WEBVTT - Flea 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:22.439 The Quest Left Show is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.720 to the Quest Left Show. I'm your host Quest Love. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.479 As of late on this platform we have shown love 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.960 to the low end, of course, with so many awesome 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.720 bass players, and today is no exception. However, you know 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.599 that we here at this show cannot pass up a 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:45.080 good pivot story and we are pleased to welcome a 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:50.960 newcomer to the game, a trumpet player from Los Angeles 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:57.080 by the way of Melbourne, Australia. His debut album, Hanora 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:02.560 is a journey into the world of instrumental interpretations both 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:09.920 the jazz, pop, rock, soul ilk covering all spectrums of music. Incidentally, 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.600 our newcomer is also a Rock and Roll Hall of 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.560 Fame member, shows you how far as journeys come. We 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:21.440 like to welcome for the first time mister Michael Peter Balzari, 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.440 also professionally known as Flea. That's me, that's your name. Okay, 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:26.480 nice to meet you, Flee. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:27.240 Nice to meet you. 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.840 All right, So what is your morning routine the first 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.120 thirty minutes when you wake up? Do you have a 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:35.920 morning routine? 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:40.920 Oh yeah, very ritualized morning routine, night routine. I'm a 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.120 man of many rituals. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.600 Actually, I'm glad you said that. Yeah, what's the last 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.400 because I'm very strict on on night routines. What does 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.440 the last hour of your day look like when you 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:55.920 know you're going to go to. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.200 Bed I'm winding down. Yeah, I'm pretty strict about it. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.880 First as the the well, whatever music I'm gonna listen 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.920 to you before bed, which is lately he loved Him 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.680 Madly by Miles Davis every night, but always something like that. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.400 It was revel before that, you know, but I picked 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.400 the music, brush, teeth, wash face, you know, a little 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.840 cream or whatever as I get older and trying to 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:24.360 like keep things supple. Yes, and then prayers. I'm a 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.519 praying man, so I pray every morning and every night. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.240 And then I read. I always read before bed. I've 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.520 been you know, since some little boy. I love to read, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.560 so I read every day. And that's pretty much it. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:37.720 What is your morning routine? 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.079 Morning routine is? But once I like I wait, depending 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.280 on if I have to get up or I have 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.320 you know, flexible time. But no matter what the things are, 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.000 I do exercises in bed before I get out of 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.800 bed every morning, like stretched basically stretches and stuff because 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:59.400 my back has gotten damaged before. So I have like 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.160 things to do because it can settle in a weird 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.560 way when you're sleeping and you get up all of 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.440 a sudden, you're like, oh, you know, I'm old. So 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.440 I have like a stretching routine and then you know, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:15.920 ablutions and then prayers and then exercise. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.919 Wait, I gotta, I gotta Yeah, I think I told 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.040 you the story once before. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.280 But oh wait, wait there's one crucial other thing too, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.960 which is a big rule. Is no phone in the bedroom. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.799 No phone in the bedroom, No phone in the. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.480 Bedroom, Like what especially when I wake up in the morning, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.640 Like those are the magic times, Like you're in that 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:37.400 twilight in between sleep and way, that's when good stuff comes. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.400 All right, Yeah, good to know where the same person. Yeah, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.560 I will probably say that you're the first person to 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:52.000 seed plant in me the idea of giving gratitude. I'm 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.040 gonna show you how you guys changed and subsequently save 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.600 the roots without even knowing it. All right, I talked 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.960 about this story in my first book. So this is 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:11.800 two thousand and five. You guys are touring your and 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:17.640 your arena status now soccer stadium status. You know, you're 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.120 familiar with how stadium life is. That basically means you 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.440 guys are playing anyway between. Some places are seventy thousand, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.320 some places are one hundred and twenty thousand, and we 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.680 are opening for you guys. So even for us, we 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:35.120 just arrived at our tipping point of not just being 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.400 an underground band and you know, your band's favorite band 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.719 or your singer's favorite singer, Like, we're actually reaching a 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.320 new level as well. We're doing about a week with 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.280 you guys. So Night one, I watch you guys, and 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.800 you do something interesting. You do this magic circle thing 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.680 where you guys sort of get in the football huddle, right, 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.800 and then you go to play the music. Night two 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.440 you do the same thing. Now the different and says 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.040 I have a set list, and I'm like, and I'm 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:05.960 trying to get out of my comfort zone. Like one 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.039 of someone suggests, what. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.120 Do you mean you have a set list? Like you're 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:08.840 making your set list. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.480 No, no, I'm looking at your set list. I'm standing by 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.359 the mindset list, right. And so the thing is is 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.479 that by this point, various people are trying to talk 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.480 me out of the safety zone. I come from the 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.520 school of Prince where George Clinton wants joke that Prince 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:29.159 is a master at rehearsing his spontaneity. And so, you know, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.400 there's the point where people are like, you guys are musicians, Like, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.400 how come you don't jam more? How come you don't 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.160 you know? I was like hyper sensitive about not becoming 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.160 a jam band because I was like, oh, critics will 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.960 use alive if we're you know. But I was learning 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:45.719 to loosen up and hey, guys, do do another sixteen 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.880 bars or whatever, like something off the grid of just 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.600 not something that we do. Right, So you do this 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.560 magic circle thing and I'm like, oh, they're going to 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:59.440 call an audible another song. And then I'm like, oh, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.599 there's still on the set list. Okay, Night three, you 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.080 do the same thing. I'm like, why do they keep 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:06.839 having these huddles and circles? 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.320 It was before the show though, right, No, during the show, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.120 you would do three songs, all right, see me, I 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.520 have to I segue a song on like a jay. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.599 You would stop a song And then we're talking at 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.920 twenty thousand people, right, I. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.359 Thought you were talking about before the show where we 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.000 like hold hands in the circle. I got you. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.719 No, You're just you're talking about something and I'm like, oh, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.600 they're gonna switch songs or something. And then you go 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.960 back and you still stick to the script. So I 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.880 hit you up and I'm like, Yo, what are y'all 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.560 talking about when y'all in that circle, you know, because 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.440 you're still sticking to the script, so you're not saying like, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.839 let's switch orders or whatever. And you gave me my answer. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.080 So I go on the Roots tour bus. You know, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.159 we're young and dumb whatever, So I get on. I'm like, yo, man, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.919 because I was talking about it, and you know, my 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.080 manager's on there and maybe like two other members of 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.200 the band, and I said, yo, man. I asked a flea, 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.479 like what are those guys doing? And he was like, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.040 you know, he gave me some like hippie dippy shit, like, 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.600 oh man, we just you know, we I had a 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.760 great once this morning, and you know, I went to 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.240 the museum and da da da dah. And then I 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.480 went to Anni. I'm like, what are y'all really talking about? 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.080 He's like, oh man, it's like, you know, we're just 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.880 just kids from La man. We're just like just taking 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:26.440 in the moment. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:27.680 I was like, he's just. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.080 Talking about a hippie, dippy shit man, real dismissive of me, 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.200 and I'm going back to play my my xbox and 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.640 my manager says, yeah, it makes sense. You know, I 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.560 can see it. They actually like each other. I was like, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.200 so I go back to the thing I'm playing and 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.960 I'm like, forty seconds later, pause, I go back to 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.840 the front of the bus. I'm like, what do you 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:54.720 mean they actually like each other. He's like, and it's 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.640 almost about to become the good Fellas. You think I'm 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:02.280 a funny moment. He's like, uh, yeah, they actually fuck 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.320 with each other. They like each other. And I'm like, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.280 as opposed to what? And he looks at me like, 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.200 come on, dog, I'm like, what you're talking about? Because 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.920 in my mind, I'm like, yo, like we were buskers 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.200 on a street corner not even ten years ago, and 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.800 literally day by day like we're here, Like what are 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.000 you talking about? And he's like, well, if you want 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.400 to call it that, yeah, I mean technically, he says, Look, 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.800 my job here is to keep the train running no 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.920 matter what. But what you guys think is your friends, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.600 like you used to be in high school, y'all don't 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.439 even talk with each other. You're the one that has 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.560 a griffin door bust and a slithering bust and y'all 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.200 might show up the sound check, he said, I said, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.520 you say we're phoning it in. He's like, well, you 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.640 guys are still good, but y'all ain't friends, like you're 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.080 just going through the motions. Like He's like, dude, the 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.360 Beatles broke up after seven years like this, this is 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.120 year fourteen for y'all. So y'all lasted twice as long 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.120 as the Beatles, And that really messed with me. Man. 