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We head to Charlotte, where 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford was leading the l R i Am into 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: a show up and win game. 42 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: At least that was a theory going in. You show 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: up and you win. 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: The Ram Bandwagon stopping in North Carolina, to play the 45 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: lowly Panthers and the inconsistent, often terrible Bryce Young at quarterback. 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: There that was the match. I don't know if you 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: watch this game or not. It was regional coverage. Most 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: people these days have access to different ways to watch games. 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: Some of them legal, some of them not so much. 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: All right, so you didn't see this, perhaps not As 51 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: you missed this game, someone named Chris Jackson. 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: That's kind of a generic name. 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Chris Jackson returned in interception forty eight yards. He plays 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: for the team from North Carolina for a touchdown, and 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: the Panthers ended up forcing not one, not two, but 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: three Matthew Stafford turnovers and they get. 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: One at the end. 58 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: By the way, oh my god, the Rams were in 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: field goal range to tie the game late in the 60 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: game and numbnots Stafford fumbles the ball away thirty one 61 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: to twenty eight the final as the Panthers are and 62 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: get the upset when that is their Super Bowl congratulations. 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Greatest moment in Carolina Panther history, that pathetic sad sack 64 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: franchise beating the Rams a regular season win the biggest 65 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: moment I'm convinced, based on a quick look at my 66 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: email in the history of that pathetic franchise. 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: I'm honored. 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm honored that beating the Rams in a regular season 69 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: game is the greatest accomplishment the team's ever had. Somewhere, 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Jake de Lolmes at a horse track. 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: Said, what about me? 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh, come on, we were in the Super Bowl, okay, 73 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: but a better story is in the losing locker room. 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, who entered the game with a league high 75 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: thirty touchdown passes, including eighteen in the past five games, 76 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: and he was facing a Carolina defense that did not 77 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: have their starting cornerback jac Horne. He was out with 78 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: the injury. The starting safety got suspended for a little 79 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: shot to the nuts of a forty nine er player, 80 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: and you had. 81 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: A short week. 82 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: The Panthers got their ass kicked playing the Niners on 83 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Monday night on the West Coast. 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: And that's why they play the games. 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: It's also a good jumping off point, so let us 86 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: discuss the question who gets the blame? Who gets the 87 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: blame for Sean mcvay's Rams losing to Carolina in a 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: game where they gave that game. Carolina win the game 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: and the game was gifted by the Rams so I've 90 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: got financial advice, hot air balloon, and toys r us 91 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: and we will combine all of these things together, and 92 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: we are going to create some marginal overnight talk radios. 93 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: What we're gonna do together, That's what we're gonna do. 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: And we'll also make some brisket on the side. We'll 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: cook some brisket in the smoker. We'll put it in 96 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: a smoker. We'll cook it for like two days. That'll 97 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: be the way we do it, all right, So a 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: any way you slice it, literally, any way you slice it. 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: This was a clunker from the Rams. It was not 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: some kind of masterpiece by Carolina. We'll call it for 101 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: the Rams on the road. It was the Carolina clunker. 102 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: A game with so many unforced errors it should have 103 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: had some kind of parental advisory on it. He's self 104 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: inflicted ruins. Sean Bavay's Rams were being celebrated all week 105 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: to toast of the NFL. The Rams a team to beat. 106 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, SLAA, Yes it was. Everyone went to 107 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: seven to eleven, ordered a Ram slurpye. They were slipping 108 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: all over the Rams. How great the Rams were. And 109 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: then they had to go out and play game and 110 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: they did not did not rise to the occasion at 111 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: all in this game, as the Rams responded by playing 112 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: like a bunch of stumblebums in shoulder pads in this 113 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: particular matchup here now right in front of the line, 114 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: play the blame game right in front. Obviously, Matthew Stafford, 115 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: he sucked at a time you cannot suck. Here he 116 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: played a game of whack a mole with the football, 117 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: which generally speaking not. 118 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: A great idea. But what do you know, You're just 119 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: do the overnut show. 120 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just saying three turnovers. There were misthrows, 121 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: the body language of a man who realized that his 122 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: GPS was broken and he was stuck on a dark 123 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: highway out in the country somewhere, and he's like, I 124 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing here, Stafford. This was a 125 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: roller coaster performance by Stafford. It did have a few 126 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: nice scenic views there where he found Devonte Adams for 127 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns and then boom goes the dynamite for Matthew Stafford 128 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: upside down. 129 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: Losing your lunch. 130 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: All of that, however, now the Simpleton way is just 131 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: to merely blame Matthew Stafford, and while he certainly gets 132 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: the in this case, Lions sharees Lion's share of the blame. However, 133 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Chris Shula, who was also getting hyped up as a 134 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: future NFL head coach and likely will be a future 135 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: head coach because of nepotism. So Chris Sula's group the 136 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: He's the defensive coordinator for the Rams. They lacked a 137 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: sense of urgency, like they looked like they were running 138 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: for stretchers in that game, like they were running an oatmeal, 139 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: which I don't know that you want to run through oatmeal. 