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Speaker 1: Another episode of Lines and Times on the iHeartRadio Network

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Speaker 1: is going on right now. Thank you everybody who clicks

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Speaker 1: like and subscribe follows along. We try to bring you

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Speaker 1: the most formative people that we find, especially in hunting

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Speaker 1: and fishing. Marshall, do you do any hunting or are

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Speaker 1: you just a fisherman mainly fishing?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not opposed to it, but I mainly

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Speaker 2: only have public land to go to, and that's a

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Speaker 2: train wreck.

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Speaker 1: That's like the biggest problem with hunting is the fact

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Speaker 1: that you can hardly find land to go to. You

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Speaker 1: got to know a property owner and get out there.

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Speaker 1: Also joining me as Daniel Vasquez. He was a top

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Speaker 1: ten co angler for the bass Master Opens until they

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Speaker 1: shuttered the program. The man bought a house in Alabama

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Speaker 1: and then found out that the program was not happening.

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Speaker 1: So congrats on moving from Florida up to Alabama to

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Speaker 1: find out that info. Dana.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're here though. We love Alabama, so it's all good.

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Speaker 1: This has been a really cool situation for you moving

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Speaker 1: up here and then finding out all about these Alabama

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Speaker 1: lakes completely different than what you're used to fishing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really it's been really fun. Catching spot of

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Speaker 4: find out a little bit more about these Southern large

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Speaker 4: mouth But Marshall and I were just talking about some

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Speaker 4: shoal bass. I'm really interested to hear something about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm never finding those on rivers. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: find those in most of the lakes here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're only native to the Flint the Chattahoochee and

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Speaker 2: they have been introduced with the olk Moulgi. They're not

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Speaker 2: native there. But if you take a shoal bass put

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Speaker 2: it in a lake, it'll die. It has to have

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the biggest problems is a lot

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Speaker 1: of these lakes. And I say problem, it's not really

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Speaker 1: a problem. But one of the biggest reasons why they

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Speaker 1: the bottom of all these river systems which came out

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Speaker 1: in the sixties for them to conserve water and also

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Speaker 1: systematically move water throughout the country. Can you imagine what

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Speaker 1: flooding would be like in the South had we not

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Speaker 1: put these dams in place in the sixties.

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Speaker 3: Right, do you think there'd still be water that through

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Speaker 3: these rivers, though.

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Speaker 1: I think there'd be water. But that's actually a really

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Speaker 1: interesting point. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the thing in the sixties.

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Speaker 1: So what was happening in the sixties where they made

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Speaker 1: that decision, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at all these dams, they're old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like well, I mean there's pros and cons because

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Speaker 2: now we have so much concrete and asphalt and all

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Speaker 2: the all the drains are routed to the rivers. So

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Speaker 2: I mean the river does get a lot of dumpage

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Speaker 1: Have you guys ever seen those maps where it shows

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Speaker 1: all the waterways in the United States. It's insane how

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Speaker 1: much water is inside the continental units. Oh yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if it does have to flow from somewhere, I would

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Speaker 1: assume that we draw enough water out of Canada to

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Speaker 1: Well maybe maybe Canada's just holding onto all the water

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Speaker 1: and they just don't want to give up any of it.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned his name was Marshall, A lot of people

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Speaker 1: know you as Georgia bass Master on social media. When

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Speaker 1: did that all start for you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? About five years ago. It was just a thing

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Speaker 2: where my friend was like, hey, why don't you start filming,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I bought a GoPro and was just

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Speaker 2: using my iPhone just to kind of capture my catches,

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Speaker 2: not to start a YouTube channel or to be a

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Speaker 2: social media influencer. It was just mainly just to document

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Speaker 1: Did it start out on YouTube or were you one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I started out on YouTube. I was pretty late

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Speaker 1: But so when you started out on YouTube, your whole

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Speaker 1: idea was I'm just going to document me going out

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Speaker 1: douchey where your buddy was like, hey, start filming yourself

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Speaker 1: and put these catches up, or where you kind of like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll jump in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was mainly just to prove the

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Speaker 2: everybody's like, you didn't catch those fish.

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Speaker 1: So they were calling you out, so you wanted to

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Speaker 1: back it up and show right, no, I'm actually doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to film it, and like, especially when

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Speaker 2: you'd catch and release, you'd take a photo of five

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna upload the footage.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're an influencer, Marshall. Who influences you? Who

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Speaker 3: do you watch?

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Speaker 2: Well? I have? I have a couple of unpopular guys.

