speaker 1: some of the drugs. I heard she was drugged up
Speaker 1: when she life is like did you see it? Did
Speaker 1: you see the video of her driving down the block?
Speaker 1: It was invidence she was. He was doing anabe. You
Speaker 1: look at your outside your window when your kids playing,
Speaker 1: and imagine the car doing I hearted past the mailbox
Speaker 1: on your block. It was like that. But just like that,
Speaker 1: the black girl who right now is in trouble, the
Speaker 1: nurse who killed for a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: she zoomed at a hundred miles our way, through traffic,
Speaker 1: and the video looked like that. You just see the
Speaker 1: car zooming zooming down like a little alleyway kinda. But
Speaker 1: act accidents prior though the one who Yeah, that one
Speaker 1: with mental health issues too as well. Yeah, but thirteen
Speaker 1: accidents got who How you still got a license? How
Speaker 1: do you still go home and tell your friends? Hey,
Speaker 1: another one, They're like, give me the car keys. I
Speaker 1: literally have a friend like that. I literally have a Yes,
Speaker 1: she has had so many car accidents. I'm like, now
Speaker 1: she doesn't drive. Her mom helped her, helped her, her
Speaker 1: son get a car, but she can't. She can't drive
Speaker 1: the car either. Yeah, they had all these accidents. Some
Speaker 1: people really are They drive and they live their life
Speaker 1: really like a scared driver. Like some people their license.
Speaker 1: They drive, but they're like they're scared of the freeway.
Speaker 1: They're scared of, you know, backing up parking. A lot
Speaker 1: of people if they drive, but they're not confident drivers.
Speaker 1: I didn't. You can tell a lot about a person.
Speaker 1: I think you can tell a lot about a person
Speaker 1: about how they drive. One of my ex is used
Speaker 1: to drive so fucking crazy and that's how he was
Speaker 1: in real life. And I would be clutching the damn
Speaker 1: door and pressing the fake breaks the whole time. Why
Speaker 1: he was driving. Yeah, my my last boyfriend didn't wear
Speaker 1: a seat belt and he didn't signal when he changed lanes,
Speaker 1: and he was just a very free for all just
Speaker 1: getting the car, let's go, and he was working man.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I was always sitting next to him,
Speaker 1: like how you don't care about none of this and
Speaker 1: I ain't ready, I'm not I'm not dying. I don't
Speaker 1: give a you're kicking it. And you know how some
Speaker 1: guys who drive, they put their arm rest trying, you know,
Speaker 1: like that's gonna that's not gonna help. Put your hand,
Speaker 1: put your hand back, and that's not gonna do. You're
Speaker 1: only gonna get to where you're going on one minute
Speaker 1: quicker and if that second nothing, Like why are people
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, that's someone who probably take short cuts
Speaker 1: in life overall, to someone who's like, I don't got
Speaker 1: time to do it the way you're supposed to, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna skip around it. And the absolutely right, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have a fear of driving just in the
Speaker 1: rain and in the dark. That's only like any other time.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm driving pretty fast, but when it's raining,
Speaker 1: when it's dark, it's granny for me. Uh, let's go
Speaker 1: to ammercial, y'all. When we get back, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into Miss Jackie Sauda. All right, all right, y'all. So
Speaker 1: Miss Jackie Fabulous has just done a one hour special
Speaker 1: called Menoplause, and uh, it's so funny, y'all. I was
Speaker 1: high as hell watching it, and I really enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: and I had a couple of questions about some of
Speaker 1: the content from this. So I wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: you about first dating outside of your race. You said, Uh,
Speaker 1: you wanted to date a white guy. I never have, no, no,
Speaker 1: my I'm I'm engaged, and he's a very very thorough
Speaker 1: black guy. I just I was just I never tried like.
Speaker 1: I feel bad that when I was out there dating
Speaker 1: and trying to find whatever it was meant for me,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I had a very tunnel vision. You gotta be.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm obsester black dude, But I and the
Speaker 1: white guy's never hit on me, and I've never had
Speaker 1: one flirt seriously or really try and make I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. I think I'm cute enough I'm
Speaker 1: fantastic enough, alright, said okay, but they just don't holllight
Speaker 1: me the way you know black guys. Black guy let
Speaker 1: you know, like ay blah blah blah blah. White guys
Speaker 1: are like conversation forever. But no, they don't actually go
Speaker 1: to the next level of do you want to go
Speaker 1: get something to eat? Nothing? Get what was that too?
Speaker 1: I never have I just that those jokes. It's just
Speaker 1: about me. I never tried, and I know what to
Speaker 1: do because I have so many white friends. I know
Speaker 1: how to connect with them, but I don't really want them.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you know, I'll never have to try. But they
Speaker 1: probably never hallowed because you know, the confidence. I think
Speaker 1: black men just have a little bit more confidence the usual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I always hear that. But but I'll
Speaker 1: hang out with a white guy used years ago. We'll
Speaker 1: hang out tough for for hours, and they will never
Speaker 1: like cross the line where a black guy will give
Speaker 1: you about an hour and after that whatever. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: white guys will go to every movie, a dinner, They'll
Speaker 1: they'll hang out with you for hours and you're like,
Speaker 1: I have a girl, what's going on? You want to do?
Speaker 1: But they they'll be shy or not. I'm not that type.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I wish I
Speaker 1: had tried more of the world of men before I
Speaker 1: settled down. Do you think that maybe it's you? Do
Speaker 1: you think that maybe it's the black men that intimidate
Speaker 1: them from actually approaching black women, because I remember going
Speaker 1: to this this bar used to frequent a lot. It
Speaker 1: was like um, like a top of his little wine bar,
Speaker 1: and it was owned by an Egyptian guy. And he
Speaker 1: told me the reason why he never approached black women
Speaker 1: is because you know that thing about black men having
Speaker 1: all this dick That's what and that's what like intimidated him,
Speaker 1: like he wouldn't be able to please a black woman.
Speaker 1: First of all, that every black guy gotta is packing
Speaker 1: as exactly I don't know. I wish. I wish it
Speaker 1: might be on average, they might have the biggest peace.
Speaker 1: On average, most of them more than often, more often
Speaker 1: than not, they're packing, and by packing I mean above average.
