WEBVTT - Jeremy “Prison Bae” Meeks

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<v Speaker 1>Celebrity book club. Okay, okay, Lazyes is.

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<v Speaker 2>Your host Stuffy of Sacramento Premiere Dan Dating Nights for

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<v Speaker 2>the Seed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We are starting in five four three two one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. I'm Kendra. I'm a nurse practitioner. I'm twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>and I live in Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Kendra, I'm Leanne. I'm a naval officer. I live

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<v Speaker 2>in the heart of Sacramento. I love dogs and I

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<v Speaker 2>love outdoor activities.

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<v Speaker 1>Leanne, you look so familiar to me. Huh, you were

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<v Speaker 1>not a reality or anything. Were you. Were you in

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<v Speaker 1>that baking show Northern California?

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<v Speaker 2>It's baked? No, I know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you on the Dailymail dot Com. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Felon guy, the hot guy.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Jeremy and he's actually my brother. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>My cross has been crazy and they've really invaded our

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<v Speaker 2>privacy because I'm a pretty private person. Of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so proud of him, as he is a very attractive

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<v Speaker 2>man and he's grown so much since prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's so cool. I'm a little scared, but a

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<v Speaker 1>little turned on too.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you bisexual? Oh? Hi, I'm le Anne. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>naval officer. I have two dogs. I live in downtown Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 2>I love kids, don't have any, and I love playing dodgeball.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty nine, I'm a nurse practitioner.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a beautiful voice?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Thanks? Can I just say something? You look like

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking know you from somewhere man.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever played dodgeball?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It used to be chairwoman of the league in Oakland.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's that man. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>know you from somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday's Trivia at Santa Fe Fusion Cosamigo's Kitchen and Craft Bar.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sober. I thought I know you from the

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<v Speaker 1>news man. Do you have like a hot brother or something?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That fellon guy, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Jeremy is my brother and I'm really proud of him. Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>the media is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I promised myself I would never date another

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<v Speaker 1>sibling of a criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Hey, I'm Leanne. I'm a naval officer. I have

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<v Speaker 2>two dogs. I live in downtown Sacramento. I played dodgeball

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<v Speaker 2>and oh no, I'm FOMCA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a nurse practitioner. You remind me of a foto

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen on Oh God, I speakl dot net

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<v Speaker 1>about to an American criminal and his interesting family.

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<v Speaker 2>God, what the heck can a lesbian, knifferent officer get

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<v Speaker 2>a little privacy? I didn't want to come out of

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<v Speaker 2>the army, Okay, I liked donas, don't tell and don't

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<v Speaker 2>get me wrong. Sorry, I'm really proud of my brother,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Meeks. We grew up really hard, and for someone

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<v Speaker 2>like you, a beautiful nurse practitioner, to read about it

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<v Speaker 2>on Jershkinskyle dot net dot d a.

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<v Speaker 1>So German media is famously invasive. We can both agree

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<v Speaker 1>on that topic. Perhaps it is the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>will bring us closer together. Here's my phone number plus

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<v Speaker 1>three seven all five.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, plus five plus three three.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus three seven, spy. That's actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Right off, lay crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like we have brought the foul of the law.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like my brother, I guess. I rarely make

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<v Speaker 2>jokes like that about him. I'm very proud of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wet.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's that knocking at the door.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got book a bottle of wine to kill.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Hollywood, it's books.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gossip.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's memoirs, martinis.

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<v Speaker 2>No boys are loud. Celebtoo, say it loud and pound

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrity book Club. Buzz me in. I brought the queer vow. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>best friend, how the hell are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so good As we slide into twenty twenty five, a.

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<v Speaker 2>New year, a new me, Stephen, Do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>new ideas I was wondering for this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Any new ideas?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that you want to get going? Oh, the business ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>I have tons of business opportunities and brand extensions that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on. We're actually doing a diffusion line of

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<v Speaker 1>T shirts, so they're actually even cheaper T shirts than

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<v Speaker 1>we already made.

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<v Speaker 2>They're being sold on to MoU.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I like went on to move for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever because you were like, fuck Amazon, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with the Chinese version.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking for kind of a gag gift and

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<v Speaker 2>it led me to to MoU and things got so crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I was in Vegas, like everything was spinning.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like it wouldn't even let me buy

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<v Speaker 2>the novelty item.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, because the website had so many pop ups and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Being like, you get another free gift, you get another

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<v Speaker 2>free pick more gifts, and then I was being so

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<v Speaker 2>stought machine and I was like, I picked I wou

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<v Speaker 2>actually like socks for you, but then it got like

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<v Speaker 2>too complicated that were just like, shut up, I'm gaming,

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<v Speaker 2>do not disturb, and then it was like you have

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five dollars more and I was like ah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I couldn't actually even purchase the original thing I

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<v Speaker 2>came on there for and I was like rash, just

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<v Speaker 2>deleting the app. But that was fun for two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's good that there is like this weird

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling of like interactivity on some of these horrible websites

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<v Speaker 1>that are only selling more bullshit capitalist consumer crap, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, actually, we don't need to be purchasing this,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the fact that we don't have the whatever

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<v Speaker 1>like gen alpha literacy to navigate this minefield of like

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<v Speaker 1>terrible ux and pop ups, I think is actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Good forever and then it makes us click out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh, I could just say This isn't for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't need these socks that much. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure if you really wanted to buy shut up I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gaming socks, you could find them on Yeah, I'm sure if.

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<v Speaker 2>I could really wanted those for you, I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Get them any We're all are surprised that they do

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<v Speaker 1>end up advice in my January stocking, which is another

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<v Speaker 1>thing we're doing this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Be the Winter Blues. We're doing January stock cakes. That's

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<v Speaker 2>so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, as we sort of slide out of Mlkday into inauguration,

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<v Speaker 1>Meek just I thought it would be good to turn

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<v Speaker 1>our attention to someone who hasn't been in the news

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<v Speaker 1>lely and yet is very relevant to so much of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're experiencing right now, Seriously, police brutality, modeling Monaco,

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<v Speaker 1>and people becoming famous for their criminal activity while also

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<v Speaker 1>being attractive and becoming.

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<v Speaker 2>Folk heroes for being hot.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the wrong side of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrem famous for being attractive and being naughty.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to Luigi Mangioni, it's like Lugi already feels

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<v Speaker 1>so last week, and I'm sure by the time you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, it's like no one's gonna hear no one's.

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<v Speaker 2>Know who he is or like he'll be president. Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have Luigi Mangioni becoming Secretary of Defense on

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<v Speaker 1>my bingo card.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, anyway, the segue to let's just announce it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was before Luigi went viral. He was hot for

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<v Speaker 1>kind of being the first, Like I mean, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the first viral criminal obviously, but he.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not the hot Felon.

