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Speaker 1: Celebrity book club. Okay, okay, Lazyes is.

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Speaker 2: Your host Stuffy of Sacramento Premiere Dan Dating Nights for

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Speaker 2: the Seed.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We are starting in five four three two one.

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Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Kendra. I'm a nurse practitioner. I'm twenty four

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Speaker 1: and I live in Davis.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kendra, I'm Leanne. I'm a naval officer. I live

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Speaker 2: in the heart of Sacramento. I love dogs and I

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Speaker 2: love outdoor activities.

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Speaker 1: Leanne, you look so familiar to me. Huh, you were

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Speaker 1: not a reality or anything. Were you. Were you in

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Speaker 1: that baking show Northern California?

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Speaker 2: It's baked? No, I know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I saw you on the Dailymail dot Com. Oh you

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Speaker 1: know that Felon guy, the hot guy.

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Speaker 2: His name is Jeremy and he's actually my brother. Oh

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Speaker 2: My cross has been crazy and they've really invaded our

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Speaker 2: privacy because I'm a pretty private person. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 2: so proud of him, as he is a very attractive

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Speaker 2: man and he's grown so much since prison.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's so cool. I'm a little scared, but a

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Speaker 1: little turned on too.

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Speaker 2: Are you bisexual? Oh? Hi, I'm le Anne. I'm a

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Speaker 2: naval officer. I have two dogs. I live in downtown Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: I love kids, don't have any, and I love playing dodgeball.

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Speaker 2: What about you?

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine, I'm a nurse practitioner.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a beautiful voice?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Thanks? Can I just say something? You look like

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Speaker 1: I fucking know you from somewhere man.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever played dodgeball?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It used to be chairwoman of the league in Oakland.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's that man. I think I

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Speaker 1: know you from somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Thursday's Trivia at Santa Fe Fusion Cosamigo's Kitchen and Craft Bar.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sober. I thought I know you from the

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Speaker 1: news man. Do you have like a hot brother or something?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That fellon guy, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Jeremy is my brother and I'm really proud of him. Fine,

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Speaker 2: the media is so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I promised myself I would never date another

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Speaker 1: sibling of a criminal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, I'm Leanne. I'm a naval officer. I have

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Speaker 2: two dogs. I live in downtown Sacramento. I played dodgeball

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Speaker 2: and oh no, I'm FOMCA.

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Speaker 1: I'm a nurse practitioner. You remind me of a foto

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Speaker 1: I have seen on Oh God, I speakl dot net

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Speaker 1: about to an American criminal and his interesting family.

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Speaker 2: God, what the heck can a lesbian, knifferent officer get

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Speaker 2: a little privacy? I didn't want to come out of

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Speaker 2: the army, Okay, I liked donas, don't tell and don't

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Speaker 2: get me wrong. Sorry, I'm really proud of my brother,

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Meeks. We grew up really hard, and for someone

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Speaker 2: like you, a beautiful nurse practitioner, to read about it

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Speaker 2: on Jershkinskyle dot net dot d a.

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Speaker 1: So German media is famously invasive. We can both agree

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Speaker 1: on that topic. Perhaps it is the one thing that

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Speaker 1: will bring us closer together. Here's my phone number plus

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Speaker 1: three seven all five.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, plus five plus three three.

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Speaker 1: Plus three seven, spy. That's actually.

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Speaker 2: Right off, lay crazy.

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Speaker 1: Looks like we have brought the foul of the law.

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Speaker 2: It looks like my brother, I guess. I rarely make

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Speaker 2: jokes like that about him. I'm very proud of him.

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Speaker 1: I'm wet.

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Speaker 2: Who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 1: It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone

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Speaker 1: and we've got book a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 2: It's Hollywood, it's books.

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Speaker 1: It's gossip.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's memoirs, martinis.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity poof Club to read it while it's hot, Celebrity

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Speaker 1: poof Club, tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 2: No boys are loud. Celebtoo, say it loud and pound

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Speaker 2: Celebrity book Club. Buzz me in. I brought the queer vow. Hey,

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Speaker 2: best friend, how the hell are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm so good As we slide into twenty twenty five, a.

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Speaker 2: New year, a new me, Stephen, Do you have any

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Speaker 2: new ideas I was wondering for this year?

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Speaker 1: Any new ideas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that you want to get going? Oh, the business ideas.

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Speaker 1: I have tons of business opportunities and brand extensions that

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Speaker 1: I'm working on. We're actually doing a diffusion line of

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Speaker 2: They're being sold on to MoU.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I like went on to move for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Ever because you were like, fuck Amazon, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: I was looking for kind of a gag gift and

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Speaker 2: it led me to to MoU and things got so crazy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I was in Vegas, like everything was spinning.

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Speaker 2: It was just like it wouldn't even let me buy

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Speaker 2: Being like, you get another free gift, you get another

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Speaker 2: free pick more gifts, and then I was being so

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Speaker 2: stought machine and I was like, I picked I wou

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Speaker 2: actually like socks for you, but then it got like

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Speaker 2: too complicated that were just like, shut up, I'm gaming,

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Speaker 2: do not disturb, and then it was like you have

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Speaker 2: then I couldn't actually even purchase the original thing I

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Speaker 2: deleting the app. But that was fun for two minutes.

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Speaker 1: I think it's good that there is like this weird

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Speaker 1: it's just like, actually, we don't need to be purchasing this,

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Speaker 1: and like the fact that we don't have the whatever

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Speaker 1: like gen alpha literacy to navigate this minefield of like

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Speaker 2: Good forever and then it makes us click out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I could just say This isn't for me,

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Speaker 1: and I don't need these socks that much. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure if you really wanted to buy shut up I'm

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Speaker 1: gaming socks, you could find them on Yeah, I'm sure if.

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Speaker 2: I could really wanted those for you, I could.

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Speaker 1: Get them any We're all are surprised that they do

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Speaker 1: end up advice in my January stocking, which is another

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Speaker 1: thing we're doing this year.

