WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Taco Time?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this he's Talking

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnard, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bruns, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome into Talking Cowboys on a Thursday, just an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half maybe before the start of Cowboys practice.

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<v Speaker 1>A morning practice today, the final on field work before

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys head up the one on one to San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco or fly to San Francisco to take on the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine or Saturday night in the preseason opener, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought, Kaden Gates and William Boykin's over

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<v Speaker 1>Yonder producing. Well, one more to go until we finally

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<v Speaker 1>get some game action. You're gonna stop at the Hearst

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<v Speaker 1>Castle on the way up, you know it always. I

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<v Speaker 1>love history like that, Yeah, I love to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Getty Museum, all those places. This state is really

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome for all the things that they do have

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<v Speaker 1>that you can kind of go and see. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta you're driving. Yeah, I mean the bone Crusher

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<v Speaker 1>or head and head bone Crusher, you know, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get pictures of you all the way up like

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<v Speaker 1>every other mile. Just this is kind of a behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes And again, I know people are probably tuning

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<v Speaker 1>in to let's talk, let's talk about argue about players

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But James, you know, the bone Crusher is

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<v Speaker 1>the team photographer, right, and so you know he's so quiet, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking I rode with him last year. He

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<v Speaker 1>rode with me, and I'm thinking, boy, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be five hours of me listening to music and not

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<v Speaker 1>saying a word, you know it just kind of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pull man the other nice. Yeah he can. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he talked. I know we we we left here

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<v Speaker 1>at ten am and we got to got to the

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<v Speaker 1>gate there at the Levi Stadium and he's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the ride. Yeah time he is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're thinking, okay, I'm gonna have to pound like two

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<v Speaker 1>of those red bulls, which I only Drake would I

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<v Speaker 1>have to, you know, and have to drive and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of keep alert. But he I'm thinking he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say a word, and he, James, he talked the whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire time, and I you know, and I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sitting there like, Wow, this is something I would

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<v Speaker 1>have not expected for the listener. Bone Crusher is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the nicest people you'll ever meet. James Smith, team photographer, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>long time team photographer for any save stories by the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's, oh my god, she mild manner. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>say a whole lot. Yeah. Usually I think every picture

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<v Speaker 1>I have over these years from training camp and offseason workouts,

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<v Speaker 1>they're from him because he catches these candid shots, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no idea he's shooting, and he takes the time to

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<v Speaker 1>send him to ye. But yeah, he got a picture

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite pictures, and this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the the brag picture. He got a picture of me

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<v Speaker 1>and Troy Aikman talking one time in Philadelphia on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I always to get on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I'd be standing in Kansas City looking at

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<v Speaker 1>wind direction. We're both looking up like fools at the

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<v Speaker 1>flags and stuff. But he got a picture of me

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<v Speaker 1>like talking with Troy Aikman, and it's like Aitman's like

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, I got my arms cast. I'm like really

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<v Speaker 1>intently listening. It's one of my favorite pictures because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm really like locked in what's going on game day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and all that little intensity there. But Aitman

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<v Speaker 1>was probably telling me about a good rib place he

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<v Speaker 1>had been to down the road. You know what he

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<v Speaker 1>did during the Blue White scrimmage he wasn't here for

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing the TV. He took a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>the TV me interviewing Jerry Steven. I can't remember which

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<v Speaker 1>it was that he send it to me. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Did James do Proud Brian was? No, No, somebody did

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<v Speaker 1>the best shot ever off television that was off TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. That that's enough to make you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go on soda diet right there, that Proud Brian moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get a skinnier pri Brian privant moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, it's people are very creative out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I admire people that are very creative. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I speaking of creative, they had a creative roster here

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of these guys. They absolutely do. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna take a closer look at it today

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<v Speaker 1>as they get closer to preseason action and evaluate a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys down the ninety Man roster. Yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's quickly recap what we saw on Wednesday out here

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<v Speaker 1>only a few hours ago, but you know, twelve hours

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<v Speaker 1>ago a little more than that. Um, what stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to you a practice first fight, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it. Todd Archer took credit for that one. He

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<v Speaker 1>jinks that one scared at that in the press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't looked like the first round of a heavyweight fight too,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of danced around and through that air, and

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody broke it up. I'll tell you what. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a baseball fight. I'll tell you what. It was

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<v Speaker 1>funny about their fighting wings. Yeah, Joe Looney, Joe Looney

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<v Speaker 1>was the one who started the fight because he was

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<v Speaker 1>playing guard for Zach Martin yesterday and he got a

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<v Speaker 1>shot like Lale Collins was on, you know, on Triston Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tristan Hill didn't see it coming, and Joe Looney

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<v Speaker 1>kind of took a nice little rib shot on him

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<v Speaker 1>and knocked him on the ground, and Lyle Collins was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of over the top of Hill, and Hill pops

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<v Speaker 1>up and he and you know, Joe Looney kind of

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<v Speaker 1>disappears off into the off back into the huddle, and

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<v Speaker 1>Hill comes up swinging and and uh and in Collein's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna swing at me, I'm swinging back. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was there was a little bit of that going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's the first rule, you know, tot to

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<v Speaker 1>toe that we've seen as far as guy's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting upset with each other. It's been building. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it had happened sooner in that because you could see

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of hits so that were level that weren't

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be hit, and it's like, Joe Thomas is

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<v Speaker 1>that guy? Oh he hit that was yesterday. Joe Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>hit hit Pollard. They run that thirty seven off the

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<v Speaker 1>edge and thirty seven to run play and and and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Thomas coming from inside bam like face to face

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<v Speaker 1>and you see Pollard kind of snap a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was right in front of us, so as

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<v Speaker 1>we were there on that sideline area. So yeah, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas is kind of a sneaky hitter. Him and march Lillard.

