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Speaker 1: uh together as we march a little closer to the draft. Buck,

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Speaker 1: big win for your Dodgers last night. I won't I

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Speaker 1: It's always good, always good to get a dub your team,

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Speaker 1: All teams. Um, all right, let's jump into some football

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Speaker 1: talk here, because today on the pod, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: So I thought we just kind of go by position

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Speaker 1: that stuff. You talked about his physicality. The question mark

426
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: that I had was his blocking. That was the thing

427
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: that I deemed him on. Hey, he has to be

428
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: better in terms of blocking in those things. But two

429
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: really good players, two guys on Day three, Day two

430
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: that we're talking about that that second third round. Those

431
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 1: guys are coming off the board and they can be

432
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: really I mean the tight end class I cannot I

433
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: mean good players that you can get anywhere in the

434
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: draft to really fill out that room. So tell me,

435
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 1: if you're with me. So far we've done QB, whiteouts,

436
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: tight ends. I'm most excited, Like I would be most

437
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: excited about the tight ends we just mentioned to turn

438
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: in the card in the second round, Like that's the value,

439
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 1: like that those are the guys where I'm like, Okay,

440
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting definitely getting a good price on

441
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: on where you're getting the talent there at that position, DJ,

442
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 1: without question. I mean I'm looking at the first like

443
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: so the first six note in any order, Like I'm

444
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: looking at Mayor, Musgrave, King Kaid, Darnielle Washington, Tucker Craft,

445
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: Sam Looport. You get any one of those guys, you're

446
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: excited about your team, no matter when you have to draft.

447
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: You're excited about what all of those guys bring to

448
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 1: the table, even though they're all a little different. It's

449
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: really interesting and you're talking about people getting on that

450
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: Dalnon Kinkaid. Yeah, I feel like everybody now is Don

451
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: Kinkaid is like the number one guy. I had him

452
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: number two coming in. I think he's always been your

453
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: number one tight end. But everybody and their mom is

454
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: talking about Don Kinkaid being the guy, and so it's

455
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 1: interesting to see how those things play. And I think

456
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 1: the bigger thing going to Utah. I don't think he

457
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the guy that we were talking

458
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: the other tight end got hurt. Yeah, you know, it's

459
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: like look at this, Yeah, yeah, it's kind of funny

460
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: how how that goes. Um. All right, let's let's keep

461
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: it moving here. Let's get to the running back position.

462
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: Buck and I don't ever we don't ever talk about

463
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: guys medical stuff on here because it's just that doesn't

464
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: help anybody, and we want all these guys to be successful.

465
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: But there is a good one. There is a good

466
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: running back that I, you know, I think's probably gonna

467
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: drop a little bit because of some medical stuff. We

468
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: won't you know, we won't get into names or anything

469
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: like that, but um gosh it, we'll see more medical

470
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: stuff comes out over the next over the next week.

471
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: But it's always a reminder when you when you're watching

472
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: the draft and you see a guy and you don't

473
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: know why he hasn't gone, Um, you know, there's usually

474
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: a reason for that. So uh, let's go day two.

475
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: Running back that you are you're really fired up about

476
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: who do you got? Man? So it's funny because you

477
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: talk about um guys that are like designated role players

478
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 1: and so a chain. Everyone knows how fast a chain is.

479
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: But DJ, it's not fair to watch like Zachar's tape

480
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: and then the father it up with Chan because Hin

481
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: looks like he is in fast on Fast Forward. His

482
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: speed and his explosiveness and all that. The thing that

483
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: you worry about. Five five that's problematic. But I'm looking

484
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: at my notes. First note that I have on him

485
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: big time running back right like that, probably because the

486
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: speed just jumped, balanced by the control vision, rushed through

487
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 1: arm tackles. I thought he did a good job finishing

488
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: the home run speed. You can see it, soft hands,

489
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: versatile running back. I said, he's pro ready my comparison

490
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: in my notes, I compared him to Dalvin Cook in

491
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: terms of running style, you know, in terms of being

492
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: able to put it down and do those things. Sixty

493
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: five catches its significant. Well, now that you notice size

494
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes like you can't really tell when you're watching,

495
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: like how big they really are. One hundred and eighty

496
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: five pounds is light. But in the right role, I mean,

497
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: I think about like how game Will has been able

498
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: to do things for the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, in

499
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: the right role. You look at like, man, here comes

500
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: a little back and he gives you a little pop,

501
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: gives your little passing game. Han can do that. I

502
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: would love this man, you know, I would love to

503
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: see I love to see a great office of mind,

504
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: like an Andy Reid have a guy like this to

505
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of play around with and put him in the

506
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: screen game and use the speed and spread him out

507
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: and do that. He's big time kid for me. Yeah,

508
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: I like that. That's a good one. Um, well, I

509
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: have Charbonnet. It's gonna be my highest rated guy that's

510
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: gonna be available on day two. And I love him.

