1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,577 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app 3 00:00:17,857 --> 00:00:20,977 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to 4 00:00:21,017 --> 00:00:23,857 Speaker 1: another episode of the Buck Sexton Show. I'm here in 5 00:00:23,937 --> 00:00:28,457 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt with my good friend mister Ryan Grdusky. 6 00:00:28,537 --> 00:00:32,657 Speaker 1: The National Populist Newsletter is his work these days over 7 00:00:32,697 --> 00:00:35,337 Speaker 1: at sub Stack. You should subscribe. You should check it out. 8 00:00:35,377 --> 00:00:37,457 Speaker 1: He is excellent. It is well worth your time and 9 00:00:38,977 --> 00:00:42,497 Speaker 1: your subscription. And also he's got some books and other 10 00:00:42,497 --> 00:00:45,097 Speaker 1: cool things he can tell us about. But mister Gurdusky, 11 00:00:45,737 --> 00:00:49,697 Speaker 1: how are you, buddy good? How's it going? I'm pretty good. 12 00:00:49,737 --> 00:00:53,337 Speaker 1: So how are you feeling about the state of Republican 13 00:00:53,417 --> 00:00:58,297 Speaker 1: politics these days? How's it good? One broad question? Um, 14 00:00:59,297 --> 00:01:03,097 Speaker 1: I mean, I think overall you're we're at this very 15 00:01:03,177 --> 00:01:07,577 Speaker 1: weird precipis where we have a lot of older people 16 00:01:08,017 --> 00:01:10,417 Speaker 1: in the party or a lot of older thoughts party, 17 00:01:10,417 --> 00:01:14,497 Speaker 1: and we have a new right emerging that's trying to 18 00:01:14,537 --> 00:01:18,297 Speaker 1: make peace with I think the fact that the party 19 00:01:18,457 --> 00:01:21,257 Speaker 1: has changed a lot in the last twenty five years 20 00:01:21,257 --> 00:01:25,857 Speaker 1: in the sense of where our bases. You know, we 21 00:01:25,897 --> 00:01:28,937 Speaker 1: would always count on suburban, usually white voters on issues 22 00:01:28,977 --> 00:01:33,377 Speaker 1: like crime and the economy as the bread and butter 23 00:01:33,417 --> 00:01:36,057 Speaker 1: of the party that gets us elected. That base has 24 00:01:36,137 --> 00:01:40,177 Speaker 1: moved substantially. It's now more working class, it's slightly more 25 00:01:40,257 --> 00:01:44,137 Speaker 1: ethnically diverse than it used to be. And that change 26 00:01:44,297 --> 00:01:48,337 Speaker 1: in our electorate requires a change in policy that is 27 00:01:48,417 --> 00:01:52,257 Speaker 1: uncomfortable for people who are kind of born in bread 28 00:01:52,297 --> 00:01:55,417 Speaker 1: in the Reagan era. And there are some politicians who 29 00:01:55,457 --> 00:01:57,857 Speaker 1: are still trying to get it and trying to figure 30 00:01:57,897 --> 00:02:00,457 Speaker 1: out a way forward with it, and are still uncomfortable 31 00:02:01,217 --> 00:02:06,057 Speaker 1: with things like spending on things like infrastructure, or trying 32 00:02:06,057 --> 00:02:08,377 Speaker 1: to change the way the trade works in the economy, 33 00:02:09,417 --> 00:02:12,737 Speaker 1: or our horse to extremely hawkish on foreign events. I mean, 34 00:02:12,737 --> 00:02:15,137 Speaker 1: we still talk some politicians still talk about Russia as 35 00:02:15,177 --> 00:02:18,377 Speaker 1: if it was the Soviet Union and not as it is, 36 00:02:18,417 --> 00:02:20,817 Speaker 1: which is a second rate country that can't even take 37 00:02:20,857 --> 00:02:24,617 Speaker 1: over Ukraine. And I think that that is really kind 38 00:02:24,617 --> 00:02:27,457 Speaker 1: of the precepis of where do we go. I think 39 00:02:27,537 --> 00:02:32,017 Speaker 1: on things like immigration and on other parts of the 40 00:02:32,057 --> 00:02:38,017 Speaker 1: Trump coalition, the party has changed substantially. Certainly on education, 41 00:02:38,097 --> 00:02:42,137 Speaker 1: we've moved considerably. When the governor of Utah, one most 42 00:02:42,337 --> 00:02:45,377 Speaker 1: liberal Republicans in the country, who has his pronouns and 43 00:02:45,377 --> 00:02:49,097 Speaker 1: his Twitter bio is banning transgender surgery for minors. You 44 00:02:49,137 --> 00:02:51,817 Speaker 1: can see the party has substantially changed on some things. 45 00:02:52,257 --> 00:02:54,977 Speaker 1: But I think those are the two bigger questions that 46 00:02:55,057 --> 00:02:59,417 Speaker 1: go forward into the upcoming presidential election. The presidential election 47 00:02:59,457 --> 00:03:03,977 Speaker 1: really becomes the decision maker for where the party is moving, 48 00:03:03,977 --> 00:03:06,977 Speaker 1: So we'll see where it's going in the next year. Really, 49 00:03:06,977 --> 00:03:12,057 Speaker 1: how do Republicans mean enough of the white working class 50 00:03:12,137 --> 00:03:15,097 Speaker 1: vote in the next election that they actually win the 51 00:03:15,137 --> 00:03:20,497 Speaker 1: presidential election. Well, I think they have to do a 52 00:03:20,497 --> 00:03:23,617 Speaker 1: couple of really hard lessons. I think one is on healthcare. 53 00:03:24,137 --> 00:03:26,617 Speaker 1: We just don't have an answer on healthcare, and it 54 00:03:26,737 --> 00:03:31,697 Speaker 1: is our biggest, biggest, biggest black hole as a policy thing. 55 00:03:31,737 --> 00:03:34,137 Speaker 1: It is the number one issue for over the number 56 00:03:34,177 --> 00:03:37,097 Speaker 1: two issue in our spar for independent voters. It's a 57 00:03:37,257 --> 00:03:42,057 Speaker 1: huge issue for working class voters, white especially who just 58 00:03:42,217 --> 00:03:45,297 Speaker 1: can't afford the way the healthcare is run, and they 59 00:03:45,417 --> 00:03:49,417 Speaker 1: don't trust the upheaval that would come with the promise 60 00:03:49,457 --> 00:03:54,537 Speaker 1: of a simple theory market system that does not promote conference. 61 00:03:54,577 --> 00:03:56,857 Speaker 1: People don't like that immense amount of change. Why they 62 00:03:56,897 --> 00:04:00,297 Speaker 1: didn't like Obamacare, but now that Obamacare has been the 63 00:04:00,377 --> 00:04:03,417 Speaker 1: law of the land for a decade, and is you know, 64 00:04:03,617 --> 00:04:07,337 Speaker 1: the de facto way we do healthcare. Any promise of 65 00:04:07,417 --> 00:04:12,617 Speaker 1: upheaval and uncertain he is going to read discomfort. So 66 00:04:12,697 --> 00:04:16,217 Speaker 1: I think that that's a major, major, major question. I 67 00:04:16,217 --> 00:04:18,297 Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason that Donald Trump won 68 00:04:18,537 --> 00:04:20,497 Speaker 1: so many of their confidences, that he said I'm going 69 00:04:20,537 --> 00:04:21,857 Speaker 1: to take care of everybody. No, he didn't have a 70 00:04:21,897 --> 00:04:24,657 Speaker 1: policy solution for it, but he didn't sit there and 71 00:04:24,697 --> 00:04:26,697 Speaker 1: say we'll just make the market take care of everything. 72 00:04:26,817 --> 00:04:30,617 Speaker 1: That kind of answer appeal to somebody who lives credit 73 00:04:30,617 --> 00:04:35,097 Speaker 1: card through credit cards, you know, paycheck paycheck, and I 74 00:04:35,137 --> 00:04:36,897 Speaker 1: can I ask you something By the way, I know, 75 00:04:36,937 --> 00:04:38,777 Speaker 1: I want to get back to the policy part of this, Ryan, 76 00:04:38,857 --> 00:04:43,897 Speaker 1: but the your your perception, I'll just share my perception 77 00:04:44,177 --> 00:04:47,777 Speaker 1: of when people thought about healthcare. I always think that 78 00:04:47,777 --> 00:04:50,337 Speaker 1: that there's a there's a sloppiness in the way that 79 00:04:50,377 --> 00:04:53,057 Speaker 1: it's discussed. You know, people say, oh, I want healthcare. 80 00:04:53,137 --> 00:04:56,417 Speaker 1: What they really want is some kind of a program, 81 00:04:56,537 --> 00:05:00,217 Speaker 1: usually a card that they're given that promises some degree 82 00:05:00,577 --> 00:05:05,497 Speaker 1: of subsidized access to actual healthcare providers. Right, But there's 83 00:05:05,577 --> 00:05:08,017 Speaker 1: the whole system in place It's not just like, well 84 00:05:08,017 --> 00:05:10,617 Speaker 1: I get healthcare now, it's like, well, you make appointment 85 00:05:10,617 --> 00:05:11,897 Speaker 1: to see a doctor, I have to go to the doctor. 