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Speaker 2: Hey, hey hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition.
Speaker 2: Hey y'all, we are a different kind of brown on,
Speaker 2: brown and bishon. Today.
Speaker 1: Mandra unfortunately is not feeling well, but we wish her well,
Speaker 1: you know, with the new baby and things. But instead
Speaker 1: we have my very good, awesome, amazing friend and I'll
Speaker 1: go for this yer leader Jason Vitag and welcome.
Speaker 3: Jason, Tiffany. Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: So Jason is also a Jersey in like myself and Jason.
Speaker 1: How long have we been friends?
Speaker 3: Close to ten years?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ten years?
Speaker 3: Ten years?
Speaker 1: Yes, right, So we've been in this game for years.
Speaker 1: It's made me. I don't even know the hip hop song,
Speaker 1: but anyway, but Jason and I have been friends for
Speaker 1: a long time. I met him because he too is
Speaker 1: a financial educator. Jason honestly is one of the inspirations
Speaker 1: for my recent slow down and you'll hear why, like
Speaker 1: how awesome he is. But I don't want to just
Speaker 1: be like Jason's my friend. He's more than that. He's dope.
Speaker 1: Jason is a wellness advocate and best selling New York
Speaker 1: Times reviewed author of two books Right. He is the
Speaker 1: founder of Frugal phrog a l and is an award
Speaker 1: winning creator of the Road to Financial Wellness product project.
Speaker 1: Jason is also a certified Diversity, Equity and Inclusion expert.
Speaker 1: He holds the Psychology of Financial Planning certification and is
Speaker 1: also a certified yoga instructor and breathwork specialist. We go
Speaker 1: get him to do a breath exercise with us, y'all.
Speaker 1: Jason focuses on a holistic approach where money isn't the goal,
Speaker 1: money is the tool to help achieve the goals. He's
Speaker 1: also been featured on the ted X Stage, y'all, FU,
Speaker 1: Finance Forms, Business Insider, and we already say New York
Speaker 1: Times to name a few. All in all, Jason is incredible,
Speaker 1: and he has a new book called Happy Money, Happy Life,
Speaker 1: which is like literally Jason in a book. You know,
Speaker 1: so one of things Jason that I admire about you
Speaker 1: that I admired and still admire about you. Is that
Speaker 1: a long time ago? So Jason used to be on
Speaker 1: the grind like me. You know, we were all working
Speaker 1: really hard. This is like, you know, like ten eight
Speaker 1: years ago, personal finance in the way that it is
Speaker 1: now was just coming to be a thing. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like people like me and Jason and Sandy
Speaker 1: and also other people, we were kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: starting this kind of personal finance journey and brand and
Speaker 1: bringing y'all in. But while most of us kept grinding
Speaker 1: until we have we were nothing but little nubs. I know.
Speaker 1: Notice about halfway through that Jason didn't seem to be
Speaker 1: grinded yet he was still making you know, good money.
Speaker 1: You know that I saw that he was posting pictures
Speaker 1: of his walks. I remember when Jason, he became a
Speaker 1: certified yoga instructor. You would be posting your yoga like
Speaker 1: you know, you would like during pandemic. You were doing
Speaker 1: yoga so people can do it along with you. I
Speaker 1: just remember being like, what is going on with Jason?
Speaker 1: Because I know you still have frugal I know you're
Speaker 1: still a financial educator. But then there's this other part
Speaker 1: of you, the zen chill, like I'm not doing all
Speaker 1: that part of you. Like what happened?
Speaker 3: It's fascinating, right because I think when I disappeared out
Speaker 3: of the personal finance space and I was I was
Speaker 3: honing into the wellness space a bit more. So everyone
Speaker 3: was wondering what happened to my business or did I
Speaker 3: just go totally broke? And I was like, no, I
Speaker 3: need to focus on my physical, mental, and spiritual health.
Speaker 3: And I built a business that was running like with itself,
Speaker 3: so I just didn't need to participate as much as
Speaker 3: I needed to. What really happened was I think you
Speaker 3: put it in there like we're in the grind, we're
Speaker 3: in the hustle, and I am a big believer that
Speaker 3: gears that grind for too long get worn out and
Speaker 3: then thrown out.
