1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: But maybe the most important issue that we're dealing with 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: right now is the censorship. And you talked about the 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: intelligence agencies and the way they're colluding with social media, 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: and it's really attacking that freedom of speech because they're. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: All for the freedom of speech if you agree with them. 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Sure the speech isn't to protect the speech you like. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: It's inversely the speech you don't like it. 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: Right, it's the speech you hate it, speech you you 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: find the most loathsome. You're either and as Noam Shamsky said, 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: you know you're either for all of it or for 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: none of it. Act locally, it really is your school board. 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: It really is the board of supervisors, right, it's the mayor. 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: If you show up and you make your voice heard, 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: it'll make an impact. 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: You can do it. Speak your mind, America, So what's 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: on your mind? 18 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: It was really around twenty thirteen and we're like something's 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: going on here twenty. 20 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: Thirteen or the Obama administration. 21 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: It felt like I said it at the time, we're 22 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: sliding towards tyranny that administration, particularly that US against them 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: mentality kind of started there, and then by the time, 24 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: you know, the pandemic hit. I was like, I see 25 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: what's this is? You know, they're not messing around. 26 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I believe that all freedom comes with the ability but 27 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: on the base of the freedom to transact. And I'm 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: curious your take on bitcoin. Are you a bitcoiner? 29 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: So I would say, like I used to say, it's an. 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Rob Snyder, We're gonna have freedom Fest. And I know 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: you took the time out of this out of your 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: day because I know freedom is important to you. 33 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what else is there? Mark? 34 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Well, like you said, it beats the alternative? 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think of people who people who really 36 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: experienced tyranny, like Yeoman for a, Yeoman Park from North Korea. 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeoman Parks. 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: She she knows. 39 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: I mean she's she's experienced the the the complete utter 40 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: opposite of verr being able to express your own free will. 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: And uh, you know my friend Elijah Baskin from this 42 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: former Soviet Union, he's a great actor. 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: He was in Moscow on the Hudson with Rob Williams. 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: It says what they are doing to your kant right 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Down't you know that's what we did then, Sylvia at 46 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: the end, Yeah, that's what that's what they are. 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Rip beat. 48 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: Then why are you then you know, so they know. 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So you're writing a new book, which I 50 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: love the title you can do it. Yeah. I just 51 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: threw that you can do it. These people might speak 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: your mind America. So the question i'd ask you. The 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: book is coming out soon, it'll be out before after 54 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: this interview, but you can do it. Speak your mind America. 55 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: So what's on your mind? 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, I I. 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: Didn't seek out to be at the Freedom Fest one day. 58 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: When I started in show business, I just wanted to 59 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: make funny movies. But I feel that it was really 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: around twenty thirteen. I want, like, something's going on here, 61 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,559 Speaker 3: and there was twenty thirteen, twenty thirteen or the Obama administration. 62 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: It felt like, uh, it felt like we were I 63 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: said it at the time, we were sliding towards tyranny. 64 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it is. 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: And I think it's that administration, particularly that US against 66 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: them mentality kind of started there. And you know, I mean, 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: if anything showed that America was becoming a better uh 68 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: you know lay, you know, a more open, inclusive society, 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: it certainly was electing the first black president, right, and 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: so instead of embracing that and pushing forward, I think 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: they just exacerbated. 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: Uh and created more conflict. 73 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: And and I think it's uh, it's it was destructive. 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: It's destructive, and it's unfortunately we in a free society. 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: You are susceptible too, uh to attack because of that freedom. 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: So I noticed that happening at that time. And then 78 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: it's slowly, you know, with more and more. You know, 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: they always say it's for your safety, but uh. And 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: then by the time that you know, the pandemic hit, 81 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: I was like, I see, what's this is a you 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: know they're not messing around. Yeah, yeah, it's a they 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: do want to you see the kind of democracy fatigue 84 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: which happened around the twenty tens, and then it kind 85 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: of turned into freedom fatigue where people are like, a, hey, 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be all that like guys, some somebody else 87 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: decided for me. And it's you know, freedom is messy. 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: It's it's certainly you have to balance out the anarchy 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: of you know, complete freedom with no rules and everything 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: is complete anarchy, and then you have absolute no no 91 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: freedom and everything's decided for you is abject tyranny. So 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: there's a balance, but it's always been a balance in 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: our society. For personal individual liberty, you know, with rules 94 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: put in place. So when you saw, I saw that 95 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: g chipped away, and I think that that is a 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: critical thing to just to step up and to speak 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: up to preserve this. 