140 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't recommend it, and just heavy footed on defense 141 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: and messing up. I'm blundering and bumbling and all those things. 142 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: A sloppy tackling. And though the weather wasn't perfect, well, 143 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the weather's not always. 144 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: Going to be perfect. 145 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: And down the line right now the Chicago Bears, because 146 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: the Rams lost, the Bears of the number one seed 147 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: in the NFC, which I would think Soldier Field. I 148 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: know as a kid, I'm old, and so I did 149 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: see the Bears play home games in Soldier Field and 150 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: the weather sucked and that was part of the deal. 151 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: So you're gonna if. 152 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: You have to go there, or go to Philadelphia on 153 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: the road. You're gonna be playing in bad weather and 154 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: just sloppy. Tackling was damp and rainy and cold and 155 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: Charlotte and it's like they had covered their hands and 156 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Carolina barbecue saw us and slipping through tackles and whatnot 157 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: there and not one forced turn up. You're playing one 158 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: of the great stiffs of all time. Bryce youngk we 159 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: all agree, everyone agrees, everyone this guy sucks. And you 160 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: couldn't turn the ball over one time from Carolina, not 161 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: one forced fumble, not one interception playing Bryce Young. Bryce Young, 162 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: who if you look at the says, oh yeah, some 163 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: good stats in the game. 164 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 165 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: But if you watch the game, it's Bryce Young's not 166 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: the guy to beat the Rams. 167 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: He's not. 168 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: He checked them into a nice hotel, went to a 169 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: nice hotel there, thanked them at checkout, got a nice 170 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: gift basket from the Rams of the Carolina team, got 171 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: turnovers and all that stuff. 172 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: To me, though you. 173 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Mentioned the defense being bad, Stafford was terrible. That fumble 174 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: game would have gone to overtime, would have kicked a 175 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: field goal there. Who knows what happens. Most likely after 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: that However, ifs and butts were candy nuts. The biggest 177 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: issue here, and this is something that you look, Stafford's 178 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. 179 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about Matthew Stafford. 180 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: However, I am concerned about a Cinderella story. On defense, 181 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: the Rams picked up a player named Emmanuel Forbes Washington, 182 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: who was a first round pick who got released because 183 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: of incompetence with the team formerly known as the Redskins. 184 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: And they're using that financial advice from Emmanuel Forbes. And 185 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: he had been fine. I wouldn't say great, he'd been 186 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: fine or good or whatever. But now this guy turned 187 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: into a human ATM machine. Guys were getting cash right 188 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: and left for Carolina in this game and burned for 189 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: a thirty three yard touchdown, roasted again for a forty 190 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: three yard touchdown. 191 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: It's to Emmanuel Forbes, who goofed. 192 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: I've got to know and the Panthers you'll be a 193 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: running back combination Chuba Hubbard and Rico Dowdell. They were 194 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: not explosive in this game, but it was death by 195 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: a thousand paper cuts for Carolina. Mcveay's magic did not work. Clearly, 196 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: only works when the weather's okay, not in the rain 197 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: didn't really work there. So the Rams they gave that 198 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: game away. You are crowing the crowd their ass, but 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: they gave that game away, is what they did now 200 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: turning the page, but not very far so the envy 201 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: The question on this one, does this stinker of a 202 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: performance by Matthew Stafford, the lack of performance in Carolina? 203 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Does this now put the kibosh on the Matthew Stafford 204 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: MVP campaign? 205 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: Is that it now the the MVP race. 206 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: I went up to a I went onto a plane 207 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: and I went like thirty thousand feet up. I looked down, 208 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: so I'm looking down from thirty thousand feet the MVP 209 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: race went from Stafford in the pole position to the 210 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: pothole position based on that performance there for Stafford. Here 211 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: the Rams who entered Carolina, as we said, think it 212 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: was a toast of the NFL when you was slurping 213 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: all over them and Stafford was in the lead MVP 214 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: highlights all over the place, and suddenly he's in the 215 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: car there. The backup camera now turned on there and 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: the bandwagon is now reversing. So they're now going backwards 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: on the Stafford MVP bandwagon and they're going down a 218 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: one way street backwards. It's not recommended there, so it's 219 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: not listen, it's not a kill shot. It's certainly not 220 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: a kill shot. If you think that you're just a 221 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: troll and a loser and a punk and a scumbag, 222 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: it's not a kill shot. However, think of it like 223 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: a hot air balloon, and the balloon's start and go 224 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: down a little bit. You might want to, you know, 225 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: get that fire cranked up because it's not going very well. 226 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: Now. 227 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: If you look at Stafford, let's hit before I get 228 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: into more, let's hear from Matthew staff Here's Matthew Stafford, 229 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: who sucked at a time you cannot suck for the 230 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Rams here and all those mistakes. 231 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: What do you gotta say for yourself, Stafford? 232 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: I mean the first one, I'm playing that play the 233 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 5: exact same they did, and I shall get their hands 234 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: up tipball. I mean, that's you know, it's the name 235 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 5: of the game. It's you gotta you know, play aggressive. 236 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 5: And that's fine. Second one, obviously, I can't leave that 237 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: ball inside. Got in a nice plays, made a bunch 238 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 5: of good plays this year, but can't leave that one 239 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: inside and give them seven on that one, so that's tough, 240 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 5: and then find a way to hold onto that last 241 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 5: one because we're in. 242 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: Field goal range. 