511
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his game. But I'm gonna

512
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: give you one. That to me is you know, maybe

513
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna go third, fourth, maybe you know, and

514
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: with the running back position usually you're better off guessing

515
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: the later round in the earlier round. But I'm gonna

516
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: say he sneaks into the third round and I'm actually

517
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna go to Auburn's tank Bigsby. He just got the

518
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: profile that works for me. He's five one, five two ten,

519
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: he's got good size, he ran four or five six.

520
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: He can catch the ball at thirty grabs. He's got

521
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: burst and bounced. Um, he explodes through contact, he can

522
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: stop and start. He's excellent after the catch. And and

523
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: sometimes in your notes, like you have all the football stuff,

524
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: and the last line I had in my notes is

525
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: like this a fun player like you just kind of

526
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: there's some guys you watching, like, Okay, that was fun, man,

527
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: Like watching that dude. That's a dude, Like he's a

528
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: good football player. I haven't heard a word about him.

529
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: I haven't heard I haven't been talking to teams. His

530
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: name never comes up. Really, it never doesn't come up.

531
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: And then for me, I'm almost like, maybe there's a

532
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: reason why that never everybody's everybody's playing possible. Yeah, but

533
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, his tape's too good, Like he's too good.

534
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: But every year we see we see backs going that

535
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: third fourth round range ended up being good football players.

536
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: He's kind of the guy I would target there, you know,

537
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: maybe let that first wave go by and then I'd

538
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: take my shot on him. You know. The thing. The

539
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: thing about it DJ and we talked about it, and

540
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about as more teams moved to

541
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: the back back committee thing, I think this year we're

542
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna have with five running backs that had over a

543
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: thousand rushing yards, is five or six. It was a

544
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: smaller number, one of the smallest numbs we've seen in

545
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: a long time. More teams are going to the buy

546
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: committee situation, and you're looking for guys. This feels specific

547
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: roles and if you're going to get a role player,

548
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to play top of the market prices.

549
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: When it comes to expending draft capital. I'm trying to

550
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: find those guys in the mid rounds for what they are,

551
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: not only in terms of what their base contract is

552
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: going to be, but hey, if we're seeing it's a

553
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: like disposable position where we're going to continue to cycle

554
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: that through every three or four years, well, I don't

555
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: want to commit that kind of capital. And so there

556
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: is we're talking about supplying demand. The supply at running

557
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: back it's so plentiful and the demand is so Yeah,

558
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: you're seeing it impact the veteran market. Austin Eckler, Ezekiel Elliott,

559
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, all these guys that are looking for you're

560
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: not gonna find any money, dude, Like there's no money

561
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: out there. Jered McKinnon, who had like ten touchdowns last

562
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: year for the Kann City Chiefs. All them express and

563
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: frustration at not being able to get like big money deals. Well,

564
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen because when you look ahead to

565
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: this draft class, there's so many younger fresh bodies that

566
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: are coming. I mean, man, that's what it is. It's

567
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: the nature of the business right now. You can find

568
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: these running backs that can come in and give you

569
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: value for two or three years, and then you find

570
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: the next one and so hate it for running back, man,

571
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: hate it. Yeah that is mamma. Don't let you. Don't

572
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: let your kids play running back somewhere else. It's a

573
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: short shelf life. Yeah, it's hey corner. We've been trying

574
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: to tell you got an athlete, play corner a little

575
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe back off the squat rack a little bit

576
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: and uh out there and run a little bit more

577
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: and play some hoop. Um all right, let's uh, let's

578
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: do let's do this one quick here. Let's go tackles

579
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: and interior lineman. We'll sandwich them together. So if I'm

580
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 1: gonna give you a tackle on the second round, um,

581
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go burgeron. I'll go master bergeron from Syracuse.

582
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: So we okay, So where this we can we can

583
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: share that one and then uh, you know a good player.

584
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: Some people think he'll play guard. I think he could

585
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: hold up. Um did lose to Miles Murphy a little

586
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: bit against some power, but overall I thought it does

587
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: a good job staying attached. Good player, Uh, interior offensive

588
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: line wise. Um, we kind of agreed on that on

589
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: the tackle there, Buck, who do you have as your

590
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman on day two that you like? You know,

591
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's so funny man, Like we talked like,

592
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have the tack. I like the centers.