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Because it is it is a rarity. 99 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: It is a rare thing to have freedom of will 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: and freedom to choose to do. 101 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: What you want and to speak your mind. 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: It is in the majority of if you look at 103 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: the history of humanity, most human beings did not get 104 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: to enjoy what we are. We have seemingly taken for 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: granted or and letting if not slip away where it's degrading. Yeah. 106 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the fish doesn't know it's in water 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: kind of a thing, right. 108 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a good analogy. 109 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. So of course Obama ran on a platform saying 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: he was going to fundamentally transform America. So apparently he. 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: Should have been worry about that because I don't think 112 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: we need fundamentally We. 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Didn't need to fundamentally transform the found ndations of what 114 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: America was on. 115 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: No, but the luckily it can't. 116 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: I mean that administration and the one we're in now, 117 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: I mean I agree with the with Robert Kennedy Junior. 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: I'm not like it's it's alarming, but the system's pretty good. 119 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: I mean, if you'll notice even Obama, I mean, you know, 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: after Obama and you have the Biden administration. Now we 121 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: don't know really who's running it, but it seems pretty obvious. 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: I mean people that the you know, after the during 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: the pandemic, you realize the conspiracy theories to fact was 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: about six months to six hours. Yeah, so you know, 125 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: we don't really know who's running things, but it certainly 126 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: isn't that the. 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: Stumbling, bumbling, you know, uh, brain addled. Uh you know, 128 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: I mean Biden was a problem. 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: As a plagiarist and the liar of what he what 130 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: he's a law degree, how many degrees he's had. But 131 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: before his brain was the brainka pass was diminished. So 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: you know, where are we at now? And I think 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: that the courts are still can protect us. We have 134 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: the judicial, we have the legislature, we have the executive 135 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: and since the Patriot Act, we really Congress has abdicated 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: their legislative duties to write laws and giving it to 137 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: the president. So you're really talking about an emperor. We 138 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: really need to really discuss. That's what has happened and 139 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: until Congress, and Congress is happy to continue that, both 140 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: the Democrats and Republicans because they don't want to have 141 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: to make laws because then they're just worried about getting reelected. 142 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: So if they make laws, then they can. 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Be called on it. You know who voted for this. Yeah, 144 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: and so. 145 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: But still the system is strong. You know, you still 146 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: have the Supreme Court. That's why it's important that they 147 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: don't end the electoral college. We don't want a pure 148 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: democracy because it's then it becomes a tyranny of the majority. 149 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: So this republic, it's important, ye to keep this republic. 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: And they really did build you know those you know, executive, 151 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: judicial and the legislative. 152 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a pretty dargot system. 153 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Great came up with, and it's worked tremendously well for 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: the most part. Yeah, and and not just abdicated their 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: position as making laws and giving the president the executive 156 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: powers to your point, but also to the to the 157 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: administrative state, the deep state, if you will, right, So, 158 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: then all the three and four letter agencies, the sec, 159 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: the ftc et cetera. 160 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: They're able to make laws. 161 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: But the Supreme Court just nullified that, which is exactly, 162 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: you know, I mean James Lindsay, you. 163 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Know, the intellectual and he's great. 164 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: I hope he I hope he's here this weekend. 165 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: I had to call him so you explain to me 166 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: what's happening? 167 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Is the comedian you know. 168 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And but what it is, it is, it's we 169 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: do have a system that can reign in a certain 170 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: amount of tyranny. A's attempted tarrany. So I think what 171 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: happens with the United States and our vulnerabilities for impinging 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: on freedoms is that the it really is the bureaucrats. 173 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: And you can call it the deep state, or you 174 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: can call it the agencies or whatever, but we have 175 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: an ever expanding spy agency. 176 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: That one thing government for sure. 177 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: We know about government is that they don't want to 178 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: shrink of their own volition, of course not. They want 179 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 3: to just expand, and they want to keep them in 180 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: Congress wants to you know, they they want to keep 181 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: their jobs. So it is a potential for abuse. But 182 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 3: the bureaucrats are the ones that stay. Even if you know, 183 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: You'll notice that even if you know, Trump gets in 184 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: and I hope I'm voting for any I want anybody 185 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: but Biden, I think it's important to throw out administrations, 186 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: to throw them out to keep them. 