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Speaker 2: Be the Winter Blues. We're doing January stock cakes. That's

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Speaker 1: Anyway, as we sort of slide out of Mlkday into inauguration,

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Speaker 1: Meek just I thought it would be good to turn

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Speaker 1: our attention to someone who hasn't been in the news

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Speaker 1: lely and yet is very relevant to so much of

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Speaker 1: what we're experiencing right now, Seriously, police brutality, modeling Monaco,

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Speaker 1: and people becoming famous for their criminal activity while also

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Speaker 1: being attractive and becoming.

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Speaker 2: Folk heroes for being hot.

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Speaker 1: And on the wrong side of the.

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Speaker 2: Lawrem famous for being attractive and being naughty.

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Speaker 1: In addition to Luigi Mangioni, it's like Lugi already feels

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Speaker 1: so last week, and I'm sure by the time you

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Speaker 2: Know who he is or like he'll be president. Hello.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have Luigi Mangioni becoming Secretary of Defense on

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Speaker 1: He was before Luigi went viral. He was hot for

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Speaker 1: kind of being the first, Like I mean, he's not

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Speaker 2: He's not the hot Felon.

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Speaker 1: No, There's been many hot felons, but he came to

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Speaker 1: prominence at a time in like midway through like the

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Speaker 1: second era of virality. Yes, Facebook, Facebook hot, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: it actually happened via Facebook.

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Speaker 2: So what happened was you guys will know him as hashtag.

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Speaker 2: I think it's Prison Bay shot guy, and then some

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Speaker 2: people call it him hot Felon. Of course, we were

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Speaker 1: And his book Model Citizen of Jeremy Meeks, And if

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Speaker 1: you don't know, he's extremely symmetrical.

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Speaker 2: He's like crazy sexy.

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Speaker 1: He's half black, is what I'm gathering from the book. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the mom is white, yes, from the photos, and he

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Speaker 1: He has a high fashion look, strong, cheap bones.

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Speaker 2: Philips also like he already naturally, I feel like he

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Speaker 2: And then he's like, you know, he's giving this really

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Speaker 1: He also like has a lot of tattoos because he's

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Speaker 1: He's not heroin cheek. No mama's looking healthy, bent to

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Speaker 2: It's right where it's like Facebook now, like no one's

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Speaker 2: was less like weight this serial killer is yeah, yes.

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Speaker 1: Exactly well, And I think what's interesting reading this book

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Speaker 2: the crime? And actually that's what this book is kind

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Speaker 2: of about, is how it's sucked.

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Speaker 1: Up the system is it's very it's very prison informed

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Speaker 1: that is really designed for him to lose, to loose.

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Speaker 1: So his mom was an addict. His dad was an

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Speaker 2: So his dad I really guess at this part. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: his father did go ahead and murder his mom's best.

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Speaker 1: He tortured her for hours and then murdered her.

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Speaker 2: If my girlfriend murdered you because you wouldn't tell her

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Speaker 2: Don't know if him becoming a gang member is because

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Speaker 2: a Long Island iced tea.

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00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds like it. Wait, let's go to that day now.

442
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: So he starts sitting in this pog named Melissa.

443
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 2: Melissa, and so she's like a nurse at his jail,

444
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 2: and you know, she's like doing examinations, I guess. And

445
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: then he gets transferred to the state prison, but she

446
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: starts writing him letters so romantic after that, being like,

447
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: I don't know where this is going, but like they

448
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 2: just have this connection. This is also after he to

449
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: talk about like even though he's so like anti prison,

450
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: he is just like jails, though, are so horrible, and like,

451
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: at least like private prisons you can email and they've

452
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 2: been in Jerry's so he was being a little pro

453
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 2: private prison.

454
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: He was just saying, like there's more amenities, amenities.

455
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: Okay, he goes.

456
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: I will never forget one of her first date nights.

457
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: So now he's married to Melissa.

458
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: Because letters work, So y'all maybe pen palet up okay?

459
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: For single?

460
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: Well what's funny is okay? But and then I do

461
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: feel like now like like I follow this Instagram that's

462
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: like hawkeys in Idaho State Prison. And it's always just

463
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: like these guys on like j Poll and like they

464
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: make these little videos on their phone and like there's

465
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: always like hundreds of thirsteen comments just being like damn daddy,

466
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: like pound me down, like yes, just like assault down boots,

467
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: and like they're always like say what their crime is,

468
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: and like a lot of the time it is they

469
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: are there for like violent assault, and people are still

470
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: just being like yes, like take me to church, like

471
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm sused, yeah, and like all these gay guys are

472
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: just being like uh girl, yeah, like what do you

473
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: speak for it? But I do feel like he kind

474
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: of started the modern era of being like we are

475
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: fetishizing like hot criminals, criminals like which is extend.

476
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: Eighties said early nineties was very national in choir. Penn

477
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: Pal to prison.

478
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: Yes, but the only way you could do it was

479
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: if you were that famous that you were in the

480
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: national in choir.

481
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: Like no they had ads, Oh they did, Yes. I

482
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: used to read it my grandmother Like Okay, you could

483
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: be like Charles Manson, who by the way, was literally

484
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: lived in the cell next to him, So it's like

485
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: you could be a celebrity in prison, like the Charles

486
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: Manson and get letters. But in the National Choir. I

487
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: remember like in the nineties it would be like right

488
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: to a prisoner, and like it would be like you know,

489
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: silver Fox, Daddy blah blah blah, P seven three right,

490
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: and then it was so many people in Jerry's Springer

491
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: always like being like I wrote to this guy in

492
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: prison and then like we got married and then he

493
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: cheated on me and my sister.

494
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet he did.

495
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: So that was kind of the nineties, and then I

496
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: think the seventies era is like, you know, more than

497
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 2: Ted Bundye Charles Manson more being like I'm your worshiper,

498
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm like a crazy hippy girl and.

499
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: That kind of like it's just hinge. It's like you

500
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: can date someone in prison as easily as you would

501
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: date anybody else. It's like all happen on your phone,

502
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: and like through the magic of private prisons, like they

503
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: can go they can go pay to just like read

504
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: there in box.

505
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 2: But they never sween him and Melissa is that they met.

