1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another episode 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: of Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. The thoughts and 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: opinions expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: and do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast A out, employees of 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: premier networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. You get ready to 10 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: be amazed to find a wizard of weird. This is 11 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: Strange Things with Warren. I am Joshua Pee Warren, and 12 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand 13 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: new mind blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you 14 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: can do at home, and a lot more on this 15 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: edition of the show. The Talking Mongoose and Amazing Animals. 16 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: I was recently having dinner with my wife Lauren at 17 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: a restaurant and we had some sort of Indian inspired 18 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: dish and for some reason, the subject of a mongoose 19 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: came up and I said, Hey, remember that story about 20 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: the talking mongoose That would make a good movie, huh. 21 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: And Laurence said what I said, you know that the 22 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: case of the talking mongoose, And she's like, no, I 23 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: I have never heard of that. And I realized that 24 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: this is something that I had not thought about myself 25 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: from many, many years. Of course, when I was a kid, 26 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: I was infatuated with books about the paranormal and the unknown, 27 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of stories that we're considered to some 28 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: degree non fiction stories. And one that sticks out in 29 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: my mind that influenced something in me when I was 30 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: a kid was reading a book that had this bizarre 31 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: retelling of the talking mongoose that was owned by a 32 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: family on the Isle of Man that's a British isle, 33 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: and sort of like the controversy that arose and it 34 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: just started getting a lot of tabloid coverage and you 35 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: had investigators going there and it was just a really 36 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: bizarre story and there was there supposedly pictures of this mongoose. 37 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: But anyway, I said, you know, I need to go 38 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: back as an adult now and refresh myself on this. 39 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: And of course immediately I thought, well, gosh, if if 40 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about this in years, and Lauren has 41 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: never even heard of it. Well, I bet the listeners 42 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: of Strange Things would like to know a little bit 43 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: about this story. So let me just give you the 44 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: basics here about this creature named Jeff G. E. F. 45 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: And he was referred to as the talking mongoose, who 46 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: they said inhabited a farmhouse on the Isle of Man 47 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: owned by the Irving family. This story was given extensive 48 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: coverage by the tabloid press in in the early nineteen thirties, 49 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: and the Irving's claims gained the attention of a lot 50 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: of parapsychologists and ghost hunters, because, as you'll see, there's 51 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: a paranormal element to this, including the famed Harry Price. 52 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: If you've never looked into Harry Price, he's an interesting guy. 53 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: He was sort of the model ghost hunter back of 54 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 1: the day. So, um, okay, here's the story here, here's 55 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: how all this supposedly broke down. In September of nineteen 56 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: thirty one, the Irving family, consisting of James, Margaret, and 57 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: a thirteen year old daughter named Vory, claimed that they 58 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: heard persistent scratching, wrestling, and vocal noises behind their farmhouses 59 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: wooden wall panels, and uh they thought that the sounds 60 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: somehow resembled a ferret, a dog, or a baby. What 61 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: they said, I know, it's kind of weird. So anyway, 62 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: according to the Irvings, they started telling people here that 63 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: a creature named Jeff had appeared one day, introduced itself 64 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: and told them it was a mongoose. Now I'm talking 65 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: about this thing is speaking perfect English to them, and 66 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Jeff said, I am a mongoose. I was born in 67 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: New Delhi, India and eighteen fifty two, and according to Vorri, 68 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: the thirteen year old daughter, Jeff was the size of 69 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: a small rat, with yellowish fur and a large bushy tail. 70 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: Now you might be asking yourself, folks, Okay, fine, let's 71 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: go with this. Let's suspend disbelief. We have ourselves a 72 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: mongoose that appears at the farmhouse one day and he's 73 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: speaking the King's English. Well, what the heck does he 74 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: have to say? What does this thing have to say? Well, 75 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: there we go. The Irvings say that Jeff communicated to 76 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: them that he was quote an extra extra clever mongoose 77 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: end quote. Sounds like he has a bit of an ego, 78 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Uh. And then he went on to say 79 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: he was quote an earth bound spirit and a quote 80 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: ghost in the form of a mongoose, and once even 81 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: said quote, I am a freak. I have no hands 82 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: and I have feet, and if you saw me, you'd faint, 83 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: you'd be petrified, mummified, turned into stone, or a pillar 84 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: of salt end quote. The Irvings made various claims about