Speaker 1: Oh say again, I put the people to bad Jason
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 3: Again, Gears that grind for too long get worn out
Speaker 3: and then thrown out. I certainly didn't want to be
Speaker 3: thrown out, and so I know this is something that
Speaker 3: I believe in. Like the work that we do, This
Speaker 3: is purposeful work for me, but it's also grueling. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of demands. There's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that we have to do to get the things going.
Speaker 3: And so especially when we are driven with our own
Speaker 3: personal ambition and we're driven with passion and purpose, we
Speaker 3: can get worn out doing those things. And I felt
Speaker 3: myself getting worn out. And when we get worn out,
Speaker 3: we start making all these decisions, ill decisions, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's just like it's a compounding
Speaker 3: effect and it's going to affect our mental health, our
Speaker 3: emotion well being, and then I'm going to start feeling
Speaker 3: tired and lethargic. And so that's exactly what happened. I mean,
Speaker 3: I became a bestseller, became the sought after speaker going
Speaker 3: all around the country, and it was great, but all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I just started feeling like I was
Speaker 3: being pulled away from the work I wanted to do
Speaker 3: to just appear. And the one thing that really hit
Speaker 3: home was when someone said to me, I was chasing
Speaker 3: influence over affluence, and influence is this, Oh you got
Speaker 3: to be like on stage every single time, I have
Speaker 3: to be on social media every single time, versus like
Speaker 3: really working on affluence and affluence isn't just the financial
Speaker 3: wealth it's about how my feeling like in other parts
Speaker 3: of my life. And so I know this that there
Speaker 3: were areas of my life I needed to work on.
Speaker 3: And yeah, like I think just like you, we're like
Speaker 3: we're grinding away and then other things in our lives
Speaker 3: start happening, and so I needed to listen and take
Speaker 3: a step back. And that's exactly what happened. And so
Speaker 3: when all this stuff's happened, I took a step back.
Speaker 3: I can go. I need to reassess, readjust and revaluate
Speaker 3: where I'm walking.
Speaker 1: I love that. And you, you really you started to
Speaker 1: make those changes long before it became like now people
Speaker 1: are like, I don't want to overwork, But you made
Speaker 1: them when it was really scared to make those changes
Speaker 1: because no one was doing that. Back then. It was like, uh, Jason,
Speaker 1: the money is getting good. What you know with Jason
Speaker 1: sitting down a little bit. So one of the things,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons why I wanted Jason
Speaker 1: to come on is because in his book, his new book,
Speaker 1: Happy Money, Happy Life, which is available at Happy Money,
Speaker 1: Happy Life book dot com. Don't you like that? I
Speaker 1: told Jason, I'm like, go get that domain, Happy Money,
Speaker 1: Happy lifebook dot com. Okay, it's the name of his book.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that really blew me away
Speaker 1: about your book is this, it is a multiple multiple
Speaker 1: what is it? Multi dimensional approach? Right? And I had
Speaker 1: never really heard of that before. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like in passing. But I didn't realize that there were
Speaker 1: these eight dimensions that you know, really help really compose
Speaker 1: what full wellness and holistic wellness? Can you tell us
Speaker 1: what these dimensional, multi dimensional approaches are and how does
Speaker 1: money play a role in this? In that and in
Speaker 1: your book?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's interesting, right because I thought I came
Speaker 3: up with this brilliant idea that there are eight dimensions
Speaker 3: of wellness. And so I remember in twenty sixteen going, okay,
Speaker 3: everything is connected. So it's not just financial, it's not
Speaker 3: just professional, there's mental and emotional. Everything's connected. And then
Speaker 3: eventually I started doing the research and finding all these studies.
Speaker 3: For decades, people have talked about the multidimensionality of human beings,
Speaker 3: and so for me, I chose the eight wellness dimensions
Speaker 3: because I think that encompasses who we are, and they
Speaker 3: are mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, social, environmental, occupational, and financial.
Speaker 3: Those are the eight dimensions that make you you. We
Speaker 3: are multifaceted, dimensional, multi layered individuals. And the reason why
Speaker 3: when things seem to be working out in one area
Speaker 3: of our life and we don't feel happy or we
Speaker 3: don't feel well, chances are there is a dimension that
Speaker 3: needs your attention. And so for me, in this book,
Speaker 3: what I do is I talk about these dimensions through
Speaker 3: the lens of money. I show how money weaves itself
Speaker 3: through these dimensions and how it impacts us positively or negatively.