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<v Speaker 1>March Lord's another one of those. He'll kind of work

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<v Speaker 1>his way through and boom, get a little shot and

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of go off to the side. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's no big deal. Let you know you're here. Yeah, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just gonna hit you high today. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Heath do that to you too, Jeff Heath run up

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll get and he'll he'll run into a pile

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll he'll find that angle and book hitch it

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<v Speaker 1>and then kind of go off to the side. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I touched up. Yeah, touched up tag two below. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was the tenth tenth practice after ten practices, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can see a game on the horizon. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle said, after practice, it's gonna come out. Ye hit

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<v Speaker 1>on each other enough times and something's gonna happen. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a big deal. Quick. Could I give some practice

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<v Speaker 1>credit to somebody to my left right here? Yeah. Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>Spagnola told you yesterday that if you're not getting on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus, if you're on the injury bus and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting healthy and you're not being out there to participate,

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<v Speaker 1>they we're going to leave you at the station. He said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>two guys, get ready, and he called the two guys

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<v Speaker 1>that were on the road. So I don't always give

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<v Speaker 1>them a man Tom left a lot of credit, but

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<v Speaker 1>he called that one right there very nicely. For you

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<v Speaker 1>right there, because I think that's where we're at right

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<v Speaker 1>now with camp. You said ten practice is in rob

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not. And again there's guys out there like

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin and Crawford and those guys of course the starters,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're a guy that's a down the line

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<v Speaker 1>type of a player, they don't have any more time

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<v Speaker 1>for you. The days of waiting in OTAs and we're okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's fine. Nope, we're getting ready for games. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid for preseason games, we're getting ready for regular

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<v Speaker 1>season games. We gotta cut this thing from ninety to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three. If you're not part of the mix, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Lance Lenore. I know you have a banged

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<v Speaker 1>up knee and you can't participate, but we're moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>Rico Gathers, we're moving on. We don't have time for

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<v Speaker 1>you anymore. And they were light at guard anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>I still let him go because you know, we got practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm practicing, right, can't help him. Expendable can't be injured.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, That's that's a great line. Expendables can't get hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry if you do. And it happens, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it either got to push through it or expect

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's going to happen. And they end up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having to bring it to see what they're

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<v Speaker 1>worried about getting through the game. The game, and you

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<v Speaker 1>got to have extra guards. And they needed another tight

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<v Speaker 1>end because Witten's not playing right, the rico wouldn't have played,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they bring in a tight end that, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, he's been in the league. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is his fifth since twenty fourteen, so five years. This

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<v Speaker 1>is his sixth and he's on his eleventh roster move

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of teams brought him back twice. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good tight end at Missouri right scouting report,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the second leading receiver in twenty thirteen when

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<v Speaker 1>they went to the SEC championship game against Auburn and

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<v Speaker 1>one quarter away from the National championship game. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>he had fifty eight catches, the leading receivers with Dorieo

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham and he had fifty nine. So he was But

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't stuck. He's been practice squad, practice squad, practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad. I mean, at some point and some you

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<v Speaker 1>would give up at some point you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in shape and then do what it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>be that workout was a little tough for him yesterday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Usmyer was kind of pushing right. Us does a drill

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<v Speaker 1>where he grabs you like it's it's an old Tim

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<v Speaker 1>crumb Right used to do this drill for the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals when used to go on the road with Tim

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle. He might remember he broke his leg in

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl and and he uh, crumb Right used

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<v Speaker 1>to grab guys and wrestle with them, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he would like make you mad, wrestle with you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he'd throw them off. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, here goes crumb Right. He's gonna piss this

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<v Speaker 1>guy off. And and Nussmyer was doing the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he was kind of jerking this guy

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit, and I was thinking, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not good. You know, you need to sit

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<v Speaker 1>down hill, little power and all that. But yeah, Mickey's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the guy has talent. The problem is, though, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just never been able to kind of get over

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<v Speaker 1>the hump to get onto a team consistently or make

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty three man roster, Marcus Lucas, Marcus R. Lucas,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus I'm not sure, is it Marcus Lucas, Marcus Lucas.

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<v Speaker 1>I think yes. He was wearing number eighty right, he

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<v Speaker 1>will be wearing I gotta admit it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>weird not seeing Rico number eight a little shorter eighties

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Yeah, yeah, a little bit, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else did they sign offensive lineman? Go ahead, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Bushell beat that. Bushel beat yeah, Juan Juan Bushell Beatty

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<v Speaker 1>from Michigan. And then they've also before that they did

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<v Speaker 1>they also had uh Lucas, Lucius McNeil. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, these are guys you probably have

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<v Speaker 1>liked to have seen during OTA's mini camps and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Mickey's talking about, guys are getting banged up,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys aren't practicing. You know. That's that's hard that

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you know. You can't have the expendables great word, Mickey,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, expendables can't be you know, be on

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<v Speaker 1>the sidelines with us doing training camp live. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the training camp live action for us

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<v Speaker 1>to have an opportunity for this team to evaluate him

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<v Speaker 1>to just remember there's two thousand, eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>players on roster. Quick math, right there, I did it

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<v Speaker 1>right quick, Yeah, and these guys who didn't have a job. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what you're at. But you never know George

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<v Speaker 1>Selvey shows up. But that is one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>all time signings by a pro department in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>of getting a guy on on July thirtieth and then

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<v Speaker 1>making him and what he did for the Dallas calbum.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's been out here helping out too. I like

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<v Speaker 1>George Selvey. I think he'll be a great coach one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Now times Powell at least has played games in this

