WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Bounce Back

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<v Speaker 1>Hig and everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The last night I took an

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<v Speaker 1>l but tonight a bounce back addition, as the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>look to rebound from Sunday's loss to the Texans as

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<v Speaker 1>they face the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday Night Football coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Whitworth will be part of the Amazon Prime broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>team and I'll talk to Big Wit about the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore rivalry and his friendship with Joe Burrow. Then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go one on one with safety Michael Thomas, who hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in a game yet this year, but continues to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the biggest leaders on the team. The

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<v Speaker 1>by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>thing since Jeff Wagner aka Bengal banner Boy. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been to a game at pay Court Stadium, chances

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<v Speaker 1>are you've seen one of the forty foot long banners

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<v Speaker 1>hanging high above the fifty yard line in section three forty.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been made for every home game for more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years by a rider dive Bengals fan named Jeff Wagner.

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<v Speaker 1>His social media handle is at Bengal banner Boy. The

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<v Speaker 1>banners are skillfully painted, very clever, and often paid tribute

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<v Speaker 1>to specific players or coaches. Examples include Joey to Chase

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<v Speaker 1>was the Choice and Loudini's d is Elite.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, the banner read coffin Nails Bam Bam bam,

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<v Speaker 1>a nod to what Dave Lapham and I typically say

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<v Speaker 1>after plays that clinch Bengals wins. Unfortunately, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>such play against Houston last week, but here's hoping we

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<v Speaker 1>get to scream that on Thursday night. Now time for

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<v Speaker 1>a game preview, beginning with one of the best players

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<v Speaker 1>in Bengals history. He was a four time Pro Bowler.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the NFL's Man of the Year in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, and one day he will be in the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Hall of Fame. It is great to visit

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<v Speaker 1>with our friend Andrew Widworth. Which are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of the broadcast team on Thursday Night when the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals take on the Ravens and you were part of

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<v Speaker 1>that rivalry twenty two times. What stands out about Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens games?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I got so many good stories of playing those games.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, some really good ones. I think one

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<v Speaker 3>of my first starts in Primtime actually was Bengals Ravens

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<v Speaker 3>in Cincinnati. Might have been Thursday Night Football actually playing

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<v Speaker 3>Terrell Suggs. So I'll never forget that moment, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for first time ever growing up as a fan watching

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<v Speaker 3>him play, getting drafted to Cincinnati and realizing you got

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<v Speaker 3>to playim and prime Time wasn't as exciting, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was fun. There's a lot of great robberies there, man,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of fun. I'll also remember, I think

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ten or eleven, maybe I try to finish Ray

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis after a play and I found out real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>While he's considered their leader in Captain because I think

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<v Speaker 3>the entire defense jumped me.

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<v Speaker 2>After the snap. So I've had some great Bengals Ravens memories.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it's a lot of fun. The band, the Flags.

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<v Speaker 3>I always loved playing in Baltimore. I tell people now

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<v Speaker 3>it's still one of the places I thought was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most fun to go play. Just the energy of that stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>The atmosphere is going to be awesome on Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>It always is in Baltimore. Let's talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about Joe Burrow. You two became close back in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty when he was recovering from knee surgery and you

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<v Speaker 1>were recovering from knee surgery, hung out on your couch

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<v Speaker 1>in California. What'd you learn about Joe during that time period.

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<v Speaker 3>I think just what a rare duty is man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>on the football, off of it, just a rare human being,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked away from that. Uh. You know, obviously you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Playing at LSU as a fan of his, playing in

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati at place I love, you know, like two places

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<v Speaker 3>that I really special in my heart. But I walked

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<v Speaker 3>away from it just a fan of Joe Burrow, the

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<v Speaker 3>man and the competitor, and so I have been an

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<v Speaker 3>avid aviod border of him, and and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I I producers are guys on the crew. They always

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<v Speaker 3>laugh they know I'm taking Joe's side on anything. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>just because I believe in him that much. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's that specially young human being, you know. And and

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<v Speaker 3>I think in this career and where he is in