86 00:05:11,937 --> 00:05:13,057 Speaker 1: If to get it paid for, you have to get 87 00:05:13,097 --> 00:05:17,217 Speaker 1: the insurance. You know. I actually believe from what I see, 88 00:05:17,297 --> 00:05:22,097 Speaker 1: and I increasingly try to step away from the big 89 00:05:22,137 --> 00:05:24,577 Speaker 1: healthcare modelists as much as much as I can afford 90 00:05:24,617 --> 00:05:27,777 Speaker 1: to as much as I can, that healthcare as it 91 00:05:27,857 --> 00:05:31,377 Speaker 1: is actually delivered to people is constantly getting worse. That's 92 00:05:31,457 --> 00:05:33,337 Speaker 1: that's my perception. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I just 93 00:05:33,377 --> 00:05:36,937 Speaker 1: feel like, go ahead, Yeah, there's three prongs to it. 94 00:05:36,977 --> 00:05:40,657 Speaker 1: There's actual health of people in this country, and we 95 00:05:40,697 --> 00:05:46,617 Speaker 1: are a remarkably unhealthy nation. We are too fat. I 96 00:05:46,657 --> 00:05:49,657 Speaker 1: scream constantly. We're too effing fat as a country. It 97 00:05:49,817 --> 00:05:55,657 Speaker 1: is extraordinarily problematic. It is why the less the Left's 98 00:05:55,777 --> 00:05:59,617 Speaker 1: push to make fat being fat a positive attribute is 99 00:05:59,857 --> 00:06:04,617 Speaker 1: so so incredibly problematic. I think our obesity is part 100 00:06:04,617 --> 00:06:07,817 Speaker 1: of the reason why our healthcare is so incredibly expensive. 101 00:06:08,857 --> 00:06:13,737 Speaker 1: The fattest, the thinnest state today, Colorado, is fatter than 102 00:06:13,777 --> 00:06:16,857 Speaker 1: the fattest state in the country was in nineteen ninety, 103 00:06:16,857 --> 00:06:19,817 Speaker 1: which was Mississippi. That is how fat we are we 104 00:06:19,897 --> 00:06:22,497 Speaker 1: have moved the trajectory so much where our thinnest state 105 00:06:22,577 --> 00:06:25,817 Speaker 1: is fatter than our fattest state was in nineteen ninety. 106 00:06:26,497 --> 00:06:30,257 Speaker 1: So it is health health. Part of healthcare is living healthy. 107 00:06:30,577 --> 00:06:34,337 Speaker 1: Secondly as access to a doctor, which is in some 108 00:06:34,377 --> 00:06:38,177 Speaker 1: parts of the country horrendous. In rural communities it is abysmal. 109 00:06:38,617 --> 00:06:40,657 Speaker 1: And then the third of it is the cost. And 110 00:06:40,697 --> 00:06:44,657 Speaker 1: I think the cost part of it is not so much. 111 00:06:46,857 --> 00:06:49,577 Speaker 1: What you said is access to healthcare is very problematic. 112 00:06:49,657 --> 00:06:53,297 Speaker 1: But what people don't like is the idea of a 113 00:06:53,337 --> 00:06:58,737 Speaker 1: single mother getting cancer at forty years old and never 114 00:06:58,817 --> 00:07:01,937 Speaker 1: being able to recover economically from that. And those are 115 00:07:01,977 --> 00:07:05,777 Speaker 1: the three and so when Bernie Sanders speaks to voters, 116 00:07:05,857 --> 00:07:09,817 Speaker 1: he speaks about those people who need catastrophic care in 117 00:07:09,817 --> 00:07:14,937 Speaker 1: those extreme circumstances. There are multi prong issues that are 118 00:07:14,977 --> 00:07:18,537 Speaker 1: problematic with our healthcare system that really need to be 119 00:07:18,577 --> 00:07:22,017 Speaker 1: answered if we had You know, there are other countries 120 00:07:22,057 --> 00:07:23,497 Speaker 1: in the world that smoke a lot more than us. 121 00:07:23,617 --> 00:07:25,377 Speaker 1: There's all other countries in the world that you know, 122 00:07:26,417 --> 00:07:29,097 Speaker 1: eat a lot more. You know, eat probably as much 123 00:07:29,097 --> 00:07:32,777 Speaker 1: food as we do, a different type of food, that 124 00:07:33,177 --> 00:07:35,657 Speaker 1: are much thinner and live longer and we are now 125 00:07:35,697 --> 00:07:37,777 Speaker 1: and I think, what year three or year four of 126 00:07:37,897 --> 00:07:43,217 Speaker 1: life expectancy continually declining for almost every demographic in this country. 127 00:07:43,257 --> 00:07:46,897 Speaker 1: There's a single demographic I think maybe Asians, but probably 128 00:07:46,897 --> 00:07:50,017 Speaker 1: not either, that have seen their life expectancy grow over 129 00:07:50,057 --> 00:07:52,937 Speaker 1: the last five years. And you know, and then there's 130 00:07:52,977 --> 00:07:56,057 Speaker 1: other abuse and deaths of despair and whatnot. But those 131 00:07:56,097 --> 00:08:01,497 Speaker 1: are the three big things. Access, healthy living and and 132 00:08:01,537 --> 00:08:05,177 Speaker 1: then the cost of healthcare. And I don't think that, 133 00:08:05,457 --> 00:08:07,857 Speaker 1: and I think that the problem is is that the 134 00:08:07,977 --> 00:08:11,977 Speaker 1: healthy living is the problems that a lot of people have, 135 00:08:12,137 --> 00:08:16,817 Speaker 1: is that require sacrifice. It requires you not going to 136 00:08:16,937 --> 00:08:19,057 Speaker 1: get uber ets at three o'clock in the morning when 137 00:08:19,057 --> 00:08:22,417 Speaker 1: you don't want to or you know, and probably not 138 00:08:22,537 --> 00:08:26,457 Speaker 1: having a federal government that doles out money for fatty 139 00:08:26,537 --> 00:08:30,577 Speaker 1: meats and terrible grains and seed oils and whatnot. And 140 00:08:30,617 --> 00:08:32,737 Speaker 1: then the other part of it is access to finding 141 00:08:32,777 --> 00:08:36,097 Speaker 1: a doctor, and then the costs of you know, car 142 00:08:36,097 --> 00:08:38,977 Speaker 1: incidents and king But so here's where here's where I 143 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:41,217 Speaker 1: see a big problem in the medical system right now. 144 00:08:41,257 --> 00:08:43,857 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I believe that because of 145 00:08:43,897 --> 00:08:48,977 Speaker 1: COVID and not just some of the some of the 146 00:08:49,017 --> 00:08:51,817 Speaker 1: most egregious things, like the way the medical community. I 147 00:08:51,817 --> 00:08:53,977 Speaker 1: know it's not every doctor, so please, I don't need 148 00:08:53,977 --> 00:08:55,777 Speaker 1: the I don't need doctors who are like I wasn't 149 00:08:55,817 --> 00:08:58,577 Speaker 1: with this, I know, but the overall medical system in 150 00:08:58,577 --> 00:09:02,457 Speaker 1: this country, every major hospital system, the CDC, the NIH 151 00:09:02,577 --> 00:09:08,457 Speaker 1: right all the hospital the medical bureaucracy were basically vaccine fascists. 152 00:09:08,457 --> 00:09:11,097 Speaker 1: I mean they completely lost their minds. But also on 153 00:09:11,137 --> 00:09:13,657 Speaker 1: the issue of even mandatory masking, which still goes on 154 00:09:13,817 --> 00:09:16,297 Speaker 1: in medical facilities in places like New York to this day, 155 00:09:17,177 --> 00:09:20,217 Speaker 1: I think they've lost a lot of They've lost a 156 00:09:20,257 --> 00:09:22,177 Speaker 1: lot of credibility with people who are capable of thinking 157 00:09:22,217 --> 00:09:25,337 Speaker 1: for themselves and caring about results and reality instead of 158 00:09:25,377 --> 00:09:28,257 Speaker 1: what they're told to care about. But I also think 159 00:09:28,297 --> 00:09:31,137 Speaker 1: that there's been this growing problem for a while that 160 00:09:31,257 --> 00:09:37,177 Speaker 1: because healthcare has become so bureaucratic and systematized by an 161 00:09:37,257 --> 00:09:42,897 Speaker 1: unwieldy and political and very politically driven system, that you 162 00:09:42,937 --> 00:09:44,377 Speaker 1: now have a lot of people don't want to go 163 00:09:44,377 --> 00:09:46,097 Speaker 1: into medicine. Who are the people you want to go 164 00:09:46,097 --> 00:09:48,457 Speaker 1: into medicine? And I don't think people talk about this 165 00:09:48,537 --> 00:09:51,377 Speaker 1: very much, but any doctor that I know personally will say, 166 00:09:51,897 --> 00:09:53,737 Speaker 1: given what I'm dealing with now, And maybe they're at 167 00:09:53,777 --> 