Speaker 1: But are all of them gonna whip out a big
Speaker 1: night surprise cable for you? I wish. I've had so
Speaker 1: many disappointments and I used to be my guy now
Speaker 1: is is he's six four, so he fulfills the stereotype.
Speaker 1: When I had tall guys prior to him, where I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're a big one. It's gonna you know how many
Speaker 1: tall ones I've been like, what is this? You so tall?
Speaker 1: It's a waste of space and air and oxygen, you know,
Speaker 1: big feet, big My and guy arrested my ex husband.
Speaker 1: He was six flour Everything about him with gigantic except
Speaker 1: except what I needed. I cried, but we were together
Speaker 1: for a long time, boyfriend and girlfriend. He overcompensated the
Speaker 1: way you have to. But I but I realized when
Speaker 1: I was with him, I'm like, I probably can't be
Speaker 1: with this guy forever. At some point I'm either gonna
Speaker 1: cheat and that's not me, or I'm gonna be really
Speaker 1: unhappy and you know, leave him. So you married him
Speaker 1: knowing that you would no no, no, no x X
Speaker 1: ex husband he's dead. He passed away and I did.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We were a boyfriend a girlfriend for nine years.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tearing a good man away. If the
Speaker 1: six the actually good, I'm not gonna turn you away.
Speaker 1: I've had great sex with guys. It's very mediocre dicks
Speaker 1: because I think a big day does not necessarily mean
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like this is amazing. You don't correlate
Speaker 1: where big don't mean great checks. There's such thing as
Speaker 1: like boyfriend dick. Boyfriend Dick is like that nice, good,
Speaker 1: good size. I can live with this dick forever. You
Speaker 1: gotta at least to have some boyfriend dick. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I or I had plenty of orgasms, so knew
Speaker 1: what he was doing. He's a very confident man. And
Speaker 1: you know, if you get a guy with a small one,
Speaker 1: but he knows what to do to make you happy
Speaker 1: in every other way, you'll be here. You'll be with
Speaker 1: them for as long as you can. So you realize
Speaker 1: I needed Dick now right, he's gonna cheat. I'm gonna cheat.
Speaker 1: I left before I cheated. I'm just trying a girl
Speaker 1: where I'm like, when I start feeling like I want
Speaker 1: to wander, I'm like, I'll to the karma is too much,
Speaker 1: I'll leave. I'm like, I gotta break up. I can't
Speaker 1: be lusting for every guy and meet because you don't
Speaker 1: get me happy. I'd rather leave you and be alone
Speaker 1: and try over again. Yeah, me too. I would pay
Speaker 1: you and jas I've never had no like uh Dick,
Speaker 1: where I was just like, oh this is small, but
Speaker 1: he's so nice. Never know, my husband was a very caretaking,
Speaker 1: big guy, smart, intelligent, funny, y had He had everything,
Speaker 1: of course, but what I needed to stay hang in there.
Speaker 1: We hang in there for ten years. You were both
Speaker 1: for a dolfriend for a decade, and then we got married.
Speaker 1: And then I realized I've made a mistake. Shames. I
Speaker 1: saw you on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Are
Speaker 1: you getting married in September? Was that a part of
Speaker 1: a joke? No, that's real, But September was not a
Speaker 1: realistic It was too close to when I right announced it.
Speaker 1: So November ten there is the date. Hey, what about you? Two?
Speaker 1: Are in love with anyone? Not you? Interview and the interviewers,
Speaker 1: what the hell I love? I want to know if
Speaker 1: y'all in love? To girl? Know, when you're in love,
Speaker 1: you want everybody to be in love. It's very corny.
Speaker 1: When you're in you're in love, like everybody being loved,
Speaker 1: Like me, right, I always want people to be in love.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not. I was engaged over a year
Speaker 1: ago and I'm no long I'm single now, So I'm
Speaker 1: not outside for real, but I'm like a little bit
Speaker 1: outside the door cracked, the door cracked open. I'm on
Speaker 1: the porch a little bit, sitting on the student who're
Speaker 1: coming through that type of ship. What she don't but
Speaker 1: she don't trust you at all, and she's like everything.
Speaker 1: This girl has a lot everything. I've been single since
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. Okay, I've been single a minute now.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for something real. But it just don't seem
Speaker 1: like realists being available to me. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just keep me. I keep liking the wrong type
Speaker 1: of the guy. Say what are you attracting? Like? What
Speaker 1: do you want of the choice as you're making? And
Speaker 1: I'm just lacking the wrong ones. Girl broke, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the wrong ones are always so much fun. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. I'd be having phone phone with these wrong
Speaker 1: guys names wronger. That's why you're in there. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to be right though. I'm ready to when when you
Speaker 1: are ready and you tell the world the universe you're ready,
Speaker 1: then you see a difference, right, hopefully. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: open yourself up for that stuff. Man, I'm always open listen.
Speaker 1: I like being in love. I like it I like,
Speaker 1: I like, I like new dates, I like first dates.
Speaker 1: I like all that ship. I never I look at
Speaker 1: it a fun girls who freak out guys and girls
Speaker 1: too about going I'm like going on days with somebody new,
Speaker 1: even if you have no plans. But it's fun. You
Speaker 1: get a meal, you get to drink, you have I
Speaker 1: think dates are fun, you get to hang out. Because
Speaker 1: I'm so shure, so I know how to make I
Speaker 1: know how to make a guy on any day, first
Speaker 1: day blind, they'd fall in love because I know how
Speaker 1: to person, because I know how to focused on you
Speaker 1: know women, what a week, But I know how to
Speaker 1: flatter the hell out of a guy and get a
Speaker 1: dick marble conversation game. I took a nick on the
Speaker 1: on a damn bike ride. Is ass acting like he
Speaker 1: love now? R If you give them what they want
Speaker 1: and be, you know, fun and frolic with them, that'd
Speaker 1: be like, I want to know you be funny too, Funny.
Speaker 1: They love funny funny. Get that dick out. That's that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't be wanting the dick out all
Speaker 1: the time. Just laugh with me. Put your dick away, sir. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem. When you're beautiful and personality and funny,
Speaker 1: they get they get confused. They're like, this is we're
Speaker 1: having a great time. We should be a tumple and
Speaker 1: you're like, that is not why I'm here, right, go away.