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<v Speaker 1>No, There's been many hot felons, but he came to

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<v Speaker 1>prominence at a time in like midway through like the

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<v Speaker 1>second era of virality. Yes, Facebook, Facebook hot, Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it actually happened via Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened was you guys will know him as hashtag.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark shot guy or is it hot Felon.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Prison Bay shot guy, and then some

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<v Speaker 2>people call it him hot Felon. Of course, we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Jeremy Meeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And his book Model Citizen of Jeremy Meeks, And if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know, he's extremely symmetrical.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like crazy sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's half black, is what I'm gathering from the book. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the mom is white, yes, from the photos, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has like a tear drop tattoo. He is extremely modelist.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a high fashion look, strong, cheap bones.

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<v Speaker 2>Philips also like he already naturally, I feel like he

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<v Speaker 2>knows had a model He's someone who's literally born with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it also goes he has like light colored eyes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has this kind of like kind of like older.

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<v Speaker 1>Like steely gray blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's like, you know, he's giving this really

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<v Speaker 2>like poudy look.

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<v Speaker 1>He also like has a lot of tattoos because he's

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<v Speaker 1>in gangs and he's bad ass, so he's a crep,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think by the time this went viral, like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, like tattoos on models was already a thing

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<v Speaker 1>like that was like I mean cole More was like

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<v Speaker 1>in these leezer and have tattoos, and there was already

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<v Speaker 1>thing where like designers are like, wait, we want like

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<v Speaker 1>we hold on bad ass, we want models to have tattoos,

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<v Speaker 1>and like obviously now like all models have tattoos, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is weird to not have tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's like maybe the ones who had

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<v Speaker 2>tattoos were like more cold born, like badass, all bunk,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a little more like built abs. Yes, like

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<v Speaker 2>he can be like you know, a model on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he a little more jacked.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do a cologney.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not heroin cheek. No mama's looking healthy, bent to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym healthy. But I do think this speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen at all, where it's like he came at

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<v Speaker 1>like just the crest of tattoos in a factual way,

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<v Speaker 1>becoming mainstream but not insanely oversaturated, and like Facebook reality

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<v Speaker 1>being mainstream but not so over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right where it's like Facebook now, like no one's

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<v Speaker 2>even no one's going viral on Facebook, even like your

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<v Speaker 2>aunt who's on Facebook is like, oh, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>go on that anymore. I'm on threads. And no one

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<v Speaker 2>even really knew what he went to jail for. It

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<v Speaker 2>was less like weight this serial killer is yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly well, And I think what's interesting reading this book

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<v Speaker 1>is he realized he didn't really do that much.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't do like anything. I'm like, wait, what was

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<v Speaker 2>the crime? And actually that's what this book is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of about, is how it's sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Up the system is it's very it's very prison informed

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<v Speaker 1>down boots, and you know, he is the classic case

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<v Speaker 1>of someone who is just caught up in a system

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<v Speaker 1>that is really designed for him to lose, to loose.

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<v Speaker 1>So his mom was an addict. His dad was an

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<v Speaker 1>addict and a murderer.

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<v Speaker 2>So his dad I really guess at this part. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>his father did go ahead and murder his mom's best.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend because she wouldn't tell him, like where the mom was.

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<v Speaker 1>She was trying to protect the mom and not reveal

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<v Speaker 1>her location.

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<v Speaker 2>Magin.

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<v Speaker 1>He tortured her for hours and then murdered her.

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<v Speaker 2>If my girlfriend murdered you because you wouldn't tell her

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<v Speaker 2>where I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, I would tell I'm not sitting there letting your

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend torture me with god knows what. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what she's doing. I don't know what like sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>statues she's trying to sodomize me.

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<v Speaker 2>With what vintage like Japanese swords she has going on. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I would tell too, Actually, yeah, I would give up

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<v Speaker 2>your location in the.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just say this book feels like it's printed

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<v Speaker 1>on computer paper. Yet it's really it has that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like buttery quality that like that the pages are

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<v Speaker 1>very what Yeah, that's what I mean when it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like straight up like y'all went to stable.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a little nicely premium. Yes, okay, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>like the cheapest paper because there is a nice touch

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<v Speaker 2>to it, because I used to be obsessed as a

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<v Speaker 2>child with touching really good pages. I love or it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like I appreciate good binding and book making. But

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<v Speaker 2>sure he grew up, you know, and his mother's a

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<v Speaker 2>hero and autict And after the father went to jail,

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<v Speaker 2>and his lesbian sister Leanna, who heard us talking about

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<v Speaker 2>or impersonating it, the cold open. She know, she saw

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<v Speaker 2>this world and was like, there's no chance for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was like, fuck it, I'm gonna enlist in

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<v Speaker 2>the Army Air Force to be exact, so I can

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<v Speaker 2>like get out and start a life. And then she

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<v Speaker 2>adopted him and then his other siblings away from the mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of like Navy as being the gay division

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<v Speaker 1>of the Army, but it's like Air Force Oran Division.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see that kind of making sense. Navy is

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<v Speaker 1>also because Navy seems also lesbian to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but then when you think of it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like well watched, Yeah, but the outfits for female naval

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<v Speaker 2>officers are like a little bit more fem in this

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<v Speaker 2>fifties way because you get this little hat and they

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<v Speaker 2>make the shirts I think a little crop.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like a fly jumpsuit is the most like

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Kardashian outfit now, like a pilot jumpsuit is so

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<v Speaker 1>frill and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so like green and jump so straight. You're saying, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also though lesbian to be in like a fem

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<v Speaker 2>like to be them white, romp them by wild Gang

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<v Speaker 2>Fang or whatever. Anyway, there's one photo of Leanna you

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<v Speaker 2>can find. She looks a little more just like big

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<v Speaker 2>heathered college football T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, well yeah, because she's not like you're not seeing

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<v Speaker 1>her in her uniform.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wish I could down boy anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's by the time he's like ten, he's already

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<v Speaker 1>stealing his mom. Zima's love that detail, I know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Leanna is the sister that steps up and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking you out of this life, like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come live with me and I'm basically gonna be your

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<v Speaker 1>mom and raise you in Medicine Lake, Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hear that Medicine Lake, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I Dill, a town of three thousand people on

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<v Speaker 1>a gorgeous Lake and like central Washington state.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's surrounded by a lot of other lake towns.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he'll be like, oh, we will be at Long Lake,

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<v Speaker 2>or then we would go over to like this lake,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like how many lake towns are there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what we're learning low key is that central

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<v Speaker 1>Washington lakes up. Okay, move over Wisconsin and Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to just read a little passage about

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<v Speaker 2>Medical Lake for folks who don't know about Medical Lake.

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<v Speaker 2>Medical Lake was also pretty diverse the types of parties there.

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<v Speaker 2>On one end of town, you'd have a party in

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<v Speaker 2>a barn out in the woods, blaring country and shotgunning

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<v Speaker 2>Budweiser and next to a cow. On the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of town, you'd go to this big, gass house party

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<v Speaker 2>where everybody was hitting the Hennessy bottle, listening to hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop and freestyling, versus depending on your mood, you could

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<v Speaker 2>just go down lide hitting all these different spots. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this full ad for Medical Lake. I like whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you're into, whether it's country music and Budweiser or hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop and Hennessy, Medical Lake has it all for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Visit Medical Lake dot Washington dot net and have a

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<v Speaker 2>family there and have like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Diverse group of experiences from fishing to studying.