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<v Speaker 3>this league as a young man, I think that sky's

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<v Speaker 3>the limit. And I can't wait to watch the journey

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<v Speaker 3>and the ride because I think he's just one of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys that being at your best when your best

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<v Speaker 3>is require competitive greatness. He's one of the most unique

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<v Speaker 3>people when he comes to that that I've been around,

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<v Speaker 3>and he has the mindset of it. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>always just get excited and look forward to what the

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<v Speaker 3>journey is going to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I can't wait to keep following it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's turn to the guys that are protecting Joe. Since

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<v Speaker 1>their Super Bowl loss to your Rams, the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>certainly addressed the offensive line. They've signed three free agents

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<v Speaker 1>that are starting. They drafted Cordel Vohlson. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that group is playing?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've continued to get better and better this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that one thing it really sticks out to

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<v Speaker 3>me is that, you know, Jona Williams man what a

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<v Speaker 3>move for him. I mean I was telling somebody this

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks ago. I did a podcast on

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line play, and to me, he's one of those

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<v Speaker 3>guys that this may literally have gone from something that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you always say in life with career opportunities,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sometimes what you think could be the worst

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<v Speaker 3>thing ever is the best, I think, and moving to

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<v Speaker 3>the right side maybe something that extends his career and

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<v Speaker 3>even maybe his ceiling in the league as a player.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought. I think he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Really shown that he's got a lot of upside there

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<v Speaker 3>and could be a really solid, you know, consistent player, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, and even maybe an elite one. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>he's looked really good.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's being signed to watch and then, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think with Orlando and everybody else, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>been fun to watch as they've grown together, got to

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<v Speaker 3>know each other. He's me playing a new offense, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's for him coming over from Kansas City. It's it's

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<v Speaker 3>still different and getting to know your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>He's continued to show why he was that prize free

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<v Speaker 3>agent at that position. And then you know, the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of that group has gotten better and better over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I know Rod Fitzpatrick, my teammate with the Amazon,

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<v Speaker 3>has plosed with Teddy Karris, so we we get updates

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<v Speaker 3>from Teddy and what a fun guy he is, and

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<v Speaker 3>that group and the interior has really gotten better and better.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's a fun group to watch. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you know, potentially, you know, the best O line for

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<v Speaker 3>sure that Burrows had since he's been there, and one

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<v Speaker 3>of the better old lines. And you know, in the

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<v Speaker 3>recent memory of Cincinnati, if they continue to progress this way,

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<v Speaker 3>really what they're going to have to lean on though,

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<v Speaker 3>When you've got a special quarterback as unique as Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>you need a special offensive line to go with them.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's been good to see that group continue

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<v Speaker 3>to get better and better every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to that Super Bowl game you were matched

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<v Speaker 1>up against, Trey Hendrickson has become one of the elite

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<v Speaker 1>pass rushers in the NFL. We've heard that Trey takes

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<v Speaker 1>on a different personality when he's on the field. There's

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<v Speaker 1>on field tray and off field tray. Was it a

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<v Speaker 1>unique experience for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It was you know, he's he's a funny guy man

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, he talks a lot and just a character,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's that famous clip of him and I.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when a play gets blown dead that he

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<v Speaker 3>keeps rushing and then asked me to stop blocking him

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<v Speaker 3>and like screaming at me by it, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna keep moving, I'm gonna keep moving. That's

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<v Speaker 3>how football works, like, you know, so I don't stop

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<v Speaker 3>till you stop. So it's it's entertaining, but it's fun

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<v Speaker 3>to watch. I mean, he's he's a guy man, his

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<v Speaker 3>energy and passion and he's one of the guys to

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<v Speaker 3>me that that really changed this era of Cincinnati Bengal

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<v Speaker 3>history and the way they play. I mean, honestly on

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<v Speaker 3>that side of the football, the energy and passion he

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<v Speaker 3>plays with, I think that that's who they lean on now,

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<v Speaker 3>especially with some of the safeties gone with Von Bell