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: The best administrations are the ones that are flat. 188 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 3: Footed and not confident, so they don't try to do 189 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: too much because they whatever they try to do is 190 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: ends up being damaging, whether it's here domestically or abroad. 191 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: And so, but you're really able to see who's running 192 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: things at this point, and it really is the bureaucracy stays. 193 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: Even though if Trump gets in and it looks like 194 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: he's going to be but the election was tomorrow. They're 195 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: trying to corner legislation in where he can't do anything 196 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: about the funding of the continued funding to Ukraine, which 197 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: they admitted is just taking money from taxpayers and dumping 198 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: it into the farm, into the military industrial complex where 199 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: Congress owns stock. Individual Congressman that has to stop that. 200 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: That is nothing. That is pure third world corruption? 201 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Was it? The early eighteen hundreds, Frederick Bestier wrote a 202 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: book called the Law and then that he called it 203 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: legal plunder. So legally they plunder and steal through those means, 204 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: through the law air that will have to be changed. Yeah, yeah, 205 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: you need to do it. Mark, Well, you and your organism. 206 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: We're trying to get the word out. So back to 207 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: speaking your mind, right, America speaking her mind. I'm just 208 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: curious saying, you know, we asked what's on your mind? 209 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: It seems like to me, and there's so many big 210 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: important issues it's hard to say, but maybe the most 211 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: important issue that we're dealing with right now is the censorship. 212 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: And you talked about the intelligence agencies and the way 213 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: they're colluding with social media, and it's really attacking that 214 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: freedom of speech because you know, if you want to 215 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: take down freedom, to take down freedom of speech. 216 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: So though they're all for the freedom of speech, if 217 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: you agree with them, sure, you know, they're all fully sure, 218 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: say whatever you want. But if you don't, yeah, and 219 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: that's why freedom of speech is I'm surprised that this, 220 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: you know, that the encroachment or freedom of speech isn't 221 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: isn't a bigger issue for people because and in basic understanding, 222 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: I mean, when they took civics out of high schools, 223 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: I was there at the time when they took it out, 224 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: I think it was nineteen eighty and it didn't seem like, 225 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: you know, to say, the dumbing down that they're dumbing 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: down I mean, I really. 227 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: Think they are. 228 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: I think when you don't want to teach your citizenry 229 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: how your government works, you. 230 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: Don't want them to be self reliant. 231 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but back to your question, your question again just 232 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: about censorship. Well, so when you have I mean that 233 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: the core of freedom of speech is to protect speech 234 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: that you don't like. 235 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: That needs to be stated. 236 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: And unfortunately I don't think there's a great understanding of it. 237 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: The speech isn't to protect the speech you like. It's 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: inversely the speech you don't like it. Right, It's a 239 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: speech you hate. It's speech you you find the most 240 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: loathsome you're either and as Noam Shamsky said, you know 241 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: you're either for. 242 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: All of it or for none of it. 243 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: And that's a really that's a crucial issue. And I 244 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: think if you explain it to people like Noam Shampsky 245 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: explained it. You know, Joseph Stalin and Gebels, Joseph Gebels, 246 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: the Hitler's minister of propaganda. You know they were all 247 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: for freedom of speech if you agreed with them, right, 248 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: But that's uh, that's not. 249 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: What freedom speech is. You mean, you really need to 250 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: protect the other side. 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: And and if this is a slippery slope of once 252 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: you start limiting what people can say, then you can 253 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: really pull one over. 254 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: And and the the collusion of the. 255 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: Biden administration with tech companies was something I that is new. 256 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: I mean because well social. 257 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Media is relatively new, but that is a form of uh, 258 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: that's another level of censorship, and it really is lying 259 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 3: to the American people. And I think what happens is 260 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: anytime a government or an institution gets too powerful, whether 261 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: it's the the security state, I think they can leave 262 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: themselves open to to being exposed. And I think I 263 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: think people now realize that there really is something to this. 264 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: Who is go running our government? 265 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you certainly know that now with Biden out, 266 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: and I saw some of the you know, the mainstream 267 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: media pundits are like, well, he has a really good 268 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: team around him, and these people can make the decisions. 