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Speaker 2: I really I really love Millican to death. As many

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Speaker 2: people hate that guy.

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Speaker 1: Why do they hate Millican?

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Speaker 2: I think just because he catches big fish and he

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Speaker 2: uses life scope. They just hate his guts. But I

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Speaker 2: learn a lot from watching that guy's videos. I'll try

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Speaker 2: some of the tips he puts out and it works

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 1: So have you met him?

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Speaker 2: I've never met him?

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Speaker 1: No? Would you? Would you? Fanboy? If you did? No,

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Speaker 1: because you'd be like, keep it cool, I stay cool.

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Speaker 3: I got he knows Marshall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I got to hang out with Bill Dance, like

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Speaker 2: four different times, so like that was my biggest icon ever.

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Speaker 1: What was it? What was it like the first time

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Speaker 2: That was the biggest fanboy moment in my life.

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Speaker 1: So what happened?

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Speaker 2: I was? It was the bass Master Classic twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 1: And I won in the one in Tennessee. Yeah, in Knoxville, Yes,

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Speaker 2: And I didn't even know he was going to be

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Speaker 2: I was at a sponsored lunch before the Classic and

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Speaker 2: and They're like, oh, by the way, Bill Dance is here,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Was that the lunch where they had the Tennessee hats

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Speaker 1: out and he had signed them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I got to sit down and like literally sit

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Speaker 2: next to Bill at lunch talk to him for like

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Speaker 2: two hours. We talked about everything under the sun, fishing.

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Speaker 2: He was telling me all his crazy fishing stories. And

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Speaker 2: then every time I've ever seen him after that since

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he'll recognized me and say hey, So,

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Speaker 2: like I feel like if I can meet Bill Dance

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Speaker 1: What was your standout story for meeting Bill Dance? What

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Speaker 1: do you remember the most.

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Speaker 2: That guy is? He goes one hundred miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: He's eighty seven or eighty eight years old, and he's

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Speaker 2: still fishing almost every single day of his life.

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Speaker 1: Isn't insane that he's never won a bass Master Classic?

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Speaker 2: It's crazy?

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Speaker 1: And he is by far the most well known name

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Speaker 1: in fishing. Has to be over over his career, right,

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Speaker 1: So he goes so much, like so hard, so fast,

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Speaker 1: how do you do it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean he does not take a break at all.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he does it as old as

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Speaker 1: So those are the two big influences or are their others?

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Speaker 1: Your dad's obviously one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean surprisingly, you'd probably be a shock. I

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Speaker 2: don't watch a lot of fishing stuff, but I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are mainly the guys I watch when I watch,

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Speaker 2: you know, fishing related whips.

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Speaker 1: So in your fishing career, who are the people that

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Speaker 1: truly influence you? He asks you, like who you watch

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Speaker 2: Oh, Like I said, it was definitely Bill Dance. We

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Speaker 2: had a Spinner bay a to Z on VHS and

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Speaker 2: I'd watched that thing. Fords and burn tape out. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I had the ABC's of worm Fishing and all his tapes.

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Speaker 2: I mean I watched everything when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: Where did you go with the whole Rolling Martin thing

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Speaker 2: I was never really big into watching rolling For some reason,

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Speaker 2: he just never resonated with me. I think I was

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Speaker 2: more of the goofy kid, and like seeing Bill Dance

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Speaker 2: fall off his boat all the time, that's.

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Speaker 1: It, right, Like it's the bloopers of Bill Dance.

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Speaker 2: It's it's You're more relatable than just seeing somebody.

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Speaker 1: They gets so serious.

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Speaker 2: He's just like lighthearted and he's having fun, and like,

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Speaker 2: that's what I want to do when I fish, Like,

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Speaker 2: I just want to have fun and go catch fish.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see where you go, man, because honestly,

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Speaker 1: I've always appreciated what you've been doing for the fishing community.

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Speaker 1: You and I have become friends over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, and I think you're reaching an audience that

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Speaker 1: has been underserved. You know. It's it's the guys who,

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Speaker 1: just like you talked about, they don't have the one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars bass boat. They can't spend sixty thousand

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Speaker 1: thing is if I get my kid out to a

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Speaker 1: reel like you and your dad were buying a flea markets.

