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Speaker 1: let me get into a couple of fact checks. Actually,
Speaker 1: I want to do a fact check from a couple
Speaker 1: of episodes ago. This is the episode that uh entitled
Speaker 1: phone check, So go back and check that out. That's
Speaker 1: when James called in from Australia. But I made a
Speaker 1: comment about hip hop and rap being a young man's
Speaker 1: game basically eighteen to thirty for those who are starting
Speaker 1: off as a rap our producer Norman Steele sent me
Speaker 1: a message saying that, uh, you know, there's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of fourty year old rappers that are out there,
Speaker 1: and that is true. There are several forty forty and
Speaker 1: up rappers out there, but most all of them started
Speaker 1: in the game as a young person. And I just
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge all our forty and over rappers that
Speaker 1: are still relevant. And then I ask you, guys, who
Speaker 1: do you think and still put out a hit? And
Speaker 1: the first one, of course comes to mind is Snoop
Speaker 1: Doggs born in nineteen two. What do you think about
Speaker 1: his ability to put out a hit? In fact, he
Speaker 1: just put out a song about crips and blood uniting
Speaker 1: this week put out an album, the whole album Yeah
Speaker 1: you nine? Yeah, what's the name of that song? Rich?
Speaker 1: I just saw a video with Snoop Dogg and Blue
Speaker 1: Face and kill All Blood. What is yeah? They got?
Speaker 1: He got a bunch of songs out, But oh, it
Speaker 1: seems to be a decent album. You know. I like
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg music, so we'll see. He got into it
Speaker 1: with four hundred flim yeah from over some shooting or
Speaker 1: some ship. And now Snoop is mad because they want
Speaker 1: to get that Blue Face and yeah, and from town.
Speaker 1: So it's just some old well you just heard about
Speaker 1: it when the incident, what the what they just rated
Speaker 1: hy g House about it less than a month ago,
Speaker 1: and that they was in the armored armor car. Did
Speaker 1: you hear about that and the shot an innocent person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's all going back behind and that little beef.
Speaker 1: That's some stuff going on the company. The song that
Speaker 1: Snoop just put out, it's called one Blood one cause
Speaker 1: just came out earlier this week. He got the song
Speaker 1: Bygones be Bygones. So he got the song um uh
Speaker 1: five four three to one. I think it's called countdown
Speaker 1: or something like that. I hear he got this an album. Well,
Speaker 1: he definitely can still do it. We got forty more
Speaker 1: than nineteen sixty seven, yep, yep, year two ago, Ice Tea,
Speaker 1: he's actually over fifty. I disagree. I just I was
Speaker 1: in the studio with him earlier this year. Him classes
Speaker 1: and King T got some fire coming out. I was
Speaker 1: impressed with we got something coming out now, Yes, and
Speaker 1: I was impressed with it. In fact, I think I
Speaker 1: T is a better rapper now than he was twenty
Speaker 1: years ago when he first came out. So he married.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were still doing wrapped talking about
Speaker 1: a P and his wife Coco. That is funny. Man,
Speaker 1: Why do y'all be talking like that. He's actually an
Speaker 1: over fifty rapper. I still think he's got driven nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy scarface ship. You still do it? You still got it?
Speaker 1: He might be able to one of my favorite method
Speaker 1: Man born in seventy one. Yeah. In fact, there's a
Speaker 1: couple other guys from Woutang that are over forty. I
Speaker 1: should have added there. Ray Kwan is over forty and
Speaker 1: also a red Man. But I think method Man is
Speaker 1: the most skillful of the whole clan. The best one
Speaker 1: is Rick Ross. Of course, did you say Rick Ross?
Speaker 1: N Man? We didn't get to Rick Ross. That's the
Speaker 1: best one. We'll jump to Rick Ross seventy six man,
Speaker 1: Rick Ross, he's still doing it now, right? I forgot
Speaker 1: about jay Z now Nas, it's the number one on here,
Speaker 1: NAS shouting out now definitely can still do it. After NAS,
Speaker 1: I got P? Did he um? Did hemore? I put
Speaker 1: him on the list because he's still relevant? P? Did
Speaker 1: he got a nice song out? P? Did he make
Speaker 1: you y'all go to his show? Did he his show
Speaker 1: might be as as good as NAS show or j
Speaker 1: Z show right now, because you're in the channer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got he got an old in his show. And
Speaker 1: he's turning fifty years old this year. He still cool.
Speaker 1: But he's got him a girl that's half his age.
Speaker 1: Isn't he dating? Um? Uh? What's his name's daughter? He
Speaker 1: can date daughter if he wanted to know my daughter. Um, oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, whos the guy to talk show and he's
Speaker 1: got all the shows. Can meet Steve Harvey, he said,
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey's daughter, and she well, I mean they can
Speaker 1: shower that as in the dope. But I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't funk with nothing. He got kids at age, I
Speaker 1: mean and his daughter, his son was sucking ever before
Speaker 1: his sign show now and he got it. That's crazy, Harvey, man,
Speaker 1: check your kids. Man. Fat Joe born in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: Can he still do it? He actually started to produce
Speaker 1: hits as he got older. Leaned Back as a song
Speaker 1: that came out later in his career. Yeah, And in
Speaker 1: his early career he didn't really put out hits, and
Speaker 1: then he started putting out hits in his thirties. He
Speaker 1: got a nice song with Remy. I think now he's
Speaker 1: in his forties and he's still I think he's still relevant.
Speaker 1: DJ Quick also born in ninety good, Yeah, yeah, DJ
Speaker 1: Quick still doing this. Got he's one of the best producers.
Speaker 1: But I don't know Cube Stude ice Cube just went
Speaker 1: to transition to the movies and all of that ship.
Speaker 1: But if if he wanted to shoot out and make
Speaker 1: a record, he can do it. Yeah. He hasn't put
Speaker 1: out an album in a while. He could just do one,
Speaker 1: just one. The dude is good like that. He's definitely
Speaker 1: still relevant. What's that we're gonna mention? Ray Doe rap?
Speaker 1: He's been working on Detox for Z born in sixty nine.
Speaker 1: That makes some fifty one, So we got some over
Speaker 1: fifty rappers on this list. Um, too Short? Can he
Speaker 1: still put out a hit? It's been a minute. No,
Speaker 1: some of those dudes is tied something. I think you're tired.
Speaker 1: I don't think Too Short got it into it no more.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to on the Something Else too. He
Speaker 1: was born in sixty six and then Master P born
Speaker 1: in seventy. Can he still put out a head now?
Speaker 1: But they on the tour, It's gonna be interesting. To
Speaker 1: see them on tour to see how they do um.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, he always talking about and
Speaker 1: everybody always talking about how Snooping, master p do all
Speaker 1: of this together and all of that, and and and
Speaker 1: master He loved Masterpiece so much. Y'all know this, Master
Speaker 1: Snoop ain't on that tour. Huh. Yeah, I guess master
Speaker 1: Piece still relevant. I don't know if he could actually
Speaker 1: put a hit out though it's been a long time.
Speaker 1: Quest Love born in seventy one. Still relevant. He's actually
Speaker 1: the band the band leader on the Tonight Show. I
Speaker 1: don't even know who. Yeah, the roots. Yeah. I never
Speaker 1: like he's doing music. He's a music director now, all right.
Speaker 1: Comment born in seventy two. He's an actor now. He's
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things. Can he still put out
Speaker 1: of old Maybe not. He's probably not hungry enough to
Speaker 1: put out a hit. Truck D. I think Chuck D
Speaker 1: hasn't put out a song, relevant song. Yeah, he's just
Speaker 1: he needs to be doing podcasts. Your favorite rapper, Reggie
Speaker 1: Eminem born in seventy two. He can do it, You
Speaker 1: can still do it. Your favorite. He said that, I
Speaker 1: don't know you said something negative about him. I just
Speaker 1: don't like that he used word overrated, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he's a comedian, but all the rappers
Speaker 1: let him use that ship. That was my point. But
Speaker 1: Eminem was good. It was good. Can he can still
Speaker 1: do it? Maybe? Yeah, definitely. Two Chains is actually still
Speaker 1: doing it. He's still doing He's got hits out now.
Speaker 1: Born in seventy six, he's early for what that make
Speaker 1: him early forties, you know. And y'all For those of
Speaker 1: y'all got a problem with me saying about Eminel, you
Speaker 1: see how Tupac checked Um, tim Roth and Gridlock. I
Speaker 1: was watching Gridlock the other day and when, uh, when
Speaker 1: tim Roth used the N word, he was like, man,
Speaker 1: you can't be saying that. Even though you're cool with me,
Speaker 1: ain't we cool? You can't use that word. Y'all gonna
Speaker 1: catch that thing. For those of y'all that think um
Speaker 1: On being hard on for saying for using the N word,
Speaker 1: some some brothers don't don't really care if if like
Speaker 1: the Mechiicans use in words like like my nigga, my nigga,
Speaker 1: my nigga, but they their their their ansectors haven't heard
Speaker 1: us with that word and use that word to keep
Speaker 1: us nigga from Well. I munderstand that the word nigga anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: you know that that hurts us because the white man
Speaker 1: keep us down with that word for so long, and
Speaker 1: we haven't had that history with the maximum people behind
Speaker 1: that last person on the list, Dr dre Can he
Speaker 1: still put a hit out over four. I think Dr J.
Speaker 1: Steward Beach, Dr dre Well dealcs out here right, you
Speaker 1: know deals DLC get with him and write something for him.
Speaker 1: My favorite was a fucking lush Dalc still be writing
Speaker 1: why I shocked him? And and I'm sure that I'm
Speaker 1: probably missing a handful of over forty rappers, So please
Speaker 1: don't flood my inbox if I didn't mention your favorite
Speaker 1: over forty rapper. But I think the point of it
Speaker 1: is rapper is a young man's game. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: be forty starting out your career. All these guys have
Speaker 1: been in the game for over a decade or more.
Speaker 1: With Two Chains and Rick Ross, they started a little late.
Speaker 1: I think they were either late twenties or early thirties
Speaker 1: when they put their first album outbum. Everyone else on
Speaker 1: this list was like, at five, you don't even try it.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of saying that don't want to rest drop
Speaker 1: a bomb on anybody's um dream. And that's this comes
Speaker 1: up from when we mentioned the Realist on the last
Speaker 1: episode or a couple episodes. Jones just how challenge that
Speaker 1: dude is. If you got the lyrics and you got
Speaker 1: the voice, you got the swag at they're gonna love you. Neally, yeah,
Speaker 1: he maybe he might be over forty. I didn't findn't
Speaker 1: Adam on the list of is well, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to mess up anybody's dream. If they're forty
Speaker 1: and they're just starting their first demo, go for it,
Speaker 1: you know, go for it. But look at the numbers.