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<v Speaker 3>and then Jesse Bates gone. I mean, he's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>that one of those guys that it's like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna look to a veteran on this football team and

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<v Speaker 3>how we play the game of football and compete He's

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<v Speaker 3>that guy. So it's been fun to continue to watch

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<v Speaker 3>him and had a lot of fun playing with him

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<v Speaker 3>in the Super Bowl, just because I'd played him in

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<v Speaker 3>New Orleans a couple of times. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>unique when you go somewhere else and you're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>signed there to be the guy. I think your personality

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<v Speaker 3>comes out a little more. And I thought New Orleans

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even remember him speaking, And in Cincinnati he

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<v Speaker 3>was quite a character and we had a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with Andrew Whidworth. You overlapped with Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>for two years in Los Angeles. What are his biggest

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<v Speaker 1>strengths as a leader?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think just consistency and really the pulse he has on

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<v Speaker 3>his guys and his team in his locker room. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I can remember him being here and coming to me

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<v Speaker 3>and telling me that he was going to take the

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<v Speaker 3>interview opportunity. And I also remember talking to Duke, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>way before that, even about guys that I thought across

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<v Speaker 3>the league that would be possible candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was excited to hear that they were

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<v Speaker 2>going to interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach and he because he was down one of the

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<v Speaker 3>guys on that list for me, and then to hear

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<v Speaker 3>his act excitement about going there. I can remember him

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Cincinnati with me and us kind of going

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<v Speaker 3>through the city and everything else, and we had some

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<v Speaker 3>good memories of that, and then him getting the job. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>I was so excited for him. I think he's I

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<v Speaker 3>always thought he was this guy to me that like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you've ever played on a team with a really

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<v Speaker 3>good just like a quarterback or backup quarterback who just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of is the guy that you're like, Man, when

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<v Speaker 3>this dude's in the game, you just feel like we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do something because he just has that energy and

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<v Speaker 3>belief about himself and just carries himself in a way

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, like when it just comes down to competition,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to compete in a way that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have some fun and get after it and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna wing it and let it ride.

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<v Speaker 3>And he has that personality and I'm sure his players

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<v Speaker 3>feel that too, that that's who he is. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>fighter and a competer, competitor, and so I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't be more happy for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I'm really excited to see and continue to watch

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<v Speaker 2>how his coaching career goes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one player left from your last year in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why Tyler Boyd, who's had a great year

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<v Speaker 1>but unfortunately had a costly drop at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game last week. As a teammate and friend, how

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<v Speaker 1>would you approach that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Man, I mean, I think you got to remember

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<v Speaker 3>who he's been and what he's been for this franchise.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, moments are exactly that. They're small moments, and

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be forgotten in three weeks when you know they

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<v Speaker 3>have a chance to get back on this thing. If

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<v Speaker 3>they get back to winning and doing things the right way,

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<v Speaker 3>he'll continue to make plays and be exactly who he's

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<v Speaker 3>always been and.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody will remember that moment. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, look, setbacks are just great opportunities for amazing comebacks.

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<v Speaker 3>And so anytime you have those moments, I've given up sacks,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in a critical moment of a game, or

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<v Speaker 3>let a quarterback get hit, or maybe I had your

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<v Speaker 3>best snap. Guys that are wired like Tyler Boyd is man,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have something special happen because that's who he is.

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<v Speaker 3>And you watch those kind of guys play, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like having this small thing that you consider

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<v Speaker 3>a setback or a moment that they failed set up

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<v Speaker 3>for an insane run after. And so I expect nothing

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<v Speaker 3>less from him, man, because of the guy he is

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<v Speaker 3>and the competitor is with.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are last in rushing yards per game, They're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth and rushing yards per attempt. Does it matter

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<v Speaker 1>when Burrow and these receivers or do they need to

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<v Speaker 1>get more out of the running game.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you look at it up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of people always compare Joe and

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Brady and put them in those sentences of you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>these are guys that are similar, those comparisons, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think there is and there's been years where Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, especially in the Tampa years, struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>To run the football.