593
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they could play tackle. Like I

594
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: like Whippler m from Ohio State as one that kind

595
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: of stands out to me. I mean all these guys

596
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: kind of rate the same Michael Smith's whippler. Um. I

597
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: like the kid. I mean before he's didn't pop as

598
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: they see o them to workout. Yeah, he got hurt. Yeah,

599
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: I believe it was the bench. He did the bench

600
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: next day. Yeah, so he was one of my guys.

601
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's funny because I think it's

602
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: a little lighter on the interior position good at tackle.

603
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a little lighter on the

604
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: interior blockers. What do you think? Yeah, it's not a

605
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: super super deep group there. Um, So I'm looking at

606
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: it right now. I would probably go, I mean, we'll

607
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: see who goes into into one. But like day two

608
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: lineman that I really like, I think Tipman ends up

609
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: going in one. Um, I think a Vilas a maybe,

610
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: Osiris Torrence is a maybe Cody Cody Mauk who we

611
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: both really likes going to go into Smitz Smith's is

612
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: a player we both like is going to go on

613
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, probably mid second round. Maybe he goes. Maybe

614
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: you get him in the third round, but that's kind

615
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: of where he's in the mix. Two guys I would mention, Um,

616
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: I just did this dude the other day. Everybody's been

617
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: telling me about him forever. He was. You know, one

618
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: of the best players who did not get a Combine

619
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: invite was Chandlers of Vala from NC State. He's probably

620
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: third round, fourth round range, but a really good player.

621
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: He's nasty. Um, he's a finisher. Um the guy for

622
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: me who again probably goes early day three, but I

623
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: would my grade. I would take him on the third round,

624
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: as Braydon Daniels from Utah, who's a left tackle for them.

625
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: I think is going to kick inside. You can really

626
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: really athletic distance, be a little stronger. But um, you know,

627
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: so there's there's a list, there's a launder list. They're

628
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: good players. Um Avila would be my favorite if he

629
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: got to the second round, but I don't think ye would, yeah,

630
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: because that I mean one did I have a board

631
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: inline first round grade on the villain. You know what

632
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like just his ability. I've wrote that he's

633
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: a quick set specialist. Howard mud would love him as

634
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: quick as he sits, and I mean he gets into

635
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: him early. He jumps, He jumps guys at the line

636
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: of scribbage. He just understands how to do that. His

637
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: quickness with his hands and his feet, it all works well.

638
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: Really good position block or two m Yeah. So those

639
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: are some of the interior guys that we like there

640
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: on day number two. All right, let's say quick break,

641
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: we'll come back and we'll zip to the defense. Here

642
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: favorite Day two players at every position. We'll get back

643
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: to it right after this. All right, buck, let's start

644
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: here edge rushers. So if we're looking at edge rushers,

645
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: we assume we're going to go second, third round guys

646
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: that you'd be fired up to turn in the card for.

647
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: Why don't you fire off a name here who you got? Okay,

648
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: this is funny because this is coming full a circle.

649
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: One of our guys who loves to kind of poke

650
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: the bear at US was Brian Burns with This player

651
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: reminds me of Brian Burds j R. Laurie from LSU

652
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: speed rusher coming off the edge. You see this quickness.

653
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: You see the birds plays hard, high motor, is always

654
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: very very relentless in his pursuit of the quarterback. Upright

655
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: rusher two boys stands like. I think he has the

656
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: same move that Brian Burns used, that a little dipper

657
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: rip where he turns the corner and does it. And

658
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: so I just wrote down, like, man, this dude is

659
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: like Brian Burns has five sacks. I gave him the

660
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: middle of the second round grade because I think he

661
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: kind of comes off that might be more of a

662
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: pass rush specialist. Don't know where we line him up

663
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: each and every down in our base defense, but he

664
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: certainly has value because he can get to the quarterback

665
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: and he's super athletic. Now I like that one. I'm

666
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: gonna go to the deeper cut because there is a

667
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are borderline, you know, like to

668
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: me fau right Felix and gave Zama. I'd take him

669
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: in the first round, but he might be there in

670
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: the second. If he's there in the second, I think

671
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: it's a home run. Pick Keyon White's my twenty eighth player.

672
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: He's probably been my one take fact. Right if every

673
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: year you have a player you you great, you grate

674
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: him early and you're like, oh, man, before you do,

675
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I might have been too high.

676
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: So I pulled him back, and then I got to

677
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: the point where we were talking about and the other

678
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: he's been punished enough, man, Like that's enough. He's settle older,

679
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: he's a little tight, but dude, this guy's explosive and

680
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: twitchy and he's got production. He can play inside, he

681
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: can play outside. I think for me, Buck, it was

682
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: as much as the Senior Bowl can help guys. I

683
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: had a high expectation of him going down there, and

684
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: when I left there, I was like, god, man, I

685
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: just didn't think he dominated like I thought he would

686
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: dominate down there. So I pulled back a little bit

687
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: on him. So I had a board inline first round

688
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: grade on him. And he's from like, he's from a hometown,

689
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: he played at one of the rival schools he played

690
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: at going at high school um and so man, I

691
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: felt like this dude played like a bull in the

692
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: china shop. He does inside outside, played good athleticism, movement, schools, versatile.