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Speaker 1: I just want them to know and have an idea

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Speaker 1: what they can do. I introduced my nephews to your

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Speaker 1: channel by saying, hey, look when Uncle Spence isn't up there,

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Speaker 1: I want you to still have that fire and passion

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Speaker 1: for fishing. This is a good guy to watch because

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Speaker 1: you're already doing the legwork. So thank you for doing that,

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Speaker 1: you Marshall Georgia bass Master. You can find them all

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Speaker 1: over social media. This is lines and times we want

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Speaker 1: you to click like and subscribe At the bottom. You

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Speaker 1: know how were who was that guy in California, Daniel

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Speaker 1: that went out and made like a crazy name for

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Speaker 1: himself filming big bass catches and then it came out

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Speaker 1: that he was cheating.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was snagging him, right, hes Mike Long, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you know, everybody was like this guy catches

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Speaker 1: giants and he brings him in. But he was doing

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Speaker 1: it well and effective, but an unauthorized method. So you

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Speaker 1: were worried that people were trying to like kind of

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Speaker 1: to catch the fish that you catch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mainly that was part of it.

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Speaker 1: We've had some really good guys that have jumped on here,

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Speaker 2: Well, I really got into kayaks to really you know,

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's He's an actual big reason

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Speaker 2: They love crawlfish, They love helgrimites that they eat on

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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. I feel like some of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right on that, which makes them a

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Speaker 1: Right, and you can trick them a lot easier too.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that would be kind of the key

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're looking for one big bite and that's

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Speaker 2: And anything in the river fights harder anyways, because they,

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Speaker 1: How hard is it for you to fish a river

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Speaker 2: Oh? It's it's extremely hard, which also means it's extremely

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Speaker 1: Are you having to like upgrade your line to make

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Speaker 2: I have some buddies that'll throw eight pound test. I

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Speaker 2: I just don't want them to break off those big

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Speaker 1: Daniel, you fished a lot on Okuchobee, heavy grass, heavy vegetation.

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Speaker 4: Uh, that's a good question. Okachobe. Okachobe's kind of weird.

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Speaker 4: Okuchobe's kind of one of those places where you can

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Speaker 1: But the idea of doing a drop shot.

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Speaker 4: But the idea, yeah, drop shot, I mean guys, some

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Speaker 4: So it's when you're drop shotting, they make these little

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Speaker 1: I mean normally some guy drop shot and you're doing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some guys will put it straight on braid with

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Speaker 1: That's what's so wild about fishing these different lakes in

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Speaker 1: And there are guys where I fished with a buddy

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Speaker 2: Marshall, Like you said, it all depends on the lake,

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Speaker 1: One of the things that stood out with Marshall over

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Speaker 1: You just didn't take that as a negative altercation. You

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Speaker 2: Well? I'd encourage everybody listening to look up Senate Bill

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Speaker 1: Now to Georgia State Senate bill.

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Speaker 2: It's a Georgia State Senate bill. It could be coming

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Speaker 2: But basically what it says is if the owner can

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Speaker 2: the kayak, er step out of the boat, you can fish.

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00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 2: But now with this new bill, it's you know, they're

441
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 2: trying to get it to where you still you can't

442
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 2: fish at all.

443
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: So where did it come from?

444
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 2: Well?

445
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 1: Is that bill new or was it introduced recently?

446
00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty new the land on from what I

447
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 2: was told are Buddy Buddy with Brian Kemp, they had

448
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 2: a behind the doors closed meetings, signed some bills into

449
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: law that a lot of people didn't know about. So

450
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: it's a pretty newer bill in the past like.

451
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: Two years that area that you were fishing. Is that

452
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: like a honey hoole kind of deal?

453
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: It is, because, I mean, another cool thing about shoal bass.

454
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 2: Biologists have tagged them and they'll swim one hundred and

455
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 2: fifty miles from the mouth of Lake Blackshear all the

456
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 2: way to spawn up at those shoals on the Flint

457
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: River fifty miles. They'll swim one hundred and fifty miles,

458
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,959
Speaker 2: almost like a trout. They'll spawn, they'll drop their eggs

459
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: and they'll swim right back down river. So this guy,

460
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: where he's owning all this property is just like the

461
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 2: spawning honey hole ground.

462
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: What's relationship with this guy now?

463
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him since, but I've been on

464
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: the river a few times. I've been trying to run

465
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: back into him. I haven't seen him. The neighbors across

466
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: the road from him, they have told me not to

467
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 2: fish kind of more nicely.

468
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, because this guy came at you in a

469
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: pretty right, pretty wild.

470
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: And he grabbed my kayak and basically held me hostage

471
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 2: right there and told me I couldn't fish.

472
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: So what happened that day when he held your kayak?