243 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: You know, I'll give us a chance to tie that 244 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 5: thing up and play defense. So obviously we're not gonna 245 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 5: win a whole lot of games. I turned it over 246 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: three times and hasn't been an issue, and don't expect 247 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 5: it to be moving forward. Just continue to trust my fundamentals, 248 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: go out there and play, and you know know that 249 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: I'm doing all the stuff I can to make sure 250 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 5: that I played a high level and just didn't happen 251 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: for me today. 252 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: So that was a bunch of nonsense. 253 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: But here's the This is a throwback and a reminder 254 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: that that's still somewhere in there. There's still a lot 255 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: of that stuff. It's a throwback edition of Matthew Stafford. 256 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Like someone dug up the old Lions NFL Films sizzle 257 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: reel from like twenty thirteen or something like that and 258 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: just pressed play and there you Go's that's Stafford, the 259 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: pristine record, Gonzo. He did set the record, though, Stafford 260 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: before he started turning the ball over. He set the 261 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: NFL record twenty eight consecutive touchdown passes without an interception. 262 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Bye bye, Tom Brady. Three hundred and seventeen throws, three 263 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen throws over ten weeks without an interception, 264 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: and you can put that right in the shredder. The 265 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: first one was to Nick Scott, who I believe played 266 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: for the Rams in the past. So that was a 267 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: special FedEx delivery right there. Congratulations on that. Stafford signed 268 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: for it. Interception, Boom, there you go. And so again 269 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: the campaign bus here, the campaign bus just blew a tire. 270 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: The Matthew Stafford MVP campaign bus blew a tire. It's 271 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: on the side of the interstate right now. But Stafford survives. 272 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: And the reason he's still very much alive for the 273 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: MVP is because there's nobody else, literally, I mean, who 274 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: else is there. There's no Mahomes meteor shower of touchdowns. 275 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Chiefs just lost to a Cowboys pathetic. There's no Lamar 276 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: laser show, Lamar not really getting or done. The Ravens 277 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: also took it on the chin to the Cincinnati ben Gals, 278 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: and all that talk about Aaron Rodgers revival tour, well 279 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: that's not happening. So Josh Allen Bill's won. He didn't 280 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: play very well, so what do you got by the 281 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: process of elimination? Stafford is still very much in the 282 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: middle of this. And you know, you got to take 283 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: this game as an outlier. Nowf he starts throwing the interceptions 284 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: right and left, the Rams play another divisional game next 285 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: week on the road, then we'll see is the opening 286 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: credits of a decline documentary? And if not, if not, 287 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: if this is just a one off, then you're fine. 288 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: Carolina is a middle of the pack team and that's it. 289 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: They're not a heavyweight. And you know that the way 290 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: they celebrated beating the Rams on the great wins in 291 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: franchise history, pathetic franchise, that is. Meanwhile, in Foxborough, you 292 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: talk about the MVP race. You look tonight Patriots quarterback 293 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: Drake May He has a pedestal for himself there as 294 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: the Patsy's play Monday Night Island game, last game. 295 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: Of the weekend. 296 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: The Giants and the patron Now, Jacks are not a 297 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: good team. The Jets are not a good team. 298 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: We all know that. 299 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: However, everyone will be watching. There's nothing else you can't watch. 300 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: The NBA's unwatchable, there's nothing else to watch. We'll all 301 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: be watching we like sports, We're gonna be watching that game. 302 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: So Drake May's got a shot to jump up a 303 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: couple of rungs in the MVP race. 304 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: Here climb the ladder as. 305 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: Stafford stalls and kind of goes back down. There's a 306 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: flat tire there for Stafford. Now the MVP pole position 307 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: I believe still open. I was skeptical of Stafford, then 308 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I came, I came around to him, and now I'm 309 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: skeptical again. 310 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: But there's traffic ahead. 311 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: There's plenty of traffic ahead, and there's the home stretch 312 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: of the NFL season where this MVP will be won. 313 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: It's competitive, which is a nice way of saying there's 314 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: nobody really that great. 315 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: That's the way we can say it now. 316 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Sunday Night Football, normally we get super sexy matchups, 317 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: really hot matchups, real real, just tremendous game, primetime, most 318 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: important game of the weekend Sunday night. Not this weekend 319 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. You had a mismatch the Broncos, a 320 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: big road favorite, six point road favorites against the low 321 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: the Commanders and a bunch of backups playing. This game 322 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: actually went the overtime, though, how embarrassing for the Broncos. 323 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: They had to go overtime against the Washington Commanders for 324 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: God's sakes, and Denver was The game came down to 325 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: a two point conversion in overtime with just little time 326 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: left on the clock. The Washington Commanders matriculated the ball. 327 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: Denver scored first, they scored a touchdown, and then Commanders 328 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: came back, drove the ball down the field. They thought 329 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: they had scored a touchdown, there was a penalty. Then 330 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: they did score a touchdown, and then you make the call. 331 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's like, hey, we suck. Let's go for two. 332 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: That's what bad teams do. Go for two. 333 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: Why not, don't play for the tie? Go for two? 334 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 4: I liked it. Why not? It's fun in the game 335 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: right there, it's overtime. What do you got to lose? 336 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: And the Broncos the play of the day the linebacker 337 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: Nick Benito El Micho as he came