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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out

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Speaker 1: Podcast Monday afternoon about four or fifteen, just hit record.

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Speaker 1: That's spent some football takes, because that's what I do

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Speaker 1: here on the Three and Out Podcast. Thanks everyone for listening.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone that's been going to UH on iTunes

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Speaker 1: and leaving a review UH. I appreciate. Just keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't done it, do it and thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: And we've had a couple of hundred in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks since I've been talking about it, So

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Speaker 1: you guys are awesome. Thanks everyone for listening. And this

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Speaker 1: is school. I get to talk about football, you know,

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Speaker 1: to pay my bills. I doesn't get lost on me.

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Speaker 1: How pretty awesome this job is, and just that, like

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Speaker 1: I say it all the time, but how lucky I

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Speaker 1: am to do this, you know, for with Colin and

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Speaker 1: on his feed and him promoting it. It's pretty special.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate everyone listening that likes it. And did

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Speaker 1: a response on Apple. Coming up today, I have some

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the c b A. It feels like we're

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Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch and Eric Winston told Peter

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Speaker 1: King that he thinks it's gonna be signed or voted.

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Speaker 1: Get a yes from the players this week. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: XFL broadcasts. I stumbled upon an XFL game on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday. It was the first time I'd watched, like

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes straight. I was blown away by the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of you guys have tweeted at me

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Speaker 1: and uh and d m me about different things about

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Speaker 1: about that? And I hadn't really watched, and it was

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Speaker 1: I watched. There's some cool, cool stuff that they do

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Speaker 1: that maybe we could transition to the NFL. I jotted

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Speaker 1: down a couple of things that might be realistic, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be some things that they do that just

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Speaker 1: aren't but we can we could talk through it. That's

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Speaker 1: what podcast before we got unlimited time to talk wide

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Speaker 1: receiver market. Uh. You know, there are some interesting names

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Speaker 1: on the wide receiver market. Have some thoughts and how

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Speaker 1: the draft is going to impact free agency, which is

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're less than ten days away. It's Mart's

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Speaker 1: ninth as you but you're listening as March tenth, once

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Speaker 1: got that moratorium period where they can legally tamper even

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Speaker 1: though we know they've been tampering, and rightfully so, probably

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Speaker 1: since maybe even before the combine, but definitely at the combine.

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Speaker 1: We got market values, and I think we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: having some things leak out what's going on. That's usually

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Speaker 1: how it happens. And then I just jotted down a

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Speaker 1: bunch of things this weekend, some stories that I saw

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Speaker 1: and just some we'll just do some quick hitters opinions

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Speaker 1: I have on it. But of course at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is my Instagram handle and we do. We end the

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Speaker 1: show every week with Middlecoff mailbags, and you just fire

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Speaker 1: in there, leave a little question and I will give

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Speaker 1: you my thoughts here on the UH on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with this cb A negotiations. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not smart enough and it would take me too long

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Speaker 1: been pretty consistent with this that if you're the players.

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Speaker 1: I I lived with a guy, a friend of a friend,

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Speaker 1: I've said this all along. Weed is not federally illegal,

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Speaker 1: So when you have tests force, but there are insurance ramifications.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure as everyone that like in my business not

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Speaker 1: impacted by Corona in the sense of I don't have

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Speaker 1: like town hall podcasts where you have to come out

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Speaker 1: to me. But I have people that run businesses that

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Speaker 1: The owners would have given that to you. No matter what.

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Speaker 1: making any other walk of life, that's a great freaking living.

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Speaker 1: course not so all the owners are gonna come together.

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Speaker 1: like I. I I give Richard Sherman a ton of respect.

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, halftime in the locker room. She's interviewing,

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Speaker 1: you know, a defensive tackle and he's like, gotta come

430
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: out and play better. All of a sudden, in the background,

431
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: you can tell there's like two minutes leftfore they have

432
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: to go out, and whoever the leader is on the team,

433
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: like everyone, bring it up, get your mind right. It's

434
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: like the guy starts giving the new Rockney halftime raw

435
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: Ross speech and he starts dropping some F bombs and

436
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: they have to bleep it out. I just think that,

437
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: and I think coaches and even owners would push back.

438
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: You can't like the locker room at halftime is kind

439
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Speaker 1: of sacred place live in in the swing of things.

440
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Speaker 1: But I do think there are elements to the XFL,

441
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Speaker 1: and we see it all the time right teams in football,

442
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: in the actual sport, they steal stuff from high school

443
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: and college. You think the football flows downhill, it actually

444
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: flows uphill. Think where did the spread offensive start, like

445
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: twenty years ago in in high school? I mean when

446
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: they really just spread all over the country. Now look

447
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: at the NFL, it actually works the other way. Well,

448
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you, uti lie Is. I'm sure the NFL

449
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: wanted the XFL to be very aggressive and try some

450
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: out of the box things and see if it works.