473
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: Do you call nine to one one or a game

474
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 1: warden or whoever?

475
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: No, we were I was pre fishing for a kayak

476
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: tournament and I was just like, I'm going to post

477
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: this clip up because I thought it was crazy and

478
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it to go viral or anything. But

479
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: within just a couple hours it was in the millions.

480
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: So then WSBTV Channel two got ahold of it, and

481
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: then they wanted to run a story on it. So

482
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: it really worked out better that way because it got

483
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: a lot of attention on what's going on.

484
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little shocked. I mean, I lived

485
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: in Georgia before I moved to Alabama, and I've always

486
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: saw that Georgia is a really sportsman forward and sportsman's

487
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: first kind of state. And I've met Brian Kemp a

488
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 1: handful of times, and I know a lot of groups

489
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: that are involved. Actually, I've got a buddy of mine

490
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: who works for the DNR is pretty high up there.

491
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: I would be interested to see where this goes, because

492
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: it's it's disappointing to know that somebody would be able

493
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: to own a portion of water when that water's constantly

494
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: moving and you can't really lay claim to that. It's

495
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: weird that they're saying that has to do with the

496
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: bedrock underneath. Does that water fluctuate to where some parts

497
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: of the or sometimes of the year it's dry there.

498
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: No, the river never runs dry. Obviously. The laws have

499
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: always stated that a normal water levels you're able to fish,

500
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: So I understand when people say.

501
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: Well, what it's a normal water level, though, Well, it's

502
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: just as long as it's water, basically.

503
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess as long as it's water. But

504
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: I understand when the river floods, you shouldn't go on

505
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: somebody's property, which that's a whole different story, but it

506
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: just normal conditions. You should still be able to float

507
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: through there and fish.

508
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't get how that would come

509
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: into play. I actually see it more where if that

510
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: portion of the river, even though water could come through,

511
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: let's say it's like a half inch, right, so it's

512
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: still flowing through, but it's not really fishable, you could

513
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: probably step across it in one easy pace. I could

514
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: see that more saying that's somebody's property, right, But if

515
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: the water's going and you have an actual barrier where

516
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: you're like, we're on water, there's no way you're on land.

517
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: I just don't know how a state would be able

518
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: to say yea to that.

519
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the normal flow rate for that river

520
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: is about nine hundred to eleven hundred cubic feet per second,

521
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: so there's a pretty good large amount of you know,

522
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: volume of water coming through there.

523
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: Do you guys in the rivers have the same argument

524
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: that some of the fishermen have when it comes to lakes,

525
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: where they talk about different technologies or different reasons as

526
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: to why the bass populations are getting.

527
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: So hurt personally, in my opinion, I haven't. I haven't

528
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: seen bass populations go down and the rivers yet. Like

529
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: I said, it's a lot less pressure.

530
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: Fish you catch look really healthy, right, Oh.

531
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always healthy. You never catch, you know, string

532
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: being fish in the river normally.

533
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: Daniel, you've seen these arguments on social media where you know,

534
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 1: you get these anglers and they're live. Scope is killing

535
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: the fish population and it's making our fish look bad

536
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to look at one tournaments. There's too

537
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: much pressure. What would you say is the main reason

538
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: why some people think populations of fish are being hurt.

539
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: It's even tough to think about because I think the

540
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: three of us understand that bass populations across the United

541
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: Statestry not bad at all.

542
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: Bass population back it's probably two. Yeah, they're healthy. Yeah,

543
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 4: because people don't keep bass, that's it. And that's the

544
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: main thing behind it. It's always been promoted as a

545
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: catch and release fishery, so you know, and and some

546
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: lakes do really well because of it, and then some

547
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 4: lakes really struggle because of it. So but I'm really

548
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 4: curious about these shoal bass. I'm gonna have to go

549
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: try to catch me.

550
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: Because I like the I like ray Scott's methodology when

551
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: he started a bass mat and then they started doing

552
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: tournament fishing, and you know, at one point he was like, man,

553
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: if we keep taking seven to ten fish out for

554
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: every angler, we're going to deplete the resource. And he

555
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: probably had really forward thinking. But then when he decided

556
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: to go catch and release. If you guys heard the

557
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: story about what the DNR officer said, basically the commissioner

558
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: of the DNR I think it was in Alabama said

559
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: to him, you're taking those fish out of here, you're

560
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: not throwing them back, And ray Scott was like, watch us,

561
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: and he brought him back down, he put him back in.

