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Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans? Here we are back again

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Speaker 1: for another episode of the Mets Stuff Podcast, episode number

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Speaker 1: forty four, talking about out the San Francisco Giants series,

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Speaker 1: which is just the same thing we've been saying for

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks. It's just not good baseball. The

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Speaker 1: Mets are not in a good space right now, I

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Speaker 1: guess is what I would say. They're playing bad. They've

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Speaker 1: pitched a little bad in this series. Game one wasn't

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Speaker 1: very strong, but the offense still has yet to show up.

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Speaker 1: It has been the problem all year long, and it

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Speaker 1: continues to be the problem as we get deeper into

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Speaker 1: the season. Games are starting to run out here. We

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Speaker 1: are running out of time to make a run at

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Speaker 1: the National League eese, because that's simply the only way

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to make the playoffs is by

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Speaker 1: maybe winning this division, and we are running out of time.

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Speaker 1: to find us. James, how are feeling after this Giants series?

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Speaker 2: Awful? Yeah, terrible, not great. It embarrassed, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Hopeless, I think is the word I'm gonna use again.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of been the theme of these last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's just hopeless.

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Speaker 3: I almost feel bad that I gave a pessimistic view

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Speaker 3: could go four and nine, and boy was I incorrect,

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Speaker 3: because four wins is simply unattainable against these two teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, four wins would have been really nice. We would

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Speaker 1: have taken four wins at this point, we'd be we

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Speaker 1: win four games, Oh my god, that's it's incredible. But no,

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Speaker 1: it's not the case.

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Speaker 2: No, not the case.

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Speaker 3: And it all got started off really just horrifically awfully.

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Speaker 2: In Game one.

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Speaker 3: This was again another moment, as I've been saying this year,

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Speaker 3: ablaze all day with the return of Francisco Lindor playing

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Speaker 3: his first major League Baseball game ever with his best

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Speaker 3: and top of the first inning, Brandon Bel's home run.

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Speaker 1: I mean we should have known that before. I don't

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Speaker 3: And like you said, over and over again, we've warned

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Speaker 1: Fastballs unless you're playing the Mets.

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Speaker 3: But the real issue that played Tyler and McGill this game,

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Speaker 3: But Jesus Christ, that didn't happen. He threw nineteen fastballs

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Speaker 1: He unfortunately also made his second start in a row

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Speaker 3: Especially just because once again, even as Tyler McGill's giving

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows the grown man who goes by Sammy. It's

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Speaker 1: The most exciting thing about our offense this game was

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Speaker 1: Maybe can we make the lines a little bit wider

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Speaker 3: There's actually a prominent member of analytics Twitter, Andrew Perpetua,

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Speaker 1: Well again, I mean, this is the team that had

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Speaker 3: No, Sam Long guy run the lineup. The third time,

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Speaker 3: we still couldn't get them. Some people were like kind

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Speaker 3: Hobby seems to be doing the things that all these

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, But I don't understand how you could hope to

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Speaker 3: Of course, he did hit a gramble the short soup

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Speaker 3: Like just the the law of averages really worked in

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Speaker 2: Of this game? Because they were plenty.

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Speaker 1: What was her name?

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Speaker 2: Kate Feldman?

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Speaker 1: Kate Feldman. First off, Holy fuck, this is so stupid.

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Speaker 1: it bothers me that she gets paid. She gets paid

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Speaker 1: McGill finally turned into a pumpkin hunh, which, like, I

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, that's a reference to I believe Cinderella, like

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Speaker 1: Is that is that a problem?

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Speaker 2: I believe that.

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Speaker 3: Means when something is really grand but it's kind of fake,

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Speaker 3: now it's turned back into a pumpkin. Oh, because I

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Speaker 3: Cinderella got her beautiful gown and her really nice horse

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Speaker 2: Which is how most of the Disney stories wind up

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Speaker 1: We're getting crazy on the topic here.

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Speaker 3: No, but it's been something turns into a pumpkin, like

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Speaker 3: the idea, something turns back into a pumpkin.

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Speaker 2: So that's the idea.

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Speaker 3: Tyler McGill was never good, okay, and all this was

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Speaker 3: a facade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's just an insane statement to begin with,

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Speaker 1: here's the second tweet, which is where I got quote

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Speaker 1: quote tweets as well. Tyler McGill is probably a perfectly

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Speaker 1: fine multi inning reliever, and the Mets are acting like

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Speaker 1: he's literally Jacob de Gram and are then going to

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Speaker 1: have no idea why they don't make the season the postseason.

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Speaker 1: So first off, just a really long sentence. I hated it.

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Speaker 1: It was so long. That was one sentence. Use some punctuation,

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Speaker 1: Kate Feldman, I'm gonna pit in it. Pick you for

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Speaker 1: everything here. Two, No one's comparing Tyler McGill to Jacob

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Speaker 1: de Gram, who on God's Green Earth says that Tyler

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Speaker 1: McGill is the next Jacob de Gram.

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Speaker 2: Nobody I think people did those first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Is like half of a joke because of all that

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Speaker 3: stuff about the age and like the erra's your first

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Speaker 3: to Tyler McGill to Jacob the Grom with any point

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Speaker 1: And then to say Tyler McGill is the reason the

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Speaker 1: Mets aren't making the postseason. Why is it on his shoulders?

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Speaker 1: Why is it on the guy who never pitched above

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Speaker 1: double A before this year Tyler McGill's performance, he's they're

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Speaker 1: pitching him as a starter. The Mets don't make the

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Speaker 1: postseason because of that. No, the Mets aren't making the

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Speaker 1: postseason because this team refuses to hit and change their

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Speaker 1: hitting approach. Tyler McGill has kept our team in it.

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Speaker 1: If anything, I don't understand where this take comes in

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Speaker 1: that Like he's a perfectly fine multienning reliever, like he's

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Speaker 1: shown he is going to be a very capable starter

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Speaker 1: at the major league level.

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Speaker 3: Never threw a pitch above single A this season. But

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Speaker 3: if we had to rank Mets players on their roster

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Speaker 3: this season, Tyler McGill's easily in the top five.

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Speaker 2: Easily.

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Speaker 1: He has been so key for this team when we

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Speaker 1: haven't had carrasco in Cindergard as quickly as we wanted,

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: So it's to defend Filman and played Devil's advocate for

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Speaker 3: a second, not to fan k Filman, but defend one

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Speaker 3: of the bad takes within her tweet, like that was

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Speaker 3: blind squirrel being right twice a day. She just kind

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Speaker 3: of walked into something that possibly could be true inside

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like McGill's probably just gonna end up

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Speaker 1: I should say, my bad not back end reliever. It's

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Speaker 1: a Freudian slip, yea Freudian slip. But anyway, this entire

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Speaker 1: come out even more in Game two. So let's move

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Speaker 1: on to that because I don't think there's much else

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised we even got ten ins out of Game one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we shouldn't have. But that's what we do.

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Speaker 1: We always talk about every game for ten minutes somehow,

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Speaker 1: whether we want to or not. Game two, No, Francisco

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Speaker 1: Lindor sucks, but it makes sense coming off of the

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Speaker 1: I understand it. I don't kill the Mets for not

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Speaker 3: And I think a big revolution that's been happening in

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Speaker 3: Sarah's talked about this in the last episode of Rates

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Speaker 3: and Barrels. But a big key this season, especially he's

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Speaker 3: just based on the I don't know who the word

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Speaker 2: They got crushed.

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Speaker 3: Everyone on Twitter flipped the shit on the Mets and

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Speaker 3: he plays like shit, which did wind up happening, everyone

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Speaker 3: looks bad. Yeah he doesn't play, people say shit, So

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Speaker 1: The combination of disgruntled Mets fans plus the fact that

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Speaker 1: that's it, It's time is now. We've wasted too much already.

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Speaker 1: Basically I don't know what the exact quote was, but

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Speaker 1: Here's Rojas again, Which it's incredible to me that it

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Speaker 3: People are also blaming Francisco Indoor for this, and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, this guy's not built for New York. Why

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Speaker 3: Them, Like everyone just calmed fucked out. Every single person

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Speaker 1: Yep. And the hot takes would keep on coming as

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Speaker 1: this game gets going, because you know, the Mets to

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Speaker 1: this this cool thing that they've been doing all year,

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Speaker 2: Yep, and one of them was unearned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got gifted, gifted the run.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got a lot of gifts in this game.

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Speaker 3: The Mets had base runners and eighth of nine innings

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Speaker 1: We turned into the New York Yankees, a little bit

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Speaker 3: The Man New York Yankees before they became one of

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Speaker 3: the better teams in baseball again now with an eleven

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Speaker 1: Games back in the division. Nah, I was.

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Speaker 3: In the ballpark for this game, and this was by

439
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Speaker 3: far the most ornery the Mets faithful has been all year.

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Speaker 2: And to this point in the.

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Speaker 3: Game, there was no more ordinary moment than haave bai

442
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Speaker 3: as is. I'll call the mental lapse in the second

443
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Speaker 3: inning the brain fart, just to put it nicely, where

444
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Speaker 3: he got an infield single to start an inning. Michael

445
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Speaker 3: Confour though I believe drew a walk. No, it wasn't

446
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Speaker 3: making for the next Someone might have gotten hit after him.

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Speaker 1: I think it was dumb.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I just someone got on after Hobby Byes was

449
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Speaker 3: first and second obody at Jonathan VR had to play,

450
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Speaker 3: and he smoked the ball in center field. While the

451
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Speaker 3: ball was smoked, it was very clearly hanging up in

452
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Speaker 3: the air, and the Giants, who were positioned perfectly every

453
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Speaker 3: single time they step on the field were of course

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Speaker 3: going to catch it. And how by as like a

455
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Speaker 3: bolt of lightning takes off from second to rounds third,

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Speaker 3: and you got the people in the crist what are

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Speaker 3: you doing?