Jeff, 85 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: that he supposedly guarded their house and informed them of 86 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the approach of guests or any unfamiliar dog. They said 87 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: that if someone had forgotten to put out the fire 88 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: at night while, he would go down and stop to stove, 89 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: and the Irvings claimed Jeff would also wake people up 90 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: when they overslept or whenever mice got into the house. Uh. 91 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: He kind of assumed the role of a cat, although 92 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: he preferred to scare them rather than kill him. The 93 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Irvings say they gave Jeff biscuits, chocolates, and bananas, and 94 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: food was left for him, and a saucer suspended from 95 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: the ceiling, which he took when he thought no one 96 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: was watching. The Irvings claimed the mongoose regularly accompanied them 97 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: on trips to the market, but always stayed on the 98 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: other side of the hedges, chatting incessantly. He was a 99 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: talkative little thing. So some house you know, story got out, 100 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: The word got around and again it became popular in 101 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the tabloid press, and so many journalists flocked to the 102 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: aisle to try to catch a glimpse of the creature. 103 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Several other people, both locals and visitors, claimed to have 104 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: heard Jeff's voice and to claimed to have seen it. However, 105 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: physical evidence was lacking. Footprints, stains on the wall, and 106 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: hair samples claimed to be evidence of Jeff were identified 107 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: as belonging to the Irvings sheep Dog, as were several 108 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: photos which were claimed by the Irvings to depict Jeff. 109 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: So Margaret and Vry Irving left the home in nineteen 110 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: forty five. After James Irving died, they reportedly had to 111 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: sell the farm at a loss because it had the 112 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: reputation of being haunted. It was purchased by an actor 113 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: named Leslie Graham, and in nineteen forty six, this actor, 114 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: who bought their farm, claimed to the press that he 115 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: had shot and killed Jeff. I'm sure that made him 116 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: the most popular guy on the Aisle of Man huh, 117 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: and then displayed a body. It says the body displayed 118 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: by Graham was, however, black and white and much larger 119 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: than the famous mongoose, and very Irving was certain that 120 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: it was not Jeff. She died in two thousand five, 121 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: and in an interview published later in life, she maintained 122 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: that Jeff was not her creation. Well, as you can imagine, 123 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people believe this was all just a hoax. 124 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Kind of reminds you of I guess it was the 125 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: Coddington Ferry sort of thing. Uh. Some psychic investigators thought 126 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: that Jeff was a poultergeist or a ghost. A lot 127 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: of the debunkers and more skeptical people said that the 128 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: Irving family had colluded to perpetuate a hoax that was 129 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: originated by the daughter Vory. There was a reporter there 130 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: on the Aisle of Man who wrote that he caught 131 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: the girl making noises. Her father tried to convince him 132 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: the sound came from somewhere else. And we have researchers 133 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: like Joe Nickel. They're saying that he suspects Voori was 134 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: using ventriloquism and other tricks to take advantage of, you know, 135 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: people who were willing to believe um. There's one media scholar, 136 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: They say, who wrote this extra clever mongoose was an 137 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: imaginary companion created by the Irving's extra extra clever daughter. Okay, 138 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: so what do you think of that? Um? In fact, 139 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: you know I mentioned, I guess it was the cotting 140 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: Lye Fairies. We won't get into that right now, but 141 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: you know this was a series as the photographs that 142 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: were taken in England by some some young girls, and um, 143 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: they were fake. They were fake fairies. You can tell 144 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: that when you look at them now. But it caused 145 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: the same kind of stir. Well, what do I think 146 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: about the possibility that we had a real talking mongoose 147 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: here as a paranormal phenomenon. 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Welcome back to Strange Things on the 209 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. 210 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, beaming into 211 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: your wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 212 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 213 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Now do I think that Jeff the Talking Mongoose was 214 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: a real phenomenon, Well, let me break it down for 215 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: you like this. For one thing, I think it is 216 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: highly unlikely that the thirteen year old girl could have 217 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: successfully pulled off what sounds like some pretty complicated van 218 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: triloquism for all these people and reporters over such a 219 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: period of time. Is it impossible. No, But you know, 220 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends who are professional magicians, 221 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: and one of them is the great Adam Cardon. And 222 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: this guy, he has spent years learning how to throw 223 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: his voice. And I'm telling you you cannot understand how 224 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: amazing that is through watching a video