1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: What's going on with you guys is Loan from It's 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Up the podcast. I wanted to let you guys in 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: on the exclusive interview that I have that's available only 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: on Patreon dot com. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: It's Up That podcast. 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: This interview is with Mall from the Joe Button Podcast 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: or formerly from Joe Button Podcast, currently of the new 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Royal Mall podcast. 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: This is a twenty minute excerpt. 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: What we have talked about in this podcast is monumental 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: in regards to the confusion that was caused on Behalf 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: for the split of Roory and Maall from Joe Button Podcast. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: If you want to see this video and this interview 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: is in its entirety without ads, you need to come 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: to Patreon dot com It's up That podcast again www 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: dot Patreon dot com slash It's Up There podcast. 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We have a 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: whole team of people that are pitching the add things 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: here and there, but they get our personality. They know 30 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: what we're trying to look like, what we're trying to do, 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: what we're trying to create. So it's just like it's 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 3: like a whole bunch of you know, people just hanging 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: out on the dorm having fun. 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: Man, And it feels like that even when y'all left 36 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: the Joe Budden podcast, right, even the approach of the 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 4: clip that came out when y'all was like we're looking 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: for work, that was just even a unique approach. Even 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: looking back at it, it's like y'all were early on 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: the skit type of y'all might be the only people 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: doing that in podcasting from a creative standpoint, I don't know. 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: I mean, the White Boys do it like full Sin Logan, 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: Paul and those guys. But from our standpoint, yeah, maybe 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: trailblazing in that. 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: That's something that we want to you know, ultimately get 46 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: into his TV and film and in long form sketches 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: and things like that, just because we have so many 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: ideas and things that we take from real life situations, 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: which was what the the Got Fired skit was when 50 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: we first quote unquote got fired. So we decided to 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: take that and have some fun with it and create 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: something that you know, we thought, we think, we thought 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: the people would like, and they they loved it, and 54 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: that was all. 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: You know, people reached out and said who wrote that? 56 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: Who wrote that? It was like that, you know, we 57 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: freestyled the whole thing. None of that was written. 58 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: That was all just circumstantial and you know, we just 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: came up with the circumstances and we just let the 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: camera run. 61 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: That's dope. That's super dope. 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It was the name was 85 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: our name is podcast? 86 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Like? 87 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: When did you arrive on the scene? 88 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: Do you remember thinking it was like episode seventy seven? 89 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: Maybe okay, yeah, yeah. 90 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: And so sweat equity was mentioned, right, blood sweating tears 91 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: and your departure from there was an unfortunate one, and 92 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: it was it was ugly, It was fortunate right, we 93 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 4: just talked about it. You say you're very fortunate, right right. 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: You told me when when I was out there smoking, 95 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: you said loan, I would have been okay with helping 96 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: her home. 97 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've always That's all I've ever been. 98 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: You know, I've always wanted to be somebody that helped. 100 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: Like if it's somebody you know, if I what you uh, 101 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: or if I feel like, you know, I believe in 102 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: what you're doing and I see your vision and I 103 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: feel like I can offer some assistance even if it's not. 104 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm not. 105 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: It's not about me getting nothing financially from it all 106 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: the time necessarily. I just feel like if I'm able 107 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 3: to which I think we should do in our culture 108 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: more anyway, It's like, Yo, if I if I have 109 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: a plug somewhere or connect somewhere where I can help 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: you elevate what you got going on and get you 111 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: to a next level somewhere, why not because I would 112 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: want somebody to do the same for me. So, you know, 113 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: especially when it's you know, quote unquote friends, and I 114 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: feel like that goes without saying it's like, yeah, I 115 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: help you out, like I helpe you do whatever. Let's 116 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: let's do it. Let's but we're gonna and we get 117 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: to have fun. Why not to say it's a win 118 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: win situation. So yeah, it was all about me, just 119 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: you know, getting in and trying to help elevate something 120 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: and bring some type of you know, energy into a 121 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: situation where it made for a complete a complete circle. 122 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: And now do you have clarity because over the last 123 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: couple of months that's been shots took by you by 124 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: Joe Budden just about what y'all perceived to be the truth. 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: You say that Joe stealing, he says that he's not stealing. 