Speaker 1: H I don't think anyone ever in the history of
Speaker 1: hip hop put out an album for the first time
Speaker 1: over forty years old. All right, um. Another fact check
Speaker 1: from phone Check episode eight teen was I said there
Speaker 1: was a rapper that sound like bigg I just called
Speaker 1: him black, but Reggie, you actually sent me a message
Speaker 1: saying his name was Guerilla Black. I forgot about his
Speaker 1: hole and Guerrilla Black and whatever happened to Guerrilla Black.
Speaker 1: That dude sounded just like Biggie when he came out,
Speaker 1: and he did too. I don't know, but I know
Speaker 1: he was from over there in Compton off of Um
Speaker 1: over there about the McDonald's. What's the game over there
Speaker 1: about the McDonald's and UM off a Rose trans and
Speaker 1: in central Well. I think he did westside Pirus, right
Speaker 1: on the north on the north side of behind McDonald's
Speaker 1: by I can't think right now, by the church's Chicken
Speaker 1: and all that neighborhood Piru, the county. He's swimming games
Speaker 1: over there Blood Campanella village. Yeah, I don't remember hearing
Speaker 1: that name. You've got the village towns, h huh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was one of those games, but over there over there,
Speaker 1: I can't think of it right now. Whatever in his
Speaker 1: career though, you think, because he sounded so much like
Speaker 1: another rapper, was hardy. Not for sure though. Alright, So,
Speaker 1: going back to episode twenty, the Return of Big James,
Speaker 1: we were talking about Tupac's financial status. I found um
Speaker 1: an article that said he got paid only seventy five
Speaker 1: thousand for the movie Juice. I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1: I thought he would have made more money as an actor,
Speaker 1: but who knows what the royalties were if he had,
Speaker 1: you know, some incentives off the movie but that's all
Speaker 1: they were giving people back. There were auditioning for the
Speaker 1: movies and getting you know, they had a lot of
Speaker 1: people in there that you know, the movie. They didn't
Speaker 1: have the DVDs and the cables companies and all of
Speaker 1: those different things. The movie used to stay in the
Speaker 1: movie theater for a month or two, three weeks. Friday,
Speaker 1: he only got five thousand first shot on Friday, So
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand ship. Yeah, I think he park was
Speaker 1: the lead in Juice, was playing uh a supporting actor role,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but he had I mean, he
Speaker 1: had a big role, five thousand dollars and he the
Speaker 1: only one besides uh Ice. He would have been in
Speaker 1: every movie exactly, so you know his ship went up. Well,
Speaker 1: it was Shannick fire Grandford for Juice in nineteen I
Speaker 1: can't remember dates three. I mean, people were making a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand movie. He hated that. He hated that character Bishop.
Speaker 1: I was at it. I was waing one time when
Speaker 1: he said he wished they were burn that movie. He
Speaker 1: hated Bishop character. That was probably his most revered role though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but from the streets, they love Bishop. That was a
Speaker 1: New York thing. Yeah, and another fact check. We said
Speaker 1: that a Phantashakor's house was indicator, but it's in a
Speaker 1: different it's in another town in the Atlanta area. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but Noble from Outlaws was living in the
Speaker 1: Nobles living in there. He purchased it from from a
Speaker 1: PENI okay, that's cool. And um O J. Simpson is
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and seventy five thousand followers, so his
Speaker 1: it seems like maybe he's plateaued and look like talk
Speaker 1: about Ron Goldman and the mother gonna jump up, or
Speaker 1: talk about the daughter or the daddy that ship, Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta be more controversial. You don't have to be controversial.
Speaker 1: He needs another hundred and twenty five thousand to get
Speaker 1: to a million. It looks like that that hundred thous
Speaker 1: gonna be slow growth from here on out. He won
Speaker 1: coming away from it. Yeah, and I think that's good man,
Speaker 1: Just oh j ships, you need to shit down and relax.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we already make our shilf look bad.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't be the case of a lifetime.
Speaker 1: And you go to Los Vegas and then you catch time.
Speaker 1: You come home now and you're the king of motherfucking huh. Instagram.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're not trying to be well. He
Speaker 1: damned there in they got four for me, and they
Speaker 1: got people with fifty million out there. He needs to relax,
Speaker 1: and I think he just needs to just really retire
Speaker 1: for real, for real, enjoy your life. Man. Maybe that
Speaker 1: pension is not enough to live off of. Which is
Speaker 1: how much is a monthly NFL? I'm sure I got
Speaker 1: some some increases, but it was a month. I mean
Speaker 1: that's he could take a trip for per month, one
Speaker 1: triper month, just get away instead of doing all this
Speaker 1: other ship. I think he's trying to find another way
Speaker 1: to create some revenue. And I think that's the latest
Speaker 1: thing I saw that he and he did was he
Speaker 1: was he was, you know, applauding. He showed his legs,
Speaker 1: his knees and stuff. Uh, and he was saying how
Speaker 1: running backs take it hard. So he was trying to
Speaker 1: show support for the guy from the Chargers, the running
Speaker 1: back Gordon, and for for Zeke for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: will be a personal training. Yeah, all the other ship
Speaker 1: to old I think he didn't do his thing. I'm
Speaker 1: not the old j supporter or something better. He better
Speaker 1: be lucky. It was in the nineties when this should happened. Yea, even,
Speaker 1: that's all I gotta say. Man, when we when we
Speaker 1: beat ship like that, man, take it from what it
Speaker 1: is and let's run with it. You think snoops so nice?
Speaker 1: Everybody friend he showed would be up. You don't want
Speaker 1: to pick up no penstrol riding the car with no gun.
Speaker 1: Who was snooping is here? It would be off man,
Speaker 1: because you'll imagine snooping the pen straight ball, Oh man,
Speaker 1: snoop And I couldn't imagine Sugar Knight in the pen.
Speaker 1: But when he no I'm talking about the first time
Speaker 1: he went in in the nineties, a big guy, and
Speaker 1: that that's a half a pass anyway. But I'm talking
Speaker 1: I was a rock star on the pen. But I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about Sugar Knight as a person handling the pen.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the CEO of a record company going to
Speaker 1: the beast. When you want to go to prison, when
Speaker 1: you got all your bills thinking gear, you got a
Speaker 1: motherfun out there running and taking care of your bills,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go to ben When you broke sure,
Speaker 1: you didn't want to go to go to prison. You
Speaker 1: don't want to go nobody want to go. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go, they say, HARRYO is out. Yeah, halfway
Speaker 1: house in San Antonio, Texas. Now, how bizarre would that
Speaker 1: be with HARRYO and shig Night on the street at
Speaker 1: the same time. Man, here, you all gotta go, had
Speaker 1: to go, Nightly had to go, one and one had
Speaker 1: to go. Well, Harry is going to be living in Texas,
Speaker 1: so San Antonio, they wouldn't have been crossed the paths anyways,
Speaker 1: because it will be nice just not knowing. Just think
Speaker 1: they moved in California, Harry. It will be nice for
Speaker 1: another year too. I'm sure you got about the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and you got that halfway house. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, So let's get into our first topic.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's a good topic. Reggie jay
Speaker 1: Z now elaborating with the NFL with Mr Goodell after
Speaker 1: he was I guess on the side of Kaepernick for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years in terms of challenging the
Speaker 1: the what is it the national anthem and taking a
Speaker 1: knee and all this stuff which the NFL hated it.
Speaker 1: It was just bad pr for the NFL. And now
Speaker 1: he's a partner up with the NFL. Not only that
Speaker 1: is basically saying, okay, Trump, I hear you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: roll with y'all and going to get mine. I don't
Speaker 1: want what's happening in the lime, like man is crazy
Speaker 1: that we have to sell out and just say sucking.
Speaker 1: Then roll with this ship. Now one minute you're telling
Speaker 1: everybody don't be part of the halftime super Bowl show
Speaker 1: and don't do it. Don't do it. Mad at the
Speaker 1: one ship because she did it when when big on her?
Speaker 1: What's the good that did to have time show? But yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Scott was the one. He was trying
Speaker 1: to get the back out. Now you're going bad. Now
Speaker 1: you're doing it. I mean, what do you think, Gil?
Speaker 1: I think, um, we got to get to the table.
Speaker 1: And so my question to you guys would be, if
Speaker 1: it wasn't j D to go to the table, who
Speaker 1: who would you want to be at the table? Who
Speaker 1: would you want in that position? I was trying to think.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't show, don't want no Jesse
Speaker 1: or no Al Sharpen or anybody like that at the table.
Speaker 1: So and I don't want Puffy j D said he
Speaker 1: was Jermaine the priest said he was offered the job
Speaker 1: a year ago and jay Z talked to him all
Speaker 1: doing it. But I don't think j D have enough
Speaker 1: three cred or so do you think jay Z is
Speaker 1: taking it because he think he can make a change. Now,
Speaker 1: don't give me jay Z. Now, jay Z has given money.
Speaker 1: He has did a lot of ship. He has paid
Speaker 1: be the path for the girl and the guy that
Speaker 1: the police custom holand at him. He was on for
Speaker 1: the lawyer. All that ship, you know, did some good ship.
Speaker 1: So you can't call him and sell off because he's
Speaker 1: looking out for his people. Yeah. Um, I just wish
Speaker 1: he would have came him and his staff would have
Speaker 1: came with a better program on telling us what they
Speaker 1: were going to do, what they would have would do,
Speaker 1: and how they were going to make the changes. When
Speaker 1: they had the press conference, I hope him and Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: which it doesn't appear. He tried to make it seem
Speaker 1: like they had a great conversation. He didn't say they did.
Speaker 1: He said he wouldn't, he wouldn't speak on it. But
Speaker 1: we've seen Cap coming out and then you know Eric
Speaker 1: Reed been making negative statements lately, so I don't it
Speaker 1: doesn't appear that they signed off on it. Um, so
Speaker 1: I think he should have talked it down. Um. But
Speaker 1: my opinion on it is we got awareness to it
Speaker 1: because we will get what what the what The reason
Speaker 1: for all of the kneeling and stuff was about awareness.