Speaker 1: So I saw that in your especial you said that
Speaker 1: you had almost had to go back to work, and
Speaker 1: he was like, Ship, Oh yeah, yeah, you had left
Speaker 1: corporate corporate environment ten years, like two thousand, tens, twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I worked at cal Tech in Pasadena and I left
Speaker 1: the job because they told me too, and they fired
Speaker 1: the crap out of it. And during the during the quarantine,
Speaker 1: you know, money got tight, and I had all this.
Speaker 1: I was on tour heavy before they told us we
Speaker 1: can't go outside. I did a lot of zoom shows
Speaker 1: and after while, I'm like, I wonder none of us knew.
Speaker 1: We were all kind of at home, like I don't
Speaker 1: know what how is my life going to be when
Speaker 1: it's so in case I can't go back the full
Speaker 1: time entertainer, let me find I have many skills and
Speaker 1: all that. Ship and I had an interview and the
Speaker 1: lady was like, so you know, what have you been
Speaker 1: doing to that big gas gap? My resume, and I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: the best I can. What I gotta do, what I
Speaker 1: gotta do, kind of trying to be in the in denial,
Speaker 1: you know, having a good time, having way too much sex,
Speaker 1: not focused on work, ma'am. That so you didn't get
Speaker 1: the job? Assuming No, she was a black lady too,
Speaker 1: and you. I was making her laugh at the interview,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, in my head, I was like, she's
Speaker 1: having a great time. I ain't gonna get this job.
Speaker 1: She was kind of like, it's so funny. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh damn it. Skill out now. She's like, you can't
Speaker 1: work yet, but you know, do nothing right. He was right,
Speaker 1: I'm alright, go the job to have fun, not to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. That's why I don't need to work in
Speaker 1: Nobody corporate off me. The last time I had a job.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sitting like, why the funk am
Speaker 1: I hair? Why the funk am I hair? Like I
Speaker 1: knew deep down in my soul this ship is not
Speaker 1: for me. Like I know this is not for me.
Speaker 1: A life of working and ship that is, ship is
Speaker 1: not for me. You know What's funny to the reason
Speaker 1: why I really didn't want the job is because it
Speaker 1: was at the Getty Is it the Getty Museum in
Speaker 1: l A. And you have you got to park your
Speaker 1: car in one place and take a train tram to
Speaker 1: the actual office. Oh and I'm like at the interview,
Speaker 1: I said to her, so it's my car. Does my
Speaker 1: car have to stay in the parking complex because I
Speaker 1: I got to take a train from there to the desk? Scared?
Speaker 1: She's like yeah. And my thought was if I can't
Speaker 1: get to my car for either taking naps, orditions, escaping whatever,
Speaker 1: we didn't work here, okay, zac, wait, you don't know
Speaker 1: what I want to do. And she's like, no, the
Speaker 1: car is kept over there. I'm like in my head, like,
Speaker 1: bab I can't work here, about to be trapping. I
Speaker 1: wonder I would have been in my vehicle? Are you
Speaker 1: ruding by? So that was my saying. I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: no cars where nom That means I gotta bear my
Speaker 1: desk all time. I don't know. I ain't done that
Speaker 1: since the nineties. What who did you get into comedy? Oh?
Speaker 1: That's sound was about to ask her, go ahead, boredom,
Speaker 1: just for fun, just I worked in some places on
Speaker 1: in l A. And my girlfriends worked at the job
Speaker 1: and everyone there was an actor, so I was the
Speaker 1: only one who was like, what's that? That was the
Speaker 1: funny ear and they told me try this class. I
Speaker 1: took a writing class and performed the improv and my friends.
Speaker 1: My friends told me to stick with it. To be honest,
Speaker 1: they were like, you're funny, you just figure this out.
Speaker 1: So it was that why I did it after work
Speaker 1: for years until two thousand in town when I got fired,
Speaker 1: but for fun, no career aspirations. Didn't know you could
Speaker 1: be doing this. I lives in the Bronx, and you know,
Speaker 1: when you're from a small town in any state, it's
Speaker 1: always feels like a small town mentality, like how do
Speaker 1: you get out of here to do this? You didn't
Speaker 1: know you could right for work with no goals, And
Speaker 1: that's how it turned out to be, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: could probably make a living in my house with this.
Speaker 1: Who knew exactly? Yeah, I saw I saw some of
Speaker 1: your clips from America's Got Talent? How the hell you
Speaker 1: end up on there? I didn't even know they had
Speaker 1: comedians on shows like that. Oh yes, how well, living
Speaker 1: in l A. Everybody everyone in l A entertainment wise,
Speaker 1: that had taken the decisions. They know who all the
Speaker 1: comics are, so when the show came on every year
Speaker 1: they were like, you want to try now, And for
Speaker 1: years that was like not my thing out the reality dude.
Speaker 1: And then finally I was like, I need exposure and
Speaker 1: I need to work, so let me try. And I
Speaker 1: did it. I did it with a whole like that,
Speaker 1: this just have fun and yeah, because I didn't do
Speaker 1: it with a whole like I gotta win, because anybody's
Speaker 1: gonna win against sucking poodles and camels and opera singers
Speaker 1: and little kids and ship all kind of ship going on.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who, how would Comedian went over this? That's
Speaker 1: why I did it to help me get work. That's
Speaker 1: that's why. That's why I get it. And here we
Speaker 1: are and here we is. So no, I saw that
Speaker 1: you said that you moved back to the Bronx back
Speaker 1: home and you were living with your mother. That I
Speaker 1: never intended. I lived in l A with twenty years
Speaker 1: and when I decided to move back, nothing bad happened.
Speaker 1: Nobody died, Thank you God. I was just bored. I
Speaker 1: wasn't booking. I was auditioning like crazy, not getting shipped
Speaker 1: so I'm like, let me try. It is a change.
Speaker 1: I moved back to New York October, fully intending to
Speaker 1: live in l A and New York have that life style,
Speaker 1: but COVID was like, what are you doing? So I
Speaker 1: had to move back into the home that I own
Speaker 1: in New York with my mom, my mother, and father,
Speaker 1: the child house I grew up in. And I haven't
Speaker 1: tried to sign a place until like now, I'm really trying.