269 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: But we didn't vote those people in. So yeah, they're 270 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: they're kind of telling us that part out loud. But 271 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: going back to the censorship piece, like I said, I 272 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: think it's maybe the most important issue out of a 273 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: lot of important ones. But I'm just curious from your 274 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: standpoint coming from Hollywood, being a comedian, you're sort of 275 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: on the edge of what you can't say and things well. 276 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: I think so I think too, just not come out 277 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: of from a place of fear. I mean you have 278 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: to there is you have to do a delicate dance, 279 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's show business. 280 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've just decided that I can't. 281 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: Just sit back and see, you know, a large swath 282 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: of of our society brushed aside and go, well's well, 283 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: that freedom thing isn't important, Anya, So I think it's important. 284 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: To step up. 285 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: And it does cost you. 286 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not inexpensive, but you seem like you have 287 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: been able to avoid cancelation. I mean you're still making movies, right, 288 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean. 289 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: Not as many, but yeah, I mean it's it does 290 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: come at a price. 291 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: I mean, when Oprah Winfrey decided to support Obama, she 292 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: knew that was going to cost her money in her pocketbook. 293 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: It does. When you step out and you know, they 294 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: say you pick a side, it does. However, the side 295 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: I'm picking is America. It's it's it's for both parties. 296 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean, both parties are imperfect, and we have a 297 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: two party system which doesn't seem to be serving the 298 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: I mean the majority of Americans would prefer to not 299 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: have a choice between Biden and Trump. They would prefer 300 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: to have some anything else, you know, But the. 301 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: System saysn't young energy. 302 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: Well, the system's rigged in that sense. I mean they 303 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: you know, Robert Kennedy is not allowed on the debate stage. 304 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: Just say, if this was truly it had the some 305 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: of the you know, if if the media you realize 306 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: the media, and it's it's not like it's a new thing. 307 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: They've been controlled. 308 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I remember in the nineties the media was 309 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: controlled by basically six. 310 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: Or nine companies. 311 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, now what is it for? 312 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: So, I mean you have the CIA has a. 313 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: Backdoor to YouTube and Google. So we really are dealing with. 314 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: And that an actual attack on non freedom of expression 315 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: and and our political system seems like it is rigged 316 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: to uh and you could see somebody because I don't 317 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: think Trump is Donald Trump, our former president, Donald Trump 318 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: is that different than the establishment. But the fact that 319 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: he questions some of it, it makes him this incredible outlier, 320 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: right and a threat to the established order. And they 321 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: hate that because they don't want the system to change 322 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: at all. 323 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you talked about I mean you're obviously speaking 324 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: out at great cost to yourself, but hopefully to save 325 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: America to your point, right, and and and maybe spark 326 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: something to create some change. 327 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: I think so, I think it's uh, I don't think 328 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: it's I don't think it's a great risk, you know. 329 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I think people who put themselves on you know, 330 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: went to Afghanistan certainly are more people who you know 331 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: landed in Normandy. I think, you know, I'm just telling, 332 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: you know, just telling jokes. But if I can encourage 333 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: people like just just it, it will collapse the system 334 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: of of this. They call it social justice, but that's 335 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: just the trojan horse term. What it really is is 336 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 3: it's just a weird power grab. And there are elements 337 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: of this, not elements, but there's specific Uh, it's a 338 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: specific specifically designed to undermine Western civilization. And what it 339 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: really is is it's just another it's just redressed, reworded communism, 340 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: and it is hopeless and it is godless and it 341 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: won't succeed because it doesn't have the basis in things 342 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: that Christianity has a basis and love, tolerance, acceptance, forgiveness, 343 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: good things. Yeah, and there the basis that they have 344 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: is it seems to be anger and revenge and. 345 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: Separation. 346 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and hate, And I. 347 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: Don't think that that's something to build a religion on. 348 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: And this kind of woke religion, I mean it is 349 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: a de facto religion because there's a as my friend 350 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: Peter ragosin Professor B. Pregogiate says, there is an there 351 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: is a religious architecture in there, thinking, yeah, I think 352 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: it pretty well describes it, but it doesn't have the 353 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: same underpinnings of like Christianity. Of that. That's why those 354 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: monasteries have lasted over a thousand years, because they're a 355 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: group together for and. 356 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: They've built, they built beauty. 