or something. You 225 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: have to be there in person with somebody who can 226 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: do that. And uh and when what I mean is 227 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: like he can make it sound like his voice and 228 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: it's not his voice. He can make it sound like 229 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: some some other little voice you know, is coming from 230 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: another location. And this is a guy who's trained again 231 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: basically his whole life. He's a professional. This is all 232 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: he does. He travels the world doing magic. And you 233 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: can't just say, you know, pick a spot and say 234 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: throw your voice there. I mean, he looks for very 235 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: particular parameters in the environment to see, like what kind 236 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: of physical surfaces would most accurately capture that. So, like, 237 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: for example, if there's a coffee mug, or or a 238 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: bowl or something like that. That's really cool. He can 239 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of work with that. It helps a lot. But um, 240 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's a very difficult skill. And so if 241 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: there were enough people saying that they, you know, they 242 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: heard this mongoose talking, I don't think simply saying that 243 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: this thirteen year old girl had the skills to produce that. Um. 244 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: Now that said, moving on to the next possibility, was 245 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: this a mongoose that could talk? Well, look, I have 246 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: never seen a mongoose that can talk. I bet you 247 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: haven't either, and therefore I just can't say that there's 248 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: any evidence that a mongoose could show up and start 249 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: speaking the King's English. So that seems like we can 250 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of rule that one out as well. But what 251 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: did the mongoose say? The mongoose said, I'm a spirit. 252 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm a ghost, And so why don't we just take 253 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: the mongoose that it's word? That makes sense to me. 254 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: I do believe that spirits can manifest, and when they 255 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: do that, they can manifest in all kinds of different forms, 256 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: and so that's why, Look, I do keep my mind 257 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: open to the possibility that this was some kind of 258 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: a real phenomenon, but it was certainly a paranormal one. 259 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna find, you know, a mongoose 260 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: that can that can do that. But that got me 261 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: thinking about all of the animals out there that are 262 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: are just regular, ordinary biological animals that still can do 263 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: amazing things that border almost on paranormal. And it's important 264 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: for us to to think about that and remind ourselves 265 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: of that, because we get so egocentric and so caught 266 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: up in being a human that we forget that if 267 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: you take all these animals and you take humans, and 268 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you grind us up and you put 269 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: us under a microscope, we all look the same. We're 270 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: made out of the same chemicals and minerals and things 271 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: were just arranged differently. And so sometimes when you look 272 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: at amazing things that animals can do, it helps to 273 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: remind you about the amazing things that people might be 274 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: capable of doing if they train, or they meditate over time, 275 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: or they reach a certain spiritual level of enlightenment, or 276 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: they just happen to be born with a great talent. 277 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about you know, a lot of stuff 278 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: we would consider psychic, telepathic, telekinetic, etcetera. And so I 279 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: was looking through one of my books called Pet Ghosts 280 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: Animal Encounters from Beyond the Grave, and I really enjoy 281 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: looking over this one section. I want to give you 282 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: some examples about wonders of the animal kingdom. Now, these 283 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: are things that are you know, these are zoological facts 284 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: that I'm going to give to you right here, biological, 285 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: scientifically proven facts about different types of animals and the 286 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: things they can do. And if you consider that animals 287 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: can do this that are made more or less just 288 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: like you and I are, it's pretty amazing. So let's 289 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: just go down the list. Okay, Penguin's Penguins are able 290 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: to see ultra violet light, invisible to human eyes. Bats 291 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: can see and the UV range as well. Ordinarily, a 292 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: mammal's lens absorbs that frequency range, protecting the retinal cells, 293 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: but nocturnal creatures never develop that protection because it's not 294 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: a component of nighttime survival. Many insects have an outstanding 295 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: ability to see into the UV, especially bees. It helps 296 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: them identify plants and all kinds of you know, interesting patterns. 