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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast went pro increed bombing. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg rows it All. What's up boys? Hey? Dan enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the look on Greg's face. They're pure discomfort. As you

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Speaker 1: brought your mouth close to his face. I would say

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Speaker 1: it's more like disgusted. Yeah, I mean if you creed

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Speaker 1: bomb creed bombing in the open of the show. I

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Speaker 1: had never done that before. So even what do we know?

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Speaker 1: Five four shows in, you gotta keep it fresh, just

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Speaker 1: like Mark, Just like a marriage. Yeah, that's absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: Like your marriage. That's also correct as thousands of people

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Speaker 1: analyze my personal life. If you are watching this on

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Speaker 1: Paris Scope, Hello, how are you? This is our second

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Speaker 1: Thursday Paris Periscope program where we preview. We previewed week

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Speaker 1: seventeen this week and now here we are. The playoffs

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Speaker 1: are upon US wild Card weekend. Uh So we are

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Speaker 1: going to break down each of the four wild card games,

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Speaker 1: two on Saturday, two on Sunday, in a show that

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Speaker 1: is brought to you exclusively by Mr Flames, economics class

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Speaker 1: in the Hague, the Netherlands, and a little bit before

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Speaker 1: we get into the games, a little bit of house cleaning.

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Speaker 1: The people have spoken UH by a fifty two to

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Speaker 1: forty percent margin. Hank won the vote to settle our

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Speaker 1: Oswiler prop conflict, UH four percent margin of victory. Can

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Speaker 1: you explain what the conflict was? Well, the conflict was

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Speaker 1: that I had UH. Hank during our Sandwich props had

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Speaker 1: had approached the group and said, hey, UM, a collection

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Speaker 1: of free agent quarterbacks, Brock Oswiler among them, none of

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Speaker 1: them will lead their team to the playoffs. I took

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Speaker 1: him on that prop. And despite my contention that Brock

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Speaker 1: is on the Houston Texans UH and was the star

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Speaker 1: card starter UM, I was outvoted. So a victory four

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Speaker 1: percent margin of victory. Another win for the two percenters

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Speaker 1: up on the third floor. Henry, I know you're listening.

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Speaker 1: I want you to know I will honor the result.

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Speaker 1: You Trump to me, and speaking of Trump, congrats to

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Speaker 1: West who went full putin and conspiring against me, ending

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Speaker 1: directly the around the NFL podcast. I have I have

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Speaker 1: a bit of a story to tell. Now it's story time. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a story of the a f C South. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Vladimir going down at the old a f C South

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Speaker 1: Race track. Four horses about to take the start. You've

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Speaker 1: got a yearly sired by American Pharaoh, not quite ready

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Speaker 1: trained by Bob Bafford. The gates fly open, of course,

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Speaker 1: the thoroughbred jumps out to a great thunderous start, and

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Speaker 1: then slowly you see that the drunk jockey cannot control him.

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Speaker 1: He's weaving all over the place. The yearling comes along,

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Speaker 1: The thoroughbred wins the race on his own. Figure comes

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Speaker 1: out of the crowd, approaches the drunk, passed out jockey.

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL's Dan Hansas. He wakes up. The

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Speaker 1: jockey throws on the Garland Roses And said, congratulations, you

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Speaker 1: lead that horse to the victory. That's that's the logic

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Speaker 1: that Dan is the drunk jockey. No, I'm saying he's

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Speaker 1: and I would tell West actively campaigned on Henry's behalf

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Speaker 1: First of all, I didn't personal tax I did not

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Speaker 1: left the results close. They were very close. Greg's next

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Speaker 1: The first game up, the primetime affair between the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that we saw when these teams

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Speaker 1: met in Mexico City was that Oakland to deal with

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Speaker 1: tennis with Texas, with the Texans defense use their running

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Speaker 1: backs as receivers to a great extent. And I think

429
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Speaker 1: they're gonna try with Connor Cook to do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And I have this weird feeling that Jalen Richard is

431
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Speaker 1: going to be the centerpiece of this game. I'm not

432
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Speaker 1: saying that's how they're going in planning, but weird players

433
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Speaker 1: and weird things happen, and this is an opportunity for

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Speaker 1: I think Oakland's backfield to carry the day. Potentially they're

435
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Speaker 1: gonna need to. Well can I answer your original please

436
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Speaker 1: do yes. I'm confused at what the options were myself

437
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: at this no death, but the Texans and Raiders disappear

438
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Speaker 1: from the year. Well, certain things that seem strange or

439
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: unnecessary vanished, and where these two teams are right now,

440
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: they may be, and you're famously predicted there will be

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Speaker 1: no super bawl, So this would almost be like a

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Speaker 1: tremor before that, I think this would be a major

443
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Speaker 1: tremor playoff game. I like having Stonehenge in the Great

444
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Speaker 1: Wall of China, and I really think that brock ost

445
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: Weader's calling might be cuddling people for a living, So

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Speaker 1: I'll take option number one. Well answered, Oh my gosh,

447
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of fatalities. I know you

448
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Speaker 1: don't want to say that, but we're talking to millions

449
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Speaker 1: of people. Bro Well, I'm not I'm not, you know,

450
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Speaker 1: lobbying for that necessarily scenario. It's not what my fancy.

451
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: My fancy would be the first where brock Oswiler gets

452
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Speaker 1: some sort of bizarre redemption story and then vanishes into

453
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Speaker 1: a you know, a sub genre type of self help scenario.

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Speaker 1: I've I've heard this narrative being peddled this week that

455
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Speaker 1: brock Oswidler is some sort of new man, that he's looser,

456
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Speaker 1: that he's saying that he's like I've heard it I've

457
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: heard it's he's looser. He's like he's looser with the press.

458
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: He's just letting it ripped. Like he was more decisive

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Speaker 1: last week. And watch the game. He was a mess

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Speaker 1: last week. I mean they were First of all, he's

461
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: dancing around like they won the super Bowl. When he

462
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: cut the lead to seven against Matt Castle with a

463
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Speaker 1: couple of minut it's left and they really had no

464
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: chance to win. He had a chance to win the game.

465
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: He went for out. Terrible decisions in the game, not accurate.