Speaker 1: During I should have moved like when everybody was dying,
Speaker 1: because the rent was like three bedroom and now they're
Speaker 1: like three bedroom, five grand. What I will bury my mom,
Speaker 1: we'll live together, matching plots. I will never move. I'm
Speaker 1: not paying my grand rent. So I don't understand what
Speaker 1: iving to live in New York? What the hell? I know?
Speaker 1: I know, and I the York right now. People left
Speaker 1: New York and I left Cali for everywhere else because
Speaker 1: now you with this, you don't have to live anywhere.
Speaker 1: You can live wherever you can, where you where you're comfortable,
Speaker 1: where you're comfortable. So I live in the Bronx because
Speaker 1: I just, you know, had to. And now that we're
Speaker 1: allowed to live our lives again, I'm looking for a
Speaker 1: place with you know, and I don't know whether I
Speaker 1: want to buy. There's nothing to buy. If I wanted
Speaker 1: to buy, ain't nothing, ain't nothing exists. New York State
Speaker 1: lations got sold up. I know they are. They're investing
Speaker 1: all and now we can regular folks can't buy, so
Speaker 1: they want to hold up all these investing properties. It's
Speaker 1: stuck right now. So my next step in like every
Speaker 1: day for me, is a mystery. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen day to day. You better move to
Speaker 1: the mecca. You better move to the mecca of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: There's no room for me. If one's fall apart, it's
Speaker 1: gonna fall apart. There's no there's nowhere to go there.
Speaker 1: And I thought about it because I want to be
Speaker 1: around my people, But I'm like where And the crime
Speaker 1: on guys, y'all crime stories are making me cry daily.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. Now, you said, you said you wanted to
Speaker 1: do Heroin like living with your mama? Is that like
Speaker 1: the two grown women in the same house. You know what,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. I haven't lived at home
Speaker 1: for twenty years, so my mom don't know. Yes, you
Speaker 1: don't know me. You don't know that I like Scotch
Speaker 1: at night and I smoke weed sociality. You don't know
Speaker 1: any of this. So when I moved back home and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm going through the kitchen, She's on the
Speaker 1: cork and she hears me in the kitchen, and she
Speaker 1: can tell when I'm pouring kool aid or pouring pepsi
Speaker 1: or pouring real ship. She can tell by the sound
Speaker 1: of the liquid hit the glast that I'm drinking again.
Speaker 1: And I was like, she finally trying to ask me, like, Jackie,
Speaker 1: is not even noon. And I'm like, Mommy, I am
Speaker 1: what I'm a forty eight nine fifty. You're lucky I'm
Speaker 1: not doing coke in front of you. So you have
Speaker 1: to realize when you move back home, your family don't
Speaker 1: know you at all, joint secretly. And my mom's in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. What's that smell? What's what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You smell? You smell smoke. And I'm like, now, your
Speaker 1: mom is Jamaican, she know what you smell it. And
Speaker 1: I didn't denying you know what it is. I'm in
Speaker 1: here watching a TV in my any bitty bedroom. Of
Speaker 1: course I'm hot, all right. They just gotta escape Okay,
Speaker 1: so technically how long if you've been doing comedy, then
Speaker 1: it'll be seventeen years and yeah you've been at this, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean at this uh grinding. But in the last
Speaker 1: since I moved left l A to come to New York,
Speaker 1: a lot of things I've had on my vision board,
Speaker 1: let's have happened. All I did was make a change.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people gotta package it and try something different. And
Speaker 1: as I have moved back to New York, the bookings
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting are happening, the special, the tour and
Speaker 1: talent one after the other. Because I was in l
Speaker 1: A and board and like, how can I get my
Speaker 1: career moved? And then I moved And that's how things
Speaker 1: are way better now than it used to be. Thank God.
Speaker 1: What advice would you have for like some young people,
Speaker 1: young women, especially because comedy is a male dominated industry,
Speaker 1: So what advice would you have for young women trying
Speaker 1: to be out there in the world. You gotta have
Speaker 1: fixed skin because these comics, whatever race they are, it
Speaker 1: will say things around you, in front of you and
Speaker 1: to you. They'll make you be like where is HR?
Speaker 1: And they're like this your eight? No HR? So you
Speaker 1: gotta get some six skin, because they're gonna try you,
Speaker 1: they're gonna challenge you, they're gonna hit on you. It's all.
Speaker 1: You're got to be comfortable being a woman who knows
Speaker 1: who she is and what she wants and and treatment
Speaker 1: like your colleagues, not like you know, I'm a girl
Speaker 1: and all these boys be like, hey, we're doing and
Speaker 1: we're all doing this together. We found and that makes
Speaker 1: men respect you when you're like, hey, I'm one of y'all,
Speaker 1: and nobody fucking and nobody who's stealing, and nobody whatever.
Speaker 1: We in this together. And when they get an idea,
Speaker 1: you know. And and I'm one of those where I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get this to share a lot. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: and if you are a woman in comedy and you
Speaker 1: want to start the business, this whole thing is, you know,
Speaker 1: don't date comics, don't whatever. I'm like, I'm a woman.
Speaker 1: I look at these male comics as men first, and
Speaker 1: then you know, and if you're a ground up you
Speaker 1: should be able to do date and whatever whoever you
Speaker 1: want and not have druma. So if you're a female
Speaker 1: wants to be in the world of comedy, have thick skins.
Speaker 1: Know how to make your own decisions. Ignore the opinions
Speaker 1: and the veterans opinions. It doesn't apply to your life.
Speaker 1: You know what to take and to apply to you
Speaker 1: and what to be like as you dog. But this
Speaker 1: is this is my world, and focus on the funny
Speaker 1: because you are going to be objectified, discriminated against. All
Speaker 1: things are gonna happen to you. And if you are
Speaker 1: want to break down with the first or second or eleventh,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, You're not gonna make it. You gotta
Speaker 1: have thick skin. You gotta be a bad bitch to
Speaker 1: do this. What about when you happen to have to
Speaker 1: smack somebody right quick? What do you mean, like literally
Speaker 1: to smack another comedian? And you know what, for some reason,
Speaker 1: or maybe I know the reason, I don't attract that
Speaker 1: kind of attention. I do attract people who are supportive
Speaker 1: and respectful because I am that way, and people know that.