297 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: Yet oddly bees cannot see the color red, which is 298 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: easily visible to us, because that's too low of a 299 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: frequency for them. Now, think about that. A bee can 300 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: see things that you can't see, but it can't see red. 301 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: So you you look at your life and you think, well, 302 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: how much can I not see out there? Think of 303 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: people who are color blind. Then they never get to 304 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: see red either. On the other hand, some animals can 305 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: detect the infrared range, which is also invisible to humans. Now, 306 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: sources of heat produced infrared, and humans literally glow with 307 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: that energy. So perhaps the animals most sensitive to this, uh, 308 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: these are snakes. You know, snakes in the pit viper 309 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: family like rattle snakes, and their name comes from two 310 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: pits or little shallow holes just behind the nostrils on 311 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: either side of their head that can detect thermal radiation, 312 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: particularly from warm blooded prey. And these two pits kind 313 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: of provide depth perception, just like two eyes. So this 314 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: allows a serpent to perceive its prey as a textured 315 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: three dimensional form. Think about that and considering the usefulness 316 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: of two eyes or I like organs, imagine instead of 317 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: you having two eyes allowing you to cease something in 318 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: three D, what if you had eight eyes. Because most 319 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: spiders have four pairs of eyes, and this allows them 320 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: to see a span of three hundred and sixty degrees 321 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: all at once. It's virtually impossible for us to imagine 322 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: being able to see completely around ourselves. I mean, truly, 323 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: it's mind boggling try to think about that. And regardless 324 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: of an organism's ability to see a variety of wavelengths 325 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: of light and all that kind of stuff, you know, 326 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: humans appear very different to insects because of the way 327 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: that different creatures process what they see. So, for example, 328 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: humans appear to move in slow motion two insects like 329 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: roaches or flies, and this is because their brains are 330 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: able to perceive and make sense of their surroundings much 331 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: much faster than ours. So it's kind of similar to 332 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: a strobing phenomenon. You know, if you know anything about filmmaking, 333 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: you know, human action looks normal at about twenty four 334 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: frames per second, that's what we shoot in movies. But 335 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: if you shoot humans at a lower rate, like eighteen 336 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: frames per second, they appear to move in fast motion 337 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: like some of the old black and white comedies. But 338 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: if you shoot at at thirty six frames per second, 339 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: the people move in slow motion like some of some 340 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: of the people you see these extreme high speed cameras. 341 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: Uh on the on, These cameras that are high speed 342 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: used to slow down fast stuff. So these insects have 343 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: brains that are kind of like these high speed cameras, 344 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: and we look slow and lumbering to them. So that's 345 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: why it's so darn hard to swat a fly. They 346 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: see you like a big, slow giant. And there are 347 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: tons of creatures that can hear a broader range than humans. 348 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he can perceive around twenty to twenty thousand hurts. 349 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: But then you have dogs that can hear much higher, 350 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: up to forty thousand hurts. Cats can hear up to 351 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: sixty thousand hurts, and small animals like rodents can hear 352 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: up to one hundred thousand hurts really high pitch sounds. 353 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: It seems that generally the smaller your head, the higher 354 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: you can hear, because the size of your cranium kind 355 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: of determines that resonant cavity. So a big elephant here 356 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: is very very low and can perceive fifteen hurts are 357 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: less and because low waves travel farther than high ones, 358 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: elephants use them to communicate over vast distances in the wild. 359 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: Did you know what's even stranger, though, is that some creatures, 360 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: like a pigeon, can hear really really really low lower 361 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: than one hurts. Figure that one out. But aside by 362 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: how they can see and hear, you have animals that 363 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: have a whole spectrum of other abilities. Like pigs are 364 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: often criticized for being these unruly, uncouth eaters of slop, 365 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: but in fact they actually have finer taste than humans do. 366 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: Swine and goats have around fifteen thousand taste buds. Humans 367 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: only have about nine thousand. So think about that. Swine 368 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: and goats have more taste buds than humans. Rabbits have 369 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand even better, and they eat things that are 370 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: rotting and disgusting and they love it, so they are 371 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: wonderful tastes and side there. When we come back from 372 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: the break, I'm gonna tell you about more of the 373 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: creatures that I find amazing, including the one that I 374 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: think is possibly the most amazing of all. And I'm 375 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: setting you up here for a great presentation on paranormal animals. Boy, 376 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: we could go on and on with that one. I'm 377 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to strange things on the 378 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I heart Radio and Coast to Coast ham Paranormal Podcast Network. 379 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: I'll be right back after these messages. Stay right there, 380 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: there's more Joshua P. Warren coming right out. 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Warren. 