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Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this he's Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnard, California.

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Speaker 1: Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bruns, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: and welcome into Talking Cowboys on a Thursday, just an

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Speaker 1: hour and a half maybe before the start of Cowboys practice.

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Speaker 1: A morning practice today, the final on field work before

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys head up the one on one to San

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Speaker 1: Francisco or fly to San Francisco to take on the

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Speaker 1: forty nine or Saturday night in the preseason opener, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought, Kaden Gates and William Boykin's over

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Speaker 1: Yonder producing. Well, one more to go until we finally

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Speaker 1: get some game action. You're gonna stop at the Hearst

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Speaker 1: Castle on the way up, you know it always. I

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Speaker 1: love history like that, Yeah, I love to you know,

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Speaker 1: the Getty Museum, all those places. This state is really

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Speaker 1: is awesome for all the things that they do have

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Speaker 1: that you can kind of go and see. But no,

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Speaker 1: I gotta you're driving. Yeah, I mean the bone Crusher

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Speaker 1: or head and head bone Crusher, you know, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get pictures of you all the way up like

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Speaker 1: every other mile. Just this is kind of a behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes And again, I know people are probably tuning

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Speaker 1: in to let's talk, let's talk about argue about players

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Speaker 1: and stuff. But James, you know, the bone Crusher is

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Speaker 1: the team photographer, right, and so you know he's so quiet, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking I rode with him last year. He

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Speaker 1: rode with me, and I'm thinking, boy, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be five hours of me listening to music and not

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Speaker 1: saying a word, you know it just kind of trying

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Speaker 1: to pull man the other nice. Yeah he can. I

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Speaker 1: guess he talked. I know we we we left here

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Speaker 1: at ten am and we got to got to the

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Speaker 1: gate there at the Levi Stadium and he's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the ride. Yeah time he is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're thinking, okay, I'm gonna have to pound like two

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Speaker 1: of those red bulls, which I only Drake would I

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Speaker 1: have to, you know, and have to drive and kind

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Speaker 1: of keep alert. But he I'm thinking he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: say a word, and he, James, he talked the whole

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Speaker 1: entire time, and I you know, and I just kind

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Speaker 1: of sitting there like, Wow, this is something I would

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Speaker 1: have not expected for the listener. Bone Crusher is one

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Speaker 1: of the nicest people you'll ever meet. James Smith, team photographer, Yes,

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Speaker 1: long time team photographer for any save stories by the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's, oh my god, she mild manner. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: say a whole lot. Yeah. Usually I think every picture

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Speaker 1: I have over these years from training camp and offseason workouts,

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Speaker 1: they're from him because he catches these candid shots, absolutely

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Speaker 1: no idea he's shooting, and he takes the time to

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Speaker 1: send him to ye. But yeah, he got a picture

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite pictures, and this is this is

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Speaker 1: the the brag picture. He got a picture of me

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Speaker 1: and Troy Aikman talking one time in Philadelphia on the field.

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Speaker 1: You know how I always to get on the field.

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Speaker 1: You and I'd be standing in Kansas City looking at

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Speaker 1: wind direction. We're both looking up like fools at the

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Speaker 1: flags and stuff. But he got a picture of me

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Speaker 1: like talking with Troy Aikman, and it's like Aitman's like

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Speaker 1: telling me, I got my arms cast. I'm like really

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Speaker 1: intently listening. It's one of my favorite pictures because it's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really like locked in what's going on game day,

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Speaker 1: you know, and all that little intensity there. But Aitman

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Speaker 1: had been to down the road. You know what he

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Speaker 1: did during the Blue White scrimmage he wasn't here for

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Speaker 1: he was doing the TV. He took a picture of

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Speaker 1: the TV me interviewing Jerry Steven. I can't remember which

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Speaker 1: it was that he send it to me. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: Did James do Proud Brian was? No, No, somebody did

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Speaker 1: the best shot ever off television that was off TV.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That that's enough to make you want

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Speaker 1: to go on soda diet right there, that Proud Brian moment.

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Speaker 1: I need to get a skinnier pri Brian privant moment.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's people are very creative out there.

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Speaker 1: I admire people that are very creative. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I speaking of creative, they had a creative roster here

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Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys. They absolutely do. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna take a closer look at it today

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Speaker 1: as they get closer to preseason action and evaluate a

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Speaker 1: let's quickly recap what we saw on Wednesday out here

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Speaker 1: only a few hours ago, but you know, twelve hours

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Speaker 1: ago a little more than that. Um, what stood out

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Speaker 1: to you a practice first fight, if you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. Todd Archer took credit for that one. He

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Speaker 1: Didn't looked like the first round of a heavyweight fight too,

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Speaker 1: was a baseball fight. I'll tell you what. It was

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Speaker 1: funny about their fighting wings. Yeah, Joe Looney, Joe Looney

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Speaker 1: was the one who started the fight because he was