Speaker 1: I think they know low key like I'm from the Bronx.
Speaker 1: I'm not really, I'm not a pussy, but I'm also
Speaker 1: I don't but I don't. I don't get challenge. I
Speaker 1: don't do the challenge, and I'm in this for fun.
Speaker 1: I want to make money, make you make lay these laughs,
Speaker 1: by myself, a house, marrying my fiance. I just wanted
Speaker 1: the simple, you know, luxuries. So nobody's test me because
Speaker 1: you know, they don't feel like they need to. And
Speaker 1: if they did, I'm prepared. Now. You told one joke,
Speaker 1: and you was like in my twenties and thirties, if
Speaker 1: someone said, hey, you gotta suck a dick to get ahead,
Speaker 1: you would have been like, no, I'm a woman of integrity.
Speaker 1: And then you said, now, well whose though, So my
Speaker 1: question is have you sucked any dick to get ahead?
Speaker 1: No one I did. I did fool around with one
Speaker 1: thinking that it would help, and when it was done,
Speaker 1: he said, girl, you bet on the wrong horse. I
Speaker 1: have no power. Damn. He was a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: He is a friend. So it wasn't like suck this
Speaker 1: get a movie. It was somebody who was more advanced
Speaker 1: than me in this world. And we were friends and
Speaker 1: hanging down one thing left to another, and after we over,
Speaker 1: I'm like, So he was like, I ain't get no help.
Speaker 1: I can't help any any help with guta himself. This
Speaker 1: is like a decade ago. But I have never I've
Speaker 1: never even and I'm not gonna lie. Part of me
Speaker 1: is like I wish I had been offered. No, won't
Speaker 1: even offer me. Now I'm like maybe, I'm like I
Speaker 1: am wron don't assume that I'm gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so offended. I'm going to sue you. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: what movie is it? That's what's up. That's why I like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to correlate the two. But I've met
Speaker 1: people with power and I've been you know. Part of
Speaker 1: me is like, I mean, if we're both single, or
Speaker 1: we can keep this quiet, you never know. I never
Speaker 1: have and was like I was open maybe if it
Speaker 1: was a really good opportunity. But now no one ever,
Speaker 1: no one ever hung was at me that way. They
Speaker 1: know they're gonna get a No, I didn't have one.
Speaker 1: I had one. I remember he was playing around. He
Speaker 1: was a producer on some TV show, a popular one,
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, watch I had and he
Speaker 1: gave me your role on it. I'm real quick speaking
Speaker 1: you row and then he was like I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: how about a regular I want to be on it
Speaker 1: all the time. He's like, well, how about a hand job?
Speaker 1: And I'm like he was yeah, I was like, and
Speaker 1: I said to him, I was like, first of all,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying no, but I need to sign the contract,
Speaker 1: get a call time, and actually get the deal done.
Speaker 1: And then I'll do I'm to give your hands out
Speaker 1: in the back of this sing car and I leave
Speaker 1: here and nothing happens. Yeah, I need a contract sign
Speaker 1: and the agent was involved and closed the deal, and
Speaker 1: now I'll be like he was a nice creep. He
Speaker 1: just asked for a hand job. Hand job, and I
Speaker 1: was like, the way he asked for all was so
Speaker 1: like whack. I was like, I could you have some
Speaker 1: more swaggle with that? I'd have done it. But did
Speaker 1: he get to a roll? Did he get no? No? No? Nothing?
Speaker 1: I wrapped. I said no. He was like all right, No,
Speaker 1: I was We weren't really serious because we're friends. But
Speaker 1: even though part of him like five percent like would
Speaker 1: you no, you know, they definitely with everything going off,
Speaker 1: and then like I was kidding, that's why, that's why
Speaker 1: your man don't never want you to have guys guys
Speaker 1: as friends. Girl. He's so jealous. But I've learned how
Speaker 1: to maneuver. I know how to get around that. I
Speaker 1: just lie to him. Now it's easy. I used to
Speaker 1: be I used to be an honesty girl. My ex husband,
Speaker 1: I told him everything in the courtship part in the beginning,
Speaker 1: when I tell you that all that ship came back
Speaker 1: and made me in the ass, I adn't tell him nothing.
Speaker 1: Ever again, I'm like, how was inviting it? Because the
Speaker 1: first one, when I told him everything, he used it
Speaker 1: against me in arguments, and that was part of why
Speaker 1: we got divorced. That that was the part of our demands.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, if you not love that, I used
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't do that anymore, but you so,
Speaker 1: But don't assign that to yourself. You probably did it before,
Speaker 1: but that's like that that was a characteristic of yours.
Speaker 1: Don't say that. Okay, no I did that, but I've
Speaker 1: done that. You've done it. Yes, I believe everyone's done it.
Speaker 1: But in the way they try to make it like
Speaker 1: women just always throwing up men's vulnerabilities in their faces.
Speaker 1: It's not true. I've never been a man. I've never
Speaker 1: been up with a man who didn't you tell them
Speaker 1: some ship. In the midst of an argument, they're saying,
Speaker 1: that's craziest ship back to you, Like, yeah, clay to
Speaker 1: win the argument, like what I'm living, Like, what about
Speaker 1: that time where on Friday you came home from work
Speaker 1: and didn't wash the pussy again to a Monday morning
Speaker 1: shut up like like my shrong. Yeah, because they love
Speaker 1: nasty ass like that, like they'd be liking you sweat
Speaker 1: they wanted from the gym, just nasty exactly down all day. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like got watching me. I feel clammy. They wanted girl.
Speaker 1: I just I just figure and then I'm not trying
Speaker 1: whether this is a healthy answer to it. But I
Speaker 1: just don't tell him my current anymore. It's just I
Speaker 1: rather not deal with it because I think that most
Speaker 1: men when they really when the men fall in love,
Speaker 1: and my opinion, they fall in love really hard. So
Speaker 1: the idea of you in the past, even even if
Speaker 1: he's a healthy guy mentally, he's still like so I
Speaker 1: told this guy when we started getting serious, I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: whatever I did before you, it's none of your business.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna discuss it. You go hold it against me.