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<v Speaker 1>league and has played for christ Rah Shard, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>throwing him out there. You see him. Yeah, he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>some reps and the one on one stuff and all

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<v Speaker 1>that and some of the team stuff. He's actually getting

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<v Speaker 1>reps as well. Corner corner number forty five. I've been noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching him. He's he's a guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>could understand why he was initially on the street, not

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<v Speaker 1>for poor play, but for that what I was worried

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<v Speaker 1>about with a little bit worried with with my guy

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<v Speaker 1>h thirty two Donovan Alumba, that that is he a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that gets close and can't make the play? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he one of those guys? And we've seen that he

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<v Speaker 1>can cover, he can move, he could turn. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taking advantage of the guys like Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>know or taking advantage of Reggie Davis has taking advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of them a little bit though, So you know, got

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<v Speaker 1>to get in the flow of things here. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>four preseason games. But boy, that is a really really

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<v Speaker 1>deep group of cornerbacks that they just threw him into

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<v Speaker 1>right there. And CJ. Goodwin decided there there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be CJ. Goodwin all of sudden seeing guys

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<v Speaker 1>make plays and all of a sudden makes the business

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<v Speaker 1>decisions like you know what, Britt I feel, Jim, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel pretty good. They might be eighty five percent, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's gonna go out there practice because we

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<v Speaker 1>made We talked about this yesterday. The sixth corner Donovan Alumba,

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<v Speaker 1>who who is that? Goodwin Alumba, you know, Jackson. These

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<v Speaker 1>are all possibilities right there because that is a very

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<v Speaker 1>very deep group. By the way, Mike White might have

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<v Speaker 1>made the best throw I've seen him making Oxnard yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>against C. J. Goodwin. Yeah, finally threw it down the field. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was it the blue period, right, he hit he

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<v Speaker 1>hit um John Vay Johnson. Then he came back and

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<v Speaker 1>hit Cedric Wilson and was started for him. He threw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball much better yesterday. I'm hoping that that that

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of gets him going. You know, cut it loose,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike White. T shirts need to be made right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, hopefully because you do see the town.

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<v Speaker 1>He made it. He threw a slant throw. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking Mickey to john v Johnson. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>freaking rocket. I mean, I mean it was like got

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<v Speaker 1>the snap ball out of hand, Johnson on the brake

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the corner, snatch up the field. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike White. That's what I've seen from you before. I

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<v Speaker 1>need you to kind of play with that kind of pace.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're watching the Saturday preseason game, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you gotta pay attention to. These types of guys, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>the backup quarterbacks. Yeah, that's that's especially I've a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that's with Brad Sham and I'll be focusing on quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, like what guys moving the team. Jason Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>was nice enough to tell us, you know, hey, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at a quarterbacks, this is how you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of evaluate them. In and out of the huddle, communication,

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<v Speaker 1>helping the team finish. Those are all the things you

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<v Speaker 1>need to kind of look for. If the quarterbacks are

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<v Speaker 1>doing those things, then we're having a success at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, then now think about other guys that might Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you got an answer from Jason Witten

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<v Speaker 1>about that moment he had with Vander Eshtice. I only

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<v Speaker 1>jumped ahead of the fine reporter across from me because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you were going to ask that question. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a feeling you might ask that question. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that make that observation a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you asked it, because, um, that's interesting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that's that's things you can see at camp.

0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.840
<v Speaker 1>M Vanderesh not everybody gets to see. Vanderesh was interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the route. Vanderesh was like, Okay, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how did you run that route? How did I felt?

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<v Speaker 1>I felt you run the route, but how did you

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<v Speaker 1>run it? And so and Jason went was very complimentary

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<v Speaker 1>towards Layton Vandersh, who's not very complimentary. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>great bus out there by the way. That family. I

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<v Speaker 1>need that. It's blue and orange. I'm all about that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I need a bus. Yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 1>go to all the races I want to. We're riding

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<v Speaker 1>that bus. But yeah, I think to me that that

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<v Speaker 1>with he was very complimentary towards Vanderish, but he appreciates

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Vandersh wants to learn that Vandres, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not often you get to cover a Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame tight end down the field and and try and

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<v Speaker 1>do your very best to keep him from the football.

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<v Speaker 1>A matter of fact, he covered a Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>tight end on then out route yesterday to the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>of quick pass they tried to get to UH to

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<v Speaker 1>Witten and Vandersh knocked the ball down. So any time

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<v Speaker 1>that he could get that kind of coverage where a

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<v Speaker 1>guy's leaning on him and and and trying to separate

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<v Speaker 1>and the routes and he could learn as he's going along,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that those kinds of UH opportunities are

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<v Speaker 1>are great. And but Witten just explained that, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the fact that he wants to learn, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be better, and those are the kinds of things

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<v Speaker 1>he goes. I'm more than willing to help a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like that, especially those kinds of things. Marinelli's favorite line

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<v Speaker 1>right when he asked him about it. The guy, especially

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran, it's like, does he know it all? Or

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<v Speaker 1>does the man still want to learn? Right? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good sign for a young guy that has

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie season that he had, but he understands there's

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<v Speaker 1>still ways to go. All right, let's take our first

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<v Speaker 1>break when we come back. Yes, we'll check in with periscope.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what the fans absolutely cook in with us.