414 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to straight Things on the I Heart Radio 415 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast am para normal podcast network. I'm 416 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: your host, Joshua pe Warren, and this is the show 417 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: where the unusual becomes usual. There is mixed data regarding 418 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: how birds migrate so accurately over long distances year over year. 419 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, many creatures, such as humans, have tiny traces 420 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: of magnetite in their heads, and these bits could act 421 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: as compass needles adjusting to the earth field, and if 422 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: the brain gains useful information from their position, this might 423 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: assist in orienting an animal properly. Interestingly, though, there was 424 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: this one scientist from Cornell named William Keaton, and he 425 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: attached some bar magnets to the heads and backs of pigeons, 426 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: certainly enough to distort any possible awareness of the Earth's 427 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: subtle magnetic field. However, these humming pigeons were still able 428 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: to home. Nobody can explain that. Even more amazing is 429 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: how some animals may respond not only to the Earth's terrain, 430 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: but to bodies and space as well. A marine biologist 431 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: named Frank Brown began experimenting with oysters in nineteen fifty four. 432 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: At his lab, it was well known that oysters would 433 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: open and close with the tide, spreading to ingest food 434 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: at high tide and then ceiling up at low tide, 435 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: and when Brown took groups of the creatures from Connecticut 436 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: shore to his lab in Illinois, there a thousand miles away. 437 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: The creatures retained their cycle of opening and closing all 438 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: in unison, but after two weeks their timing changed. The 439 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: oysters big and opening and closing at the time the 440 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: tide would have reached Evanstone had it been on the coast. 441 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: So perplexed by this, Brown surmise they might just be 442 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: adjusting by receiving cues from the variants in sunlight. So 443 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: he locked them in a completely dark, controlled chamber, and 444 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: this made no impact. They still responded like clockwork. It 445 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: seemed that these oysters were actually sensitive to the lunar 446 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: forces responsible for altering the tides. I'm talking about sensitive 447 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: to the Moon over two hundred and fifty thousand miles 448 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: away and space. And it's you know, it's said that 449 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: there is a thing called a tiltmeter out there which 450 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: is sensitive enough to detect the Moon's gravitational influence in 451 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: a cup of tea that was developed many years ago 452 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: by Hughes Aircraft. Um. But you know what, here's my 453 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: favorite though. We sort of marvel at how receptive all 454 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: these different creatures are too. Energy fields. I've always been 455 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: captivated by electric ills. They're actually snakelike fish and they 456 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: can grow up to be nine ft long, and it 457 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: says that they can produce frequently regularly up to six 458 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: fifty volts to stunt or kill prey. Now, keep in 459 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: mind a standard electrical socket in the US has a 460 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: hundred and ten volts. The heads are negatively charged and 461 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: the tails are positively charged, forming a long battery. And 462 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: before I tell you more about the electric ill, this 463 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: makes me wonder if some people who possess telekinetic ability, 464 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: that is, the psychic skill to affect matter without physically 465 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: touching it, are are able to perhaps generate electromagnetic or 466 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: electrostatic fields in a similar way. There was a very 467 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: interesting ted ed video that I recently watched on YouTube 468 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: that sort of broke down more about how the electric 469 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: ills produce the fields and the signals that they do. 470 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: And uh, it's surprisingly underwater where lighting is low, there 471 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of fish that produce low electrical signals 472 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: as a way to communicate, navigate, find and kill other creatures. 473 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: Nearly three hundred and fifty species of fish have anatomical 474 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: structures that generate and detect electrical signals in the water 475 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: up to fifteen or twenty feet away. I'm sure you've 476 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: heard about how sensitive sharks are to electromagnetism. But anyway, 477 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: these these fish are broken into two categories. The first 478 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: are called the weekly electric and these fish and they 479 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: have structures near their tails that produce almost as much 480 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: voltage as a double A battery that's around the vault 481 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: because the double A batteries one and a half volts, 482 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: so you know, think of a double A battery. So 483 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: their nervous system sends pulses to these stacks of electrical 484 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: cells at a specific perfect rate to basically make the 485 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: cells switch on and off, releasing chemicals with precise timing, 486 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: to act like a bunch of batteries with changing polarity 487 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: switching from positive to negative. And scientists are still not 488 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: sure exactly how that works. Now, when they send out 489 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: this electrical field into the water, they're able to sense 490 