Speaker 1: If we come across the dude that I whatever in
Speaker 1: the past, I'm gonna let you know maybe or may not,
Speaker 1: but it's nothing to do with you and now I
Speaker 1: got a gang because my last selectionship, he fucking he
Speaker 1: hated the fact that I had a life before him
Speaker 1: and during him, and yeah we we didn't. Oh aries
Speaker 1: both of them aries the arias and the new husband's areas.
Speaker 1: So they're both a little bit psychoed to me. I
Speaker 1: I gotta figure that out. I ain't gotta figure it
Speaker 1: out yet. Is it okay for him to have female friends?
Speaker 1: Oh before, I'm not gonna lie my current fiance. He's
Speaker 1: so fine that I'm a little I probably would be
Speaker 1: jealous about it. I'm not. I'm I'm not a jealous
Speaker 1: person where you can't live your life. But he likes
Speaker 1: to walk around with a tank top. But he's real tall,
Speaker 1: he's a good looking. But it's a little bit more
Speaker 1: understanding when they find right. It's when you like, lower
Speaker 1: your standards for a nigger, and he's still do a
Speaker 1: little shit like if you find right. But if you're
Speaker 1: ugli have friends that are women, I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that you can have. I gotta
Speaker 1: know her and be around them. You can't like. And
Speaker 1: that's another thing I had to change. I had to
Speaker 1: change how I handle my friendship with men because I
Speaker 1: prior to him, I was kind of like, I'll do
Speaker 1: what I want to do, hang out who I want
Speaker 1: to hang out. But now I really care about this
Speaker 1: guy's feelings. So my text messages have just gotten appropriate.
Speaker 1: Like in the last week, you would go through my phone.
Speaker 1: You'll be proud of me. You're like, you are really
Speaker 1: growing up. Now there's no there's no you up. There's
Speaker 1: no happy birthday, and there's no you had congrass all
Speaker 1: that with guy that talked before. All good or at
Speaker 1: least the two. They're too far down to scroll. You
Speaker 1: can't get him anymore. You'll be like my ex and
Speaker 1: this nigger was all the way back and my goddamn
Speaker 1: Facebook two two thousand nine, I don't even know he
Speaker 1: existed at the time. Every now then they no snoop
Speaker 1: and they will ask you questions and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: the hell where do you get that question from? How
Speaker 1: do you hope by that? Because they're snooping, but they're
Speaker 1: two jobs to hide it. Well, they don't hide this
Speaker 1: and they don't want they don't want you to know
Speaker 1: that they actually snoop and men snoop them. Look, they
Speaker 1: looked through all your ship, I said, I see him
Speaker 1: over my shoulder. You six floor, I'm five for I'll
Speaker 1: be on my phone and I can feel your fucking
Speaker 1: breath right here. And just like trying to look and
Speaker 1: not look. There's the nosiest. And I'm very good at
Speaker 1: not being nosy anymore because I feel like when you
Speaker 1: search a snoop, you find every every time you find
Speaker 1: a family in Virginia, I don't look until I'm ready
Speaker 1: to leave. When I when I when I ready to
Speaker 1: leave you, I'm going through all your ship looking for
Speaker 1: a reason, and I'm I don't want to read and
Speaker 1: find out or look about looking exactly what I'm ready like.
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I'm like, I'm getting bored with this guy.
Speaker 1: Let's see what you're doing. I win. I'm the same
Speaker 1: way I look. I'm a incriminating evidence. How did you
Speaker 1: come up with the name? Men? Applause? I was doing
Speaker 1: a show on Rhode Island and I was having a
Speaker 1: hot flash on stage sweating and told the audience, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's how you guys know I may get undressed. Congratulations
Speaker 1: and you're welcome because I have sweats and this guy
Speaker 1: in the backside of clapping and I said, why am
Speaker 1: the hell are you clapping? And he said, I'm giving
Speaker 1: you men applause. So I said, I am taking that
Speaker 1: name and not giving you a goddamn doctor man name.
Speaker 1: That was nice. So okay. Speaking to women who are like,
Speaker 1: we're a little bit younger, but we ain't that far
Speaker 1: from menopause, what is that like? I don't, well, this
Speaker 1: is my first time probably admitting it, but I haven't
Speaker 1: had my period now and about well over a year.
Speaker 1: I think my body is probably in the next phase
Speaker 1: of life. It's if there's no way to compare it,
Speaker 1: because there's no comparison. Everybody's body is different. You might
Speaker 1: have hot flashes, you might have nothing, you might have
Speaker 1: vaginal dryness, you might be normal. Thank god, all I
Speaker 1: have or hot flashes and sweat a little bit. Vagina
Speaker 1: is still very much And so it's really there's no
Speaker 1: way to predict what will happen to you? Is it
Speaker 1: depends on your diet, Like if you're somebody who drinks
Speaker 1: a lot, you make up when you drink alcohol, it
Speaker 1: makes it worse. And I keep forgetting, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: have a glass of wine and then have my name
Speaker 1: announced and then get on stage and be like, why
Speaker 1: but I feel faint? How are you forgetting change? Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's it's your Your diet helps. They're ways to
Speaker 1: come to fix it or to manage it. But everyally
Speaker 1: I'm still learning. I'm new to it, and I know
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking. I'm not on any kind of drug prescriptions.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be, so I got to look
Speaker 1: for the natural remedies. So far, all I'm doing and
Speaker 1: suffering but playing a natural ways to fix this. You
Speaker 1: don't do any sufflashes saying I just vitamins and hair pills.