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<v Speaker 1>They're with us today, they're with us, and we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys with a morning practice today, lining up, getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to line up. Fans were lining them, mother, Yeah, that's good,

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<v Speaker 1>this week and then today three just us next week Monday, Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and the Hawaii and then Hawaii although there's a

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<v Speaker 1>well they won't be open tomorrow. It's a walk through,

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<v Speaker 1>right correct? All right? Uh? Recapping Wednesday's practice, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to highlights a certain guy on defense who's been

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<v Speaker 1>showing up lately. Look at air if you can see that,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that in capitol letters, that's at least sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>point right, Taco Taco. You know I wrote about him

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<v Speaker 1>as well, Mickey, but I wish we had the drops

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<v Speaker 1>right Yeah, yeah, michiean Kit But Kaden, I love what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing too. Drops here, I don't think drops throw

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it throw it on him. Yeah, no, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>started on the one on one drills and and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I understand the majority of those snaps he

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<v Speaker 1>had that he won on was against Cameron Fleming. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they got into team he was he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a good job. Absolutely. You know, maybe if he just

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<v Speaker 1>stays away from having to go against Tyrn Smith all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I think there's a lot of defensive ends

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to do that like you're out a

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<v Speaker 1>count in line and go okay. I asked for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the for the pre for the pregame show on

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<v Speaker 1>TV on Saturday. Scott Purcell wanted me ask Tristan Hill

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<v Speaker 1>a question and it turned into you're looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he wanted to go You're looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going. He goes, yeah, I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>going against somebody sites Tyren Smith. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. He's just just yeah, he wants to get

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<v Speaker 1>away from that big guy. But Taco in two days

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<v Speaker 1>ago and team and absolutely he played well, Yes he did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not blowing smoke. And now I want him

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<v Speaker 1>to be excited about playing well. Yeah, like don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>get a sack fumble and just mo mosy back to

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<v Speaker 1>no jump up in the air, you know, enjoy yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been beating down Brian Bross is beating and

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<v Speaker 1>he's starting to show and he needs to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with Okay, there's no DeMarcus Lawrence out there, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no Robert Quinn out there, there's no Tyron Crawford out there. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of the guy. Let's go. I'm not around

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<v Speaker 1>him as much as the coaches are, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying, but there's part of me,

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<v Speaker 1>as somebody who's kind of has kind of a laid

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<v Speaker 1>back demeanor himself. You can be a little misunderstood when

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way you carry yourself. I get it. It's football,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to show what passion emotions. I get

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it's fair but fair, but you know, to a certain degree,

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:19.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's just kind of how he is. It doesn't

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>mean he doesn't care. You know. Well, if he thinks

0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a hot boys, then let's let's let's go. Let's

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>get hot, let's go. You know. But it's kind of

0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 1>segue to you guys, and I appreciate me. That's a

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>great analogy, not analogy, great analysis of what Taco did yesterday,

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>because you're right he there was times they were running

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.119
<v Speaker 1>that quick game going out out the right side and

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Tacco was chasing from the back side like you could.

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Dak Prescott when he let it go, he

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 1>was here in Taco breathed to him. That's how close

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.520
<v Speaker 1>he was. Well, he's the one that screwed up that

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 1>flee flicker. He did, and he also kind of jet

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 1>sweep when they tried to run it, and he got

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>up the field real quick on that too. So give

0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>him credit for that one thing. He said the other day, Um,

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.640
<v Speaker 1>he'll play anywhere, but he doesn't. He did say he's

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>comfortable on the left side. That's where he started his career,

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>right Michigan. Yeah, Yeah, and played a little behind the law.

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess his first rookie year. I think that's a

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:13.879
<v Speaker 1>better spot for him. I mean, is there what's the difference?

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what? To me, it makes sense. It makes

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>sense to him mentally because he's used to play in

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the run because he's not He's not one of those

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.160
<v Speaker 1>guys that you would say is a blur coming off

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the right side, those you know when you talk about

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the Quinns and the guys like that that could really rush.

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Taco is more of it. He has to kind of

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.479
<v Speaker 1>think his way through, and he when he's thinking, then

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>he's not making moves and he does the spin and

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 1>he gets himself, like Mickey says, in trouble because he

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>goes too early on the spin. If he could find

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a way to win more to the edge, win more

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to the edge without spinning, didn't get a little confidence,

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>he could become a better right end. He could because

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 1>he could give some people trouble with his length. The

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>problem is, though he doesn't use his link to get

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to the next move because he's thinking, I gotta spin,

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and these guys know, like Mickey said, he's gonna spin

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>right into someone being really patient blocking him so he's

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>got to learn more to get work more to the corner,

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>get to the corner, dip below, keep his balance and

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.919
<v Speaker 1>then go get there, you know. And that's weird because

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>yesterday and the one on one that's from the right

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>success was from the right side. Yeah, right side. And

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I was watching in the team period because he was

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>going against Fleming. Yeah, but that's where he and then

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>when he went to the left side, he lost his feet.

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going, Okay, maybe it's just got to be

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on the right side. Balance is bad at times when

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Taco is bad. Maybe he has small feet or something.

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>He's bow legged. He can walk over he is he

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>can walk over fire hydrant and never know it. You know,

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I just walk over fire riding, you know. But he's

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>longer clates something. Robert Quinn had that problem too early

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>in camp. Okay, this is kind of segues to big Daddy,

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Big Daddy reeves. I like that, all right, Big Daddy,

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Big Daddy reeves up. He wants to We talked a

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>lot about Taco, but could Joe Jackson, oh have a

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>better San Francisco game than Taco. I was gonna start

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>this was a question before this was what we were

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>always I was gonna start my game with Joe Jackson. Okay,

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>well maybe why is that? That's a good one? Huh,

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>why is that? I'm gonna name the game first, get

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>what's the name? What's the name of the game. It's

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>called up the one on one, Mick on the one

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>on one? Who needs to bring their game up? The

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>one on one from Oxnard to San Francisco and really

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>stand out. I need to bring my game. I know that. Yeah,

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>we all do. I'm guessing Joe Jackson will get more opportunities. Yeah,

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's gonna play a lot, don't you think.