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<v Speaker 2>And he does like to fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he loves fishing, and he also love studying. What

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<v Speaker 1>I think is interesting is that early on he of

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<v Speaker 1>course say it with.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, reveals he has ADHD.

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<v Speaker 1>This I had a really hard time at school kids today,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're neurodiversity with pride. I mean, it's great they're

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<v Speaker 1>open with their peers about their disorders, but things were

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<v Speaker 1>not like that in the nineteen nineties. People were not

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<v Speaker 1>as educated about ADHD or about children victims, so basically

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<v Speaker 1>they put them on riddle in as they did with

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<v Speaker 1>many folks in the nineteen eighties, such as.

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<v Speaker 2>Yourself, such is my damn self. And it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a weird thing where I kind of wore it as

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<v Speaker 2>a badge of honor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, right as you were wearing your diversary.

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<v Speaker 2>I was being I'm like, oh, yeah, sorry, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to take my add medication because I'm so badass.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was explained to the school and to the

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<v Speaker 1>doctors that I wasn't a good place, and it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like a completely different person because the riddle in the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's response was to up the dosage. You have this

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<v Speaker 1>little kid here, barely functional, and you want to give

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<v Speaker 1>him more. But that's what they did back then. He's

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<v Speaker 1>acting like it was the nineteen fifties. They didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to fix it, they wanted to suppress it. I spent

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of my third grade year in a fog.

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<v Speaker 1>I could barely function in class, and I was constantly

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<v Speaker 1>falling asleep. They continued upping the medication, and I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up failing the year and having to repeat it. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is him basically being like, I'm the Paris Ultan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was over medicated, which is this book is

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<v Speaker 2>also about the pharmaceutical industry because later on right with

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<v Speaker 2>the back pain in the book, so he talks about

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<v Speaker 2>going to all these doctors and basically even though he.

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<v Speaker 1>Has back pain because he got beat up by a

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<v Speaker 1>rival gang in the streets of like the Bay Area

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<v Speaker 1>when he moved there with his sister when she got

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<v Speaker 1>transferred postmatical, well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess I've beaten with all these bats. And he's all

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, and his al one vertebrae is like consistently

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<v Speaker 1>out of whack. Another parallel to of course famous CEO Killerngoni.

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<v Speaker 2>Who couldn't make love because of his back pain?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I believe that. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>guy in a wheelchair you can definitely fuck a guy

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<v Speaker 1>with back pain.

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<v Speaker 2>These headlines have gotten out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you I have a friend of the pod

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<v Speaker 1>who will remain nameless, who I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he.

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<v Speaker 1>That I don't know if we're allowed to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do feel like he's had trouble making love

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<v Speaker 1>because of the back pain.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're allowed to say that, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>less revealing. I remember the first time I saw a

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<v Speaker 2>sex scene of a guy in a wheelchair, and it

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<v Speaker 2>blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when you were watching porn.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was a total eighties horror movie, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like this guy who's paralyzed waist down and this woman

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<v Speaker 2>puts him in a swing. Oh. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were like, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Good know, if I do get paralyzed, give me what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, dang related whoops, you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, he's kind of implying his joker moment is

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<v Speaker 1>the riddle in overdosage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that, but it's also like his mom being a

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<v Speaker 2>heroin autic and like him just wanting to fit in

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to pave a way.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first time he goes to Juvie and again

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<v Speaker 1>it's like he's never doing anything that bad. He never

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<v Speaker 1>talks about dealing drugs because he is dealing drugs, and

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<v Speaker 1>he like has these euphemisms word who's like I take

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<v Speaker 1>a lick or I was like spoiler, isn't like really

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<v Speaker 1>get into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Might also not be doing that for legal reasons, but

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<v Speaker 2>to me, the vibe by God is that he was

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<v Speaker 2>always kind of just like a low rung like gang

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<v Speaker 2>member that was like in a car where they're like

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<v Speaker 2>doing a drug deal and things go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first time he goes to Juvi though, he

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<v Speaker 1>goes because he got in a fight, which is like okay, fine, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he goes to Juvie and that's when he

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<v Speaker 1>starts meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>The crips and they're like, you should become a.

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<v Speaker 1>And he gets into crip stuff, although he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>says that that they weren't pushing it that hard and

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<v Speaker 1>he just wanted to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. I think he needed to a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of belong unity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what that offers. And I think now

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<v Speaker 1>more than ever and our technologically atomize an isolated world

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<v Speaker 1>that people will cling to any sense of community they

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<v Speaker 1>can get. And I think, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying there's less gangs because people are on their phones.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying there's probably whether it's a gang, or

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<v Speaker 1>it's ISIS, or it's Reddit conspiracy groups, like all these

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<v Speaker 1>things become that much more I think attractive because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have third spaces, we don't have physical communities, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know if him becoming a gang member is because

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't like enough like bowling alleys in Medical Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's so like we need to get our

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<v Speaker 2>kids roller skating.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if they're literally were more bowling alley

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<v Speaker 1>because he also says there wasn't anything to do but

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<v Speaker 1>get in trouble at Medical Lake. He literally says that true.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could see if I'm to put myself and

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<v Speaker 2>his shoes to kind of have a crew, be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can like be part of our brotherhood, is very attractive, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he was already on a bullying team, he

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<v Speaker 1>might not have been introduced by it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can turn back time. Okay, I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>bullying and you never joined a gang. No, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to join a gang, but I couldn't find a gang.

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<v Speaker 2>No gang, but have me not hardly with the bullying team.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, guys, yeah, sure, I'll carry a knife

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<v Speaker 2>when he guys up to club.

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<v Speaker 1>Club.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to jail, you know, multiple times, but then

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, he also talks about the juvenile system.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like, okay, this is like literally just like a

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<v Speaker 2>highway to jail, except for one judge who was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to put you in juvie because like

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<v Speaker 2>then this is just going to be like no saving

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<v Speaker 2>you from here, which was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was so interesting the part where he

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<v Speaker 1>talks about there was like one nice cop. Ever, where's

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<v Speaker 1>the one time he got pulled over when his like

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<v Speaker 1>wife was so wasted and crest the drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Was called audios, motherfucker. Okay, and by the way, that

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<v Speaker 2>was after them bowling, So bowling doesn't save.

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<v Speaker 1>No And that sounds like bowling really led to catasrophy.

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<v Speaker 2>But when bowling Alley starts serving cocktails. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>looked up what an audio's motherfucker is and it's basically

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<v Speaker 2>a Long Island iced tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah sounds like it. Wait, let's go to that day now.

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<v Speaker 1>So he starts sitting in this pog named Melissa.