506
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: They met, they met irl, which is like they had

507
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: to meet cute, and then she wrote him like such

508
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: a scented letter.

509
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: That was so like Britney spears fantasy.

510
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: So then they get married, he's out of jail. Blah

511
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'll never forget one of first date and

512
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: it's the marry couple, the local bullying all. They had

513
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: a drink called Audios motherfuckers. I don't know what it

514
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: is about that drink, but every time I have one,

515
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: I end up in jail. Melissa doesn't drink often, so

516
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: when she does, it hits her pretty hard. We were

517
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: on our way home and in her hyperactive, drunken state

518
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: of mind, she popped me on the side of the cheek.

519
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: I had a cigarette between my lips and it fell

520
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: right out of my mouth, so I stopped in the

521
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: middle of the road to grab it and a cop

522
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: happened see me. I got pulled over and the officer

523
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: approach the vehicle. Explained that I was trying to get

524
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: my wife home and that yes, I've been drinking. If

525
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: you get arrested while you're on parole, your parole officer

526
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: as assigned documents. Blah blah blah. The cop with me

527
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: in the squad car and we talked all the way

528
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: to jail. When he said it'd be out the night,

529
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: I laughed. I said, there's no way I'm going to

530
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: be a go out out until my PO came in.

531
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: After I was processed. I was shocked when I heard

532
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: them call my name to be released. As I walked

533
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: out to the dark parking lot, I saw the cop

534
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: sitting in the patrol car and then I heard told

535
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: you be out tonight. That was the nicest any cop

536
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: had ever been to me. If they all had kindness

537
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: and decency like that officer, there would be a lot

538
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: less death on the streets. Unfortunately, even the good ones

539
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: turn a blind eye and keep silent when they see

540
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: their fellow officers using an excessive force. You always see

541
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: that one standing off to the side with this look

542
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: on their face. They know what's happening is wrong, but

543
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: fear of going against police code stops them from standing

544
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: up for what's right, you know.

545
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: And I think that's very true. It's like there's so

546
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: many people probably out there that are like, oh, well,

547
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: I become a cop to be like the good one

548
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: on the force. But it's like they have such a

549
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: cop code.

550
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a cop it's a fraternity and they're there

551
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: to protect each other more than anything else, and so

552
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if there's that quote good cop, and

553
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's nice for him to have that one experience.

554
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're like nice cop. But it's like

555
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: then if he sees someone getting beaten, it's not like

556
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: this good.

557
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: And is literally the next time he has an audios motherfucker,

558
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: he gets brutally assaulted by the police and they beat

559
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: him to the Indian insta of his life and beating

560
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: his girlfriend.

561
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: And the wife too.

562
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, later and like for literally nothing, and it's so

563
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: it's like there's nothing you can do about and.

564
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: They were waiting for him too. Yeah. He also says

565
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: the thing which is also very true, where he's like

566
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: time about the corrections officers where he was like they

567
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: would be so like jovial with us, but then like

568
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: churn on us like in a second, yeah, which is

569
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: so like the one time when I did good to rikers.

570
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: I feel like I saw that when I was like

571
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: teaching acting to like trans prisoners, and it was like

572
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: so many corrections officers like joking so much with prisoners,

573
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: and then it's just like they flipped the switch pretty fast.

574
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: I remember one of the many times I was arrested

575
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: and you thought I wouldn't bring that up this episode,

576
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: but I would is that I remember one time in

577
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: the squad car.

578
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: If you went bowling more, you wouldn't be arrested.

579
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And I literally, you know, I'm bad

580
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: at bowling, no, I know.

581
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: And like when we went bowling last year, you got

582
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: so upset.

583
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got like frustrated because I'm like, why is

584
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: the ball so heavy? Doesn't make needy sense because also

585
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: my fingers are mad for piano and not for bowling balls.

586
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: So I'm in the squad car and the cops were

587
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: like making all these really homophobic comments to one of

588
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: my fellow prisoners, and he was in there and they

589
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: kept making all this stuff about you know, classic like

590
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: jokes about dropping the soap and how he was gonna

591
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: get fucked in prison and all this stuff. And I

592
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: was being like, it's almost like they're doing tubs of

593
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: un stone because they're trying to like make me feel

594
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: uncomfortable too, definitely, And then like I feel like my

595
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: fellow prisoner then was like also kind of making jokes

596
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: to me about me, like getting fucked in prison when

597
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: we were in separate cells, like and some point in

598
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: the jail when there was no email.

599
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: Or benefit, there was no receives, no Ben.

600
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: And Jerry's anyway, it's true where it's like you'd ever know.

601
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: It's like they're nice to you one second, but ultimately

602
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: like they are absolutely delighting and their dehumanization of well

603
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: and just like.

604
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: You can even show even more power instead of if

605
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: you're just mean and like beating someone all the time,

606
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: but if you get to be like, hey, I'm your

607
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: best friend. Oh now, actually watch me take that away

608
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: in two seconds.

609
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

610
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: So what's also crazy is the reason why he literally

611
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: does go to jail for what happens when he does

612
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: get the ultimate the mugshot prison Bay Pick is because

613
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: he's driving his son or nephew and he has a

614
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: gun in the trunk.

615
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he gets pulled over a routine traffic step

616
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: and they find a gun and then he reveals that

617
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: he had the gun for protection, just being so street life,

618
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: like I don't know if like the bloods are going

619
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: to pull up on me and I need to like

620
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: protect myself.

621
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: It's just crazy because it's just like, which is why

622
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: you went to jail.

623
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, possession, Yeah, possession of a firearm, just like Kamala

624
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: I carry my glocula with me everywhere I go. But

625
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like a gun crazy America. It's

626
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: just wild, it's crazy arbitrary.

627
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: A year and a half and then the Stockton Police

628
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: post this photo on their Facebook page and then it

629
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: goes wildly viral.

630
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: This scene is so it's just like such a.

631
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: Really Nancy Grace on Lifetime movie.

632
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: So he's in jail. I couldn't eat. I was broken.