Speaker 3: And most of the time too, it could be our
Speaker 3: own decision making when it comes to money, and also
Speaker 3: the external factors that we have no control over the economy,
Speaker 3: the job market, and other decisions around us. And so
Speaker 3: what I want people to understand when we are focused
Speaker 3: so much, and this is what happened to me. I
Speaker 3: was so focused for period of my life on professional success,
Speaker 3: that is occupational health, which I call happy work. What
Speaker 3: we do, we take our identity and we base it
Speaker 3: solely on salary and the title we hold at this job,
Speaker 3: and so all these achieved. Well if we solely focus
Speaker 3: on occupational health and we excel to the detriment of
Speaker 3: our mental and physical health, well guess what happens. It's
Speaker 3: going to affect our finances, It's going to affect every
Speaker 3: other aspects of our well being. And so for this instance,
Speaker 3: when I was at a point when I was like
Speaker 3: grinding away climbing up the corporate ladder and it became
Speaker 3: VP of Marketing and business development for this financial institution,
Speaker 3: while I was suffering mentally, I was emotionally drained, and
Speaker 3: that psychological distress was manifesting itself physically. So I was
Speaker 3: getting sick, I developed vertigo, I had like pink eye
Speaker 3: or red eyes for two weeks. My eyes were bleeding
Speaker 3: for two weeks, and I couldn't get out of bed.
Speaker 3: And then when I couldn't get out of bed, I
Speaker 3: felt useless and it started affecting my social wellbeing because
Speaker 3: I didn't want to hang out with friends or family.
Speaker 3: And then I felt this void in my life because
Speaker 3: something that I was passionate about at that time, climbing
Speaker 3: up to career ladder, was affecting spiritually. And so for me,
Speaker 3: I want people to understand, like these dimensions are interconnected,
Speaker 3: they're overlapping, and so once you understand these eight dimensions
Speaker 3: and how they there's there intersectionality of them. It is
Speaker 3: a powerful life changing way of looking at yourself.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Jaysa. I was just telling her a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: like literally, I was like super excited. I was telling
Speaker 1: her a friend of mine, about your book, and I
Speaker 1: was telling him that, like, yo, I you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of you understand that obviously there are components to
Speaker 1: your life, but I could never understand why to your point,
Speaker 1: when I was making the most amount of money I've
Speaker 1: ever made, I was so miserable. My blood pressure had spiked.
Speaker 1: It was like, and now I have to honestly say,
Speaker 1: you know that, despite all that's happened, you know, I
Speaker 1: am in a space of grief, grace and gratitude, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually happy. And I'm like how And I
Speaker 1: was literally I pulled up the eight dimensions and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm happy because every aspect of these dimensions I am
Speaker 1: present in. You know, because before I wasn't hanging out
Speaker 1: that it was just budgets them, there was no tiffany,
Speaker 1: so the social out the window. I had gained thirty pounds,
Speaker 1: my blood pressure had spiked, so physical was not being
Speaker 1: looked after financial. I mean, I was good as far
Speaker 1: as money, but that was about it. Every other part
Speaker 1: of my life was out of alignment. And so I
Speaker 1: thought like, well, I thought, if I work really hard
Speaker 1: and I'm make really good money and I'm helping people,
Speaker 1: that it should be enough. It wasn't because I was
Speaker 1: not looking at myself holistically. And so that's why I
Speaker 1: love because you know, one of the things, that's one
Speaker 1: of the things I love about you as a person,
Speaker 1: but also the fact that you wrote this book to
Speaker 1: talk about that. You know, we talk about money, but
Speaker 1: I always say it's really not money. You know that
Speaker 1: I want people to use money to live. Well, now
Speaker 1: how do you do that? And I feel like with
Speaker 1: Happy Money, Happy Life, you know, that's what you that's
Speaker 1: what you talk about, like how do you use your
Speaker 1: money as a tool, you know, not the goal itself.