693
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: I look down, he has a bit three five seven technique,

694
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: power rusher, relentless, active hands, counter stout, versus to run.

695
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Like see him chasing backs. He's covering back to forty

696
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: yards down the field. So so so to me, you're

697
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: talking about guys that I think are flying under the

698
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: radar because I'm like, man, you're so high, And I

699
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: was like, man, like I'm looking at the tape. I

700
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: like good players. He's a really good player. He's active,

701
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: and he tore up my tarios. Now he absolutely not them.

702
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean he tore them up. And so I don't

703
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: know DJ like he's six five two eighty six. Ye, versatility.

704
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean just there's just a lot, and there's a

705
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: much I mean yeah, I mean that's what he's. He's

706
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: a hard one for me. You know who he reminds

707
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: me of. Not as a player, but in the scenario.

708
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: Do you remember how high I was on the Miami

709
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: dude who went to Buffalo? Why am I drawn a blank?

710
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau right? And then the workout, Remember it was

711
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: him and Jalen Phillips teammate at Miami and Jalen Phillips

712
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: looks so smooth and fluid and change of direction and Rousseau.

713
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: It's like, oh crap, he looks tight. Man. I didn't

714
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: realize he was that tight. So I pulled back on

715
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: him and I ended up settling him in and like

716
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: the twenties, he ended up going twents. You're a good player, man,

717
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: like heine eight eight sacks or something like that. Last year,

718
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna get some double digit Sacks've been a good player.

719
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: He's been a good player, and you know, and here's

720
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: the thing, and everyone can learn this. And the hard

721
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: thing is, like the think tank or the mob mentality,

722
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: you hear the same names and not only had colleagues

723
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: in the league, but I call these in this business, right,

724
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: You hear people talk about people, So didn't you start winning? Like, man,

725
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: who one's talking about the guys that I really liked? Like,

726
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: so didn't you start having like a little insecurity like man,

727
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: am I am? I off? Did I have a bad

728
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: day when I looked at the tape? But I mean,

729
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm convinced, And who knows, man, But like the kenn

730
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: Whites of the world, the guys that you really really

731
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: high like sometimes man, when you see him that first time,

732
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: DJ more times than not, your an initial instinct, your

733
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: initial reaction ends up being the right one. That's why

734
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: for me and my notes, that first score around, that's

735
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: why I tend to write like, hey, man, who's around me?

736
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: Of those things so I can kind of so I

737
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: kind of stay true to like. No, No, I like

738
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: this guy, and so I know we haven't ad about him.

739
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm an stand out there and put myself out there

740
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: and we'll see what it looks like in three years.

741
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: A good player, Yeah, No, I like him. So the

742
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: deeper cut I was gonna give you is one that

743
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: could be probably a third round guy. Um, I was

744
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: gonna go to tennessee Byron Young. So Byron Young is

745
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: liked him. He's a good player him two he ran

746
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: four four three. He's got thirty two and a half armed,

747
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: so okay average arm length, but he had ten sacks.

748
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: He's got big time get off. He can close at

749
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: the top. I thought, you know, there's time, but he

750
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: can play a little bit small at times. He's not

751
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: the bit not the biggest guy in the world. But

752
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I thought this guy had a really really good feel

753
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: as a rusher and he had juice. So to me,

754
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: it's the third round. I'd be fired up about him.

755
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: So yesterday on path Um, I did like five Sleepers

756
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: guys to talk about. He was second on the list,

757
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: you know when we talked to him, and it was

758
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: the same thing DJ, you can't take your eyes off

759
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: of when you watch Tennessee, like I and I know this,

760
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: and some of this is like the high school coaching me, Like, man,

761
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: you just having a appreciation for guys that play hard,

762
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, guys that run to the ball, guys that

763
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: finish at the ball, Guys that you know, you know

764
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: you just see them scratching and clawe to make everything.

765
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: And he is one of those that when you look

766
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: at the tape, he is all over the place doing it.

767
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: We can talk about the side stuff and what is

768
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: his like bass position? I don't know, but I just know, man,

769
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: he plays the game like the right way. There's just

770
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: so much to kind of like about him that look, man,

771
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: I'll kind of raise that flag on him. I just

772
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: like him a lot as a player. M Yeah, I'm

773
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: a I'm a fan as well. How about a defensive tackle?