562
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: That was like the defiant moment of catching release. But

563
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: the DNR official wasn't wrong. We don't take enough fish

564
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: out of these lakes. Do you see a lot of

565
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: guys fishing the river and they'll take like an actual

566
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: limit and go home.

567
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one thing we do that everyone's

568
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: pretty knowledgeable on is like invasive species in the river.

569
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 2: So like Alabama spotted bass I've been introducing to the flint.

570
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: They're not native to the Chattahoochee river. So they were

571
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: put in a bit.

572
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: Where are they cut coming from?

573
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: People think they're fun to catch, so they stalk the

574
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: lakes full of them, like the old Georgia state record.

575
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: So they'll catch them in Alabama, drive them across straight

576
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: lines and drop them into the floot. Right, So a

577
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: lot of people will it's like fish bootlegging.

578
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: I myself, I'll catch it all the time. I'll catch

579
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: a spotted bass and I'll chunk it up on the bank.

580
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody does it, because they'll just absolutely take

581
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: over are state record. Small mouth that come out of

582
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: Lake Shattou. You can't virtually catch a small mouth out

583
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: of there. They're basically non existent because of the Alabama

584
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: spotted bass population.

585
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: But you have guys on lakes all across the country.

586
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: You say the same thing about stripe bass. You know,

587
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: you introduce stripe bass and all of a sudden they

588
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: eat everything up. The lake I grew up on in Virginia,

589
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: Smith Mountain Lake, it is a striped bass fishery. But

590
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: they introduced f one strain largemouth about ten years ago,

591
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: and now they've got double digit largemouth in the lake. Right,

592
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: they don't have spotted bass kind of Thank God. I

593
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: love fishing for spotted bass because I was fishing on

594
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: Lake Lanear a lot. I think they're fun to catch,

595
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: but I only think they should be in certain lakes. Yeah,

596
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: each fish species.

597
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: Of water, each fish species has their own way that

598
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: they eat right and forage, So mixing to I mean,

599
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: a large amouth is vastly different than a striped bass,

600
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: even just in the way that they relate to structure,

601
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: the way that they live their life. So you know, naturally,

602
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: if you mix two different two fish species together that

603
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: had the same eating habits, the fishery is going to

604
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: be terrible.

605
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Plus the bait that they're targeting in a lot of

606
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: these lakes that have healthy spotted bass or the blue

607
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: back hairing, and those are extremely pelgic, like they act

608
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: completely different than a threadfin shad or something like that.

609
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: I've seen guys go out with cast nets try to

610
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: catch bait and introduce them into other lakes or other

611
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: bodies of water. And I've seen people on social media go, man,

612
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: this lake would be so great if they introduce this

613
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: or if they put this bait in there, and it's like,

614
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: you don't understand. These lakes are awesome. Anyway for what

615
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: they're known for, and we kind of have to leave

616
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: them that way. So you're saying, everybody on the flint,

617
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: they catch a spot and it's up on the bank

618
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: and it's gone.

619
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: They'll have designated days where, you know, fifty people will

620
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: go float and it's called a spotted bass clean up

621
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: day where everybody they'll keep a record of, Hey, how

622
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 2: many spots did you throw out of the river today?

623
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: They'll keep a record of it, because.

624
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: That's a day you got to go over there. They'll

625
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: take you can go over there and catch some spots

626
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: on them of the bank and get a stroll bass

627
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: and be like I'm in heaven.

628
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. But like the native Chattahoochie bass, it's a particular

629
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: red a species we have in Georgia. They're almost extinct

630
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: because spotted bass and on the near you know, they

631
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 2: come down into the river. You virtually can't catch one

632
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: of those anyway.

633
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: And those Kentucky stream large or spot of bass, they're

634
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: insane compared to the Alabama spot of bass size wise.

635
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all up and down the Chattahoochie River,

636
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, because how could you control

637
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: the Chattahoochie with the fact that you've got so much,

638
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: you have so many people going for them on lanear

639
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: and that flows in through the Chattahoochee anyway. But they're massive.

640
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean those spots are hell on wheels and they're

641
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: fun to catch.

642
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: Six pounders, seven pounders.

643
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. I want to get back to the

644
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: social media thing because that's where your name comes up

645
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: the most. Like if we looked up and down tournaments,

646
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: you wouldn't see a lot of people going, oh, look

647
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: there's Marshall Georgia bass master competing in a tournament you

648
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: do with kayaks. But when it came to social media,

649
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: how has it changed your life?