466
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Speaker 1: He never lets his receivers stay in bounds when he

467
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: throws it deep, and that's how you beat the Raiders

468
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: is throwing it so basically the broadcasts that we've been

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Speaker 1: watching since, that's all I'm saying. I think what the

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Speaker 1: what the pedaling is about probably is that brock Coswaller

471
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Speaker 1: has kind of already hit rock bottom. He's kind of

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Speaker 1: rock bottom. He's a brock bottom. Connor Cook would be lower.

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Speaker 1: Okay maybe, but I'm just saying in terms of he's

474
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Speaker 1: already laughed at as the worst free agent signing. Than

475
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Speaker 1: losing your job to a guy who doesn't exist, thank

476
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Speaker 1: you that you've also already lost your job to Tom

477
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Speaker 1: Savage of all people, and only and only got it

478
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Speaker 1: back because Tom Savage got knocked in the head. I

479
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Speaker 1: think that I think that really he must be a

480
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: little bit looser because he's already experienced. At worst you

481
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Speaker 1: could in the first year of this type of deal.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he's gonna be good, though. I think you

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Speaker 1: do what you've done with Brock Costweller all year. Have

484
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Speaker 1: him handed off the Lamar Miller, try to hit a

485
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Speaker 1: few passes over the middle and let Jadevion c only

486
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Speaker 1: a Whitney, merciless Greek havoc on an offensive line that

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Speaker 1: they frankly clowney clowned and may not have Donald Penn.

488
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: We don't know if Donald Penn will play. That's the thing.

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00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: They had a hundred and twenty yards the Raiders did

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00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: with eleven minutes left in that game, and they finished

491
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Speaker 1: it strong. So if Connor Cook is struggling this week

492
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: and in everyone with the Raiders just okay, Derek Carr

493
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: has gone, Oh, the season's over. This team won twelve games.

494
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: There kind of Cook had nothing to do with their

495
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: defense not showing up last week, not being able to tackle.

496
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: They couldn't run the ball last week. If you're if

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Speaker 1: you're a team, you should be able to survive some

498
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: of this a little bit step up, you know, the

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Speaker 1: offensive line play better. Connor Cook made a couple of

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Speaker 1: nice throws. I mean, the defense has a great match

501
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: up here against Brack Goswaller, a lot of highly paid players.

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00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Let's step up. Also, Houston's defense, their secondary essentially shut

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Speaker 1: down Amari Cooper and Crabtree when they played I think

504
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: it was week eleven. They held him to a combine

505
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Speaker 1: sixty son yards. Cooper had a touchdown. But I mean,

506
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Speaker 1: if you can, if you'd say you can hold those

507
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: two to that amount again, that's that's the recipe for

508
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: success right there. In this game, I am going to

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Speaker 1: pick the Oakland Raiders in a very tight contest. Chris

510
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: Westling I had the Raiders at first, but I think

511
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: that Connor Cook the game's too fast for him right now.

512
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: That's what I saw on tape, and he looks like

513
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: a turnover waiting to happen. He does have some wild throws,

514
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: He's got the talent. I'm not picking a guy in

515
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: his first start. I'm taking the Texans defense in this game.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders are the great tragedy of the season. Uh,

517
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Speaker 1: they should have been the fun one of the most

518
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: fun aspects of this playoffs. Instead they get wheeled in

519
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: on life support. And I'm with west Connor Cook is

520
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: not ready for the stage. I don't love the Texans

521
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Speaker 1: at all, and I certainly don't think they're gonna rop

522
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Speaker 1: in this game because I don't think their offense will

523
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Speaker 1: put a lot of points on the board. But I

524
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: am certain that the Texans advanced to the second certain

525
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: so certain in fact, it's Broco, come with me, because

526
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Speaker 1: we're gonna lock it up. He wrapped it up, brock

527
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: it up, tike it. Do you want to know how

528
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: sure I am that you are wrong? Who you're not getting?

529
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: You can't brack it up seven weeks in a row

530
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: and you can make it eight. You didn't want people

531
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: to do boring locks. You're not gonna get a boring lock.

532
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking up the Raiders. Lock unlock crime, lock unlock crime. Wow.

533
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't even need to make a

534
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: pick at this point. It's all what do you got?

535
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: It's all forgetful. I mean, it's all letdown. I'm gonna

536
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: take the Raiders. I mean, I think this I've got

537
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: NFL Networks Creig Rosenthal on my side. That's a good

538
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: i'd have. He's in TV, which means he's better than us.

539
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: This game is gonna change control yourselves. This game could

540
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: change the future of the Texans franchise. If they lose

541
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: this game at home to Connor cook Um with Smith's

542
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: hand pick quarterback. I don't think we should be that

543
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: surprised if they have a new coach next year. It happened, um,

544
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: you know, and if they win this game, I think

545
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: the coaches probably around next year. So what are you

546
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: making from your fellow TV people? Well, it was I mean,

547
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm I've I've heard some things. But it was reported

548
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: on Fox too that it's an the room. Yeah, it's uh,

549
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: it's imp on Fox that O'Brien could could be out,

550
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't get along with Rick Smith, and that this

551
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: game might be I I think that's not crazy at all.

552
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, stuff is definitely gonna happen if you dropped

553
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: two wild cards in a row. I heard out there

554
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: that that Rick that Rick Smith never saw eye to

555
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: eye on the Oswaller signing with the head coach, and

556
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: that that could be friction. Remember Brian might see those

557
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: jobs out there too and say, hey, whats all right,

558
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: let's move on Sunday games. The Miami Dolphins, the number

559
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: six seed UH in the a f C, travel to

560
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh that face the Steelers. A lot of people sighted

561
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal about the Steelers as a team that can

562
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: unseat the mighty Patriots, But they got some business to

563
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: take care of first, and a business is called Matt Moore. Well,

564
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Matt Moore is their biggest problem. I

565
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: think Cameron Wake and and Dominican Sue are their two

566
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: biggest problems. And and if there's any recipe for Miami

567
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: to try to win this game, it's similar to the

568
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: way they wanted in Miami, which is that they won

569
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: surprisingly up front on both sides of the ball. We

570
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about this Steeler's offensive line as being one

571
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: of the best groups in league, and they got beat

572
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: They got beaten Miami, So that didn't have anything to

573
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: do with with Ben Roethlisberger. Cameron Wake won his battles

574
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: in that game, and Dominicans who won his battles. And

575
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Speaker 1: I don't see the Dolphins having much of a chance

576
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: in this game. But these are two of the most

577
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: underrated players in the NFL, two of the best players

578
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: at their position over the last five years in the NFL.