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<v Speaker 3>His offenses did, but they were still really productive and

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<v Speaker 3>really good football team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I still think for me, you know, and how I

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<v Speaker 3>love football, I would love to see him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>find a way to be more effective in the run game.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always said this about him. I mean that's usually

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing that I look to, and when the

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati Bengals are running the football well under Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 2>They're unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think anybody can stop them offensively if they

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<v Speaker 3>can run the football well, because when they do it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like that offense there's really no answers. And so

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<v Speaker 3>them figuring out the run game and how they can

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<v Speaker 3>run it well and and what situations and who with

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it's a big part of this offense.

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<v Speaker 3>And to me, I put that right there with his

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<v Speaker 3>ability to check the ball down and be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get yards out of that as well, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you look over time when Burrow can

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<v Speaker 3>do that, he has the kind of guys that get

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<v Speaker 3>him some yat yardage off of those checkdowns, and also

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, kind of a you know, almost like

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<v Speaker 3>a run, but it's a short version of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then throwing it. But when you see him be

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<v Speaker 3>able to do that, spread the ball around, get yat yardage,

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<v Speaker 3>and then also them run the football effectively, they're a

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<v Speaker 3>really tough offense to get off the field. And so

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<v Speaker 3>those are really the things I look to when I

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<v Speaker 3>turn on the tape and say, hey, how Cincinnati playing

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<v Speaker 3>up front and how they're playing on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the Thursday Night game every week now with Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the biggest challenge for players to participate in a

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean when I was playing, you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just one of those guys ever sided with

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<v Speaker 3>the guys who thought it was tough. I mean, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know, if you're a daily rhythm guy,

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<v Speaker 3>to where on Sunday you playing a game, and on

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<v Speaker 3>Monday you come in, you get your lift and you're

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<v Speaker 3>in really your flush or your body and everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>On Tuesday you move. I mean, you look at our week,

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday and Thursday are usually our roughest, you know, most

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<v Speaker 3>physical days, you know, in our practice schedule anyways, And

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<v Speaker 3>so even later in my career when I didn't practice

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<v Speaker 3>on Wednesdays, Thursday was still like even my career of

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams, I still practiced in every padded practice on

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday because that was our padded day. So I could

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<v Speaker 3>handle that load that day. So to me, when you said,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, man, I get into my rhythm of like

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<v Speaker 3>it's practice Thursday, I'm going in pads playing this game

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<v Speaker 3>and then get a little bit of a bye week

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<v Speaker 3>after it. Man, I was signed up for that any

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<v Speaker 3>week now, maybe that was my age and just want

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a break to go in the building.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I think to me, the biggest challenge

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<v Speaker 3>really is just, you know, do you have a process.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that you see some of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys that maybe they've always trusted their by he just

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<v Speaker 3>heals by the time the next time they play, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're not as on top of those things, take care

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<v Speaker 3>of their body day in and day out, they might

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<v Speaker 3>not enjoy these game as much. But I think if

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<v Speaker 3>you're on top of those type things, then man, you enjoy. Hey, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I get extra couple of days to let the body reset,

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<v Speaker 3>even maybe get more conditioning and different things in that

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't only get to get in between games. I've

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<v Speaker 3>always thought to me it was a positive looking at

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<v Speaker 3>this matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens defense is number one in the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>fewest points allowed, number two in yards allowed. What makes

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<v Speaker 1>this defense so formidable?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? They have been special.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, really since the addition of Rokwan Smith,

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<v Speaker 3>you've really seen this defense take that next little step.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they continue to have some guys show up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, young guys that they relied on. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's said, hey, we know these guys eventually are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be who we think they are. And you've seen

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<v Speaker 3>that in their past, Russ, You've seen it in their secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's really they're starting to become in a

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<v Speaker 3>group that has a little bit of, you know, similar

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<v Speaker 3>to what Cincinnati had.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you really saw Trey Hendrickson come in

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<v Speaker 3>and DJ Reader and then when Jesse Bates and Von

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<v Speaker 3>Bell and those guys, you almost saw different guys stepping

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<v Speaker 3>up all different levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's one of those things that's really

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<v Speaker 3>made this group tough is that you kind of can

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<v Speaker 3>see playmakers at every different level of it, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>all feeding off of Hey, we got this guy in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle named Rokwan Smith who's a tackling machine. And

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<v Speaker 3>really is that tone center that sets that this is

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<v Speaker 3>the identity and who we are and how we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>play football.