in there, batted 338 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: down a Marcus Mariota pass on the receiver the running 339 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: back at the back. 340 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: Wide open for the Commanders. If the pass, if. 341 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: You throw it high like one of those those silly 342 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: shadow throws, like when I used to play basketball back 343 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: in the day, you try to put the arc way 344 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: up in there, and if Mariota had been able to 345 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: do that, the Commanders win the game by a point 346 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: because they went for two instead. Now the Broncos have 347 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: won nine straight as Benito, with the Nito play of 348 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: the day, blocked the pass. 349 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: By Mariota into the ground. That was it game over. 350 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: So question should Sean Payton's Broncos be feeling good with 351 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: the overtime victory or be concerned that they struggled to 352 00:18:52,760 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: beat a pathetic, ridiculously bad Washington team. So after a 353 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: minute long Mallard deliberation, we have determined that we don't 354 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: want to confuse a pulse with a powerhouse. This Bronco 355 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: team has a record that would indicate they're a powerhouse. 356 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: They just don't pass the powerhouse test. 357 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: They don't. And that wasn't any kind of a statement game. 358 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: You were favored on the road. 359 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: If you had stopped the Commanders, you would have actually 360 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: covered the spread in overtime. 361 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 4: I had Washington. 362 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: If you watched Benny versus the Penny this weekend on YouTube, 363 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: you know I took Watchum they're happy about that that 364 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: the game did come down to a two point conversion 365 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: at the end. But nonetheless, listen, this was an ant 366 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: acid alert for the Broncos. 367 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: Here. 368 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: The Broncos have zero fear factor and that might not 369 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: matter in the end and all that stuff, but I'm 370 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: just telling you where they are right now. There's no 371 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: fear factor playing the Denver Broncos. Washington coming in this 372 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: game was three and eight. Three and eight playing a 373 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: backup in Marcus Mariota, who was last good when he 374 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: played in Eugene, Oregon. Okay, the guy sucks, coming off 375 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: six straight losses and they still went nose to nose 376 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: with the Broncos. Embarrassing, embarrassing and why is that two words? 377 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: Bo knicks bow knicks. He continues to be a. 378 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: Toys r Us quarterback. 379 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: He's a Yo yo, he's up and down right one 380 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: quarter he looks like Joe Montana and then he's Joe 381 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: Schmoe for the Broncos. There there's no consistency. I'll give 382 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: you a in the second half of this game, now 383 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: forget over him. Just a third and fourth quarter. He 384 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: was ten of seventeen for one hundred and four yards. 385 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: That's not good. Had a passer rating of fifty two 386 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: point one. Bow knicks in the third and fourth quarter, 387 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: and the reason that Washington was able to get back 388 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: Denver's last four drives of the second half they resulted 389 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: in the first one was an interception. 390 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: The following three. 391 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Punt punt punt, and that allowed Washington to work their 392 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: way back into the game. And that's not winning. That's 393 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: not winning footballs obviously is not winning football. It's a 394 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: holiday trip in congratulations. You're on a nice holiday trip 395 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: on the vomit comet. They're on the vomit comet. The 396 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: Commanders had more yards than Denver, they had more first downs. 397 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: The Broncos defense, which is they have good players that 398 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: look good to me, but yet they allowed Washington to 399 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: get more yards. 400 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: There was a in I think it was in overtime, 401 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: might have been regulation. 402 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: I didn't write down whether it was regulation or not, 403 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: but it was like a third and twenty five for 404 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: the Commanders with their backup quarterback, and they converted it. 405 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: They ended up converting it and kept the game going there. So, 406 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, you allowed the Commanders to get sixty scores 407 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: in the red zone, thirty first downs, they had more 408 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: first downs, more yards, all that stuff. And so when 409 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: the bow show. Then it reappeared he I mentioned Joe Montana, 410 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Joe Shmoo. 411 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 4: He was Joe schmo in. The second name was Joe Montana. 412 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: In overtime, four or four seventy one yards of the 413 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: seventy six on that drive, Marco's capped it off with 414 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown and there you go. 415 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: So it's like it's kind of like bo Bownix is 416 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 4: like finding a five dollar bill in a jacket that 417 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: you're planning on donating. Like it's great. 418 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: It's like, it doesn't really, it doesn't really change things 419 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: too much beause you play well in overtime. 420 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 421 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: So the nine game winning streak is there more more 422 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: fools goal than a nine game winning streak. The Broncos 423 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: have played this season the Giants, Jets, Raiders, and Commanders, 424 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: four of the worst teams in pro football. They have 425 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: won those games, all of them by a combined seven points. 426 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: Four of the worst teams you can possibly find in 427 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. They've won by seven total points, not seven 428 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: points per game. Seven total points against the Commanders, Raiders, Jets, 429 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: and Giants. 430 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 4: That's it. 431 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: That's not that's not dominance. That's faked till you make 432 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: it now. 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Check us out 448 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 6: on YouTube and subscribe. 449 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 4: To our lead. 450 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: This hour from Indy, we start there big AFC South matchup, 451 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: and well, we had a bunch of NFL games on Sunday. 