774
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: Buck day two? You know, like it's not a great

775
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: group of the tackles man. Nuh, it's not. And then

776
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: so I'll go to so here's what I'm gonna do.

777
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a solid for my son of my

778
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: sons at San Jose State. So I'll talk about uh

779
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: Fioco Vielami Fioko from San Jose State, like into your

780
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: player like six four two seventy six. Like he's fine,

781
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: he's a left end, but you know, it's kind of

782
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: like I think he's gonna have to kick. Say, he's

783
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: nothing as a pass rusher in terms of elite, but

784
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: he plays hard, he flashes a little bit. Maybe he

785
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: has a chance. But you know, we talk about like

786
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: this class and what people have, m depth rotation player,

787
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: but d the only thing that that leads me to

788
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: kind of hang onto these guys. We've seen so many

789
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: guys come out the crypt that have ended up being

790
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: decent contributors on teams. Right player, right system, right environment.

791
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: So he's the one that I throw out there. Yeah,

792
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I think he's you know, I

793
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: would say he's probably more likely day three than day two,

794
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: but he's kind of like you hit it. He's a

795
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: left end. He's gonna be a left end. I'll give

796
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: you two guys to me a second and a third.

797
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: So I think Zach Pickens I think could find his

798
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: way into the second round at some point in time.

799
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: From South Carolina. Yeah, long, he's twitchy. Gosh. I had

800
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to his head coach down there.

801
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: He absolutely loves him, so U. Shane Beamer is a

802
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: big fan of of Zack Pickens. But when shais on him,

803
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: did he take his shaves off to talk to you? Yeah,

804
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: he got a lee. I'll tell you what the man's got.

805
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Calves too. We can talk about the shades, we can

806
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: talk about the dancing. He was at the Masters wearing shorts.

807
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: It's like, how dude, how many caphrases has this guy

808
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: been doing? He's got I mean, he's got like Phil

809
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: Mickelson esque calves. The good Lord. Uh but yeah, he's

810
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: yeah Beamers. He's a big fan though, of Okay so

811
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: Za the biggest. Yeah. Yeah, let me give you a

812
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: sleeper one that wasn't the non combine guy. And I've

813
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: been going through doing all these non combine guys the

814
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: last week, so one that I like, and probably I

815
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: think this guy will probably end up being a fourth

816
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: round pick. But I'm gonna fudge and say I could

817
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: get him into the third and that's gonna be Scott

818
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: Mattlock from Boise State UM six to four buck. He's

819
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: almost three hundred pounds. He ran under five. Kind of

820
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: used him as a four eye there inside the tackle.

821
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: He's just really really good on games. He's got some twitch,

822
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: he's got some power. Um, he was in the PA game.

823
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: He had a sack in the PA game. So, uh, interesting,

824
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: interesting player. You know, maybe maybe he's a four or five.

825
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes with a defensive tackle in this

826
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: class where it's not great, I could see him maybe

827
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: going a little bit higher than than people think. Okay,

828
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: let me let me just pick your brain on two guys.

829
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: So two guys that people have talked about, like randomly

830
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: but not consistently. So let's go usc two Lee. What

831
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: do you think about him? Initially? I like him a lot.

832
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a I think he's a really good player.

833
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: He was in my top fifty at one point in time.

834
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys where I appreciate the production,

835
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate the skill set. He's a you know, and

836
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: you've said this before over the years, like hey, that's

837
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: a pass rushes. There's a craftsmanship to that, like a

838
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: route runner. But he just doesn't have a lot of juice.

839
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: So I don't think he ever ran off forty. He's

840
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: not real long, so he's got thirty two and a

841
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: quarter arms. He's kind of between er. He's two hundred

842
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: and sixty six pounds. But this dude has a lot

843
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: of tricks in his bag. Stutter bullum, he can play

844
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: with his hand up and down, slip rip, he can

845
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: he can pop and separate, push pole stuff. I mean,

846
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: he's a great finisher. You give him a little bit

847
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: of a runaway, he's got power. He's just um, you know,

848
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: he's kind of a tweenter and doesn't really have that

849
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: elite juice and get off. And when we did those,

850
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: uh remember we did that scouting series, the Prototype series.

851
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: I remember when we were doing d Lineman and we

852
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: talked to these coaches and we talked to players like

853
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: where does it start? And they're like it all starts

854
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: with get off, Like that's that's it, that's where it starts.