126 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: Of course, you say, I'll come up that showed me 127 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: the books. Do it on your platform and it'll make 128 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: for great content. 129 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: Put it behind your paywall. Do what you will. Let's 130 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: not put it. 131 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: Listen, man, you know, and I want to be very clear, 132 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: it's this is not you know, I don't, I'm not. 133 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: It's no ill feelings, it's no beef, it's no you know, 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: it's all love. Man. 135 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 136 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: Like I said, at one point, you know, we was 137 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: all real friends, and you know so that that doesn't 138 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: just go away, you know what I'm saying. So it's 139 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: not a beef thing. I think that everything happened for 140 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: a reason. We're very fortunately, very blessed Rory myself to 141 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: land where we landed and be able to do what 142 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: we're doing right now. So everything happens for a reason. 143 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: It's just the unfortunate part of it is, you know, 144 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: when just just his lies start to come into play 145 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: and you know, trying to you know, tear somebody's character 146 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: apart and things like that. You know, the truth is 147 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: the truth, though, you know what I mean. And as 148 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: I always tell my brother Rory, you know, you know, 149 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: because we have talks and he you know, Rory gets 150 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: into these moves where he's like, man, I don't want. 151 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: To just keep going through this bullshit with this dude. 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, but Rory, when the truth is 153 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: on your side, everything is gonna be okay, man, you 154 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So you know, it is what 155 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: it is. But yeah, I mean. 156 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: The truth is the truth. 157 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: And you know, we were we were taking advantage of 158 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: and you know, we had money, a lot of money 159 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: stolen from us and taking from us and it's fucked up. 160 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, if that's the way it 161 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: had to happen, for us to be in a situation 162 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: where in now, in the position we're in now in 163 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: our lives. 164 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: And so be it. You don't fuck around and made 165 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: you taught you how to fish? 166 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean put you in a situation now where 167 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: you went and got the information. 168 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 3: The thing is, I always knew how to fish, right, 169 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes I don't mind, you know, getting 170 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: on your boat and helping you fresh right, you know 171 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: what I mean. So you know, if you felt like, 172 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, that was your boat and you know you're 173 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: the big skipper, and you know what I'm saying, you 174 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: want it's like. 175 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: And so but in podcast and with it being a 176 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: new industry, it's like, you know, I gotta give Joe 177 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: some credit in regards to he did kind of. 178 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: Make it not easier, but y'all together you lifted less, right. 179 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: And so what I'm saying is like this new industry, 180 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: nobody kind of understood how to move. Unfortunately, whatever deal 181 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: he placed y'all in that y'all agreed on, he and 182 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: what you're saying is. 183 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: Steel wouldn't stick to the deal that he had in place. 184 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think when we uh looking back, 185 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: I think when we signed our percentage agreement with each other. 186 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that he anticipated the amount of money 187 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: that was going to be offul to us. So I 188 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: think once that money came into play, I think that 189 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: something inside of him just wasn't comfortable. And it's it's 190 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: crazy when you think about it, but I think something 191 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: inside of him was like he wasn't comfortable seeing us 192 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: get that money, you know what I mean. But that 193 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: happens with us a lot. Man, Like it's a deeper, whole, 194 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: deeper you know, story behind that. It's like in our culture, 195 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: you know, we say we want to see each other, 196 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: eat and see each other, but it's like, you know, 197 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: somebody come in. 198 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 2: Here with a whole buffet. It's like, damn, I was 199 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: gonna get these slice. I didn't want to get these 200 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: dictate what they're able to do. You understand. 201 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: And that's unfortunate, bro, because you can't win like that. Yeah, 202 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: you know, and and I believe that to see you 203 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: rad and Will Rory says so much about your character 204 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: just from me on the outside looking in, because I 205 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 4: see the years from you and Joe, I see you 206 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: know you on the Love and Hip Hop episodes, see 207 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: how far back y'all go. And it's like it gotta 208 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: be principal somewhere that he's standing on because what else 209 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: would make him rad with a dude that he met 210 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: alone the way. 211 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just right as right and wrong as wrong. 