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Speaker 2: Where's he going? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: And not only was there not one out this ending,

460
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Speaker 3: but there were zero outs. I don't understand if Hovey

461
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Speaker 3: bias thought that ball was dropping, which would have been

462
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Speaker 3: woefully incorrect, or just have no idea how many outs

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Speaker 3: there were, which would have been completely embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't good, I will say on TV it

465
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Speaker 1: appeared like it looked like it was gonna drop. It

466
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Speaker 1: looked like a sinking line drive that just kind of

467
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Speaker 1: hung up. Also, Mikey Schremsky did get a fantastic jump

468
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Speaker 1: on it because he plays a great center field, so

469
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Speaker 1: a little bit of that too. But yeah, there's really

470
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Speaker 1: no excuse. You have to be halfway if you're gonna

471
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Speaker 1: be that aggressive, even then on a line drive like that,

472
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Speaker 1: like you shouldn't be busting it for third trying to score.

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Speaker 1: But I think probably in Hobby bias that if he

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Speaker 1: didn't forget how many outs there were, he's like, this

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Speaker 1: might drop. I need to score because how the fuck

476
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Speaker 1: else are we gonna score because we're the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Which is just the wrong way think about it.

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Speaker 3: Because there were no outs, so you could just be

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Speaker 3: on their base with no outs, which again the basis

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Speaker 3: load of no outs. It is probably the worst case

481
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Speaker 3: scenario for the Mets offense.

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Speaker 1: But gonna walk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we almost did that to win this game,

484
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Speaker 3: but like, fuck, he just murdered a rally, Like we

485
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Speaker 3: could have just had first and second one out and

486
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Speaker 3: you're still like in the game, and at that point

487
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Speaker 3: we were tied to zero. It was the second inning. Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know where this wicked aggression was this early

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Speaker 3: in the game. I thought that he was gonna get yanked.

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Speaker 3: If I'm being perfectly honest.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see a yanking coming, especially because like,

492
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Speaker 1: who are they gonna put in there, Lindor Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I think he was sitting for a reason. That was

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Speaker 1: early in the game too. No way yank Hobby. And

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Speaker 1: what was what the second third inning to put Lindora

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Speaker 1: in all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: It was the second inning, yeah, of course though this

498
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Speaker 3: was the first of five double plays in this game,

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Speaker 3: and Hobby did his job to hit into one two

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Speaker 3: winnings later when he hit a bullet down the line.

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Speaker 2: This was after the Michael could for the walk, and.

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Speaker 3: He was just absolutely napping at first base, like fifteen

503
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Speaker 3: feet off the.

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Speaker 2: Bag in a situation where there's.

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Speaker 3: No way he should have been fifteen feet off the

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Speaker 3: bag with a man on first, nobody on the second

507
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Speaker 3: likely being held on like there was just so many

508
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Speaker 3: things that were happening early in this game that seemed

509
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Speaker 3: so awful and like the Met's body language just like

510
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Speaker 3: matched it.

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Speaker 1: We had Gary, Ron and Keith in the booth for

512
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Speaker 1: this game, and all three of them constantly were saying, like,

513
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Speaker 1: this is the weirdest like baseball game we've watched in

514
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Speaker 1: a very long time. It was so bizarre with the

515
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Speaker 1: double plays and the Giants were making errors and Jonathan

516
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: VR booted a ball, which will probably lead us into

517
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Speaker 1: our Taiwan Walker talk here. It was all over the

518
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Speaker 1: place of this game. It was again performance art, because somehow,

519
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 1: despite every opportunity here, the Mets found a way to

520
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Speaker 1: lose this one.

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Speaker 3: It was even like it was so hot, humid, like

522
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Speaker 3: at nine o'clock at night, it was just one of

523
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Speaker 3: those awful New York City nights that you're just that

524
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Speaker 3: city fields sweating and you just can't even believe what

525
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Speaker 3: you're watching. Like you just mentioned this should lead into

526
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Speaker 3: our Taywon Walker talk, because we need to mention Taiwan Walker,

527
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Speaker 3: a guy that we called out over the last six

528
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Speaker 3: weeks or so, has rebounded over his last month and

529
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Speaker 3: returned to being a pitcher that we trust. He threw

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Speaker 3: one very bad pitch in this game that went like

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Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty feet into left center from Chris Bryan,

532
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Speaker 3: a fastball down the deck. Ticker cap that happens. He

533
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Speaker 3: just annihilated that baseball and the Giants basically hitless. Otherwise,

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Speaker 3: very impressive from Taiwan, and even more interesting because I

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Speaker 3: didn't even feel like the entire game he had his

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Speaker 3: best stuff.

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Speaker 2: He went four seemed heavy again.

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Speaker 3: He threw thirty eight of them, could for about fifty

539
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Speaker 3: percent of his pitches in the game. First just eight

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Speaker 3: two seemers. So that's a complete change that has now

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Speaker 3: happened in Taiwan. There's no more two seam fastballs happening.

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Speaker 3: And while he was keeping the Giants off the board

543
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Speaker 3: and they weren't getting any hits, he just wasn't missing

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Speaker 3: any bats. He only had seven whiffs on twenty nine

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Speaker 3: swings and just three strikeouts. And again but there was

546
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Speaker 3: only five hard hit balls, So he was doing something

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Speaker 3: right and keeping the Giants off balance and was commanding well.

548
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Speaker 3: But there was like a lot of warning track power

549
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Speaker 3: displayed by the Giants in the first seven innings of

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Speaker 3: this game, and while he was like seemingly in control,

551
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Speaker 3: it did seem like at any moment something was going

552
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Speaker 3: to go wrong. And then to top of the seventh ending,

553
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Speaker 3: Jonathan vr boots a ground ball and then there's a

554
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Speaker 3: blooper that falls in between Jeff McNeil, who was in

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Speaker 3: legiti no man's land. Yeah, it was like MLB the

556
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Speaker 3: show when your controller gets sucked up and you like

557
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Speaker 3: start drifting to one side instead of running to the

558
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Speaker 3: place you have to go. That was exactly what happened

559
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: because he was for some reason like ten feet right

560
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Speaker 3: of the ball, look before the dove didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: And then a decision.

562
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Speaker 1: Was made, yes, and that decision was to pull Taiwan

563
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Speaker 1: Walker out of the game with basically two hits on

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Speaker 1: the board and seventy six pitches. Now, Met Twitter would

565
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Speaker 1: like to tell you that Taywan Walker was pitching the

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Speaker 1: game of the year because he got pulled, And why

567
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: don't agree with him being pulled? The process I think

568
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: was right, and I think that's what a lot of

569
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: MET fans aren't listening to, aren't thinking about. It got

570
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Speaker 1: crazy because Gary was upset, Ron was upset Ron obviously

571
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Speaker 1: starting pitcher. He was like, I would be losing my mind.

572
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: Taiwan showed a little bit of emotion as well on

573
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Speaker 1: the mound, which Gary Roni Keith did not like. But

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Speaker 1: they also understood that you're competing and you're pitching well,

575
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Speaker 1: and you want to be out there, especially when your

576
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Speaker 1: team's not picking you up right now, You're trying to

577
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Speaker 1: do anything you can. They didn't like showing up. Brojas,

578
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Speaker 1: that being said, was pulled for Aaron Loop to face

579
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Speaker 1: Brandon Crawford, Brandon.

580
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Speaker 2: Bell Crawford, Denie Streemsky, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Crawford, Ustremsky. Then there was a right handed hitter and

582
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Speaker 1: then another left He was a Dickerson.

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Speaker 3: Dickerson had already hit. I believe he hit the ball

584
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: VR because there was.

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Speaker 1: Three of the next four batters were lefties.

586
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Speaker 2: That's all I know, and Kirkus was in the middle.

587
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go, and they brought in Loop

588
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: and this drew a lot of second guessing, a lot

589
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Speaker 1: of questioning on Luis Rojas's part. We like to say

590
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Speaker 1: he doesn't make the lineup. He does make the pitching

591
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: decisions here, but I think he's getting killed for this

592
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: and getting blamed for the Mets losing this game, even

593
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: though that's just absolutely foolish to say. While Loup came

594
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Speaker 1: in and did give up a hit immediately to Brandon.

595
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Speaker 2: Crawford, I believe it was the first pitch, first.

596
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: Pitch, first extra base hit to a left handed batter

597
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: all season. He has worse lefty splits Brandon Crawford, especially

598
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Speaker 1: against facing a lefty the first time. Taiwan Walker, when

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00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: he sees the left hand batter the third time, has

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00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: a pretty high ops. So on paper, this move made sense.

601
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Speaker 1: Watching the game, maybe he felt a little bit differently.

602
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Speaker 1: I know you texted me and you're like, I don't

603
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: like this, and I didn't like it either, But I

604
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Speaker 1: feel like I can understand why this move was made.

605
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Speaker 2: This isn't why we lost the game one hundred percent.

606
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Speaker 3: And this just goes back to the fact that every

607
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Speaker 3: single Mets fans hindsight is twenty twenty. Because there's a

608
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: universe where Taywa Walker argues with Luis Rojas and he

609
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: says fuck it and he leaves him in the game,

610
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 3: and Brandon Crawford also just gets a hit off him

611
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Speaker 3: that people like Rojas has to trust his gut I

612
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: can't believe he didn't bring in the lefty to face

613
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: the lefties.