451
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Speaker 1: It's no different like spring training in baseball they try

452
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Speaker 1: robo umps, they try different things. They try stuff in

453
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Speaker 1: the minor leagues, in the G League, they've tried a

454
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: bunch of random things and see if they could work

455
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Well, that's where the XFL kind of

456
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: gets to operate as just this blank canvas, especially because

457
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: they're in bed with Fox and ESPN to try some

458
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: pretty innovative things and you go, you know what, this

459
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Speaker 1: one work. This wouldn't work, but I think this would

460
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Speaker 1: work and it would be pretty sweet. So don't be

461
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Speaker 1: shocked you heard it here first. It's been like three

462
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: or four years the XFL. There's a lot of carry

463
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: over the things they do on the broadcast booth to

464
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Speaker 1: what happens to the NFL games. Okay, let's dive into

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Speaker 1: the NFL free agency and specifically the wide receiver market.

466
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Speaker 1: And what makes free agency very very different than your

467
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Speaker 1: typical marketplace is in a month in a half from now,

468
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: maybe a little less like a month, in two weeks,

469
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: a month and a half, I guess you have four

470
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: weeks in a month, there is a lot of cheap

471
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Speaker 1: labor coming down the pipe at the wide receiver position.

472
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Speaker 1: And think about this like if you want to buy

473
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Speaker 1: a house, if I gave you a million dollars cash

474
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Speaker 1: to buy a house, well, if you were living in

475
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Speaker 1: Florida or Texas, the house you could buy would probably

476
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Speaker 1: be a lot different than the house you could buy

477
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Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills or some sweet place in New York.

478
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Speaker 1: If I told you to buy a specific house on

479
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Speaker 1: a certain street, there is a finite number of houses

480
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Speaker 1: on that street. Right, There's not just you can press

481
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Speaker 1: a button in the street. You know, it starts adding

482
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Speaker 1: three or four homes like the streets the street where

483
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: in free agency, the group of free agents is the

484
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Speaker 1: group the guys who are unrestricted free agents. When I

485
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Speaker 1: worked in the nf bell still to this day and

486
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Speaker 1: well before, I guess it started in the mid early

487
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: nineties that Reggie White first year. There's a group you

488
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Speaker 1: are a unrestricted free agency. Then there are the group

489
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Speaker 1: of cap casualties who then also become an unrestricted free agent.

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Speaker 1: Uh has the ability to sign whatever. What makes that

491
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Speaker 1: group of men and and specifically the wide receiver position

492
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: this year kind of somewhat of an outlier in a

493
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Speaker 1: bad way is there is another group at that same

494
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Speaker 1: position coming in the draft and it's supposed to be

495
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Speaker 1: a quote unquote historically great wide receiver draft. Well, what

496
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Speaker 1: do you usually have to do in free agency? You

497
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: have to pay a premium because you're usually not just

498
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Speaker 1: bidding against yourself. Like when you extend a player, even

499
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Speaker 1: if it's a year or two before he hits unrestricted

500
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: free agency, you're getting somewhat of a discount because you're

501
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Speaker 1: buying out years of service time, you're giving him financial stability,

502
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Speaker 1: but you're not bidding against other teams. Like the forty

503
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: Diners right now are trying to sign George Kittle into

504
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: Forest Buckner. Well, if George Kittle have the Cowboys, the Eagles,

505
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: and the Patriots coming after him, the Nighters would have

506
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Speaker 1: to pay a lot more money than potentially they might

507
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Speaker 1: have to pay. Or if the Forest Bucker the Philadelphia

508
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: Eagles because signed the Forest Buckler, I'm just using the Eagles,

509
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: could be the Colts whoever, that price will go high.

510
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Speaker 1: But they're just kind of bidding against themselves because he's

511
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: not really going anywhere now. They're bidding against his agent,

512
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: who's trying to use leverage, but he's not a free agent,

513
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Speaker 1: like if Amari Cooper hits free agency and he's the

514
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Speaker 1: one kind of like I would say prize of this

515
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Speaker 1: group because once upon a time when I had a

516
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Speaker 1: radio show which is now just a podcast, the Habraman

517
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Speaker 1: a Middlecoff show. It was on the Raiders channel, and

518
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: I did the post game for the Raiders and that

519
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: was during the car Mac and a Mari Era and

520
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Speaker 1: a Mari. It was like my second year on the

521
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: radio and A mari was drafted and for those first

522
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Speaker 1: his first two years, Amory looked and we did a

523
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: segment and the segment sounds a little crazy now, but

524
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: we were very, very out of it, like this guy

525
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: is going straight to the Hall of Fame because he

526
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: kind of had this Jerry Rice vibe to him. Was quiet,

527
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: but his game it was just gonna work. I don't

528
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: think that anymore. I would not call Amari Cooper hall

529
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Speaker 1: of Famer. I actually wouldn't be comfortable paying a Marii

530
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: Cooper seventy million dollars guaranteed. And I think he's a

531
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: really good player, but he's got to be in the

532
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: right environment. You know, there's some toughest questions. I know

533
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: he's been injured, he's durability questions a little bit. Though

534
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: he does play, but when he's not a hundred percent,

535
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: he's not exactly himself. But Mary is a good player.

536
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: If a mari is your number two, you have the

537
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Speaker 1: best one of the best number two is in the league.

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00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: Is he a true number one? Probably not, Probably somewhat

539
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: of a tweeter. Good player gonna get gonna get paid.