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<v Speaker 1>Final thing for Andrew Whitworth, what are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>keys for the Bengals to get out of Baltimore with

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<v Speaker 1>a victory on Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're gonna be really have to be really efficient.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this team, this team, you know, Baltimore is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna mix it up. They're gonna do some things similar

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<v Speaker 3>to a Buffalo did. Try to disguise mix it up

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of what they're doing. How they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>come after you, and they're going to force, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals to have some answer for you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not run the football, we're gonna tee off

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<v Speaker 3>on you. And so they're going to try to make

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<v Speaker 3>Joe get the ball out of his hand, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can't let that pass rush.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna chew.

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<v Speaker 3>But you look at this team Cincinnati typically under Joe

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<v Speaker 3>burrow Man, they've had a response when they've had a

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<v Speaker 3>setback and when they've had a loss, and so it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a lot of fun. And then to see

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore coming off the two. I mean, somebody was telling

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<v Speaker 3>me the other day that, you know, man, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe this happened to us. We got their game and

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<v Speaker 3>they both end up losing. I said, man, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest thing that ever happened to us. Because if

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<v Speaker 3>you know Baltimore and Cincinnati, it's gonna be an absolute

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<v Speaker 3>war come Thursday night, because both these teams do not

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<v Speaker 3>handle losing very well. So it's gonna be fun to

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<v Speaker 3>watch who comes out he gets this done, because I

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<v Speaker 3>know for Cincinnati, you're gonna have to be prepared for

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<v Speaker 3>all the things that this new offense under Lamar really brings.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different style offense than he's had in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>And then defensively they are really good, so you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to be efficient and you know, hopefully if t

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<v Speaker 3>Higgins is back, you know that'll help them. If not,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what it's gonna be. Jamar Chase is the

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<v Speaker 3>superstar and we're gonna have to prove why.

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<v Speaker 1>Wit after a Hall of Fame career, you are doing

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic job. It's a broadcaster. It's no surprise. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time and look forward to seeing you on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate so much, Sam Man, Thank you always for the time.

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of references this week to the bengals lousy

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<v Speaker 1>record in primetime games on the road. Our friend Jay Morrison,

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<v Speaker 1>who covers the Bengals for Pro Football Network, pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>this week that they've dropped fourteen in a row. Those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are accurate, but as I like to point out,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the year for JB as in Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything before that should be disregarded. Does Andy Dalton throwing

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<v Speaker 1>a pick six in a primetime road game back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen really matter now? No, but it's fair to

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<v Speaker 1>point out that the Bengals are zero to four in

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<v Speaker 1>the Borough Era in primetime road games, losing in the

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<v Speaker 1>AFC Championship Game last year at Kansas City, losing twice

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland, and losing last year in Baltimore, where Joe

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<v Speaker 1>gave them the lead with a touchdown run with one

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight to go, only to have Justin Tucker answer

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<v Speaker 1>with a game winning field goal at the gun. When

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is presented with an obstacle that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to overcome in the past, he usually takes

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<v Speaker 1>care of it. Hopefully he'll cross a primetime road win

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<v Speaker 1>off the list on Thursday night. Now time for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's one on one player interview, I caught up with

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three year old Bengals safety Michael Thomas this week.

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<v Speaker 1>The former pro bowler for his special teams excellence is

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice squad this year and hasn't been activated

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<v Speaker 1>for a game yet, but as you'll hear, he continues

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<v Speaker 1>to play an important role thanks to knowledge and leadership. Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody took the Texans lightly last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really believe that. But in every line of work,

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<v Speaker 1>some weeks you bring your a game and some weeks

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. Did you feel like things were just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit off last week?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no question. I mean, and we're not gonna make

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<v Speaker 4>any excuses.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, you turn on that tape and that's not us,

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<v Speaker 5>that's not being a football you know, across the board.