00:09:55,497 Speaker 1: the end of their career, you know, or they their 168 00:09:56,257 --> 00:10:01,097 Speaker 1: mid to late career. Doctors are saying the amount of paper, bureaucracy, 169 00:10:02,017 --> 00:10:05,297 Speaker 1: threat of lawsuits, all this stuff just makes it so 170 00:10:05,377 --> 00:10:09,857 Speaker 1: that it's certainly no longer a pathway to financial security 171 00:10:09,857 --> 00:10:11,897 Speaker 1: for lot of people. You know, being a GP is 172 00:10:11,937 --> 00:10:14,457 Speaker 1: not you know, then the notion of like the doctor 173 00:10:14,457 --> 00:10:16,497 Speaker 1: who drives the BMW and lives in the big house 174 00:10:16,537 --> 00:10:19,017 Speaker 1: and goes to country club, that's not reality anymore. But 175 00:10:19,057 --> 00:10:20,417 Speaker 1: it's a lot worse than that. I think that there 176 00:10:20,457 --> 00:10:23,657 Speaker 1: are a lot of doctors who are who are saddled 177 00:10:23,697 --> 00:10:26,297 Speaker 1: with so much debt that they lead kind of miserable 178 00:10:26,337 --> 00:10:29,057 Speaker 1: lives into their fifties. And you're like, I don't know 179 00:10:29,097 --> 00:10:31,377 Speaker 1: if I want to mortgage my twenties, thirties and forties 180 00:10:31,737 --> 00:10:33,897 Speaker 1: so that one day I can do healing work and 181 00:10:34,097 --> 00:10:37,417 Speaker 1: actually make a good living. Yeah, GP will make a 182 00:10:37,417 --> 00:10:40,137 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars with a million dollars a debt 183 00:10:40,177 --> 00:10:43,057 Speaker 1: and a million dollars on legal coverage on top of 184 00:10:43,057 --> 00:10:45,897 Speaker 1: it per year, which is extremely expensive. But there's a 185 00:10:45,937 --> 00:10:49,617 Speaker 1: lot of money to be made in medicine in selling 186 00:10:49,617 --> 00:10:53,657 Speaker 1: a pill and not in eating some broccoli. And that's 187 00:10:53,737 --> 00:10:57,777 Speaker 1: ultimately the biggest problem. And when major corporations are given 188 00:10:57,897 --> 00:11:02,297 Speaker 1: both food corporations and pharmaceutic corporations are given money constantly 189 00:11:02,297 --> 00:11:05,617 Speaker 1: by the federal government to push it out, then that 190 00:11:05,857 --> 00:11:08,097 Speaker 1: is where the problems grow. And for all those people 191 00:11:08,097 --> 00:11:14,217 Speaker 1: who have huge concern about, you know, about getting a shot, 192 00:11:14,257 --> 00:11:17,457 Speaker 1: I completely understand why their concerns would be there, and 193 00:11:18,177 --> 00:11:21,937 Speaker 1: some of them are probably valid, but they are oftentimes 194 00:11:21,937 --> 00:11:24,497 Speaker 1: in some of the fattest counties in this country. Don't 195 00:11:24,537 --> 00:11:26,057 Speaker 1: sit there and say to me, I care about a 196 00:11:26,057 --> 00:11:29,417 Speaker 1: healthy lifestyle when you weigh three hundred pounds. It is 197 00:11:29,497 --> 00:11:32,577 Speaker 1: not it is you know. The problem with a lot 198 00:11:32,577 --> 00:11:34,817 Speaker 1: of conservatives, I always say, is that they'll sit there 199 00:11:34,817 --> 00:11:41,057 Speaker 1: and say, I love you know, beautiful European architecturally designed cities, 200 00:11:41,097 --> 00:11:42,817 Speaker 1: and then they live in a suburb with a cookie 201 00:11:42,817 --> 00:11:45,137 Speaker 1: cutter house on a road that has fifteen lane seats 202 00:11:45,137 --> 00:11:47,457 Speaker 1: to the New York Walmart. They'll sit there and say, 203 00:11:47,497 --> 00:11:49,217 Speaker 1: I care all out my healthcare, so I won't get 204 00:11:49,217 --> 00:11:52,057 Speaker 1: a vaccine, but I eat garbage food and I live 205 00:11:52,097 --> 00:11:54,577 Speaker 1: a garbage lifestyle. And you know I was signed this 206 00:11:54,617 --> 00:11:56,337 Speaker 1: to someone who was running for governor of Texas. I 207 00:11:56,377 --> 00:11:58,457 Speaker 1: won't say his name, but remember governor of Texas. And 208 00:11:58,697 --> 00:12:01,017 Speaker 1: we had a conversation. I said, people live in East 209 00:12:01,057 --> 00:12:05,457 Speaker 1: Texas and West Texas, Republican voters live a decade shorter 210 00:12:05,657 --> 00:12:08,737 Speaker 1: than people who live in Austin and Dallas, the Democratic voters. 211 00:12:09,097 --> 00:12:13,777 Speaker 1: You lose your own voters three election cycles earlier, simply 212 00:12:13,937 --> 00:12:17,857 Speaker 1: because of our healthcare system. Now it's not just that. 213 00:12:17,897 --> 00:12:20,177 Speaker 1: I mean, there is drugs, are their cigarette smoking, there's 214 00:12:20,177 --> 00:12:23,657 Speaker 1: lifestyle habits, but all of those things are giant factors. 215 00:12:24,137 --> 00:12:27,817 Speaker 1: And when you look at the enormous drop in life 216 00:12:27,817 --> 00:12:32,057 Speaker 1: expectancy for working class people, living credit carbon credit on 217 00:12:32,137 --> 00:12:35,497 Speaker 1: healthcare is a big, big, big issue that the Republicans 218 00:12:35,577 --> 00:12:39,017 Speaker 1: so far will not even venture in. And I think, 219 00:12:39,097 --> 00:12:41,897 Speaker 1: to their own I think, I think it's their own problem. 220 00:12:41,897 --> 00:12:43,657 Speaker 1: And I don't have a healthcare solution. I'm not a 221 00:12:43,697 --> 00:12:46,537 Speaker 1: policy wonk, but I think that the answer of oh, 222 00:12:46,537 --> 00:12:48,057 Speaker 1: the free market will just take care of it if 223 00:12:48,057 --> 00:12:50,897 Speaker 1: we just give it a chance. Maybe that's true, but 224 00:12:50,937 --> 00:12:53,377 Speaker 1: the uncertainty that comes with that is so uncomfortable for 225 00:12:53,497 --> 00:12:57,417 Speaker 1: most average Joe people who don't understand a lot of 226 00:12:57,457 --> 00:13:00,857 Speaker 1: policy situations that it is to our detriment that we 227 00:13:00,897 --> 00:13:02,977 Speaker 1: don't have a more nuance solution. And look, you and 228 00:13:03,017 --> 00:13:05,297 Speaker 1: I in the last five minutes, I've probably talked more 229 00:13:05,297 --> 00:13:08,057 Speaker 1: about it than any Republican on a major platform has 230 00:13:08,097 --> 00:13:11,457 Speaker 1: in the last five years. Well, this is my concern 231 00:13:11,657 --> 00:13:15,497 Speaker 1: from an electoral perspective. Also is looking back at twenty eighteen, 232 00:13:16,017 --> 00:13:18,777 Speaker 1: which was the delayed Blue wave. Remember election night, it 233 00:13:18,857 --> 00:13:20,937 Speaker 1: was like ah and then it actually no, they the 234 00:13:20,977 --> 00:13:23,817 Speaker 1: Democrats picked up a lot of seats. It was a 235 00:13:23,937 --> 00:13:26,537 Speaker 1: very strong Now they didn't win the Senate, it was 236 00:13:26,577 --> 00:13:30,617 Speaker 1: a very strong House election for Democrats, and overwhelmingly from 237 00:13:30,657 --> 00:13:33,537 Speaker 1: what I remember, it was healthcare was actually the issue 238 00:13:34,017 --> 00:13:37,337 Speaker 1: that was a huge problem for Republicans in swing states 239 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:40,817 Speaker 1: or swing districts. Why didn't they go Why didnt they 240 00:13:40,817 --> 00:13:43,057 Speaker 1: go to the Republican? They with the Democrat because there 241 00:13:43,137 --> 00:13:45,337 Speaker 1: was this you know, Trump was still talking about repealing 242 00:13:45,337 --> 00:13:48,377 Speaker 1: Obamacare and there was a big fight then over healthcare. 243 00:13:48,497 --> 00:13:51,137 Speaker 1: And I worry that in remember that was when you 244 00:13:51,137 --> 00:13:53,417 Speaker 1: know McCain and a skinny repeal and all that stuff 245 00:13:53,537 --> 00:13:56,937 Speaker 1: was going on. I worry that Republicans could be walking 246 00:13:56,977 --> 00:13:59,857 Speaker 1: into a situation they're not prepared for at all, where 247 00:13:59,857 --> 00:14:02,697 Speaker 1: the Democrats just get to pound the healthcare drum and 248 00:14:02,777 --> 00:14:06,537 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there you know, the Biden term 249 00:14:06,577 --> 00:14:08,257 Speaker 1: two is looking like a pretty sure. I want to 250 00:14:08,257 --> 00:14:09,777 Speaker 1: ask you about that though, in a second, so let 251 00:14:09,857 --> 00:14:12,497 Speaker 1: me get that. Wait, hold on, hold on. We have sponsors. 