540
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: But when you look at like Randall Cobb and Emmanuel Sanders,

541
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Speaker 1: Randall Cobbs kind of had a resurrection year in Dallas,

542
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: had like over fifty catches at several touch downs. Emmanuel

543
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: Sanders flipped his career immediately when he came to San

544
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: Francisco and started making plays for him. The thing I

545
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: would say if I was a general manager and I

546
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: did a segment last week where you do know exactly

547
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Speaker 1: what you're getting with a veteran player, like if I

548
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: signed Emmanuel Sanders. Really my only red flag is that

549
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: he's older. But historically he's been really durable. He had

550
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: one major injury injury, but he produced for like seven

551
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: straight years and when he's played with good quarterbacks, minus

552
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: the last couple of years in Denver, he kicked ass

553
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: and took names. Randall Cobb has been very productive player

554
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: over his career, But would I rather pay Like what

555
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: if I got a bid to get these guys and

556
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: I gotta get to instead of paying them four or

557
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: five million dollars on a typical year, because there's so

558
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: much money, that number might get closer to ten. And

559
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Speaker 1: I'm drafting fourteen in a year where the wide receiver

560
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: draft is loaded, and I can get that guy at

561
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: pick fourteen for like four million dollars a year. Now

562
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: there's the unknown that guy might not be better than

563
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: a man Sanders in history would show us, you know,

564
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: Verry hit or miss probably won't be. But that's that's

565
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: not really the way these general managers think. So I

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Speaker 1: do think this market. It's like like I said, with

567
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: the house, if you want a house on the street,

568
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: to get another house on another street, you have to

569
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: go to another street where if you want a wide

570
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: receiver you could easily. And it's somewhat with the tackle market.

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00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: To Jason Peters, Trent Williams, all these tackles are available,

572
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Speaker 1: you go, well, do I want to trade for Trent

573
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Speaker 1: Williams and then pay him twenty million or just wait?

574
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Speaker 1: And I'm because I'm drafted number nine overall, I'll probably

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Speaker 1: get the second best tackle in the draft at a

576
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Speaker 1: quarter of the price, and I'll have him under contract

577
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Speaker 1: for a long period time. So these are the conversations

578
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: that are being had. But at wide receiver Nelson Aglar,

579
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Speaker 1: who had a down season this year, we get thirty

580
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: nine catches the last couple of years had been playing

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Speaker 1: on really good teams. Two years ago when they won

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00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, he played a pretty big role, and

583
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: last year when they made the playoffs, he obviously helped

584
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: Carson and Nick Foles a lot, a lot down the stretch.

585
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: It's a pretty productive career. But am I giving Nelson

586
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: Aguilar seven eight million dollars when I could just draft

587
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: a guy in a month in the second round who

588
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: held for a million dollars might just be Nelson Aguilar.

589
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: So when you look at the free agent market, it's

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Speaker 1: why when the premium guys, when they ever hit it,

591
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get paid. Because if you could ever get

592
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a premium guys don't ever

593
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: hit unrestricted free agent. But the the the occasional times

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Speaker 1: when a Reggie White it happened a lot like back

595
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Speaker 1: in the day. But you know Amari Cooper would be

596
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: closer to that type player. But a player of that

597
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: if Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald, you have no problem giving

598
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: him an a lot of money, right, But I do

599
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: think you think twice with role players. Now you also

600
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: factor in the CAP's gone up. Is it worth just

601
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Speaker 1: paying Emmanuel Sanders seven million dollars and also drafting a guy?

602
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Speaker 1: And that's where I think teams it's a little easier

603
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Speaker 1: to will give quote unquote an overpay for an older

604
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: veteran player. But when you see some of these guys,

605
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: if they don't sign right away at wide receiver, the Cobs,

606
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: the Emmanuel Sanders, the Nelson Aguilars, like Amory, I wouldn't.

607
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: He's not in that class. Just know that the draft

608
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: impacts this stuff, and the order of this free agency

609
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: comes before the draft. It's why you often see like

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Speaker 1: I'll get this middle to early April, like why John,

611
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: why isn't this guy signed? What's this guy doing? Well,

612
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: you know what he's waiting for. He's waiting for after

613
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Speaker 1: the draft. So a team goes, hey, I'm willing to

614
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: pay you three million dollars now, and that guy thinks

615
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: he's worth more than that. Maybe he can get the

616
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: five million dollars from that specific team if he waits

617
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: a month. The draft goes by and they don't land

618
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: his position, and they realize, well, we need this guy,

619
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Speaker 1: go sign him. So there is a wave of free

620
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: agency that right or wrong is just impacted by the unknown,

621
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Speaker 1: and the unknown is a power, a full thing. What

622
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: do they say? The most powerful thing like in the

623
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: world is hope from a positive standpoint, like the most

624
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: powerful thing in sports, whether it's right or wrong, our

625
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: our our draft picks and our high draft picks. When

626
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: you need a specific position, and that position in a

627
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: draft is known as a loaded position. So if you're

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00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: a team, a wide receiver needy team, even if you

629
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: have some money, now, I'd argue double down by one

630
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: of these guys and draft a guy, especially if you

631
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: have a young quarterback. But if I if I'm somewhat

632
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: limited in cash trap, do I want to over extend

633
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: myself or Doway just want to wait till the draft,

634
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Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna see a lot of teams

635
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: wait till the draft on wide receivers. Okay, let's dive

636
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: into some headlines, just some basic things that I saw

637
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. Dak Prescott turns down

638
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: a hundred and five million dollars guaranteed. You know, are

639
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: we is he trying to get an extra five six

640
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: seven million dollars because what it didn't Jared Goff get

641
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: a hundred ten Well, Dak, he led a team to

642
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, Now did he quote unquote lead them?