357 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, today we see ugly, Yeah, we do what there's 358 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: zell the potential for beauty. 359 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: Sure, I hope it comes back. 360 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: Sure so expensive. You're an actor? Yes here Now in politics, 361 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of times I would see 362 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: like actors like fill in the blank. I don't want 363 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: to call anybody out, and it's like how much are 364 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: they how much are they really paying attention? 365 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: Right? 366 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Are they? Just Like like Leonardo DiCaprio, He's like this 367 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: science is settled, this is fact. Science isn't settled. 368 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: There's no science is never settled sciences of all sciences. 369 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: I mean, for it is a series that all sciences 370 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: is simply a series of experiences of experiments to find 371 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: a regularity. Yeah, there's no settling in that, you know. 372 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean the irregularity could alter, could change. 373 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: It's meant to be disproven. It's a theory. 374 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: Well it's it's it's certainly open for the potential to 375 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: be disproven. So I think, though I don't think guys 376 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: like Leonardo DiCaprio are I don't think they are bad intentions. 377 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: I don't think that he's a bad I don't think 378 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: he's a bad actor. Whether you know on the screen 379 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: he's a great actor. But I also don't think he's 380 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: a bad actor, and he's social socially. But I think 381 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: it's misinformed and I think it's misguided, and I think 382 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: the potential for human tragedy is gigantic. I mean, I 383 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 3: would say that the if you just look at at 384 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: what There's a great movie called Planet of the Humans, 385 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: which is a documentary that Michael Moore put his name on. 386 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: He's as liberal as you get, and I really respect 387 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: him for putting his name on that because it really 388 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: debunks this the great energy myth, because it is a myth. 389 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't work. And if you want to throw America, 390 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: you want to throw the world back into abject poverty 391 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: and misery, then take away fossil fuels. 392 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it does. The grain energy doesn't work. 393 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: It just doesn't. 394 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. What I wanted to ask about is we 395 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: seemingly have a lot of musicians and politicians entertainers that 396 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: want to kind of throw their opinions out there. And 397 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: I see a lot of them seem like they haven't 398 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: done the work and they haven't done research, and you 399 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: apparently have them, and you know the dates, the names, 400 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: et cetera. And I'm just curious. You mentioned doctor James 401 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Lindsay before. He's great, and I wish I'll be checking 402 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: him out. 403 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: He's the real intelectual. I'm a de facto intelect comedians 404 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: or de facto intellectuals. 405 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: There was a void that was created, Mark, and you know. 406 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: I didn't. 407 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. 408 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: I didn't want to step into this field. 409 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: It was just something that you you know, I would 410 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: say obvious things and then it was like, because I 411 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: had an opinion, it became. 412 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: You know, news just nuts. 413 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: What happened was you had the real intellectuals with professors 414 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: and writers and other people who philosophers who were scared, 415 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: and then they created this vacuum of an intellectual vacuum 416 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: of ideas and opinions and discussion, because that's what you 417 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: really need. You need discourse, and the discourse has been 418 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: and debate has been replaced with denunciation and shouting down, 419 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: and that's the worst form of debate. So the you know, 420 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: guys like me are here now, you know, you want 421 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: James Lindsay here, Peter Rigs in here. 422 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: You know, he's great. And one thing he talks about 423 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: is that really back to the two party system. When 424 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: you set a big goal and that goal is too big, 425 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: it's like might even bother. So we focus on the 426 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: presidency and the two party system exactly, and that's something 427 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: that we can't really affect. 428 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: And so that is one of you bring that up. 429 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: I'm really happy to hear that, because I think that 430 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: is a great distraction. I think the best way. Barbara 431 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: low Fisher is one of the great people in the 432 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: medical freedom movement, if not one of the key people, 433 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: I mean essentiury from now. People talk about her. She's 434 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: the one at the National Vaccine Information Center. She's the 435 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: one who educated me about these medical freedom issues. I 436 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: didn't even know what this was about. Yeah, fifteen years 437 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 3: ago along with they know, she educated me. And then 438 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: the del Big Tree came along and you really, you 439 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: really touched on something that's really important for your listeners 440 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: and for people to tell your friends and your family 441 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: is to act locally. 442 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: It really is your school board. 443 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: It really is the you know, the board of supervisors, right, 444 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: it's the mayor, it's your your state legislature. 