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<v Speaker 5>So you got to look at it. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think we thought it was a you know, quote

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<v Speaker 5>unquote trap game, sleeper game, or we're taking them lightly.

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<v Speaker 5>What I do think is that Texans team is probably

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<v Speaker 5>a little better than what the whole NFL probably thought.

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<v Speaker 5>And then two that we just got to play up

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<v Speaker 5>to our standards, played better. Just do our job, that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>And that wasn't the case on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So Houston had a lot of yards in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Five hundred and forty four yards, three fifty six passing,

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<v Speaker 1>one to eighty eight rushing. You want to fix everything

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<v Speaker 1>if you can, But what's the number one thing you

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<v Speaker 1>us fix?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you gotta fix the run game. You gotta fix

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<v Speaker 4>the run game.

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<v Speaker 5>Like and no level of football now Peewee High School College,

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<v Speaker 5>definitely not the NFL is giving up over one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>yards one hundred and fifty something rushing yards acceptable, Right,

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<v Speaker 5>everything starts with stopping them run. You stop the run,

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<v Speaker 5>you make that team one dimensional. You're able to get

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<v Speaker 5>more exotic with the type of calls and pressures. You're

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<v Speaker 5>dictating the game. Right when you allow them to rush

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<v Speaker 5>for over one hundred yards on hundred and fifty yards,

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<v Speaker 5>they're controlling the tembo home. So if you got to

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<v Speaker 5>fix one thing, and trust me, we heard from Lou,

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<v Speaker 5>but we heard it from ourselves as well. But we

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<v Speaker 5>heard from Lou. The one thing you gotta fix this

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<v Speaker 5>our run game. And clearly we're down, guys, But this

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<v Speaker 5>is the NFL, A lot of people down guys, So

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<v Speaker 5>whoever's in there, you got to play up to the standard.

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<v Speaker 4>There can be no drop off. We gotta fix our

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<v Speaker 4>run game.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with safety Michael Thomas. You're part of a

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<v Speaker 1>secondary room with a lot of young guys, Cam Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>Brits in his second year, Dak Shills in his second year.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got rookies.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Battle, DJ Turner, Dji who hasn't played yet but

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<v Speaker 1>will at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>What stands out to you about all these young guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I think is their resiliency and willing to learn quickly

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<v Speaker 5>because this when it is the NFL, this is not

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<v Speaker 5>the college you know what I'm saying, the college game

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<v Speaker 5>that they're just coming from, either in the second year

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<v Speaker 5>or as rookies, like you said, and we're calling on

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<v Speaker 5>them to play significant amount of time and insignificant roles.

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<v Speaker 5>So the fact that they're picking up this playbook, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know lou he you know, he was nicknamed, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the mad Scientist for a reason. He's switching it up weekend,

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<v Speaker 5>week out, and their attention to detail, coming in you know,

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<v Speaker 5>extra meetings, they're coming in early.

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<v Speaker 4>They're asking the right questions.

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 5>They're going out to practice early, staying out late, doing

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<v Speaker 5>extra drills because they it means something to them and

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<v Speaker 5>they want to be right for all the vets in

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<v Speaker 5>our rooms. So to see them and their growth week

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<v Speaker 5>in and week out, it's impressive. And again at this point,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, ten games into the NFL season or ten weeks,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you hardly can't even consider them rookies anymore,

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<v Speaker 5>especially with the snap state of played. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>proud of them, but again, young dudes gotta grow quick

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<v Speaker 5>because we're playing some some almost like playoff football.