650
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh, it's greatly impacted it. I try to stay humble

651
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: and remember my roots because my dad and I would

652
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: always buy like broken rods from the salvage store and

653
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: fix them. So it used to be a seven foot

654
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: six rod and now it's a six foot two. And

655
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: we were buying used reels from the flea market, and

656
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: I never had a lot of good fishing gear, and

657
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: now you know, growing my social media, I've been sponsored

658
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: by some really good companies like Lose Lose, Strike King

659
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: and like It's really blessed me in the sense of,

660
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: you know, having nice equipment and rods that are actually

661
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: designed for the technique I'm using, like crank bait rods

662
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: and swim bait rods. I never had that. I've always

663
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: had an all purpose rod to throw everything on.

664
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: So every ride you had was a medium heavy.

665
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: Every single rod you're throwing finesse on medium heavy, top

666
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: water medium heavy. I mean it's so it's greatly changed

667
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: in like the way I'm able to fish now, and

668
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: like I have better equipment, better tools, I have electronics,

669
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: I have live scope, so I'm able to like utilize

670
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: all these things that I never really would have had

671
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: the chance to use.

672
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: We'll stay on the social media thing for a minute.

673
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: I do want to divert and I want to talk

674
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: about the live scope. Since you're doing so much river fishing.

675
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Are you using live scope in that application? Are you

676
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: only doing it when you're in a lake?

677
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. I don't really use live scappen the river.

678
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Like I said, most of the places I'm fishing are

679
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 2: like two to three foot deep, and you my opinion,

680
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: you really need at least six foot to use live scope,

681
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: And I don't want to bring three thousand dollars worth

682
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: of electronics out on the river and bust up a

683
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: transducer on the rock.

684
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: You think that's gonna change where live scopes are going

685
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: to be way more effective in shallow water than they

686
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: are right now.

687
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure in ten years time, with how the technology

688
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: is going, it's gonna be everywhere. You're gonna be able

689
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: to scope at a foot of water effectively.

690
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: What do you think is going to change first, the

691
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: ability to see fish more clear in shallow water or

692
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: the image of the fish being more profound? I think both, Yeah,

693
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: I think both simultaneously. Or you think one's going to

694
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: catch a technology other.

695
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: I think the technology is so advanced already that they'll

696
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: be able to have they'll integrate both.

697
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: I remember that fake video, that fake video that came

698
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: out on social media not too long ago, where they

699
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: were talking about this is the new LSV thirty eight,

700
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: and they showed like it looked like a legit fish

701
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: swimming around, and a lot of people were like, dude,

702
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: look how crazy this is. This is such an awesome

703
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: image that's coming out. It's not even close to coming

704
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: out yet, but if it does come out, what's the impact.

705
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, have you seen the marlin guys, This is kind

706
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: of off top. So the way that these marlin, like

707
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: the million dollar Marlin tournaments, Yeah, the way that they're

708
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: winning now.

709
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: Is they have a huge live scope on their boat,

710
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: like on these huge.

711
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Heads they've always had the saltwater train.

712
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm talking huge.

713
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: It's like it's like an LVS like one forty or

714
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: something like that, and it periscopes down into the water.

715
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: It actually periscopes down into the water and they have

716
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: a big, huge TV.

717
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: And they fall.

718
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: They'll find a marlin and they'll follow it until it

719
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: raises to a point where they can tease it. And

720
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: so they'll follow this thing on live scope for one

721
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty miles until it finally to the point

722
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: where they can tease it in the water. Calum Then

723
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: they drop their teasers out as fast as they can.

724
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: Then they hook up with a million dollar marlin.

725
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: How far down is this sing periscope?

726
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: It's I think it goes to like one hundred and

727
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: fifty feet.

728
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: Really insane. Is it like a giant boom?

729
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like sixty five thousand dollars just for the transducer.

730
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Holy shit, it's insane.

731
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: It's insane.

732
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: That's the only time that I think that this could

733
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: that technology could get a little out of hand is

734
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: because before Ray Scott in the whole catch and release thing,

735
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: every time you caught a fish in a tournament, that

736
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: fish died. Like they didn't have, you know, sophisticated live

737
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: wealth systems. They didn't have ways to keep these fish alive. Legit,

738
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: just put them on stringers, brought them up. As the

739
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: benefit was most fishing tournaments turned into a fish fry

740
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: after so you had your family and friends, they all

741
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: came into the way, and then all of a sudden

742
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: you have the fish fry that changed with ketch and release.