633
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep that night. In the morning, they came

634
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: hammering my door. Channel twelve News wanted to interview me

635
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: door seven. I went expecting to see Channel twelve, but

636
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: one of my homies Ken was in there and he said.

637
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: Bro, do you realize you just went viral?

638
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Every single news station across the world is talking about

639
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: you right now in China, Puerto Rico, London.

640
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: And then it's like, you know, they would like be

641
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: flashing to like people like in Chinese like no, I know,

642
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: prison Bay.

643
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, prison Bay, and it's like the like count it's

644
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: like going up. When I went back to myself, looked

645
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: up and every TV had a picture of me on

646
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: it. It was the most humbly and scary, exciting, overwhelming experience

647
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: so then he gets famous and he's still in jail

648
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: for two more years. But the judge is nice, and

649
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: he says he has like the one black judge in

650
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: the whole county. And it's like, okay, because I do

651
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: see that you're getting like a lot of modeling opportunities.

652
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: I will will like bump your sentence down from three

653
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: years too, so you can like be viral and gigs mama,

654
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: you know.

655
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: And this time he talks about a lot about you know,

656
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: prison reform and how schwartzen Acre was you know.

657
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: Under pressure to like not like give clemency to that

658
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: like gang leader Tuki.

659
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tuk, who's like gang leader of the crips, even

660
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: though he was like the poster child for like rehabilitation

661
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: and like wrote so many children's books, right, but Schwartzenegger

662
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: is so like killed him.

663
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Yes, And then the state did execute him. And then

664
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: that day on the yard, a guard was so stupid

665
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: and didn't realize that ten cents was so high because

666
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: of this execution, and then like I did get like

667
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: shanked down boots and like stabs so many times, but inmates, yeah,

668
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: so nobody even noticed it. So it's a little bit

669
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: like prison guards out there like read the news.

670
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Read the news, like go to Dailymail dot com dot

671
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: uk and just.

672
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: Like take the temp of the yard before you go

673
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: wandering through.

674
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: So when he gets out of prison, him and Melissa

675
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: writing these letters and oh that actually happened even before

676
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: he went to prison this time, right, we're already married. Yeah,

677
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: they were already married and kid, so oh they go

678
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: see like a fortune teller and this fortune teller is

679
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: like reading all these crazy charts and he says, your

680
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: fame is gonna get so big and Melissa, your wife

681
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: isn't gonna like how famous you're gonna get, and a

682
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: woman is going to come between you.

683
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: And it's just like, uh yeah, that's more obvious thing

684
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: in the world. And he's like and then it actually

685
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: came true. And who's the woman you ask?

686
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: Chloe? She's the hairess to top Shop seas and it's

687
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: so iconic. And he's at this like crazy party that

688
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: his agent takes him to and he's introducing him to.

689
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Like Ridia walking for Philip Plyne, who's just like the

690
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: most like cheesy designer.

691
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: And he's in the Extremity fashion show.

692
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: It's being just like his whole like fashion guer is

693
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: so Zulander.

694
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: Okay. Also, there's so many amazing photos, like let's get

695
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: into it of his like fashion work.

696
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: What's funny is there's two photo sections in this book.

697
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: The first is like photos of his life and like

698
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: him with his kids and him like doing those mom

699
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: those prison photo shoots where they have the background.

700
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a fun background so you can take photos

701
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: with the goods.

702
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: But then the second is just literally modeling photos that

703
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: seem like they were done just for this book or something.

704
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I was looking up his other modeling photos,

705
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: like in Milan where he's wearing like so much. Kind

706
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: of like early two of him out the fencing photos

707
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: is okay, so he's like doing this sexy lie down

708
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: but like leaning on one elbow. He's holding a pillow

709
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: or is that the fencing block pad like a fencing sword,

710
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: and then fencing boots.

711
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: What I will say, though, I do feel like I'm

712
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: not seeing a lot of range in his facial expressions.

713
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: He's got such a strong face, but I think he's

714
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: afraid to kind of like move it around a little bit.

715
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: So Okay, here he is smiling, doing one smile getting

716
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: out of a pool. It looks good to me.

717
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit like, well, if you have this face,

718
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: like this is kind of the face.

719
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: But here's a little so okay when he gets.

720
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: Wet, somemoldering here this black and white photo.

721
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again that's the same face.

722
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: I think this face is different than this face, which is.

723
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: That face, the water face that he's doing a little

724
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: bit more work. But it's like I'm not seen like surprise,

725
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing Coquette. I'm not. I could see a

726
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: little bit more.

727
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Here, but yeah, the clothes that he's wearing all like

728
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: the people dress him in are these like slashed blue

729
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: and black leather jackets that say like fear no bitch

730
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: like on them.

731
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like he's walking for Philip. I

732
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Remember he talked about Philip Plane a lot

733
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: because that's who like brought him to a lot of events.

734
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: When he goes to Canon, eventually does meet Chloe Chloe

735
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: and along with Gigi Hadid.

736
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: Who was he describes as super laid back in chill.

737
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: Jim and I met a really cool woman there named

738
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: Gigi Hadid. She was incredibly laid back. We talked with

739
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: her all evening. She told us that she had a

740
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: membership to the Monte Carlo Beach Club, and then we

741
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: were walking to join her the next day. It wasn't

742
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: just my first time at a beach club in Monte Carlo.

743
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: It was my first time going to a beach club period.

744
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: And so that's when he runs into this girl, Chloe,

745
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: who turns out to be the heiress to top Shop.

746
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: When we first met, I had no idea who she was.

747
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: I didn't follow fashion industry, and I had no idea

748
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: that she was the daughter of billionaire Philip Green. His

749
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: nickname was the King of high Street. The business mogul

750
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: owned top Shop, Miss Selfridge and so many more, twenty

751
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: five hundred outlets across the UK. He even known Sears.

752
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: There were no top shops near San Quentin. That's the

753
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: prison in California. And we sure weren't watching reruns of

754
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Maid and Chelsea while I was locked of a person.

755
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: Is that like a cheesy British reality show? It must

756
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: be anyway as Essex, it's very up.