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Speaker 1: playing guard for Zach Martin yesterday and he got a

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Speaker 1: shot like Lale Collins was on, you know, on Triston Hill,

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Speaker 1: and Tristan Hill didn't see it coming, and Joe Looney

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Speaker 1: kind of took a nice little rib shot on him

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Speaker 1: kind of over the top of Hill, and Hill pops

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Speaker 1: Hill comes up swinging and and uh and in Collein's like, well,

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Speaker 1: there was there was a little bit of that going on.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's the first rule, you know, tot to

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Speaker 1: toe that we've seen as far as guy's kind of

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Speaker 1: getting upset with each other. It's been building. I thought

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Speaker 1: it had happened sooner in that because you could see

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Speaker 1: a couple of hits so that were level that weren't

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Speaker 1: that guy? Oh he hit that was yesterday. Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: hit hit Pollard. They run that thirty seven off the

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas coming from inside bam like face to face

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Speaker 1: and you see Pollard kind of snap a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And it was right in front of us, so as

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Speaker 1: we were there on that sideline area. So yeah, Joe

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Speaker 1: that's no big deal. Let you know you're here. Yeah, Hi,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna hit you high today. Jeff

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Speaker 1: Heath do that to you too, Jeff Heath run up

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Speaker 1: and he'll he'll find that angle and book hitch it

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Speaker 1: you can see a game on the horizon. It's like

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Speaker 1: Lyle said, after practice, it's gonna come out. Ye hit

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Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal. Quick. Could I give some practice

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Speaker 1: credit to somebody to my left right here? Yeah. Mickey

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Speaker 1: Spagnola told you yesterday that if you're not getting on

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Speaker 1: the bus, if you're on the injury bus and you're

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Speaker 1: not getting healthy and you're not being out there to participate,

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Speaker 1: they we're going to leave you at the station. He said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: them a man Tom left a lot of credit, but

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Speaker 1: he called that one right there very nicely. For you

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Speaker 1: right there, because I think that's where we're at right

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Speaker 1: now with camp. You said ten practice is in rob

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Speaker 1: if you're not. And again there's guys out there like

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin and Crawford and those guys of course the starters,

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Speaker 1: but if you're a guy that's a down the line

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Speaker 1: type of a player, they don't have any more time

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Speaker 1: for you. The days of waiting in OTAs and we're okay,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's fine. Nope, we're getting ready for games. We're

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Speaker 1: getting rid for preseason games, we're getting ready for regular

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Speaker 1: season games. We gotta cut this thing from ninety to

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Speaker 1: fifty three. If you're not part of the mix, then

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Lance Lenore. I know you have a banged

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Speaker 1: up knee and you can't participate, but we're moving on.

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Speaker 1: Rico Gathers, we're moving on. We don't have time for

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Speaker 1: you anymore. And they were light at guard anyway, and

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Speaker 1: I still let him go because you know, we got practicing.

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Speaker 1: I'm practicing, right, can't help him. Expendable can't be injured.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, That's that's a great line. Expendables can't get hurt,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry if you do. And it happens, right,

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Speaker 1: But it either got to push through it or expect

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Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen. And they end up,

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Speaker 1: you know, having to bring it to see what they're

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Speaker 1: worried about getting through the game. The game, and you

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Speaker 1: got to have extra guards. And they needed another tight

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Speaker 1: end because Witten's not playing right, the rico wouldn't have played,

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Speaker 1: and so they bring in a tight end that, Oh

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Speaker 1: is his sixth and he's on his eleventh roster move

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Speaker 1: and a couple of teams brought him back twice. And

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Speaker 1: he was a good tight end at Missouri right scouting report,

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Speaker 1: it was the second leading receiver in twenty thirteen when

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Speaker 1: they went to the SEC championship game against Auburn and

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Speaker 1: one quarter away from the National championship game. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: he had fifty eight catches, the leading receivers with Dorieo

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Speaker 1: he hasn't stuck. He's been practice squad, practice squad, practice squad,

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Speaker 1: practice squad. I mean, at some point and some you

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Speaker 1: would give up at some point you don't want to

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Speaker 1: stay in shape and then do what it takes to

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Speaker 1: be that workout was a little tough for him yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Usmyer was kind of pushing right. Us does a drill

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Speaker 1: where he grabs you like it's it's an old Tim

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Speaker 1: crumb Right used to do this drill for the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals when used to go on the road with Tim

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle. He might remember he broke his leg in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and and he uh, crumb Right used

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Speaker 1: to grab guys and wrestle with them, you know. I

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Speaker 1: mean he would like make you mad, wrestle with you,

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Speaker 1: you know, and he'd throw them off. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, here goes crumb Right. He's gonna piss this

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Speaker 1: guy off. And and Nussmyer was doing the same thing,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he was kind of jerking this guy

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Speaker 1: around a little bit, and I was thinking, oh man,

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Speaker 1: this is not good. You know, you need to sit

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Speaker 1: down hill, little power and all that. But yeah, Mickey's right,

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy has talent. The problem is, though, no,

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Speaker 1: he's just never been able to kind of get over

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Speaker 1: the hump to get onto a team consistently or make

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Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster, Marcus Lucas, Marcus R. Lucas,

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Speaker 1: Marcus I'm not sure, is it Marcus Lucas, Marcus Lucas.