Speaker 1: We all know what the problem is now is not
Speaker 1: in the NFL, though Kaefernick got a big selement. Kaevin
Speaker 1: Nick don't want to be in the NFL. When kaefer
Speaker 1: Nick made fun of of um, the Ravens calling Ray
Speaker 1: ray Lewis, which I agree is uncle Tom and a rat.
Speaker 1: But when he called him that, um, yeah, the football
Speaker 1: player football. He hadn't had a shot with the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens and then he made fun of them. And then
Speaker 1: with Miami he shows up disrespecting half of the base,
Speaker 1: the Cubans or something like that. Are you know on
Speaker 1: his T shirt or something. There's some issue about that
Speaker 1: in Miami. When Miami is gonna give him a shot,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play. He knew he had a
Speaker 1: great lawsuit. He was setting up himself for a to
Speaker 1: be a political activist. But he's been training, he's been
Speaker 1: standing in shape, he's been expressing that he wants to
Speaker 1: play because he got his se now and he looks
Speaker 1: he got he didn't. He didn't get it. He didn't
Speaker 1: lose the shape or anything like that. He got the selement.
Speaker 1: So now he wants to play. Now you want to
Speaker 1: play because he got his sellment. But but the NFL
Speaker 1: in either, why because I paid your ass out, I
Speaker 1: gave you rseelement. He definitely has the talent and skill
Speaker 1: to be on one of these dirty rocks. Paid you out,
Speaker 1: I's free, will you Well, he deserves to be in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I think that the NFL was intimidating
Speaker 1: all these owners. Donald Trump n Donald Trump did Donald
Speaker 1: Trump did? He influenced and he scared all his thirty
Speaker 1: rich friends. YEA, yeah, he's scared now. But we got
Speaker 1: to get back to the point for the niling and
Speaker 1: sometimes we got to move past the daling. So I
Speaker 1: agree with that. We're all aware of it now. So
Speaker 1: now what do we do now? On what we need
Speaker 1: to do and what's everybody missing? The point is we
Speaker 1: need to come up with a system for law enforcement,
Speaker 1: an oversight for the fans, not just for East County
Speaker 1: or East State or whatever. We need an oversight system
Speaker 1: where we're all because shooting in in l l a.
Speaker 1: May Bee perceived wrong in Arkansas or whatever. We need
Speaker 1: to come up with a systematic when you pull your
Speaker 1: gun out and shoot someone, this is the law federally,
Speaker 1: so we can stop having all of the different police
Speaker 1: officers in different um areas. I think every situation need
Speaker 1: to go to the grand jury. Every cops you needed,
Speaker 1: like they're do in New York. Every cops you no
Speaker 1: matter what, goes to the grand jury and that the
Speaker 1: grand jury decide, not you know, not a DA or
Speaker 1: political position jury decide, because nine times out of the ten,
Speaker 1: the grand jury is going with the police. Grand people
Speaker 1: they're not. But but look at all these cops. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's not because they're not going before this DA
Speaker 1: is making these decisions. Yeah, that's my point, and that's
Speaker 1: what they'll be doing something be like you get uncle
Speaker 1: Uncle Bob in Arkansas, that shooting looks good. I'm me personally, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't learned and I didn't woke up. And I
Speaker 1: really believe man that having this ship that's going on
Speaker 1: is our fault. We need to start taking accountable for
Speaker 1: the ship that we do and the ship that we're
Speaker 1: not doing. You feel me now? Having the ship I
Speaker 1: learned it ain't no need for me to sit here
Speaker 1: and try to fight five police officers and I ain't
Speaker 1: had no gun and they all got guns and sticks. Okay, yes, sir, officers.
Speaker 1: That don't make you no bit. Earlier episodes on Against
Speaker 1: the Chronicles, I said, we gotta learn how to go
Speaker 1: and complain and keep writing up. And like I said,
Speaker 1: something may not happen the first time or the second time,
Speaker 1: but if you get you keep getting a jacket of
Speaker 1: being this guy that's this heavy handed officer. A good department,
Speaker 1: especially the big department's gonna deal with you, asked now,
Speaker 1: I want to see a certain change that only I
Speaker 1: think two or three states do this. The police department
Speaker 1: should never be allowed to investigate themselves shooting. UM. I
Speaker 1: believe either the state of Michigan or the state of
Speaker 1: Minnesota does not allow the police to police the police.
Speaker 1: UM In California, if the l a p D is
Speaker 1: involved in the office involved shooting, to investigate, but they
Speaker 1: do have to call the a investigators out. But generally, yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be an outside law enforcement entity the state
Speaker 1: or I think we need to take it federally now
Speaker 1: because we need to have because you have in different states.
Speaker 1: We have a new Tall and places like that. And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pick on the rednecked states, but
Speaker 1: I do um they have different ways of looking at
Speaker 1: things than the Blue States stuff. It's it's just a
Speaker 1: fact where especially with people think it would be if
Speaker 1: if you had all black cops in l A. How
Speaker 1: do you think that that it would be? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be better, right, you don't think
Speaker 1: to be better? Oh? Hell, no black cops black shootings?
Speaker 1: Well you said, because when they're not as as fearful
Speaker 1: as maybe some of the white officers just saying finishes
Speaker 1: in the hood. We got all black cops just Shafe
Speaker 1: Comfort police station was was predominantly okay. But if it
Speaker 1: was all black and they just coming through the hood,
Speaker 1: you ain't worried about these white boys being your ass
Speaker 1: and none of this other ship or these white boys
Speaker 1: with these child roll with some black officers those worse
Speaker 1: than the white boys. Well my thing is can go.
Speaker 1: And then then had the Mesicans patrol. They because they
Speaker 1: don't think I don't like that. I mean they like
Speaker 1: that community. Hey, I lived around the corner from you.
Speaker 1: Something part of my life and being a cop my
Speaker 1: daddy for probably about ten years of being a cop.
Speaker 1: And we call more hell for what they call a
Speaker 1: word I never even heard of all my years of
Speaker 1: college what they called ization frand NISI I used to
Speaker 1: go to Melvin was Untouchable. I remember getting in with
Speaker 1: Britain the lad people out there, no one because they
Speaker 1: wrote the book. I was up there, Agins. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty six to seven year old cops getting some
Speaker 1: sounds at Untouchable and Melvin and the shop, and I'm
Speaker 1: cool with Melton man. Melone was the same bit at
Speaker 1: that one time. And but me and Melvine was cool,
Speaker 1: and I um when I gave her, Yeah, my wife
Speaker 1: don't listen to this ship, But I gave um. I
Speaker 1: mean we were, you know, messing where I would saying
Speaker 1: Jack and Jack nation her, and but I was up there,
Speaker 1: and me and Melvine was cool because we know what
Speaker 1: was going on. And they hated that. They were like,
Speaker 1: why are you up here? You know up here in company.
Speaker 1: You know they selling marijuana all of here and all
Speaker 1: the game members up here. I said, another walk up
Speaker 1: my grandmother, who I'm living with right now, staying with
Speaker 1: right now. Little you know over on hairs little two
Speaker 1: blocks away from here, and they hooking my car and
Speaker 1: my truck up with some sounds that ballad them. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a big, big talk and they and this
Speaker 1: is the city I grew up and so I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, cops don't like you hanging around in the
Speaker 1: community where you grow up at. This is before the
Speaker 1: community police in there and all of that. But this
Speaker 1: one just white cops. Black cops. Student would be less
Speaker 1: officers involve shootings of black civilians when you have more
Speaker 1: black cops that are from that community. Is all about
Speaker 1: being scared and not scared. Most of these shootings are
Speaker 1: happening because exactly now, you're not gonna be as scared
Speaker 1: as approaching someone from my Paru Louters Park poperate as
Speaker 1: a white officer would be. I remember going to James
Speaker 1: House one time and I pulled right up in the
Speaker 1: driveway fifty niggers standing outside because that's how he had
Speaker 1: club Club James or whatever he called it. And I
Speaker 1: pulled right up up in there, and some senior officers
Speaker 1: came like, what the funk you doing pulling up in
Speaker 1: the crawler, I said, And they trust your mothers want
Speaker 1: not trust y'all. Well, my partner whoever that was, They
Speaker 1: was like, well, they don't, well she don't. I think
Speaker 1: of a female officer, she don't trust them like that.
Speaker 1: You endangered her life and safety and all that, And
Speaker 1: so I asked us that you're like, no, cool, But
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to say that's you know, that's how
Speaker 1: they think. So well, that's basically chance. The point is
Speaker 1: that if you have more black cops like you police
Speaker 1: in the black community, there's gonna be obviously less officer
Speaker 1: involved shooting, is less brothers getting killed. But I know
Speaker 1: some white cops Brett in the lad were just as
Speaker 1: was just as cool as I was. What they were
Speaker 1: white boys, and they were just the coolest cops too.
Speaker 1: So you have something take. It's gonna take a lot
Speaker 1: of time to get to know that cop. Though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Opposed to Reggie pulling up Inday
Speaker 1: getting out of the car, ain't nobody for the run?
Speaker 1: This okay? This, what are you're talking about? Yea hand
Speaker 1: on his gun and ship. But then theod guys from Compton,
Speaker 1: they know a cop named Bookman. Shouldn't you Eric Parrott
Speaker 1: and somebody you grew up. Would you hated him more
Speaker 1: than any cople on cop Ponies for because and he
Speaker 1: grew up? I know what he was so so that
Speaker 1: that you know, Well back back to the initial topic here,
Speaker 1: Jay Z's is requested to do two things. Coordinate entertainment
Speaker 1: and then work with social justice initiative. What does that
Speaker 1: mean dealing with the the Neiler situation or I think
Speaker 1: the NFL plans was certified a million dollars a year
Speaker 1: or something like that to to go to different benefits.
Speaker 1: And and he makes a good point that the one
Speaker 1: point that I did hear him say, he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's nice. When you have Super Bowl, you'll go in
Speaker 1: donate a bunch of money to some foundations in there
Speaker 1: and build some houses. He said, but you'll want to
Speaker 1: do that. I know all Star weekend they do it.
Speaker 1: So whoever, they go build some houses in the community.
Speaker 1: And he said, but you'll want to do that when
Speaker 1: y'all there as a whole to take over that community.
Speaker 1: Why can't we do stuff throughout the year for the community.