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa, and so she's like a nurse at his jail,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, she's like doing examinations, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he gets transferred to the state prison, but she

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<v Speaker 2>starts writing him letters so romantic after that, being like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where this is going, but like they

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<v Speaker 2>just have this connection. This is also after he to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about like even though he's so like anti prison,

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<v Speaker 2>he is just like jails, though, are so horrible, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>at least like private prisons you can email and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been in Jerry's so he was being a little pro

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<v Speaker 2>private prison.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just saying, like there's more amenities, amenities.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I will never forget one of her first date nights.

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<v Speaker 1>So now he's married to Melissa.

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<v Speaker 2>Because letters work, So y'all maybe pen palet up okay?

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<v Speaker 2>For single?

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<v Speaker 1>Well what's funny is okay? But and then I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel like now like like I follow this Instagram that's

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<v Speaker 1>like hawkeys in Idaho State Prison. And it's always just

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<v Speaker 1>like these guys on like j Poll and like they

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 1>make these little videos on their phone and like there's

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 1>always like hundreds of thirsteen comments just being like damn daddy,

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>like pound me down, like yes, just like assault down boots,

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and like they're always like say what their crime is,

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and like a lot of the time it is they

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>are there for like violent assault, and people are still

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 1>just being like yes, like take me to church, like

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sused, yeah, and like all these gay guys are

0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>just being like uh girl, yeah, like what do you

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 1>speak for it? But I do feel like he kind

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of started the modern era of being like we are

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>fetishizing like hot criminals, criminals like which is extend.

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Eighties said early nineties was very national in choir. Penn

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Pal to prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but the only way you could do it was

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.199
<v Speaker 1>if you were that famous that you were in the

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<v Speaker 1>national in choir.

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<v Speaker 2>Like no they had ads, Oh they did, Yes. I

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 2>used to read it my grandmother Like Okay, you could

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 2>be like Charles Manson, who by the way, was literally

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>lived in the cell next to him, So it's like

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 2>you could be a celebrity in prison, like the Charles

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Manson and get letters. But in the National Choir. I

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 2>remember like in the nineties it would be like right

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 2>to a prisoner, and like it would be like you know,

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>silver Fox, Daddy blah blah blah, P seven three right,

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and then it was so many people in Jerry's Springer

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 2>always like being like I wrote to this guy in

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.199
<v Speaker 2>prison and then like we got married and then he

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 2>cheated on me and my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I bet he did.

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>So that was kind of the nineties, and then I

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 2>think the seventies era is like, you know, more than

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Ted Bundye Charles Manson more being like I'm your worshiper,

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like a crazy hippy girl and.

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>That kind of like it's just hinge. It's like you

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>can date someone in prison as easily as you would

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 1>date anybody else. It's like all happen on your phone,

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and like through the magic of private prisons, like they

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>can go they can go pay to just like read

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 1>there in box.

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>But they never sween him and Melissa is that they met.

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>They met, they met irl, which is like they had

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to meet cute, and then she wrote him like such

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a scented letter.

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 2>That was so like Britney spears fantasy.

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>So then they get married, he's out of jail. Blah

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. I'll never forget one of first date and

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>it's the marry couple, the local bullying all. They had

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>a drink called Audios motherfuckers. I don't know what it

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is about that drink, but every time I have one,

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I end up in jail. Melissa doesn't drink often, so

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>when she does, it hits her pretty hard. We were

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 1>on our way home and in her hyperactive, drunken state

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of mind, she popped me on the side of the cheek.

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I had a cigarette between my lips and it fell

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>right out of my mouth, so I stopped in the

0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>middle of the road to grab it and a cop

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>happened see me. I got pulled over and the officer

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 1>approach the vehicle. Explained that I was trying to get

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 1>my wife home and that yes, I've been drinking. If

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you get arrested while you're on parole, your parole officer

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>as assigned documents. Blah blah blah. The cop with me

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in the squad car and we talked all the way

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>to jail. When he said it'd be out the night,

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I laughed. I said, there's no way I'm going to

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>be a go out out until my PO came in.

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>After I was processed. I was shocked when I heard

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>them call my name to be released. As I walked

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>out to the dark parking lot, I saw the cop

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the patrol car and then I heard told

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you be out tonight. That was the nicest any cop

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>had ever been to me. If they all had kindness

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and decency like that officer, there would be a lot

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>less death on the streets. Unfortunately, even the good ones

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>turn a blind eye and keep silent when they see

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>their fellow officers using an excessive force. You always see

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that one standing off to the side with this look

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>on their face. They know what's happening is wrong, but

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>fear of going against police code stops them from standing

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>up for what's right, you know.

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's very true. It's like there's so

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 2>many people probably out there that are like, oh, well,

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I become a cop to be like the good one

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 2>on the force. But it's like they have such a

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 2>cop code.

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because a cop it's a fraternity and they're there

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to protect each other more than anything else, and so

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if there's that quote good cop, and

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's nice for him to have that one experience.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you're like nice cop. But it's like

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 2>then if he sees someone getting beaten, it's not like

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>this good.

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>And is literally the next time he has an audios motherfucker,

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>he gets brutally assaulted by the police and they beat

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>him to the Indian insta of his life and beating

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>And the wife too.

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, later and like for literally nothing, and it's so

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like there's nothing you can do about and.

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 2>They were waiting for him too. Yeah. He also says

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 2>the thing which is also very true, where he's like

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 2>time about the corrections officers where he was like they

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 2>would be so like jovial with us, but then like

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 2>churn on us like in a second, yeah, which is

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>so like the one time when I did good to rikers.

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I saw that when I was like

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>teaching acting to like trans prisoners, and it was like

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>so many corrections officers like joking so much with prisoners,

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and then it's just like they flipped the switch pretty fast.

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember one of the many times I was arrested

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 1>and you thought I wouldn't bring that up this episode,

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>but I would is that I remember one time in

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the squad car.

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 2>If you went bowling more, you wouldn't be arrested.

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. And I literally, you know, I'm bad

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>at bowling, no, I know.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 2>And like when we went bowling last year, you got

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>so upset.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got like frustrated because I'm like, why is

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the ball so heavy? Doesn't make needy sense because also

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 1>my fingers are mad for piano and not for bowling balls.

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>So I'm in the squad car and the cops were

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like making all these really homophobic comments to one of

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>my fellow prisoners, and he was in there and they

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>kept making all this stuff about you know, classic like

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>jokes about dropping the soap and how he was gonna

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>get fucked in prison and all this stuff. And I

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>was being like, it's almost like they're doing tubs of

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>un stone because they're trying to like make me feel

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable too, definitely, And then like I feel like my

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.719
<v Speaker 1>fellow prisoner then was like also kind of making jokes

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to me about me, like getting fucked in prison when

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>we were in separate cells, like and some point in

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the jail when there was no email.

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Or benefit, there was no receives, no Ben.

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>And Jerry's anyway, it's true where it's like you'd ever know.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like they're nice to you one second, but ultimately

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>like they are absolutely delighting and their dehumanization of well

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and just like.