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.920 Once he made me aware of the fact that damn, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.840 like when is the last time me and Tarik just 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.840 like went out to dinner or went to the movies 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.760 like we were like brothers. Yeah, and then when it 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.800 became a business, I think in my head, I said, okay, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:26.320 for the sake of the business, like let's separate and 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.520 just keep the business running and you know, and not 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.199 just figure like most people would have killed each other 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.280 by now. I mean, yeah, because we were also like. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.160 Just in a I get it, man, I get it, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.640 But in a way, it's like, because there's times I've 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.840 wanted to do that when it's become so difficult, you know, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.520 because you grow apart. You have different world views, you 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.240 offend each other, you hurt each other's feelings. You're in 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.400 this no matter what, even if someone's a leader and 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.199 the marching orders. You're clear, you're always making yourself vulnerable 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.040 in the creative communal, creative situation, and you hurt each 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.120 other's feelings, it's easier to keep it organized clean. Look, 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.719 this is what we're gonna do. Let's get it done. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.800 We're professionals. Just do the job. But when we're in 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.160 those little circles, it's not always hippy dippy fun support. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.440 You know what I mean. I love you like sometimes 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.319 I mean oftentimes it's like I can't hear shit, I 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.280 don't know what to do. The monitors all fucked up. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.679 You know, there's that a lot too, Like I just 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.599 can't fucking hear it. You're too loud, you know what 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.320 I mean? Which loud. Sometimes it's complaining, it's all that 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.720 you know, and trying to be respectful of one another. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.400 But sometimes it is just like like this is beautiful, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.160 Like we're doing this right here, right now, and you know, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.240 our band, we've been through all different you know, emotional states, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.360 but like you're talking about you and tyre. Like me 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.360 and Anthony we met when we were fifteen. We're about 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.640 like we're street kids. We're running around like we had nothing. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.800 We're like like, how we're gonna eat, How we gonna 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.959 you know, get anything we you know, I came from 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.720 a very difficult household. There was a lot of violence, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.280 There was a lot of chaos. There was a lot 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.520 of like I'm not it was not like a sanctuary 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.080 home to go into. So I kind of searched for 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.840 my family with my friends. And when I met Anthony, 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.400 I really found that, you know, and there's something no 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.560 matter what, no matter what the professional obligations are, no 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.680 matter when we piss each other off, there's always and 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.760 no matter and we hurt each other too, but there's 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.400 always like brothers, you know, but there's always this striving 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.240 to try to make it right, to try to harmonize it, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.840 to try to get it into a good place. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.720 Have you guys ever had a like a I mean, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.400 right now, we're in the beginning stages of what I 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:43.079 call the some kind of monster Metallica thing. There's a therapist, okay, 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.040 and we're okay. So my feelings were hurt when you 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.000 told me that the bridge wasn't good, And yeah, have 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.960 you guys ever had to have like, no, who's the 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.920 person that will? I think we have to have a 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:55.480 band meeting? 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.520 And yeah, I think we could use it sometimes, but 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.000 I don't know if we could all get on this 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:04.320 same page about it. But there's been many many heart 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:08.280 to hearts, gotcha, like not that long ago, you know, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.760 just cut towards the end of our last tour, like 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.040 there was a blow up that was really difficult for me. Difficult, 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.560 like I was in a fury, you know what I mean, 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:22.760 Like I left in a absolute fury, and it took 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.480 like a week to like let me just settle down, 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.400 try to have some perspective and then go, hey, you know, 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.560 let's let's talk about this. Let's talk about what happened, 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.160 because you know what I mean, like you feel that 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.520 someone was dismissive of you, or you know, you feel 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.440 must understood in a way that touches you to your core, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.560 you know, and you know, but we managed to have 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.600 the talks and to get through it, you know, to 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.120 varying degrees of success too. And professional help probably could 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.040 help because being in a. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.199 Band is is a marriage. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.080 It's a marriage and it's an intense marriage, and you know, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.320 and all of us, you know, and everyone like Chad, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.160 he's pretty mellow, he's the easy one. But me, John 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.760 and Anthony, like we're all, you know, intense people. We 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.000 have our feelings. We're very passionate about what we think, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:09.800 you know, and it doesn't always align. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.800 All right. Even if my version was the idea, it 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:20.640 was enough to scare me enough to literally, i'll say, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.960 four years later, once the Tonight show came. Yeah, we 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.319 somehow morphed into the idea of what my manager was 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.000 talking about on like suddenly I love playing with these guys, 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.360 like we never laughed so many times, and even the 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.679 fact like when you face each other in play, like 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.320 that's such an intimate act that I think it's hard 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.720 for people to like, I see that, and we use 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.400 you guys almost as are the idea of what I 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.880 think I see is our GPS. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.120 So yeah, no, that's I never told you that. I 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.000 really appreciate that. And you know, I think as a 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:05.600 musician and we all know this, it's like you're always 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.400 striving to get to that place beyond thought, like beyond 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.400 calculation and beyond you know what I mean, like getting 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.079 to that place where you're just playing and channeling to gods, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.000 whatever they your gods may be. And like, as you know, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.200 when we're looking at each other and playing, it's like 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.480 always that yearning to get to that place where we're 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:25.440 just like one throbbing thing together, you know, beyond thought, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.880 like just surrendering to the moment. And sometimes we succeed 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.360 and we're really connecting in a beautiful intimate way, and 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:38.120 sometimes you know not, but it's always that trying, you know. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.480 Like I think, like if you idealize, like the things 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.280 that you said that are very kind, thank you, Like 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.880 I'm glad to be of service. But when if you 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.120 idealize them at their best, we're always yearning for that. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.360 You don't always and I think like with any artists, 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:53.440 like you know, you always try. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:15:08.760 And Ma, what is the first concert you ever went to? 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.640 Well, definitely my stepdad, you know, playing, but I don't 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.360 know if that counts like he's playing it. I don't 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.600 count Hotel Wax Station, right, you know, he didn't even 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.160 play like, you know whatever, like jazz gigs, you know, 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.600 little jazz gigs in the middle of nowhere. Pizza place 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.320 on Librea actually played a pizza place Lbrea with Philly 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.920 Joe one time. So it's pretty awesome really. Yeah. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.480 One time I was randomly eating in a damn it's 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.680 a it's a noodle spot in LA and I was like, 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.880 oh my god, that guy looks like James Gatson. Suddenly, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.920 like all these LA cats were like it's like is 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.240 this normal? And then the manager was watching me like yeah, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.120 I wanted to surprise you. Lets you know, I got 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.840 James Gatson and like all these like yeah, my entire 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.920 childhood record collections. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.960 Just like purposely like got in there because yeah, no, no. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:03.440 No, they were like this this spot was crustaceans from 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.760 all places like Crustaceans just happened to have like one 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.600 of the top session musicians as so yeah, on the 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.040 weekends we have a band's player. And I was like, oh, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:13.160 that's really cool. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.320 Yeah Gotson you know Gotsam. Yeah yeah, maybe he's such 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.400 an awesome dude. You know, I've never been a religious man, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.480 but I was talking to him and he invited me 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.360 to come to his church play in the band. And 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:25.920 I was like, he plays in the band. He plays 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.440 in the band church, And I was like, man, this 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.120 is gonna be banging, and I got there and it 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.920 was like James Goatson kind of playing in this kind 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.160 of square band, you know, And I was like, I 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.160 was like, damn, but he got me to. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.000 Church, you know where during the pandemic. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:41.760 Yeah. 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:46.720 Once I figured out that he was much more than 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.600 I knew him strictly as Bill Withers drummer, I didn't 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.720 realize all of his motown work more importantly, like his 0:16:53.880 --> 0:17:00.280 high hat is like I will survive love hanging over 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.800 such a very distinctive sound of his. And I think 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.640 he was doing a session for Beck or something. Someone 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.840 broke in his crib and stole those high hats. It's 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.480 like the most legendary. Like whenever I hear those high hats, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.639 I instantly know that scats and playing drums, which is 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.240 normally I can identify a drummer on their stare drum, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.000 you know. But for me to identify you on the 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.320 quality of your high hat, it's such a travesty. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.760 I want you man, you know, dude. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.600 Well, is there a food you hate it as a 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.520 kid that you love now? 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:41.240 Damn? Not? Really? No, I know what is? I think everything? 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.000 I mean that probably is No, I don't know. I 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.000 was always a good eater. I always just put it down. 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.960 You're forever a teenager to me, like, what is your lifestyle? 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.439 Are you vegan? Are you no? 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.240 I mean you know, I'm pretty strict about stuff. I 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.160 don't eat sugar, I don't eat gluten, I don't eat dairy. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.119 Is that yeah? And I tried to eat organic, clean food. 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.720 Okay, but yeah, I eat animals, gotcha. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:06.120 Yeah. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.040 Did you ever have a recurring nightmare as a kid 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.040 or do you dream about the same thing over and over? 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:13.879 I used to. 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:15.960 It was funny because I did that bed wedding joke 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.159 yesterday I found but it's true, Okay. Yeah, And when 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:21.919 I was a kid, I was thinking about it yesterday 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.560 because I was like, you know, doing that joke, and 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.800 I was like, when I was a kid, I would 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.280 always dream that I was getting up and going to 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.480 the bathroom and I just had something where I just 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.800 didn't wake up, and in my dream, I'm getting up 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.399 and I'm really proud of myself. It's like a great dream. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.160 I'm like, I finally beat this bed wedding thing. I'm 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.119 going to the bathroom. I can do it. And then 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.960 i'd wake up and no, you weren't going to that 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:45.520 you weren't walking down into the bathroom. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.640 Used to do that a lot, like imagine I'm going 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.320 to the bathroom, but never feel that relief of yeah 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.200 and realize right right, yeah that had happened. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.199 But I know I had like nightmares. It was always 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.960 kind of like like it's report card day at school, 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.440 you too, Yeah, yeah, and it's coming and it's bad, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.040 and like I'm gonna have to pay the piper for 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.960 all my misdeeds, which was what often happened. Like there 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:11.680 was a couple of years where I like really tried 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.840 and did good, but mostly I was a disaster. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.760 You know, Well this always occur even after you. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.520 Yeah, yeah, it would just come out with that feeling, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.679 you know what I mean, like oh, you get it, 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.320 and you're just like you know what I mean, like 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.560 hiding it from your parents and stuff that. And I 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.440 haven't had it in a while that I can remember. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:36.199 But flying dreams that really beautiful, like really beautiful but 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.080 also scary. Like I would have this dream where I 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.200 would fly, but it wasn't like Superman like flying up high. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.479 I would just kind of like by power of myself 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.960 kind of float above the ground, levitate up i'd be 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.960 like ten feet up, fifteen feet up, and I still 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.720 do have the dream now I'm thinking of it. I 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.720 have it, and I'm just kind of like I kind 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.680 of get this energy. It's like bigger than me, and 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.400 I'm like floating. But in my dream, I'm always liked 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.320 everybody like I'm up pero, like can you can you see? 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.600 Can y'all see? And but in my dream no one 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.879 ever notices. So it's like but it's like I'm like, 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.399 I'm like, no, I'm finally like really tapping the source. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.440 I'm using this energy. I'm floating, but no one can see. 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.480 I can never get my props, you know what I mean. 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.480 And the dream, and that's it's kind of a weird 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.800 a cross between a dream and like this feeling of 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:20.800 not being seen. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.760 Entree three thousand gave the same answer. Really, the thing 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:29.280 is I when I tell you, okay, so if you 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.520 know about like how the brain works, your brain doesn't 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:37.119 know the difference between reality and a fantasy. So if 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.080 I were to tell you about like a horring car 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.120 crash I had or whatever, like I'm taking you through 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.360 the journey, like your brain wouldn't know. If you watch 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.920 a movie your brain will process a bad guy chasing 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.919 you the same way as if it happened in real life, 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.040 so your body sort of goes through that. And I 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.040 told him because he also said, like, I dream of flying. 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:02.080 And when I finished that interview, I live pretty high 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.560 up in my apartment in New York, and you know, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.640 people always ask like, aren't you free to heights or whatever? 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:15.720 And I cannot dream of flying without the feeling of 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.280 me crashing. Like even though if I were to close 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.040 my eyes right now and say, okay, I'm here, I 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.399