452 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: There were only a few of them that really rose 453 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: to the level of interesting. There were some epic mismatches, 454 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: games that just had no juice, like Atlanta and the Jets. 455 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: Who the hell cares just nothing there mismatches like Jacksonville 456 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: and Tennessee and whatnot. 457 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 4: So we're going to focus in on a game that 458 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: was decent. Yead. 459 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: The Texans defense was now top three in the NFL 460 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: just about every category. Taking on Daniel Jones and the 461 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. I don't if you saw this or not, 462 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: maybe not. I had this game circle and if you 463 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: watched Benny versus the Penny over the weekend, you know 464 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: we told you about the Texans. We liked the Texas 465 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: in this game, and it turned out to be the 466 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: right side. Nico Collins ran seven yards for the tie 467 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: breaking score that was early in the fourth quarter, and 468 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: Nick Chubble loublub added another touchdown run. Houston's defense making 469 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: some plays there late in the game to wrap it up, 470 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: and the Texans preserve a twenty to sixteen victory over 471 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: these in the Annapolis Colts. The better story is in 472 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: the losing locker room. As the Colts go down, they 473 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: drop their second straight game. That does not sound good. 474 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: And for the first time this season, they have lost 475 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: three of four and they have fallen into a tie. 476 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: They have fallen into a tie with Jacksonville in the 477 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: AFC South and they play the Jaguars this coming Sunday. 478 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: So that seems like kind of a big deal. It 479 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: seems like, hey, what's going on a lot of close games, 480 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: a lot of non performing late by the Indianapolis Colts. 481 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: It seems to be a theme here that they're in 482 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: the games and then they don't make plays late. 483 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: Here. 484 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: Shane Steichen, that's the head coach of the Indianapolis football team, 485 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: commenting on how the Colts keep screwing up these games. 486 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: You lose these tight games. Sometimes you win the tight games, 487 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: but when you lose tight games, it's frustrating because you're like, shoot, 488 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 4: we can have that, we could add this, can add that. 489 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: You look back, it's three or four plays when you 490 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: lose tight ones, and so we got to find a 491 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: way to get those three or four plays when it 492 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: is a tight game like that. 493 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones again he didn't want to say this, 494 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: because you can't rip your quarterback. 495 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: We loses our team, We wines our team. Not so much. 496 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones failed to deliver yet again. If you're 497 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: a New York Giants fan, you're saying, you're nodding your head, Yes, 498 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: I know that. 499 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 4: You don't need to remind me. Yeah, so let us discuss. 500 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 4: That's a good jumping off point. 501 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: So the question what do you make of quarterback Daniel Jones. 502 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: And his performance here for the Colts soul. 503 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: I've got e rhythmics, airport parking garage, and foggy bathroom mirror, 504 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: and we will combine all of these things together and 505 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: we're going to put the biscuit in the basket, is 506 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: what we're going to do. 507 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: So number. 508 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: All right, enough, all right, So listen Daniel Jones, who 509 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks there was being hyped as 510 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: Indiana Jones, the iconic Indiana Jones we've seen as the 511 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: season has gone on. Here, Daniel Jones, he's Indiana Jones, 512 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the whip late in the game, 513 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have the right hat, doesn't have the right wardrobe, 514 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: and certainly without the heroics that case. 515 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: And you want to know the truth, the word here, 516 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: the word is underwhelming with a capitol you. That's my 517 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 4: word for Daniel Jones. Here. 518 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Both the box score and the eyeball test tell the 519 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: same story. Here Jones fourteen of twenty seven, so a 520 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: little over fifty percent of his passes just over two 521 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: hundred yards passing, did have a couple of touchdowns. It 522 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: sounds all right, it sounds okay, it sounds okay. He 523 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: actually watched the game though, You're like, okay, so he 524 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: does okay early on in the first half, and then 525 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: as the game progresses on, it gets harder and harder 526 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: and harder. With this game was a litmus test. Can 527 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: we all agree on that? 528 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 4: Everyone agrees? So it was a litmus test for the 529 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 4: Indianapolis Colts. 530 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: You're playing a top defensive team, you're at home, your 531 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: favor to win the game, all right, So that's all 532 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: important stuff. So this was a test and against the 533 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: Texans defense. And how did Daniel Jones do? He failed 534 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: the lab exam? He failed the lab exam unfortunately. And 535 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: the quarterback apologists, which drive me bonkers. 536 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: You know who they are, the fat boys in the media. 537 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 4: Oh it's never. The players followed, never, even though they 538 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: were the ones that actually play the game. 539 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: So the quarterback apologists, the softies, the mister softies out there, 540 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: they're already rolling out the excuses, the red carpet of 541 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: excuses here. You know, he had that de fibular injury 542 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: he's not one hundred percent. Come on, give him a break, 543 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: give me back. No, he was medically cleared, Daniel Jones 544 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: to play in the game. And if you're medically cleared 545 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: to play, you're allowed to play. Not gonna let him 546 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: go out there and play if he's going to injure 547 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: himself more, because that's a lie. And the NFL's been 548 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: sued up the wazoo in the last twenty years by 549 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: doing stuff like that. So Danie Jones was medically clear 550 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: to play. He's on the field. You are accountable for 551 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: your own actions. 