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Speaker 1: Matt Harvey twenty fifteen World Series.

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Speaker 2: Those crops are fake.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I just I had to get that out because

617
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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people who are calling

618
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Speaker 1: for Terry Collins to come back because he never made

619
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Speaker 1: a mistake.

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Speaker 3: But the other part of this that's ironic is just

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Speaker 3: a couple one hundred miles away in Philadelphia, a team

622
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Speaker 3: that we're chasing right now, Joe Girardi twice in the

623
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Speaker 3: last five days has left a starther in past the

624
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Speaker 3: eighth inning and watch them blow the game between Aaron

625
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Speaker 3: Nole and Zach Wheeler. And of course Joe Girardi is

626
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: painfully where that he has one of the worst bullpens

627
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Speaker 3: in baseball, so bad that they had to take their

628
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: only good reliever make him miss star there shout out

629
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Speaker 3: my guy, Ranger Suarez. But like, that's just the other

630
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: side of this coin, and I just can't even In

631
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Speaker 3: absolute foremant art fashion. Last night, Jase Tangler sends Blake

632
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: Snow out for the eighth inning against the Dodgers, and

633
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: he gives up a big home run to Will Smith.

634
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 3: Like is anything more poetic than that. Like nothing.

635
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Speaker 1: No. People were blaming analytics on this one, which I

636
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Speaker 1: think is just so silly because one like this really

637
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: isn't even an analytical move. This is like the right

638
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: move to make. Brendan Crawford is having arguably an MVP

639
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: season if it isn't for Fernando Tatist Junior and some

640
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: of the other players in the National League like Freddie Freeman,

641
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Speaker 1: Harper Soto, Brandan Crawford's going off this year. He's playing

642
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: incredible and while Taiwan handled him pretty well the first

643
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: two times, Loop is our guy. Lupa has been our

644
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Speaker 1: best reliever all year. To think that we don't have

645
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Speaker 1: the advantage Aaron Loop against Brandon Crawford as opposed to

646
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Speaker 1: Taiwan against Brandon Crawford with what no outs I think

647
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Speaker 1: there were in the inning as well, and first and second,

648
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Speaker 1: that's a tough jam to get out of. Regardless, we

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Speaker 1: would have liked to have gotten out of it with

650
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Speaker 1: only one run and end up being two, but don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the decision, but I don't hate it either.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, listen, these are the moves that are

653
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: gonna work sometimes and not work other times, whatever Luis

654
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Speaker 1: Rojas did there, people would have hated it. I promise that.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And I think that if Taiwan Walker

656
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: was pitching a better game, there would have been more

657
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: of a chance for him staying in, because he did

658
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: have less than Navy pitches and it was the seventh

659
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: inning and he'd only given up one like true hit

660
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: to that point, besides that stupid blue that could have

661
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: been caught if things were different. And what I mean

662
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: by that is that if he was like striking out

663
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: the world, like that game that we were at against

664
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: the Cubs where he has like ten strikeers and seven

665
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: innings and no one can touch him, and his slider's

666
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: getting with and his splitter's getting with and he's ditting

667
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: up his fastball wherever he wants, then yeah, I was

668
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: have faith in it. But the Giants ringing the bat

669
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: in the ball all night, and this was just kind

670
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: of some negative aggression for Taiwan's good luck in the

671
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 3: first six innings coming back to buy.

672
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 2: Him in the as and the seventh.

673
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: So I really don't know how you can be watching

674
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: this game and think it's like the most egregious decision

675
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: in baseball history to have taken Taiwan Walker out.

676
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's because this just brings up the entire analytics

677
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: for traditional eye tests baseball debate, which of course is

678
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: all the hottest one that there is. And just to

679
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: go back to what you said about Taiwan, he pitched well, yes,

680
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: but he wasn't dominant the start against the Cubs. He

681
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: was dominant. You leave in dominating pitchers guys who were

682
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: pitching well, especially where it's like he's pitching a good game.

683
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're really really starting to second guess.

684
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: I think Ron or Keith or Gary, I don't remember.

685
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: One of the three guys up there made a really

686
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: good point that they thought that if the Mets had

687
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: not been playing so terribly and needing a win so badly,

688
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: that Taiwan probably stays in that game. If the Mets

689
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: are still in first by a couple games, Taiwan probably

690
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: stays in. But because the Mets were in need of

691
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: a win so badly, and the fact that they had

692
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: the Giants on their heels a little bit here, even

693
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: though the Giants had were rallying, Luis Rohaus was looking

694
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: to make the perfect decision, which I don't mind making

695
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: the perfect decision. Why wouldn't we want to make the

696
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: perfect decision.

697
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 3: The perfect decision sounds like a great decision to make.

698
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: I would love every decision in my life was the

699
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: perfect decision.

700
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: Like, I think that's what we should be looking for.

701
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: I think that's why teams like the Giants and the

702
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: Rays are able to get more out of these guys,

703
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: because they put them in the perfect scenarios to succeed.

704
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that Brandon Crawford is scorching Earth this

705
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: year and has become a fantastic hitter in his thirty

706
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: six year old season out of nowhere. I mean, Aaron Loop,

707
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna get mad at him. They started firing Rojas chants.

708
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, I think Rojas is probably gonna

709
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: get canned now. It just feels like it's inevitable. I

710
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: don't agree with it, especially because he's had basically a

711
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: season and you haven't even given it him a shot. Really,

712
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: but my god, we're gonna blame We have the gall

713
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: to blame this game on Rojas's decision when the offense

714
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: had ten fucking hits and scored two runs. Two runs.

715
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: I have a pretty hot take coming out of this

716
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: game that this wasn't even close to the worst decision

717
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: that Luis Rojas made. Oh yeah, I don't think that

718
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: many people even remember because of how heck tick the

719
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: last th raans this game got. But in the fifth inning,

720
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: the Mets had Johnny Quado on the ropes, pitching in

721
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: his first game off the il in almost a month.

722
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: Janavir drew a walk and Taiwan got a two out

723
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: single which pickups for to and walk for two left

724
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: handed knocks in this game, this little lefty swing one

725
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: of the ninety eight miles an hour off the bat.

726
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: That's fucking incredible.

727
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: Shit.

728
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: Michael vi fourth though, should learn a thing or two there.

729
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: And then Brandon Demo draws a walk to.

730
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Load the bases for Pete.

731
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: Pete hits a pretty lazy ground ball and there's like

732
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: kind of dogging it and Chris Bryant just mails one,

733
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: which is wow, holy shit, the Mets actually tied this game.

734
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: They score the run and we have a shot here,

735
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: So now the bass is loaded two OUs Jeff McNeil

736
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: coming to the plate. The Giants opted for the lefty

737
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: Jose Alpharez, and I was screaming at the top of

738
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: my lungs that JD. Davis should have been sent up

739
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: as a pinch either, especially or possibly Francisco Lindor. And

740
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: I thought at this time maybe Lindor was on the

741
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: bench because he was getting a night off. But he

742
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: came in this game two winnings later and stayed in

743
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 3: for a second at bat and played the field, so

744
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: I don't really think it would have been that crazy

745
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: of a thing to bring him in the fifth, or

746
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: at least give JD this at bat against the lefty

747
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: with the bases loaded with a chance to give your

748
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: team the lead, Especially the way Jeff McNeil struggled, especially

749
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: the way he has not been able to hit left

750
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: hand to pitching this season, especially the way he has

751
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: not been able to really rain in his emotions in

752
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: big spots like this.

753
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: I thought that was a chess move to make.

754
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: That is, with a team like the Dodgers or the

755
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: Giants or the Rays would do in a situation like

756
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 3: such with a chance where you can dramatically increase your

757
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: win probability with one swing in the bat, And that

758
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: was where I think Luis Rojas needed to make a

759
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: better move.

760
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: Giants gave us a gift when they put in that

761
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: left handed pitcher. It's not a guarantee that JD comes

762
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: up to the plate and does anything better than McNeil.

763
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: But again, going back to what I just said and

764
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: we've been talking about with these giants and raised teams,

765
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: you put your team, you put your players in the

766
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: best chance to succeed. Jeff McNeil's chances to get a

767
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: hit off of Alvarez are far worse than JD. Davis's

768
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: chances to get a hit off of Alvarez, the left

769
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: handed reliever. That one, if there is a big decision,

770
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: I feel like to question, that might really be the one,

771
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: because they had a chance to really break that game open.

772
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: Definitely, especially because Jeff McNeil came out of this game

773
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: two innings later. Yeah, Like, if this was something that

774
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: was even on your radar at all, why wouldn't it

775
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: just happened? Like I just can't seem to wrap my

776
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: mind around the fact that this wasn't even a consideration.

777
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: And it was crazy because as this pitching change was happening, JD.

778
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: Davis was stirring in the dugout. I saw him take

779
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: things out of his pockets and then he like went

780
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: from the rail and back and then he didn't. He

781
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: didn't show up again until midway through the bat, so

782
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: it seemed like maybe it was a consideration. Again, this

783
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: is just all my view from like the four hundreds

784
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: level into the dugout. But I just think this was

785
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: such a slam dunk move and the move that the

786
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: best teams in baseball make.

787
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think that's definitely a bigger issue

788
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: than the Walker one. People are gonna care about the

789
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Walker one more because it's easier to talk about, it's

790
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: easier to explain, it's easier to be you know, the

791
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterback Hindsight's twenty twenty because you say left

792
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker and there's no shot, there's there's a chance

793
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker gives up a three run home run there

794
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: to Brandon Crawford. It's just it's how it could go.