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: what comes back from it through electro receptors cells that 491 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: can detect electricity. So it's similar to how a bat 492 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: sends out a wave of sonar and listens to what 493 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: bounces back. Okay, in that same way, these fish are 494 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: sending out electrical impulses and uh, and then they're sensing 495 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: what comes back from the environment, and they can even 496 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: determine if a creature below the mud is alive or dead. Now, 497 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: the second group is called the strongly electric fish, and 498 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: they're only a handful of those. That's where we get 499 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: into the electric knife fish, which is what we commonly 500 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: call the electric eel. That is the most powerful of 501 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: the strongly electric fish. It has organs electrical organs all 502 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: up and down its body. These are just cells, organic cells, 503 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: and it uses the fields that it produces for the 504 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: same reasons as the weekly electric fish, the sense its environment, 505 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: et cetera. But it can also turn on the booster 506 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: when it wants and deliver a serious shock. Now again, 507 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: how exactly do these organs work? No one knows. We 508 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: can describe how they work, but we can't really tell you. 509 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: Um let me put it this way. We can describe 510 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: how they work, but we can't really tell you how 511 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: they work. Does that makes sense? We can observe it 512 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: and say here's a description of what I'm seeing, but 513 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly how that happens. And also, nobody 514 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: can explain why does an electric ill not shock itself. 515 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: That is a mystery. No scientist has ever explained. Why 516 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: is it that an electric ill does not shock itself, 517 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 1: no one knows. So they can zap a fish several 518 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: feet away without any physical contact by shooting over six 519 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: volts into the water to stun the fish. Now that 520 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: alone is extremely weird. Since this somehow is not being 521 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: shorted out instantly by the water. They can shoot this 522 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: through the water. Then the ill can curl up around 523 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: the prey and use its whole body from head to 524 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: tail to shock its prey to death or certainly dead 525 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: enough to just gobble it down while it's barely alive. 526 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: And listen to this. The strongest voltage ever measured by 527 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: an electric hill was eight hundred and sixty volts. Eight 528 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty volts and enough current to kill a 529 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: human being or something even bigger. Now, the other strongly 530 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: electric fish are the electric catfish. The electric catfish. Read 531 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: up on that one. It can unleash three hundred and 532 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: fifty volts. And then there is the electric ray, which 533 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: can unleash two hundred and twenty vaults. Now do you 534 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: see why this is so amazing and perplexing to me? 535 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: Because you know, electrical forces associated with these creatures remind 536 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: us of the energy that may reside after we even 537 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: die as possibly have. It's by some clearly in effects, 538 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: and this might be relevant for creatures that can regenerate 539 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: missing limbs. You know, a young salamander can grow a 540 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: new leg and around a month is it because there 541 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: is an electrical force that is the mold, and then 542 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: the physical body regenerates back into that shape. Um You know, 543 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: lizards commonly regenerate tales that have been bitten off by predators. Frogs, crayfish, earthworms, 544 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: flat worms all can do this to some extent. Starfish 545 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: can grow an entirely new creature from only a single arm. 546 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: That means you could cut one starfish into five pieces 547 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: to make five entirely new creatures. And biologists are studying 548 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: this because they want to see if they can learn 549 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: about that mind body spirit kind of relationship in order 550 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: to allow humans to regrow limbs in the same way. 551 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: In fact, a human child up to the age of 552 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: eleven can already regenerate and amputated fingertip, and on a 553 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: regular basis, we regenerate to a smaller degree through normal 554 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: healing and replacement of internal body parts like the linings 555 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: of our stomachs and inside our cheeks. So the big 556 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: question is whether or not when animals like starfish and 557 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: lizards regenerate, you know, are the new cells fitting into 558 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: that energy mold that remains even after the physical sections 559 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: are destroyed. Do their bodies provide some kind of an 560 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: etheric blueprint, a ghostly form by which the new limbs 561 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: cells are guided. This is just a small number of 562 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: examples regarding what makes animals special. They have powers we 563 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: do not possess us, and if a human did have 564 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: some of these abilities, we would certainly call that person's psychic. 565 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: Because we are all made of the same substance cells. 566 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: The fact that some organisms have these characteristics proves it's 567 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: possible for biological entities to attain seemingly super natural skills. 