579
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: They play right next to each other, and they gotta

580
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: do something special. I don't it's it's asking a lot,

581
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: but the two of them, Sue and Wad, have to

582
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: do something special. They've never won. They've never won a

583
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: playoff game either. I mean, this is a big game

584
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: for for those two guys in this entire Dolphins team.

585
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: I I can't get the memory out of my head

586
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills just romping over this defense. And

587
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that that was way back in what

588
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: week six when these teams played. That was also before

589
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers started to use LEVI on Bell the way

590
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: he's been down the stretch. I think this Pittsburgh team

591
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: showed incredible amounts of electric electric power. They can do

592
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: whatever they want when they're on and I don't think

593
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins will be able to keep up. But

594
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: so to me, I don't think they're powered by the sun.

595
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: Was this a night game? I hope not. We'll see

596
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: that it's the early afternoon, early afternoon, the suns. I

597
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: was searching for a word and I did not find

598
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: it that was a completely different Steelers team. In Week six,

599
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: the rookies that they have on defense had not been

600
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: playing much to that point. Sean Davison, he entered the

601
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: starting line up there seven and one, with their only

602
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: loss coming in that thirty thirty game against the Dolphins. Already,

603
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: Burns is playing pretty well at cornerback, and Bud dupri

604
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: came back and has given them an edge rusher too.

605
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: I think they're a totally different team that Week six

606
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: game that were relying on an injured Big Ben and

607
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 1: since then they're directing their offense. But he was injured

608
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: because they were getting beat. He got injured late in

609
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: the first half because they couldn't protect him. So I mean, well,

610
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: and now the Dolphins had the injured quarterback and they

611
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: got Matt More starting. The Dolphins are in so much

612
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: trouble because Byron Maxwell had one of the best games

613
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: anyone's had against Antonio Brown all year and he might

614
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: not even play in this game, and that that is

615
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: a huge lost. Also in trouble because Big Ben at

616
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: home has a one six team point seven passer rating

617
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: in a way a seventy eight point four rating. He

618
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: is as good at home as any quarterback in the NFL,

619
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: and he has never had Antonio Brown and Levy on

620
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: Bell in a playoff game at the same time. That's

621
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: they They almost beat the Super Bowl winning Broncos without

622
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown on the road last year. And I think

623
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: this is a much at our team than that Steelers team. Mark.

624
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: I thought that you made a good point about the

625
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: defense in Miami being exposed in that Buffalo game, and

626
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: they certainly did not play well, But I also look

627
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: at the other side of the ball. Is the reason

628
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: why you could get excited a little bit as a

629
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: Dobbins fan in terms of hope. J Agi, who had

630
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: been slumping, you know it, kind of regressed for several

631
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: weeks going into that game, went off had another two

632
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: hundred yard game. And I don't expect expect him to

633
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: rush for two hundred, but he showed, Hey, I still

634
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: got that in me Um having a special season. I

635
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: rushed Rome was twelve hundred yards this week, since Ann

636
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: ran for two hundred and four against Pittsburgh when they met.

637
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't that may translate more than anything we saw

638
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: from I'm kind of with Western that I don't even

639
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: put too much stock into that game so long ago,

640
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: but just in the sense of a GI is not

641
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: a guy. It's like, oh, JGI has not rushed for

642
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: more than sixty seven yards since Week twelve, Like that

643
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: was thrown out the window when he had They need

644
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: him because they need to hold onto the ball. It

645
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: is such a tough ask for this team. But then

646
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: you think about the Steelers, and they are great and

647
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: their bow on their defense has been great. But look,

648
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: let's be honest. The last time they had a meaningful game,

649
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, they gave up a big time drive to

650
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens that by all accounts, could have knocked them

651
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. I mean, the Ravens got the ball,

652
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: Nedia touchdown, they went right down the field and they

653
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: got it. They trailed big time at halftime against the Bengals.

654
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: They trailed big time against the Ravens. So as good

655
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: as as they have been, it's it's the NFL where

656
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: they're not. It's not like they're blowing teams out. Well.

657
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: The other thing I saw in that game, though, was

658
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: how Big Ben sat on the sideline while the Ravens

659
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: drove right down for that touchdown. Not a look of panic,

660
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: but the complete opposite. The guy is supremely confident. They

661
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: know what they could go. They went right down the

662
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: field in a minute and won the game. So a

663
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: little bit of bad luck there, Kyle used check you

664
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: know falls at the one yard line. They scored the

665
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: touchdown thirty seconds later, and the Steelers are staying home

666
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: for the playoffs, which is so wild to think about.

667
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: If the Steelers have a weakness, it's like you guys said,

668
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: the defense has not faced a stiff test since the Cowboys,

669
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: and they're not going to face a stiff test in

670
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: this game either. That More is not a guy I

671
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: see going into Pittsburgh. I mean, just from a macro viewpoint,

672
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Matt Moore is not going into Pittsburgh to me and

673
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: winning this game. I'm gonna I'm picking the Steelers. I

674
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: think a lot of people aren't. It's because this seems

675
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: like it could could be the most lopsleted game of

676
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: the week. I think are the biggest favorites of the week. Well,

677
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: I think we're saying if Pittsburgh plays to its heights,

678
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: if they played with their full power, this game will

679
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: not be close. M let's pick them. So I got Steelers,

680
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Let's play a little game for Oh, you want to

681
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: play a game? Wait? Did you write up a game?

682
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I almost forgotten about it went to the we're going

683
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: to out of game? What we got? Well, you know,

684
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: you guys, know, you guys have alluded to that. I'm

685
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, recovering addict for many years, really on this

686
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: on this program for multiple issues. Right, but um, you know,

687
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: we're you know, picking games, So you gotta do some things.

688
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of like taking a nicotine lozenge or whatever.

689
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: You gotta do somethings to to make up for that.