757
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm sure Chloe, like in a housewise way,

758
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: was on the show, and so he was so like, no,

759
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm not, like, I haven't been watching this show. He's like,

760
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: of course not fully divorced from Melissa, who stood by him.

761
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, you know, Melissa wasn't so

762
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: happy about me dating this like billionaire British girl with

763
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: like so many homes in Monte Carlos.

764
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, so then this photo like did

765
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: come out that was like us on a yacht and

766
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: like off the coast of Turkey, and he's like, and

767
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: I do wish I had formerly filed for divorce before

768
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: the Turkish yacht photo came out, but like, unfortunately I didn't.

769
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does seem.

770
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: By the end of the book and like spoiler alert,

771
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: him and Chloe have now broken up, mostly because he

772
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: fell into depression and didn't want to live full time

773
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: in a Monaco.

774
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Same even though his son really enjoyed going to school

775
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: there and became really close with their driver, who then

776
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: died in a biking accident. This is it's so sad

777
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: because the driver's motorcycle breaks and so then this is

778
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of the suing s Jeremy buys him a new

779
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: motorcycle because he's like so grateful for him, like being

780
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: such a good driver and like striking up such a

781
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: nice relationship with his son well, and he's also like

782
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: in a motorcycle accident like three weeks later and so

783
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: guilty of.

784
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Course, he sent you if I hadn't repaired his motorcycle, yeah,

785
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: maybe he wouldn't have died, but motorcycles are very dangerous,

786
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: but maybe the guy wouldn't have had money dangerous repair

787
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: the motorcycle. So let's if he didn't repair the motorcycle,

788
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: you can't blame yourself. And he saw on him he

789
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I never had money to do things,

790
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: and now I can give anyway. It sounds like his son,

791
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: though now still lives in Monaca with Chloe, because he's

792
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: just like.

793
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: And you know if Chloe's sort of in some ways

794
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: is the Leanna to his son. She's this mom who

795
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: stepped up and she's just being like.

796
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Thay, she just is the mom. He has a baby

797
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: with Chloe and a baby with Melissa.

798
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: Is the Molissa kid not also going to school there?

799
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, the Molissic kid. I think it's like back

800
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: in the States because I saw him post being like

801
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: my son graduated from eighth grade and I'm so proud. Okay, yeah,

802
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: And it was definitely like and it wasn't Halie based.

803
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he wasn't graduate.

804
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: From And him talking about like Monico schools is so funny.

805
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: He's being like he met all these people and they

806
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: spoke all these different languages and they could do so

807
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: much at this Monaco school.

808
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just basically been like every like white

809
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: liberal parent who's just like, I want my kid to

810
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: speak four languages and I'm enrolling them in Mandarin and

811
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 1: ah seven.

812
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I have to give it to him because

813
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: his career really popped off and he came back from

814
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Monaco and he started working with vig Fox, which I

815
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: was so happy. He devotes a full chapter.

816
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: Two yeah, and he says that she is the goat.

817
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: And then he starts doing all these kind of like

818
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: B movies, these kind of like Greater Tyler Perry, Viviget Fox,

819
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: like BT plus, like Pluto TV like No.

820
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: And I was like streaming, and I was like, Okay,

821
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: I do need to get a BET login that I've

822
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: been trying to get forever.

823
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: I watched like ten minutes of this movie that he

824
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: was in and he was just like the thing I

825
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: sent you where he was where It's like he's like

826
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: on the phone holding a perfume body. He's like, yes,

827
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: we just received the samples of the new perfume. We'll

828
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: put together a marketing strategy asap. And then just like

829
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: a hawk, girl comes in and he's just like, Wow,

830
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: you're so beautiful. I bought you a locket and she's like,

831
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: you're my client. I could never accept this locket.

832
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: Okay, And that was interesting because I watched more of

833
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 2: a thriller where he plays like an evil strip club owner.

834
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's got range well, and.

835
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: In this book he talks about how he's on the

836
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: set of this movie and like, during like a break,

837
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: ving raims to him, is like you should do rom

838
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: coms and he's like what, No, Like not me, I

839
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: only do thrillers. And he's like, no, man, you should

840
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: really do it. And then he's like someone overheard our

841
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: conversation and said I could do a rom com. So

842
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: then that's probably what you watched. You watched his transition

843
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: to a rom com.

844
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell where the movie was one of those

845
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: movies where it's like, maybe it could end up as

846
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: a thriller.

847
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: Right, Mine was verrely key was evil, but then he

848
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: also goes and does like a stage production of a

849
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: play called Her Lies His Secrets.

850
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: Oh, the one in Indiana.

851
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and he's like stage performance is so amazing.

852
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: It's also very Smith Jared of him to be like,

853
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm like a hot guy doing a play.

854
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then of course, like at the end of

855
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: kind of this tale and he's like less celebrity in

856
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: this way because he is just prison Bay. He's a

857
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: little more kind of like laying out his goals in

858
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Your's Resolutions at the end of the book, yeah, being like, look,

859
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: I actually really want to go to Brazil and like

860
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: my like Mama Donna who raised me but isn't my

861
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: mother is like half Japannee, and I would love to

862
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: visit Okannawa.

863
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: She's the funky mom in Medical Lake who is their

864
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: mom who was so like, if y'all want to do

865
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: weed and drink, that's okay, but I'd rather you do

866
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: it at my house.

867
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: He has sent to some charitable work that I just

868
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: want to read this passage. He's working with some kind

869
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: of underprivileged children. It got me to thinking, I know

870
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I know a lot of people

871
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: are really big brands who would love to get involved

872
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: to help those kids trapped in the system who didn't

873
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: have anyone giving them some clothes. A contacted my man

874
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: Rich at Fashion Nova because I've been doing a lot

875
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: of work with him, and asked they be willing to

876
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: supply these kids with some clothes. He came back instantly

877
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: and then he he gets all these kids some dope

878
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: clothes and Fashion Nova that's sick. And I was like, Okay,

879
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: you know, people.

880
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Say a Fashion Nomah makes incredibly low quality garments, and

881
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: I bought this really cheap pair of shorts like five

882
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: years ago, And are they like coming apart at the seams, Yes,

883
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: but like five years is not that bad for like

884
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: a forty dollars pair of shorts.