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Speaker 1: I think yes. He was wearing number eighty right, he

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Speaker 1: will be wearing I gotta admit it was a little

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Speaker 1: weird not seeing Rico number eight a little shorter eighties

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Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, yeah, a little bit, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Who else did they sign offensive lineman? Go ahead, Mike

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Speaker 1: Bushell beat that. Bushel beat yeah, Juan Juan Bushell Beatty

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Speaker 1: from Michigan. And then they've also before that they did

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Speaker 1: you know, he wanted to go You're looking forward to

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00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: kind of going. He goes, yeah, I'm looking forward to

424
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: going against somebody sites Tyren Smith. Yeah, you know what

425
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean. He's just just yeah, he wants to get

426
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: away from that big guy. But Taco in two days

427
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: ago and team and absolutely he played well, Yes he did,

428
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: and that's not blowing smoke. And now I want him

429
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: to be excited about playing well. Yeah, like don't don't

430
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: get a sack fumble and just mo mosy back to

431
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: no jump up in the air, you know, enjoy yourself. Yeah,

432
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: and he's been beating down Brian Bross is beating and

433
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: he's starting to show and he needs to do that,

434
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: especially with Okay, there's no DeMarcus Lawrence out there, there's

435
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: no Robert Quinn out there, there's no Tyron Crawford out there. Hey,

436
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: you're kind of the guy. Let's go. I'm not around

437
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: him as much as the coaches are, and I know

438
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, but there's part of me,

439
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: as somebody who's kind of has kind of a laid

440
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: back demeanor himself. You can be a little misunderstood when

441
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: that's the way you carry yourself. I get it. It's football,

442
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: and you want to show what passion emotions. I get

443
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: it's fair but fair, but you know, to a certain degree,

444
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: maybe that's just kind of how he is. It doesn't

445
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: mean he doesn't care. You know. Well, if he thinks

446
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: he's a hot boys, then let's let's let's go. Let's

447
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: get hot, let's go. You know. But it's kind of

448
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: segue to you guys, and I appreciate me. That's a

449
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: great analogy, not analogy, great analysis of what Taco did yesterday,

450
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: because you're right he there was times they were running

451
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: that quick game going out out the right side and

452
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: Tacco was chasing from the back side like you could.

453
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure Dak Prescott when he let it go, he

454
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: was here in Taco breathed to him. That's how close

455
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: he was. Well, he's the one that screwed up that

456
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: flee flicker. He did, and he also kind of jet

457
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: sweep when they tried to run it, and he got

458
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: up the field real quick on that too. So give

459
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: him credit for that one thing. He said the other day, Um,

460
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: he'll play anywhere, but he doesn't. He did say he's

461
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: comfortable on the left side. That's where he started his career,

462
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: right Michigan. Yeah, Yeah, and played a little behind the law.

463
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: I guess his first rookie year. I think that's a

464
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: better spot for him. I mean, is there what's the difference?

465
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: You know what? To me, it makes sense. It makes

466
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: sense to him mentally because he's used to play in

467
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: the run because he's not He's not one of those

468
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: guys that you would say is a blur coming off

469
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: the right side, those you know when you talk about

470
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: the Quinns and the guys like that that could really rush.

471
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: Taco is more of it. He has to kind of

472
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 1: think his way through, and he when he's thinking, then

473
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: he's not making moves and he does the spin and

474
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: he gets himself, like Mickey says, in trouble because he

475
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: goes too early on the spin. If he could find

476
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: a way to win more to the edge, win more

477
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: to the edge without spinning, didn't get a little confidence,

478
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: he could become a better right end. He could because

479
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: he could give some people trouble with his length. The

480
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: problem is, though he doesn't use his link to get

481
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: to the next move because he's thinking, I gotta spin,

482
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: and these guys know, like Mickey said, he's gonna spin

483
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: right into someone being really patient blocking him so he's

484
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: got to learn more to get work more to the corner,

485
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: get to the corner, dip below, keep his balance and

486
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: then go get there, you know. And that's weird because

487
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: yesterday and the one on one that's from the right

488
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: success was from the right side. Yeah, right side. And

489
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: I was watching in the team period because he was

490
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: going against Fleming. Yeah, but that's where he and then

491
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: when he went to the left side, he lost his feet.

492
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: And I'm going, Okay, maybe it's just got to be

493
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: on the right side. Balance is bad at times when

494
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: Taco is bad. Maybe he has small feet or something.