212 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, and you know the fans 213 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: and the supporters and listeners they have a very short 214 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: term memory. But just go back to you know the 215 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: reason why you know, we didn't show up the recorders 216 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: because you know, he told Rory not to cut on 217 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And I said, whoh you he don't 218 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: work for you. You can't tell him not to come 219 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: in it, right like, And I'm definitely not gonna record 220 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: without him, right you know. 221 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: What I mean? So just go back to that. 222 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm that's just me though, Like if it's 223 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: something wrong, then let's fix it before any of us 224 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: move forward. But me and you are not going to 225 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: record without our brother, our partner. 226 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: That was the deep moment I'm talking about. 227 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 4: Dad was there right there because in my opinion, you 228 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: hurt Joe because Joe felt like. 229 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: Yo, Rory, but mile straight? But why but why is it? 230 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: But and see that's the things that people don't know 231 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: behind the scenes, it was like, but why why are 232 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: you Why everybody. 233 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: Ain't doing that even when you look at Parks, some 234 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: of the fans to say that his position is my boat. 235 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: Everything right around me looked good at. 236 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: It, and you know, and and Parks was you know, 237 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: I've known Parks for years, good good, good person, deep 238 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: deep inside, he's a good person. I just think that, uh, 239 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: you know, the position that he may be in and 240 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: painted himself in the corner to where he don't really 241 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: have enough wiggle room to really get his off and 242 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: say what he wanted to say. But that's why I 243 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: tweeted a few weeks I said, Parks knows because part 244 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: I've known Parks for years. 245 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 2: Man. For the most part, he's a good dude. 246 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: I just think that he's just a little in too 247 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: deep on the business in and he has a lot 248 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: of things tied in with Joe business wise, so he 249 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: can't really really rattle that boat and shake the tree 250 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: too much. 251 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: But he knows man. And those guys, all of those 252 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: guys over there, all those guys. 253 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: In the room, they know me. They've known me for 254 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: at least twelve years. They know that I'm not I 255 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: never did no sucking shit, no foul shit. I've never 256 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: you know, done no wax to nobody, so they know 257 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: my characters. So you know, it's just that everybody got 258 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: is kind of in the business because they got to 259 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: choose the side, right and you know, they chose to 260 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: ride with with Homie and it's all good, you know 261 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like I said, it's no beef, man, 262 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: it's no you know, this podcast and things, sometimes you 263 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: get a little weird, like everybody feel like it's competitive 264 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: and it's beef, and it's so I know what real 265 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: beef looks like. 266 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: This is no beef, you know what I'm saying. 267 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, they had to choose a side, 268 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: and you know, it's all good. Like I said, you know, 269 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: Rory and myself were able to pivot and land on 270 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: our feet and do what we do. And like I said, 271 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: we just came back from showing almost seven hundred eight 272 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: hundred tickets in the UK. 273 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 2: The same night Dave Chappelle had a show. By the way, 274 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: it's dope. You know, that's dope. Shout out to y'all. 275 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: And you know what, when I was telling you when 276 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: y'all first, when it first happened. I was afraid for 277 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: y'all because I was thinking, like, and I got this 278 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: from b Marshall with the episode I just did with him, well, 279 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: I would have put y'all in a situation to over extend, 280 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: because I felt like immediately there was this thing in 281 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: the market between y'all two and he was trying to 282 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: battle to look like he was still in a good place, 283 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: and y'all was trying to say, YO were on our 284 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 4: own now, and I was saying, spend the money, go 285 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: get a building, go get a sick go get this, 286 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 4: go get that, And y'all bubbled it right up, and 287 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: the fan basic y'all, y'all activated it and took it 288 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: to the next level. 289 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: Y'all did that shit. 290 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we just you know again, we don't want 291 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: to go fast. We want to go right. We want 292 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: to do it right. We want to move right, and 293 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: we have a vision for ourselves and we want to 294 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: look like and we ultimately want to end up. And 295 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: I think we're doing a great job of doing that. 296 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: You know, we're not running out getting a guest. We 297 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: don't want to be too heavily guest based every week 298 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: because then you paint yourself on the corner with that 299 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 3: when it's like okay, we can't get a guest, So 300 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: who do we you know what I mean, who do we? 301 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: What do we do now? 302 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: So we kind of want to just show people that 303 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: we can create something where we we basically wear the 304 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: talent and we rely on ourselves, on our own personalities 305 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: to uh, to push this thing forward and then pulling 306 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: on you know, guests that we really have a personal 307 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: relationship with that we we kind of already have some 308 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: type of rapport with and you know, just do something 309 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: more creative aside from just sitting down talking like we 310 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: ultimately want to move into like a TV and film 311 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: space and uh, you know, do things on that level 312 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: because you know, we have the talent and ability to 313 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: do that, which is what we try to show with 314 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: some of our skits and promo pieces and things like 315 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: that for the live shows. 