690
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: So you can't do over unders at the NFL. So

691
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna call this not over unders. Okay, all right,

692
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I like not over unders. It's not over unders, Levy

693
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: on Bell. The drop puts you in the tricky gray areas.

694
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: Over under a hundred and fifty yards means that, now,

695
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, just you know, a little wink.

696
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: It's just a little wink sometimes all he needs a

697
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: little wink, just so I say not under Well, I

698
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: don't even know that's a good point. I think he

699
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: will have more than fifty yards from scrimmage. I think

700
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: he's been waiting for this game since he came into

701
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: the NFL, and he's gonna have a monster game. And

702
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: I think if you, if you set the not over

703
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: under at a hundred and seventy five and a half,

704
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: I take the over. It's gonna be a big one.

705
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: He ever just one fifty seven, which is the third

706
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: highest total in NFL history. And I don't like the

707
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Dolphins linebackers. I don't think Dolphins fans like the Dolphins linebackers.

708
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm going over. They have given up I think, second

709
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: to last in the league in rushing yards. Pert tempt

710
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: that that's not all that. We got another one here,

711
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: all right, over under one half of a conversation or no, wait,

712
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: let's do this again. Here one half of a dirty

713
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: play by and Dominican Sue that inspires a Jim Nance

714
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Phil Simms handwringing conversation. I'm going not over. I'm going

715
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna seize the moment. That's the thing about Sue.

716
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: He always raises his dirty game when the when the

717
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: spotlight is on him, when the when the lights go up.

718
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving two years in a row, he did it. He

719
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: did it against the Pats with a terrible offside shove

720
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: of your poor center Greg, and I think he's got

721
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: a good one in him, and it will probably happen

722
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: later in the game when frustration is set in. I'm thinking, uh,

723
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: groin stump, I am going, I am going. I think

724
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: he's going to go through the whole game without one

725
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: of these wacky things to get we have to write

726
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: four thousand posts about you're hoping, Well, he's not really

727
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: been that guy this year, been that guy for of

728
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: the games he's ever played. Why, Yeah, I'm going I'm

729
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: going under the not, under the knot over whatever we're

730
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: calling it. He's not happening. Yeah, this guy is one

731
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: of the most understood, misunderstood players in the league. As

732
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: Greg said, he's underrated. He's always one of the top

733
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: three defensive tackles in the NFL, and he's done like

734
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: two two dirty things. Ever, compared to Van Perfect, who

735
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: does to every game's out there, He's been voted by

736
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: the entire league uh as a dirty gathers because because

737
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: everybody watches Thanksgiving, let the best player, and Blunt wold

738
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: he let's be the best player. Like Eric Blunts a

739
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: great source. He's a very very down to earth guy.

740
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Blunt should we do one more now? Yeah, this is

741
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: just a joy. Ryan not over under Three sideline shots

742
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: of Ryan Tannehill where he has the excitement of a

743
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: nine year old boy. Oh, I'm going I'm going not under,

744
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: meaning it's going to be Ryan Tannehill solo shots all

745
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: day long. I love his enthusiasm. He's they're gonna be

746
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: getting killed in this game. Somber shots with Jim Nance

747
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and Phil and he's like, Jeam, the Dolphins have a

748
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: bright future with that guy on the sideline. Oh, very

749
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: very true. Phil. Uh, this is a tough game, geem.

750
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: But they'll be back with that man something like that.

751
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: If if I did not want to save my lock

752
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: for something else, I would even lock it up. That

753
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna see more than three shots of him looking morose.

754
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: I want to apologize, by the way, right before the

755
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: pod started, we were talking about lock of the week

756
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: and I did I I felt like I I shamed.

757
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: I was inadvertently or ahead of time, trying to shame people. Uh,

758
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: don't pick the Steelers because it's too easy a lock.

759
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: But I want to say, you lock them up if

760
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: you want West and I hold on, I just locked

761
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: up the Raiders with here's the problem there's three heavy

762
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: favorites this weekend, and and you guys both were locks

763
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: in the you have to have I took a road

764
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: team with no quarterback. That was I'm not sure what

765
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: happened he lock. I feel good about it, but it

766
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: feels like everybody's gotta live by a code with the

767
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: Lock of the Week. I wouldn't feel comfortable picking the Steelers,

768
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: but they are to me, the biggest lock of the week.

769
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: I was never tempted to pick the Steelers. I have

770
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: not liked from the beginning the idea and then a

771
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: segment called lock of the Week. You have to take

772
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: something that's like an underdog to happen, it does it seems.

773
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: I also, West would not bite the hand that feeds

774
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: you because the Lock of the Week made you an

775
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: Internet legend. Remember I don't even believe I'm an Internet

776
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: leg legend. I mean it, We'll all be gone. The

777
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: hand that feeds me already declared vengeance on me. I'm

778
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: not talking about myself. The segments like did Dan just

779
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: call himself the hand that feeds the rest of the room.

780
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: I kind of like this controversial. I mean the segment itself,

781
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: when you locked it up I've become a huge fan

782
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: of Lock of the Week. That's why I don't like

783
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: you putting all kinds of parameters. It's been very good

784
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: to you, the whole lock of the work. I'm just saying,

785
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: we're essentially once during the show. All right, so that's

786
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: the game. We all have the Steelers, correct, I'm yeah, okay,

787
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: let's move on. Uh sorry, Dolphins. Nice season though, and

788
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: you know your Dolphins fans coming at me. Oh you

789
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: know you talked about the Jets more than Dollins. You know,

790
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: deal with it, start your own podcast, get hold on.

791
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: The One thing I will say that is one fan

792
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: base that is sneaky, been through more seasons that they're

793
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: unpleasant than many many others. And there are a lot

794
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: of you know, our friend Handsome Hank is a Dolphins fan.

795
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be unhappy to see him smile

796
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: come the end of the weekend. It's well, given recent events,

797
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't want that. But I will tell you this, um,

798
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: it was a nice season for the Domins, even if

799
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: it winds in a less than glamorous And I've I've

800
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: heard a lot of this, like you know, no respecting

801
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: and no talking about like look, you got outscored by

802
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: twenty points this year. Both your offense and your defense

803
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: were less than league average. Like, go go in Week seventeen.

804
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: You know you got blown out by at home against

805
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: the one seed, So go do so respect comes in game?