Speaker 1: So hopefully he gonna implement things where they're doing stuff
Speaker 1: the community. Because you can't call him, you can't call
Speaker 1: him a shell out because she's doing a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: We gotta see what he's gonna do. We gotta get
Speaker 1: a chance to see what he's doing. And now if
Speaker 1: he flipped the strip and he over there and then
Speaker 1: he just don't suck this up, jay zactly, don't all
Speaker 1: us brothers? Yeah, we kind of jay Z. Hey, jay
Speaker 1: Z could either be more popular or this could be
Speaker 1: the best business decision he ever made or the worst.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be no one between with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna make a breaking but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about perception. Yeah, you know, just you know a
Speaker 1: lot of black stuff. That's what's the perception. You lose
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We got
Speaker 1: to remember what the kneeling thing was about, and that
Speaker 1: was UM and that was about bringing UM awareness to
Speaker 1: the police brutality and shooting and stuff, and we all
Speaker 1: know about it now. So the kneeling did his y'ab
Speaker 1: Now where do we go from there? I just think
Speaker 1: a lot of should have been looking out for Kavin
Speaker 1: Nick because he did his thing. But look, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: still on the sidelines. We're gonna be knowing, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing cap for a long time captain, maybe senator
Speaker 1: or Congressman's one day that cap got paid nicely. You
Speaker 1: noticed he never he never disclosed it. He's still doing
Speaker 1: the stand though. He cool brother, Yeah cool. You know
Speaker 1: he's dating uh a woman that was dating a teammate previously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she she's the calls. She's the one that got
Speaker 1: him all in trouble and got him all in She's
Speaker 1: she's a real rebel into this. Yet she's the one
Speaker 1: that was posting stuff and getting him fired from job
Speaker 1: before he even got the interview. But she didn't look
Speaker 1: at me with her Yeah, yeah, she well, well she's
Speaker 1: the activist. You know, she's from Oakless from ship is
Speaker 1: our phone? Yeah, she's yeah, alright, anything else on we
Speaker 1: want to say about jay Z and Caperne. You think
Speaker 1: their relationship is gonna get strained now? I hope. I
Speaker 1: hope jay Z was smart enough to work that out,
Speaker 1: which I think he will Eric read and then when
Speaker 1: they're gonna push for it to happen and you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully Lebron and they'll get jay Z smart enough to
Speaker 1: get it out. I hope he didn't still us out
Speaker 1: for some ownership in the team, like it's being reported, Um,
Speaker 1: jay Z got the ball in this court. We we can't.
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to listen to um anybody
Speaker 1: that that that that explained it, well, listen to Big Mike.
Speaker 1: Big Mike explained it real well, how we need to
Speaker 1: give him a chance? Him and Stephen a smell. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a big micro kill killing Mike. I'm sorry killing.
Speaker 1: He did a good job on I forget the name
Speaker 1: of the talk show that I saw him on than
Speaker 1: he he said, Hey, let's give him a chance. Let's
Speaker 1: see where do you go? Yeah, let's give jay Z
Speaker 1: a chance. Let's not call him to sell out. Let's
Speaker 1: not undermine the job that he has. Now, maybe something
Speaker 1: good might come out of this. Um, I know it
Speaker 1: does look a little let's look a little shady to
Speaker 1: see him sitting there next to Goodell, And he seemed
Speaker 1: a little insensitive in that press conference, like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: already know the problems. Now let's move on to something else.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that simple. I mean, there's three
Speaker 1: years know that one what he's talking about. He was
Speaker 1: talking about the Nilly, but he was talking about the
Speaker 1: ni But why is the kneeling occurring because of the
Speaker 1: awareness who's not aware there's five people sitting in this room.
Speaker 1: Who is the five people that's in this room right now?
Speaker 1: I think the awareness is for American white America that
Speaker 1: watches the NFL games, and most of white America does
Speaker 1: not care about officer involved shootings of black people. You
Speaker 1: know they're where have you listened to Fox News? And
Speaker 1: they might not care, but they're aware watching Fox News,
Speaker 1: caring and wearing no watch Fox News and watch how
Speaker 1: they cover this story. I don't watch Fox News. I'm
Speaker 1: not republic. You should hear the stuff they say about Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: about the whole kneeling. They don't give an f about that,
Speaker 1: And that's what Kaepernick wants. Kaepernick wants the white person
Speaker 1: to care. They are aware, They are aware of why
Speaker 1: they did it and why we did it. They are aware,
Speaker 1: they know why we did it. Now, what do we
Speaker 1: go from there? How do we change their perception from there?
Speaker 1: And that's the task that jay Z has given well.
Speaker 1: I think the controversy about Colin kaeper mcneilan became so
Speaker 1: much about him being defiant against the team or against
Speaker 1: the NFL. You're making millions of dollars, Why do you
Speaker 1: want to do this, and nobody was talking about officer
Speaker 1: involved shootings. They were just talking about why is this
Speaker 1: guy so defiant? How doesn't he be happy? Like hearing
Speaker 1: yourself talk? They are aware, now, why folks, everybody is aware.
Speaker 1: They are aware. Now I'm not saying that they did
Speaker 1: anything or they corrected it, but they are aware. They
Speaker 1: know why they were nearly and you know how many
Speaker 1: pundits go on Fox News and say it's untrue that
Speaker 1: black people are getting shot by police at a higher
Speaker 1: rate than other people. They don't believe that. That don't
Speaker 1: mean they're not aware of the reason for CAPS demonstration. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope something good comes out of it. Like you
Speaker 1: said earlier, we need to have a universal way of
Speaker 1: investigating officer involved at the federal level. If not the federal,
Speaker 1: at least the state level. At least at least the
Speaker 1: state should investigate l A p D, l A County
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department, not them investigator our unit, you know, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the c HP because the
Speaker 1: state level of c h P, cops c HP is
Speaker 1: not that bright, you know, But I understand a level
Speaker 1: of investigators that can do it. At that level. They
Speaker 1: have that power under the Attorney General of the State
Speaker 1: of California. I'm still staying under the But then the
Speaker 1: presidents started controlling the you know, because we see how
Speaker 1: the president controls the Justice Department. Now the problem, well,
Speaker 1: this problem is going on before the Mr. Trump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably before you. I think Kaepernick did the new before.
Speaker 1: Who's going before you? All right, let's move on to
Speaker 1: another topic here, uh, kind of related because it's directly
Speaker 1: related and why p D officer Daniel Pantelio was fired
Speaker 1: finally this week for administering the chokehold on Eric Gardner
Speaker 1: after the Justice Department decided no charges will be filed
Speaker 1: against NYPD officers. So why did they're firing? Well, the
Speaker 1: chokehold is an illegal tactic. It's it's illegal l A
Speaker 1: p D, it's illegal NYPD. There are actually some departments
Speaker 1: that haven't banned it, but it was banned by the NYPD.
Speaker 1: So why is this guy using a band tactic? Now?
Speaker 1: So if he used this tactic in his in his
Speaker 1: band and he kills somebody using this technique, why wasn't
Speaker 1: need charged from murder great point, great point at least
Speaker 1: a second degree or manslaughter or something. I don't think
Speaker 1: he the leven if I use it illegal weapon to you.
Speaker 1: Let's should I go to jail. Let's take out of
Speaker 1: the reason because I have a problem with his reach,
Speaker 1: his reason for approaching Mr Gardner, I have a problem.
Speaker 1: Let's explain to all those who don't know what happened
Speaker 1: that day, this guy was out out front of a
Speaker 1: store selling some loose cigarettes. I have a problem with
Speaker 1: that approaching. That's just like we have a section in
Speaker 1: the city when I was a cop called Lottery where
Speaker 1: a guy standing on the sidewalk. What you know, Grandma
Speaker 1: got tired of people sitting in front of their houses
Speaker 1: and all of that. So you have to deal with them.
Speaker 1: But it's how you deal with them, you know, just
Speaker 1: run them off or whatever. So my point is to
Speaker 1: approach this man that aggressively for some selling some loose cigarettes.
Speaker 1: I have a problem with all right now. But when
Speaker 1: I'm in a fight with you and you resisted me,
Speaker 1: ain't no rules of fighting, ain't no rules. I don't
Speaker 1: give a fun now. We ain't trade that good. We
Speaker 1: ain't just training three. That was a big boy and
Speaker 1: they all didn't have him because just one guy him
Speaker 1: on the ground. I'm not trying to go to go
Speaker 1: home hurt. But this is what I'm saying. At some
Speaker 1: point they are watching this man losers light down here
Speaker 1: on the ground right. This man is can't breathe no more.
Speaker 1: He said, I can't breathe. You can't. When you can't breathe,
Speaker 1: you cain't talk, you can't, you ain't looking where he did. Well,
Speaker 1: that's because they broke his uh his Adam apple with
Speaker 1: the if they know the man is losing his life here.
Speaker 1: Like I said, when you start resisting, when the fighters on,
Speaker 1: the fighters on as a cop Okay street, anywhere there's
Speaker 1: no rules, there's no rules to fighting. When you're trying
Speaker 1: to trying to fight somebodey, I think I think that
Speaker 1: the police should should find somewhere to train better. They
Speaker 1: try to teach you what they call the CD and
Speaker 1: then taking people down. I have looked at the scene.
Speaker 1: I have seen the police man got white dude with
Speaker 1: a stick and the police is trying to chalk this
Speaker 1: dude down. Chalked this dude down. Now while he trying
Speaker 1: to chalk this dude down, I'm just think if it
Speaker 1: was me with this stick, they're gonna have their guns out.
Speaker 1: They changes out and everything else. It's something totally different.
Speaker 1: How many times they hit Rodney King before he finally
Speaker 1: should Dude, man, you're gonna move if you get hit.
Speaker 1: Reggie if if that man was resisting, resisting on the ground, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't putting his hands behind his back by
Speaker 1: cup like no, unfortunately hurt. And that's why people stopped
Speaker 1: after one or two to right founding and founding stop resisting.
Speaker 1: Stop you can't stop. And they know this. The judge
Speaker 1: and then the stuff even said okay, we'll only finally
Speaker 1: get there after about strike eight. You can't remember that thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you got twenty police officers four three's
Speaker 1: only three. Okay, let's say how many of us them
Speaker 1: on that on that case, you got four police officers on,
Speaker 1: you got three of them being the ship out. You
Speaker 1: just say they stopped hitting you. You still tend stop.