795
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: It was a good shot, and I honestly tip my

796
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: captain Aaron Loop to getting out of that inning just

797
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: giving up the one run because he had now at

798
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: that point, well two runs, two runs correct, two runs, Yeah,

799
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: the two run double, he the man second, nobody out

800
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 3: and a bunch of Righty's coming up and he'd be

801
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: bared down. He got he made some plays. They tried

802
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: to catch him sleeping. Austin Slayer tried to take third

803
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: and someone actually got loose attention. We got him out,

804
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: which was that was good heads up played by the defense.

805
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: You like that we're playing there, But all the air

806
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: was led out after this and we just didn't really

807
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: have a shot afterwards.

808
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: They add into the night. We saw Tyler Rodgers come up.

809
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: And while Tyler Rodgers had a good year, there's no

810
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: reason to not hit Tyler Rodgers. There really isn't.

811
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: It's not not hitting Tyler Rodgers. It's appearing that you're

812
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: completely unaware that Tyler Rodgers exists. The Mets face Tyler

813
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: Rodgers a week ago. You should have video of Tyler

814
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: Rodgers all over your scathing reports, because you know you're

815
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 3: gonna face him another three game series and you just

816
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: saw him. He throws the slowest pitches in baseball. He

817
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: is a submariner. Like, how are we not studying up

818
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: on Tyler Rodgers. The Mets three bad There's that inning

819
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: just seems woefully unprepared. They were swinging out of their

820
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: shoes at seventy two mile an hour curveballs in eighty

821
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: three mile an hour fastballs. This was the only inning

822
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: of the Mets game that they did not have a

823
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: base runner.

824
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: It's like when we face Saesar Valdez or the Orioles,

825
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: except this guy just throw a submarine.

826
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we won the game against Aesar Valdez.

827
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did not win the game against the Giants here.

828
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Like you said, we did not get a base runner

829
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: this inning against him. That really stunk. And then the

830
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: ninth was exciting ish also, like, God, damn it, Mets,

831
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: fuck you stop getting me into these games when you're

832
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: just gonna let me down. There's been too much of

833
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: that this year, and it happened again in the ninth.

834
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: We were given gifts from the baseball gods. They said, here,

835
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: we've tried to give you everything. We'll give you two more.

836
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Here's two errors for you. Brandon Belt dropping the pop up,

837
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: which was wild. I've never seen Brandon bel do that.

838
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: I don't think that's anywhere near as wild to the

839
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: dropped cant of corn.

840
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, that's even crazier.

841
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of the craziest players I've ever

842
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: seen live in the baseball game.

843
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because this also almost happened in Game

844
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: one between I think Dickerson and Yustremsky. Now eu Stremsky

845
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: wasn't in center. I think they had Slater in this

846
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: time because of the pitching matchup, but they collided in

847
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: the outfield basically went after the same ball. Klank drops.

848
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: Mets are still alive. We got another chance, even though

849
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: the game should have been dead and over with.

850
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: And Francisco Lindor coming up, Shu felt kind of like,

851
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, it felt kind of like poetic for

852
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: a moment there. It's like they're time I've used It

853
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: weren't this episode, but something felt like it was in

854
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: the air, and he just popped up on the first pitch,

855
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: popped it right up. And that is on the heels

856
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: of probably the worst at bat he's had all season

857
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: against Tyler Rogers in the seventh where he's he looked

858
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: at the fastball and then he swung at two pitches

859
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: that were throwing fifty seven feet and it just seems

860
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: like abundantly clear that he might not be ready.

861
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was so painful to watch that.

862
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: And then of course we got Pete coming up as well,

863
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: popping up with the bases loaded to end it.

864
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 3: Nembo worked a great that bat in between yehro walk

865
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: and a couple of nice foul balls. Wasn't like passive

866
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: Nemo drawing walk to.

867
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: A couple of nice fowl balls.

868
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: And we had a lot of great foul balls this game.

869
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: That's had some amazing foul balls all night.

870
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: But Pete let us down a little bit here. But

871
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: he had a good at bat, but like also that

872
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: bad but also like not really in the fact that

873
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: like these pitches were like down the middle, and he

874
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: kept fouling them, all fouling him off. It looked like

875
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: Pete was trying to work a walk. It didn't feel

876
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: like Pete was trying to get a hit there.

877
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't like to hear that.

878
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: Hitable pitches, very very hittable. You want to talk about

879
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: heart of the plate, not tyal rogers. Jake McGee was

880
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: throwing them in the heart of the plate, and all

881
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: he he was throwing was fastballs, and Pete seemingly was

882
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: just like, I'm gonna keep fouling him and keep folling

883
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: him and keep found Jake McGee only throws fastballs, that's

884
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: his thing.

885
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: He did drop the change up to actually get Pete

886
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: to hit the ground ball, which knew was gonna happen,

887
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: so she just thre him five straight fastballs and like

888
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: did Jake McGee throws eighty percent of his pitches ninety

889
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: three miles on their fastballs. He will like usually put

890
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: them on the edges, but it's not ninety three miles

891
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: in their fastballs every single pitch.

892
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: Like at some point someone has to get around on one.

893
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: And we didn't that entire in it.

894
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we didn't. We just we just stunk. We

895
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: went ten hits, two runs, five double plays, a questionable

896
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: pitching change, a questionable hitting decision with pinch hitting, bad baseball,

897
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: bad baseball around by the Mets. And that's kind of

898
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: just been the theme of the last two weeks and

899
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: this series again just bad baseball. Ugh, I just I'm

900
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: so not excited listening to all the takes that we've

901
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: been hearing about Rojas and anti analytics and stuff. When

902
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: you when you literally are losing a series to a

903
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: team that has fully embraced analytics, Like, how can you

904
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: be so fucking thick in the head to say analytics

905
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: is what lost this game? And then see the team

906
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: that we're playing and say that is even crazier.

907
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: Analytics lost this game.

908
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 3: The Mets just need hitters like La mont Wayne, real

909
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: baseball players like that. That's how you metsa gonna end

910
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: up winning.

911
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, of course, brain dead behavior, Michael CONFORDO, Jeff McNeil,

912
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: Guy Francisco Indoor not getting hits. It's because of analytics.

913
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with them struggling this year

914
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: mightily annoying. Whatever lead us into Game three. And Game

915
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: three was miserable because yeah, that's Mets baseball against the

916
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: Giants and Dodgers. It's miserable. It's awful, and my god,

917
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: do we suck.

918
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: This team is dead.

919
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: I hate to be that guy I've been. I've been

920
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: doing it the last few episodes. But oh this game

921
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: so so winnable again, and the Mets just they got nothing.

922
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: They got nothing at the top of the order tried,

923
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: but that's about it.

924
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: I have to ask you what the fuck is going

925
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: on with these first shitting home runs. I know Carrasco

926
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: has done it literally every single start this year, but

927
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 3: it's so hard to win a game when you can't score,

928
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: you have no life and your bullpen is due to

929
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 3: give up runs when you give up a home run

930
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: within the first three batters of the game.

931
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with Carrasco, it seems like the first

932
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: inning for him is very much like feeling it out,

933
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: and he changes his repertoire. It feels like after the

934
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: first inning, so much so that Gary and Ron even

935
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: made note of it. They're like, Carrasco's completely changed how

936
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: he's pitched and approached hitters after the first sinning. So

937
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: maybe it's he's throwing too many fastballs. Maybe he's just telegraphing,

938
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: like here's what I'm gonna do. It's very like straightforward.

939
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he does the same thing every time in the

940
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: first inning, and a team like the Giants and the

941
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: Dodgers are just gonna jump on it because they know it.

942
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. The other weird thing with

943
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: it is he pitched really well after that. He had

944
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: a fantastic start, easily his best start of the year,

945
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: which is so hard to say after you see a

946
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: first inning to run home run like that.

947
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned that Gary keithan Ron talked about that,

948
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: because I've been talking about that for the last few episodes.

949
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: When Breaking Down Carrasco starts, and interestingly enough, like you

950
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: are right, the home run he gave up to Chris

951
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: Bryant the first inning was on a slyther A pitch

952
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: that Carlos Carrasco has featured most of his starts this year,

953
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: and almost entirely threw the pitch out. After that, he

954
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: only threw two more of the rest of the game,

955
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: and they came in the second and the second inning,

956
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: So after the second inning there were no sliders from

957
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 3: Carlos Carrasco, and he completely shifted his entire game to

958
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: throwing a curveball, something he's done barely at all so

959
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 3: far this season. And he did wind up pitching super

960
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: well again after the first inning, like we're broken records

961
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: at this point, but he was really efficient. He only

962
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: threw seventy to eight pitches and seven innings. He was

963
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: giving up mostly fly balls that were being hit like

964
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: moderately hard at times, but they were finding gloves similar

965
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: to Taiwan the other night, and every single ground ball

966
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: the Giants hit off of Carlos Carrasco was.

967
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: Converted for an out, which I thought was a pretty

968
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: cool fun fact.

969
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: No, it was really nice. It also helps that we had,

970
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, Lindor and Hobby Bayas up the middle for

971
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: this game, which they're just vacuums up the middle. They're

972
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: gonna make all the plays. They're two of the best

973
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: gloves in the game up the middle. It makes sense

974
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: why the ground balls are working it. It just sucks that,

975
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: like you said, we start off in a hole and

976
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: for this team that seemingly needs every single thing to

977
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: go right for them to even maybe win a game.

978
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we had it in Game two, everything went

979
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: right for us, and we still lost that one. This

980
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: game again, the double plays were killing me. I fucking

981
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: hate ground Balls. I hate him. I can't stress it enough.