495
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: He's bow legged. He can walk over he is he

496
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: can walk over fire hydrant and never know it. You know,

497
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: I just walk over fire riding, you know. But he's

498
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: longer clates something. Robert Quinn had that problem too early

499
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: in camp. Okay, this is kind of segues to big Daddy,

500
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: Big Daddy reeves. I like that, all right, Big Daddy,

501
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: Big Daddy reeves up. He wants to We talked a

502
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: lot about Taco, but could Joe Jackson, oh have a

503
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: better San Francisco game than Taco. I was gonna start

504
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: this was a question before this was what we were

505
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: always I was gonna start my game with Joe Jackson. Okay,

506
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: well maybe why is that? That's a good one? Huh,

507
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: why is that? I'm gonna name the game first, get

508
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: what's the name? What's the name of the game. It's

509
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: called up the one on one, Mick on the one

510
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: on one? Who needs to bring their game up? The

511
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: one on one from Oxnard to San Francisco and really

512
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: stand out. I need to bring my game. I know that. Yeah,

513
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: we all do. I'm guessing Joe Jackson will get more opportunities. Yeah,

514
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna play a lot, don't you think.

515
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: I think he is. And now he needs to take

516
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: advantage Taco. But if he gives Taco gets a couple

517
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: of series, I go on the right, maybe Joe Jackson

518
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: on the left, Armstrongs are gonna play. Armstrong will play

519
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: two that might need to be bad if they get

520
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: those two young guys kind of going at it. San

521
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Francisco has had some problems with some injuries, but kind

522
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: of like this team. But yeah, if you can, if

523
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: you can kind of get those guys going for a

524
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: couple of series, maybe a quarter. Yeah, we see Armstrong

525
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: and and Taco get after it a little bit, and

526
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: then we'll see some of the guys getting vault. But

527
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: if you had to kind of crystal ball it, maybe

528
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: maybe one guy has four tackles or three tackles or

529
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: a pressure. Who in your crystal ball are you're gonna say? Oh,

530
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: I think this guy is gonna between Taco and Joe Jackson.

531
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really looking. That's that's from our periscope, by

532
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: the way, and thank you to the question, Uh big

533
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: Daddy Reeves. I'm thinking Joe Jackson because I think he

534
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: might play well into the second half. Oh yeah, he's

535
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna play a lot, maybe more than Taco. Yeah, it'll

536
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: be him and Jelks maybe that whole second half. Yeah

537
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: that's another guy you like too. Yeah yeah, And and

538
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: what are you seeing from him? But it's like it's

539
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: like these are these are the times you've got to

540
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: show up. You know, you can do the stuff out

541
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: in practice. And Jason was saying Jason Garrett was saying

542
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: it yesterday in the press conference. But when the lights

543
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: come on now, is are they too bright for you?

544
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: You're ready to shine? And these are their opportunities. That's

545
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: why these games are important. I understand. You know, the

546
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: stars aren't out there playing, and I know they're important,

547
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: don't worry about winning and losing. But watch these young guys.

548
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: Watch these young guys, Tristan Hill, I bet they wear

549
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: him out. Yeah, you know he he doesn't. He doesn't

550
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: get veteran you know, responsibility out there like okay, you

551
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: had a series, you're out now. I'll tell you he's

552
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna play. I'll tell you a guy who this is

553
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: important too. To Mickey's portant, I know it might not

554
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: be part of your game. Bret Maher, No, we'll keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

555
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: Brett Maher Yeah. I mean you talked about even though

556
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: he's the incumbent and they don't have anybody waiting to

557
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: challenge him right now. In my opinion, this this you know,

558
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: they're very patient with him right now, probably a lot

559
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: more patient than Brian brought uses. But I see this

560
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: is there's some trends going on here. And if you

561
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: talk to you know, Keith o quinn, the Special Team's coach,

562
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: he'll tell you, wa wait, we chart all this stuff.

563
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: They've been happy, we've been happy with him. There's stuff

564
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: in practice that we don't see. But when you do

565
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: see it on the line. They're driving the ball. It's

566
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: a chance for a win in a two minute situation,

567
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: and you don't make it. That's what we see. I'm sorry,

568
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: I don't get to watch. I'm over here watching. I'm watching,

569
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: h you know, Reggie Davis trying to make this football

570
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: team over on field two. I'm sorry, you're over here

571
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: on field one kicking field goals. Okay, maybe I should

572
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: go over to field one and pay more attention to that.

573
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: But but this is important. This game is important for

574
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: a guy like Brett Maher because these guy guys like

575
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: me talking about that this is a bad trend of

576
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: him missing these field goals in these types of situations. Yeah.