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he is. And now he needs to take

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>advantage Taco. But if he gives Taco gets a couple

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>of series, I go on the right, maybe Joe Jackson

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>on the left, Armstrongs are gonna play. Armstrong will play

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>two that might need to be bad if they get

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>those two young guys kind of going at it. San

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Francisco has had some problems with some injuries, but kind

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of like this team. But yeah, if you can, if

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you can kind of get those guys going for a

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of series, maybe a quarter. Yeah, we see Armstrong

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>and and Taco get after it a little bit, and

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>then we'll see some of the guys getting vault. But

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>if you had to kind of crystal ball it, maybe

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe one guy has four tackles or three tackles or

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>a pressure. Who in your crystal ball are you're gonna say? Oh,

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I think this guy is gonna between Taco and Joe Jackson.

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm really looking. That's that's from our periscope, by

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the way, and thank you to the question, Uh big

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Daddy Reeves. I'm thinking Joe Jackson because I think he

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>might play well into the second half. Oh yeah, he's

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna play a lot, maybe more than Taco. Yeah, it'll

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>be him and Jelks maybe that whole second half. Yeah

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that's another guy you like too. Yeah yeah, And and

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>what are you seeing from him? But it's like it's

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>like these are these are the times you've got to

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>show up. You know, you can do the stuff out

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>in practice. And Jason was saying Jason Garrett was saying

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it yesterday in the press conference. But when the lights

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>come on now, is are they too bright for you?

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.479
<v Speaker 1>You're ready to shine? And these are their opportunities. That's

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>why these games are important. I understand. You know, the

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>stars aren't out there playing, and I know they're important,

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about winning and losing. But watch these young guys.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Watch these young guys, Tristan Hill, I bet they wear

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>him out. Yeah, you know he he doesn't. He doesn't

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>get veteran you know, responsibility out there like okay, you

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>had a series, you're out now. I'll tell you he's

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna play. I'll tell you a guy who this is

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>important too. To Mickey's portant, I know it might not

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>be part of your game. Bret Maher, No, we'll keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Brett Maher Yeah. I mean you talked about even though

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he's the incumbent and they don't have anybody waiting to

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>challenge him right now. In my opinion, this this you know,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.719
<v Speaker 1>they're very patient with him right now, probably a lot

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>more patient than Brian brought uses. But I see this

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>is there's some trends going on here. And if you

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>talk to you know, Keith o quinn, the Special Team's coach,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>he'll tell you, wa wait, we chart all this stuff.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>They've been happy, we've been happy with him. There's stuff

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>in practice that we don't see. But when you do

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 1>see it on the line. They're driving the ball. It's

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a chance for a win in a two minute situation,

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and you don't make it. That's what we see. I'm sorry,

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't get to watch. I'm over here watching. I'm watching,

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>h you know, Reggie Davis trying to make this football

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 1>team over on field two. I'm sorry, you're over here

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>on field one kicking field goals. Okay, maybe I should

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 1>go over to field one and pay more attention to that.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>But but this is important. This game is important for

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Brett Maher because these guy guys like

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>me talking about that this is a bad trend of

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>him missing these field goals in these types of situations. Yeah.

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>The best thing he's got going for him, though, is

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>there's nobody out there. Yeah, unless you want some of

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>those the Chicago Bears have gone through. They've probably gone

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>through a half dozen kickers. After what happened at the

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>end of that playoff game. Well, I mean, there's always

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>got to be somebody out there who's kicked in the

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>league at some point. Right now, that's not a morning

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to the folks that have been watching. I know who's

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>out there, I know, but I mean just that's my

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>next question. I'm gonna go up to Alex Loomis and go,

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you got a kicker. I mean, well, he's a great

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>job with all the stuff they bring in, but he's

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like a get a kicker. Yeah. I mean there's only

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty two of these jobs, so I mean there's you know,

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of guys who have whether they're good

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and reliable is another. A lot of teams have two though, Yeah. Yeah,

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and this team relies on tight, close games more than anybody.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Thirt say, thirteen to the sixteen came down to a

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>touchdown or less. Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean this coach has

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>been good this career, his career here, he's had a

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of wins when it's been really, really really close,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of wins. Yeah, it's a good point. You

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>know what he's been. He's been okay in those close games.

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>The only one I can remember missing was the one

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>against Washington, and that's the three he made it. Yeah,

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they moved him back and it hit the upright.

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>It was more down the stretch. He missed the field

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>goals down the stretch. It's like the middle of game

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can't miss. You can't miss an extra point.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I just would hate this coaching staff to lose their job.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>And Rob said it the best this division can hinge

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>on one game, and you don't want to have a

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>chance to beat the Washington Redskins in Washington and have

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>another situation where you miss a field goal and it

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>costs you and then then at the end of the

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>day or at the end of the season, it's okay.

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Now you got to go on the road and play

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>at or instead of being at home and playing a

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>game that's I don't think it's very good. You know.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>That's why Jason answered that question the way he did yesterday.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>We got to give him more opportunities to continue to

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>try and improve because he knows there's nothing else out there.

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't and they don't hear any confidence in there's

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>redfing So yeah, so they're right about that. So if

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and he kicked what five or six yesterday, But it

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>has not been consistent overall in camp for the most part.

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>So if over four preseason games, if there's a kick

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.959
<v Speaker 1>to be made, it's Maher kicking it. Let's hope absolutely.

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Maher didn't last year in the San Francisco game, Maher

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>missed the field goal at the end. Then San Francisco

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>took the ball and drove the length of the field

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>for the game winning touchdown. I don't recall that. I

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>trust you, Yeah that happened. If I could be part

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of the game here do it again? They want to know, Okay,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about bringing your a game. Jordan Lewis pushing Anthony Brown?