982
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: And the thing that annoyed me even more was that

983
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: had Hojo on Howard Johnson for those of you who don't,

984
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: for some reason know that nickname. Great met in the

985
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: eighties kind of a like weird little player, like had

986
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: a really good run and that was kind of it.

987
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: But he was sick during his run. He was talking

988
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: about hitting approach and they asked him, like, you know,

989
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: this is kind of not how you approached hitting. What's

990
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: your thoughts on it? And he did something that makes

991
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: me cringe, and I know it's gonna make you cringe,

992
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 1: and he's like these launch angle swings, and it's like, oh,

993
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: it's not what it is. And to hear that and

994
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: then watch the Mets ground into what three or four

995
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: more double plays this game, it's like, how can people

996
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: still not understand that one It's it's not a launch

997
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: angle swing. It's a it's an effort to hit the

998
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: ball in the air. It has nothing to do with

999
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: like your swing has to match a launch angle. No,

1000
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: it's the idea of hitting the ball with rise, hitting

1001
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: the ball with hitting it with some authority. You hit

1002
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: the ball on the ground, you're gonna make outs. And

1003
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: that's what the Mets did again. And it's just like,

1004
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't it's impossible to not hit ground balls. And yes,

1005
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Alex Wood I think had like one of the highest

1006
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: ground ball rates in the league. But the idea that

1007
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: the Mets seemingly just don't hit the ball in the

1008
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: air for any sort of power outside of Pete Alonzo

1009
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: is so incredibly frustrating.

1010
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: I can't even sympathize with any Met fan who thought

1011
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 3: we were going to hit Alex Wood, like Alex Wood

1012
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: is the Archaea type to just destroy the Mets.

1013
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: He is there's no shot.

1014
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: Dominic Leon was the only Giant this game to throw

1015
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: a pitch over ninety five miles an hour, which, god,

1016
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: I think that might have been true honestly for like

1017
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: the whole series because we didn't face Kevin Kausman.

1018
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: They just don't have a lot of arms that have

1019
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, if any.

1020
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: And as a recipe for disaster for the Mets, well,

1021
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: not that we also can't hit hard fast balls. We

1022
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 3: definitely can't hit soft breaking balls either, no chance. No,

1023
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: we can't hit sinkers. We can't hit fastballs. We can

1024
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: hit sliders, we can't hit curveballs, we can't hit change ups.

1025
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: Here we go, guys, we can't hit. Outside of Pete

1026
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: Alonzo and Brandon Nimo, this team can't hit. And let

1027
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: me go my Brandon Nemo rant right now because it's

1028
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: fresh on my mind. Fuck and I hate instant replay

1029
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: at times. It's so stupid, it's so dumb.

1030
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: The Giants made the right call, of course, you like people.

1031
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: I put out a tweet and people are like, oh,

1032
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: you're mad that the Giants said the instant replay. No,

1033
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm mad that Brandon Nemo is off of second base

1034
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: for literally a thousandth of a second, a thousandth of

1035
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: a second, he's safe. He touches the bag before he

1036
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: gets tagged, he slides over it, and for I mean

1037
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: this much, he's off the bag. If you're watching the

1038
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: video version, it is you can fit a piece of

1039
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: paper between there, and for some reason he's called out.

1040
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen instant replay miss easy calls, one

1041
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: with Brandon Nemo against the Yankees this year where he

1042
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: was clearly on first base before Luke Voight caught the

1043
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: ball and they called him out. So I don't understand

1044
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: why instant replay is so inconsistent. The Giants made the

1045
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: right call. He was technically off the base, he was

1046
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: technically out one. That's not what instant replay is for.

1047
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: It's not for the plays that are like you're trying

1048
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: to steal one there. It's supposed to be for the

1049
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: erroneous calls and then two. Yeah, why where's the consistency?

1050
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: How can sometimes they be out sometimes they be safe.

1051
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: There's just there's a clear issue with instant replay. And

1052
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: I sound like a broken record, and I sound like

1053
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: an angry Mets fan because I am and this really

1054
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: didn't matter in the game at the end of the day.

1055
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: Like nim it was the third out of the inning,

1056
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: nobody was on base. But I just hate sometimes how

1057
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: this game is played in terms of the instant replay

1058
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: rules and the fact that you can call up to

1059
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: the booth and they can look at a video and

1060
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: tell you it's gotta be something. It's gotta be a

1061
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: split second decision. No more of this. There's a guy

1062
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: up in the booth who actually gets to see the

1063
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: video break it down, and you go, hold on, umpire,

1064
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: give me, give me twenty five seconds, it's gotta be

1065
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: play happened. Boom, that's it done. Like there's so many

1066
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: issues with instant replay. I hope it gets addressed to

1067
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: the new CBA.

1068
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any chance it gets addressed. I

1069
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: think that is so far down the laundry list of

1070
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: issues between the players and the owners in the league

1071
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: that there's no way I'd agree with you though, that

1072
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: it is just bullshit that the teams can run their

1073
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: own instant replay review before any other instant replay review happens.

1074
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: Like you shouldn't be able to get on that phone

1075
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: like it should be like, how wasn't that rule?

1076
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: The football is the football?

1077
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: They do they do similar shit to someone till they don't.

1078
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: I'm guarantee you there's someone in that headset talking to

1079
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: the head coach who's looking for the challenge flag and

1080
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: his shirt and his socks and his pants.

1081
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I don't know's it feels like it's

1082
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: so like wrong to be able to look at the

1083
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: video and go, ah, now he got them. It should

1084
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: be something you have to make on the field because

1085
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: then it kind of takes more value with these challenge calls.

1086
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: It makes it a lot more strategic instead of being like, oh,

1087
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I know it's a guaranteed I'm gonna do.

1088
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: It, But isn't that a little bit to some degree

1089
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: of the point, Like it's just to get every call right.

1090
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: It's just what we've gotten by right, is some really

1091
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: awful calls. Guy's popping off bases.

1092
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like also think about like the aleut Bohm

1093
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: thing on that Sunday night baseball game with the Phillies

1094
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: and Braves where he was clearly out at the plate

1095
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: and they called him safely. It's it's annoying when they

1096
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: missed the really obvious ones, and then for some reason

1097
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: they decide to get really specific on this one and

1098
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: they find the one frame in the entire thing where

1099
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: he is off the base and he's tagged and he's out.

1100
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: I just on top of everything that was happening in

1101
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: this game, with the double plays and the first inning

1102
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: home run and the Mets just inneemic offense just put

1103
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: me over the top, and I turned off the game.

1104
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: I had enough. I was not watching it anymore. I

1105
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: watched the Bob Ross documentary on Netflix, way better time.

1106
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: Oh so you missed the fact that said Luca blew

1107
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: the game?

1108
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I missed it, but I was on

1109
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: Twitter every single every five minutes, so I didn't miss

1110
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: it at all. Actually, in fact, I saw the meltdown

1111
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: happening live just through Twitter.

1112
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: Is a real shame because Seth Lugo has been throwing

1113
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: so well. This is the first earned run he'd given

1114
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: up since that horrific Jacob Stallings night in July when

1115
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: the Mets season died.

1116
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: We just didn't know it yet.

1117
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it could definitely circle that as Hey remember

1118
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: the Mets loss of the Pirates. That's when we officially knew.

1119
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh shit, we're in trouble, not a good team.

1120
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: And we also did a really cool thing again where

1121
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 3: we got a hit every single inning except the inning

1122
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: against Tyler Rodgers.

1123
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: Well, Tyler Rodgers, we've never seen this guy pitch before, right,

1124
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: this is clearly this had to be the first time

1125
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: we saw him all season.

1126
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: Tyler Rodgers has been reincarnated. He pitched in an era

1127
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: with no video or photography, so we just don't know

1128
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 3: about Tyler Rodgers. Now, Tyler Rodgers out there throwing submarine

1129
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 3: guys like, oh my god, is that a witch?

1130
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, I mean, I'm glad I didn't have to

1131
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: watch it, because again, I'm just so, I'm at a

1132
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: boiling point where I'm like, I'm done the guys who

1133
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: are here. I want here, I get rid of everybody else.

1134
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm done. Bring in new players. It's I'm scorched to

1135
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: tear it down. We'll not tear it down. I don't

1136
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: think they should tear it down, but tear down the

1137
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: guys who shouldn't be here. That's what I'm saying. Let's

1138
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: get good players. So sick and tired of seeing Kevin

1139
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: Pillar play every fucking day. Yeah, so let's talk about

1140
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: some of the future mets here, let's do a prospect report.

1141
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: We are gonna have the Francisco Alvarez interview coming out

1142
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: a little bit later because James is gonna be on

1143
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: the road, and this episode's gonna drop a little bit

1144
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: later than we normally wanted, So we're gonna have Francisco

1145
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: Alvarez maybe dropped this weekend. Is that what we said?

1146
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: Monday Morning, you'll have Francisco al foras as long as

1147
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: is that okay, Kenda hashtsis Squalva's Monday Morning.

1148
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: They can have Francisco Alvarez. I think you guys deserve it.

1149
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: You've been giving us good ratings, reviews and listens, and

1150
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: let's talk about the guy if we're not gonna give

1151
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: you the interview right now, because while his average and

1152
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: his discipline has dropped a little bit in Brooklyn, he's

1153
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: so strong, he just hits the ball so hard.

1154
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Now the guy is a legitimate menace.

1155
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: And there was always a chance that Francisco Oliveras was

1156
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: going to aggress going from low Way to Hia, just

1157
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: because while that is a big jump in terms of

1158
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: skill level, that's also a very large adjustment because you're

1159
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 3: losing the automatic strike zone.