Speaker 1: So thank you for that. So we're actually going to
Speaker 1: jump to a quick break because you know, we all
Speaker 1: to we get to Falcon right. So we've got Jason
Speaker 1: v tug a frugal but this new book, Happy Money,
Speaker 1: Happy Life, will be right back black and Brown. And
Speaker 1: we're back in Black and Brown, super excited. We have
Speaker 1: Jason in the studio in this stew with us talking
Speaker 1: about multi dimensionality. We're talking about Happy Money, Happy Life,
Speaker 1: his new book. So, Jason, while we're back, you did
Speaker 1: something with my dream catches the other day that was amazing.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to put you on the spot. You
Speaker 1: did just a really quick breathing activity, and I'd like
Speaker 1: for you to just walk us through this like two
Speaker 1: or three minute breathing activity, even if you're driving, you
Speaker 1: have the kids or whatever. If you can't do it, now,
Speaker 1: that's okay. Look at the time stamp. You know of
Speaker 1: this activity on the video or the audio that you're watching,
Speaker 1: so you can come back to it. And I want
Speaker 1: Jason to lead us through because when I tell you
Speaker 1: it chilled me, y'all know I'm hyper. It chilled me
Speaker 1: all the way out. So Jason, the floor is yours.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: So I want to preface this because I think it's
Speaker 3: important for people to understand why I am a breathwork
Speaker 3: specialist and why this is part of my daily routine.
Speaker 3: Because there are just so many things happening in this world.
Speaker 3: There's so many things that cause us stress in our lives,
Speaker 3: and so it's not just financial and so for me,
Speaker 3: discovering breath work was a life changing kind of force,
Speaker 3: and what I've been doing is incorporating it in these
Speaker 3: talks is it's such a powerful way for us to
Speaker 3: address our nervous system, because our nervous system is like
Speaker 3: it's all hyped up. And so what I do want
Speaker 3: to say is that when you get an opportunity, go
Speaker 3: back to this timestamp, and so you could do this
Speaker 3: in a safe space, because when we're working with breath
Speaker 3: it will change how you feel in your body. And
Speaker 3: so if you're in a safe space right now, I
Speaker 3: want you to gently kind of lift up your body,
Speaker 3: feel that energy flowing from from your core all the
Speaker 3: way up to your head, nice and tall back, Relax
Speaker 3: your shoulders, allow your to drop gently towards your chest.
Speaker 3: You can close your eyes if you want to, if
Speaker 3: you feel comfortable, and just be present in this moment.
Speaker 3: And I want you to start noticing where your breath
Speaker 3: enters your body through the nose, perhaps through your mouth,
Speaker 3: and feeling that sensation of air through your nostrils, through
Speaker 3: your body and filling up your lungs, and just being
Speaker 3: present with that force. Now as you get in touch
Speaker 3: and feel this pull of gravity in any parts of
Speaker 3: your body that's touching the floor. We're gonna work with
Speaker 3: manipulating your breath. We're gonna go and take a nice
Speaker 3: deep inhale through your nose, filling your lungs up with
Speaker 3: air and releasing through your mouth with a sigh. And
Speaker 3: let's do that in hell through your nose, filling your
Speaker 3: lungs up with air and releasing through your mouth with
Speaker 3: a sigh. And allow yourself to do this a few
Speaker 3: more times. And the power of this is that we
Speaker 3: hold so much tension around our jawline, around our mouth,
Speaker 3: so you're probably noticing there's that tension there. And by
Speaker 3: simply breathing in through our nose and intentionally and mindfully
Speaker 3: exhaling through our mouth with that sigh, we're allowing our
Speaker 3: body to remain still, to be present, to relax. And
Speaker 3: let's take one more deep inhale through the nose, and
Speaker 3: I want you to hold it at the top for
Speaker 3: three seconds one, two, three, and then release allow yourself.
Speaker 3: And now as you get in and are in your body,
Speaker 3: I want you to start gently wiggling your fingers, wingling
Speaker 3: your toes, allow yourself to come back into the room
Speaker 3: and welcome back into this three D physical world.
Speaker 1: That was so amazing, Jason. Honestly, it just it just
Speaker 1: this is one of the things that like I appreciate
Speaker 1: most about you, that this is what you bring to
Speaker 1: the financial space in a special way that I don't
Speaker 1: know that there's anybody, you know, no one on that
Speaker 1: I know, no one that I followed, no one that
Speaker 1: I've read up about that approaches personal finance from this space.