577
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: The best thing he's got going for him, though, is

578
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: there's nobody out there. Yeah, unless you want some of

579
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: those the Chicago Bears have gone through. They've probably gone

580
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: through a half dozen kickers. After what happened at the

581
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: end of that playoff game. Well, I mean, there's always

582
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: got to be somebody out there who's kicked in the

583
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: league at some point. Right now, that's not a morning

584
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: to the folks that have been watching. I know who's

585
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: out there, I know, but I mean just that's my

586
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: next question. I'm gonna go up to Alex Loomis and go,

587
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: you got a kicker. I mean, well, he's a great

588
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: job with all the stuff they bring in, but he's

589
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: like a get a kicker. Yeah. I mean there's only

590
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: thirty two of these jobs, so I mean there's you know,

591
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys who have whether they're good

592
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: and reliable is another. A lot of teams have two though, Yeah. Yeah,

593
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: and this team relies on tight, close games more than anybody.

594
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: Thirt say, thirteen to the sixteen came down to a

595
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: touchdown or less. Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean this coach has

596
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: been good this career, his career here, he's had a

597
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of wins when it's been really, really really close,

598
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: a lot of wins. Yeah, it's a good point. You

599
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: know what he's been. He's been okay in those close games.

600
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: The only one I can remember missing was the one

601
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: against Washington, and that's the three he made it. Yeah,

602
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: and then they moved him back and it hit the upright.

603
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: It was more down the stretch. He missed the field

604
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: goals down the stretch. It's like the middle of game

605
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: that you can't miss. You can't miss an extra point.

606
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I just would hate this coaching staff to lose their job.

607
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: And Rob said it the best this division can hinge

608
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: on one game, and you don't want to have a

609
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: chance to beat the Washington Redskins in Washington and have

610
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: another situation where you miss a field goal and it

611
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: costs you and then then at the end of the

612
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: day or at the end of the season, it's okay.

613
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Now you got to go on the road and play

614
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: at or instead of being at home and playing a

615
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: game that's I don't think it's very good. You know.

616
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: That's why Jason answered that question the way he did yesterday.

617
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: We got to give him more opportunities to continue to

618
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: try and improve because he knows there's nothing else out there.

619
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't and they don't hear any confidence in there's

620
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: redfing So yeah, so they're right about that. So if

621
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: and he kicked what five or six yesterday, But it

622
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: has not been consistent overall in camp for the most part.

623
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: So if over four preseason games, if there's a kick

624
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: to be made, it's Maher kicking it. Let's hope absolutely.

625
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: Maher didn't last year in the San Francisco game, Maher

626
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: missed the field goal at the end. Then San Francisco

627
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: took the ball and drove the length of the field

628
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: for the game winning touchdown. I don't recall that. I

629
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: trust you, Yeah that happened. If I could be part

630
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: of the game here do it again? They want to know, Okay,

631
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: talk about bringing your a game. Jordan Lewis pushing Anthony Brown?

632
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: Do either one of those guys need to bring a

633
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Speaker 1: game or do we know enough about them? They're both

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Speaker 1: on the team. They're on the team. But but as

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Speaker 1: he pushing is okay? Then about this question? Then, is

636
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis pushing Anthony Brown for more playing time for

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Speaker 1: that sycle side? I mean, just judging off what we see,

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Speaker 1: there are times when you know they're going three corners

639
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Speaker 1: out there Lewis as at the right cornerback spot and

640
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Speaker 1: Brown will go inside. But they flipping it almost daily.

641
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Speaker 1: No I'm saying. But I'm saying, is that an indication

642
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Speaker 1: that maybe there is a little bit of a competition

643
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Speaker 1: there for who's the third corner Byron Jones? Before Byron

644
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Speaker 1: Jones is starting week one a woozier on the left side,

645
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Speaker 1: your nickel is going to be Anthony Brown. That's what

646
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Speaker 1: I think this. I think that's why the question was asked.

647
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I would lean towards that as well, but I'm just saying, hey, hey,

648
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Speaker 1: Jordan had a pick yesterday and seven one. He's he's

649
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: been guy here competing and playing well so and against

650
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: some really good receivers too. I talked to him yesterday

651
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Speaker 1: and he just kind of went down the line of

652
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Speaker 1: guys you're having to line up against every day. Gallop

653
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Speaker 1: in those guys, some of the young guys, Tavon Um.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a good depth battle there. I know

655
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Speaker 1: you like Anthony Brown, but I think we all like

656
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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. Lewis is a guy that has taken advantage

657
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Speaker 1: of his snaps when he's gotten him. They've been kind

658
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: of few and far between, though. Yeah, Mickey, Mickey's staying firm.