1160
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: Which is huge from what we've heard from these guys interviews.

1161
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, especially Francisco being a catcher, he's much

1162
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: more aware of it. And that's just a weird thing

1163
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: to lose. Having something that's like perfect, clean, automatic, and

1164
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: consistent is just not anymore. It's kind of like you

1165
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: had to relearn your sport for a few months and

1166
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: now you're doing it the old way again.

1167
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: So that's hard.

1168
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: But holy shit, has this guy's power gone to an

1169
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: completely new level since he got promoted to brook Brooklyn.

1170
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: He had sixteen home runs since he was called up.

1171
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: It's a lot. That's a lot.

1172
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: He had to stretch a couple of weeks ago where

1173
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: he hit five and eight games, and he is just

1174
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: really hitting that power stride. And we do know the

1175
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 3: play discipline is there, so once he does fully adjust,

1176
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna happen, and he's going to have those fifteen

1177
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: percent k rates again with the ten percent walk rates,

1178
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 3: because he's still walking eleven percent of the time without

1179
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: the automatic strike zone against players multiple years older than

1180
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: him in a foreign land. I'll even throw that in there.

1181
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: And just the fact that he has still struggled with

1182
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 3: that part of his game. I think he is gonna

1183
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: ride out the rest of the season in Brooklyn and

1184
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: you probably won't see him till Binghamton until next season.

1185
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: But the fact that he's gonna start next season in

1186
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: Binghamton means that he actually has.

1187
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: An outside shot to play for the Mets in twenty

1188
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: twenty two.

1189
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: Definitely, especially if mccannonito continued to be just not very good.

1190
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: There's a very easy path to the majors for Francisco Alvarez.

1191
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: I also think it's worth noting that it's impossible to

1192
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: hit in Brooklyn, so that probably has to do a

1193
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: little bit with the numbers. And we talk about city

1194
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: fields batter eye being bad, Brooklyn's batter eye is atrocious.

1195
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: There's roller coasters and lights. Their batter's eye they put

1196
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: up like a chain link fence with black sheet over

1197
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: it so you can see right through it, right through it,

1198
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: right through it. So you see what's that? What's the

1199
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: the cyclone? You see that in all this the lightning

1200
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: bolt or the jolt thunderbolt, whatever it's called.

1201
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: Went.

1202
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot going on over there. So

1203
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go crazy about the k raight.

1204
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: That's a lot going on, without even including the ridiculous

1205
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: wins coming off the Atlantic Ocean, which is one hundred

1206
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: yards away from the left field fence. It's just there's

1207
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: a lot happening there. And I cannot really follow Francisco

1208
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: Olivers from all we've seen from his play discipline through

1209
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: his minor league career thus far to think that something

1210
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: is going to continue.

1211
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: Yep.

1212
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: And then let's talk about his teammate, Ronnie Mauricio. Of course,

1213
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: we dropped the interview with him on the YouTube channel,

1214
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: but you guys heard that on the podcast a couple

1215
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: of weeks ago now or last week. I guess Ronnie

1216
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: is also having some interesting stuff going on. The power

1217
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: is definitely legit. It seems like he has finally developed

1218
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: that power that we've all been waiting for, the thing

1219
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of been missing from his game when he

1220
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: was younger.

1221
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: I mean, as he said, he's just got that New

1222
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: York City food.

1223
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: He put the weight on. It's all he really needed.

1224
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: But something kind of funny about Mauricio was he has

1225
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: the exact same batting average to Francisco oliverres a clean

1226
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: two thirty seven, which is hot, which is really Ooh,

1227
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: that's hot, and he was one more home run. So

1228
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: these two guys are just like Spider Man meting right now.

1229
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: And Ronnie's coming off his best game at Brooklyn this

1230
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: past Tuesday, where he went three for three with a

1231
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: home run, a triple, stolen base, three run scored, four RBIs,

1232
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: and most importantly, a base on balls that vaunted walk

1233
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: that Rynan Marisio has had a lot of trouble finding

1234
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: over the course of his career.

1235
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: And just since he has all these physical tools and.

1236
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: He alrely has this immense power, the ripe age of

1237
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: twenty one played, discipline is going to be the determining

1238
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: factor in whether he becomes a major league caliber player,

1239
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: a major league superstar, or just wants up being stuck

1240
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: in the minor leagues. Going into today, he has walked

1241
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: in three straight contests, five out of six games, and

1242
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: seven out of nine games. Those seven walks that he's

1243
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: gotten in the last nine games account for one third

1244
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: of his walks all season.

1245
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 1: Oh man, we're talking to met Rosario numbers.

1246
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: This also coincides a little bit with our you know,

1247
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: meeting him, So I don't want to give too much

1248
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: credit to the met Stuff podcast. For getting running ratio

1249
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: to start walking for the first time as a pro.

1250
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: But it's a pretty big development. I think we might

1251
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: have something to do with it.

1252
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1253
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: And also another guy that we talked to, Jalen Palmer,

1254
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: he got his first home run that happened after we

1255
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: talked to him too. So we will somehow, a roundabout way,

1256
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: we'll take a little credit for these guys playing well.

1257
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: A touch, just a little bit.

1258
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: I think that the guy's in Brooklyn, the guys in

1259
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: Brooklyn you remember in the Mets Stuff podcast.

1260
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: Of course, for sure. Now let's talk about some of

1261
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: the guys in Binghamton. Mark Vientos, My god, he is

1262
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: just completely I don't want to say he's changed the

1263
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: outlook of himself because he was he was a top

1264
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: prospect in the Mets organization, but I think he changed

1265
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: the alec of himself. I was gonna say he's raised

1266
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: his I think like ceiling for sure.

1267
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: I think he's also raised his floor tremendously, just based

1268
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 3: on the fact that he's now jumped a level after

1269
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: the year off, and his strikeout rate is basically in

1270
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: the same spot, and he's basically doubled his walks as well,

1271
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: almost between four point eight percent nine percent, so that

1272
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: is huge, that's massive. He has become so good he

1273
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 3: has the highest WRC plus in the Eastern League, higher

1274
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: than Adlie Rushman and Riley.

1275
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Green, two of the top five prospects in baseball.

1276
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: Can sinsus top fifteen any board you look in top

1277
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: five in a lot of places, Adlee number one in

1278
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 3: some places too. It's such a revelation that Fianto's has

1279
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: realized his potential as a first round pick finally after

1280
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: these years. And while there's still a long way to

1281
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: go in his development, because he's going to start next

1282
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: year in Triple A, like no doubt about it, and

1283
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 3: he doesn't really have a defensive home, it's pretty comforting

1284
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: to know that, at worse this guy is going to

1285
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: be able to hit enough to make an impact on

1286
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: the major league roster, especially because with Brett Baty's promotion,

1287
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: Fianto's has now played twelve games in left field at Binghamton,

1288
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: and while we don't have that many defensive stats or

1289
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 3: metrics to look at for minor league outfield defense, he's

1290
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: made no errors and that's good enough for me.

1291
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: That means that he can't be worse than Tom Smith.

1292
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: So that's all I need to hear. We've been playing

1293
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Dom Smith out in left field for over a year now,

1294
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: so he can't be worse than that. That's what it

1295
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: sounds like to me.

1296
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: Maybe we should have made Dom Smith a left fielder

1297
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: when he was twenty one.

1298
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: Who could have had a shot here, I know, right,

1299
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: I think Actually I think it was too too chubby

1300
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: back then.

1301
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: You know, he had a little bit of weight on him.

1302
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: And then there's some other guys in Binghamton that are

1303
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: actually hitting really well. Jake Mangum, who I've talked about

1304
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: him at the beginning of the year, Big Jake Mangum

1305
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: guy over here, he's playing really well. Carlos Cortes, former

1306
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: game Cock. I mean, the SEC is represented in this

1307
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: Mets farm system. Love to see it. Both of those

1308
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: guys top twenty five in WRC plus in the Eastern

1309
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: League as well.

1310
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And Mangum is the guy I really want

1311
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: to focus on today because Wildcortzez has been hitting all

1312
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: year and has pretty positive element that he has been

1313
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: able to hit all year. Mangham had a really tough

1314
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: stretch to start his career in Double A and has

1315
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: been an absolute house on fire for the last month

1316
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: or so. He's riding a thirteen game hitting streak right now,

1317
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: where he's hitting four fifty eight over that span, and

1318
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: he has put up a home run in back to

1319
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: back games, showing off power that not a lot of

1320
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: scouts thought he had. Is like a fifth or seventh

1321
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: round pick whatever he wounded up being.

1322
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he showed almost no power in college. He hit like,

1323
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: I think, like three or four home runs a year.

1324
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: He was an average guy, average guy, played good outfield,

1325
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: that's what he was. Seeing a little bit of power

1326
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: here is nice because we know he can swing the

1327
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: bat for average at.

1328
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: Least definitely, and he has been playing reportedly a good outfield.

1329
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: He's made multiple diving catches over the last couple of days,

1330
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 3: three in one game on Wednesday night, which is pretty funny.

1331
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 3: If anyone follows Jacob Resnik on Twitter, he's always posting

1332
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: great videos of the Mets minor leaguers. And while we

1333
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: have learned from defensive metrics and diving catches do not

1334
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 3: really signify being a good outfielder. But I'm at least

1335
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: confident that Jake mangan will be a plus corner outfielder

1336
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: if he does not stick in center. Just based on

1337
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: his athleticism alone, I.

1338
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: Was about to say, it tells me that he's an athlete.

1339
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: If you can dive.