445 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 446 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: If you show up and you make your voice heard, 447 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: it'll make an impact. 448 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: And that's why. 449 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: Like another thing I'm not doing by choice is the 450 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: Moms of Moms for Liberty, Tiffany Justice. These moms got 451 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: together and they're interesting. How they got attacked by the 452 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: media for just being moms trying to get pornography out 453 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: of grammar schools. 454 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, how dare they? 455 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah, it just I mean, if you look 456 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: at it, if you would make a movie bat that, 457 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: they go, Nah, I can't be real, what are you 458 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 3: talking about. But it's people like Tiffany Justice stepping up, 459 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, and people putting themselves out there, people like 460 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: Peter Bragosi and James Lindsay, Professors Brett Weinstein, you know, 461 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: Jordan Peterson. These are the leaders of the true intellectuals 462 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: now who just refuse to be cowd and people are 463 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 3: looking to them, they're looking to me unfortunately. 464 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: And and and I. If you can do anything, it's 465 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: to get involved. 466 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: But you're right, though, Mark, and I hope more people will. 467 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: Talk about that. 468 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: Get involved locally because that has more impact because you know, luckily, 469 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: in our republic it is divided, and it's supposed to be. 470 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: This is you know, the the federal government's not supposed 471 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: to be involved in the states with health specifically, and 472 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: as we saw during the pandemic, you know, there were 473 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: some states that did better than others, and then you know, 474 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: I think they were cowed by a media that was 475 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: cowed and controlled by a gigantic you know, the real 476 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: drug cartel. Forget about the Mexican cartels where you're going 477 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: to be living. The real cartels are pharma. 478 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Sure, they're legal cartels. I mean, it really is. 479 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: I mean that's why it's so, you know, why would 480 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: you want to be in government if you can control government, 481 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: So why wouldn't you want to be in the shadows. 482 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: And then you know we pay The pharmaceutical industry is 483 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: the biggest donors of all all to state congress. And 484 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: that just not federal like you know your senators or 485 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: your congressman, but your state legislatures. I mean that's it's 486 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: it's remarkable and they and you just throw enough money. 487 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean you have like a visor who paid eleven 488 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: billion dollars, the biggest fine in corporate history. 489 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything. 490 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 3: Americans don't really have a sense of history. They don't 491 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: go back and go, well, you know, you're gonna trust 492 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 3: those same people. So I think I think I got 493 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: off sidetracked. But what I'm saying is you're right getting 494 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: act likely, act locally, get involved, show up at your 495 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: city council. 496 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: Because we can make an impact there, absolutely impact. 497 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: On and that'll be the most impactful for you, right 498 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 3: for the citizens in your community. 499 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: Right. 500 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for bringing that up, reminding me. 501 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking, and I want to let's talk 502 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: about today. 503 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: Because we can impact that, We can change that and 504 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: it has the hour of our life. 505 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: And it does directly to yours. I mean, if you 506 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: want to be you want to know what they're teaching 507 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: your schools go to the school board meeting. 508 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: We were talking about comedy Fournia in California. Those people 509 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: like to call comi Fournia. And when they start talking 510 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: about pandemic coming back again about a year. They love 511 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: the control. 512 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: They love I mean Gavener news Gavin Gaviner Newsom loves 513 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 3: being on TV every day. Yeah, you know, he's an ineffectual, 514 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: intellectual lightweight and all you have to do is watch 515 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 3: him discuss, discuss anything with Adam Carolla. Uh, there's five 516 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: minutes where he's just Adam just you know, takes him 517 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: apart because there's because no one really asks him questions 518 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 3: or follow up questions. There's no follow up questions in 519 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: the media, there's no questions on the questions after the questions, right, 520 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: it's just and so they just dance around it. And 521 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: finally somebody got you know, and it was five minutes 522 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 3: and it was just brutal for him. And it was 523 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 3: also illuminating to like how vacuous that his thinking is. Yeah, 524 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: and and uh it's unfortunately that that that is the 525 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: you know, the future leader of the Democratic Party, this 526 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: vacuous airhead who who was unapologetically uh tyrannical. Yeah, and 527 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: and and I think it's being exposed. I mean you 528 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: can just see they can clean up San Francisco in 529 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: twenty four hours. 530 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: If Ying Zangping is coming. 