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna tell you turn around and put your
Speaker 1: hands behind your back. You didn't broke my goddamn rist.
Speaker 1: I can't We're back to running. No, I ain't talking.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about policing. The police say when they
Speaker 1: grab you and stop resisting, I'm standing here like this
Speaker 1: and they say stop resisting. Every recording you see are
Speaker 1: here the police the first thing they say stop and
Speaker 1: then now that aren't they trying to say stop resisting.
Speaker 1: They're saying a new thing now. But they reaching from
Speaker 1: a gun. Stop that's in the fight. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: stopping from my gun. Ain't no one reaching for no guns.
Speaker 1: That's so they no, that's true, stop reaching for my nigga.
Speaker 1: Tell him to stop, but stop resisting. Stop exactly the
Speaker 1: first thing the police said to you when when they
Speaker 1: beating you up, been choking you out, is stopped resisting.
Speaker 1: I can't move, I can't put my hands in some situation,
Speaker 1: in some situations like that, but you acting like nobody
Speaker 1: ever fight back with the police. I didn't say that
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. But all the ones that we
Speaker 1: have on camera, how many will you say was fighting back?
Speaker 1: If he was fighting, he wasn't putting his one behind
Speaker 1: that back fighting back and he was swing. That was
Speaker 1: a big boy and they had to take him down
Speaker 1: if he would have put his hand on his back.
Speaker 1: And when it is laid down like saying that, he's
Speaker 1: still be alied over some Lucy's I said, I had
Speaker 1: a problem for the approach. I wouldn't hell that way
Speaker 1: behind those loose cigarettes. But in some things I would
Speaker 1: approached him like that. On if he was wanted for
Speaker 1: a crime or something like that and he didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to jail, then he would have got dealt
Speaker 1: with like that. But for cigarettes, I wouldn't to deal
Speaker 1: with him like that, Okay, but he died for it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got six family guy. I launched the life because
Speaker 1: he was resisting. He wasn't cooperating. But you should be
Speaker 1: able to resist and not die. You should be able
Speaker 1: to resist. Death should not be the punishment for resisting
Speaker 1: and arrest for selling. Lucy's simple as that breaking somebody out.
Speaker 1: One officer only choking him out when it was four
Speaker 1: more than there, because we don't they're gonna do. They
Speaker 1: all all the choking, all of them. You don't even
Speaker 1: put his hands, but they were trying to. They were
Speaker 1: trying to. That dude was just on his bag put
Speaker 1: up the video I want and that dude by hisself,
Speaker 1: and he just choking the ship that was on him
Speaker 1: him and obviously had some problems to choke. You can't
Speaker 1: you can't apply the barroom chokehold on him. He did
Speaker 1: and he broke all right, so that was correct, you know,
Speaker 1: against procedure, not long, but procedure against procedure procedure because
Speaker 1: they have they've been having a lot of choke cold
Speaker 1: situations where you broke that the Adam apple, but they
Speaker 1: teach you not to do it like that. Okay, So
Speaker 1: the man lost his life by him using the legal procedure.
Speaker 1: Then they fired him and posed of charging him with
Speaker 1: murder because he didn't do anything wrong, but went through
Speaker 1: a departmental The only reason why that man died, it's
Speaker 1: because he used that legal choke old correct, so he
Speaker 1: didn't cl That don't make you cram if you that
Speaker 1: don't make you criminal, California. That don't make you criminal.
Speaker 1: If I'm driving a hundred miles an hour down, down, down, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm driving a little bit faster sixty five or seven,
Speaker 1: well I've bought seventy you know a street or and
Speaker 1: running over somebody. Yeah, I'm breaking the low right, but
Speaker 1: you should I go to jail for that. Where you
Speaker 1: say this, if you're doing seventy five in the thirty
Speaker 1: and you killed somebody, he's getting man slaughtered because you
Speaker 1: knew you shouldn't have been doing that, right, But if
Speaker 1: the man wouldn't just say hey, yeah, yeah, I'm tired
Speaker 1: of you talking, And if he would have throw the
Speaker 1: cigarettes down and put his hands behind his back like
Speaker 1: any of us would have done, well, you can't even
Speaker 1: make that because you don't know exactly what happened at
Speaker 1: the point where he Well, they have some type of history,
Speaker 1: but we don't know that, So we can't speculate that
Speaker 1: he should have just put his hand behind his back
Speaker 1: if he approached him, Because he's said, if a cole
Speaker 1: come up to me right now, I said the way
Speaker 1: he approached problem. So what if he just walked up
Speaker 1: to him, grabbed the cigarettes, and took off on him.
Speaker 1: That's the confrontation right there. Who take off? Well, then
Speaker 1: what the jail for that? You went to jail for anything?
Speaker 1: But when I have a legal reason to arrest you
Speaker 1: and put handcuffs on you and you resist it against
Speaker 1: the law of ship with single apparently, Yeah, well, let
Speaker 1: me let me respond to what you just said, Reggie,
Speaker 1: because it makes me think about the Johannes measure lyag case,
Speaker 1: the guy that killed Oscar Graham. A court actually determined
Speaker 1: that Johannes measuredly. The Bark police officer that shot Oscar
Speaker 1: Graham in the bag illegally detained him in the first place.
Speaker 1: That detained should have never even happened, and that's why
Speaker 1: Johannes measually end up going to prison, not necessarily. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we don't know. It's what the cops, the NYPD
Speaker 1: officers were doing to Eric Garner, if that was the FBI,
Speaker 1: the Justice Department, the State of New York, everybody that investigated.
Speaker 1: There's a reason for doing it. They found out it
Speaker 1: was it was breaking the law. Well, it's like breaking
Speaker 1: the law like speeding or whatever. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's an a fraction of Mrmeaner or what. But he
Speaker 1: was still what's supposed to put his hands behind his back.
Speaker 1: But all the young kids and everybody says cameras, everybody
Speaker 1: want to fight the police back and everybody want to
Speaker 1: be I see some STFF for everybody. I'm taking you
Speaker 1: up to man number one. Cops need to learn how
Speaker 1: to uh. But once I got something to arrest you for,
Speaker 1: game over, game over, that's all they're looking for for
Speaker 1: you to threaten them do something, they do it. That's
Speaker 1: why you gotta watch what you say and how you say,
Speaker 1: because they're just standing there taking all that abuse. So
Speaker 1: when you slip up and threaten them, gonna say something
Speaker 1: like that. Now, now the custom going, Well, they're trying
Speaker 1: to take this abuse, they're trying to deal with the public.
Speaker 1: You can curse the police officer in the you can
Speaker 1: curse them in their really cust in public, you can.
Speaker 1: You can. You can call a cop a pig in
Speaker 1: their face and they but he says, the fuck you
Speaker 1: mother if you call him a pig, and you know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's just like what about what about that
Speaker 1: cop that took that woman's phone when she was recording
Speaker 1: and he actually broke the phone and someone else was
Speaker 1: recording across the street. And I'm sure he probably got vandalism.
Speaker 1: He should have. That's vandalism. But nothing happens to these
Speaker 1: cops when you think about it. We don't know Johanna's
Speaker 1: measurally got one year in jail for chooting Oscar Grant
Speaker 1: in the back accident. It was an accident. I thought
Speaker 1: it was my taster. You know, that's the fear part.
Speaker 1: That's why you're telling you about the guys that are
Speaker 1: fear a lot of you guys are are scared of
Speaker 1: you guys. We could say black lives matter. We can
Speaker 1: say that to them, apparently, and don't. Just some police
Speaker 1: and some people, some of them white people out there,
Speaker 1: don't give him a funk about our skin color, don't
Speaker 1: care period. How many videos have you seen, James and
Speaker 1: Reggie of white people acting a fool in front of
Speaker 1: the police, and they're giving them the benefit of the doubts.
Speaker 1: So many they're giving them the benefit of the doubts,
Speaker 1: so many. A lot with black kids were acting a
Speaker 1: food and talking ship where I would have been invited
Speaker 1: and been in the federal penitentiary to be honest, I mean,
Speaker 1: they just took this mash maybe. But now you gotta
Speaker 1: adopt to the times I'm talking about. I come from
Speaker 1: being a cop in the eighties and the nineties when
Speaker 1: it was a little bit different. You ran from the
Speaker 1: police what you got, and I asked, it was expecting.
Speaker 1: Prior to Rodney King and all of that cops, it
Speaker 1: was expected, but you would have had learning and adjust
Speaker 1: to it and understand the cops. You know, hopefully they
Speaker 1: didn't learning adjust You think you should be just yes, sir,
Speaker 1: uh sir, here's but complying. Here's my name. You know
Speaker 1: I don't comply all the time because you don't have
Speaker 1: to talk. The police came, just pull you over and
Speaker 1: say the crime that they have, they have ification on you.
Speaker 1: You know, you got your top of each other. And
Speaker 1: if you and the listeners are gonna have hard time
Speaker 1: understanding exactly what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, yeah,
Speaker 1: when the police pull you over, if they're talking to you,
Speaker 1: cool man, cooperate talk to the police. Don't. You ain't
Speaker 1: gotta be an asshole, and you ain't gotta get into
Speaker 1: no confrontation. That's the most and foremost thing you don't
Speaker 1: want to do is be confrontational with the police because
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna win. And nine times I'll attend this
Speaker 1: is what happened. You might just lose your life dealing
Speaker 1: and making the police mad at you because you might
Speaker 1: give one of them racist officers, which we all know
Speaker 1: that they out there that might take offense to being
Speaker 1: called a certain kind of name by a black person,
Speaker 1: which you your male or female. They're picking up and
Speaker 1: they they're shooting women, they sucking embody slamming our sisters.
Speaker 1: You see it all on TV. But we we gotta
Speaker 1: do better with ourselves opposed to sitting here and then
Speaker 1: just taking off on these police officers. We're not in
Speaker 1: a winning situation when it comes to that, so we
Speaker 1: gotta stop and think it ain't that serious. A traffic
Speaker 1: tickets is a fucking traffic ticket. Let's take it as
Speaker 1: that paid. If you don't want to pay, sit down
Speaker 1: and count of Jim, do the chime and what I
Speaker 1: always say, Learn where to pick your battles at. That's
Speaker 1: all that's all I ask for, and that's all I'm
Speaker 1: trying to train people to pick where you pick your
Speaker 1: battles at. You know, I learned red that you can do.
Speaker 1: You can deal with the worstest police officer. You can reply.