Speaker 1: That's it. I need to I need to try hard.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying because it doesn't happen. You're okay, okay
Speaker 1: more more more. Honestly, I have lost weight with the
Speaker 1: sweating all the time, and maybe I'm low key happy
Speaker 1: with it because I sweat a lot and not in
Speaker 1: a way where it's gross. But you know, my clothes
Speaker 1: are looser, so that's where at night under the sheets
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I'm all it and that's water being
Speaker 1: lost and the majority is looser. So I think I
Speaker 1: want to, like wait till i'm down more kep more
Speaker 1: found twenty five pounds. I'm gonna I'm gonna look for
Speaker 1: something until man, I'm I'm gonna put it out. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you, you can't be uh leaving there
Speaker 1: pussy on clean for the whole weekend. If you sweat
Speaker 1: like that, you know I really had more clothes, you said,
Speaker 1: the whole week, every one day. And he don't be
Speaker 1: showering either. You meet him funking together. That's love right there,
Speaker 1: That love which one of us think, don't matter. Baby,
Speaker 1: we love each other. But you had to go up
Speaker 1: stopballers time, yall, y'all, we're gonna have to break right quick.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna see if Jackie has
Speaker 1: a dumb bitch story for us. Okay, dumb bitch stories,
Speaker 1: so because we've all been a dumb bitch at least
Speaker 1: once or twice, all right, so we have this segment.
Speaker 1: It's called dumb bit story, and um, it's where you
Speaker 1: are one of us share time where we got played
Speaker 1: by a man, typically like where you were a dumb
Speaker 1: bitch for a guy. Oh god, I don't even Oh
Speaker 1: this story is so embarrassing. But I was, I was
Speaker 1: beyond lived, but I was I was a dumb bitch.
Speaker 1: Who else dumb. Okay um, I'm trying to figure OTW
Speaker 1: Can I tell the story and not incriminate who with it?
Speaker 1: Who who's in the story with me? No? No, he
Speaker 1: deserves it, but I won't bother I. I went on
Speaker 1: a trip with a guy and we were all we
Speaker 1: were only friends. They do different rooms, and when we
Speaker 1: got there, he kind of disappeared because he Originally I
Speaker 1: guess he had let a girl know who lived in
Speaker 1: the state and he was gonna be there, so he
Speaker 1: was in this room. I remember I heard him in
Speaker 1: his room through the wall, sucking the girl and he
Speaker 1: went there to go that he arranged to visit when
Speaker 1: he came to the state, and it was just me
Speaker 1: this being mad, like why would you. We're not a couple,
Speaker 1: so you ain't gotta do a whole bunch of hiding.
Speaker 1: But in his mind it's for him. It was better
Speaker 1: for him to just be deceitful and hide rather than
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Jackie, I'm gonna go, but I got
Speaker 1: this girl waiting for me. I've been like, hey, cool,
Speaker 1: you know that's how we get down. But I heard
Speaker 1: them through the wall, fucking I lost my ship, tried
Speaker 1: to and I heard her sneak out the door that
Speaker 1: they were adjoining rooms, and I opened the hotel room
Speaker 1: door with the intention of going out there to kill her,
Speaker 1: to murder her, him, everyone on that floor. But you
Speaker 1: know that you know that that the wall locked on
Speaker 1: the hotel door, that you don't move it aside you
Speaker 1: came open the door. I was like, when I had
Speaker 1: that lockday, I was too mad to move the lock open.
Speaker 1: So the rest of the weekend I was like, you
Speaker 1: are a piece of ship. But I but I'm a
Speaker 1: dumb I should not have gone because I'm lying in
Speaker 1: that I had feelings for this guy. I lied to
Speaker 1: him to I didn't. I wanted to go on this
Speaker 1: trip and make it a romantic knowing god fully well
Speaker 1: he cannot do that, does not want to. But I
Speaker 1: went on this trip thinking that he would change and
Speaker 1: we've become this couple, or at least couple for the weekend.
Speaker 1: But instead we went got on a plane, went to
Speaker 1: the state. He found the girl fun through in the
Speaker 1: adjoining room. I heard the whole thing. I tried to
Speaker 1: kill him and her. He was like, why are you mad?
Speaker 1: And from that point on, I was kind of like
Speaker 1: realizing that was my that was my last, real, real,
Speaker 1: real dumb bitch moment, and that was only it might
Speaker 1: have been five years ago, it wasn't that long ago. See,
Speaker 1: that was my dumb bitch moment. Get on an airplane
Speaker 1: with a guy who did not want me picking He
Speaker 1: went when we got there, that's dumb. And then you know,
Speaker 1: that was my last example of extra dumb bitch behavior.
Speaker 1: So were you and this guy intimate at all before
Speaker 1: you wanted this trip? We were buddies, Okay, that's what
Speaker 1: I wanted to ye like, I was trying understand what
Speaker 1: it feeling it right back, and we were buddy for
Speaker 1: a long time, reliable blood funk by the friendship first
Speaker 1: fucking every now and then. So we had this trip
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, we're gonna go on the trip
Speaker 1: and be this fi, gonna our lives away and have
Speaker 1: a great time. But he was like, I'm a boat
Speaker 1: on this trip. I'm don't suck you too. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: suck her and I'm gonna su her. I'm gonna find her.
Speaker 1: He had y'all fu on the trip at all. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was complete drama. Me like I want I wish
Speaker 1: he would die. It was the worst. Well, I feel
Speaker 1: like he was wrong. Why would if you having titches
Speaker 1: to fund somebody else, don't bring your funk buddy, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like he was wrong for that. He was wrong,
Speaker 1: he was I was wrong, I was dumb, and he
Speaker 1: was wrong. It was all a cluster from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Then the whole thing wasn't mess. You know, I should
Speaker 1: have realized, Jackie, this guy is fun buddy in l A.
Speaker 1: Leave him there. Don't get on the airplane with the
Speaker 1: fun buddy because there's no commitment. There's no respect, you know,
Speaker 1: when we get there and then to have the talk.
Speaker 1: We're buddies. You don't really have to have a talk
Speaker 1: your buddies. But I realized you gotta have a talk
Speaker 1: with everybody had over communications. How you have success in romance, commitment,
Speaker 1: sexual only you know, fun buddy friend, You gotta have
Speaker 1: communication so you know where you're so you're on the
Speaker 1: same page. Right, So y'all, y'all did go like on
Speaker 1: this trip, right? You ain't pay for the hotel room
Speaker 1: for him to yeah, okay, okay, so it was a
Speaker 1: work trip, so we we earned money while we were there.
Speaker 1: Be there. Okay, that's kind. But but I chose him
Speaker 1: because I was the headliner, thinking, okay, I'll bring him.