743
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Now we're doing more damage to lakes by not getting

744
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: some of the fish out. And the education side is

745
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: another part of it, Like what you were talking about

746
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: Marshall with the spotted bass day where you go down

747
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: and you catch them, you say how many you got?

748
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: That's an education thing, right, like you're also helping the

749
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: body of water, but you're also educating people on the

750
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: process to do it. That then has to catch up

751
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: with all this technology that's getting thrown out there to

752
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: where maybe we should start taking one and a half

753
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: pounders out and guys should know, like every fishing tournament

754
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: if you get one, or every time you go out

755
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: and fun fish with your friends, if you get one

756
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: of these or two of these or whatever, they decide,

757
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: they have to come out and you got to legit

758
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: stick to it. Do we think that'll happen?

759
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: Probably not. I mean, I myself am a big supporter

760
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: of maybe changing the length limits on keeping fish. I

761
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: always thought it's been backwards, like you can keep the

762
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: big ones, but you gotta throw the little ones back.

763
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: I just think there should be a slot limit, keep

764
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: them twelve to fourteen inches or something. Make it a

765
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: very low slot limit, but take as many of them

766
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: out as you can, but leave the big ones that

767
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: are going to reproduce and pass on genetics instead of

768
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, now it's you can keep five seven pounders

769
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: a day if you won't need them.

770
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: It's almost like how people manage deer herds, you know,

771
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: like you want to let your older ones get as

772
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: old as they possibly can before they can't reproduce anymore.

773
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: And then once they can't reproduce, that's when you ethnically

774
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: take them out.

775
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: Right.

776
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: We've heard this from a million people. If it's brown,

777
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: it's down, let them go, let them grow. Everybody has

778
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: these things, but how many people actually stick to that

779
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: and the fishing community is a hard I mean, look,

780
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 1: I don't eat bass. Bass has never been a fish

781
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, I can't wait to get into

782
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: a few. I've also seen some of the bass that

783
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: have been pulled out on the water, and I've seen

784
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: different things based on the water quality that they're in

785
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: where it's not appetizing. Yeah, you know, we caught that

786
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: one calffish, and God, I love fishing with Daniel, but

787
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: if we catch a trash fish, his hispanic side just

788
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: can't leave. It's like he's like, I'm gonna keep that

789
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: in the other life. So dude, we've we've caught some

790
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: cats and he's brought them home and I'll message him

791
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: after I'll go how to taste awful? Terrible? So I

792
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, are you somebody that would eat bass? Marshall?

793
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Is that, ma'am?

794
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: I grew up poor man when you seat bass.

795
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: All the time, So do you still do it?

796
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: No? I don't eat large mouths personally, but spotted bass

797
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: are phenomenal. It tastes just like crappy.

798
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: And you're pulling them out anyway, Oh yeah, trying.

799
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: You will love spotted bass if you ever tried.

800
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: Well, what is it about a spoder bass?

801
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: It's just the cleaner, wider meat. It's just more flaky's.

802
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't like a fish tasting fish. That's why I

803
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: like crappy and spotted bass tastes.

804
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Just like, are you breading them or do you just.

805
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: I'll blacken them, I'll grill them, I'll put them in

806
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: the oven. Oh man, black and spotted bass. Oh boy,

807
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 2: that's good.

808
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: But it sounds like it sounds like like the ones

809
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: that you would be catching. They're in better water quality

810
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: than you know akusa. Yeah, we hear stuff all the

811
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: time where it's like, dude, if you catch fish out

812
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: of the kusa, that thing's gonna get you sick just

813
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: looking at it, right, you know what I mean? Like it.

814
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: I still have yet to find a moment where I'm like, yeah,

815
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: that sounds really appealing and I can't wait to do that.

816
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: You made it sound pretty close. I mean you were

817
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: like ninety percent of.

818
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: The way of getting me there, lipsmacking.

819
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I maybe I do have to try, all right,

820
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the social media side.

821
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: You start your YouTube, you start your social media platforms

822
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: five years ago. Your life is obviously changed because now

823
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: you have sponsorships and all that kind of stuff. How

824
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: do you stay humble with that kind of stuff? How

825
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: do you keep your roots?

826
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: I mean, my wife helps me with that. But like

827
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: I say, I always.

828
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: Do smacky in the head, like to get a little

829
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: too big.

830
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: To get a little too big, She'll say it. You know,

831
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: you started from nothing, so but I'm pretty good about

832
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, remembering where I came from. But it's like

833
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: I said, it's drastically changed, like having a little bit

834
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: of an income. It's like a side business now.