Speaker 1: You can say yes sir, You can say yes officer,
Speaker 1: the whole nine. If he feels like he want to
Speaker 1: funk with you, he's gonna do it regardless of what.
Speaker 1: When he tells you to turn around when he kicked
Speaker 1: your legs, man, you don't have to do me like that.
Speaker 1: I'm replying to what you asked me. I turned around
Speaker 1: my hands on the car. You don't have to kick
Speaker 1: my legs where I fall. You have officers that do
Speaker 1: that they go to the extreme if they come out
Speaker 1: on the beat that night and in that way, that's
Speaker 1: how they're gonna be tonight, all right, the executive producing
Speaker 1: honestly once the time in sorry inter ref Fellers, I
Speaker 1: just want to ask the question. So, if I'm a
Speaker 1: law abiding citizen and I see a police officer handling
Speaker 1: my mom or my wife in a certain kind of way,
Speaker 1: and I intervene, do I have any recourse of action?
Speaker 1: Because that's like, at the end of the day, he's
Speaker 1: a man, just like I'm a man with a job.
Speaker 1: But I can't sit up there and living whooping my
Speaker 1: wife and my mama. You might want to put him
Speaker 1: in that chokehold, get him from the back, and get
Speaker 1: him off your mama, exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like you gotta get have to be and defend yourself.
Speaker 1: Now that ain't defending yourself, and that ain't defending her
Speaker 1: if she's doing something wrong. UM and you plan and
Speaker 1: you um and you UM don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: I don't want to have a problem with, you know,
Speaker 1: dealing the pan with my actions for for my crime.
Speaker 1: If if that happens, that goes, that goes Why why
Speaker 1: did they put me in that situation? You have to
Speaker 1: do that. I've seen police officers. I'll tell you a story.
Speaker 1: One time I was in North Long Beach, parked in
Speaker 1: front of my career, but I was living there them
Speaker 1: that was a while. I was a young dude back then.
Speaker 1: Dude gave me a ticket. I said, cool, whatever, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, part the car across stree. He
Speaker 1: was over there writing me another ticket, like he was
Speaker 1: arrest me. So I went around the corner and I
Speaker 1: had a little bit of money at that time, and
Speaker 1: he was out there, you know, parked in the side.
Speaker 1: So I want to bought a box of donuts. I said,
Speaker 1: here you go, man, you're doing so much working that
Speaker 1: I got a box of donuts for you. The next day,
Speaker 1: that man showed up at my door talk about, by
Speaker 1: the way that you know, you had a warrant for
Speaker 1: your arrest and ninety two. I said, man, ninety two.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even driving and I was going to school
Speaker 1: in New Mexico state. He came with somebody with a
Speaker 1: name that was close to mine, and they showed up
Speaker 1: there and took me to jail. And I was outside.
Speaker 1: This brother rode up on a motorcycle, true story, and said, man,
Speaker 1: just do what they say because I'm here. They was asked.
Speaker 1: They was mad at him for coming. He followed me
Speaker 1: way to the police station downtown Long Beach. They was
Speaker 1: gonna pack me out. She what happened. He was just
Speaker 1: checking you to jail for full He was working with you.
Speaker 1: You got on this side. You try to be a
Speaker 1: smart ass, and he was showing you that I'm a
Speaker 1: smarter ass than you. And he rode by my house everything.
Speaker 1: But you're showing you he got the pen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got the pen. I can put you in jail. I
Speaker 1: can make you ship in jail now for twelve twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. And that's the worst thing to do. I
Speaker 1: was a company the same age as most of the
Speaker 1: guys that that I was policing because I started at
Speaker 1: a young age. And he's all a little rid. You
Speaker 1: take that gun and bands off you, I'll whoop your
Speaker 1: ass U And I used to pull the pan out.
Speaker 1: Let's say, but this is what's gonna put your ass
Speaker 1: in the penitentiary, not this gun in his band. It's
Speaker 1: what story I tell. This is more powerful than this gun.
Speaker 1: In the bad We put more fucker's in the pen
Speaker 1: is the pen. So you're suggesting you could just say
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say on a police report and
Speaker 1: get someone a case like eventually, yeah, eventually I got
Speaker 1: to the cheerful. But that's my point. But she didn't.
Speaker 1: Can put your ass. Don't worry about that, carm are
Speaker 1: gonna come back on your ass down the line for using,
Speaker 1: for abusing that. I never in my life planet or
Speaker 1: did anything wrong. And you can talk to any of
Speaker 1: the guys that ever deal with I never planet or
Speaker 1: did anything on level. I gave niggas more breaks than
Speaker 1: I did. Um what what? What? What? We have something
Speaker 1: called letter of the law or spirit of the law.
Speaker 1: I probably operate a spirit or a law more than anything.
Speaker 1: My I got in trouble for not writing tickets because
Speaker 1: I used to pull people over and souf and they said, ORIGI,
Speaker 1: what type of people do you see a traffic accidents?
Speaker 1: And I'll be like good people usually at traffic said right,
Speaker 1: that's why you need to write them tickets, because they
Speaker 1: are the ones that out here, you know, driving unsafely
Speaker 1: and all of that, and need to be reminded of
Speaker 1: laws and stuff like that. It ain't the game bangers
Speaker 1: and the thugs that that you mainly see in traffic
Speaker 1: access and stuff like that. My point is, like that
Speaker 1: is you have something called spirit of law and letter law,
Speaker 1: and I operate a spirital law more than letter all
Speaker 1: than a lot of people. Well, I think the attitude
Speaker 1: of local law enforcement when they deal with people of
Speaker 1: colors just nasty all the time. Like for example, I
Speaker 1: got pulled over um on Washington Avenue in l A
Speaker 1: for speeding once, and everyone who knows how I drive,
Speaker 1: I never speed. They called me the slowest driver. So
Speaker 1: but this guy, I'm gonna escalade. He wants to pull
Speaker 1: me over. And he pulled me over before Officer Flowers
Speaker 1: from the south from Wulstra Division l APD. He pulls
Speaker 1: me over. He says, oh yeah, Alex, I'm pulling you
Speaker 1: over for speeding. I said I didn't speed, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you sped. I'm pulling over speed. It takes my driver elecense.
Speaker 1: He goes back to the car, his rookie partners just
Speaker 1: there staring at me. And I told the rookie good guy,
Speaker 1: said you're gonna let Officer Flowers the rookie officer, what
Speaker 1: do you expect that officers. No, this is not going
Speaker 1: to work. So anyways, he comes back to the car
Speaker 1: Officer Flowers. He says, Alex, just admit that you were speeding,
Speaker 1: won't give you the ticket. And now this to me,
Speaker 1: that sounds so unappropriate. So if I just tell you
Speaker 1: I'm speeding, you're gonna walk off. So I thought he
Speaker 1: was trying to run a trick on me. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't speeding, so he gives me the ticket. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I decided, you know what, I did a B line
Speaker 1: to Wilsher Division, spoke to the sergeant. I said, Officer
Speaker 1: Flowers is just inappropriate. Man. It was a female UM
Speaker 1: Watch commander and she took the ticket and she said,
Speaker 1: I'm ripping this up. Don't worry about it. Um you
Speaker 1: don't gotta pay this ticket. And I say all of
Speaker 1: this to say officer and Flowers just had enough, because
Speaker 1: that's because informant. That's why, Okay, nine times out of
Speaker 1: the chain, that officer with the na attitude every time
Speaker 1: you see, he's gonna always. Now, back then, I wasn't
Speaker 1: a professor. So when I get pulled over now, I
Speaker 1: still get pulled over in the same escalade I showed
Speaker 1: my state, I d cow State Long Beach professor. And
Speaker 1: you see how quick that attitude changes. Yeah, they they
Speaker 1: leave me alone. And unfortunately not all black people have
Speaker 1: something to use too as a buffer to get that
Speaker 1: attitude and they respect your position. They don't respect that
Speaker 1: because you was a college professor and they're scared h
Speaker 1: because you have some conflict. Tell you if you pull
Speaker 1: them over and they have a nastday after, you better
Speaker 1: write him a ticket because it's not they're gonna eventually
Speaker 1: be a complaint. And but then you have an officer.
Speaker 1: I was trained. Anybody ever asked you for a break
Speaker 1: and you can extend it to him. You give them
Speaker 1: that break. I got a ticket once for making a
Speaker 1: right turn on a no right turn on my birthday,
Speaker 1: so I gave him my driver's I made the right turn.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you couldn't make a right turn on
Speaker 1: the red light. And I said, uh, I said, you
Speaker 1: see us my birthday right. He said yeah, but you
Speaker 1: made a illegal right turn. I said, you're still gonna
Speaker 1: give me that ticket? He said yeah, absolutely. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I got a ticket on my birthday for making a
Speaker 1: simple right birthday, My birthday just passed a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago. Today is like birthday today. Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say you happy birthday to our uh our third
Speaker 1: half alright, one third but one third Reggie's birth there's
Speaker 1: in August too, yeah yeah, using Australia running around with
Speaker 1: all these So what else, um do we have to
Speaker 1: say about the situation with the officer Daniel Pintalo. Well, now,
Speaker 1: but he loses his job, can he still become a
Speaker 1: cop in another jurisdiction because he's not a felon, you know,
Speaker 1: so he can get hired again, and he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: ventually You're gonna hear about it. He's gonna ventually su
Speaker 1: and and they're gonna reinstate him, and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to retire. The problem is why you can't keep
Speaker 1: this cop on on the job. It is because he
Speaker 1: gotta walk a straight line. He can't do nothing because
Speaker 1: he ever did anything wrong or i mean his law
Speaker 1: enforcement contact. What you're gonna do? Kill me like you
Speaker 1: killed Eric Gardner? You don't even want you know, he
Speaker 1: could never be a copy again after that situation. He
Speaker 1: will just rather had gotten a death job or in
Speaker 1: pine shop or hidden somewhere, but um to stay. These
Speaker 1: that don't want the liability, But trust me, they're gonna
Speaker 1: eventually make a settlement with him. Do you think of police?
Speaker 1: Sure has to have a mentality of fuck it. We're
Speaker 1: dealing with people of color, of color of anybody. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't of anybody because of their race. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say that, but we gotta face it, y'all. Black
Speaker 1: folks a little bit more aggressive, and Mexicans a little
Speaker 1: bit more aggressive them some white folks. You gotta face it.