316 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: Be dope to know, I mean, just try to show 317 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: a little just some some some versatility and what we're doing. Right, 318 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: do you think you hurt Joe Budden? 319 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: Do you think now let me ask you this, when 320 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: did you start to pivot towards Rory like hold on 321 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 4: with something ain't right that ain't cool. 322 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: When did? When was that? You know it? 323 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: We Rory and myself developed a relationship naturally on the 324 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: show throughout the years, but you know, in that situation, 325 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: the business and things like that, it was it honestly 326 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: became a thing where it was it fell into that 327 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: because we were on the same side of the fight. 328 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: Like we both we both were fighting for the same thing. 329 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: Like it was like, all right, we have this, you know, 330 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: this deal there. 331 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: But I felt like he would have straightened you out 332 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: and not straightened Rory. Real but even that, I wouldn't 333 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: go for it, I know it, But I felt like 334 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: that's what hurt him. Right when he said I remember 335 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: a time when he said, I never remember I never 336 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: saw saw the day. 337 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was talking about you. 338 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah he would, I'm telling you man, something about you. 339 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, stunging. 340 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we we had a relationship for so 341 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: many years, and and the dude's a white boy. But 342 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: this principal, it's all of this with me. I don't 343 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: care how long I know you, I don't care. You know, 344 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: it's principal. It's integrity, is it's honor, you know what 345 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: I mean. So it's like right as right, wrong, is wrong, 346 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna stand there and allow somebody that 347 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: because I looked at it like we're a team. We 348 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: all in this boat together, you know what I mean, 349 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: We stay on that stage together. 350 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: So it's so many that were the roll where they 351 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: knew for ten fifteen years only because it's like, what 352 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: do I got to lose? 353 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's the but that and again that's the problem 354 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: with us. It is it's like this. 355 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: And I'm telling you salute from one real to another 356 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: one even there. 357 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: Everything else I the winder. Just I'm saying that. 358 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: Look like from my perspective, it's principle involved in that absolutely, 359 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: because it's my guy right here. I'm man, I was 360 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: with this guy when he will raggedly, raggedly I'm talking about. 361 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: Man. 362 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: If you go back and say, I ain't never been raging. 363 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: I come out of the street with some you understand, 364 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: no cap on that, no ten on it. You go 365 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: back some you say, damn home was kind of it 366 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: seemed fun over there a little bit financially, and that's 367 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: cool because we all had to come from something. But 368 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: y'all help lift that. How much weight do you think 369 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: you lifted over there? One hundred percent of the lifting 370 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: with the Joe Budden Podcast up into your departure. 371 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: How much do you say was your contribution. I mean, 372 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: I think I contributed a lot. I think I lifted 373 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: a lot. You go back to some of the earlier episodes. 374 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: I think that's when it started to turn just because 375 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: I think the personality, my personality and my relationship with 376 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: Joe was so unique and so honest, and you know, 377 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: I think that that helped turn it into what it became. 378 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Even if you go back to the Charlemagne episode, Charlemagne 379 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: said it, he said, you know, this thing didn't really 380 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: pop until mag got here. 381 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a squashit with you as Charlamagne. Man. 382 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: I know y'all got a little bit sad that he been. 383 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: He been, he done right, He doing right by me, man, Charlamagne, Listen, 384 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: I know he does. He does things behind the scenes 385 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: for people that you know, our salute and I respect. 