885
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: That's actually insanely long time.

886
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's not entirely my fault

887
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: that they're coming to part at the seams.

888
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're man spreading and like putting your little paws

889
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: down there doing some things in there.

890
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think my body has been sort of

891
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: man's breading the inside the shorts over the past.

892
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: I say, one of my favorite pair of casual shorts

893
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: is a pair of black Cargoes from Walmart in Wisconsin.

894
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: I got them because I was going tubing praise the Walmart.

895
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, they look good. They were ten bucks.

896
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: And I just think Rich at Fashion Nova is like

897
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: doing some amazing work. And I have to say, and

898
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: we'll review this, but I mean, honestly, I'm like so

899
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: proud of Jeremy Meeks and like he's kind of covered

900
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: a lot of topics in this book.

901
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, props to my man, because you know,

902
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: I do think his story is well, it's extraordinary because

903
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: of his bone structure. You know, he is able to

904
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: shed I pretty like non proselytizing light on our prison

905
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: system and how fucked up it is and.

906
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: How far to the prison system, how far to up

907
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical industry is.

908
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also love that part because he's saying,

909
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: like American doctors just pushed right out. I see on

910
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: him over and over and over again for his backpan,

911
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, when I was in Europe, I saw

912
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: that the way they dealt with this was much more

913
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: holistic approach. But America is just pills, pills, pills, And he's.

914
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 2: Like, oh, they didn't ask me if, like my family

915
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: had a history of addiction. First, I did. Yeah, I

916
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: don't know. I think Jeremy has also like done a

917
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: really good job like staying close to Melissa, his ex wife. Yeah,

918
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: and they actually went on a reality show to call

919
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: like After Happily ever af After Happily ever After, and

920
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: he was like, I really didn't want to go on

921
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: it because I knew like the industry and they would

922
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: just like edit us to look bad. But she really

923
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: wanted to go on it, and he was like, I'm

924
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: not going to deny her like piece of the pie

925
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: of fame. He's like, I got my fifteen minutes.

926
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's actually very very chill of him.

927
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's also his book, you know who.

928
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not a perfect father.

929
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure Melissa and Chloe, Yeah, have their started

930
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: the story.

931
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they on the side of the story and

932
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: they could say, you know, like you know when he

933
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: says like I was tempted by women, but like I

934
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: always told my manager to like have them not come

935
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: over to me when I'm doing all these like paid

936
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: appearances at just like a whatever like Mountain Dew event,

937
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: like at some nightclub. I'm kind of like, I'm sure

938
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: you were getting bezet with these cheeks.

939
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: Here we go the Daily Mail, our favorite website. In

940
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: the amounter of months ago, the model was forced to

941
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 2: deny they had split him in Chloe. That is after

942
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: he was photographed am and arm with Romanian born model

943
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: Andrea Sassu at two events during the Corn Film Festival.

944
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so our boy was double dibbit.

945
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he's being very like I love

946
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: both the mothers of my children. I would never look

947
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: at another woman named Andrea Sassu. Yeah, so don't believe

948
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: men all the time. Yeah, but like also proud of.

949
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: You, Jeremy.

950
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a con please.

951
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know what, Jeremy, I know, I came

952
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: into this book with like, you know, low expectations, just

953
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: based on the kind of the margin, the margin.

954
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: And like the reason because at the beginning I was

955
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: definitely kind of like, Okay, I know who you are,

956
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: but also like why am I reading this?

957
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like ultimately, like do I think that like

958
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: his story is I mean, I'm impressed with what he's done.

959
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: I like, I guess I'm out of everyone who gets

960
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: this kind of fame. He's maintained in a slightly more

961
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: interesting way, by doing these kind of like low grade,

962
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: like these almost like kind of tear read level kind

963
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: of films where.

964
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm just like kind of more gone into just like

965
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: a B level thriller that's like streaming, as we said, as.

966
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: Opposed to continuing to doing like Dancing with the Stars forever.

967
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think that's kind of it's more admirable.

968
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: He's way more into like the subject matter too.

969
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: I Also what I like about this book is, I

970
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: know we're getting into like reading it, but I'm like

971
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: because it's like so almost self published vibes, Like I

972
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: feel like there's stuff that wouldn't usually be in like

973
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: a bigger title where he's talking about the violence in prison,

974
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: like really intensely, And I think that's so important that

975
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: we talk about how actually violent it can be inside

976
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: the prison system, because a lot of the time that

977
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of violence isn't discussed.

978
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: No, and it's just more like, oh, you're violent, so

979
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: you should go to prison.

980
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: When it's like and he's just like, prison is full

981
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: of people who actually want to kill you, and it's

982
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: all these rival gangs and like everyone's getting murdered. Like

983
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: the whole part about prison riots and how it's just

984
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: like it's in deluge of death and blood and everyone's

985
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: getting stabbed left and right. Is so terrifying. And I

986
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: feel like a HarperCollins would kind of like really tame

987
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: that section down, yeah.

988
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: Because they would just be like, oh, wasn't it hard

989
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: for you there? Or maybe because they probably have so

990
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: many like Charles Manson books. I loved his little paragraph

991
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: bought Charles Manson. That was like we had one interaction

992
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: that was like horrible where basically like they were showering

993
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: and then like Charles Manson like screamed racial epithets about

994
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: him and he was like and then he just was

995
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: pacing on, mumbling, and he was like, okay, Grandpa, get

996
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: yourself to bed. I'm gonna go open all my fan mail, okay,

997
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: And he was like Charles Manson would get Duffels also

998
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: sent to him every single day.

999
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: That's fame for you. Yeah.

1000
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: And it's kind of the substance a little bit like

1001
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: like rival like hotties yea, and like Charles Manson is like,

1002
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, the racist called serial killer of the past

1003
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: the past, and then here's like hot poison Bay. It

1004
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: was much more just like victim of like fucked up

1005
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: police system, right, He's like, I actually didn't have to

1006
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: like run a colt and kill all of them. I'm

1007
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: just hot and I went to a bowling alley. Sorry,

1008
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm hot, and.