552 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: Period. End of story. 553 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: Now, as for the Colts, the soundtrack for the Colts here, 554 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: it's starting to change as the season has gone on. 555 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: We've determined it, say you rhythmics classic. Here comes that 556 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: sink and feeling for Indianapolis. That sink and feeling. Bring 557 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: in some Annie Lennox here and get her singing there. 558 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: You could have called this one from the booth, all right, 559 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: how you could have called it from your sofa. You 560 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: could have called this one. Let's go to the fourth quarter. 561 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: That's winning time in the fourth. 562 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: Quarter there, and I got that sink and feeling. 563 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that sink and feeling here a big 564 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: money quarterback. That's where you're earn your money, right, make 565 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: place down the stretch. Down the stretch we come. So 566 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, Daniel Jones had a passer rating 567 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: of forty nine point three, which I don't think is good. 568 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: You're being too mean, all right? 569 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: How about this last week in Kansas City, last game 570 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Colts play Kansas City. 571 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: There he was even worse. 572 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: Three of nine that's in overtime and regulation, three of 573 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: nine seventeen yards last week, late game situations. So this 574 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: is not some kind of one off. In fact, if 575 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: you look at it, there's patternicity. There's a trend with 576 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. And when the moment gets big, big big, big, big, big, 577 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: big big, this guy has a tendency to shrink. It's 578 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: just the way it is. So he's in the Indiana 579 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: joneson for answers right now. The pattern is developing. Whether 580 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: you want to admit it or not, the pattern is there, 581 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: and it's not pretty. And the Colts have put themselves 582 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: into a corner. Now Sauce Gardner was hurting this game. 583 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna be out. Looks like for a couple of weeks. 584 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: It's not a season aiding injury. The guy that Colts 585 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: traded for. And I guess some people said a soldier. 586 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: You know, I love the I told you a guy. 587 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I enjoyed the I 588 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: told you guy, I told you. Guy emailed me and say, well. 589 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: I told you. They shouldn't have done that. Another sauce 590 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: card resort. Did the Colts gave up all these draft picks? 591 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: I don't I don't care. I would have done it. 592 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: I liked the fact that Colts went for it. I 593 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: like that. That's good. I'm not gonna rip it for that. 594 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: Has it worked out yet? I don't have a problem 595 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: with that thought that this is our opportunity and they're 596 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: still in first place, although they're tied now with Jacksonville 597 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 4: on the other side. 598 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: We now go to the winning locker room question. The 599 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: quarterback returned, So the question is how did Texans quarterback 600 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: cee J. Stroud look in his first game in almost 601 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: a month? His first game in almost a month, so 602 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: how did he look? 603 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: Here? 604 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: So watching this while flipping around other games, Stroud stepped 605 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: back onto the grid iron. He looked like a guy 606 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: that was walking out of a four week nap. That 607 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: he he had literally been napping for four weeks, which 608 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't think is good. And he was trying to 609 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: find his car at the airport parking garage and he 610 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: didn't remember where he parked, and he was taking the 611 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: shuttle from garage to garage to garage to garage. He's like, hey, dude, 612 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: where's my car. That was an old movie, Dude, where's 613 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: my car? First quarter? That was not a lot of 614 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: polish in the first quarter. 615 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: There that was oxidation, oxidation, no touchdowns, just hiccups and homework. 616 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: That you didn't do, homework that you didn't do, and 617 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: then you're like, Okay, what's going on here? And didn't 618 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: look all that great. There's some mental mistakes. For example, 619 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: he threw the football beyond the line of scrimmage. That's 620 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: a no no. There was an overthrow if he saw 621 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: the game, got gift wrap for the Colts defense from CJ. 622 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: Stroud. 623 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: Two turnovers on downs by the Texans offense. And so 624 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: it's like leaving the restaurant without paying the bill, dining 625 00:32:59,560 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: in ditch. 626 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: That's what that had. That's what that was. So a 627 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: couple of those here is Demico Ryans, the head coach 628 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: of the Houston Texans here and his comment on his car. 629 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure he's gonna rip CJ. Strod right say it 630 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 4: was terrible. Let's see Le's find out. 631 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 7: And I thought CJ did a really nice job coming back, 632 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 7: really missing a lot of time. I know some throws 633 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 7: he would like to have back, but overall thought he 634 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 7: managed the drives really well. 635 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: We drove down. 636 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 7: Of course we want to score on some of those. 637 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 7: We get down, had to kick field goals. But overall, 638 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 7: for him coming back not having played in a few 639 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 7: weeks here, I thought he did a really nice job. 640 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 7: If this is where he's started. 641 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: It's only up for him. 642 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 7: So I'm excited to see how he continues to progress. 643 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: You want to bet it's not only up for him, 644 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: because I'll bet I'll take that bet right now. You 645 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: want to bet he keeps getting better, I'll bet he 646 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: doesn't keep getting better. 647 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 4: I'll take the other side on that. Now. 648 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: The one thing I will concede, I'm not a total schmuck. 649 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: I will concede that TJ. Strodd did a very good 650 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: job the Texans offense. On third down, he was pretty good. 651 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: He was pretty good on third down. On third down, 652 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: he was Johnny Paycheck six of seven seventy nine yards 653 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: passing a one hundred and thirteen point seven passer rating, 654 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: which is pretty. 