252 00:14:12,537 --> 00:14:13,937 Speaker 1: We have sponsors that I have to talk about for 253 00:14:13,937 --> 00:14:16,297 Speaker 1: a second. Give me one second, yes, sir, the sponsors, 254 00:14:16,297 --> 00:14:19,457 Speaker 1: mister Gurduski. 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Now back to our friend, mister Ryan Grodski. 280 00:15:33,897 --> 00:15:36,617 Speaker 1: You should subscribe to a substackt the National Populace newsletters, 281 00:15:36,697 --> 00:15:40,377 Speaker 1: very informative on politics and a range of issues. All right, Buddy, 282 00:15:41,297 --> 00:15:48,097 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, definitely the Democrat nominee, probably or not so much. Definitely. 283 00:15:48,377 --> 00:15:51,697 Speaker 1: I don't see so the Democrats recently as they were 284 00:15:51,777 --> 00:15:56,257 Speaker 1: changing their electoral process in the primary, so South Carolina 285 00:15:56,217 --> 00:15:59,337 Speaker 1: because it was too white, Iowa, New Hampshire. So that's 286 00:15:59,377 --> 00:16:03,537 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Then I forget Iowa somewhere along. But oh no, 287 00:16:03,617 --> 00:16:07,937 Speaker 1: I was way back in South Carolina, Georgia, Nevada, and 288 00:16:08,017 --> 00:16:09,897 Speaker 1: I think some one other state. And that is per 289 00:16:10,137 --> 00:16:14,057 Speaker 1: basfully created in such a way that the Democratic Party 290 00:16:14,137 --> 00:16:18,017 Speaker 1: is going to lock out the Bernie bro far left 291 00:16:18,177 --> 00:16:22,217 Speaker 1: grouping for the This stays for the first stable future. 292 00:16:22,217 --> 00:16:25,177 Speaker 1: There will not be a progressive nominee. And this absolutely 293 00:16:25,217 --> 00:16:31,937 Speaker 1: protects Biden because the number one contributor to electing a 294 00:16:31,977 --> 00:16:36,097 Speaker 1: Democrat nominee for president is black, especially older Black women 295 00:16:36,297 --> 00:16:40,737 Speaker 1: in the Deep South. That every Democrat nominee relies on 296 00:16:40,777 --> 00:16:45,937 Speaker 1: that voting block for delegates, whether it be Hillary Obama, Biden, Clinton, 297 00:16:46,577 --> 00:16:50,057 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, everyone besides John Kerry, who wrapped up the 298 00:16:50,137 --> 00:16:55,097 Speaker 1: nomination before Super Tuesday, has always relied on the black 299 00:16:55,137 --> 00:16:58,897 Speaker 1: Southern boat, especially if older Black women who are not progressive, 300 00:16:58,937 --> 00:17:02,257 Speaker 1: they don't like somebody like pe Buddha Jedge. I don't 301 00:17:02,257 --> 00:17:03,857 Speaker 1: know if they would even warm up to somebody like 302 00:17:03,897 --> 00:17:07,297 Speaker 1: Gavenusom though maybe, but that isn't That is the elector 303 00:17:07,337 --> 00:17:10,697 Speaker 1: that will controls the nomination process the Democratic Party and 304 00:17:10,777 --> 00:17:13,857 Speaker 1: they love Joe Biden, and Joe Biden has secured there's 305 00:17:13,897 --> 00:17:15,457 Speaker 1: no one who's going to replace him. They'd have to 306 00:17:15,537 --> 00:17:18,337 Speaker 1: lose like the first or seven states and have a 307 00:17:18,417 --> 00:17:21,457 Speaker 1: real comeback attempt in a way we have never seen. 308 00:17:21,537 --> 00:17:23,737 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't foresee it any other way. 309 00:17:23,857 --> 00:17:27,617 Speaker 1: Joe Biden unless something happens, like he dies, he is 310 00:17:27,657 --> 00:17:33,737 Speaker 1: going to one the nominee. And Kamala Harris is somebody 311 00:17:33,777 --> 00:17:37,377 Speaker 1: who do you think could not be by the Democrat 312 00:17:37,417 --> 00:17:41,457 Speaker 1: Party pushed aside either as vice president or right a 313 00:17:41,537 --> 00:17:44,457 Speaker 1: situation where you're going to have Biden if Biden says 314 00:17:44,457 --> 00:17:47,497 Speaker 1: he's not going to run, or if Biden says he 315 00:17:47,657 --> 00:17:50,657 Speaker 1: is going to run and he's gonna he's gonna have 316 00:17:50,697 --> 00:17:52,817 Speaker 1: a different vice president on the ticket. Though, are either 317 00:17:52,897 --> 00:17:55,817 Speaker 1: of those situations that you think the Democrat Party could 318 00:17:55,897 --> 00:18:01,657 Speaker 1: manage and to bide aside. He's not gonna push Kamala aside. 319 00:18:01,697 --> 00:18:04,377 Speaker 1: You're not going to see the white male president push 320 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:07,257 Speaker 1: a black female, the first black female vice president, to 321 00:18:07,297 --> 00:18:10,177 Speaker 1: the side. It will never ever, ever happen. There was 322 00:18:10,217 --> 00:18:14,057 Speaker 1: an interesting Twitter threat I read recently about the number 323 00:18:14,097 --> 00:18:17,857 Speaker 1: of federal judges and cabinet members Biden has selected, and 324 00:18:17,897 --> 00:18:21,297 Speaker 1: I think something like only five percent of all federal 325 00:18:21,377 --> 00:18:24,297 Speaker 1: judges and he's broken records and federal judges are white 326 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:28,137 Speaker 1: men and like an enormous percentage versus the whole population 327 00:18:28,217 --> 00:18:32,977 Speaker 1: or black women. He is specifically tried to appeal to 328 00:18:33,017 --> 00:18:35,697 Speaker 1: that base over and over and over and over again 329 00:18:35,737 --> 00:18:39,217 Speaker 1: in every possible way that he can, including pushing discrimination 330 00:18:39,337 --> 00:18:42,777 Speaker 1: laws against white people, went the farmers, with farmers getting 331 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:47,177 Speaker 1: their money from the federal government and aid with COVID relief. 332 00:18:47,217 --> 00:18:50,297 Speaker 1: A lot of governors were pushing where black women especially 333 00:18:50,297 --> 00:18:54,857 Speaker 1: got the first shot. Uh, that's that's just not never 334 00:18:54,897 --> 00:18:56,897 Speaker 1: going to happen as far as I could see, unless 335 00:18:56,897 --> 00:18:59,737 Speaker 1: he was replacing it with an even more extreme black 336 00:18:59,777 --> 00:19:02,697 Speaker 1: female candidate. It's never going to replace Kamal Law. If 337 00:19:02,697 --> 00:19:04,897 Speaker 1: something happened to Joe Biden and he could not run 338 00:19:05,137 --> 00:19:08,577 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you would you would see a you know, 339 00:19:08,657 --> 00:19:10,737 Speaker 1: a free ferral. You would see a new some run. 340 00:19:10,817 --> 00:19:14,497 Speaker 1: You would see maybe Gretchen Whittmer run. You'd see definitely 341 00:19:14,497 --> 00:19:16,977 Speaker 1: the governor of Illinois, who was one of the richest 342 00:19:16,977 --> 00:19:20,217 Speaker 1: people in the country run um. He probably spent a 343 00:19:20,217 --> 00:19:24,417 Speaker 1: billion dollars to run, um and then would see what happened. 344 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:27,577 Speaker 1: But unless something happens to Joe Biden, you're not going 345 00:19:27,657 --> 00:19:31,097 Speaker 1: to see him. Kawa. 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Breakdown 391 00:21:47,137 --> 00:21:49,537 Speaker 1: for us, like if this was the super Bowl and 392 00:21:49,617 --> 00:21:52,577 Speaker 1: you were assessing each team's advantages, weaknesses and how they 393 00:21:52,617 --> 00:21:55,177 Speaker 1: stack up. How does a Trump desantist super Bowl look 394 00:21:55,217 --> 00:21:58,857 Speaker 1: to you? Well, from what I've heard from people close 395 00:21:58,937 --> 00:22:01,377 Speaker 1: with the Trump campaigns, they've kind of already kind of 396 00:22:01,377 --> 00:22:03,897 Speaker 1: conceded that New Hampshire and Iowa they may lose, and 397 00:22:03,897 --> 00:22:06,977 Speaker 1: they're putting all their work into South Carolina. It is 398 00:22:07,017 --> 00:22:10,017 Speaker 1: the state that has decided every Republican primary primary election 399 00:22:10,257 --> 00:22:13,537 Speaker 1: except for one twenty twelve when New Gangridge won it. 400 00:22:14,977 --> 00:22:18,457 Speaker 1: And I think that's where he feels he could rebound 401 00:22:18,497 --> 00:22:21,897 Speaker 1: in case Iowa voters is a caucus, so it's all 402 00:22:21,977 --> 00:22:24,857 Speaker 1: that organization, something that the Trump campaign was never famous for. 403 00:22:25,297 --> 00:22:28,577 Speaker 1: And New Hampshire is independent voters. They're swingy voters. They 404 00:22:28,617 --> 00:22:31,737 Speaker 1: kind of do what they want to do. And Trump. 