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<v Speaker 1>From this point forward, You've grown very close as a

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<v Speaker 1>friend and mentor to Tyson Anderson. He took him under

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<v Speaker 1>your wing last year. He had him over to the

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<v Speaker 1>house for Thanksgiving dinner. He was hurt last year and

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately towards ACL a few weeks ago against San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>How is he doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And how did that one hit you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that one hit hard one because time on Tasor,

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<v Speaker 5>you just just spent so much time and invested so

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<v Speaker 5>much you know, time and energy to help this young man,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, make that transition from college to the NFL, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know what type of player he wants to be.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm doing everything in my power giving him all

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<v Speaker 5>the game and now said, I have known that eventually

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<v Speaker 5>he's going to be the one that steps in and plays,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's fine. I want to see it. So you

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<v Speaker 5>start seeing the success. Before he left, he was leading

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<v Speaker 5>the league in the NFL special teams tackles and then

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 5>to boom get hurt again for a season and you know, injury.

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<v Speaker 5>That's tough. But he's in good spirits. I know his

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<v Speaker 5>surgery went well. Uh talked to him just yesterday. You know,

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 5>keeping him up in spirits because this is a journey.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna go through a process where you know, might

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<v Speaker 5>be some dark days. But just like your rookie year,

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<v Speaker 5>you kept working, you kept grinding, knowing that at some

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 5>point you don't know when, At some point it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>pay off, and it paid off this way, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be the same thing. As a matter of fact, this

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<v Speaker 5>story is gonna be even greater because now you've proven

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<v Speaker 5>you can play at a high level in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>Goings to the special teams or defense. Let's get through

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<v Speaker 5>this injury, come back stronger.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in your twelfth NFL season.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a former pro bowler.

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<v Speaker 1>You played more than one hundred and twenty NFL games,

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<v Speaker 1>but this year you're on the practice squad and haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been elevated to the game day roster yet.

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<v Speaker 4>How have you dealt with That's.

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<v Speaker 5>An interesting question, Dan, And to be honest, my perspective

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<v Speaker 5>is different at thirty three versus that twenty two and

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three year old kid coming out of college.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's one of those things where it's like, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna prepare every day like, yo, I'm gonna be

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 5>that speed I running down on kick oven oh if

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<v Speaker 5>we you know, getting the pinch and need another dB

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<v Speaker 5>play wherever in the secondary, I'm preparing every week like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And now versus at twenty three, I understand that these

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 5>young guys well, even though I might not be able

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<v Speaker 5>to help them by being a teammate on the field,

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<v Speaker 5>I can help them with my knowledge and I can

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<v Speaker 5>see the mistakes that are made. I can see the

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<v Speaker 5>issues that they might face even before they get there,

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<v Speaker 5>and just trying to like help them ask those questions,

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<v Speaker 5>help them, you know, change their alignments, help them with

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<v Speaker 5>their technique. And for me not being elevated and playing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yet I'm still finding gratification and seeing them go out

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<v Speaker 5>and execute on something we might have worked on personally,

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<v Speaker 5>not something the coach asked us to do.

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 4>He and asked me to go.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I had these extra meetings, not something that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm trying to do so I can get

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 5>brownie points so I could get elevated. It's just out

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<v Speaker 5>of pure love for the game, because I had vets

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<v Speaker 5>mentor meet and love for these young dudes that I'm

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 5>going out there and helping them. And I see them

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 5>go out there execute that and.

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Go make a play.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the best, best feeling. The world almost closes like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm making the play. So I'm handling it well and

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 5>just knowing that, Hey, if that opportunity comes where I'm

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 5>called upon a play, I'll be ready.

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<v Speaker 4>But even if it's not, Dan, I'm good. I'm good, blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked safeties coach Robert Livingston what your willingness to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the practice squad means to the team. Here's

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>what he said, Oh, it means the world.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Mike is as special as anybody I've ever

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 6>been around. Mike could could do anything in the world.

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<v Speaker 6>He could work at Procter and Gamble. He could be

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<v Speaker 6>in the government, he could be in secret service, he

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<v Speaker 6>could do anything. And he's here with us, and he's

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<v Speaker 6>away from his family, and he's he's putting himself through

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 6>you know what a lot of other thirty three year

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 6>olds won't do for the for the good of the team.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we talk all the time about a team

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 6>mentality and what does that look like. That looks like

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 6>Mike Thomas. So he's a special, special guy. I think

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 6>the world of him. I do anything in the world

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<v Speaker 6>for him. You know, He's made me a better person,

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<v Speaker 6>a better coach, and just really grateful to have him.