655 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: Good, which is pretty good. 656 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: And when the house lights were dimmed, Dim dim dim 657 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: dim dim Stroud, it was like piano man. He was 658 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: third downs engineering some things for. 659 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 4: Houston in the second half on that touchdown they got, 660 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 4: so it's kind of like they tilted the pinball machine 661 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 4: a little bit as the game went on for him 662 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: on those third down plays. 663 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: He was not great overall. You have to judge him 664 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: on the full body of work. He was not great. 665 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: So there was they won the game, and he did 666 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: get sacked a couple times, but it wasn't as bad 667 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: as it has been when CJ. Stroud was in there 668 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: before and Davis Mills took over, and just all he 669 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: did was get rid of the ball quickly and that 670 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: was enough. Because of the defense is so good in Houston, 671 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: they were able to win those games all right. Now, 672 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: final point, we go to Cleveland, Ohio in the forty 673 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: Niners road show in northern Ohio, and you talk about 674 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: getting it done on third down. The Niners converted sixty 675 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: five percent of their third downs I'm told that's good. 676 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: They get a twenty six to eight win without any 677 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: real gaudy offense from anybody. Brock Perdy, Christian McCaffrey, none 678 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: of those guys had big days against the Brownies defense 679 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: on a very chilly Cleveland. 680 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 4: Kind of a day. But don't bury the lead, my man. 681 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: We're not gonna bear lead. 682 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: So this was all about the spawn of Dion, the 683 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: spawn of Dion. So question, give me a single word, 684 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: Give me a single word that describes Shader Sanders first 685 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: home start for the Browns. 686 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 4: All right, So my word is dip. That's my word. 687 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: Dip, dip as in declining impact performance dip. That's all 688 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: I say. And it's exactly what Shadur Sanders delivered in 689 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: his first home start wearing those ugly Brown's uniforms. That 690 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: this was a chamber of commerce kind of a day 691 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: in northern high You don't need to talk to strip 692 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: Club John or Ohioal or any other legends in the 693 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: greater Cleveland area. This was absolutely a chamber of commerce 694 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of day. Right on the shores of Lake Erie. 695 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: They're thirty five degrees, damp and breezy, the type of 696 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: weather that historically West Coast teams go into Cleveland and 697 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: they start hibernating because of the weather, and so the 698 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: forty nine ers they showed up and they didn't do that. 699 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: They didn't have Again, we say this all the time 700 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: without their two headliners on devas, Nick Bosa and Fred 701 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: Warner not participating this season. 702 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 4: They're out with injuries. And Shadur Sanders. 703 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: Still look like he was reading the playbook through a 704 00:36:53,600 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: foggy bathroom mirror, looking through the the foggy bathroom mirror, 705 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: trying to make out what was going on there. Now, 706 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland had nine offensive possessions. 707 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: That's it. 708 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: They only had nine in the game. They had four punts, 709 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: three turnovers on downs, one fumble, and one interception and 710 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: a partridge in a pear tree. That's what they had there. 711 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: That's not a stat line, by the way, that is 712 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: a confession. Okay, outside of a single broken play miscoveraged 713 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: by the forty nine ers for thirty four yards. On 714 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: the other twenty four pass attempts by Shreder Sanders, he 715 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: averaged less than five yards per pass attempt and as 716 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: the game went on he fainted away there. So not 717 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: exactly the Mike Leech air raid offense from back in 718 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: the day. That's more like an air leak, is what 719 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: that was. Flatulence. The Browns were three of eleven on 720 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: third down, which I'm told is not good, zero for 721 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: four on fourth down, which I know is not good. 722 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't have to be told it's not good. And 723 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: that is not a conversion rate. That is a clearance sale, 724 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: and it is cyber. So please buy our takes. They're 725 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: on salf and yet he'll start again. The Browns already said, oh, 726 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: he's gonna start against Tennessee because Cleveland has decided, well, 727 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: they suck. They're treating the regular season like it's a 728 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: pilot episode. They're just doing some testing, little beta testing here, 729 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: seeing what they got. And meanwhile, Deonz media buddies, we 730 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: know who they are. They're the ones licking the toes 731 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: of Shuder Sanders. They'll keep talking about Schaudur Canton Ohio, 732 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame performance, all that stuff. We're two 733 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: weeks in as a starter, two weeks in and we 734 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: have an early verdict for Shudur Sanders. He doesn't just 735 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: doesn't look like the guy. Don't look like the guy 736 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: two weeks into this year, So again, do the dip 737 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: declining impact performance for Schudur Sanders and these two starts 738 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: he's made for the Browns, they're one in one overall. 739 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: Of course, the win has an asterisk. It was against 740 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Old Raiders. 741 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller 742 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 743 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 4: It's Mallard, Texans Coach to the third degree. Ryan, This 744 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 4: is one Yeah, I sure, Cooper Loop go ahead there? Cool? Please? 745 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 8: Well, Ben, you just talked to Tree in Chicago about 746 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 8: his Chicago Bears. Yes, how much credit does Ben Johnson 747 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 8: deserve for their success? 