1009
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: I peeked during the height of mom Facebook in twenty

1010
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: sixteen hot segment What does she wear?

1011
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: What does she eat? How does she live?

1012
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: What does she wear? Fashion Nova?

1013
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 2: Fashion Nova? Like, I think he has also like really

1014
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: badass leather pieces. But I think it's also like maybe

1015
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: a little bit of like a baggy dickies and like

1016
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: sometimes like a beautiful linen shirt buttoned down, or it's

1017
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: like crazy skinny jeans and a Moto leather jacket.

1018
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: I definitely think it's crazy skinny jeans but slashes. I

1019
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: definitely think it's like.

1020
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: White linen suit from Fashion Nova.

1021
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Turtleneck, sexy turtleneck, sexy turtleneck, anyone leather jacket over sexy.

1022
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: Turtle dock sandals.

1023
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: But I also feel like he is still having a

1024
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: little bit of a gang bang or vibe and doing

1025
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: like big clean white T shirt or is he not

1026
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: because he's so I left that life behind.

1027
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's left that life behind. I think

1028
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: it's a little more like and everything's more hitted now

1029
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: tight shirt, right.

1030
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, I want to go to Brazil and

1031
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: a tight shirt and that's my goal for twenty.

1032
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: Twenty with like kind of like this like white zipper

1033
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: Pleathan jacket.

1034
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: The movie I watched the sidebar, but the Love Interest, Yeah,

1035
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: it starts out she's trying to get pegnant and she's

1036
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: on the toilet like taking a pegrancy test, and she

1037
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: has an anklet on both ankles. So I wonder if, like,

1038
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: do you think he ever got Chloe like an anklet

1039
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: as a gift, like with her credit card?

1040
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, here's your visa books. Yeah, and

1041
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: he's like, no, I'm gonna pay with this with my

1042
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: like and trauma de fashion show money.

1043
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Okay. How does he live?

1044
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: I think he?

1045
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Do you think he lives like in a two bedroom

1046
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: condo in La.

1047
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: Es two bedroom calibasas for me, because he thinks Colabossos

1048
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: is beautiful.

1049
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's living in such a family place.

1050
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: No.

1051
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: No, now that he's like single, I feel like he

1052
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: has a bachelor pad.

1053
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: In lowerl Canyon.

1054
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. No, I think it's like a little bit

1055
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: more just like Valley. No, like Korea Town.

1056
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: I don't think he lives in Korea. Cinta Monica, more

1057
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Santa Monica, like he sees more or even Venice Beach,

1058
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: Like he's more beach to me, he's so Venice, right,

1059
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: And he's like on a longboard and he's taking his

1060
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: son's longboarding.

1061
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cute. It's so cute dream Okay. And

1062
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhat underdecorated.

1063
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a dad in this way. But

1064
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: I think it's like frame posters of like the Dutch

1065
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: Three that's one of the movie season right, self published author.

1066
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: I feel like when I was looking at the movies,

1067
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: they were all like already sequels.

1068
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: It's everything. It's like a sequel of a sequel.

1069
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got the Dutch three framed, and maybe like

1070
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: there's definitely like a lot of like families where the

1071
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: home is like silver frames.

1072
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and like frame photos of like all of his wives.

1073
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like him and Melissa are getting each other's

1074
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: shotter flies for Christmas like constantly.

1075
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: But like he also like has been to like beautiful

1076
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: European churches, and I feel like has gotten some like

1077
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: weird gifts for himself.

1078
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: You think he's buying some like beautiful cross. Yeah, potchki cross.

1079
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: Helpsed like Pastor Davis. He is very new church.

1080
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not buying like a beautiful like medieval like

1081
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: fake cross.

1082
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: Okay, but he takes that author to like a church

1083
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: and he's like, here we are two former gang members.

1084
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: I think there's maybe a cross or two in the house.

1085
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's.

1086
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: Like I'm just travel cross. I was not trying really

1087
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: about a travel concept, like a framed European photo from

1088
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: a kiosk in a tourist area.

1089
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well. Agree you think he got

1090
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: like a cool postcard of just like Courchevelle and he's

1091
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: just like and he's like, he took it to his framers.

1092
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: What is he me?

1093
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Speaker 2: He could be very Framebridge and he's like, hey, is

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Speaker 2: anything you want to frame?

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Speaker 1: No, I think Melissa is Framebridge, Framebridge, Massachusetts over here.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, he's kind of like part Rhode Island Indian as.

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Speaker 1: I says Warwick. Yeah so, and he did not have

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Speaker 1: a great time in Rhode Island.

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Speaker 2: No, he left pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Many don't. Yeah, what does he eat?

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Speaker 2: I think he is like protein protein protein.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's missed Jim. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It literally is just like grilled chicken.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I want to say he goes

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Speaker 1: to a gym that's like it's not like such a

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Speaker 1: crunch like.

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Speaker 2: Or P thirty five or whatever that program is.

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Speaker 1: It's some kind of like new male kind of local

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Speaker 1: chain where there's like seven locations in Los Angeles and

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Speaker 1: it's called Evolve.

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Speaker 2: Or like, yeah, it's evolved Jim.

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Speaker 1: He has a train or like the build or something,

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Speaker 1: and it's like one hundred dollars a month, like it's

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Speaker 1: not EQUINAX prices, but it's not blank.

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Speaker 2: No, And I think it's small. But he works out

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Speaker 2: a lot, and I think it's like what he's eating.

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Speaker 2: It's like tons of protein powders, and I think it's.

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Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, oh, the kitchen is like creating.

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Speaker 2: Up the who Yeah, And then he's doing a nonstick

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Speaker 2: pan grilled chicken, which is and just kind of throwing

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Speaker 2: a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Powders and all that weird like plastic coating is getting

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Speaker 1: all over the food. And honestly, frankly he's the air fier.

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Speaker 1: Yes for the kids, Yeah, they love it and always

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Speaker 1: putting like salmon bites in or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's just like broccoli maybe like rice pouches. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: like Melissa is a better cook.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's also airfier. But she's saying that she's

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Speaker 1: like better at using the air fire.