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Speaker 1: He was starting quarterback for a super Bowl team. Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz almost won the m v P and they had

645
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Speaker 1: to trade a mountain to get him so and he

646
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: also got around that same number. So a hundred five million,

647
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: to me, feels more than fair for Dak. Like, what

648
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: what are we what are we arguing over at this point?

649
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: If it's truly a hundred and five million dollars guaranteed,

650
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Speaker 1: that's went Scoff money, and that's he's And to me,

651
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: it's still too much. I mean I look at that

652
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Speaker 1: like twenty million dollars too much. But like I said,

653
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Speaker 1: I thought Goff was way overpaid. I'm not naive enough

654
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Speaker 1: to not understand the way economics work. I get he's

655
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Speaker 1: kind of in that ballpark, and and I like Dak.

656
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: I just that's if he's turning that down, I think

657
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: he's getting a little crazy. He's getting some bad advice

658
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: there there. You know. It's like I love it when

659
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: the media is like everyone always loves to call the

660
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: players greedy. Well, it's a hundred five million dollars. He's

661
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: turning down that that you couldn't you. We're a big

662
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: reason you didn't make the playoffs this year. You were

663
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: atrocious in a must win game against the Eagles, overthrowing

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Speaker 1: guys left and right. Again, I'm pro dec. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a good starting quarterback in the league. I like

666
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: daking about million dollars, not thirty four million dollars and

667
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: five guaranteed, but cost of doing business. And you know,

668
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I know cap guys that would tell me, well, John,

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00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: the salary caps going up at twenty million dollars a

670
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Speaker 1: year moving forward if they get the cb A done,

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00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: you know, starting quarterbacks, the good ones will be making

672
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: forty million before you know. And I'm like, okay, I

673
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Speaker 1: get it. But man to ah, I think rap sheet

674
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Speaker 1: said that to uh, He's at the four month mark

675
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: and it's just sunshines, rainbows and thumbs up. Everything is

676
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: good to go. The hip is good. That sounds awesome

677
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: and everything I heard it's positive. But until the draft comes,

678
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: I think there is somewhat of an unknown he could

679
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Speaker 1: go to. But to me, there is a wild card.

680
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: What if some teams were flag him and he falls

681
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And when I say falls like goes

682
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Speaker 1: eight nine ten, like you know, falls down, someone trades

683
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: up to get him. I think they're I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: in much stock to what the media is telling me

685
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Speaker 1: through his agent. If a general manager wants to come

686
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Speaker 1: out and says, you know what, we have glowing grades

687
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: on to his medical and we if we needed a quarterback,

688
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Speaker 1: we'd have no problem taking him, then I'll believe that.

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00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: But media with ta we know that's coming from the agent.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm not saying it's not true. I

691
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Speaker 1: just I don't know. I'm not a doctor, just state

692
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: school kid. But until until the draft will tell us.

693
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: The actions will speak louder than words. Trent Williams wants

694
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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year. He's definitely when he's in

695
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: the peak of his power, is a twenty million dollar player.

696
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: If tackles are left, tackles are worth twenty million dollars.

697
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: He did miss the season. Now you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: that's good, let's tread on the tires. What do you

699
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Speaker 1: have to give up for a thirty one year old

700
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: that that would be my question and how much do

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Speaker 1: I have to pay him? Because I would imagine he's

702
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Speaker 1: looking for seventy eighty million dollars and guaranteed money. Now,

703
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: he's a really good player, and there are teams that

704
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: are desperate for offensive lineman. I think we know the

705
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are desperate for an offensive tackle. So would

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Speaker 1: they be willing to give a second round pick and

707
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: pay him a lot of money? You'd think they would

708
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: discuss that. I definitely think he'll have a market. I

709
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Speaker 1: just think having sit out a year, Remember there was

710
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Speaker 1: some weird things with injury, like cancer type stuff with

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams. Remember, I just it's a little more complicated

712
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: than just seven time pro bowler wants a big contract

713
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Speaker 1: that there are some weird variables there. I texted my

714
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: buddy Jordan Ranan, who covers the Giants for ESPN, and

715
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: I saw the headline Leonard Williams and Dave Gettleman and

716
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: the Giants are not close to a new deal. Well,

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00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: he's a free agent, so they plan on tagging him,

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Speaker 1: and even if it's a transition tag, let's say they

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Speaker 1: franchise tag him. I think there's a chance. I have

720
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Speaker 1: to do some research on this. And I didn't, but

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00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: I just I got a pretty good idea of the

722
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Speaker 1: players that have been franchised over the years. You could

723
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: say the worst player ever franchise might be Robbie Gold

724
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Speaker 1: and I think for argument's sake, kickers wouldn't count. But

725
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Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident that Leonard Williams would be the

726
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: worst defensive player ever franchised. Offensively, there have been some

727
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: guards and centers, but typically like it's like Logan, Mankins, Marshall,

728
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Yonda Right, Brandon Brooks. I know some of those guys

729
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: had Logan once upon a time was but to be

730
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Speaker 1: a franchise player on offensive linement, you gotta be pretty

731
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Speaker 1: good wide receivers to get franchise or like Odell Beckham

732
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Speaker 1: level guys, Julio level guys, Gronkowski, Zeke Elliott, Leonard Williams,

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Speaker 1: Leonard how many sacks? I'm gonna google it as I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: If I had to guess, Leonard Williams has in five

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Speaker 1: years of playing, has twelve career sacks that that would

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Speaker 1: be my guests and he has seventeen and a half

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Speaker 1: career sacks, So I was I was a little off.