405 00:22:31,737 --> 00:22:36,457 Speaker 1: According to the latest polls, there is extraordinarily unpopular among 406 00:22:36,577 --> 00:22:39,777 Speaker 1: especially college educated Republicans in New Hampshire. So I think 407 00:22:39,817 --> 00:22:41,737 Speaker 1: a lot of energy is going to be spent into 408 00:22:41,817 --> 00:22:46,457 Speaker 1: South Carolina de Santis. De Santis is there was a 409 00:22:46,497 --> 00:22:48,857 Speaker 1: great article in National View. I think I can remember 410 00:22:48,857 --> 00:22:52,937 Speaker 1: who we wrote, Daniel something or other. But we don't 411 00:22:53,017 --> 00:22:55,257 Speaker 1: know a lot of De Santis on a national level. 412 00:22:55,497 --> 00:22:58,137 Speaker 1: We know a lot of US As governor Florida on 413 00:22:58,297 --> 00:23:02,297 Speaker 1: certain culture war issues like immigration and education, he's been pivotal, 414 00:23:02,737 --> 00:23:05,257 Speaker 1: but I don't know Engo to Stantas. As a trade policy, 415 00:23:05,297 --> 00:23:09,017 Speaker 1: he voted for TPP. That's all I know he voted. 416 00:23:09,057 --> 00:23:12,257 Speaker 1: He we've no idea really what his position is on military, 417 00:23:12,577 --> 00:23:16,697 Speaker 1: on foreign policy. There's a lot of open questions, and 418 00:23:16,777 --> 00:23:19,457 Speaker 1: I don't know what the team necessarily looks completely like 419 00:23:19,697 --> 00:23:22,137 Speaker 1: if he does make a run. I think, as of 420 00:23:22,257 --> 00:23:25,697 Speaker 1: right now, there's only two real Canists versus Trump and Decantis. 421 00:23:25,817 --> 00:23:29,617 Speaker 1: I don't think that anyone so far, who's even you know, 422 00:23:29,697 --> 00:23:31,457 Speaker 1: put their heads out say I want to run like 423 00:23:31,457 --> 00:23:35,217 Speaker 1: a Nicky Haley type is has any chance in the world. 424 00:23:35,257 --> 00:23:37,417 Speaker 1: I gotta. I got a call from one of Nicky 425 00:23:37,497 --> 00:23:40,457 Speaker 1: Haley's consultants and they were like, we're at nine percent 426 00:23:40,497 --> 00:23:42,817 Speaker 1: in South Carolina. This is so great. I go, she 427 00:23:43,017 --> 00:23:46,377 Speaker 1: was governor there. Yeah, that's your best date and your 428 00:23:46,497 --> 00:23:50,577 Speaker 1: nine percent you're in real serious trouble, Like you're not 429 00:23:50,657 --> 00:23:54,617 Speaker 1: making traction with every anywhere. Um. I think it just 430 00:23:54,657 --> 00:23:56,617 Speaker 1: depends on now who else makes run. The problem of 431 00:23:56,697 --> 00:24:00,017 Speaker 1: running for president for voters is that it's such a 432 00:24:00,097 --> 00:24:03,297 Speaker 1: profitable business. Now there's no incentive not to run for president. 433 00:24:03,897 --> 00:24:07,937 Speaker 1: So we may see a calicar of like clown Is that? 434 00:24:08,217 --> 00:24:11,497 Speaker 1: Is that the the the clown car of candidates which 435 00:24:11,537 --> 00:24:13,337 Speaker 1: we certainly had back in twenty sixteen. I think it 436 00:24:13,377 --> 00:24:15,297 Speaker 1: was nineteen of them, which was just maybe it was 437 00:24:15,297 --> 00:24:18,017 Speaker 1: even twenty It was crazy. But if we even have 438 00:24:18,217 --> 00:24:22,257 Speaker 1: six or seven candidates, does that dramatically favor Trump in 439 00:24:22,657 --> 00:24:26,337 Speaker 1: your mind in terms of the primary structure. Not necessarily, 440 00:24:26,417 --> 00:24:30,657 Speaker 1: because once you lose, once you go into Super Tuesday, 441 00:24:30,657 --> 00:24:32,817 Speaker 1: which is at that point only fifteen states have voted 442 00:24:32,937 --> 00:24:37,457 Speaker 1: after Super Tuesday. Basically it falls apart. There's it's very 443 00:24:37,697 --> 00:24:40,057 Speaker 1: very very rare in American politics for it to be 444 00:24:40,057 --> 00:24:43,377 Speaker 1: a competitive election after Super Tuesday. Hillary and Bernie was 445 00:24:43,417 --> 00:24:47,897 Speaker 1: a rare exception. I didn't clear the field by Super Tuesday. 446 00:24:48,537 --> 00:24:52,017 Speaker 1: Trump and Cruz. Super Tuesday, Trump had the nomination. Even 447 00:24:52,017 --> 00:24:54,457 Speaker 1: though Cruz kept fighting, it was it was over. They 448 00:24:54,457 --> 00:24:57,297 Speaker 1: could be saying, Wisconsin, Indiana, these states will stop him. 449 00:24:57,537 --> 00:25:02,177 Speaker 1: It was over. After Super Tuesday, John Kerry clear the field, 450 00:25:02,217 --> 00:25:06,137 Speaker 1: Bush clear the field from McCain. So it's more than 451 00:25:06,217 --> 00:25:09,617 Speaker 1: likely that the nomination is wrapped by Obama. Hillary was 452 00:25:09,657 --> 00:25:13,417 Speaker 1: a rare exception, but it is more than likely wrapped 453 00:25:13,417 --> 00:25:16,537 Speaker 1: by Super Tuesday. So the first fifteen states that hold 454 00:25:16,537 --> 00:25:21,937 Speaker 1: the competition will decide the nomination. If Trump loses, like 455 00:25:22,177 --> 00:25:24,817 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know half of the states and 456 00:25:24,897 --> 00:25:27,377 Speaker 1: to Super Tuesday, maybe he keeps going. But if he 457 00:25:27,497 --> 00:25:32,017 Speaker 1: loses these delegate rich winner take all states like Florida, UM, 458 00:25:32,697 --> 00:25:35,537 Speaker 1: and UH and doesn't do well in a place like Texas, 459 00:25:35,577 --> 00:25:38,897 Speaker 1: which has hundreds of of delegates, it is very hard 460 00:25:38,897 --> 00:25:41,017 Speaker 1: to see him want to go to the nominating floor 461 00:25:41,777 --> 00:25:45,217 Speaker 1: and lose there and it's a huge repudiation for former president. 462 00:25:45,337 --> 00:25:48,497 Speaker 1: So I think that I think that you know, time 463 00:25:48,497 --> 00:25:51,177 Speaker 1: will only tell, but it is just a big it's 464 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:53,817 Speaker 1: a big question to Santa's or not de Santas or 465 00:25:53,857 --> 00:25:57,217 Speaker 1: Trump and uh and certainly if you would like to 466 00:25:57,217 --> 00:26:00,297 Speaker 1: be either. Canada right now the trajectory is into Santa's favor, 467 00:26:00,337 --> 00:26:02,537 Speaker 1: according to every pole that's out there. But once again, 468 00:26:02,617 --> 00:26:04,337 Speaker 1: we're very very early in the process. He's not even 469 00:26:04,337 --> 00:26:06,217 Speaker 1: a nominating that's not early in the process. Where are 470 00:26:06,577 --> 00:26:08,657 Speaker 1: do you think that in the In the one of 471 00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:11,417 Speaker 1: the scenarios you outline there, say Trump is doing very 472 00:26:11,457 --> 00:26:13,457 Speaker 1: poorly in the Republican primary. It's clear it's not going 473 00:26:13,497 --> 00:26:16,137 Speaker 1: to happen for him. Do you think he'd run third party? 474 00:26:16,297 --> 00:26:19,577 Speaker 1: Just because so several states I think called a sore 475 00:26:19,737 --> 00:26:22,657 Speaker 1: loser state, a sore loser law rather where if you 476 00:26:22,737 --> 00:26:25,457 Speaker 1: run in a primary, you cannot run independent in a general. 