Speaker 1: You know, this fully grounded, this fully like you know,
Speaker 1: just breath work and personal finance. It just doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like it matches, but it does. Imagine doing a breathwork
Speaker 1: exercise before you sit down and budget with your partner,
Speaker 1: you know, imagine doing yoga moves every Saturday, and you know,
Speaker 1: before you do your budget for the week. You know, Like,
Speaker 1: I just love that, Like this is the space, This
Speaker 1: is the unique beauty that you bring to this, this
Speaker 1: personal finance space. And I just you know, I hope
Speaker 1: you all, you know you're listening, if you got a
Speaker 1: chance to do a little bit that's short, a little
Speaker 1: bit of breath work that you know you're feeling as
Speaker 1: calm as I am, that you can tell my voice
Speaker 1: is totally changed. I'm like, Yeah, I'm so chill, you know,
Speaker 1: but like, but I know it hasn't always been easy,
Speaker 1: you know, for you, Jason, and I think it would
Speaker 1: be good for people to hear. I know you shared
Speaker 1: a little bit of like how you got here, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, just maybe diving deeper into how you
Speaker 1: got here and why did you write this book so
Speaker 1: we can go on the journey with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you for that. I want people to
Speaker 3: understand that we all have personal journeys, and our journey
Speaker 3: isn't this straight linear upward trajectory, and it isn't just
Speaker 3: a downward trend either. And for me, I've had ups
Speaker 3: and downs, twists and turns. I thought I had it
Speaker 3: all figured out. Well, I thought I had it all
Speaker 3: figured out when I quit my corporate job and went
Speaker 3: backpacking around the world discovering my purpose. And discovering my
Speaker 3: purpose wasn't the end to my story. When I started
Speaker 3: frugal and I started on this mission becoming me financial
Speaker 3: educator and incorporating health and wealth, that wasn't really the
Speaker 3: case because I got pulled into the entrepreneurial hustle. So
Speaker 3: when I was hustling in corporate America and then I
Speaker 3: was hustling in the entrepreneurial world. I was experiencing the
Speaker 3: same burnout. I was experiencing the same issues. The physical
Speaker 3: manifestations of all the mental gymnastics that I was doing
Speaker 3: was causing me a great deal of distress and now
Speaker 3: affecting me professionally in the work that I absolutely loved doing,
Speaker 3: and then impacting my finances. And so there was a
Speaker 3: point in my life, tiffany where, just like you, I
Speaker 3: reached this level financial success and I'm like, I'm at
Speaker 3: the top of my game. I'm getting paid tens of
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars to speak for one hour, and coming
Speaker 3: from a city like Elizabeth, New Jersey, the fourth largest city,
Speaker 3: growing up where we lived in seventeen different houses, where
Speaker 3: we didn't talk about money. I didn't have luxury goods,
Speaker 3: we didn't go on fancy vacations, and like growing up
Speaker 3: with just the essentials and not knowing about the how
Speaker 3: the other half lives did impact me. And so when
Speaker 3: I achieved these financial success and I thought, that's how,
Speaker 3: that's what's going to make me happy. And when I
Speaker 3: achieve that level of professional and financial success, there were
Speaker 3: still all these other things I needed to work on.
Speaker 3: And so for me, just getting the becoming mentally drained,
Speaker 3: emotionally exhausted, physically ill just affected my professional and financial success.
Speaker 3: So I started making bad financial decisions and I was
Speaker 3: actually really ashamed of that. And that has a lot
Speaker 3: to do with like, Okay, well you are a money expert.
Speaker 3: How could you make financial mistakes as a money expert?
Speaker 3: And I was making those mistakes at the height of
Speaker 3: my quote unquote financial influence. And for me, it's realizing
Speaker 3: that this is a journey of ups and downs and
Speaker 3: twists and turns, and I have the opportunity, as long
Speaker 3: as there's air in my lungs, as long as I
Speaker 3: am motivated to get up and do the work, that
Speaker 3: I can have a different path. I can take a
Speaker 3: different path, I can choose, I make different choices. And
Speaker 3: so for me, I've no longer have the shame, the guilt,
Speaker 3: the embarrassment of my financial mistakes. And I certainly know
Speaker 3: that as I continue on this journey, I'll probably make
Speaker 3: a few more financial mistakes. But the message I want
Speaker 3: people to understand is that money is just one aspect
Speaker 3: of who we are, and if we can remove the
Speaker 3: small little stress of our financial life, we can then
Speaker 3: focus on other aspects of our well being. And so
Speaker 3: for that little short thing is I just want people
Speaker 3: to know I still don't have it all figured out,
Speaker 3: but getting my money right, understanding where work takes presidents
Speaker 3: in my well being and everything else. Like I'm working
Speaker 3: towards that holistic wellness that I want everyone else to
Speaker 3: be on in this journey.