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Speaker 1: Last season he had half a sack half a sack

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Speaker 1: for the Giants and the Jets. You're gonna franchise a

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Speaker 1: player that at half a sack. Now, he's probably a

741
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: solid run player. But in two thousand and twenty, and

742
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: I ain't paying for run defense. I can buy that.

743
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I can draft at the mid rounds. I can buy

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00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: that at a low premium, paying twelve million dollars or

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: thirty even if you transition tag and that that seems crazy.

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Speaker 1: Who is paying Leonard Williams if he is tagged? John

747
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Middlecoff you heard it here first? I just went third person.

748
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: But worst player ever franchised? That's saying that's not really

749
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: saying something because it's a it's a usually a group

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00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: of elite players, like just the Yanka Dockway, Like that's

751
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: the type guy that gets franchised. Did Avian Clowney, Laramie

752
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: Tunzil Right? Uh? Maybe Eric Armstead who's coming off like

753
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: a career year kicking ass and taking names. Now, I

754
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: don't know if he d Ford, Frank Clark, Leonard Williams

755
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: half a sack, Dave Gettleman, what are you doing? Tom Brady?

756
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: Mike Reese reported that Tom Brady that the Patriots when

757
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: all the dust settles with the c b A will

758
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Speaker 1: be comfortable giving him around twenty five million dollars, and

759
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: it's been it feels pretty clear out of the Brady

760
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 1: camp that it's not gonna be about money. It's gonna

761
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: be more about what the Patriots can do. I saw

762
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk headline that rumors have surfaced in NFL

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00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: circles that Belichick has been sniffing around at wide receivers

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00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: and tight ends, which makes sense. He needs to, you know,

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00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: try to go Land and digs go Land. Uh, I'm

766
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Speaker 1: not this guy is not available, but a George Kittle

767
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: and Zach Ertz. Can you trade for some player out there?

768
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: Can you trade your first round pick for Stefan Dicks?

769
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Speaker 1: Now they don't have a second round pick because they

770
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: traded for Mobbinson New not ideal, but he he's got

771
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: to get aggressive here. Does he sign him Marie Cooper

772
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Speaker 1: and and trade that that pick for Stefon dis Does

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Speaker 1: you just wait for the draft. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I I do think that Belichicks will be aggressive. Josh Norman,

775
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the guaranteed money. It was up to

776
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: six million dollars with incentives. So who knows. I mean

777
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: the guaranteed money could be a hundred thousand dollars. Has

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Speaker 1: signed with Sean McDermott, former defensive coordinator. Fits the scheme.

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Speaker 1: I get they know each other and have a relationship.

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Speaker 1: I just the Josh Norman I've seen play the last year,

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Speaker 1: last really two years, has been atrocious. I mean, he

782
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Speaker 1: does not try. He has some physical limitations. That's why

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Speaker 1: he has to be in the right defense with Sean

784
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: McDermott knows how to use them, but he doesn't even try.

785
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: Like Richard Sherman can't run. He tries right. That's why

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. He gives good effort. You don't

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00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: need to be blazing fast once you get to a

788
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: level of your a big physical press corner user smarts.

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00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: He literally just gives up on play after play whenever

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00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: I watched and play last year was an abomination for

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Speaker 1: Josh Norman. So depending on how much money they gave him,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna red flag that transaction a little bit, even

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Speaker 1: with the previous relationship they Let's get to the Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is my insta and it's um,

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Speaker 1: it's how we's how we the show of the people.

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Speaker 1: That's what we call the show. It's three and out.

797
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: We could rename the show three and out with the People.

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Speaker 1: And I just happened to be the voice of the

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Speaker 1: people at John middlecoff Instagram same as my Twitter handle.

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Speaker 1: Slide up in there and ask questions like this question

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Speaker 1: for the mail bag? Is it crazy to think the

802
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: vocal players who want to know vote on this CBA

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00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: proposal are mostly just making a stink because trying to

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00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: stick it to the man is the cool thing to

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00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: do in two thousand twenty. It's understandable that seventeen games

806
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: blows for them, but it seems like they got a

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00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: lot in return that would benefit the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: past and present players. Thanks for the great show. Uh No.