477 00:26:25,937 --> 00:26:28,977 Speaker 1: States like Texas have that law. There's other states that 478 00:26:29,137 --> 00:26:31,617 Speaker 1: probably will consider it very quickly if he's if he 479 00:26:31,817 --> 00:26:35,137 Speaker 1: talks about doing that. But also it's very hard to 480 00:26:35,217 --> 00:26:38,937 Speaker 1: then get on the ballot you run in twenty twenty four, 481 00:26:39,537 --> 00:26:46,257 Speaker 1: the first elections are in January, February March by May, 482 00:26:46,617 --> 00:26:48,217 Speaker 1: you have to be on the ballot in most of 483 00:26:48,257 --> 00:26:50,617 Speaker 1: these states. This is why the third party candidates really 484 00:26:50,657 --> 00:26:54,937 Speaker 1: are decided by June. Trump did not Trump. Part of 485 00:26:54,977 --> 00:26:57,497 Speaker 1: the reason Trump did not win Wisconsin last time was 486 00:26:57,537 --> 00:27:00,897 Speaker 1: because the Green Party was denied ballot access in Wisconsin 487 00:27:01,257 --> 00:27:04,577 Speaker 1: and the Libertarian Party was not. Had they been denied, 488 00:27:04,697 --> 00:27:07,657 Speaker 1: had they had ballot access in such a tight state, 489 00:27:07,697 --> 00:27:09,337 Speaker 1: it would have been likely that he might have won 490 00:27:09,377 --> 00:27:14,177 Speaker 1: that state. But it is a very very very hard 491 00:27:14,217 --> 00:27:17,617 Speaker 1: thing to do to change gears from a Republican primary 492 00:27:17,697 --> 00:27:21,417 Speaker 1: process to trying to get ballot access. Last second, I 493 00:27:21,457 --> 00:27:23,857 Speaker 1: don't think it's ever been done. Some states it's easier 494 00:27:23,857 --> 00:27:25,617 Speaker 1: to do. Maybe he get ballot access in like New 495 00:27:25,617 --> 00:27:28,617 Speaker 1: Hampshire or you know, some of the easier states, But 496 00:27:29,137 --> 00:27:32,737 Speaker 1: it would be very very very difficult. Certainly not capable 497 00:27:32,737 --> 00:27:34,897 Speaker 1: of doing it nationwide. Certainly not a couple of capable 498 00:27:34,897 --> 00:27:39,137 Speaker 1: of doing it in some major states. So he could try, 499 00:27:39,217 --> 00:27:42,617 Speaker 1: but I have a hard time seeing how that's possible. Now, 500 00:27:42,897 --> 00:27:48,577 Speaker 1: how do you stack up Trump versus Biden if in 501 00:27:48,617 --> 00:27:53,617 Speaker 1: fact that is what the contest becomes. So these elections 502 00:27:53,657 --> 00:27:59,497 Speaker 1: that are redos like redo. Elections oftentimes do not favor 503 00:27:59,897 --> 00:28:03,417 Speaker 1: the challenger the second time, because you're telling voters to 504 00:28:03,577 --> 00:28:06,377 Speaker 1: acknowledge that they made a mistake the first time. There's 505 00:28:06,537 --> 00:28:10,057 Speaker 1: one major exception, which is New Hampshire's first congressional district. 506 00:28:10,537 --> 00:28:12,097 Speaker 1: It's on the east. It's a small district in the 507 00:28:12,137 --> 00:28:15,977 Speaker 1: East Siding Hampshire congressional race where the same two people 508 00:28:16,057 --> 00:28:18,857 Speaker 1: ran for a decade against each other and every two 509 00:28:18,937 --> 00:28:22,937 Speaker 1: years to flipped back and forth. Those kinds of cases, though, 510 00:28:23,257 --> 00:28:25,297 Speaker 1: are rare, where people sit there and say no, I'll 511 00:28:25,297 --> 00:28:28,097 Speaker 1: give you another shot, and usually they're in swing districts 512 00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:30,577 Speaker 1: that are just trying to emerge. I don't ever see 513 00:28:30,577 --> 00:28:34,817 Speaker 1: it really statewide except for Bill Clinton and Arkansas's governor. 514 00:28:35,097 --> 00:28:38,017 Speaker 1: But most of the time, if someone loses and then 515 00:28:38,057 --> 00:28:40,777 Speaker 1: tries to run again, voters do not give them the 516 00:28:40,777 --> 00:28:43,697 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Now, the economy's bad, who knows 517 00:28:43,737 --> 00:28:45,497 Speaker 1: where the world will be in a year and a 518 00:28:45,497 --> 00:28:48,337 Speaker 1: half from now. Maybe Trump can emerge. The problem with 519 00:28:48,417 --> 00:28:51,857 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Joe Biden, for both candidates, is that 520 00:28:52,777 --> 00:28:55,857 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the country has made their opinion 521 00:28:55,857 --> 00:29:00,177 Speaker 1: about him. There's not a huge swing factor where all 522 00:29:00,217 --> 00:29:02,497 Speaker 1: of a sudden you wake up and say, you know, 523 00:29:02,697 --> 00:29:04,617 Speaker 1: let me give this guy a second chance. I haven't 524 00:29:04,657 --> 00:29:07,657 Speaker 1: heard enough from him, YadA, YadA, YadA. Maybe his positions 525 00:29:07,777 --> 00:29:11,617 Speaker 1: or untrue. And I think a problem from the Trump 526 00:29:11,697 --> 00:29:15,537 Speaker 1: campaign perspective if I was on that campaign is do 527 00:29:15,537 --> 00:29:17,537 Speaker 1: you remember there was a Shawan Hannay interview in twenty 528 00:29:17,577 --> 00:29:20,857 Speaker 1: twenty where they asked, Seawan asked Trump, what's your term agenda? 529 00:29:20,857 --> 00:29:23,937 Speaker 1: And he didn't have an answer. I didn't see that though, 530 00:29:23,977 --> 00:29:27,017 Speaker 1: but he did. It was it was a famous interview. 531 00:29:27,057 --> 00:29:29,257 Speaker 1: He said, what's your second term agenda? And Trump had 532 00:29:29,297 --> 00:29:32,017 Speaker 1: no answer for it, and there was no in twenty twenty, 533 00:29:32,017 --> 00:29:35,257 Speaker 1: there was no Republican itinerary that because of Jared Kushner 534 00:29:35,257 --> 00:29:37,817 Speaker 1: personally said that he wasn't he would you say, no answer? 535 00:29:37,897 --> 00:29:41,097 Speaker 1: Did he just say, like, probably doing the best things, 536 00:29:41,137 --> 00:29:46,977 Speaker 1: the most amazing all the things. It was a word salad. Okay, yes, 537 00:29:47,057 --> 00:29:49,537 Speaker 1: it was a salad of like, no, it's a very 538 00:29:49,577 --> 00:29:51,737 Speaker 1: It was a very embarrassing answer, but it was no ant. 539 00:29:51,777 --> 00:29:53,617 Speaker 1: He couldn't answer. And then like a couple, we started 540 00:29:53,697 --> 00:29:55,897 Speaker 1: game back on the show and Sean asked him the 541 00:29:55,937 --> 00:29:58,937 Speaker 1: same question again and he had, like, you know, we're 542 00:29:58,937 --> 00:30:01,697 Speaker 1: gonna keep making America grid against something like that. Um 543 00:30:02,097 --> 00:30:04,377 Speaker 1: but certainly no answer on COVID, Certainly no answer on 544 00:30:04,497 --> 00:30:08,977 Speaker 1: whatever if. The question if the campaign's theme, as it 545 00:30:09,057 --> 00:30:15,737 Speaker 1: seems right now is things were perfect right before twenty twenty, 546 00:30:15,777 --> 00:30:18,417 Speaker 1: it leaves a lot to be desired. It is not 547 00:30:18,497 --> 00:30:23,497 Speaker 1: a very ambitious position to be in, and not one 548 00:30:23,657 --> 00:30:27,657 Speaker 1: where if you felt, you know that your life wasn't 549 00:30:27,657 --> 00:30:30,897 Speaker 1: perfect in twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen, or things weren't great, 550 00:30:30,977 --> 00:30:33,457 Speaker 1: or the Boarder War wasn't built, or whatever the cases, 551 00:30:34,257 --> 00:30:35,897 Speaker 1: it leaves a lot to be decided. It is not 552 00:30:36,097 --> 00:30:39,177 Speaker 1: very forward looking. And that was what Trump was so 553 00:30:39,297 --> 00:30:41,137 Speaker 1: great about in twenty sixteen was it was a very 554 00:30:41,177 --> 00:30:46,097 Speaker 1: forward looking campaign with tangible, objective goals. And I think 555 00:30:46,137 --> 00:30:48,537 Speaker 1: that's really what's missing right now from the Trump campaign 556 00:30:48,577 --> 00:30:50,537 Speaker 1: that I think should be there, that it is not. 557 00:30:51,697 --> 00:30:53,377 Speaker 1: Let's take a moment here for our sponsor at the 558 00:30:53,377 --> 00:30:56,497 Speaker 1: telen ofth The Towers Foundation Tell the Towers has been 559 00:30:56,617 --> 00:30:59,617 Speaker 1: honoring America's heroes ever since the tragedy of nine to eleven. 