1340
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: There's a difference between a diving catch and a sliding catch.

1341
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: Tom Smith is the master of the sliding catch. Jake Mangum,

1342
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Nimmel, We're gonna lay out and we're gonna dive.

1343
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: I like to see that. That means you can at

1344
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: least move your body in an athletic movement of some sorts, move.

1345
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: Your body in athletic movement. We're gonna put that on

1346
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: a sticker, Yes, just to flip to the other side

1347
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: of the coin here. The one guy at Binghamton who

1348
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: is struggling with the bat is Brett Baby. His WRC

1349
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: plus has sunk below one hundred over the last week

1350
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: or so, which means that he is now worse than

1351
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: league average at that level, which I don't want to

1352
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: say it's concerning because this is his first this is

1353
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: first introduction to double A pitching. But he's also like

1354
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: thirty seven years old, so I'd.

1355
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: Like to see guys his age.

1356
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 3: I'd like to see him be a little bit better

1357
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: against guys his age. He's striking out twenty six percent

1358
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: of the time, but that's like exactly where he was

1359
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, just with way less extra base hits, even

1360
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: though the power is still there with five home runs

1361
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: in thirty four games.

1362
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: So don't be alarmed.

1363
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: But maybe this guy is just not in like the

1364
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: ridiculous meteoric trajectory we thought he was about a month

1365
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 3: ago when Fangass put him in the top thirty.

1366
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't your your bold prediction again bold prediction. Well,

1367
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: you're just saying he could be the DH opening day

1368
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: if we have a DH or something like that.

1369
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, dch opening there that we could see him with

1370
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 3: a September call up. Maybe I'll pump the brakes on

1371
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: that one. Maybe maybe mid year twenty twenty two.

1372
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fine. Again, it's fine, Like there's there's

1373
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: no need to rush. I know, I said it last episode.

1374
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: I want to see guys rush, but that's because I

1375
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: was in crazy mets Land and I had to I

1376
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: had to get taken out of the abyss that is

1377
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Mets Twitter right now because it is just a cesspool

1378
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: but terrific. There are some pictures doing well though in Binghamton.

1379
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: There are a lot of pictures doing well right now.

1380
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: One guy, particularly Jose Budo, who I mentioned about two

1381
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: months ago after a great run in Brooklyn, is lighting

1382
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: the world on fire Binghamton. He won the Eastern League

1383
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: Picture of the Week two weeks ago after like a

1384
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: devastating seven inning I think eight or nine strikeer performance.

1385
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: Overall at the level, he has a two point five

1386
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: VRA and thirty one percent strike out rate, which is

1387
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: just a t'stronomically good for a guy who's just got

1388
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: moved up to the level. He has command of two

1389
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: off speed pitches, a very good slider and a good

1390
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: slider and a very good change up. The fastball is

1391
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: not super exciting, but if you have two off speed pitches,

1392
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: that at least gives you like a massive leg up

1393
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: at that level. And he's going to be on the

1394
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: forty man roster this offseason because he is Rule five eligible,

1395
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: So there's a good chance.

1396
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: We see my boy Jose Budo at the field next year.

1397
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: Another guy who's very under the radar who's been pitching

1398
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: well for Binghamton is someone by the name of Jared Robinson.

1399
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: The Mets picked him up this offseason after he was

1400
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: let go by Cleveland. He's so he's a little bit

1401
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: of an older dude, twenty six years old, and he

1402
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 3: has a thirty four percent strike guy ray at Binghamton

1403
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: in a three eight ERA, which the era is pedestrian,

1404
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: but the minor league is you really want to look

1405
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: more towards swing and miss stuff, strikeouts, missing bats because

1406
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: a lot that goes into era minor league fielders are

1407
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: much worse than fielder is the major league level, so

1408
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: that kind of thing can not really mean everything sometimes.

1409
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: But he has a very legit slider. He sits mid

1410
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 3: nineties with the fastball at worst. Gotten a competent reliever

1411
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: for free, which is pretty fucking cool.

1412
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is cool to see. Don't know a

1413
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: lot about these guys, but I know that Jose Budo

1414
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: has been a guy that you've been talking about a

1415
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: little bit. So I'm excited to see that he is

1416
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: still pitching well and maybe he is a guy that

1417
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: we can look to in twenty twenty two, like you said.

1418
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: And then there's also one more guy that I think

1419
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: is deserving some mention here because he was a draft

1420
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: pick last year, fifth round pick. I think he came

1421
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: from the University of New Orleans, which is not a

1422
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: baseball hotbed by any means. Is Eric ors Orzy. I

1423
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce his name.

1424
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: I would say orse and then maybe we'll find out

1425
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: for the next episode.

1426
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: He's pitching well, he's jumped up all the way to

1427
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: Syracuse after starting the year in Brooklyn. While he's getting

1428
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: hit a little bit, he's still being serviceable. And the

1429
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: fact that he's been moved up in the organization so

1430
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: quickly just shows that maybe he's a reliever that they

1431
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: think they can make into a piece at some point

1432
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: to get some reasonable innings.

1433
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1434
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Again, maybe better than some of the guys that we've

1435
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: seen come up and pitch, like Jeff Hartleeb.

1436
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: We really pick on Jeff Hartleeb on the show, but sorry, Jeff.

1437
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: Just the fact that Eric Orsey was the fifth round

1438
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 3: pick in the very famous five round drafts of twenty

1439
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: twenty means that the Mets see a lot in him

1440
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 3: as a prospect, and he ripped through ripped through the

1441
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 3: leagues in Brooklyn and Binghamton. He had thirty five percent

1442
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 3: k rate in Brooklyn. I think like a thirty eight

1443
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: or thirty nine percent k raid in Binghamton with Eras

1444
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: and the twos that both leve Us, and he still

1445
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: has a twenty eight percent k rate in like five

1446
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: or six appearances so far for Syracuse. Just getting hit

1447
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen because he was pitching in single a

1448
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: two months ago. So I think he is someone that

1449
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna see probably on the forty man roster this

1450
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: offseason and could definitely see him become one of our

1451
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: depth relievers very soon.

1452
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: And then just quick little check in on some guys

1453
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about throughout the year who are

1454
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: struggling a little bit here JT. Gin, which is unfortunate.

1455
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: He's kind of struggling in Brooklyn, but again, he's coming

1456
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: back from Tommy John his first time in professional baseball. Understandable,

1457
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: but we want to obviously keep an eye on what's

1458
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: going on down there in Brooklyn with him.

1459
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, he's kind of relearning how to pitch. That's

1460
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: just what happens after Tommy John surgery, and the results

1461
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: were good at first and they've not been good recently.

1462
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: His raised over six over his last five starts. He's

1463
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: only striking out eighteen percent of bathers. That's kind of

1464
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: a bummer, especially in the league where offense doesn't really

1465
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: reign supreme. But you kind of just have to throw

1466
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: this year out with him, just make sure he's healthy

1467
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: and okay, and then run him out there again next

1468
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: year and you hope you see a little bit more velocity,

1469
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: better command of his off speed stuff, and he delivers

1470
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: on the high prospect pedigree.

1471
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: That we know he has.

1472
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: Should have been interviewed with us, turned his entire season around.

1473
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: It's ironica. He was the one guy who did not,

1474
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: but not his fault. He just didn't have time, but

1475
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: really could have made a difference there.

1476
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: He could have made a difference.

1477
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold a slider like this man, this is gonna

1478
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: do it for you.

1479
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, hear from the guy who played high school baseball.

1480
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: Let them tell you what's going on. And then the

1481
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: last guy, Alex Samirozho's your boy. He's still eighteen years old,

1482
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: so whatever. But he's struggling in Saint Lucy for sure.

1483
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

1484
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: He's about ten percent worse in the league average right now,

1485
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 3: striking out over thirty percent of the time, which I

1486
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: don't love to see. But he's eighteen years old. He

1487
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 3: is older than basically all of the Mets playing in

1488
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: the floor of the Complex League. The Mets have just

1489
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: a lot of unimpressive like twenty and twenty one years

1490
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: old when you're at playing down there. Because Alexaimiriz the

1491
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: only international signing besides Francisco Overrez. They've given over a

1492
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: million dollars in the last four offseasons, So like, just

1493
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: to pull some positive out of this, he still has

1494
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 3: an eight percent walker as an eighteen year old playing

1495
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 3: with guys in their twenties, which is super duper impressive,

1496
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: and he has five home runs as a guy who's

1497
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: railed in and again eighteen years old, and he's stealing

1498
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: based like a madman, just because all the crazy rules

1499
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: down there that we've spoken about before with the pickoffs,

1500
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: and I believe that's actually the only rule down there

1501
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: with the pickoffs.

1502
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: So this is still actually a positive season.

1503
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: I would say just a year of professional baseball for

1504
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: an eighteen year old at that level probably is a

1505
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: positive thing. You've seen the Yankees put Jason Dominguez in

1506
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: they're on their eighteam level and he's struggling a little

1507
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: bit too, and his few games that he's played, so

1508
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: it's understandable when you're young like that. It's a hard

1509
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: adjustment adjustment, especially when you didn't have a pro season

1510
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: last year too. So it's gonna happen. I don't think

1511
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: it's anything to take concern of. But that's gonna wrap

1512
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: up our Mets Farm report here on episode number forty

1513
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: four of the Mets Up podcast, let's go ahead and

1514
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: do our preview silver lining. We got the Washington Nationals

1515
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: coming up, and boy does that team stay more than

1516
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: the Mets. But I guess that anything can happen with

1517
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: the way that this team's playing. If you put up

1518
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: two or three runs, you are gonna lose to the Nationals.