Speaker 1: If you follow him Jason Vita j A s O
Speaker 1: n v I t ug fanatic, Okay, you'll see like
Speaker 1: you'll get to You're not just gonna get money stuff,
Speaker 1: You're going to get him. I just saw you were
Speaker 1: walking your dog in the park for your daily walk.
Speaker 1: I love that. One of the things I like. So
Speaker 1: there's like chapter I think it's like chapter five to ten.
Speaker 1: Can you read some of the chapter titles. I love that,
Speaker 1: Like how you weaved it. It's like happy soul happy,
Speaker 1: What is it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I want people to understand, like there is
Speaker 3: these wellness dimensions and I call them happy dimensions. How
Speaker 3: we can incorporate the happy dimensions into our life. So
Speaker 3: mental health is happy mind, emotional health is happy heart,
Speaker 3: physical health is happy body, and then you have your
Speaker 3: spiritual that's happy spirit, your social wellbeing, right, the people
Speaker 3: that's around you, that's happy social, occupational, that's your work,
Speaker 3: it's happy work. Environmental, the physical places you inhabit and
Speaker 3: live that does effectively, that does affect your well being.
Speaker 3: That's happy space. And your financial health that's happy money.
Speaker 1: And so love that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just think it's just a way like think about
Speaker 3: your wellness as these in these happy dimensions. And we
Speaker 3: need to figure out how we can again utilize money
Speaker 3: as a tool to help us in these things. And
Speaker 3: when you mentioned like we talk about money is a tool,
Speaker 3: and I like people to think of money as a
Speaker 3: tool to create fill in the blank. So what do
Speaker 3: you want money to create in your life? Because a
Speaker 3: lot of these financial gurus, what do they talk about?
Speaker 3: They talk about space, financial milestones, to talk about how
Speaker 3: much you need on your four to one K, your investments,
Speaker 3: your savings accounts, those things are important because it's going
Speaker 3: to help you improve your financial health, your happy money. Now,
Speaker 3: you have to understand once you get to that point
Speaker 3: or you're working towards achieving those investment numbers or those
Speaker 3: financial numbers, don't forget your happy mind, your happy heart,
Speaker 3: your happy body, your happy spirit, you could work towards
Speaker 3: happy money while you're working towards lifting or strengthening those
Speaker 3: other dimensions.
Speaker 1: I love that honestly. Yeah, we have Jason V. Tug here.
Speaker 1: You know, Happy Money, Happy Life available at Happy Money,
Speaker 1: happylifebook dot com. Get you aok happy Okay? Any last words, Jason?
Speaker 1: You know, like if someone wanted to start, if someone's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to just look at my money, what's
Speaker 1: something that I can besides picking up your book? You
Speaker 1: know what's something that I can do today to start
Speaker 1: to incorporate a more holistic approach to my.
Speaker 3: Money, well aside from the financial tactics that we talk about.
Speaker 3: And then and you do so well with Get Good
Speaker 3: with Money. Get that copy of the book, because that
Speaker 3: is a holistic way to get your financial wholeness going.
Speaker 3: The first step I would recommend is just paying attention
Speaker 3: to your breath. We did breath work. So the one
Speaker 3: key thing that when I meet someone, I know how
Speaker 3: they are doing based on how they're breathing. If they
Speaker 3: have short, quick breaths coming out of their mouth, I
Speaker 3: know that they're going through something, and so the way
Speaker 3: I interact with them will be a bit different. I'll
Speaker 3: give them space and grace that they need. And if
Speaker 3: I see someone who has calm and collected yes, then
Speaker 3: I know that we could have a different type of conversation.
Speaker 3: So they want you to do is become aware of
Speaker 3: how you're breathing. Are you breathing through your nose or
Speaker 3: are you're breathing through your mouth? Is your jaw clenched?
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're not getting enough air and
Speaker 3: you're gasping? And the reason why I want you to
Speaker 3: pay attention to that is because your physical body is
Speaker 3: sharing something about your mental and emotional state through breathing.