806
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: You ever pull this kind of thing off the people

807
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: Dolphins in a completely different way? All right, you've talked

808
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: yourself into Matt Moore. Congratulations, that's quite a feat. Doesn't

809
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: mean the rest of us. I don't think Matt Moore

810
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: is their problem. I know that's crazy. I don't think

811
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: it's a that their quarterback play since the average Ryan

812
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Tannehill game and the average Macmore game has not been

813
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: much different. Period. Okay, I think Matt Moore's misthrows. I

814
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: do too, But I think people forget it's not going

815
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: from Big Ben to to Landry. Right. People forget the

816
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: first six weeks of the season when Ryan Tianna was

817
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: one of the worst five quarterbacks in the league. All right, yeah,

818
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: but then there was a large sample where he wasn't

819
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: also has the highest QBR in the red zone in

820
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: the league. Finally, let's call it the main event of

821
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: the wild card round. Uh, the number five seed New

822
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: York Giant Giants traveling to lambeau Field to face the

823
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: number four seeded Green Bay Packers, a game that features

824
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: a Giants team with arguably the league's best defense taking

825
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: on Chris Westling, a team in the Packers with a

826
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: quarterback playing uh at an all time level. Right now,

827
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: you gotta love it. So why don't we play west

828
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: one of our favorite games? Why to far? A matter

829
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: of trust? What do you got? Who do you trust?

830
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: And then you don't come after me? You know, people

831
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: with the with the infringement. There's no music. There was

832
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: just a man. Talk was spoken word. He was just reciting.

833
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't the alphabet. It was he was counting. Tell me,

834
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: tell me that they this, this can be We could

835
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: be sued for this. Tell me why you know? I

836
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to push that envelope too far. They may

837
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: have a case if it was just like one, one, two, three, four,

838
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: But when he's getting into one, I mean, that's that's

839
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: his own. That was pretty good. Anybody was feeling it.

840
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: Anybody want to take me on a prop that that

841
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: was singing? I was I think not singing. I don't

842
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: think it's all out and not singing. I I think

843
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: that the billy Joel Camp would say, it's a musical property.

844
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: What I don't think I'm qualified to weigh in on singing.

845
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: That was just amen counting, okay, well, alright, also potentially

846
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: something they could argue, why don't you join the rest

847
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: of them on the third floor? Mark with this attitude?

848
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: Be happy to that in my pocketbook? This is a

849
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: matter of pocket I don't know why I don't have

850
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: a pocketbook, Sorry, West, I do not. People don't even

851
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: say pocketbook. Let's let's in my wife's pocketbook. I mean,

852
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: I think we pegged West as wearing a petticoat a

853
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: few years ago, so all bets are off. I don't

854
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: even know what a petticoat is. Well, you wear one,

855
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: all right, West? A matter of trust? Go ahead? What

856
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: the hell's going on out here? Wow? That was timely.

857
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: It's in lambeau Field, Vince Lombardi, that's true? Alright? What

858
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: you got speaking of lambeau Field? Who do you trust?

859
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: A Giant's defense that has improved steadily and significantly throughout

860
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: the season shut down some of the best offenses in

861
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: the league, has the best secondary in the NFL, with

862
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year candidate Landon Collins, the best

863
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: cornerback duo in the NFL, Rogers Cromarty and Jack Rabbit.

864
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit versus or the run the table Packers with

865
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback playing at the height of his powers, Jordy

866
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: Nelson recapturing two thousand fourteen form, Jared Cook coming up big,

867
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: Davante Adams double digit touchdowns. Who do you trust? Which

868
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: this is? As Greg said, this is the best matchup possible.

869
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Who Giants? Who do you trust? The Giants defense versus

870
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: the Packers offense. Yes, it's a great question, especially the

871
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: passing game. I trust the offense almost implicitly in the

872
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: year two thousand and seventeen. This is an offense league.

873
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 1: You look at the NFC Packers, Falcons, Cowboys as great

874
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: as the Giants are. In a big spot like this,

875
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm always going to take a diverse offense like the

876
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: like the Packers. Forget about the running game. You don't

877
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: need the running game when you've got six different receivers

878
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: you can throw to. With Geronimo Allison and Jared Cook

879
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: and everyone in the mix, that's who. Yeah, I mean,

880
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: we're weeks weeks off of calling Green Bay the team

881
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: that no team in the NFC wants to play. Uh,

882
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: that you don't want to deal with if you're one

883
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: of the buy teams. That Aaron Rodgers is the you know,

884
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: the hottest quarterback in the league right now, physically U

885
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: short north of Matt Ryan. So I I trust the

886
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: Packers offense if you can't think the second hottest quarterback

887
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, you guys are coming at

888
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: it from a completely different angle than I am. So

889
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: do you want me to Shall I continue on to

890
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: answer football talent? Yes, white hot football talent. Okay, I

891
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: thought you were talking about the physical I go offense.

892
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they're going to score fifty points

893
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: on the Giants, but they're gonna take care of business.

894
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm going with the Packers offense only because

895
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: we're dealing with a historic player and Aaron Rodgers playing

896
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: at his peak. And the Giants have a very very

897
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: good defense. But I wouldn't call their defense historic. And

898
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: if this game was being played in New Jersey, maybe

899
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: I could talk myself into a little bit more. But

900
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: I think the fact that the Green Bay's last six games,

901
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: Rodgers has played the game at the position at a

902
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: level that few have ever matched. That's how good he's been. Uh,

903
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's matched him, by the way, But uh, in general,

904
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers has been almost a perfect quarterback in their building. Uh,

905
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: you know they're peaking at the right time. I gotta

906
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: go with the Packers offense. They're showing the Eagles highlights

907
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: up here. I would point out that they didn't even

908
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: shut down Carson Wentz when they lost the I thought

909
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: about that. I see this game more like the Steelers

910
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: game fourteen uh back in early December, where the Giants

911
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: simply didn't have the firepower to keep up and they

912
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: kept the Steelers in check for most of the game,

913
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: but still twenty four points is enough to beat the Giants.

914
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: I see this as the edge goes to the Packers.