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>You can even show even more power instead of if

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.120
<v Speaker 2>you're just mean and like beating someone all the time,

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>but if you get to be like, hey, I'm your

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>best friend. Oh now, actually watch me take that away

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 2>in two seconds.

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>So what's also crazy is the reason why he literally

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>does go to jail for what happens when he does

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>get the ultimate the mugshot prison Bay Pick is because

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>he's driving his son or nephew and he has a

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>gun in the trunk.

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he gets pulled over a routine traffic step

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and they find a gun and then he reveals that

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>he had the gun for protection, just being so street life,

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if like the bloods are going

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to pull up on me and I need to like

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>protect myself.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just crazy because it's just like, which is why

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you went to jail.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, possession, Yeah, possession of a firearm, just like Kamala

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I carry my glocula with me everywhere I go. But

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just like a gun crazy America. It's

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>just wild, it's crazy arbitrary.

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>A year and a half and then the Stockton Police

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>post this photo on their Facebook page and then it

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 2>goes wildly viral.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>This scene is so it's just like such a.

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Really Nancy Grace on Lifetime movie.

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>So he's in jail. I couldn't eat. I was broken.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't sleep that night. In the morning, they came

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>hammering my door. Channel twelve News wanted to interview me

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>door seven. I went expecting to see Channel twelve, but

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>one of my homies Ken was in there and he said.

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Bro, do you realize you just went viral?

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Every single news station across the world is talking about

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you right now in China, Puerto Rico, London.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And then it's like, you know, they would like be

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 2>flashing to like people like in Chinese like no, I know,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>prison Bay.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, prison Bay, and it's like the like count it's

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like going up. When I went back to myself, looked

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>up and every TV had a picture of me on

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it. It was the most humbly and scary, exciting, overwhelming experience

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>so then he gets famous and he's still in jail

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>for two more years. But the judge is nice, and

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>he says he has like the one black judge in

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole county. And it's like, okay, because I do

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>see that you're getting like a lot of modeling opportunities.

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.479
<v Speaker 1>I will will like bump your sentence down from three

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>years too, so you can like be viral and gigs mama,

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And this time he talks about a lot about you know,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>prison reform and how schwartzen Acre was you know.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Under pressure to like not like give clemency to that

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like gang leader Tuki.

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tuk, who's like gang leader of the crips, even

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>though he was like the poster child for like rehabilitation

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and like wrote so many children's books, right, but Schwartzenegger

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>is so like killed him.

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then the state did execute him. And then

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that day on the yard, a guard was so stupid

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and didn't realize that ten cents was so high because

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of this execution, and then like I did get like

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>shanked down boots and like stabs so many times, but inmates, yeah,

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>so nobody even noticed it. So it's a little bit

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like prison guards out there like read the news.

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Read the news, like go to Dailymail dot com dot

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>uk and just.

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Like take the temp of the yard before you go

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>wandering through.

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So when he gets out of prison, him and Melissa

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>writing these letters and oh that actually happened even before

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>he went to prison this time, right, we're already married. Yeah,

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 2>they were already married and kid, so oh they go

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>see like a fortune teller and this fortune teller is

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>like reading all these crazy charts and he says, your

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>fame is gonna get so big and Melissa, your wife

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>isn't gonna like how famous you're gonna get, and a

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 2>woman is going to come between you.

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's just like, uh yeah, that's more obvious thing

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>in the world. And he's like and then it actually

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>came true. And who's the woman you ask?

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:36.479
<v Speaker 2>Chloe? She's the hairess to top Shop seas and it's

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>so iconic. And he's at this like crazy party that

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>his agent takes him to and he's introducing him to.

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Like Ridia walking for Philip Plyne, who's just like the

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>most like cheesy designer.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And he's in the Extremity fashion show.

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It's being just like his whole like fashion guer is

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>so Zulander.

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Also, there's so many amazing photos, like let's get

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>into it of his like fashion work.

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>What's funny is there's two photo sections in this book.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>The first is like photos of his life and like

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>him with his kids and him like doing those mom

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>those prison photo shoots where they have the background.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a fun background so you can take photos

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>with the goods.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.239
<v Speaker 1>But then the second is just literally modeling photos that

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>seem like they were done just for this book or something.

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because like I was looking up his other modeling photos,

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like in Milan where he's wearing like so much. Kind

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>of like early two of him out the fencing photos

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>is okay, so he's like doing this sexy lie down

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>but like leaning on one elbow. He's holding a pillow

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>or is that the fencing block pad like a fencing sword,

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and then fencing boots.

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>What I will say, though, I do feel like I'm

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>not seeing a lot of range in his facial expressions.

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>He's got such a strong face, but I think he's

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>afraid to kind of like move it around a little bit.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So Okay, here he is smiling, doing one smile getting

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>out of a pool. It looks good to me.

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bit like, well, if you have this face,

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>like this is kind of the face.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>But here's a little so okay when he gets.

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Wet, somemoldering here this black and white photo.

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but again that's the same face.

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I think this face is different than this face, which is.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>That face, the water face that he's doing a little

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>bit more work. But it's like I'm not seen like surprise,

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not seeing Coquette. I'm not. I could see a

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit more.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Here, but yeah, the clothes that he's wearing all like

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>the people dress him in are these like slashed blue

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 2>and black leather jackets that say like fear no bitch

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 2>like on them.

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's like he's walking for Philip. I

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Remember he talked about Philip Plane a lot

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because that's who like brought him to a lot of events.

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>When he goes to Canon, eventually does meet Chloe Chloe

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and along with Gigi Hadid.

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Who was he describes as super laid back in chill.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Jim and I met a really cool woman there named

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Gigi Hadid. She was incredibly laid back. We talked with

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>her all evening. She told us that she had a

0:33:57.840 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>membership to the Monte Carlo Beach Club, and then we

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>were walking to join her the next day. It wasn't

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>just my first time at a beach club in Monte Carlo.

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>It was my first time going to a beach club period.

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>And so that's when he runs into this girl, Chloe,

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>who turns out to be the heiress to top Shop.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>When we first met, I had no idea who she was.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I didn't follow fashion industry, and I had no idea

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>that she was the daughter of billionaire Philip Green. His

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>nickname was the King of high Street. The business mogul

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>owned top Shop, Miss Selfridge and so many more, twenty

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 1>five hundred outlets across the UK. He even known Sears.

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>There were no top shops near San Quentin. That's the

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>prison in California. And we sure weren't watching reruns of

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Maid and Chelsea while I was locked of a person.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Is that like a cheesy British reality show? It must

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>be anyway as Essex, it's very up.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'm sure Chloe, like in a housewise way,

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 2>was on the show, and so he was so like, no,

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, like, I haven't been watching this show. He's like,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>of course not fully divorced from Melissa, who stood by him.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, yeah, you know, Melissa wasn't so

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>happy about me dating this like billionaire British girl with

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like so many homes in Monte Carlos.