Speaker 1: Then the majority that we run into, especially the neighborhood
Speaker 1: yn especially where we're at. We we we were the
Speaker 1: right next, Black are harassed more, which is probably the
Speaker 1: reason for the aggressiveness in the in the in the
Speaker 1: type of neighborhood. Okay, you're going to the watch area.
Speaker 1: What's in the watch area? Black? A Mexican's right? You
Speaker 1: have hanging out, drinking, smoking, doing all types of stuff
Speaker 1: that that's quote unquote unattractive. You know, if you're a
Speaker 1: homeowner and own some homes where you go out and
Speaker 1: Orange County or somewhere, you don't see you have different
Speaker 1: type of They got problems, they got molesters. You got molesters,
Speaker 1: You got difference. You know my point. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so that's why they do more jacking and and and
Speaker 1: pushing and moving people, because that's what the people are
Speaker 1: complaining about. James and Reggie and Alex out there hanging
Speaker 1: in front of That's the type of cause. I don't
Speaker 1: call nobody in Corona where I live, saying James and
Speaker 1: Reggie and Alex and all of them are hanging out
Speaker 1: in front of my house. I ain't seen that yet.
Speaker 1: So when I lived in Content all the time, my
Speaker 1: grandmother and now couldn't pull in the driveway. Now, most
Speaker 1: guys are respectable, most of them are. But a lot
Speaker 1: of people just don't want to always have to. And
Speaker 1: I'm scared to go visit Jane over over Reggie house
Speaker 1: because James and Alex and I'm always out front and
Speaker 1: all of that. They So basically, we create the jobs
Speaker 1: for the police. Sitting outside on the corner or on
Speaker 1: the sports drinking you just created or gave a police
Speaker 1: officer reason, or selling drugs, or breaking in houses or
Speaker 1: snatching purses and doing drive by shootings. We the Blacks,
Speaker 1: are creating these jobs for these police. The neighborhood wants
Speaker 1: to do it. James, what's your incident where you had
Speaker 1: a party every Friday night? Two hundred Blood members, two
Speaker 1: hundred Blood was getting the gun off of somebody there
Speaker 1: every time. But yeah, yeah, exactly. But my point is
Speaker 1: from the idiot, it wasn't a constant care. We didn't
Speaker 1: care about that. Guess what's complaining the neighbor right, Hell,
Speaker 1: I paid my bills just like they paid. They didn't
Speaker 1: pay for you to have two other people drinking and
Speaker 1: didn't when they wake up in the morning. The eight
Speaker 1: balls in the yard. Know when I was down the street,
Speaker 1: I didn't have nobody hanging out in front of the house.
Speaker 1: They were in the back. I had my gate locker
Speaker 1: with everybody from the bank. I'd have been there where
Speaker 1: they were blocking the people. If emergency would happen at
Speaker 1: the people house, they can't even get to get their car.
Speaker 1: If the man had to go to work down the street,
Speaker 1: you can even get a little yard because they're blocking
Speaker 1: blocking the street. Because you guys, I want I want
Speaker 1: people to understand, Brothers, everything that we do out there,
Speaker 1: we create these for the police. If we went out
Speaker 1: there selling dope, doing drive bys, robbing motherfucker's The police
Speaker 1: ain't got no job. They ain't got nothing to do.
Speaker 1: They ain't got nothing to do. Ticket if kickers ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be something, tickets, tickets, tickets get more money to
Speaker 1: the department down. They don't let you go to the
Speaker 1: county jail and shit on your ass for three days
Speaker 1: on those tickets they're putting, so you'll pay it. How
Speaker 1: many niggers out here got credit? Put that? That's what
Speaker 1: You can't get your license? And now you like to
Speaker 1: bedds you. But most people don't want to drive without
Speaker 1: suspended license. Most people ain't. Most people want to be
Speaker 1: right trying to be a part of society. Well, now,
Speaker 1: and you need it, but why try to be a
Speaker 1: part of something that they't even accept your ass anyway?
Speaker 1: That's even a big license. You need a license to her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you need a license. I thinke license is is? Um?
Speaker 1: License is a privilege. It's not. It's not a right.
Speaker 1: It's not a right. A drive line is not right.
Speaker 1: It's a privilege. It's a privilege, all right. Um. One
Speaker 1: more point on this officer being fired. One of the
Speaker 1: sergeant who was supervised supervising the firing of officer Daniel Pentalio.
Speaker 1: She herself today was docked twenty vacation days for being
Speaker 1: present or allowing the Eric Garners because you black to
Speaker 1: go for yeah and uh yeah, let me just say
Speaker 1: her name, Sergeant Kezi Adonis kai zaz why a black woman?
Speaker 1: She was just doctor twenty vacation days for allowing this
Speaker 1: officer to choke him out. No, I'm not, she was. Okay,
Speaker 1: here it goes. Sergeant Kezy Adonis will be vacation days
Speaker 1: for for failure to properly supervise former officer Daniel Panellio, who,
Speaker 1: according to a disciplinary judge, put Gardner in the department
Speaker 1: band chokehold, which contributed to his death. She was there
Speaker 1: on the scene. She was She could have said, I'm
Speaker 1: as a sergeant, stop stop this right now. But of
Speaker 1: course going to do that. You're not in the middle
Speaker 1: of fight. You can't do that. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: You're talking like the middle street motherfucker's You've got a
Speaker 1: police officer that we gotta look up to, and we're
Speaker 1: supposed to say. And they even complied, even complied, he
Speaker 1: said it. He said what when he said you couldn't breathe?
Speaker 1: The more he was supposed let him go, So try
Speaker 1: not to breathe and see if you can talk. That's
Speaker 1: the Reggie right Jokehold right there, So what do you
Speaker 1: think of twenty vacation days as her punishments overseeing the whole? No,
Speaker 1: that's not because let me just say why, Because if
Speaker 1: I'm a supervisor and a sergeant and another scene like that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be making sure you're playing by the books.
Speaker 1: When I know I ain't put a hand on Eric Gardner,
Speaker 1: ain't did nothing, and I lost twenty days. I don't
Speaker 1: lost the whole month to pay, because twenty days is
Speaker 1: a month to pay. But she's not losing any money
Speaker 1: vacation days. He's losing money. Wait a minute, let me
Speaker 1: bring you down for your edge. Here. You got a
Speaker 1: cop that that quit or got fired, but doing a
Speaker 1: legal chokehold now here. Even those salt just all on
Speaker 1: the wound with this lady. Twenty hours, twenty days, it's
Speaker 1: vacation days. Okay, Wait a minute, let me finish suspension.
Speaker 1: Now they have twenty goddamn days, twenty vacation days. She
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be at work, this is okay, And she pleaded,
Speaker 1: and she was there to this policy violation. She was
Speaker 1: there and allowed the new to choke him out. She
Speaker 1: just just guilty, is the motherfucker I was choking Oh
Speaker 1: my god, no, no, no, not in a fight. She
Speaker 1: started like the Stacy coon. She just give that cop
Speaker 1: is just give other one and the other one should
Speaker 1: have got got something done just like him. He didn't
Speaker 1: go to jail. It wasn't a criminal. He didn't go
Speaker 1: to jail. Wasn't a criminal act murder and the criminal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, let me choke my brother out. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this is a message all sergeants that exactly
Speaker 1: all they're gonna do is lose twenty days of pass.
Speaker 1: That's bad. They don't like that. For not doing that,
Speaker 1: you go home to getting indicted. Nobody got a sergeant
Speaker 1: the messages. If I'm a sergeant and I don't oversee,
Speaker 1: but trust me, if he would have got indicted for that,
Speaker 1: then she would have got dealt with as well. If
Speaker 1: they did something illegal, criminally illegal, not departmental. It's a
Speaker 1: two big difference, departmental illegal and criminal illegal. It's too
Speaker 1: big against department violations. It's still illegal departamental it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not no, it's not this man the death of
Speaker 1: another person illegally. It's not. It's not I'll call you
Speaker 1: if I can call you all of your name or
Speaker 1: fagin or a bit or something like that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get disciplined as a cop department violating the procedure is
Speaker 1: unethical or something like that. You know, I ain't going
Speaker 1: to the present for that. So this is this is
Speaker 1: a big difference. But a lot of people look at
Speaker 1: what this officer did as at least second degree murder
Speaker 1: that's illegal in the state of New York. I'm not
Speaker 1: up here he's wrong for the act that he would
Speaker 1: if he's that motherfucker was wanted for murder or something
Speaker 1: like that and the fight was on and he didn't
Speaker 1: want to put his hand behind it, I ain't had
Speaker 1: a problem. And I bet you he wouldn't have got indicted.
Speaker 1: The only reason I mean not indicted, he wouldn't have
Speaker 1: got fired behind his act. It's because it's fucking cigarettes.
Speaker 1: It's at least it's at least a man just wanted
Speaker 1: for murdering or something that that don't want to the
Speaker 1: fighters on wouldn't even an issue. It is because he
Speaker 1: was about cigarettes. Let's answer one of these questions from
Speaker 1: our online listeners. Um, someone actually wanted us to talk
Speaker 1: about what did we think about Glasses Malone's Tupac Must
Speaker 1: Die song that comes from c M instagram him, Reggie,
Speaker 1: I know you had him actually on your Bomb First
Speaker 1: show twice. UM, so I'll refer you to that. You
Speaker 1: guys talked about it in depth. The Gangster Chronicle listeners
Speaker 1: want to hear hear what we thought about that. James, Well,
Speaker 1: I talked to him before the song came out the
Speaker 1: video came out. Uh, I really didn't notice significant how
Speaker 1: deep it was the depth of it and made him
Speaker 1: talked and I told him pretty much people ain't gonna
Speaker 1: like what you say. Anyway. We talked for about maybe
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, maybe a little longer. Then I heard it
Speaker 1: on on Bomb First on your show, Ridge, and then
Speaker 1: I was like wow. I I didn't want to say
Speaker 1: nothing to nobody or come at him where he had
Speaker 1: think that I'm coming any wrong or saying something where
Speaker 1: we get into a conversation. I'm gonna talk to him
Speaker 1: by myself. So what I did is is contacted know
Speaker 1: him and tell him I want to talk to him. UM,
Speaker 1: and then just listening to the dudes. You can tell
Speaker 1: you are intelligent, you can tell he ain't. No, you know, no,
Speaker 1: just some dumbass game banger out there not understanding what
Speaker 1: people saying and how they feel about Tupac months Die.