748 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,479 Speaker 4: Well? 749 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: A sizable amount of credit, Coop. The Bears have been 750 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: chronic underachievers for years. He's apparently simplified things here and 751 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: the Bears have surpassed where they normally have been. 752 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 4: And he's the difference is the coach. 753 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: So you guys say that this is actually helping out 754 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: And it's not like Cabb Williams is playing great, because 755 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not playing all that well and the 756 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: Bears are still winning these games, So good job by him. 757 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 8: Next, so the Chiefs are a five hundred team and 758 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 8: they might miss the playoffs playoffs. Over the weekend, Patrick 759 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 8: Mahomes said, our ceiling is playing in the super Bowl. 760 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 8: We can beat anybody, but we've shown that we can 761 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 8: lose to anybody. 762 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 4: Ben you agree with all that. 763 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: It sounds good, but you got to look at what 764 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: you are this year and what you are this year. 765 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: There's been a constant monsoon that has taken over the 766 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. I kept saying, well, this is gonna 767 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: be the week they turn things around, This is gonna 768 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: be the week. 769 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 4: And no, they're just this is who they are. They're 770 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 4: not that good. 771 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: They're just not I don't see I don't see them 772 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: turning these around next. 773 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 8: There was a report over the weekend that three teams 774 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 8: are being linked to a trade for LaMelo Ball. 775 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 4: Do you think he's somebody that you want to go for? 776 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 4: Heils your team around. 777 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: Oh, he's a good player. You don't know if guys 778 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: like that because he's on a crappy team. And it's 779 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: easy to put stats on a crappy team. It's it's 780 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: hard when you're winning. They put up says, I'm skeptical. 781 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 4: How do we doubt how I passed Bugatti? Bugatti? I 782 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 4: passed the truck of Bugatti. 783 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 784 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 785 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 786 00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: listen live. Hey you sports figure, guy or girl? 787 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 4: Who here with you talking to son? Hear some intertent advice? 788 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 4: Hold that thought. No one's paid attention to me for 789 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 4: ten whole seconds. And if you don't like it, anyway, 790 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 4: we go. 791 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: It's the insta advice line on screen. Rado Who needs 792 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: our advice? 793 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 4: Well? 794 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: Who else but the Raiders. They have been eliminated from 795 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: playoff contention. The Raiders playoff win drout will continue. They 796 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: have not won a postseason game since three. Tom Brady 797 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: has made this thing even worse than it has been. 798 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: He's a terrible executive slash owner and so any advice 799 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: to the Raiders At eight seven, seven ninety nine on 800 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: Fox you're live on the air. 801 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 4: When you hear my voice, we'll start out with you 802 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 4: online Number one advice to the Raiders. 803 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: Line one, Yip, kay, motherfucker. 804 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: All right, thank you for that line too. You're on 805 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 4: the air. 806 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: Hello, line too, we're giving advice. There's Lucky Tony making 807 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: his contribution. To the podcast. Line too, you're on the air. 808 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: We're giving advice to the Raiders. 809 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: Hello, the Raiders were eliminated and they named Gino Smith 810 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: their starting quarterback. That's right. They traded for him and 811 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 4: then paid him. What a bunch of dumb dumbs. Oh 812 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: my god, this. 813 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: Is one of the cases the fans no more than 814 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: the idiots running the teams are yea. Line four, you're 815 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: on the airline fur. 816 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 4: Hello, don't accuse me of stealing your nickname. I've been 817 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 4: Ferg Dog before you're even born. 818 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 5: Dog. 819 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 4: That's right, e Dog. 820 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: We should have Ferg Dog versus E Dog in the octagon. 821 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: Would be a big event on the show. Boy, that 822 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: would be fun. We should set that up. Line five, 823 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: you're on the airline five. 824 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 4: Hello, Yeah, morning time. 825 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: So it is true you can have your head above 826 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: water and still drowning. 827 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: Get there's the great, the one and only, our friend 828 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: Rick and Maryland. Line six, you're on the air. We're 829 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: giving advice. So the Raiders they have not won a 830 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: posts in game since out three. They have now been 831 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs this year and no playoffs for them. 832 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: God Blet's of Fremno State School nursing. 833 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 4: Hey, there's our buddy in Missouri. It was at in 834 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 4: marine boot camp with the legend most famous drill sergeant 835 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 4: of them all there from Full Metal Jacket. Line two, 836 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 4: you're on the airline too. 837 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 2: Hello, I want some Raymond noodle? 838 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Raymond, Yeah, Raymond new that's uh. 839 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: I think that's from that old CBS show Everyone Loves Raymond. 840 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 4: That Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Line number three, you're on 841 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 4: the air line three. 842 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: Hello. 843 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, champions in March. 844 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 4: Yes, well they do win the they win the offseason, 845 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 4: they do. Yeah. Line four, you're on the airline Force 846 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 4: the incident of ice. Line Hello. 847 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: Line four, Oh there he goes, all right, I hurry up. 848 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 4: One last call. Who's it gonna be? 849 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: Cool? 850 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 4: Bury up? Line five? Line five you're on the go 851 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 4: ahead line. Fuck, go go. 852 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 3: Oh man, we can take Panthers. 853 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 4: What about you? You didn't call up after the Chiefs game. 854 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: You didn't call you fraud, You didn't call up after 855 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs game. 856 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 4: Fraud.