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Do either one of those guys need to bring a

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>game or do we know enough about them? They're both

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on the team. They're on the team. But but as

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>he pushing is okay? Then about this question? Then, is

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis pushing Anthony Brown for more playing time for

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that sycle side? I mean, just judging off what we see,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>there are times when you know they're going three corners

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>out there Lewis as at the right cornerback spot and

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Brown will go inside. But they flipping it almost daily.

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>No I'm saying. But I'm saying, is that an indication

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that maybe there is a little bit of a competition

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>there for who's the third corner Byron Jones? Before Byron

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Jones is starting week one a woozier on the left side,

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>your nickel is going to be Anthony Brown. That's what

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I think this. I think that's why the question was asked.

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I would lean towards that as well, but I'm just saying, hey, hey,

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Jordan had a pick yesterday and seven one. He's he's

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>been guy here competing and playing well so and against

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>some really good receivers too. I talked to him yesterday

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and he just kind of went down the line of

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.719
<v Speaker 1>guys you're having to line up against every day. Gallop

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>in those guys, some of the young guys, Tavon Um.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a good depth battle there. I know

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you like Anthony Brown, but I think we all like

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown. Lewis is a guy that has taken advantage

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of his snaps when he's gotten him. They've been kind

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of few and far between, though. Yeah, Mickey, Mickey's staying firm.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna he's not gonna give up on Anthony Brown. Player. Okay,

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>no argument, but either way it works out. It's a

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>very good fourth corner in case somebody gets hurt absolutely

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>or if Byron Jones isn't ready to go, but it

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>sounds like he's getting close. I was talking to the

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>guy that they have um that Byron brought in. He

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>works him out as a cornerback, not physically, but and

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>he said he's really and everything that that they could

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>expect him to do this recent from hip surgery. So

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a good sign. You mentioned Reggie Davis, Brian, Yeah,

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he comes to mind as a guy like one with

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the lights coming on, because I just always go back

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to Andy Jones a few years ago as Jones that

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>out here, oh my, all Valley Ranch, all Ranch, all

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Oxenard lights come on. It's a little bit of a

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>different story. And Reggie Davis has been among the more

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>impressive receivers we've seen in camp just in terms of

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>catching everything. His top line speed. What do you think, Mick, Yeah, absolutely,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Davis, John Vay Johnson, Jalen Guiten, Cedric Wilson. You

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>can put all four of those guys in that boat

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to take Tavon Austin out, you think, No, I'm not

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>sure about that. But if they keep six, then there's

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>there's four guys right there for two spots. See this

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>is where now I see if they keep Tavon Austin

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>as is he the fifth guy? Because you probably feel

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like that they're gonna keep to keep your big wide

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>receiver there, Noah Brown. I have my doubts on that

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>right now? Do you really? Why? Okay? I'm just can

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we go? Here we go? This will be fun, and

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>this will be fun because if Noah Brown stays because

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a big body guy and special teams and all that

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>because they like him and all. Okay, I agree with you,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>because you're right. But did he cut you off coming

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the Star parking lot one day or something? No? No, no, no,

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>what happened? Here we go? No? Wait, tell me what

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>he's done? See, that's that's he's not wrong. But see

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>do you see them keeping two undersized receivers? If you

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Tavon and Reggie, do you see them do it? That's

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>why I've been saying all camp, Reggie Davis has got

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>to show you something on punt return, something else, to

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>stand out in a role, because somebody's got to beat

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Tavon Awsome. Because I don't think Mickey, I don't disagree

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>with you about Noah Brown, but I'll say this though,

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown is like gum on their shoe. He's not

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>coming off the shoe, and he's he's you talk to people.

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>He's pretty, not pretty, he's entrenched. He's entrenched in there,

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and and there's a lot of there's a lot of

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>guys like you just named him all you named all

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>those young wide receivers, and I oft, let me tell

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you another thing is gonna happen. And and suddenly Cedric

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Wilson's wis in the bear and I could play in

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>the slide. Let me tell you this though. Get ready,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you can start asking these coaches questions about these receivers

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're not gonna tell you anything about it, right,

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>because what's gonna happen. We're getting closer to the we'll

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>get closer to the cuts and say they play well

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>or they're practicing well, yes, Sanjay lyle about these receivers.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>They're doing okay, it's hiding time. They're doing okay, they

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>do not It's like it's like been Bloom talking about linebackers,

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>young guys doing well. Well, what about what about Hally Hall.

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>He's learning, he's getting better. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>no there's no early in camp. It's like, yeah, we're

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>really excited. Da da da dah. Now it's like he's good,

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>he's doing fine, he's learning. Yeah, he plays because because

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to be the guy that all of a sudden,

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>some he's in New Orleans. That guy in New Orleans

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>watches everything, reads everything. Well there's a ten man practice squad. Yeah. Yeah,

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>like they trust us. No, I don't think they do. No.

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean the people in New Orleans when we talk

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 1>about Rachie Davis. Oh, let me tell you this, Sean

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Payton knows we're smart. Sean Payton, I can't. I can't

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>tell you how many times and again that's my relationship

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>with him. Well, you guys do a good job down there.

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I love training camp. I love guy and the guy

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia that does radio for him, and the analyst,

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the former player Mike Quick, Mike my Quick? Was it

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Mike Quick? It's Merrill reason Mike Quick? Okay? And I

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I was with the follow me on Twitter. I was

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>with him on the elevator at at and Stadium at

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and T Stadium going up and he turned it and

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, we're and I saw his badge and interview.