560 00:30:59,857 --> 00:31:02,617 Speaker 1: The Foundation honors fallen and severely injured heroes and their 561 00:31:02,657 --> 00:31:05,737 Speaker 1: families with mortgage free smart homes this year alone, hundreds 562 00:31:05,737 --> 00:31:08,657 Speaker 1: of gold Star and fallen first responder families with young children, 563 00:31:08,777 --> 00:31:11,697 Speaker 1: and our nation's most severely injured veterans and first responders 564 00:31:11,737 --> 00:31:15,017 Speaker 1: are receiving homes. 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By the time people are actually 583 00:32:11,657 --> 00:32:15,137 Speaker 1: voting on this, the Biden administration won't be saying, yeah, 584 00:32:15,137 --> 00:32:17,337 Speaker 1: we screwed up the withdrawal. They're gonna be saying we 585 00:32:17,377 --> 00:32:20,737 Speaker 1: withdrew from Afghanistan, and memories will be a little hazy 586 00:32:20,777 --> 00:32:23,257 Speaker 1: about the way in which it was done, and they 587 00:32:23,257 --> 00:32:25,497 Speaker 1: will just say we got us out of that war. 588 00:32:27,057 --> 00:32:30,457 Speaker 1: The only thing I say that maybe might not work 589 00:32:30,497 --> 00:32:33,657 Speaker 1: in the Biden plan is I heard the story. I 590 00:32:33,737 --> 00:32:35,417 Speaker 1: don't know if it's true or not, but I heard 591 00:32:35,497 --> 00:32:39,137 Speaker 1: that the Taliban started selling weapons to Russia that we 592 00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:44,617 Speaker 1: left over there to combat Ukraine. So we're all of 593 00:32:44,657 --> 00:32:46,657 Speaker 1: a sudden, I mean, if we're all of a sudden 594 00:32:46,697 --> 00:32:49,217 Speaker 1: fighting American weapons that we left over Afghanistan, it will 595 00:32:49,257 --> 00:32:52,897 Speaker 1: be uh, it will not be the one that's bad. 596 00:32:53,257 --> 00:32:54,977 Speaker 1: That's a bad look, to be sure. You know. It's interesting. 597 00:32:54,977 --> 00:32:57,977 Speaker 1: Brian Ryan, Um, when I was there, sorry, when I 598 00:32:58,017 --> 00:33:03,857 Speaker 1: was there, Um back in uh in Afghanistan twenty ten, 599 00:33:04,497 --> 00:33:09,297 Speaker 1: Afghanistan was providing like ninety percent of the world's opium 600 00:33:09,377 --> 00:33:10,897 Speaker 1: that was where you were getting. You know, there were 601 00:33:10,937 --> 00:33:13,977 Speaker 1: some that was being grown in South America and Peru 602 00:33:14,177 --> 00:33:17,297 Speaker 1: and some in Mexico, and the cartels were transporting all 603 00:33:17,297 --> 00:33:20,777 Speaker 1: this stuff into the States. But Afghanistan was the one 604 00:33:20,817 --> 00:33:23,817 Speaker 1: stop shop for all the criminal syndicates all over the 605 00:33:23,897 --> 00:33:26,977 Speaker 1: world basically to get you know, opium from from the 606 00:33:27,017 --> 00:33:30,697 Speaker 1: poppy plants. And it's interesting I wonder how how it 607 00:33:30,737 --> 00:33:35,457 Speaker 1: has changed that the financial realities of the Taliban, because 608 00:33:35,937 --> 00:33:38,537 Speaker 1: with fentanyl, which obviously has been as a chemical process, 609 00:33:38,977 --> 00:33:40,897 Speaker 1: you don't have to grow it anymore, and you have 610 00:33:40,897 --> 00:33:43,377 Speaker 1: a much more potent drug, much more easy to transport, 611 00:33:43,457 --> 00:33:46,417 Speaker 1: much harder for I think it's much more difficult for 612 00:33:46,457 --> 00:33:49,137 Speaker 1: like um, you know, in a variety of ways to 613 00:33:49,177 --> 00:33:51,177 Speaker 1: transport it and everything else than fentanyl would be. I 614 00:33:51,217 --> 00:33:53,697 Speaker 1: don't know if dogs that was souper. It's easier to 615 00:33:53,737 --> 00:33:57,177 Speaker 1: smell heroin than it would be to smell the pill 616 00:33:57,217 --> 00:34:01,817 Speaker 1: former fentanyl. But I think it's changed the game dramatically 617 00:34:01,857 --> 00:34:04,897 Speaker 1: for how the Taliban can actually fund itself, so selling 618 00:34:05,057 --> 00:34:08,417 Speaker 1: arms would Yeah, I'm they're still growing poppies, obviously, they're 619 00:34:08,417 --> 00:34:09,977 Speaker 1: still selling it, but it's not the same as it 620 00:34:10,137 --> 00:34:13,657 Speaker 1: used to be, right, Well, I'm just saying, is the 621 00:34:13,657 --> 00:34:15,977 Speaker 1: problem with doing I mean, I think we should have 622 00:34:15,977 --> 00:34:19,337 Speaker 1: gone an Afghanistan a decade ago, but the that would 623 00:34:19,337 --> 00:34:21,337 Speaker 1: look like a black eye. And I just don't think 624 00:34:21,337 --> 00:34:25,097 Speaker 1: that foreign policy is the high profile thing. Now. If 625 00:34:25,977 --> 00:34:29,577 Speaker 1: you know, a terrorist goes off in the United States 626 00:34:29,577 --> 00:34:32,337 Speaker 1: that came through the southern border, considering we'recapturing the fifty, 627 00:34:32,657 --> 00:34:34,697 Speaker 1: you know, a month, it feels like or a quarter 628 00:34:35,617 --> 00:34:38,377 Speaker 1: in our southern border suspected terrorists on the watch list, 629 00:34:39,137 --> 00:34:43,257 Speaker 1: we'll see what how foreign policy has looked at from 630 00:34:43,257 --> 00:34:45,577 Speaker 1: that state. I just don't think it is a high priority, 631 00:34:45,777 --> 00:34:48,137 Speaker 1: you know. And the bigger problem is is that for 632 00:34:48,217 --> 00:34:50,737 Speaker 1: most Republicans, they have been more they have not learned 633 00:34:50,777 --> 00:34:53,177 Speaker 1: to be less hawkish. I mean, you have miss McConnell, 634 00:34:53,617 --> 00:34:56,137 Speaker 1: who I don't hate Miss McConnell, but Miss McConnell did 635 00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:58,217 Speaker 1: stay over and over again. Ukraine's the number one issue 636 00:34:58,697 --> 00:35:01,377 Speaker 1: for Americans, and there's not a single American really, you know, 637 00:35:01,457 --> 00:35:03,457 Speaker 1: outside of Washington, d you see, or in the military 638 00:35:03,497 --> 00:35:09,457 Speaker 1: industrial complex that feels that way. So you know, luckily, 639 00:35:09,497 --> 00:35:11,777 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing is that when we have 640 00:35:11,897 --> 00:35:15,457 Speaker 1: a candidate a nomination process, you're going to see the 641 00:35:15,577 --> 00:35:22,697 Speaker 1: complete splintering of Republicans on issues. So where Republicans where 642 00:35:22,697 --> 00:35:25,777 Speaker 1: the priority is on foreign policy, let's say it happens 643 00:35:25,817 --> 00:35:27,937 Speaker 1: by November, you will see a hawkish Canid like Mike 644 00:35:27,937 --> 00:35:32,417 Speaker 1: Pompeyo or Nikki Haley really gained some traction, it is not. 645 00:35:32,617 --> 00:35:35,497 Speaker 1: And if Republicans really don't have the stomach for long 646 00:35:35,537 --> 00:35:39,497 Speaker 1: military engagements, as they don't, because for the last twenty years, 647 00:35:39,537 --> 00:35:42,097 Speaker 1: the people who have paid the price of military adventurism 648 00:35:42,377 --> 00:35:47,257 Speaker 1: has only been read State America, it's been read County America, 649 00:35:47,497 --> 00:35:50,217 Speaker 1: then I have a hard time seeing these hawkish views 650 00:35:50,777 --> 00:35:53,457 Speaker 1: gaining any traction and seeing these candidates who have these 651 00:35:53,417 --> 00:35:55,857 Speaker 1: hawks huws getting any intraction. And if you see even 652 00:35:55,897 --> 00:35:59,217 Speaker 1: in Congress right now or the Senate, the candidates who 653 00:35:59,337 --> 00:36:02,897 Speaker 1: have a more i'll say quote unquote debbish position or 654 00:36:02,977 --> 00:36:07,737 Speaker 1: a hesitant position on foreign engagements certainly have increased their 655 00:36:07,817 --> 00:36:10,697 Speaker 1: numbers in the Congress in a way that we would 656 00:36:10,697 --> 00:36:14,697 Speaker 1: have never seen twenty years ago. So that's optimistic to see. 657 00:36:14,697 --> 00:36:16,257 Speaker 1: So that's how I have a very hard time seeing 658 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:20,337 Speaker 1: how they're going to gain traction in in the presidential election. 