659
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna he's not gonna give up on Anthony Brown. Player. Okay,

660
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Speaker 1: no argument, but either way it works out. It's a

661
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Speaker 1: very good fourth corner in case somebody gets hurt absolutely

662
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Speaker 1: or if Byron Jones isn't ready to go, but it

663
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Speaker 1: sounds like he's getting close. I was talking to the

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Speaker 1: guy that they have um that Byron brought in. He

665
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: works him out as a cornerback, not physically, but and

666
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Speaker 1: he said he's really and everything that that they could

667
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: expect him to do this recent from hip surgery. So

668
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: that's a good sign. You mentioned Reggie Davis, Brian, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he comes to mind as a guy like one with

670
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Speaker 1: the lights coming on, because I just always go back

671
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Speaker 1: to Andy Jones a few years ago as Jones that

672
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Speaker 1: out here, oh my, all Valley Ranch, all Ranch, all

673
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Oxenard lights come on. It's a little bit of a

674
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Speaker 1: different story. And Reggie Davis has been among the more

675
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Speaker 1: impressive receivers we've seen in camp just in terms of

676
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: catching everything. His top line speed. What do you think, Mick, Yeah, absolutely,

677
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis, John Vay Johnson, Jalen Guiten, Cedric Wilson. You

678
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Speaker 1: can put all four of those guys in that boat

679
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: to take Tavon Austin out, you think, No, I'm not

680
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: sure about that. But if they keep six, then there's

681
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: there's four guys right there for two spots. See this

682
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: is where now I see if they keep Tavon Austin

683
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: as is he the fifth guy? Because you probably feel

684
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Speaker 1: like that they're gonna keep to keep your big wide

685
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: receiver there, Noah Brown. I have my doubts on that

686
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: right now? Do you really? Why? Okay? I'm just can

687
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: we go? Here we go? This will be fun, and

688
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: this will be fun because if Noah Brown stays because

689
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Speaker 1: a big body guy and special teams and all that

690
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: because they like him and all. Okay, I agree with you,

691
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: because you're right. But did he cut you off coming

692
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: out of the Star parking lot one day or something? No? No, no, no,

693
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: what happened? Here we go? No? Wait, tell me what

694
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: he's done? See, that's that's he's not wrong. But see

695
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: do you see them keeping two undersized receivers? If you

696
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Tavon and Reggie, do you see them do it? That's

697
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: why I've been saying all camp, Reggie Davis has got

698
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: to show you something on punt return, something else, to

699
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Speaker 1: stand out in a role, because somebody's got to beat

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Speaker 1: Tavon Awsome. Because I don't think Mickey, I don't disagree

701
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: with you about Noah Brown, but I'll say this though,

702
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Noah Brown is like gum on their shoe. He's not

703
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: coming off the shoe, and he's he's you talk to people.

704
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: He's pretty, not pretty, he's entrenched. He's entrenched in there,

705
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: and and there's a lot of there's a lot of

706
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: guys like you just named him all you named all

707
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: those young wide receivers, and I oft, let me tell

708
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Speaker 1: you another thing is gonna happen. And and suddenly Cedric

709
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Speaker 1: Wilson's wis in the bear and I could play in

710
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: the slide. Let me tell you this though. Get ready,

711
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: you can start asking these coaches questions about these receivers

712
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna tell you anything about it, right,

713
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: because what's gonna happen. We're getting closer to the we'll

714
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: get closer to the cuts and say they play well

715
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: or they're practicing well, yes, Sanjay lyle about these receivers.

716
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Speaker 1: They're doing okay, it's hiding time. They're doing okay, they

717
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: do not It's like it's like been Bloom talking about linebackers,

718
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: young guys doing well. Well, what about what about Hally Hall.

719
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: He's learning, he's getting better. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's

720
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: no there's no early in camp. It's like, yeah, we're

721
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Speaker 1: really excited. Da da da dah. Now it's like he's good,

722
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: he's doing fine, he's learning. Yeah, he plays because because

723
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Speaker 1: nobody wants to be the guy that all of a sudden,

724
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Speaker 1: some he's in New Orleans. That guy in New Orleans

725
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: watches everything, reads everything. Well there's a ten man practice squad. Yeah. Yeah,

726
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: like they trust us. No, I don't think they do. No.

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00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean the people in New Orleans when we talk

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00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,879
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Speaker 1: tell you how many times and again that's my relationship

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Speaker 1: with him. Well, you guys do a good job down there.

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Speaker 1: I love training camp. I love guy and the guy

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Speaker 1: you should. You should hire somebody out of your staff.

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Speaker 1: you what, man, the head coach of the Saints has

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Speaker 1: but you know, at least I mean, you see, that's

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Speaker 1: Two years ago with Zach Martin, he decided to table

841
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: talks until after the season because they couldn't get a

842
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: deal done in training camp and he didn't want to

843
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: think about it. So now, I don't know if they'd

844
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: want to do that. I mean, I think Zeke wants

845
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: his contract. Oh no, I didn't. I didn't put Zeke

846
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: in that conversation. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean that's something

847
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: I think it is sort of an artificial deadline in

848
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: some cases, right Mick. I mean, if you want to

849
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: get something done before the games, or if you want

850
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: to get paid, yeah, leave a lot of money on

851
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: the table. Give up two hundred and twenty four thousand

852
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: dollars you could. I could. No, I'm talking much work

853
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: as I'm talking for Dak and Amari too. I mean,

854
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, before the games start, and there is an

855
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: injury risk once the games start. I mean you'd want it.