Speaker 3: And if you are unable to fully breathe be in
Speaker 3: your body, it is really hard to budget. It is
Speaker 3: really hard to have that conversation with your partner, it's
Speaker 3: really hard to get on the phone and try to
Speaker 3: negotiate your service contracts and things like that.
Speaker 1: So that is the first step.
Speaker 3: And I think that's such an eye opening thing when
Speaker 3: you go and you may not notice it for yourself,
Speaker 3: but the next time you speak with someone and you
Speaker 3: see that they're holding their breath, that they're breathing through
Speaker 3: their mouths, it's say that's kind of one of the
Speaker 3: key things, and so I'm known now to go it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: how are you doing? And then it's and then they'll
Speaker 3: open up. And that just has to do with paying
Speaker 3: attention to the breath. And I think I want everyone
Speaker 3: to be at home just just be cognizance. I'm planting
Speaker 3: this little seed in your mind. Be cognizant of how
Speaker 3: you're breathing, and learn more about these breath work techniques.
Speaker 3: And I actually have thirty different We did one, we
Speaker 3: did two now with the dream Catchers and here brand Ambition,
Speaker 3: but there there are more than thirty.
Speaker 1: But there are.
Speaker 3: Thirty breathwork techniques that can help you get energized and
Speaker 3: also that calm down and help you sleep. And so
Speaker 3: breath is such a powerful force when it comes to
Speaker 3: healing our mental emotional state as well as healing our
Speaker 3: money traumas.
Speaker 1: Jason, honestly, it's just so amazing, isn't he amazing? Guys? Honestly,
Speaker 1: this is Can I make a suggestion for you, Jason?
Speaker 1: So you know when people go to happy Money, Happy life,
Speaker 1: you know, I know right now it's pointing to like
Speaker 1: Amazon or whatever, but I know you have a book page.
Speaker 1: Can I suggest that you post maybe three to four
Speaker 1: of those breath work activities on the book page, like
Speaker 1: you know, via like a YouTube link, just so when
Speaker 1: people come they know what Tomity is. And I just
Speaker 1: love that. I think paying attention to your breath that
Speaker 1: just speaks to who Jason is and how he shows up,
Speaker 1: like you know that it's not this direct financial thing,
Speaker 1: it's this indirect thing that will enable you to be
Speaker 1: more successful with your money and beyond. So just Jason,
Speaker 1: thank you so so so so much. Where can the
Speaker 1: people find you, Where can they get your book? Let
Speaker 1: us know?
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much. Well you inspired me, Tiffany.
Speaker 3: I just I do want to say that you inspired
Speaker 3: me because a lot of previous conversations in terms of
Speaker 3: how do I get more people to understand the book
Speaker 3: really helped me out. I also spoke with my brother John,
Speaker 3: who is a doctoral candidate for his psychology degree, and
Speaker 3: he said, and you said, I need to be more
Speaker 3: present in terms of like let me just show how
Speaker 3: this is done. And so I decided to do wellness Wednesdays.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do a ten to fifteen minute show
Speaker 3: live streaming on all the platforms because you've you've educated
Speaker 3: me on how to do that, and I want people
Speaker 3: to understand that we can talk about stress, job related
Speaker 3: or financial stress or whatever stress, but then using these
Speaker 3: tactical breath work techniques and also chair yoga. People don't
Speaker 3: know I do chaer yoga, so you could do yoga
Speaker 3: while you're sitting at your desk, so you get your
Speaker 3: body moving and it changes and shifts your mind. So
Speaker 3: with that said, I do encourage you to follow me
Speaker 3: on social medium active on Instagram if you love travel
Speaker 3: and yoga poses as I as I tell you when
Speaker 3: we do asanas, you breathe in wealth, breathe out debt
Speaker 3: again and say it with me, everyone breathing well, we
Speaker 3: breathe out debt and and so it's just it's just
Speaker 3: how incorporate things. So follow me on Instagram and Twitter
Speaker 3: and connect with me on LinkedIn, and you could certainly
Speaker 3: find more info about the book at Happy Money, Happy
Speaker 3: lifebook dot com.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so it's Jason Vitaeil on all those places, right, Jason, Yes,
Speaker 1: v I t U g Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Jason. You're always such a gift. It's a
Speaker 1: privilege and a pleasure to have you on but even
Speaker 1: more so to call you friend, Thank you,