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, so then this photo like did

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 2>come out that was like us on a yacht and

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>like off the coast of Turkey, and he's like, and

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I do wish I had formerly filed for divorce before

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the Turkish yacht photo came out, but like, unfortunately I didn't.

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does seem.

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 2>By the end of the book and like spoiler alert,

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 2>him and Chloe have now broken up, mostly because he

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 2>fell into depression and didn't want to live full time

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>in a Monaco.

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Same even though his son really enjoyed going to school

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>there and became really close with their driver, who then

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>died in a biking accident. This is it's so sad

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because the driver's motorcycle breaks and so then this is

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of the suing s Jeremy buys him a new

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>motorcycle because he's like so grateful for him, like being

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>such a good driver and like striking up such a

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>nice relationship with his son well, and he's also like

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>in a motorcycle accident like three weeks later and so

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>guilty of.

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Course, he sent you if I hadn't repaired his motorcycle, yeah,

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe he wouldn't have died, but motorcycles are very dangerous,

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>but maybe the guy wouldn't have had money dangerous repair

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>the motorcycle. So let's if he didn't repair the motorcycle,

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you can't blame yourself. And he saw on him he

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, I never had money to do things,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 2>and now I can give anyway. It sounds like his son,

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 2>though now still lives in Monaca with Chloe, because he's

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 2>just like.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know if Chloe's sort of in some ways

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>is the Leanna to his son. She's this mom who

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>stepped up and she's just being like.

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Thay, she just is the mom. He has a baby

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>with Chloe and a baby with Melissa.

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Is the Molissa kid not also going to school there?

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, the Molissic kid. I think it's like back

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>in the States because I saw him post being like

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 2>my son graduated from eighth grade and I'm so proud. Okay, yeah,

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>And it was definitely like and it wasn't Halie based.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like he wasn't graduate.

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>From And him talking about like Monico schools is so funny.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 2>He's being like he met all these people and they

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>spoke all these different languages and they could do so

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 2>much at this Monaco school.

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just basically been like every like white

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>liberal parent who's just like, I want my kid to

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>speak four languages and I'm enrolling them in Mandarin and

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:08.479
<v Speaker 1>ah seven.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But I have to give it to him because

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 2>his career really popped off and he came back from

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Monaco and he started working with vig Fox, which I

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>was so happy. He devotes a full chapter.

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Two yeah, and he says that she is the goat.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>And then he starts doing all these kind of like

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>B movies, these kind of like Greater Tyler Perry, Viviget Fox,

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>like BT plus, like Pluto TV like No.

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 2>And I was like streaming, and I was like, Okay,

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I do need to get a BET login that I've

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>been trying to get forever.

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I watched like ten minutes of this movie that he

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>was in and he was just like the thing I

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>sent you where he was where It's like he's like

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>on the phone holding a perfume body. He's like, yes,

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 1>we just received the samples of the new perfume. We'll

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>put together a marketing strategy asap. And then just like

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a hawk, girl comes in and he's just like, Wow,

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you're so beautiful. I bought you a locket and she's like,

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you're my client. I could never accept this locket.

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And that was interesting because I watched more of

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.240
<v Speaker 2>a thriller where he plays like an evil strip club owner.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so he's got range well, and.

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>In this book he talks about how he's on the

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>set of this movie and like, during like a break,

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 2>ving raims to him, is like you should do rom

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 2>coms and he's like what, No, Like not me, I

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>only do thrillers. And he's like, no, man, you should

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 2>really do it. And then he's like someone overheard our

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 2>conversation and said I could do a rom com. So

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>then that's probably what you watched. You watched his transition

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 2>to a rom com.

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell where the movie was one of those

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>movies where it's like, maybe it could end up as

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a thriller.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, Mine was verrely key was evil, but then he

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 2>also goes and does like a stage production of a

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>play called Her Lies His Secrets.

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the one in Indiana.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, and he's like stage performance is so amazing.

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 1>It's also very Smith Jared of him to be like,

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like a hot guy doing a play.

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then of course, like at the end of

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of this tale and he's like less celebrity in

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>this way because he is just prison Bay. He's a

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 2>little more kind of like laying out his goals in

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Your's Resolutions at the end of the book, yeah, being like, look,

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I actually really want to go to Brazil and like

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 2>my like Mama Donna who raised me but isn't my

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 2>mother is like half Japannee, and I would love to

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>visit Okannawa.

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>She's the funky mom in Medical Lake who is their

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 1>mom who was so like, if y'all want to do

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>weed and drink, that's okay, but I'd rather you do

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it at my house.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>He has sent to some charitable work that I just

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 2>want to read this passage. He's working with some kind

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of underprivileged children. It got me to thinking, I know

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. I know a lot of people

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>are really big brands who would love to get involved

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 2>to help those kids trapped in the system who didn't

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 2>have anyone giving them some clothes. A contacted my man

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Rich at Fashion Nova because I've been doing a lot

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 2>of work with him, and asked they be willing to

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>supply these kids with some clothes. He came back instantly

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and then he he gets all these kids some dope

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 2>clothes and Fashion Nova that's sick. And I was like, Okay,

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, people.

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Say a Fashion Nomah makes incredibly low quality garments, and

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I bought this really cheap pair of shorts like five

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>years ago, And are they like coming apart at the seams, Yes,

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>but like five years is not that bad for like

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a forty dollars pair of shorts.

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 2>That's actually insanely long time.

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say it's not entirely my fault

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're coming to part at the seams.

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're man spreading and like putting your little paws

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>down there doing some things in there.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think my body has been sort of

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>man's breading the inside the shorts over the past.

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I say, one of my favorite pair of casual shorts

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 2>is a pair of black Cargoes from Walmart in Wisconsin.

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I got them because I was going tubing praise the Walmart.

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, they look good. They were ten bucks.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 2>And I just think Rich at Fashion Nova is like

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 2>doing some amazing work. And I have to say, and

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 2>we'll review this, but I mean, honestly, I'm like so

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>proud of Jeremy Meeks and like he's kind of covered

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of topics in this book.

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, props to my man, because you know,

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I do think his story is well, it's extraordinary because

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of his bone structure. You know, he is able to

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>shed I pretty like non proselytizing light on our prison

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 1>system and how fucked up it is and.

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>How far to the prison system, how far to up

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 2>pharmaceutical industry is.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I also love that part because he's saying,

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like American doctors just pushed right out. I see on

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.240
<v Speaker 1>him over and over and over again for his backpan,

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, when I was in Europe, I saw

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that the way they dealt with this was much more

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>holistic approach. But America is just pills, pills, pills, And he's.

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, they didn't ask me if, like my family

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 2>had a history of addiction. First, I did. Yeah, I

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think Jeremy has also like done a

0:41:55.640 --> 0:42:01.319
<v Speaker 2>really good job like staying close to Melissa, his ex wife. Yeah,

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 2>and they actually went on a reality show to call

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 2>like After Happily ever af After Happily ever After, and

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.399
<v Speaker 2>he was like, I really didn't want to go on

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>it because I knew like the industry and they would

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 2>just like edit us to look bad. But she really

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go on it, and he was like, I'm

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>not going to deny her like piece of the pie

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 2>of fame. He's like, I got my fifteen minutes.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think that's actually very very chill of him.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, it's also his book, you know who.