1519
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't care how bad they are. Every single team

1520
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball can score two or three runs

1521
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: on a given night. The Orioles have been scoring thirteen

1522
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: runs the last few games against the Angels, so I

1523
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: mean we got a shot. Who are they pitching, It

1524
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I don't know.

1525
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,479
Speaker 2: You know the names. I'll tell you the names.

1526
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's find out who these jokes are that are

1527
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing.

1528
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: Against us Friday night. Palo Espino sick, sick. Can't touch him, No,

1529
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: we can't hit him. Saturday evening is Sean Nolan, who

1530
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: I just saw the name Nolan. I had to click

1531
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: him because I didn't know the first name. And O

1532
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 3: L I n I believe too, right, yes, yeah, yeah,

1533
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: thank you.

1534
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: Have a language of origin too?

1535
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: Uh maybe uh German? I think it could be Polish

1536
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: at all.

1537
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's a fair guess.

1538
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: And then on Sunday we have we have the vaunted

1539
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: ace Eric Fetti ready to ready to snatch our hearts.

1540
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: Fetti wop that dude. If he's not gonna throw, well

1541
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna at least drop a banger.

1542
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: Ah.

1543
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: God, if we can't hit these guys, I'm gonna say

1544
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: something crazier. If you go hitless in this series, hitless,

1545
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: hitless a player. If you're a player goes hitless in

1546
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: the series, we should take a deep look into whether

1547
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: or not you should be on this team the next year.

1548
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: Whether or not you should be a professional baseball player

1549
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: at all.

1550
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, okay, outside of Lindor, Alonso, Nemo and McNeil,

1551
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: if you don't get a hit during this series, you

1552
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: are not on the team next year. I do not care.

1553
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: You're done.

1554
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: Cut him right now, Cut them where they stand. If

1555
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: you can't get hits off of a speedo Sean Nolan,

1556
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: who I think might throw eighty eight if I had

1557
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: to guess left handed. Is that how it works?

1558
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: Let's see, I bet he's a left he sounds like

1559
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: a lefty. He is a lefty. Yeah, New Yorker.

1560
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: He's gotta throw eighty eight. There's no way he throws

1561
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: harder than eighty eight miles an hour. And Eric Fetti.

1562
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: We can't get hit off those guys. And then the

1563
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: Nationals bullpen, which is also just made up players you

1564
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on a major league roster.

1565
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: Sean Nolan's whip is two point four in the season.

1566
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: That's so bad.

1567
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: Holy shit. He gives you two and a half batters

1568
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: on base and inning. The Mets will find a way

1569
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: to not score. I guarantee it. I guarantee we score

1570
01:01:59,680 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: one off.

1571
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 3: We've let everybody know the Mets get on base at will.

1572
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: Mets on base percentage isn't even awful, Like, it's definitely

1573
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: not good. When SNY dropped that stat on Thursday afternoon,

1574
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: they auspiciously omitted on base percentage because the Mets is

1575
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: probably actually even and every single stat they dropped on

1576
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: there was thirty ae, twenty ninth, twenty fourth, twenty six,

1577
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty six, twenty third.

1578
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go through it. Let's go through it real quick,

1579
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: because they dropped almost every single offensive stat and it

1580
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: was funny because they even dropped at bats. The Mets

1581
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: have just had the least amount of at bats in baseball.

1582
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how that happens, but thirtieth.

1583
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: They've gotten around the fewest amount of times.

1584
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: And they also probably still have like three or four

1585
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: less games than everybody else, which is such a hilarious

1586
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: thing to still think about.

1587
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: Thirtieth and at bats twenty ninth and hits twenty ninth,

1588
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: in runs twenty sixth, in home runs, twenty ninth in RBIs,

1589
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: twenty ninth in doubles, We're gonna keep going twenty ninth,

1590
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: in total bases twenty sixth, and average twenty seventh, in

1591
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: slugging twenty sixth, in ops twenty fifth, and average exit

1592
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: velow twenty first and hard hit rate. You know what

1593
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: that tells me? Metscan hit.

1594
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: Can I give you a Rosieer picture?

1595
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a Rosie picture.

1596
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: Mets are twentieth and on base percentage.

1597
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: WHOA, only the bottom ThReD of the league. But we're

1598
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: the best of the worst.

1599
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: Right there, right there, ahead of the Marlins, ahead of

1600
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: the Royals, ahead of the Mariners, head of the Cubs,

1601
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 3: the Tigers, the Cardinals, the Rangers.

1602
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: These are juggernauts.

1603
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: Those are some really tough teams to beat.

1604
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, you know, behind the Diamondbacks of course.

1605
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that's bad. God, can you get Mets up? Listeners?

1606
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: Can you even name the four guys on the Diamondbacks

1607
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: team right now? I don't think you can that hit.

1608
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: I think the top four, the older I could probably name.

1609
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: All right, go go for it. I just want to

1610
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: try this out.

1611
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 3: Let's see, Josh Rojas can tell Marte Dalton Varshow and

1612
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 3: why the Trader?

1613
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, pavnt Pavin Smith?

1614
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: Maybe is Dalton Varshow?

1615
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: Even playing the dal Varshow has been scorching hot for

1616
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 3: the last two weeks.

1617
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I have some autograph cards and we're gonna

1618
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: sell those because.

1619
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 2: He's probably selling them the next couple of weeks.

1620
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but whatever, we're not talking about the Diamonbacks. We're

1621
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: talking about the Mets. If we can't beat the Nationals.

1622
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, if you didn't think the season

1623
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: was over, it is one thousand percent over. If the

1624
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: Mets can't beat the Nationals because the Braves got the Giants,

1625
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: this is another chance, another golden opportunity that baseball's like, okay, okay,

1626
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: here we go. You got a chance to maybe get

1627
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: back into it. Three against the Nationals. The Braves got

1628
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: the Giants. Gotta win them all, gotta sweep.

1629
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: That's it.

1630
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: The Braves right now, go Giants, Dodgers, and then another

1631
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 3: series or two before they go Giants again. The Braves

1632
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: have yet to play the San Francisco Giants this year.

1633
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm sure the Giants will go cold.

1634
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: Now.

1635
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course they were only scoring like a couple

1636
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: runs a game these last two wins against the Mets,

1637
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: so they basically have gotten cold. Yeah, the Braves will

1638
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: win seven four, and we'll be like, oh damn it.

1639
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: But Mets fans, if you want, I don't know, like

1640
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: any type of tiny little bit sliver of possible hope,

1641
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 3: which is really unlikely. You just we have twelve games

1642
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 3: against Nationals and Marlins. You just have to win all

1643
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 3: of them, maybe ten.

1644
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: But I think at the worst you have to win ten.

1645
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: You have to win ten of the next twelve.

1646
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 3: Wait, I think we have thirteen one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,

1647
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: oh fourteen fourteen games against US win Nationals and Virgins

1648
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: twelve to fourteen, eleven eleven of fourteen worst case scenario.

1649
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: But it has to be. It has to be double

1650
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: digits wins here.

1651
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: Even maybe have a chance, which is crazy to say.

1652
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: Possibly, And we don't even face Josiah Gray or Patrick Corpin,

1653
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: the two pitchers who are by far the best in

1654
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: the national staff. So justin find a fucking way score

1655
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: some damn runs.

1656
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we don't, it's gonna be bad. It's gonna

1657
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: be fun to listen to this podcast, which takes us

1658
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: to the end of it end of episode number forty

1659
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: four of the Met Stuff podcast. We do want to

1660
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out though, to a couple of

1661
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: listeners viewers who found are stickers in City Field allegedly

1662
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: possibly you know they might be around that stadium there.

1663
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: You got names from me, James, We got.

1664
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 3: Our boy, Tyler Blue Blue Boy one four one four.

1665
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 3: He found it allegedly sitting on top of the hand sanitizer.

1666
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: That's a sticker that allegedly has not been the stadium

1667
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 3: for multiple months in a very very open location. So

1668
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: shout out I guy Tyler, pretty cool. And we got

1669
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 3: a boy, Chris Brooklyn boy one two two one called

1670
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 3: the I don't even know where this is.

1671
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: It's not an orange backdrop.

1672
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: Oh if I had to think, if if I knew

1673
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: where this was, I I would guess that it's in

1674
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: the stairwell.

1675
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 3: It's allegedly in the stairwell. You just allegedly jocked my memory.

1676
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, shout out with boy Chris. Thank you guys

1677
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: finding the stickers.

1678
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, appreciate it, and uh yeah. That's the end

1679
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: of the episode number forty four of the METS up Podcast.

1680
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening, Thank you guys for watching.

1681
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: Make sure you're following us on Twitter, Instagram at mets stup.

1682
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,959
Speaker 1: Make sure you're listening or watching us on YouTube mets

1683
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: up Podcast. You can listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify,

1684
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Speaker 1: Google podcasts, anywhere you got them. If you can listen

1685
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: to us, Oh yeah, and also keep an eye out

1686
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: for TikTok. We're gonna be doing some TikTok stuff over there.

1687
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you search up mets up you'll be

1688
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: able to find us. So check us out on TikTok

1689
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: as well if you want some little short form video content.

1690
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: We're doing it all. We're trying it all, trying to

1691
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: make this podcast grow, which it has done so great

1692
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: the season. Thank you, guys for the amazing support. We

1693
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: will talk to you after this. We will talk to

1694
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: you after the end of this Washington National series. Thank

1695
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: you guys for watching, Thank you for listening. We'll see

1696
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: you next time. Peace Out, peace out.

1697
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: See you guys next time.

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Speaker 1: Active