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Speaker 2: Does he missed the food and want to cove?

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Speaker 1: I bet he do.

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Speaker 2: And then I think like he cheats on his diet

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Speaker 2: when he travels. He's having like one pre here.

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Speaker 1: I think actually he's not, because he's so disciplined in

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Speaker 1: like learning his lines for a play. I kind of

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Speaker 1: think that he's like actually not cheating on the diet.

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Speaker 1: I think though he will and he's culture Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: tasting the cultures too, but I'm saying he's not being

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Speaker 1: so James Candelpini and loading up on like six orders

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Speaker 1: of trimpet four.

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Speaker 2: I have half of the schnitzel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he'll have a few bites with Rachel style.

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Speaker 2: Oh. And I kind of like, I'm like, is he

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Speaker 2: sober now? Because he was like I smokedweed all. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: Now he's into mushrooms.

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00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: He's solos, yeah, because he said mushrooms are about wellness.

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Speaker 2: And his like healing journey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's actually always like being more ayahuasca now right,

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00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: and I think your depression. I couldn't tell if that

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Speaker 1: friend Ugo at the end was a gay designer, that

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Speaker 1: he was. This fashion designer was really important. He was

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Speaker 1: a stylist.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the book, it gets a little

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Speaker 2: more male friendship in this way that is a little

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00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: more like, Hm, I think I'm g Shedeed and.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're super lated.

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Speaker 2: I'm so laid back, and I'm like introducing him to

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Speaker 2: my like Era's friend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I'm Germany meet because I've been to

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Speaker 1: jail many times. And also hello. When he gets deported

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Speaker 1: from the UK, that was that literally it really happened

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Speaker 1: to me. And when he said they sent him back

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Speaker 1: to New York instead of la where he'd come from.

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Speaker 1: You and they sent me to Washington, d C. Instead

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Speaker 1: of New York where I came from and you never

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Speaker 1: bolt and they marched me through heathrow and handcuffs just

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Speaker 1: like they did with him. I was like, wait and

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Speaker 1: they were waiting for you all yeah, and they got

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Speaker 1: like interrogated in the same cell I was probably out.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, girl, same fucking vibes. If you've

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Speaker 1: been detained a Heathrow and deported back to America to

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Speaker 1: a city you haven't that you didn't fly from.

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Speaker 2: Girls also very like both of you guys were. It's

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Speaker 2: like his parole officer could have maybe told him that

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Speaker 2: he was going to be deporter from Heathrow and he

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Speaker 2: was like, oh girl, I'm going to London.

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Speaker 1: No I know. And it was like literally like I

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Speaker 1: could have done one ounce of research to like know

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Speaker 1: that I shouldn't have showed up without a return to

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Speaker 1: get in like a huge bag saying I want to

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Speaker 1: do and.

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Speaker 2: Say you want to be a piano teacher and a journalist, dumbass.

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Speaker 1: And I still do and that's my goal for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: To Jeremy like literally, dope job. I give this book

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Speaker 2: a three point seven nonstick pans out of pans. I think, like,

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Speaker 2: for what is supposed to be some dumb book about

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Speaker 2: an influencer, I think he's shone a light. I'm a

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Speaker 2: lot more going on our country than some of these

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Speaker 2: celebrities do with the end of their book about their

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Speaker 2: little foundations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the light being shown. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: is it a work of great literature? No?

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Speaker 2: Does he repeat himself all the time, absolutely, like he'll

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Speaker 2: do a page will be like I grew up in

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Speaker 2: Medical Lake, and then the next page will be like

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Speaker 2: as I said, someone who grew.

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Speaker 1: Up in medical up in medical Lake, Like no, we

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Speaker 1: got it, No, we got it. Sure, yeah No. I

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Speaker 1: give this three out of five. What's it called bad decisions?

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Speaker 1: What's the drink?

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Speaker 2: Audio? Smotherfuck audios, motherfuckers? And I think it like gave

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Speaker 2: a light to a lot of kind of like be

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Speaker 2: my thrillers that like I think I am such a fan.

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Speaker 1: Of yea And definitely log into your t Plus account

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Speaker 1: today or join or join and watch some new thrillers

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Speaker 1: that maybe you weren't playing and.

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Speaker 2: You'll have ads, but you know, pick your poison, okay best.

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Speaker 2: This episode was produced edited by Darby Masters. I would

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Speaker 2: like to thank our supervising producer of Uzafar. I would

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Speaker 2: also like to thank in this episode our executive producer

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Speaker 2: Christina Everett.

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Speaker 1: I would like to thank our engineer by Heat Frasers,

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Speaker 1: all the beheats through whom I've experienced deep discovery, strength, weakness, failure, love, brokenness, virality, growth, humility,

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Speaker 1: and I still have found my way to the top

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Speaker 1: of the podcast industry, so I thank him for his efforts.

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Speaker 2: An inspiring force for me and my journey has been

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Speaker 2: the music of Stephen Philips Forts, who has done the

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Speaker 2: music as well as the artwork of Teddy Blanks, which

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Speaker 2: I have duplicates. I can't afford the real ones, but

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Speaker 2: I have kind of imitations of his work in my house.

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Speaker 1: I carry with me in every room and space to

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Speaker 1: enter of fullness that comes from many places, including our

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Speaker 1: previous production company, Prologue Projects, and the work that we

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Speaker 1: did to create the experiences and emotions that I continue

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Speaker 1: to feel today on this show, and I thank them

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Speaker 1: much for their service, and I have profound respect for

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Speaker 1: my village.

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Speaker 2: I'm eternally thankful for you club kids, for your love

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Speaker 2: and encouragement and wisdom through your unconditional love of joining.

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Speaker 2: If you have been unconditional to us and have joined

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Speaker 2: our Patreon, that's beautiful. If you feel like being a

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Speaker 2: little more unconditional with your love and wants to join

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Speaker 2: the Patreon if you do have the funds to do it,

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Speaker 2: I would encourage you to do that. Patreon dot com.

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Speaker 2: Plush you see the podcast. Thank you