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's not a perfect father.

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.720
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sure Melissa and Chloe, Yeah, have their started

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 2>the story.

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they on the side of the story and

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>they could say, you know, like you know when he

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>says like I was tempted by women, but like I

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.399
<v Speaker 1>always told my manager to like have them not come

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 1>over to me when I'm doing all these like paid

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>appearances at just like a whatever like Mountain Dew event,

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>like at some nightclub. I'm kind of like, I'm sure

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you were getting bezet with these cheeks.

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Here we go the Daily Mail, our favorite website. In

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 2>the amounter of months ago, the model was forced to

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.439
<v Speaker 2>deny they had split him in Chloe. That is after

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 2>he was photographed am and arm with Romanian born model

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Andrea Sassu at two events during the Corn Film Festival.

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so our boy was double dibbit.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think he's being very like I love

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>both the mothers of my children. I would never look

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>at another woman named Andrea Sassu. Yeah, so don't believe

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>men all the time. Yeah, but like also proud of.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>You, Jeremy.

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're a con please.

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you know what, Jeremy, I know, I came

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>into this book with like, you know, low expectations, just

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.240
<v Speaker 1>based on the kind of the margin, the margin.

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 2>And like the reason because at the beginning I was

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 2>definitely kind of like, Okay, I know who you are,

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>but also like why am I reading this?

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like ultimately, like do I think that like

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>his story is I mean, I'm impressed with what he's done.

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I like, I guess I'm out of everyone who gets

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this kind of fame. He's maintained in a slightly more

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting way, by doing these kind of like low grade,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 1>like these almost like kind of tear read level kind

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of films where.

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like kind of more gone into just like

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 2>a B level thriller that's like streaming, as we said, as.

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Opposed to continuing to doing like Dancing with the Stars forever.

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, I think that's kind of it's more admirable.

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 2>He's way more into like the subject matter too.

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I Also what I like about this book is, I

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>know we're getting into like reading it, but I'm like

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>because it's like so almost self published vibes, Like I

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's stuff that wouldn't usually be in like

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a bigger title where he's talking about the violence in prison,

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>like really intensely, And I think that's so important that

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>we talk about how actually violent it can be inside

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the prison system, because a lot of the time that

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of violence isn't discussed.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>No, and it's just more like, oh, you're violent, so

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>you should go to prison.

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>When it's like and he's just like, prison is full

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of people who actually want to kill you, and it's

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>all these rival gangs and like everyone's getting murdered. Like

0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole part about prison riots and how it's just

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like it's in deluge of death and blood and everyone's

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>getting stabbed left and right. Is so terrifying. And I

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like a HarperCollins would kind of like really tame

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 1>that section down, yeah.

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Because they would just be like, oh, wasn't it hard

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>for you there? Or maybe because they probably have so

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>many like Charles Manson books. I loved his little paragraph

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 2>bought Charles Manson. That was like we had one interaction

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 2>that was like horrible where basically like they were showering

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 2>and then like Charles Manson like screamed racial epithets about

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 2>him and he was like and then he just was

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 2>pacing on, mumbling, and he was like, okay, Grandpa, get

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>yourself to bed. I'm gonna go open all my fan mail, okay,

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 2>And he was like Charles Manson would get Duffels also

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 2>sent to him every single day.

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 1>That's fame for you. Yeah.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of the substance a little bit like

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>like rival like hotties yea, and like Charles Manson is like,

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the racist called serial killer of the past

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the past, and then here's like hot poison Bay. It

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 2>was much more just like victim of like fucked up

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 2>police system, right, He's like, I actually didn't have to

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 2>like run a colt and kill all of them. I'm

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 2>just hot and I went to a bowling alley. Sorry,

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm hot, and.

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I peeked during the height of mom Facebook in twenty

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:26.919
<v Speaker 1>sixteen hot segment What does she wear?

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 2>What does she eat? How does she live?

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>What does she wear? Fashion Nova?

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Fashion Nova? Like, I think he has also like really

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 2>badass leather pieces. But I think it's also like maybe

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of like a baggy dickies and like

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like a beautiful linen shirt buttoned down, or it's

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:51.720
<v Speaker 2>like crazy skinny jeans and a Moto leather jacket.

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think it's crazy skinny jeans but slashes. I

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely think it's like.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 2>White linen suit from Fashion Nova.

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Turtleneck, sexy turtleneck, sexy turtleneck, anyone leather jacket over sexy.

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Turtle dock sandals.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But I also feel like he is still having a

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a gang bang or vibe and doing

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>like big clean white T shirt or is he not

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 1>because he's so I left that life behind.

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's left that life behind. I think

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 2>it's a little more like and everything's more hitted now

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:19.320
<v Speaker 2>tight shirt, right.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I want to go to Brazil and

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a tight shirt and that's my goal for twenty.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Twenty with like kind of like this like white zipper

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Pleathan jacket.

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 1>The movie I watched the sidebar, but the Love Interest, Yeah,

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>it starts out she's trying to get pegnant and she's

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>on the toilet like taking a pegrancy test, and she

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 1>has an anklet on both ankles. So I wonder if, like,

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.760
<v Speaker 1>do you think he ever got Chloe like an anklet

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>as a gift, like with her credit card?

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she's like, here's your visa books. Yeah, and

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 2>he's like, no, I'm gonna pay with this with my

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 2>like and trauma de fashion show money.

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay. How does he live?

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I think he?

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he lives like in a two bedroom

0:47:57.960 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>condo in La.

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Es two bedroom calibasas for me, because he thinks Colabossos

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 2>is beautiful.

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's living in such a family place.

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>No, now that he's like single, I feel like he

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>has a bachelor pad.

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 2>In lowerl Canyon.

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. No, I think it's like a little bit

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>more just like Valley. No, like Korea Town.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he lives in Korea. Cinta Monica, more

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Santa Monica, like he sees more or even Venice Beach,

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Like he's more beach to me, he's so Venice, right,

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>And he's like on a longboard and he's taking his

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>son's longboarding.

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so cute. It's so cute dream Okay. And

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's somewhat underdecorated.

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a dad in this way. But

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like frame posters of like the Dutch

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Three that's one of the movie season right, self published author.

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when I was looking at the movies,

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>they were all like already sequels.

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.240
<v Speaker 2>It's everything. It's like a sequel of a sequel.

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's got the Dutch three framed, and maybe like

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely like a lot of like families where the

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:04.240
<v Speaker 1>home is like silver frames.

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and like frame photos of like all of his wives.

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like him and Melissa are getting each other's

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>shotter flies for Christmas like constantly.

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 2>But like he also like has been to like beautiful

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 2>European churches, and I feel like has gotten some like

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 2>weird gifts for himself.

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>You think he's buying some like beautiful cross. Yeah, potchki cross.