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I know who you are. He goes, we

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>we I listened to your guys podcast. You guys do

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful job. And I'm going, oh, okay, So yeah,

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you should. You should hire somebody out of your staff.

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Your responsibility is check out everybody else's whip. I'll tell

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>you what, man, the head coach of the Saints has

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>called me about that training camp live before. I love it,

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>but you know, at least I mean, you see, that's

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>what we get to do for everybody. Yeah, we could

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>be very honest and open and no one's saying shut ah. Yeah,

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sure something else I almost did. I

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 1>knew you were about. I wanted to say it. It's

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the Internet, isn't it? But I know not a judgment call.

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Can we use that? Probably not? Probably not? Yeah, maybe

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 1>this can't. Let's take our final break, we come back.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.080
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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate that you get a kick out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that phrase, I love It is actually a really

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 1>good phrase. He said it again on NFL Network. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>he's got it figured out because that's a perfect way

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to describe what the problem they're doing. And it's not

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 1>just those three guys, it's all the other guys next year,

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it's the it's it's better than saying we're trying to

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>divide up the pie. You know, that's no. He encapsulated

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>everything that was said there. You got a question on

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>another radio station today, what's up with Zeke? Nothing? That

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>was very shortest answer you ever gave. Huh, I did?

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean? What else was I gonna say? Not talking?

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>But Steven's the way out right, We're not talk They

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.879
<v Speaker 1>won't call me back. You think maybe things Stephen talks

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.439
<v Speaker 1>about things being different we get back to Frisco. Yeah,

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 1>we we we're seeing different in Frisco because we're getting

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>closer to games. Yeah, we deadline or we just don't

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>want to could we could we be a situation? We

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about it anymore. If you're Dakmar.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Two years ago with Zach Martin, he decided to table

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 1>talks until after the season because they couldn't get a

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>deal done in training camp and he didn't want to

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>think about it. So now, I don't know if they'd

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>want to do that. I mean, I think Zeke wants

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>his contract. Oh no, I didn't. I didn't put Zeke

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 1>in that conversation. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean that's something

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it is sort of an artificial deadline in

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>some cases, right Mick. I mean, if you want to

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>get something done before the games, or if you want

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to get paid, yeah, leave a lot of money on

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the table. Give up two hundred and twenty four thousand

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>dollars you could. I could. No, I'm talking much work

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>as I'm talking for Dak and Amari too. I mean,

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, before the games start, and there is an

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>injury risk once the games start. I mean you'd want it.

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 1>You want that financial security if you can, right well,

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it doesn't mean it. If somebody put that

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>signing bonus on the table for me and I'm getting

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>it before I really have to get it, I'd have

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to consider I can't worry about the package. I got

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to consider getting that signing bonus right now. And here's

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:14.280
<v Speaker 1>what's happening with signing bonuses because of that that twenty

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>percent rule on the base salaries, the signing bonuses aren't

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>as high anymore, and so so they could when you

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 1>pro rate it, you won't have as much dead money.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm putting more of that money in the base salaries,

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>in the future base salaries, but the base salaries for

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this year count. So that's why these packages when people

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 1>talk package, Okay, it's a four year deal or five

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>year deal, but it's really a five year or six

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>year deal if you count the base salary in the

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>season you're in, when they're still it's still on the books.

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't just tear that up, right, So you got

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to be careful. But again, yeah, if that if that

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>signing bonus, if there's a twenty million dollars signing bonus

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 1>out there, what's twenty million dollars in the Goofy bank?

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for a year? Yeah right, yeah, twenty million because

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't need it. That's you know, that's the thing.

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I understand what I do get what Zeke's trying to do,

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>because again, they're they're in a situation now where say it,

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>whether the league or whatever it is. But I can't

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>believe that you would devalue the running back position. Not

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, I wouldn't devalue it because I think it's important.

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I've seen teams. I've seen teams have great success moving

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the football because of quality running backs. Yeah, you know,

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I just think that that's especially in the playoffs. You

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta be able to run the ball. You gotta be

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be able to just you gotta be able

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>to move chains is what you gotta be able to do.

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>You got to convert and you know it's harder to

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<v Speaker 1>move the ball. It's hard. But again, when you talk

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.919
<v Speaker 1>about devaluing the running back position, I guarantee you they're

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 1>offering a more than twelve point two five million a

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>year question. That's what girlies garing tea comes out at

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>twelve point two five. I'm totally with you on that.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I just I just feel like though that the the guys,

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the analytics guys and gals that do this for a living,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>if that's if they're trying to devalue the position, I

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with them. I'm not going to fight

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>those guys on that because I believe in what I believe,

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they have their say I have my

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>saying it. But if you if you're telling me I

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>have to play without Ezekiel Elliott or leaveon Bell or

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley or you know that's that's that's how people say, oh, well,

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>look what did the Rams did? The Rams did that

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>last year because of their offensive line. They did I

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>think because of their play caller was outstanding and they

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 1>have outstanding weapons around. And now if you feel the

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys can can function that way with the first time

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>play caller, then by all means they don't, then don't

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>pay Zeke. I don't. I don't think the Cowboys devalue

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that position, or they would not have drafted Zeke in

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the fourth overall selection question. I mean they wouldn't have

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>done it. They would they would have taken them back

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.399
<v Speaker 1>in the third, fourth round. Uh. It just comes down

0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to distribution dilemma. That's when it comes down to, how

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:05.800
<v Speaker 1>can we keep enough money spread around? Pay these guys fairly,

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>but keep them enough money spread around and pay And

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not really about this year's cap. It's about future caps. Two.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>You don't don't come in here and tell me, Okay,

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they got twenty four million, they can do this. That's

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>not about this year. It's about next year and the

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>next year when those base salaries now kick in and