915
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm with Greg, we haven't seen the defense in the

916
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: NFL this year that can shut down great offenses. Well,

917
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, that Eagles game is a tough one to

918
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 1: bring up. They still give up less than three hundred yards,

919
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: which is, you know, less than the leading team in

920
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: the league gives up on average. They've they've done their

921
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: job week after week, and and the matchup I'm kind

922
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: of fascinated to see is when it's third and long.

923
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: The blitz. I mean, they're the best blitzing team in

924
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: the league because Dan's boy Spags has just been cooking

925
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: it up because he knows those guys in the back

926
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: end can cover one on one. Jadoras, Jenkins, Rogers, Camardi.

927
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: They have depth there with Eli Apple, Leon Hall's you know,

928
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: made some place Aaron Rodgers number five against the blitz right.

929
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: So I want to because I think that that's what

930
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: the Giants do. I think they're gonna keep doing it.

931
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: I wish Jason Pierre Paul obviously was available for this game,

932
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: because if you're just looking top to bottom depth of talent,

933
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: the way that Vernon is playing right now, the way

934
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: that Snacks has played, Snacks might be the key to

935
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: this whole operation here. He has been playing so well

936
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: and you can't run on this team. This is this

937
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: Giants defense about as talented as they as they've ever

938
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: been when they don't. I don't want to sell the

939
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: Giants defense short either, because they have stopped great offenses

940
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to seven held the Cowboys the seven points

941
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: in the win held the Lions, who have had some

942
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: problems on offense recently, but to six points, and then

943
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: in the last week in weeks seventeen, the Redskins with

944
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: everything to play for at home. All right, listen, I

945
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: it's not that it's going to be some sort of

946
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: a wipeout. I think location, for me, has a lot

947
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: to do with this. This is in Green Bay. I

948
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: don't Aaron Rodgers at lambeau Field. His statistics are insane,

949
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: and I just don't see. If they can get a

950
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: couple of big plays in some early scores, how does

951
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: the Giants offense possibly keep pace with that? I don't

952
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't think because I guess if you're going to

953
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: make the case, it's because they're playing The Packers defense

954
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: is not a great defense. I mean, who gave up,

955
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, three hundred fifty plus yards to Matt Barkley,

956
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: who gave up the same to Sam Bradford. That that's

957
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: starting to marry Us Randall and you know, Darius Gunter.

958
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really see the Giants wanted to

959
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: get into a shootout, but the matchup is right for it.

960
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: The Packers would do well to get Eli Manning in

961
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: a shootout, right. He should have thrown another pick six

962
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: last week that Josh Norman couldn't hang on to this guy.

963
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you guys. Not one of you has

964
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: mentioned the yacht. You haven't mentioned you haven't mentioned Eli

965
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: what he did ten years ago, as if it has

966
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: anything to do with this game. Yeah, it means nothing

967
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: when he doesn't physically throw the ball as well as

968
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: he used to. Giants have good talent on offense. Sterling

969
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: Shepherd is a talent. He is electric with the ball

970
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: in his hands and has really not done a whole

971
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: lot this year because of his quarterback Odell Beckham should

972
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: have eighteen or nineteen hundred yards not But wouldn't you

973
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say in the win against the Lions and

974
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: the Redskins that and that's it's hard to play that

975
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: sort of way against Green Bay, but that that's the

976
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: way the Giants gotta win. They almost hit Eli Manning,

977
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: and they waited for him to make maybe one or

978
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: two throws at the end of each game, and you

979
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: know what he made them. I mean, he made a

980
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: very nice throw down the sideline last week to help

981
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: put it away. I believe. Who is that to Tavarus King?

982
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: I think? And and he did the same against the

983
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: Lions where he's got a running game. Suddenly you're playing

984
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: with fire scarecrow when you're asking Eli to make one throw.

985
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: Just because he did it two games doesn't mean he's

986
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: not throwing. He looks better when they have a running game,

987
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: and they have a running game, they do finally being

988
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: a total weakness. Let's be honest about what that running

989
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: game is. Though. It's a lot like the Packers running game,

990
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: where Time Montgomery's only effective out of the shotgun, Paul

991
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: Perkins is only used out of the shotgun. When they

992
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: go with the normal formation. Rasha Jennings comes in. I

993
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: now I will disappoint us. I think it does matter

994
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: that the Giants as an organization with Eli man any quarterback,

995
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: have twice as heavy underdogs went into Green Bay and

996
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: one games, and you know why not because it was

997
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: the same Eli physically and he's probably not that same

998
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: guy anymore. But the team believes they're not gonna be

999
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: intimidated at all because they're they're thinking to themselves, this

1000
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: guy turns it on in the in the in the postseason.

1001
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: He's done it twice in Super Bowl runs. He's kicked

1002
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers asked twice in his own building and I

1003
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: think that they they'll feed off that energy. And they've

1004
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: been hearing about it all week. Hey you you know,

1005
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: you know the Giants have had a you know success

1006
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: in Green Bay with Eli. I think they're gonna believe it.

1007
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: And I think that they're gonna play better than people

1008
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: expect because I do think Eli gets better in the playoffs.

1009
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that's some phony narrative. I think that's

1010
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: the numbers hasn't been there as he hasn't. He actually

1011
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: has the record for most most team games in a

1012
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: row between playoff appearances by a quarterback. Okay, he's also

1013
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: evaluate the game, not the name. He's also not he's

1014
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: I got you, but he's also I know everyone wants

1015
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: to throw him out of the league now. Actually, no,

1016
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: the only people who will say anything about Eli Manning

1017
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: bad Or in this podcast studio. Everyone else says, like

1018
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: you that because he went in the lambau Field when

1019
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: he was a much better quarterback, it matters, and that

1020
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: that's It's Other people are down on Eli right now,

1021
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: not not just you was you wouldn't know it on

1022
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: our network. I'm just said, well, that's just I'm just saying.

1023
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: Everybody's ready to throw this guy in the league. He's

1024
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: not forty three years old. I'm not ready to throw

1025
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: him in a league, and he's not making throw. I

1026
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: think he turned he just turned thirty six. We celebrate

1027
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: all these other guys and including big brother Peyton, who

1028
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: through for fifty five touch on at age thirty eight.