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Helpsed like Pastor Davis. He is very new church.

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's not buying like a beautiful like medieval like

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>fake cross.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but he takes that author to like a church

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, here we are two former gang members.

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I think there's maybe a cross or two in the house.

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:45.280
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's.

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just travel cross. I was not trying really

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 2>about a travel concept, like a framed European photo from

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 2>a kiosk in a tourist area.

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Well. Agree you think he got

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like a cool postcard of just like Courchevelle and he's

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 1>just like and he's like, he took it to his framers.

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>What is he me?

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 2>He could be very Framebridge and he's like, hey, is

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 2>anything you want to frame?

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:17.879
<v Speaker 1>No, I think Melissa is Framebridge, Framebridge, Massachusetts over here.

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, he's kind of like part Rhode Island Indian as.

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I says Warwick. Yeah so, and he did not have

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a great time in Rhode Island.

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>No, he left pretty soon.

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Many don't. Yeah, what does he eat?

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he is like protein protein protein.

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's missed Jim. Yeah.

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 2>It literally is just like grilled chicken.

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I want to say he goes

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to a gym that's like it's not like such a

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>crunch like.

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Or P thirty five or whatever that program is.

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It's some kind of like new male kind of local

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 1>chain where there's like seven locations in Los Angeles and

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it's called Evolve.

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Or like, yeah, it's evolved Jim.

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.880
<v Speaker 1>He has a train or like the build or something,

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's like one hundred dollars a month, like it's

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>not EQUINAX prices, but it's not blank.

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 2>No, And I think it's small. But he works out

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and I think it's like what he's eating.

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like tons of protein powders, and I think it's.

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Just like, yeah, oh, the kitchen is like creating.

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Up the who Yeah, And then he's doing a nonstick

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 2>pan grilled chicken, which is and just kind of throwing

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of.

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Powders and all that weird like plastic coating is getting

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>all over the food. And honestly, frankly he's the air fier.

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes for the kids, Yeah, they love it and always

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>putting like salmon bites in or whatever.

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 2>It's just like broccoli maybe like rice pouches. Yeah, he's

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 2>like Melissa is a better cook.

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she's also airfier. But she's saying that she's

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like better at using the air fire.

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Does he missed the food and want to cove?

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I bet he do.

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.280
<v Speaker 2>And then I think like he cheats on his diet

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 2>when he travels. He's having like one pre here.

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think actually he's not, because he's so disciplined in

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>like learning his lines for a play. I kind of

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>think that he's like actually not cheating on the diet.

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I think though he will and he's culture Yeah, he's

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 1>tasting the cultures too, but I'm saying he's not being

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 1>so James Candelpini and loading up on like six orders

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>of trimpet four.

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I have half of the schnitzel.

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he'll have a few bites with Rachel style.

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh. And I kind of like, I'm like, is he

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 2>sober now? Because he was like I smokedweed all. Oh no,

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Now he's into mushrooms.

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.320
<v Speaker 1>He's solos, yeah, because he said mushrooms are about wellness.

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 2>And his like healing journey.

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he's actually always like being more ayahuasca now right,

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think your depression. I couldn't tell if that

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>friend Ugo at the end was a gay designer, that

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he was. This fashion designer was really important. He was

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a stylist.

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the book, it gets a little

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:43.720
<v Speaker 2>more male friendship in this way that is a little

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:47.839
<v Speaker 2>more like, Hm, I think I'm g Shedeed and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're super lated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so laid back, and I'm like introducing him to

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<v Speaker 2>my like Era's friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously I'm Germany meet because I've been to

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<v Speaker 1>jail many times. And also hello. When he gets deported

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<v Speaker 1>from the UK, that was that literally it really happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And when he said they sent him back

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<v Speaker 1>to New York instead of la where he'd come from.

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<v Speaker 1>You and they sent me to Washington, d C. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of New York where I came from and you never

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<v Speaker 1>bolt and they marched me through heathrow and handcuffs just

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<v Speaker 1>like they did with him. I was like, wait and

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<v Speaker 1>they were waiting for you all yeah, and they got

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<v Speaker 1>like interrogated in the same cell I was probably out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, girl, same fucking vibes. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>been detained a Heathrow and deported back to America to

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<v Speaker 1>a city you haven't that you didn't fly from.

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<v Speaker 2>Girls also very like both of you guys were. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like his parole officer could have maybe told him that

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to be deporter from Heathrow and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh girl, I'm going to London.

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<v Speaker 1>No I know. And it was like literally like I

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<v Speaker 1>could have done one ounce of research to like know

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<v Speaker 1>that I shouldn't have showed up without a return to

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<v Speaker 1>get in like a huge bag saying I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do and.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you want to be a piano teacher and a journalist, dumbass.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still do and that's my goal for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>To Jeremy like literally, dope job. I give this book

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<v Speaker 2>a three point seven nonstick pans out of pans. I think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for what is supposed to be some dumb book about

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<v Speaker 2>an influencer, I think he's shone a light. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more going on our country than some of these

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<v Speaker 2>celebrities do with the end of their book about their

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<v Speaker 2>little foundations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I appreciate the light being shown. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>is it a work of great literature? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he repeat himself all the time, absolutely, like he'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a page will be like I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>Medical Lake, and then the next page will be like

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, someone who grew.

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<v Speaker 1>Up in medical up in medical Lake, Like no, we

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<v Speaker 1>got it, No, we got it. Sure, yeah No. I

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<v Speaker 1>give this three out of five. What's it called bad decisions?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the drink?

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<v Speaker 2>Audio? Smotherfuck audios, motherfuckers? And I think it like gave

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<v Speaker 2>a light to a lot of kind of like be

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<v Speaker 2>my thrillers that like I think I am such a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Of yea And definitely log into your t Plus account

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you weren't playing and.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode was produced edited by Darby Masters. I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to thank our supervising producer of Uzafar. I would

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<v Speaker 2>also like to thank in this episode our executive producer

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<v Speaker 2>Christina Everett.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to thank our engineer by Heat Frasers,

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<v Speaker 1>all the beheats through whom I've experienced deep discovery, strength, weakness, failure, love, brokenness, virality, growth, humility,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still have found my way to the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast industry, so I thank him for his efforts.

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<v Speaker 2>An inspiring force for me and my journey has been

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<v Speaker 2>the music of Stephen Philips Forts, who has done the

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<v Speaker 2>music as well as the artwork of Teddy Blanks, which

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<v Speaker 2>I have duplicates. I can't afford the real ones, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have kind of imitations of his work in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>I carry with me in every room and space to

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<v Speaker 1>enter of fullness that comes from many places, including our

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<v Speaker 1>previous production company, Prologue Projects, and the work that we

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<v Speaker 1>did to create the experiences and emotions that I continue

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<v Speaker 1>to feel today on this show, and I thank them

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<v Speaker 1>much for their service, and I have profound respect for

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<v Speaker 1>my village.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm eternally thankful for you club kids, for your love

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