856
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: You want that financial security if you can, right well,

857
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't mean it. If somebody put that

858
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: signing bonus on the table for me and I'm getting

859
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: it before I really have to get it, I'd have

860
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: to consider I can't worry about the package. I got

861
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: to consider getting that signing bonus right now. And here's

862
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: what's happening with signing bonuses because of that that twenty

863
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: percent rule on the base salaries, the signing bonuses aren't

864
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: as high anymore, and so so they could when you

865
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: pro rate it, you won't have as much dead money.

866
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: So I'm putting more of that money in the base salaries,

867
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: in the future base salaries, but the base salaries for

868
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: this year count. So that's why these packages when people

869
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: talk package, Okay, it's a four year deal or five

870
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: year deal, but it's really a five year or six

871
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: year deal if you count the base salary in the

872
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: season you're in, when they're still it's still on the books.

873
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: You don't just tear that up, right, So you got

874
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: to be careful. But again, yeah, if that if that

875
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: signing bonus, if there's a twenty million dollars signing bonus

876
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: out there, what's twenty million dollars in the Goofy bank?

877
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah for a year? Yeah right, yeah, twenty million because

878
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: you don't need it. That's you know, that's the thing.

879
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: I understand what I do get what Zeke's trying to do,

880
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: because again, they're they're in a situation now where say it,

881
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: whether the league or whatever it is. But I can't

882
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: believe that you would devalue the running back position. Not

883
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: to me, I wouldn't devalue it because I think it's important.

884
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: I've seen teams. I've seen teams have great success moving

885
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: the football because of quality running backs. Yeah, you know,

886
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: I just think that that's especially in the playoffs. You

887
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: gotta be able to run the ball. You gotta be

888
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to just you gotta be able

889
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: to move chains is what you gotta be able to do.

890
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: You got to convert and you know it's harder to

891
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: move the ball. It's hard. But again, when you talk

892
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: about devaluing the running back position, I guarantee you they're

893
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: offering a more than twelve point two five million a

894
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: year question. That's what girlies garing tea comes out at

895
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: twelve point two five. I'm totally with you on that.

896
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like though that the the guys,

897
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: the analytics guys and gals that do this for a living,

898
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: if that's if they're trying to devalue the position, I

899
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't agree with them. I'm not going to fight

900
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: those guys on that because I believe in what I believe,

901
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, and they have their say I have my

902
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: saying it. But if you if you're telling me I

903
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: have to play without Ezekiel Elliott or leaveon Bell or

904
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley or you know that's that's that's how people say, oh, well,

905
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: look what did the Rams did? The Rams did that

906
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: last year because of their offensive line. They did I

907
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: think because of their play caller was outstanding and they

908
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: have outstanding weapons around. And now if you feel the

909
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys can can function that way with the first time

910
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: play caller, then by all means they don't, then don't

911
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: pay Zeke. I don't. I don't think the Cowboys devalue

912
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: that position, or they would not have drafted Zeke in

913
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: the fourth overall selection question. I mean they wouldn't have

914
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: done it. They would they would have taken them back

915
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: in the third, fourth round. Uh. It just comes down

916
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: to distribution dilemma. That's when it comes down to, how

917
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: can we keep enough money spread around? Pay these guys fairly,

918
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: but keep them enough money spread around and pay And

919
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: it's not really about this year's cap. It's about future caps. Two.

920
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: You don't don't come in here and tell me, Okay,

921
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: they got twenty four million, they can do this. That's

922
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: not about this year. It's about next year and the

923
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: next year when those base salaries now kick in and

924
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: they go higher, and then the salary cap hit goes

925
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: higher and higher and higher, and that eliminates the distribution

926
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: for the other guys. One transaction around the league, Duke

927
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: Johnson got traded from Cleveland today to Houston. Yeah, Houston

928
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: was looking for a back situation. What they get third

929
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: round pick is what it was. Yeah, conditional forty was

930
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: wasn't he conditional fourth next year? That can move come

931
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: with three? According to ESPN? Right, Yeah, absolutely, so he

932
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: was a third round pick? Is that right? I want

933
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: to say he was a third round pick out of Miami. Yes,

934
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: somewhere in that sixty eight sixty seven range, somewhere right

935
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: around there. So kind of a run at running backs

936
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: at that time, I believe. Yeah, dude, Johnson, nice player,

937
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: a good get for the Texans, you know, I mean

938
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and those guys that that's a team. We

939
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: saw her own eyes last year. Running game would help

940
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: that guy. I mean he took a pounding, he did track, right, Yeah, dude, Well,

941
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson was no Duke Johnson's got years left. Yeah,

942
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: he just was going to get less time of playing,

943
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, and him and John Dorsey really weren't seeing

944
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: eye to eye, and he made that known. He came

945
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: out in the OTAs and said, I really don't want

946
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: to be here. I don't want to play. So, you know,

947
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: the Texans, their running back situation not great. They went

948
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: out and get a galley. Duke Johnson's a pretty versatile player.