531 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: From China, he admitted it, Yeah he did, and it's 532 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 3: but it doesn't cost him anything there. So what happens 533 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: is I wouldn't say like the Democratic Party is intrinsically 534 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: awful or evil. It's just when they have too much power, 535 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: they feel like they have to do stuff. I mean 536 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: they were discussing taking the uh taking the gas, you know, 537 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: to you know, to the speed limit down to eighty 538 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: like to literally to control the cars. 539 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you couldn't if you want to. 540 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: And it's like the government, get out of my kitchen, 541 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: get out of my kids school, get out. 542 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: Of my get out of my driveway, get out of 543 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: my kitchen. When they're telling you what you can cook with. 544 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: Too big? 545 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, what what lube should I use? 546 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: You know what? Yeah? 547 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: At what point? 548 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: Lunacy? 549 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: And that's what you know, comedy is good for that, 550 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: and that when when a society could openly mock uh 551 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: the you know what, what is the laughable decisions of 552 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: our leaders? I think that's when it will start to collapse. 553 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: And I think we're at that point. 554 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: I hope, and good comedy works when there's some truth 555 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: to it. 556 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: Well, I just I mean I can't. 557 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: I mean, silliness is king, you know, like John Clees 558 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: is my hero. You know, Norm MacDonald is wonderfully silly man. 559 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: But I do think, I do think if there's I 560 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: will say, it's easier this these days to to write 561 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: jokes because it's practically a joking themselves, you know, the 562 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: they write themselves. 563 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nuts. Imagine. I mean I do a bit 564 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: now about. 565 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: Having having a son join the girls track team, and 566 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: the conversation I can do and people they fall out laughing, Yeah, 567 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: because it's ridiculous. 568 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll go wrap this up. I know you 569 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: have a lot more sulf to do. 570 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: But maybe my favorite interview so far. 571 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: You're you're you're on tour right now, unfortunately anywhere near 572 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: southern California. Unfortunately avoid the taxes in California. Yeah, yeah, 573 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: but I love it though. 574 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: California is great and the audiences are great there. 575 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: The books coming out, as we talked about, so we'll 576 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: make sure to get. 577 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: I'll be able in California in twenty twenty five. 578 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: Okay, but maybe just closing thoughts, like you know, you're 579 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: out here trying to kind of spread the word at 580 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: great cost to yourself. 581 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: Will comes out September twenty fourth, You can do it. 582 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: Speak your mind in America. 583 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 584 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: My closing thoughts it's they can't ruin this country completely. 585 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: They can do a lot of damage in the next 586 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: two years because basically, whoever wins, you get two years 587 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: before you become a lame duck. So in that two years, 588 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: if Biden gets back in, he'll do a lot of damage. 589 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: He'll open up the borders again. And you know, I 590 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: want people to come into work. I want I want 591 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: anyone who wants to come in here and work, and 592 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: if you want to come in legally, do it. And 593 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: I think we're going to we're going to peacefully change 594 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: America again. But it's going to take people to step up. 595 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: And I would just say it doesn't take one hundred 596 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: percent of the people, doesn't take fifty I'm gonna say 597 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: it takes fifteen percent. Five percent. Right now we have 598 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: and fifteen percent fifteen percent will will will affect change. Interestingly, 599 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: about a third of the in the in the you 600 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: know American Revolution, the third of the Americans were for it, 601 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: a third were for the Brits, a third. 602 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: Didn't want anything to do with it. 603 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: So roughly the same thing about a third of Americans 604 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: that didn't want anything to do with the vaccine. 605 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: Already have a good base here. Yeah, final question, yes, work. 606 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: I believe that all freedom comes with the ability to 607 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: put on the base of the freedom to transact. And 608 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: we're in the bitcoin room, so bitcoin has gives us 609 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: a technology that we can transact peer to peer. Government 610 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: doesn't like that money, And I'm curious your take on bitcoin. 611 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: Are you a bitcoiner? Do you believe? Yeah, freedom money? 612 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: Bitcoin is an important element in freedom movement. I'm not. 613 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: I don't think it has It's not safe proof, but 614 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: what is you think the America? I used to think, 615 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: like it's too risky, but then you realize what's happening 616 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: with the American dollar. I mean, how can bitcoin be 617 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: more risky than a government that's that's just printing money. 618 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: The quantitative easing that's happening right and monthly. So I 619 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: would say, like I used to say, it's an unsafe 620 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. 621 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: It's unsafe. I would say it's unsafe now to 622 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: Not own bitcoin, perfect nd there mark it's a pleasure.