855
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: Can you get off the rock? And I just didn't

856
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: think he had an elite get off? Yeah? Um, And look,

857
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: DJ is just one of the things that, Um, I've

858
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: always been a stiff before. When you look at the

859
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: great ones and look you were around, Like think about Sizzle, right,

860
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: g Sizzle didn't run a fast forty time, but when

861
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: you watched him play ten was excellent. Man to get off,

862
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: man just they jump. They just jump off the ball

863
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: like their their thing. Going all the way back to

864
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: like looking at Von Miller playing with Derek Thomas, watching

865
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith. The elite guys have that part of it,

866
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: and man that get off put so much pressure on

867
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: the blocker right away. And so I think I think

868
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: it's the number one thing that enhanced. You have those

869
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: two things, you're gonna you're gonna be a problem. Uh.

870
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: The other person I was gonna ask you about is

871
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: yah Yah Yabi. Yeah he's got you. Yeah, Um, like

872
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: thoughts just just initial thoughts or whatever, because somethings come up.

873
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: You never really talk about him. Yeah he's got Yeah,

874
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: she's got thirty four inch arms. Um, he's long. It

875
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of played that three man front. So you'll see

876
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: him get washed and collapsed a little bit just because

877
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's two hundred and sixty three pounds.

878
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: But push pole he can change directions, he's he flashes

879
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: some power. Um again, kind of a little bit of

880
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: a tweeter, but he's got real juice. Man ran four

881
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: or five one at two hundred and sixty three pounds,

882
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: so there's a lot to work with. I think he's

883
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: I think he's got a real chance of going on

884
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: day two. I wouldn't when I watched him on tape,

885
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: I would have thought, Okay, this is like a this

886
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: is like a good fifth round pick, like a little

887
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: bit of a project. You know, there's some stuff there.

888
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, he's probably got a chance to go

889
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: on day two. Yeah, it's funny. I will say this,

890
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: there's not a tape that I like watching more than

891
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: watching Louisville play defense. Like you talk about a guy

892
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: like after my own heart. We're gonna play defense. We're

893
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: not trying to be on the field long. No, we're

894
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: gonna get you or you're gonna get us, but we're

895
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: not gonna be out here. The slogan, the unofficial slogan,

896
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: should be we're here for a good time. We're not

897
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: here for long. I mean they come after you, and

898
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: you think about the speed and the athleticism and man

899
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: I forget the little corner that was at the sun

900
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Kendrill clark Man spatting on balls, picking balls up like

901
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: just he was unbelievable at the Shrine game. He's another one.

902
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: He does a good job of running up both sides

903
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: of the scoreboard, but he goes after it. Yeah. Man, Like,

904
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: so you think about an athlete like yeah, yeah, Dabi

905
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: being able to play in a defense that just leaves

906
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: a man go hunt. We're going to head the quarterback

907
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: like I like, you played with your aar on fire. Yeah,

908
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: interesting player. Linebacker wise, let me give you a Day

909
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: two linebacker here. I'm gonna go with my guy who

910
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: I've been riding this one the whole time. I think

911
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm higher on him. I know teams in the league

912
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: like him. I don't think they like him as much

913
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: as I do. Marte Mapu from Sack State. I know

914
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: he's got coming off a peck injuries, so he didn't

915
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: get a chance to run. He's six zo two five.

916
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: He's around two hundred and twenty pounds, so he's a

917
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: little bit undersized, but long, lean, ultra smooth and athletic.

918
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: He was awesome at the Senior Bowl Man as a

919
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: as somebody who sees things he doesn't have. Like I

920
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: wrote in my notes, Buck, his controller doesn't have a

921
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: pause button like he sees it and goes like there

922
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: is no hesitation. He's got great instincts. He can cover U.

923
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: I just think that's what linebackers are supposed to do

924
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: right now. He's got that type of a skill set.

925
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: To me, I'd take him, and I would, I would personally,

926
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: I would take him in the bottom of the second round,

927
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: top of the third round. And and maybe some people

928
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: in the league think I'm nuts on that one. He's

929
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: one of those ones where I'm like, I'm willing to

930
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna keep him right where I have him.

931
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Let's let's wait, let's wait two three years, and we'll

932
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: circle back, and all these big school linebackers and all

933
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: the you know, all these fancy helmets and fancy uniforms,

934
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: that little dude from Sack State is gonna end up

935
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: being better almost all these guys. You know, it's really

936
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: hard because man, this this linebacker class is kind of

937
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: whole hum But I do remember hearing in the fall

938
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: about the kid from Sack State. You know, you tied

939
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: into the guys in the West Coast people like, man,

940
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: you gotta make your way up to Sacramento. They got

941
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: the little guy that can make plays, and so you

942
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: see him making plays, and we've seen the position is changing. Man.

943
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: We went from being guys who wanted these big thumpers

944
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: in the middle of eight. Now we won't speed and athleticism.