Speaker 1: He's amazingly funny, but he's a print, so that's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you out the show my nigga stage. No, he did
Speaker 1: the show. He was mediover because he was an asshole.
Speaker 1: The owner was like, your friend, he's has attitude and
Speaker 1: he's not a really nice guy, but he's funny and
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. But it's over. I learned from
Speaker 1: that point on. I ain't talked to him or seeing
Speaker 1: them pretty much since then. It's kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: severed our friendship, but we're not cool anymore because of that,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why did he suck it out? He
Speaker 1: was going so well, that's what That's why I'm more mad.
Speaker 1: I'm more mad that we had a cool fuck buddy
Speaker 1: thing and it was fun for years and had my
Speaker 1: reason to end, but because he's a dick, it ended.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I ended, Because you wouldn't
Speaker 1: like with your fiance right now if you were still
Speaker 1: sucking your fun buddy. Oh look at you. That's Jesus,
Speaker 1: that's great. You're right. I believe you. If I didn't
Speaker 1: have to learn to let that guy go through painful experiences,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, Okay, maybe I'm ready for actual
Speaker 1: respect and love now. And now you gotta go through
Speaker 1: a lot of frogs to get your care. Have to.
Speaker 1: We'll choosing you don't have to be sometimes you gotta learn,
Speaker 1: get the rough lesson. You gotta go. You feel that's
Speaker 1: so good sometimes, ain't it the hurt? We feel it's
Speaker 1: so good, So gus the pain. And then and you
Speaker 1: know why, I'm gonna be real with you, because I'm
Speaker 1: all about truth now. I did him again after that weekend.
Speaker 1: I know you did, We know you did. We we knew.
Speaker 1: It's never the dumbest story is never over. And at
Speaker 1: the end of the store, etcetera, like like, you give
Speaker 1: y'all some dumb bitch grace then. But I don't feel
Speaker 1: any shame, really, I was kind of like, hey, I
Speaker 1: was making decisions based on my I believe that you
Speaker 1: make potensions based on where you are self esteem wives
Speaker 1: in your life period. I always said that that felt
Speaker 1: low and hungry and thirsty, and I'm like, whatever, please anything,
Speaker 1: And I picked him because I was there. I would
Speaker 1: never I wouldn't consider it now at all. But you
Speaker 1: want you date where you are, exactly where you are
Speaker 1: whatever date means to you. You date where you are. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And when you're feeling like you the ship, niggas can
Speaker 1: never see your pussy. No, y'all, just get a migrator.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be hugging When I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm the ship. I'm like, Hey, let's pumping outright,
Speaker 1: monkey playing back. That's why I was selling niggas all
Speaker 1: we can anything. You can try to damp me or
Speaker 1: hug me monkey pox. Hey, that's all I got for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't even touch my elbow, nigga. If you want
Speaker 1: to keep a cold like many salute, but don't touch me.
Speaker 1: Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Jab Tell everybody where
Speaker 1: they can find your one hour special and everything that
Speaker 1: you're doing. Go to my website at Jackie Fabulous dot com.
Speaker 1: Allegation like like Comedy Special, Menoplause and comedy album is
Speaker 1: also called Menopause, said both out on my website. You
Speaker 1: can get it everywhere, So go to Jackie Capulous dot com.
Speaker 1: It will lead you to the world of me. My
Speaker 1: next show days coming up, uh the album the Special.
Speaker 1: I'll be at the DC Comedy law. It's my first
Speaker 1: or the third, and that's really it. I had fun later.
Speaker 1: I rarely get to do these with black women. I
Speaker 1: miss you white always want me on the podcast. I
Speaker 1: want more podcasts like that. Ye come back then that
Speaker 1: wants some black people. Oh yeah, and she's at Jackie
Speaker 1: Fabulous on Instagram. I don't know if you told everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all follow y'all yep, yep, yep. Yeah. You ever coming
Speaker 1: down to Charlotte or Charleston. We need to come see
Speaker 1: I did. I did the Comedy House before COVID. Is
Speaker 1: that South Caroline? That's Columbia, South Carolina. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was there, but I'm I'm touring. The tour days are
Speaker 1: coming up because you know, the special or whatever and
Speaker 1: things come up in the future, so I'll be on
Speaker 1: tour more. But I want the South and black folks.
Speaker 1: I've been doing more of that and I love it
Speaker 1: and I want more. So Yeah, because they're gonna have it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a grill outside the comedy house with
Speaker 1: the ship and chicken. That was fine. I loved it
Speaker 1: that when I was there, so I look more to more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Come back and see us. Okay, lad
Speaker 1: you think you had a great time, a lot of
Speaker 1: honest discussion, and I hope I was get in trouble
Speaker 1: after all this. Yeah, just tell your nigga, don't listen
Speaker 1: to this episode. Nothing. I'd be like he'd been like
Speaker 1: working on I'm like nowhere. I don't like nowhere nowhere.
Speaker 1: I'm in front of you right now. My next nigger
Speaker 1: gotta be able to deal with this ship. Listen, I
Speaker 1: explaining a motherfucking thing. Okay, you know what my guys
Speaker 1: now he's done on social media. That's why I'm marrying him.
Speaker 1: You know you don't, but you don't like all this
Speaker 1: stuff When you got a guy was like I don't
Speaker 1: do that. I'm like, oh, I mean couple now, But
Speaker 1: then I don't like people who don't have a blue
Speaker 1: like a little footprint online. Now I need to be
Speaker 1: able to see what the funk you got going on?
Speaker 1: How you interact a little bit it somebody. Some people
Speaker 1: really don't want to do it, though, And when I
Speaker 1: meet that, I get it. I understand why, Like I
Speaker 1: kind of respect that I can't do it now, but
Speaker 1: you know when because you know, if I'm if I'm
Speaker 1: jealous and he's fine Instagram, right, keep it real facts, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, y'all listen. If you guys enjoyed this episode,
Speaker 1: please tune in every Thursday on your heart radio app.
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Speaker 1: y'all follow me on Instagram. Keep sending them dumb bit stories.
Speaker 1: All right, So Jackie gave us a great one today.
Speaker 1: We know y'all got them in the bucket, all right,
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Speaker 1: and never hold your motherfucking peace. Doocey fine th