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.399
<v Speaker 1>they go higher, and then the salary cap hit goes

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 1>higher and higher and higher, and that eliminates the distribution

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>for the other guys. One transaction around the league, Duke

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Johnson got traded from Cleveland today to Houston. Yeah, Houston

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 1>was looking for a back situation. What they get third

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>round pick is what it was. Yeah, conditional forty was

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he conditional fourth next year? That can move come

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 1>with three? According to ESPN? Right, Yeah, absolutely, so he

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 1>was a third round pick? Is that right? I want

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to say he was a third round pick out of Miami. Yes,

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in that sixty eight sixty seven range, somewhere right

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>around there. So kind of a run at running backs

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>at that time, I believe. Yeah, dude, Johnson, nice player,

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a good get for the Texans, you know, I mean

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Brien and those guys that that's a team. We

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 1>saw her own eyes last year. Running game would help

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that guy. I mean he took a pounding, he did track, right, Yeah, dude, Well,

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Duke Johnson was no Duke Johnson's got years left. Yeah,

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>he just was going to get less time of playing,

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, and him and John Dorsey really weren't seeing

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 1>eye to eye, and he made that known. He came

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 1>out in the OTAs and said, I really don't want

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to be here. I don't want to play. So, you know,

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the Texans, their running back situation not great. They went

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>out and get a galley. Duke Johnson's a pretty versatile player.

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And it didn't help that Baker Mayfield spoke out about

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 1>him needing to get in here and the team guy

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>quarterback can't do that. I think he learned. Yeah, you

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 1>see how Dak handles it right. You have to be

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.879
<v Speaker 1>careful you want it because if the guy comes back.

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>You can't have a bad relationship with teammates. No, you

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 1>can't know and especially the quarterback. Yeah, when the when

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the bridge is burned, the bridge is burned. You got

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to move on. And John Dorsey saw that, He saw

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>what was happening to Duke Johnson and said, you know what,

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>let's let's move on before this turns into something worse

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>than our locker room. He's got enough problems with Odell

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Beckham being there. That's gonna be interesting for a first

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>year head coach, you know, and to handle that. There's

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Freddy Kitchens. I like Freddy Kitchens, nice man. Funny guy.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm a little bit worried about a guy a personality,

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and I don't mean to turn this into Brown's talk,

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 1>but no, there's some strong personalities. Be honest. I'm glad

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Odell Beckham's out of this division. I mean, I really am.

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't have to worry about him anymore,

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>thank god. You know he could still make play. You

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>just got to stay away from other people's money. Yep,

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that's true. All right, So what was the movie other

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>people's other never mind? Go now, go ahead, try to

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>figure that out. Greece, Greece. I just threw like the

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>default answer. Yeah, I just I could have thrown out Jaws,

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 1>yea Godfather. I'm just kind of thrown out a lot

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of things, et et something. Yeah, I'm still on all

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>these movies. I'm not even thinking now, So you guys

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Okay, okay, As we look towards practice stuff

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>fire good movie. Um, they'll do a little prep for

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. But obviously there's not a huge game plan here.

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>It's more about player evaluation. Yeah, that'll be a little

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>bit of today's practice. I can kind of tell you

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.279
<v Speaker 1>what today's practice is gonna look like, if you go

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 1>ahead in it, I know we have. We're gonna see

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>cards and see cards. You're right making, But you know

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>what you do. You see who's running the cards, and

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you who's gonna probably play, maybe a quarterback

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and all those I mean, who's running against the cards.

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna gets cards up Brian Brother's head. Wednesday schedule

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 1>in his pockets. That is a fail. Who knows what

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>day it is? That is a fail. I had Thursdays

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in my pocket. I must have left at my desk.

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry about that, folks. But it's gonna be short

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of practice. Yeah, there'll be a period of defense and

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>a period of offense against the cards, just to give

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.720
<v Speaker 1>him something that San Francisco might throw at him, Garrett,

0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and you never know. Garrett said he wanted to give

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>his guys a chance, right because he says, we get

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>some pass happy or blitz happy coordinators in this league.

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>So you guys mentioned the quarterbacks earlier. Yeah, White and

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Rush competing for the number two spot. I don't believe

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 1>we've seen Mike White in second team much, if at all.

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much is he two days ago? He

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>got someone, he got some work he got. I mean,

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the at the young guys scrimmage,

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 1>all the blue white, the tim plays they had in

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>blue white right to play it out. He took the hole.

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>He took the whole shebang there. How do you think

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Rush has looked the last few days, because we'll probably

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 1>see a vast majority of him on Saturday night. Man,

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what two days he had back to

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>back days we're throwing it well. And then he had

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the two interception day where uh you know, he a

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Lumba got him on an interception down and then also

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>then Justin Phillips got him on his own drop on

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>down in the red zone. So, uh, he had a

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of passes yesterday that we're across the middle that

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be contested that were high, and he

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>threw one that I didn't think he even had a

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>chance to get there. So Mike White Rush some good,

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>some bad, more good from Cooper Rush than bad. Yeah,

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the Mike White finally showed yesterday that he could be

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Mike White of Western Kentucky, which I thought was a

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>really nice football player. All right, Well, well, uh, the

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>games are where it's really counting for those guys, and

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:20.399
<v Speaker 1>we're almost there. One more practice before the Cowboys head

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco to take on the forty nine Ers

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 1>in the preseason opener. Appreciate you guys join us. When

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<v Speaker 1>are we back tomorrow? Are we back tomorrow? Yeah? I

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 1>think we got Yea said we're gonna go tomorrow shows. Yeah,

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll keep what I wanted to know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll keep talking some Cowboys now, you guys know. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the rest of the story. See you guys tomorrow.

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