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<v Speaker 1>What do those words mean to you and what do

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you think your impact is?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, Dan, I try to be tough,

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 5>but I get emotions sometimes, so I will not get

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 5>choked up right here. But Rob's a great man and

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 5>been a great mentor. And it's for the secondary for

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 5>the past three years since I've been here. And I

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 5>appreciate those words by you. Rob means more than you know,

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<v Speaker 5>especially right now. But for me, hearing those things of

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 5>what other people's perspective of me and how they see

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 5>me think of me Man. I mean, I don't do

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 5>any of this for that, Dan, but you know it,

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 5>like anybody else, it feels good to hear those things.

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 5>But for me, Man, just being the best teammate, best

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 5>person every single day when I walk through those doors,

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 5>that's just me and I'm gonna continue to do that

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<v Speaker 5>regardless of what my role is. Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of Baltimore specific questions. Now, this game was

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>already going to be important, but after last week, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your feelings about this matchup now?

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like you said, it's the visual game, almost

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 5>rivalry feeling game, right, regardless of what the circumstance is.

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 5>But now that you add five and four, that's the reality.

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 5>We can't hide from that, right, five and four? And

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 5>then you look across the AFC. Everyone's kind of sitting

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 5>right there. You know, everybody's within range, like maybe two

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 5>games out, three games out the best. You don't want

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 5>to say must win, but the sense of urgency needs

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 5>to be high, right, and you can feel it. And

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 5>it's a short week, so you're battling that, right, You're

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 5>battling you know, injuries. Now you're going to face a

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 5>tough Baltimore team that before this week, you know, taking

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 5>that loss to Cleveland, they were on the road, so

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 5>we were hitting that stride. We're dealing with a lot.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 5>We're both coming off tough losses. We're both coming, i mean,

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 5>going into a short week on Thursday night football. So

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 5>the challenge is there in itself with all those elements,

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 5>but I think understanding the landscapes the AFC and the

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 5>goals of us trying to make it to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>Win a division, make it to the playoffs. This is

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 5>a must win. And I think the cyst, the urgency

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 5>in this locker run by every single player, by every

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 5>single coach. I mean it's felt, but it's not a

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 5>nervous energy. It's just it's time. Does this rivalry feel different,

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 5>Oh definitely. I Mean, like I said, I it was

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 5>fortunate enough to play, you know, for a couple of

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 5>different teams in the NFL, a couple different divisions, and.

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 4>They don't really have.

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<v Speaker 5>That college feel, you know, like, yo, yeah, that's our rivalry,

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, that's the team we got to beat in

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 5>the division. But it's not that much emotion invested with here.

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.479
<v Speaker 5>You can see it with the fans, you just feeling

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 5>you see them all throughout the week talking about it,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 5>wearing orange around. You know what I'm saying. The stadium

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 5>just just in Cincinnati. We know when we go over

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 5>to that stadium, it's gonna be a hostile environment. I've

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 5>never felt that in NFL until I played here. Going

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 5>to one of those stadiums, it's gonna be electric. It's

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 5>Thursday night football, so we're excited. There's a lot of energy.

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 5>That's all were talking about braining the energy this week.

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 5>So this rivalry, it was already tense and heated the

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 5>two games back to back last year. I remember that

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 5>like the back of you know what I'm saying, like

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 5>it was yesterday. Oh man, So it's gonna it's gonna

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 5>be sparts, gonna be flying. I'm trying to trying to

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 5>keep it right now, Davids, this boy's gonna be flying.

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be heated as Thursday night football.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with Rob Livingston. I'm grateful you're on this team.

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Always appreciate your time. Best of luck this week from

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much.

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are currently a four point underdog for Thursday's

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<v Speaker 1>game as they look to boost their chances of winning

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC North for the third year in a row.

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