945
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: We want guys that can match up. We want to

946
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: be able to play a little position list football, and

947
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: so you gotta have some guys that can run around

948
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: and make plays. And so he's one of those guys

949
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: that can run around and make plays all over the field.

950
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: You remember, um, you know he kind of plays as

951
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: they played that little four to five and he's kind

952
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: of the nickel whole player and he plays some robber

953
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: do you remember I think it was cal Poly back

954
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: in the day. Obviously er Lacker was kind of the

955
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, those guys. Yeah, you remember how that you

956
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: would always play it like eight yards like yeah, yeah,

957
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: eight ten yards and just put their athlete there and

958
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: just let him just run fill the alley and make

959
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: every play like he does. Yeah yeah, like super safety stuff. Yeah,

960
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, I remember remember I remember going there Imber

961
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: thinking like I remember thinking like this is a great

962
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: high school defense like this is this is Yeah, it

963
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: just does and you just take your you take your athlete.

964
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: He might be big, he might be small. Whoever he is,

965
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna put you. We're gonna cover you up a

966
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: little bit. We're gonna back you up a little bit

967
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: and let let you see everything. Yeah, yeah, you just

968
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: you don't have any responsibility. Just see the pullers and

969
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: just go screaming with your hair on fire. That is

970
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: so funny man taking it back to cal probably slow,

971
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: that is that is? That is? Um, I have so

972
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: you talked about big school guys. I'm gonna go man,

973
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: we I had to get you guys. Was it two

974
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: old two two old up another? They need to split

975
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: this up like his name. But it just looks because

976
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: all all the double apostrophes are getting me to toe

977
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: from from Alabama. I tried to give you a way

978
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: to remember it. Just think of it takes to oh

979
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: too to make a thing. Um, I am probably hiring

980
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: this guy than a lot of man instinctive man, the instincts,

981
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: he just sees it, he goes, he plays fast. Um,

982
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: you can tell these sorts of out the difference like

983
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: so like a guy like Trent Simpson who is more

984
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: athletic or whatever, but it takes him a step before

985
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: we can see what's going on here. He goes. Yeah,

986
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: like this guy man, he goes, he's easy, he goes,

987
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: he makes plays. He's smooth and fluid. I just wrote

988
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: down in my nose, quick trigger, key and go. He

989
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: doesn't mess around. Um, I don't know, man, good tackler,

990
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: square hitter. So I got a nice little I got

991
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: a good mid second round. I got a nice round

992
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: at six five. I got a mid I gotta mid

993
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: second round grade on him, like I kind of like

994
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: to do. I like it. Um, all right, I'm gonna

995
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: give you, uh, let's go to corners and safeties, will

996
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: bunch them together. Just give you two names here. Uh

997
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: for the corners, I'm actually gonna go Riley Moss from Iowa. Hey.

998
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: I like him, the white corner buck who knew the

999
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: white corner. So I brought this up because I told um.

1000
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: I was telling Rhett Um. When I was in college,

1001
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: we North Carolina, we played USC and the Pigskin Classic

1002
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: in ninety three. Jason Sehorn, Um, Jason Sehorn was on

1003
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: that team, and I just remember DJ. You never see that. Okay,

1004
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: usually that's where the ball's going right away. Okay, so

1005
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: come out a little bit DJ the ball. So look

1006
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: we run a post and look, man, I run past him.

1007
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things we were like, oh, man,

1008
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: I can't wait, I'm gonna catch since I'm gonna walk

1009
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: in in DJ. I catch it, but like he comes

1010
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: out of nowhere because I like, I know I'm buying,

1011
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: and he just flies and makes a play on the ball.

1012
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: Now I catch it, but I'm like, holy smokes. And

1013
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: so then you go and you watch him continue to

1014
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: get better that year. But then you watch him play

1015
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: ten plus seasons in the National Football League at corner,

1016
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: and we haven't really seen another one like that, Like,

1017
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a guy who look, you don't put

1018
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: him at safety just because the pain job. You see

1019
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: a guy who can legitimate job. I love that, so

1020
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: Ridley mar and looking. And the reason I say that

1021
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: is because when I used to coach Um before I

1022
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: coach where a coach now gran out here as they

1023
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: used to coach in Notre Dame, And so we would

1024
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: have little guys like that we put at corner, and

1025
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: I would tell like I had a guy, Kade Kave's

1026
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: a little five eight white kid. I said, Cad, you

1027
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: can get all the smoke now. I'm just telling you.