659 00:36:20,377 --> 00:36:22,177 Speaker 1: And I think that's just not a high priority and 660 00:36:22,297 --> 00:36:26,257 Speaker 1: lessening dramatic changes. But listen, Russia invading Ukraine did not 661 00:36:26,417 --> 00:36:29,577 Speaker 1: change it to make it a high enough issue. Why 662 00:36:29,577 --> 00:36:34,937 Speaker 1: didn't inflation hurt Biden more? Because the number one projection 663 00:36:34,977 --> 00:36:38,697 Speaker 1: of inflation is the gas pump. And well two reasons. One, 664 00:36:38,737 --> 00:36:40,937 Speaker 1: because gas was going down. It's the number one sign. 665 00:36:40,977 --> 00:36:48,137 Speaker 1: And secondly, for many parts of this country that are 666 00:36:48,177 --> 00:36:55,297 Speaker 1: suburban areas, it is almost too wealthy to be heavily 667 00:36:55,377 --> 00:36:59,097 Speaker 1: impacted by inflation. Now maybe it's starting to you're starting 668 00:36:59,097 --> 00:37:01,137 Speaker 1: to see like sixty something percent of Americans over one 669 00:37:01,217 --> 00:37:05,577 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year paycheck by paycheck. But the 670 00:37:06,297 --> 00:37:09,857 Speaker 1: comfortable middle upper middle class of the suburbs that used 671 00:37:09,857 --> 00:37:12,777 Speaker 1: to Republican on issues of crime and issues of the 672 00:37:12,817 --> 00:37:16,657 Speaker 1: economy are too wealthy and too safe to be impacted. 673 00:37:16,697 --> 00:37:19,777 Speaker 1: So culture issues are a higher priority to them than 674 00:37:19,777 --> 00:37:23,577 Speaker 1: they used to be. And that is why they genuflect 675 00:37:23,697 --> 00:37:26,537 Speaker 1: to BLM and trans rights and everything like that to 676 00:37:27,177 --> 00:37:31,057 Speaker 1: show their fellow white college educated neighbors mostly how wonderful 677 00:37:31,097 --> 00:37:35,457 Speaker 1: they are as people. And it's that great insular sorting 678 00:37:35,657 --> 00:37:39,017 Speaker 1: that Charles Murray talked about in his books that has 679 00:37:39,097 --> 00:37:43,737 Speaker 1: prevented really the upper middle class of America to see 680 00:37:43,817 --> 00:37:47,737 Speaker 1: the anxieties of working class people. They don't. They're never 681 00:37:47,817 --> 00:37:50,617 Speaker 1: around them. I mean it's just you know, if you 682 00:37:50,657 --> 00:37:54,897 Speaker 1: know people who are not rich, they're not billionaires, but 683 00:37:54,977 --> 00:37:57,417 Speaker 1: they are certainly upper middle class. How many people they 684 00:37:57,417 --> 00:38:00,417 Speaker 1: live around don't have a college degree. What colleges did 685 00:38:00,457 --> 00:38:02,257 Speaker 1: they go to? Do they go to community college? Very 686 00:38:02,257 --> 00:38:04,257 Speaker 1: few of them did, unless they just started making their money. 687 00:38:04,297 --> 00:38:08,417 Speaker 1: Their children certainly not So this great sort has definitely 688 00:38:09,337 --> 00:38:12,857 Speaker 1: not seen people with people with anxiety. Economic anxiety are 689 00:38:12,937 --> 00:38:15,937 Speaker 1: not end social anxiety over things like immigration are not 690 00:38:16,017 --> 00:38:18,577 Speaker 1: around those who feel that way. What do you think 691 00:38:18,697 --> 00:38:22,657 Speaker 1: is the area of greatest weakness for Democrats? That if 692 00:38:22,657 --> 00:38:26,697 Speaker 1: Republicans are effective in messaging, they can gain the most 693 00:38:26,817 --> 00:38:32,657 Speaker 1: ground for the next election cycle. Immigration certainly very very 694 00:38:32,737 --> 00:38:36,577 Speaker 1: very high. But the two major things are going to 695 00:38:36,657 --> 00:38:40,057 Speaker 1: be I think that they're going to have to walk 696 00:38:40,137 --> 00:38:43,217 Speaker 1: away from the conversations of our national abortion ban. I 697 00:38:43,297 --> 00:38:46,017 Speaker 1: just think it's too toxic and they're going to have 698 00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:48,737 Speaker 1: to walk away. Even though they have state restrictions are fine, 699 00:38:48,897 --> 00:38:52,697 Speaker 1: a national abortion ban is too toxic. People view it differently, 700 00:38:53,337 --> 00:38:56,097 Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be I think the 701 00:38:56,217 --> 00:38:58,737 Speaker 1: area they can make the most progress, and especially among 702 00:38:59,657 --> 00:39:02,537 Speaker 1: working class communities, is crime and immigration. I think that 703 00:39:02,617 --> 00:39:06,057 Speaker 1: crime is the key to winning over large segments of Asians. 704 00:39:06,417 --> 00:39:09,137 Speaker 1: You know, I had a friend who's an Asian activist, 705 00:39:09,217 --> 00:39:14,457 Speaker 1: I guess Asian activists who lifelong Democrat, was getting thousands 706 00:39:14,497 --> 00:39:16,577 Speaker 1: of them to vote Republican in the New York election 707 00:39:16,657 --> 00:39:22,057 Speaker 1: for governor and very successful the winning Asian Republican seats 708 00:39:22,217 --> 00:39:25,497 Speaker 1: throughout New York City. But sat there and said, we 709 00:39:26,017 --> 00:39:28,257 Speaker 1: need commercial show what was the crime? We see it 710 00:39:28,257 --> 00:39:30,577 Speaker 1: on our phones every day and we know that no 711 00:39:30,617 --> 00:39:32,897 Speaker 1: one wearing a MAGA hat is hitting our Asian grandmas. 712 00:39:34,737 --> 00:39:38,257 Speaker 1: It's they can read fbiaistics better than a white college 713 00:39:38,337 --> 00:39:43,057 Speaker 1: edukit a person who probably can so it's u So 714 00:39:43,097 --> 00:39:46,057 Speaker 1: I think the crime immigration of the two biggest things, 715 00:39:46,177 --> 00:39:50,057 Speaker 1: especially as the refugeene asylum crisis is hitting. You know. Ever, 716 00:39:50,177 --> 00:39:51,377 Speaker 1: there was a story I don't know if you saw 717 00:39:51,417 --> 00:39:56,217 Speaker 1: us in Rhode Island where teachers were crowdfunding to pay 718 00:39:56,257 --> 00:39:59,857 Speaker 1: off a cartel member who were bringing in students into 719 00:39:59,937 --> 00:40:05,617 Speaker 1: Rhode Island to pay off their cartel fees. Idee that headline. Yeah, So, 720 00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:09,657 Speaker 1: I mean this has hit such a precipice when New 721 00:40:09,777 --> 00:40:12,217 Speaker 1: York City is buckling, and this is only going to 722 00:40:12,217 --> 00:40:14,697 Speaker 1: get worse over the next year where local communities are 723 00:40:14,937 --> 00:40:19,657 Speaker 1: genuinely affected. And I really do think that, aside from 724 00:40:19,697 --> 00:40:22,297 Speaker 1: the cartel crime that's coming in, you're going to see 725 00:40:22,857 --> 00:40:29,217 Speaker 1: a possible either terrorists attack, thwarted or possibly successful. You're 726 00:40:29,257 --> 00:40:32,457 Speaker 1: having too many people come to this border. Fifty a quarter, 727 00:40:32,577 --> 00:40:34,577 Speaker 1: sixty a quarter who are on the terrorist watch list. 728 00:40:34,737 --> 00:40:36,937 Speaker 1: This is going to some of them are going to 729 00:40:36,977 --> 00:40:39,777 Speaker 1: get through, and who knows who they are. And I'm 730 00:40:39,777 --> 00:40:41,457 Speaker 1: not saying being nine eleven, but it could certainly be 731 00:40:41,497 --> 00:40:44,297 Speaker 1: a Sandburn Adidas type situation. It's not that difficult for 732 00:40:44,497 --> 00:40:47,897 Speaker 1: something to execute. And we'll say, I mean, I think 733 00:40:47,937 --> 00:40:49,977 Speaker 1: the immigration No. One crime are the two biggest, two 734 00:40:49,977 --> 00:40:52,297 Speaker 1: biggest thanks for working class people to start moving, and 735 00:40:52,377 --> 00:40:55,097 Speaker 1: even some suburban people in places like Long Island or 736 00:40:55,137 --> 00:40:59,097 Speaker 1: you know, some suburbs and in some other big areas. Ryan, 737 00:40:59,177 --> 00:41:02,217 Speaker 1: your dusk, everybody, it's a very wise man. Follow him 738 00:41:02,297 --> 00:41:05,417 Speaker 1: on a sub stack the National Populist newsletter. Ryan, I'll 739 00:41:05,457 --> 00:41:06,857 Speaker 1: talk to you soon, buddy, We'll have you back. Thanks 740 00:41:06,897 --> 00:41:07,657 Speaker 1: for being with us, Ye