835
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: And you know, the coolest thing is weird when you

836
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: had to put it on your taxes for the first time.

837
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you're late, damn. You know. You try

838
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: to write off everything. You know, you make nothing for

839
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: six years, you know what I'm saying. But uh, you know,

840
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: running into like the younger generation, Like I run into

841
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 2: like fifteen year old kids all the time that watch

842
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: my channel, and like they say, I helped them catch

843
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: a fish or I taught them some technique or something.

844
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: So like that's the biggest thing I get out of

845
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: it is really like running into like the next generation

846
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: that's not stuck on a PlayStation or Xbox and they're

847
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: actually like wanting to go out there and fish and

848
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: like get outside. What's your goal for the future, then, Oh,

849
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: that's that's my main goal. It's it's really to just educate,

850
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 2: especially like on these species that I that I target,

851
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: Like I do normally every year, I do like a

852
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: ten or twelve parts series on all the bass species

853
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: in Georgia and where to find them and what things

854
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: are invasive. And I teach people like how to catch bass,

855
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: hearing the spawn, post spawn, summer, all the months, and

856
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: I really just want to like educate and like make

857
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: a better generation of fishermen.

858
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: Are you thinking kind of like the show that a

859
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: lot of us grew up on, like Bill Dance Outdoors. Yeah,

860
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: and how Bill Dance is doing And think platform is

861
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: different because you have it on YouTube, right, that's just

862
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: where everybody's watching content now. Is that your goal like

863
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: kind of just be that guy you want to be

864
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: the voice for the generation of YouTube fishermen to come

865
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: up with her.

866
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love that. And you know, like a lot

867
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: of YouTubers are just obviously drama gets the clicks and

868
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: you know, provoking people, and like, I really just want

869
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: to be the guy that is more like the Bill

870
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: Dance Stall. Yeah, that everybody can just sit down with

871
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: their family and watch.

872
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: You know, how are you going to branch out of

873
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: just being just Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Well, I meant to say that at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the podcast. I never called myself the Georgia bass Master.

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Speaker 2: It was more of an insult that everybody was calling me, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: here comes the bass Master, like make it money. So

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Speaker 2: I named my channel name though, and then about a

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Speaker 2: year or so into it, I asked everybody. I was like,

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Speaker 2: should I change my name to Fishing with Marshall because

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Speaker 2: you know everybody's you know, channel name something along those lines.

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Speaker 2: And they're like, it's too late, man, You've already made

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Speaker 2: it a brand. Like you're just gonna have to stick

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Speaker 2: with it. Everybody knows you as that now.

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Speaker 1: I think Georgia bass Master is fine for you to do.

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Speaker 1: My only worry is that it limits you to Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I think the only thing that you could truly do

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Speaker 1: is you can keep the name. You can keep that brand,

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Speaker 1: you can keep it going, but you got to go

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Speaker 1: on the road, like you've got to start going to

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Speaker 1: different fisheries and go up north to Saint Clair, go

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Speaker 1: to New York. Can you check out?

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Speaker 2: I usually go to the Saint Claire once a year.

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Speaker 1: Oh do you so? Are you putting a lot of

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Speaker 1: that stuff on your channel too?

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 1: See. That's brilliant because that's how you can now branch

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Speaker 1: out to other places. I think the one part in

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Speaker 1: the United States that's continuously left out of the conversation

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Speaker 1: and it needs to be brought back into the conversation

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Speaker 1: is guys fishing the California Delta because the fish that

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Speaker 1: they get out of there, they're pretty good, they're pretty

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Speaker 1: decent fish. But nobody in the East even talks about

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Speaker 1: what's happening out west. And then there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: places that just don't have water. So we got to

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Speaker 1: try to figure out how we can do that. Marshall,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for spending a couple minutes

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Speaker 1: with us. If you want to fall along with Marshall's story.

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Speaker 1: Georgia bass Master on every social media he certainly keeps

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Speaker 1: everybody up to day with what he's doing on the water.

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what's going to happen with that

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Speaker 1: Georgia State Senate bill over the next couple months. And

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Speaker 1: it was cool to hear about an influencer, what that

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Speaker 1: life is really like and how do sponsors react to

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Speaker 1: influencers compared to professional fishermen. If you like this episode,

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Speaker 1: I encourage you to listen to the others. You'll learn

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Speaker 1: something about the outdoors. This is Lines in Time. I'm

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Speaker 1: Spencer Graves. That's Daniel Vasquez. Click like and subscribe. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys soon.