386 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: I just didn't, you know, let me finish the point though, 387 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: getting to that. So yeah, I just think that the 388 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: relationship that we had with each other, because I still 389 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: don't really like saying his name, but the relationship that 390 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: we had with each other, I think it was so 391 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: honest and so real, and it was dope to see 392 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 3: and so many people could relate to it. I think 393 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: that helped lift it. With him and Rory and Choutut 394 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: to Mauritsa, what they had I think was unique as well. 395 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, you insert somebody that 396 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: had a real, uh relationship, the relationship that we had 397 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: with each other, and you put that on mic and 398 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: on camera. I think people gravitate towards that, the stories, 399 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: the uh, you know, holding each other. He was intentional 400 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: with I'll give him some credit on this. He was 401 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: intentional with the consumer facing when it comes to you, right. 402 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: He was intentional with saying, man, you're just too cool. 403 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: Man, you dress better than me. 404 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: Man. 405 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: He was intentional on camera with that. He's smart enough 406 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: to know what he's doing when he's doing. Now, what 407 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: he doesn't say says more to me about him than 408 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: what he does say on camera. 409 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So he's. 410 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 4: Somebody that's intentional with doing that. And I'll give him 411 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: a little credit with trying to have the consumers accept 412 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: you in a way where it's like this is my 413 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: cool pot up. 414 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 415 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 4: And it even translated to someone like a Charlemagne that 416 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: was like, you know what, mal is that too now? 417 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: Even though you that he was putting something on it. 418 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and and I you know, and and again 419 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: it was all it made for what it became exactly 420 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: like it was all part of it was a beautiful thing. 421 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: I just think that ultimately, which happens a lot in 422 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: our community and on our culture, ego just killed and destroyed. 423 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: And it you know, it kills from within, it destroys 424 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: from within. And you know that's a fight that I 425 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: can't stand in front of. Ego is something that you 426 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: gotta battle with personally. So I just step out the 427 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: way and I'll let you, you know, have that battle 428 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: with yourself. Right And you know, even speaking about about 429 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: the lifting thing, there was a moment. Do you remember 430 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: when he got fired from Everyday Struggle? 431 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? What was the atmosphere? Do you remember the atmosphere? Then? 432 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: Vaguely I remember, And again that's interesting because we only 433 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: got his side of the story, but I vaguely remember 434 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: he came in and was like, you know, we started 435 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: talking about it on the show, like, you know, they 436 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: they wouldn't let the creators create and you know, they 437 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: won't let me smoke in the bathroom. 438 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: And it was just a whole bunch and I was 439 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: just like, okay, whatever, you know. I mean, that wasn't 440 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 2: my business. 441 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 4: And you know me no understanding the information. And I 442 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: want the young creators and everybody watching this if you 443 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: know my brain, if you hear and you don't know 444 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 4: my brain. Were about information, right, We're about elevation. Anything 445 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: we speak about we extract and experience from things that 446 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 4: we can explain so people can evolve. All this is about, right. 447 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: But with the everyday struggle situation, y'all gave him a blanket. 448 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: I know, you you know, let him go on his rants. 449 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: He was talking and all of that, but it was 450 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: a situation where he needed y'all more than he can 451 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 4: explain in that moment. 452 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: At that point, he had just had a baby. 453 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: He had just had this situation where he thought he 454 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: was getting further in the building and then all of 455 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: a sudden he thought he had leverage. And that's something 456 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: that happens with him. For some reason, he missed places 457 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 4: where he think his leverage. Is not that he doesn't 458 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 4: have leverage, there's just something happening with his idea of leverage. 459 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: I don't when he goes to try to utilize what 460 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 4: he think his leverage is. There's something happening, right, and 461 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: so with complex they let him go, you know whatever 462 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: in receipt of your email, because I've been looking at 463 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 4: some of the shit knowing that we were gonna sit down, 464 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: and when he came am and sat down with y'all, 465 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: that was home. 466 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: He still had that. 467 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: And I continue to let people know that it's hard 468 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: to do a podcast by yourself. It's damnar impossible. And 469 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 4: if it was possible, I think that he would have 470 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: done it by himself. 471 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: By now, I wonder did y'all know how important y'all 472 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: were to him in that moment for. 473 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: Him to be able to land right there with his 474 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: two homeboys comfortable way he has conversations week after week 475 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: after week and be able to talk to the fans 476 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: and create the narrative that he was able to create. 477 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 3: I mean, we thought we were pretty important, but now 478 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: you listen to the things that he says now about us, 479 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: we weren't that important. So you know, I mean again, man, 480 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: you know, we just try to play our part.