Speaker 1: So he was he had on his own on bottom first,
Speaker 1: which that's what I liked it. But this Tupac months Die,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you you you woke him up and
Speaker 1: killed him again with that one. And this is what
Speaker 1: I told him, And and I had that second conversation
Speaker 1: was cool and and and we talked and and I
Speaker 1: think he kind of like grasped the concept of what
Speaker 1: I was saying. But then he got to be him.
Speaker 1: He got to be his own man and say, if
Speaker 1: I changed this, if I go bad with this, if
Speaker 1: I don't stand up from for my music, then who
Speaker 1: am on one thing you give you credit for. I
Speaker 1: don't heard him on several interviews that I ever had
Speaker 1: any even on some other ones he said, mob or
Speaker 1: James is the only person to ask me, ask me.
Speaker 1: I told him, you know, I mean, you need to
Speaker 1: change the name, he said, But James is the only
Speaker 1: person all of these people that I talked to, because
Speaker 1: he said, I didn't reach out the snoop. I didn't
Speaker 1: reach out to a whole bunch of people, Trayvon, I
Speaker 1: don't talk to everybody, but some of the outlaws. I
Speaker 1: reached out to all of them before I just came out.
Speaker 1: He said, But James, the only want to ask me
Speaker 1: to change the name. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're still a man after the end of the day.
Speaker 1: This is this is I mean, man, I Drew Picasso.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me it ain't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he pretty much. I mean, you gotta freedom to
Speaker 1: do what the fun you want to do. Your perception.
Speaker 1: Oh well, but just talking to him, he just don't
Speaker 1: seem like seem like that cat to come off and
Speaker 1: say to me, this is me personally to say, man,
Speaker 1: I was just saying fuck tupuck and I was trying
Speaker 1: to try to stick straight up his ass. He didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like that to me. I just he
Speaker 1: just My whole thing was, Okay, you don't know Orlando.
Speaker 1: You went over there and you got your information from
Speaker 1: his homies and then you put it together. You don't
Speaker 1: know where Anano was thinking at that time. Nobody knows
Speaker 1: what Thelando was thinking when that fact broke out, that
Speaker 1: damn Jim and that ship happened. One thing you can
Speaker 1: say is that motherfucker said, I gotta get these motherfucker's back.
Speaker 1: I gotta get these motherfuckers back. And it was there
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the video because basically he had its
Speaker 1: own point on point but creative. The problem was Tupuc
Speaker 1: must die. But even if it's from the perspective or
Speaker 1: from Orlando, because that's what he's saying, that's what man,
Speaker 1: he's a cry. You don't know what. I think it's
Speaker 1: a crypt car move he's promoting or showing how much
Speaker 1: to his you know a dude that's on the same
Speaker 1: card he's on. He says, that's not the reason. I think,
Speaker 1: that's what it's from. The thing I had a problem
Speaker 1: was was the name. I gotta me being his manager,
Speaker 1: I gotta I try gonna stay out of it. But
Speaker 1: this they didn't have nothing to do with that because
Speaker 1: Glasses don't want to did almost every blood neighborhood's hood.
Speaker 1: Just like you don't get the crypt days, he don't
Speaker 1: get hood days with blood neighborhoods. That don't still mean that,
Speaker 1: that still don't mean that he don't play how much
Speaker 1: to his side on this one. I mean by him
Speaker 1: saying the ship about Snoop, that show you that he's
Speaker 1: he's on that just because he want to say Snoop
Speaker 1: is uh it's better than Pop. I mean when he's
Speaker 1: saying that he just that just loved for Kryp, He's
Speaker 1: not that type of dude. He a little bit more
Speaker 1: involved in that. We will tell you one thing with
Speaker 1: this record of this, don't be in our biggest weak lasses.
Speaker 1: Don't like probably like five or six offers like from
Speaker 1: major labels. Yeah, we're negotiating one off for label deal.
Speaker 1: This controversy is a motherfucker in immunities business. I heard
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the God say today and his partner that on
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club we're talking to Snoop that that was
Speaker 1: one of the most creative and they love the creativity
Speaker 1: of the video. I've told him might love the creativity
Speaker 1: all I said. The only problem in my head what
Speaker 1: it was the point. But if you're cloud chasing, or
Speaker 1: if you're just trying to get a reason to wait
Speaker 1: people up, something to throw at it, then he did.
Speaker 1: He did with your chief, He did with your but
Speaker 1: like like so many people love Tupac. So many people
Speaker 1: listen to Tupac and and and he didn't touch a
Speaker 1: lot of people. The title itself says, fuck you. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't You shouldn't have been here from Orlando's perspective, not
Speaker 1: from Glasses. This is no just the sand is from
Speaker 1: Orlando perspective. But how can you say whether it comes
Speaker 1: from from somebody else's men? Glass has talked about this,
Speaker 1: We talked about this, and and I understand exactly where
Speaker 1: you're coming from with it. But what are the people
Speaker 1: Donna think you? Boy? You've got so many people loving Tupac.
Speaker 1: They said you walking uh out of the theater. Oh
Speaker 1: that's mother said you must die and and try to
Speaker 1: do something joint. Well, people should not be mad at Glasses.
Speaker 1: They should be mad at Orlando Anderson. He's just doing
Speaker 1: a song reflecting his position. Man, I don't know why
Speaker 1: y'all think like this. Atlando Anderson is dead and been dead.
Speaker 1: Nobody can speak for the dead man unless I wrote
Speaker 1: a letter to and killed myself. If I go around
Speaker 1: Nipsey must die for that exactly. But but what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that that's what That's what I'm saying. I mean
Speaker 1: We all black man, right, And I'm just saying, respect
Speaker 1: each other even if we're dead. Brother, I know you
Speaker 1: did respect the brother or whoever has lost just like
Speaker 1: I don't care how he lost it. Let's respect him.
Speaker 1: I actually called you before the video came out. I called,
Speaker 1: did he respect that? Give him to change his name
Speaker 1: of this song? I sat with him in my living
Speaker 1: room and my living room to two glasses. I'm cool
Speaker 1: with everything else, man, but we can't see this, man,
Speaker 1: I said, because I brought off the Nipsey thing. I
Speaker 1: said Nipsey was your homeboy. Yeah, that might go work.
Speaker 1: Nipsey is Nipsey is your homeboy. If some young dude
Speaker 1: comes out five years from now when a Nipsey must die,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be ready to tear somebody gonna be ready
Speaker 1: to kill him. But that's that's just what I saved.
Speaker 1: You know. I heard that punk as Bootsey the day
Speaker 1: on last say well, I no, no, no, niggas did
Speaker 1: nothing at the park die. You're stupid motherfucker thirteen motherfucker's
Speaker 1: got shot and killed like the first. No niggas don't
Speaker 1: have no love for the love of him. That was
Speaker 1: me and KEP DDB. Dead now he was a part
Speaker 1: of it. Two Country asked the country, well, I thought
Speaker 1: the video was very creative, and glad you know better
Speaker 1: than that. You can't you can't take nothing from from
Speaker 1: his creativity. The way he did the video is exactly
Speaker 1: how Russell Pool and everybody else that was showing his
Speaker 1: video and these these these diagrams of how they pulled
Speaker 1: the car up. And I love the video. I love
Speaker 1: what did he invested his money went out about the car,
Speaker 1: you know, the similar similar to the exact I mean,
Speaker 1: I love what he did. I just didn't they I didn't.
Speaker 1: I personally didn't like the title, but I understand why
Speaker 1: he did the title. If I was managing him or
Speaker 1: on in that position, I would have been like, hey,
Speaker 1: any publicity and good publicity. That policy is publicity premius
Speaker 1: with his song like this whole idea actually came out
Speaker 1: a long time ago when the hold Takashi six nine
Speaker 1: thing was going on and they started hurting about he
Speaker 1: was gonna testify it was actually a thing about fake gangbanging.
Speaker 1: That's his whole stance that Tupac died fake gangbanging, and
Speaker 1: he showed it wasn't a disrespect the Tupacket wasn't then
Speaker 1: Tupac actually wanted his favorite rappers now snoopiss. Well, a
Speaker 1: lot of people kind of went in on Glasses if
Speaker 1: you looked at the comments. Good people, I think are
Speaker 1: more offended by but not understanding that this is a
Speaker 1: video a song from the perspective of Orlando Anderson. People.
Speaker 1: People were pissed before they even listened to the song
Speaker 1: because of the but once you listen to the song
Speaker 1: and you understand the video, everything was great, greatly done.
Speaker 1: I mean like like like his manager said, he getting offers.
Speaker 1: He got offers on the table from its quickly to
Speaker 1: dis submit a show of the lake. He see something old,
Speaker 1: he seeing smooth crazy because he knows that got dog
Speaker 1: on cryptical card, blue car, rear car stuff. Well, kudos
Speaker 1: to Glasses alone. Some people said he did this because
Speaker 1: he's trying to revive his career because DJ Quick got
Speaker 1: a problem with too. He was always mad that he
Speaker 1: holler alone meeting rose Brand so Quick you better stop
Speaker 1: it too. Well, I think he put out some quality music,
Speaker 1: and don't hate on Glasses if you see him in public,
Speaker 1: if you see him out there, that's not what he's
Speaker 1: about now. I give shots out to man. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's not about the title or none of this ship.
Speaker 1: The little brother trying to do his things and and
Speaker 1: and he found a way. If he did something else,
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's gonna be mad. And he ain't the first
Speaker 1: to do a title that somebody ain't gonna agree with.
Speaker 1: But I just think just touching on the Tupac, which
Speaker 1: Tupac is just like me and everybody else. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, you put your nose or
Speaker 1: some ship. You don't know this comforting mentality Monday get
Speaker 1: and and you it calls you your life. Yeah. Can
Speaker 1: he speak on that for left though it's hard. It's hard,
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not Uh yeah, I mean that
Speaker 1: that can go different ways. I can't speak for my
Speaker 1: dad Armies. I can't speak for it. He need to
Speaker 1: call it what he called. He did it for shot
Speaker 1: and it worked and hopefully get a deal from it.
Speaker 1: I like it because we have cool conversations, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I told him to come down here,
Speaker 1: just get on the show and let's do this ship.
Speaker 1: You know, I like. I hate. I hate that I
Speaker 1: wasted it on ball first and still doing it over
Speaker 1: their on Gates of Chronicles. But yeah I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, y'all, let's wrap up this episode.
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