1029
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: I think it's premature to say that Eli Manning has

1030
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: done up one bad season. And I think it's premature

1031
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: with the weapons he has on offense that he could

1032
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: step up raise his game in this game and he

1033
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: plays like Eli Manning that people remember in January, and

1034
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: we can't argue it's not We're not looking back five, six,

1035
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: seven years to say that Green Bay has found a

1036
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: way to underperform when it matters most in January. It's

1037
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: not just the Giants games, it's every season. An incredibly

1038
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: talented team with a great quarterback is found a way

1039
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs and then that sticks. They still

1040
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: have the same coach, they have a lot of the

1041
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: same players. Defensive coordinator Will Will Will, They be able

1042
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: to get the ball back. I mean, I know it's

1043
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: Paul Perkins, but the Giants have done a nice job

1044
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: time of possession. Will they be able to pressure Eli.

1045
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews has been up and down, almost all down

1046
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: this year. It's not I think this Giants team is

1047
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: is almost fun to watch for the first time in

1048
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: a while. Eli Manning is an absolutely a supporting player.

1049
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: But the rest of his teammates, including Odell Beckham, who's

1050
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: who's right there with Rogers as the best player in

1051
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: this game, they're good enough to just win it. And

1052
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: I can't remember a team that had a poor Manning

1053
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: at quarterback in a great defense winning the Super Bowl.

1054
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: Oh wait, it was just last year. All right, let's

1055
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: pick the game. Let's pick the game. Mark despite what

1056
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: I just said, Packers give me a score. Let's get

1057
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: the scores in there. I'm gonna go twenty four. Okays,

1058
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Winter is here end up locking it up, not surprising,

1059
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: but Packers score four. I I'm not gonna go all

1060
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: in on Eli because I do think that he's shown

1061
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: enough where he could lay an egg again. So I

1062
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: won't pick the Giants, but I think it will be

1063
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: a close game, and I think the Packers advanced because

1064
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers does something special at the end of the

1065
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: game to get it done. Make it thirty to seven Packers.

1066
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm feeling good about this one for the Packers

1067
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: because we deserve it as football fans. I know the

1068
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: Giants are kind of fun to watch, but wouldn't you

1069
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: love to see Aaron Rodgers versus the Cowboys or maybe,

1070
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, depending on what else happens, Aaron Rodgers versus

1071
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. That would be so much fun, and I

1072
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: think we deserve it. Then I've got to lock it

1073
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: up too. Whoa, we're out of games double lock and

1074
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: and for the record, uh we are. I believe nineteen

1075
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: of our last twenty in the locks. If we can

1076
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: get out of this, well we won't because we were

1077
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: in a lock off Mark and I. But if we

1078
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: can get out of this three and one, well we're

1079
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: either gonna go three and one or it'll be a great,

1080
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: great moment for us that probably the four of us

1081
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: will remember nobody else. Lollipops for all of us. All Right,

1082
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited about the playoffs always, and now

1083
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: they're here, so that's good. Hey, before we go, I

1084
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: want to get on the phone an old friend, an

1085
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: old friend, not that old, but we've come to really

1086
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: admire this man, both for his his football acumen, his

1087
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: history is a beat scribe in the New York metro area,

1088
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: which is not easy, and most of all for having

1089
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: a mortgage. He is NFL media. Is Connor Or? What's

1090
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: going on? Everybody? Connor? Hey, buddy, what's gone? You get

1091
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: excited for a little playoff football this weekend? Oh? Sure, yeah,

1092
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, this is for all the marbles,

1093
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, this is when it gets excited. Is that

1094
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: an original phrase? All the marbles? I've never heard that before. Yeah,

1095
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: this is you know, It's just one of the things

1096
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: I do. Good stuff. So alright, so one of the

1097
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the things. It's one of the things I do.

1098
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: Referencing a parlor game from roughly, you know, seventy eight

1099
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: years ago. Um, I when Connor hits me up on

1100
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: our excuse me, our instant messaging Clint uh client or

1101
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: via text, I always respond as quickly as possible. Uh.

1102
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: It's like the bat signal being going being thrown up,

1103
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: and Connor said, Hey, something's going on. There's a big

1104
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: situation going on in my personal life. I want to

1105
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: share it on the pod. So I'm gonna throw it

1106
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: over now to Mr Or in his haunted mansion in

1107
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: New Jersey to explain to us what is the earth

1108
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: shaking news out of the ore camp. Uh in this

1109
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: the earliest days of two thousand seventeen. We're back on

1110
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: PlayStation baby, and we are bringing ship Kelly back. I

1111
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: mean this is this is white hot and everyone can

1112
00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: play along? All right? Now? Which which PlayStation? Uh? Unit?

1113
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: Are we talking about? Three? Place? That PS? So you're

1114
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: still on the PS three? I was with you. Uh,

1115
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: we were the last two PS active PS three users.

1116
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: I moved on Santa too, Kara Daddy got me a

1117
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: PS four. So now it's just you alone. Uh what's

1118
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: it like to be part of the p S three

1119
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: army that's really down to one man and scattered people

1120
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: across the country at this point. Well, it ended up

1121
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: being super helpful because, as you know, they stopped making, um,

1122
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: the college football video games due to the lawsuit, um

1123
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: the players lawsuits. So yes, that was unfortunately. Yeah, so

1124
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: I have the last one on PlayStation three, and um

1125
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly needed a job. He was talking about going

1126
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: back to college and e A Sports left up the

1127
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: Team Creator website from like two thousand thirteen, which allows

1128
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: you to still add franchises and The only school at

1129
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: the time with the vacancy were the my Not State

1130
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: evers of North Dakota and my Not I'm gonna quickly

1131
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: google them. My Not State. Our new motto is why

1132
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: not It's mine. Why Not State University is a four

1133
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: year institution of higher learning in my Not, Minnesota, founded

1134
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen thirteen as a normal school. My Not State

1135
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: University is the third largest university in North Dakota. Why

1136
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: don't we start right there a hot bed. Yeah, let's

1137
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: start right there, Connor, because you're Gonnat chip Kelly's taking

1138
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: over that program. He is, he's already kind of behind

1139
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: the eight ball in North Dakota in terms of recruiting,

1140
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: and he's the bronze medalist in North Dakota in terms

1141
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: of university prestige. Not only that, but just the battles

1142
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: in Southern Canada too. I mean that you really have