568 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: It's another example of why we are too egotistical. When 569 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: we come back, I'm gonna share something else with you 570 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: that you might find wondrous and amazing. 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You're listening to the 604 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: new I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a paranormal 605 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now let's get back to Strange Things with 606 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. Welcome back to the final segment of 607 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: this edition of Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 608 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast Network. I am 609 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: your host, Joshua Pete Warren. And do you know that 610 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: last year in marine biologists discovered some micro organisms in 611 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: the South Pacific. They live about two hundred and twenty 612 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: six ft down below the sea floor and they are 613 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: one hundred and one point five million years old? Did 614 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: you hear that micro organisms that are alive they've been 615 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: alive for one hundred and one point five million years, 616 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: longest living life forms ever found. Oh boy, you know what? 617 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: I have so much more to tell you about wonders 618 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: of the Animal Kingdom? Did I still really haven't even 619 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: gotten into the paranormal stuff yet? So yes, considered this 620 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: part one, and the next show is going to be 621 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,959 Speaker 1: part two where I really start digging into the paranormal 622 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: animal stuff. And I just have so much more to 623 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: tell you. This could even go into part three. It's 624 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: fascinating because it shows us what's possible for ourselves as 625 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: as fellow biological organic organisms. Right perhaps. In fact, you know, 626 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: I was interviewed, oh, I'm gonna say a couple of 627 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: years ago by uh, a writer named Isabella with the 628 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: largest paranormal publication in the entire Spanish speaking world. It's 629 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: called an Sarah, which means year one, very high quality publication. 630 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: She contacted me to interview me about pet ghosts and 631 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: animal spirits, and we got into all kinds of interesting 632 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 1: uh subjects, you know, related to the things I'm talking 633 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: about right now, And UH she contacted me earlier this year. 634 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: I guess and said, well, I want to interview you again, 635 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: except this time I want to interview you about ghosts 636 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: of the White House. Um. And the reason I bring 637 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: this up is because this just came out. She just 638 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: sent it to me a couple of days ago. And 639 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: it's not gonna do you much good if you don't 640 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: speak Spanish. I mean I speak enough that I was 641 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: able to read the article. It's an excellent article. But UM, 642 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: I figured, you know what, since this just came out 643 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: and it's fresh on my mind, I've been meaning to 644 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 1: read to you some of my responses that I gave 645 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: her to some questions that you might find interesting, So 646 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: she said, um, and I'm looking at our email exchanges. 647 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: Isabella said, do you think there is real spiritual energy 648 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: accumulated at the White House over the centuries which might 649 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,240 Speaker 1: be responsible for the supposed sightings? And I wrote back, 650 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: the White House has been the focal point of intense 651 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: world events for hundreds of years. There is no doubt 652 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: that impressions of so many charged moments have burned quote 653 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: holographic movies into that block of space time. That area 654 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: is haunted by recordings of past events. That occasionally replay, 655 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: plus those curious souls that decided to stick around for 656 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: a while in the afterlife. And then she asked me, 657 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: what's your opinion about the great number of stories of 658 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: sightings woven around the White House? Are they just a 659 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: concoction of stories merging with reality just folklore? So I wrote, 660 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: a place like the White House will always fuel fantastic rumors. 661 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: And yet among those who were given access to those 662 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 1: grounds have been some of the most rational, trusted world leaders. 663 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: In a high security environment. They are some of the 664 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: best witnesses, people like Winston Churchill, who had nothing to 665 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: gain by admitting to a ghostly encounter inside these sensitive, 666 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: restricted areas. You must also consider the personal sacrifices some 667 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: of the presidents made in that house. Abraham Lincoln's decisions 668 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: cost him his life. Don't you think he'd want to 669 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: hang out for a while to see if the decisions 670 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: he made were ultimately good or bad for the nation 671 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: and the long run. Some say ghosts hang out in 672 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: boring old cemeteries. I think it's much more likely they 673 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: halt the dramatic rooms of the White House, where every 674 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: day unfolds like scenes from an epic life or death 675 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: soap opera. I also referred her to, of course, my 676 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: website Joshua P. Warren dot com, where you can click 677 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: on the Gallery of the Strange and when you do that, 678 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: you will find a section there called, um the White 679 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 1: House Ghost Photo and it's there's a video report there 680 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: and you just check that out. And I told her 681 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: that she could use uh information and images from that, 682 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: and she used that and the report as well. But 683 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: she's a really good writer. So yeah, Isabella Harrens. I 684 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: believe it's how you pronounce your name and um, Isabella 685 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: Harrens and so yeah. If you are somebody who is 686 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: able to at least read Spanish, look up the new 687 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: UH or one of the new issues of Ano Sarah 688 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: and you'll find that article as well as some other things. Uh. 689 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 1: Here is an email I got from Rob in Nevada. 690 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: He said, I want to share something with you. The 691 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: good luck fortune tone that you play is amazing. I 692 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: had what I would consider good luck twice and one 693 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: day listening to that sound clip on the way into work. 694 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: I heard the clip, and then about an hour later, 695 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: my wife sent me a picture of a five dollar 696 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 1: bill that had a raresh serial number. On it, making 697 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: it a trinary note and worth a few more dollars 698 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: than face value. And I thought that was cool and 699 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 1: related to it hearing the sound since I've just started 700 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 1: collecting currency for fun. And then later that day, while 701 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: driving home, I listened to another episode of your show 702 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: and I heard the same sound clip. And that night, 703 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: while at a restaurant waiting to be seated, she was 704 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: playing a Keyno machine and scored a jackpot of eight 705 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: it and thirty two dollars. How amazing was that? Strange? 706 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: How I hear the sound twice in one day and 707 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: this happens. Thank you for introducing it to me. Since 708 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: I am telling everyone about your show and the sound 709 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: and what it has done for me, and I look 710 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: forward to all your upcoming episodes. I wish you the 711 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: same luck that you have brought me. Thank you, Rob. 712 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that another one of those wonderful messages that just 713 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 1: makes my day? And so yes, yes, I will end 714 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 1: the show with the good fortune tone, So get ready 715 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: for that. I almost feel like that nowadays some people 716 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: might be a little ticked if I didn't. And let 717 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: me squeeze in. One more email I got from Joseph 718 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: and he was reflecting on the podcast I did about 719 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:57,240 Speaker 1: the little People. He said, I recall that Thomas Ashley Ferrand, 720 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: whose books and c d s I would recommend to 721 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: anybody interested in learning about sanscrit Mantras wrote of an 722 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: experience he had while attending a presentation about little people. 723 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: The seminar was held in a regular classroom, so the 724 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,439 Speaker 1: presenter was speaking from behind a desk at the front 725 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: of the room. During part of the lecture, Thomas was 726 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: sure that he saw a quote little person appear standing 727 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: on the desk at the front of the room, but 728 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 1: the scenes seemed so impossible that Thomas didn't interrupt the lecture, 729 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: fearing he might be hallucinating after the similar excuse me. 730 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: After the seminar ended, looking around the room, Thomas saw 731 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: confused expressions on many of his fellow attendees, so he 732 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,919 Speaker 1: started asking people whether they had seen anything unusual during 733 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: the lecture, and many of the people he asked confirmed 734 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: that they too had seen a little person standing on 735 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: the desk at the front of the room, but could 736 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 1: not believe what they were seeing, so they didn't say anything. 737 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: So was the little person a teaching assistant or a Tulpa. Anyway, 738 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: the story provides yet another example of one of the 739 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: problems that frustrates research into the paranormal of a few 740 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: people who are open enough to have direct experience of 741 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: the paranormal, but even fewer who are open enough to 742 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: talk about their experiences. But without that data, that information 743 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: about paranormal experiences, how do we refine our hypotheses about 744 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 1: how the paranormal works? Live long and prosper Joe. You're 745 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: darn right, Joe, and thank you for that email. That 746 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: is the point, right, That's why I believe that what's 747 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: happening with the talk of disclosure, with the UFO thing 748 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: and all that right now, regardless of what actually gets released, 749 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: it's still a good thing because it's it's reducing that 750 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: stigma around the subject matter so that more people feel 751 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: comfortable opening up and talking about it. And that's what 752 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 1: we need. Okay, my friends, here it is take a 753 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: deep breath, enjoy the good fortune. Tone. That's it for 754 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,959 Speaker 1: this edition of the show. 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