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00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: I I think it's you know, Sexton and just knowing

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Speaker 1: a player that's involved with this. Following the the vocal

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Speaker 1: players that are you know, that are active with it,

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Speaker 1: I think they think that just the the the greedy

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00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: owners should just give more. You know that they are billionaires,

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Speaker 1: they own the team. I think if you ask if

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Speaker 1: if Richard Truman was sitting here, I understand why they

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00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: make this much money, but there should be an element

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Speaker 1: where we have a little more access to the cash

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Speaker 1: because they are putting their bodies on the line. But

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Speaker 1: the number one thing that these players have going against

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Speaker 1: them is just is the length of the deal. I

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Speaker 1: think for is if this was the NBA, I'd say

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Speaker 1: it would be a lot of fake wokesm for like

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Speaker 1: takedown owners. I don't think that's the case here. I

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Speaker 1: think they're really just fighting. They don't always fight for

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00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: the right things, but I think their heart and they're

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Speaker 1: they're doing what they think is right, and they attack

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Speaker 1: what they think, you know, more money for training camp,

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Speaker 1: more money for the poorer players. I actually think it's

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Speaker 1: it's understandable. And I think the owners shows you they're

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Speaker 1: so rich. They have given some money back, right, they

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Speaker 1: gave more money to the and I again, I would

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Speaker 1: fight for more than a hundred grand, maybe two under grand.

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Speaker 1: But to them, they're like, well, we're giving a race

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Speaker 1: to the dude making five grand, right, if I'm giving you,

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Speaker 1: I guess it would hundred grand if it grows every year.

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Speaker 1: So if it's a hunder grand next year and in

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Speaker 1: two years it's a hundred two grand, you see where

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00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: the minimum players like, that's a lot of money. Because

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Speaker 1: if you only make five hundred and fifty grand, if

840
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: you get an extra hundred thousand dollars, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of cash. If you get an extra hundred thousands dollars

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00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: and your Russell Wilson you make thirty million dollars, it's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Think about this. If someone right now said, John, I'll

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Speaker 1: give you a hundred thousand dollars to shoot a commercial,

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Speaker 1: I would say no. I would say excuse me, yes,

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Speaker 1: so fast. You wouldn't even you could say, well, the

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Speaker 1: commercial is actually about a rectile dysfunction, or the commercials

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Speaker 1: about bowel movements. I mean, it could be about the

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Speaker 1: things that would make me look terrible. My god, costs

850
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Speaker 1: got some issue. I wouldn't care because a hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars of me. If you're just gonna pay me a

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for one day of shooting a commercial,

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Speaker 1: I would be like, do you need me to drive there?

854
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: Where's the commercial in Florida? I'll be there tomorrow. I'll

855
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: get my own ticket. Right. But a guy like Peyton,

856
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: Manning or Russell, they hang up on that. But the

857
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: guy like the minimum seventh round pick, the plays for

858
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: Niners or the Texans or the Seattle A hundred thousand

859
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: dollars a lot of money to them, So I do

860
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: think they are fighting for the greater good, not just

861
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: for attacking owners. And part of it is just the

862
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: c ba's up right that this isn't like five years

863
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: to go and they're threatening like the c B as

864
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: up and the owners are pushing for resolution more than

865
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: probably the players. Just started listening to you. About a

866
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: month ago, Big Fan went to the same high school

867
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: as Josiah Scott and was wondering what you thought, what

868
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: your thoughts were about his future in the league and

869
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: where he could be picked in this year's draft. Well,

870
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: full disclosure here, I am not super locked into Josiah Scott.

871
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: He is. I just googled it. He's the corner from

872
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: Michigan State and it looks like my guy, lanzer Lyning

873
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: does not have a high grade on him. Yeah, I

874
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't have an opinion, to be honest, it seems

875
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: like he might get drafted, which is cool, always cool

876
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: to grow up or know some guy that's gonna get drafted.

877
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: But I I don't know, no, uh, no credible opinion

878
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: because I I haven't watched a guy play. Do you

879
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: think there's any chance the Rams trade Cooper Cup this offseason?

880
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: He's going into the last year of his rookie deal

881
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: and obviously the Rams are in trouble financially and most

882
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: likely won't be able to extend resign him in free agency. Also,

883
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: do you see New England trading for him if they

884
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: can win now with which whatever quarterback they end up with? Uh,

885
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: what would Cooper Cup cost? Yeah? I just think that

886
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and Jared Gopps guy. So even if he

887
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: is in the last year of his contract, what round

888
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: they draft him in? Right, he was a second or

889
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: third round pick, might have been a third round, foreth

890
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: round pick. He doesn't make very much money, so it

891
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: doesn't behoove unless you're getting a second round pick, which

892
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd get a second round pick for

893
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: a slot receiver and a good receiver draft. You just

894
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: play it out. The head coach loves him, your quarterback

895
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: loves him, the team loves him. It's now. It's one

896
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: of those things that Belichick might do, Like if you

897
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: know that you can't resign him, could you flip Cooper

898
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: Cup this offseason? Like now Jarvis Landry is a better player. Well,

899
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: you could argue he had been a more productive player.

900
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: What was Cooper Cup last year? Yeah, I mean Cooper

901
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: Cup off an a c L injury, had ninety four catches,

902
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: eleven h yards, ten touchdowns. So you can say Cooper

903
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: Cup is Jarvis Landry, and Jarvis Landry got a second.

904
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: So could you trade Cooper Cup for a second round pick?

905
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: When you don't have a first or second round pick,

906
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: you use the third round pick, so you basically use

907
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 1: the third round pick. You got three really good years

908
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: out of him, well, actually two really good years. Well

909
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: where his NFL stats. He's gonna be his fourth year

910
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: in the league, so you got one. I mean he

911
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: was really good this year off the a c L.