1143
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: to think about for sort of the best, uh the

1144
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: best football players there. But um, A nice thing about

1145
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: this the game, which is actually kind of sinister, is

1146
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: you can promise things to like these seventeen year old

1147
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: people that you're recruiting, and I just tell all these

1148
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: kids that we're going to win the National Championship in

1149
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: our first season. I guaranteed it. What do you what

1150
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: do you think about the the theory or fact that

1151
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: it's pronounced Mino State it was before Chip Kelly got

1152
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: to town. Rename it if you if you click the uh,

1153
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: if you click the little pronounce it button on Wikipedia,

1154
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I believe you might change you change a little soon

1155
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: there and are you going so you're you may be

1156
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: depending on if Wikipedia is correct or not, you might

1157
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: be changing the pronunciation of the university. Are you look

1158
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: prying to change the mascot which is the my not

1159
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: or Mino State University? Buckshot? Um? Right now, it's just

1160
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: a beaver and that's what we're going with. I think

1161
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: I think that works well for everybody. I think it

1162
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: kind of embodies Chip and his aggressive sort of burrowing offense.

1163
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: And we're going to do Yeah. I thought that um

1164
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: Connor was going to, you know, the recently married Connor

1165
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: announced that maybe a child was on the way. But

1166
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: this is much bigger news, much bigger development. This is

1167
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: the other side of the spectrum. This just shows how

1168
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: far away Connor is at that stage of this. At

1169
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: this point, I do want I one follow up question.

1170
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: I know in the past you said that. Uh. I

1171
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: think one of the reasons that you walked away from

1172
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: PlayStation slash video games not only because you're an adult,

1173
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: but secondly that you know, once you got married, the

1174
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: situation changed. Where do you play this? Like, are you

1175
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: in the living room? I thought you were out on

1176
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: the deck before or something that in the past out

1177
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: on a on a covered deck plane. Uh. This game

1178
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: very concerning. UM. I I sort of have well one

1179
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: of the rooms that kind of turned into my office,

1180
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: but it's also uh I called the laboratory where we

1181
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: sort of create and uh and and think about the

1182
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: next big ideas. And I will mention that if you

1183
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: go on the sports website, you can download the my

1184
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: Not State Beavers that I created play with them yourself. WHOA,

1185
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty fun if you have a PlayStation three. If

1186
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: you have and you're the only one who does. There

1187
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: there's scattered Americans and people across the world world many,

1188
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: it's not a concentrated group. At this point, I feel

1189
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: like we should just say, as a public service announcements,

1190
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: if you happen to be in the Mino or Not area. UM.

1191
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: The baseball teams hosting the inaugural MSU Baseball ice Fishing

1192
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: Tournament January twenty one. That Lake Audubon. I mean, if

1193
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: you're not there, get there. You guys are all laughing

1194
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: about my not state. You know who's from my not state?

1195
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: The actor Josh Duomo Dale Brown Shack O'Neil's former basketball

1196
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: coach Love Dale Brown, wasn't he in? Uh? What's that

1197
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: basketball movie nicknamed The Magic City or Little Chicago. Make

1198
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: sure you pitch that to the recruits, especially the kids

1199
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: from um the Chicago area. Hey, one last thing is

1200
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: what's the slogan again? Why not? It's my not I

1201
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: think the town, if they're pronounced differently, needs to get

1202
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: its act together. Rejigger the pronunciation to this, because the

1203
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: whole town, the whole community, could really take that slogan

1204
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: and run with it. I'm open for suggestions, but get

1205
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: at me. You know, I'm here, I'm I'm here doing

1206
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: doing them. I'm pumping them up. I want to bring

1207
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: them a national title and uh and and that's my goal.

1208
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: That there's what I'm gonna do. There's a lot of

1209
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: internet buzz out there, UM that you are mispronouncing the

1210
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: name of your university, that it actually is pronounced like

1211
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Ross Perro. So it's like my no, Well, uh, then

1212
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: someone should talk to Wikipedia because I've been working off

1213
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: of this. I've been working off of this knowledge for

1214
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: for about a week, and I've been very passionate about

1215
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: it, and and I'm not going to change my mind. All right,

1216
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: so's there's there's actually a lot of disagreement, Connor. I

1217
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: think I think the locals are with you, even if

1218
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: it's not technically correct. Okay, well that's that. That counts

1219
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: for a lot. Americans are known never to pronounce words

1220
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: with a French accent correctly. We don't do French accents. Well,

1221
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: I wish you the best of luck, Connor. We all

1222
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: do as you attempt to raise the my not university,

1223
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: uh state university into a superpower. I think it's gonna

1224
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: take a little bit more than just the promise of

1225
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: a college title. But don't undress met chip Kelly. He

1226
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: did build a giant at Oregon. We're hosting Alabama week

1227
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: one in my not. All right, there you go. There

1228
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: is the mouthpiece for the my not state University. Buck

1229
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: buck Shot. He always believes in chip Kelly. I'm not

1230
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: surprised they stays to believe, all right, Connor, thank you.

1231
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you later. You know what, But if

1232
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: the Brett Favre family can thumb its knows that the

1233
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: English language, then Connor can pronounce that college however he

1234
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: wants well, especially in this forum. It's it's very it's

1235
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: an not an unusual by the way corporate maneuver. It's

1236
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: called rebranding. And uh if Chip Kelly thinks that is

1237
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: what's gonna get the kids from South Florida, uh and

1238
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: southern California and all the great hotbeds in between, Um,

1239
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: to my not, that's what they're gonna do. Just makes sense.

1240
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That is our If anyone

1241
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: is still watching on Paris, that would be impressive. Thank

1242
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: you to Connor or for giving us a window into

1243
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: his very unusual life. Uh. The next time you will

1244
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: hear from us is Sunday night when we will recap

1245
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: all the games that we just previewed. So make sure

1246
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: you're there. That will also be periscope, so uh make

1247
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: sure there's still a lot of people. There's a lot

1248
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: of people. That's pretty decent number. Uh, So thank you

1249
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: everyone that's watching. And that's it for now. This is

1250
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: Dan Hans is signing off for Quiet Storm, The Malma,

1251
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: the Boss and I Seed slash new money behind the

1252
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: Glass Go Sunday m