949
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: And it didn't help that Baker Mayfield spoke out about

950
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: him needing to get in here and the team guy

951
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: quarterback can't do that. I think he learned. Yeah, you

952
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: see how Dak handles it right. You have to be

953
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: careful you want it because if the guy comes back.

954
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: You can't have a bad relationship with teammates. No, you

955
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: can't know and especially the quarterback. Yeah, when the when

956
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: the bridge is burned, the bridge is burned. You got

957
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: to move on. And John Dorsey saw that, He saw

958
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: what was happening to Duke Johnson and said, you know what,

959
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: let's let's move on before this turns into something worse

960
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: than our locker room. He's got enough problems with Odell

961
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Beckham being there. That's gonna be interesting for a first

962
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: year head coach, you know, and to handle that. There's

963
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens. I like Freddy Kitchens, nice man. Funny guy.

964
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: But I'm a little bit worried about a guy a personality,

965
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to turn this into Brown's talk,

966
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: but no, there's some strong personalities. Be honest. I'm glad

967
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's out of this division. I mean, I really am.

968
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have to worry about him anymore,

969
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: thank god. You know he could still make play. You

970
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: just got to stay away from other people's money. Yep,

971
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: that's true. All right, So what was the movie other

972
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: people's other never mind? Go now, go ahead, try to

973
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: figure that out. Greece, Greece. I just threw like the

974
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: default answer. Yeah, I just I could have thrown out Jaws,

975
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: yea Godfather. I'm just kind of thrown out a lot

976
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: of things, et et something. Yeah, I'm still on all

977
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: these movies. I'm not even thinking now, So you guys

978
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, okay, As we look towards practice stuff

979
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: fire good movie. Um, they'll do a little prep for

980
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: San Francisco. But obviously there's not a huge game plan here.

981
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: It's more about player evaluation. Yeah, that'll be a little

982
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: bit of today's practice. I can kind of tell you

983
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: what today's practice is gonna look like, if you go

984
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: ahead in it, I know we have. We're gonna see

985
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: cards and see cards. You're right making, But you know

986
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: what you do. You see who's running the cards, and

987
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who's gonna probably play, maybe a quarterback

988
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: and all those I mean, who's running against the cards.

989
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna gets cards up Brian Brother's head. Wednesday schedule

990
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: in his pockets. That is a fail. Who knows what

991
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: day it is? That is a fail. I had Thursdays

992
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: in my pocket. I must have left at my desk.

993
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that, folks. But it's gonna be short

994
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: of practice. Yeah, there'll be a period of defense and

995
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: a period of offense against the cards, just to give

996
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: him something that San Francisco might throw at him, Garrett,

997
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: and you never know. Garrett said he wanted to give

998
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: his guys a chance, right because he says, we get

999
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: some pass happy or blitz happy coordinators in this league.

1000
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: So you guys mentioned the quarterbacks earlier. Yeah, White and

1001
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: Rush competing for the number two spot. I don't believe

1002
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: we've seen Mike White in second team much, if at all.

1003
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: I mean, how much is he two days ago? He

1004
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: got someone, he got some work he got. I mean,

1005
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: if you look at the at the young guys scrimmage,

1006
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: all the blue white, the tim plays they had in

1007
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: blue white right to play it out. He took the hole.

1008
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: He took the whole shebang there. How do you think

1009
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: Rush has looked the last few days, because we'll probably

1010
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: see a vast majority of him on Saturday night. Man,

1011
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what two days he had back to

1012
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: back days we're throwing it well. And then he had

1013
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: the two interception day where uh you know, he a

1014
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Lumba got him on an interception down and then also

1015
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: then Justin Phillips got him on his own drop on

1016
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. So, uh, he had a

1017
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: couple of passes yesterday that we're across the middle that

1018
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: we're going to be contested that were high, and he

1019
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: threw one that I didn't think he even had a

1020
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: chance to get there. So Mike White Rush some good,

1021
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: some bad, more good from Cooper Rush than bad. Yeah,

1022
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: the Mike White finally showed yesterday that he could be

1023
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: Mike White of Western Kentucky, which I thought was a

1024
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: really nice football player. All right, Well, well, uh, the

1025
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: games are where it's really counting for those guys, and

1026
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: we're almost there. One more practice before the Cowboys head

1027
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: to San Francisco to take on the forty nine Ers

1028
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: in the preseason opener. Appreciate you guys join us. When

1029
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: are we back tomorrow? Are we back tomorrow? Yeah? I

1030
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: think we got Yea said we're gonna go tomorrow shows. Yeah,

1031
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: all right, we'll keep what I wanted to know. Okay,

1032
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: we'll keep talking some Cowboys now, you guys know. And

1033
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: that's the rest of the story. See you guys tomorrow.

1034
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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

1035
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