912
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: He had a career year. He had a good rookie

913
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: year too, and then obviously he was gonna have a

914
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: huge two as an eighteen the year they made the

915
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But he towards a c L. I would

916
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: not be opposed. I mean, when you're in a financial pinch,

917
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: you have to be open minded with moving guys. Now,

918
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: I would imagine they would say our best chance to

919
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: succeed is to keep Cooper Cup on this team. So

920
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: next year when Todd Gurley comes off the books and

921
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: hopefully you can get rid of Brandon Cooks. That's where

922
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: the Brandon Cooks deal is just killing them. That the

923
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: Girly deal kills him. But at least Girly was elite

924
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: when they paid him, now backfired. Brandon Cooks is never elite.

925
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: The Belichick traded the first round pick for and then

926
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: you traded a first round pick for him, and then

927
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: you paid him off O t a work. I never

928
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: understood that, and I don't hate Brandon Cooks, but they

929
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: jumped the gun on that one. The Rams have done

930
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: some just got a little too aggressive on non core pieces.

931
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: Like you don't get super aggressive on a running back.

932
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: You don't get super aggressive on just a small speed receiver.

933
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: You get super aggressive on like a left tackle, on

934
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Hell, even on Jalen Ramsey. You don't do

935
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: that too. I'd rather quote unquote overpay Cooper Cup then

936
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: paid Girl or Brandon Cooks. Do you think the Niners

937
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: will look into drafting a corner this year to replace

938
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: Sherman or do you think that's something that they will

939
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: consider in coming years? Well, Richard's going into his last

940
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: year opposite of Sherman, who's so he's gonna be an

941
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: understricted free agent at the end of this season. Emmanuel Moseley,

942
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: who's the starting corner, is an undrafted free agent and

943
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: God love him so strong, solid, you know, role player.

944
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: Should he be a starter on a Super Bowl team,

945
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: he was pretty lucky that he was. You know, probably

946
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: nine of the eleven starters. We're just elite players. I mean, Buckner, Armstead, Warner, Kwan, Richard,

947
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: even Quasky Tarts pretty damn good. Jimmy Ward's an excellent nickel,

948
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: Kwan Kawan Williams pretty good. Uh, I guess Jimmy. They

949
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: on multiple nickels. They got a bunch of hybrid players.

950
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: Kawan is really a corner where Jimmy is a safety,

951
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: but Jimmy can cover the slot. Yeah, they need a corner,

952
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: so yes, But the problem is the Niners have a

953
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: first round pick, they don't have a second, they don't

954
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: have a third, and they don't have a fourth. Roll

955
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: the dice. They tried to win the Super Bowl this

956
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: year and they came damn close. So it was worth it.

957
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: If you're up, you would you'd be like, well, would

958
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: you give up a second, a third and a fourth pick,

959
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, to have a ten point lead with

960
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: seven minutes read maning in the Super Bowl and a

961
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: third and fifteen, you would say yes in a heartbeat. Now,

962
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: then wasp happens. Then Kelsey scores, Then you go three

963
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: and out, then they score again, you lose a Super Bowl.

964
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: You go, h could I have my third round pick back?

965
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: But that's not the way it works. So I think

966
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: they will. They got a wheel and deal. They gotta

967
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: add some picks, and I think the easiest way to

968
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: add a pick is a tag in trade Armstead. I

969
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: know they want to keep them, but to me, that's

970
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: what would Bill Belichick do. He would tag and trade

971
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead and keep the Forest Bucker. I wanted to

972
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: say that I grew up with Jordan love Got. We

973
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of people that know people, and it's

974
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: awesome to hear so many people talking about him. I

975
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: personally hope he goes to the Colts because I think

976
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: his talent and the offensive line, he could really be

977
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. Love the pot not even a question.

978
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: I think the cults are going to be in play

979
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: because if they signed Philip Rivers, he's thirty eight thirty

980
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: nine years old, He's not in the long term quarterback.

981
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: If they signed Philip Rivers, my educated guests would be

982
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: they would trade Jacoby Brissette, whether that's to the Dolphins

983
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: to be a bridge for to uh. I know, is

984
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's still under contract? He must be. Maybe if Brady leaves,

985
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: they trade him back to the Patriots. Maybe you just

986
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: never know. I mean, I think some team would pay,

987
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: would trade for Jacoby, and then you've got Rivers. Any

988
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: draft a guy. Are the Bills better off with Tom

989
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: Brady staying? McDermott and company seems to have him figured

990
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: out and the Bills d pass rush seems to struggle

991
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: most with athletic, more mobile quarterbacks. Where I would say no,

992
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: because if Tom Brady does resign, that probably means that

993
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: the rumor that came out on Monday that Belichick's been

994
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: sniffing around did all of a sudden they have. They

995
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: signed Austin Hooper and they trade for Stephen Dicks. Then

996
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: you're like, damn Brady came back. They draft a wide

997
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: receiver in the first round, they get Stephen Digs to

998
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: go with Edelman and some other guy and Austin Hooper

999
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, their defense is good and their

1000
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: offense is more explosive. I understand what you're saying the Bills,

1001
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: but to me, if their offense is dramatically better, their

1002
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: best chance to beat them would be with Jared Stidham

1003
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: next year or Andy Dalton. If i'm if I'm Sean McDermott,

1004
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: I want to play Jared Stidham, Andy Dalton, Jacobe Bursett

1005
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: and not Tom Brady. And factoring in that if Tom

1006
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Brady stays, that means they've added pieces and they've added

1007
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: bullets to his gun, because it's been pretty clear that

1008
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: it's constantly talked about if he's gonna return earn, it's

1009
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna be because they increase the talent around him, not

1010
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: necessarily because of the money. It's not about the money

1011
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: with Tom it never has been. It's about the the

1012
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: weapons around him. Is he throwing to Jacoby Myers or

1013
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: is he throwing Austin Hoopers and Stefon Diggs and Laviska

1014
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: Chanol with nikkil Harry, I'm a huge Dolphins fan, been

1015
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: a rough two decades. I feel you. If I'm the

1016
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: Lions take two at three? Is there any chance Miami

1017
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: just trades for Stafford. He is still relatively young, and

1018
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: I think he would be a good fit for Parker

1019
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: and Williams. Miami has plenty of picks. What would Stafford

1020
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: cost in such a scenario came up? Where is he

1021
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: just not worth his contract? The problem is the way

1022
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: NFL contracts work. When he got that hundred million dollars

1023
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: or whatever he got guaranteed a couple of years ago,

1024
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: you pro rate that bonus over the first couple of

1025
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: years of the contract. So, unlike a guy in baseball,

1026
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: if you give a guy a five years a hundred

1027
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars, you just pay him whatever. Right,

1028
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: I guess it would be thirty five million dollars. Whatever

1029
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: the math is, let's just use a round number. If

1030
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: you give a guy four years a hundred million dollars,

1031
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: you just pay him twenty five million dollars a year,

1032
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: and after two years you trade him. He has fifty

1033
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: million dollars remaining on the contract. In football, though, contract

1034
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: setup is not bad, so I am on the hook

1035
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: for his bonus money. So unless he wants to restructure

1036
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: give money back, I'm kind of stuck. And to me,

1037
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: he's just it's not fiscally, you don't have the ability

1038
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: to trade him because of the You're not gonna eat

1039
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: that much dead money on your salary cap. Same thing

1040
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: with Nick Foles. His salary cap number is enormous in

1041
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, I'm pretty sure. Like Nick Foles, let's

1042
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: just look up Matt Stafford first. I thought last time

1043
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: I looked up his contract that his dead cap a

1044
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: number that the Lions can't change if they trade him.

1045
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: It's like thirty forty million dollars. So Stafford's dead cap

1046
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty is thirty two million dollars. So

1047
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: you're telling me the Lions are gonna trade Matt Stafford

1048
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: and just incur a thirty two million dollar dead cap. Well,

1049
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: if the if the caps thirty or two hundred million dollars,

1050
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars would be fifteen percent of your cap

1051
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: for a player that's not even there. It's actually think

1052
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: about that. That's that's what makes an NFL trades a

1053
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: little complicated with once I pay the guy. It's what

1054
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: made Odell Beckham being traded this year so unprecedented, or

1055
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: last year to the to the Browns, because the Giants

1056
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: ate a bunch of money. If you're gonna trade Nick Foles,

1057
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna eat thirty three point eight million dollars. Stafford's

1058
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: cap hit if you just on your team was twenty

1059
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: one million dollars. Full's cap hit if he's on the

1060
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: Jags is twenty two million dollars. Both they're dead cap,

1061
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: meaning if you trade, the Matt number does not change

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Speaker 1: is over thirty. So now, if is it worth eat

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Speaker 1: biting the bullet? If you can get a first and

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Speaker 1: a second round pick for Stafford, maybe you'd think about it,

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Speaker 1: But it does become complicated, Like if the Warriors want

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Speaker 1: to pay Steff trade Steph Curry, they're just trading three

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Speaker 1: years remaining at you know, forty million, twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: The money that's already been paid, they paid it. The

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Speaker 1: money that's remaining has just you pay it if you

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Speaker 1: trade for him. Obviously they're not gonna trade him. But

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Speaker 1: it's a very black and white trade with these big

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Speaker 1: contract guys like Julio Jones. Remember they might trade him

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Speaker 1: last year once they give him sixty million dollars. I've

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Speaker 1: been Julio Jones dead cap this year. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: guess is forty million dollars. It's gotta be just astronomical.

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Speaker 1: As I'm looking it up, this is some Julio Jones

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Speaker 1: dead cap. This money I was off is fifty eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars, so Julio's cap hit is twenty. If they

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Speaker 1: were to trade him, he would account for more than

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Speaker 1: of their cap. So yeah, I got breaking news. Julio

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Speaker 1: Jones not that he would have been is not gonna

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Speaker 1: get traded. Appreciate everyone listening. Remember going to those Uh,

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Speaker 1: go to the reviews. Give me a little, give me

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Speaker 1: if you like the show, give a little review, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Three and out Apple, and uh, I'll see a little

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Speaker 1: later this week. I'll be on Twitter and Instagram all week,

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Speaker 1: so if you if you're bored, holler at me there. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for everyone for listening. Appreciate the support. POS