1028
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: They see they see you. They're coming your way, so

1029
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: we gotta be on it. And So when I went

1030
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: and saw Riley Moss m two seasons ago, he was

1031
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Championship game, and I'm watching him,

1032
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: and I'm watching him in one much and I'm looking

1033
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: at the footwork and the transitions and the break and

1034
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this this guy is nice. And he

1035
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: had the reputation coming in because he had a bunch

1036
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: of turnovers and interceptions and those things. And so DJ

1037
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: I think it's invaluable to have a guy like that

1038
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: that can move around. I would be intrigued to leave

1039
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: him at corner for a little bit. Yeah, I certainly

1040
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: know he can play like I leave him at corner.

1041
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: He makes so many plays that it stands out. And

1042
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: I'll never forget going to Utah and watching Eric Weddle

1043
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: and watching Eric Weddle take on Calvin Johnson. I think

1044
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: they played him in the Bowl game. I remember that man,

1045
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: and Eric Weddle was up to the challenge. I'm not

1046
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: saying that Riley Moss is but I certainly see a

1047
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: lot of value in what he brings to the table

1048
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: as an athlete playing on the perimeter. Yeah, Riley Moss

1049
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: eleven career picks, buck so and he's got three picks.

1050
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Six is guys. He makes a ton of plays, man,

1051
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: and he can run, he can jump. He had a

1052
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: good senior Bowl, so to me, I think he's got

1053
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: a chance to go in the second round. I think

1054
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: he's got a good chance to go in a Segon round.

1055
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: There's no chance he gets out of the third. So

1056
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: that would be a corner for me. And then the

1057
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: safety real quick. Then I'll get your names again. Neither

1058
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: one of us, I don't think are in love with

1059
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: the safety class, and so I'll just I'm gonna cheat

1060
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: and just give you the guy who's my top safety,

1061
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: and that's Sydney Brown from Illinois. Again, tons of production,

1062
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: six picks, really good special teams player, he's physical, he's tough.

1063
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: I think you can have to play him down as

1064
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: opposed to playing him high. But I know he's got

1065
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: a role. He's a good football player. He is a

1066
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: good football player. Sidney Brown. I'm all over DJ. Justy

1067
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: athleticism that he brings to the table, the instincts in awareness.

1068
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because I didn't expect him to

1069
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: be what he was when I popped in the tape.

1070
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: I knew the athleticism and stuff. But man, you talk

1071
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: about six interceptions just all over place, tackling awareness down

1072
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: in the physical I mean, just a good player, and

1073
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: then you see the combine stuff. That's when you're like, oh,

1074
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: four four seven, four and a half inch vertical ten

1075
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: ten broad jump two twenty twenty three times. So you're

1076
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: getting a super athlete who's also a pretty instinctive and

1077
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: productive player. So I'm good with him. I'll stay at

1078
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: the safety position. In terms of I gotta like how

1079
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: about Jordan Battle from Alabama. He's kind of what I

1080
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: call like an old school thumper in the middle. I

1081
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: like his eyes, the way that he larks, And to think,

1082
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: the funny thing about like the Alabama guys, he struck

1083
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: me when I used to look at TV copy as

1084
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: a big safety, right, But yeah, I know the same thing,

1085
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: right six one two or I was like, man, I

1086
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: thought he was so much bigger on TV before I

1087
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: started looking at the tape. I thought he was a

1088
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: really really good player. So he's my guy. I'm gonna

1089
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: staying right there. Alabama. And this is a bit of

1090
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: a I would call like a reputation pick and player

1091
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: in terms of maybe in the third round, but Eli

1092
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: ris from Alabama. The only reason I'm gonna bring him

1093
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: up DJ as a potential Day two guy just because

1094
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: he's so long. He has all this stuff. Now, I

1095
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: would say you have to check scheme fit and I'll

1096
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: say culture fit in terms of his personality, but in

1097
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: terms of his length. He was a five star recruit

1098
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: who went to LSU, goes to Alabama, super long, does

1099
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: a really good job as a bump and run spects,

1100
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: just played as a role player in Alabama. I just

1101
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: think when you're looking for guys that are long six, two,

1102
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: one ninety, maybe he goes Day two with probably more

1103
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: Day three. Just keep an eye on Eli Ricks. He

1104
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: is one that I could see him going to Seattle

1105
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: somehow and finding his way to end up being a

1106
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: really good player. You know, interesting modern with he a

1107
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: modter day guy. Yes, he's a mode day guy, Mode

1108
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: day guy. He was all world, he was all everything

1109
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: coming out of high school, kind of bounced around and left.

1110
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: I think he might have ended up at IMG. But

1111
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: he's local, so you always heard about him and you've

1112
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: seen him, and so he's just one. I just wanted

1113
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: to get the name out there because sometimes those guys

1114
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: kind of tend to go to the pros and they

1115
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: become they remember that their five star recruits. So yeah,

1116
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: no kidding the abilities in there, all right. This has

1117
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: been a fun episode. I hope you guys have enjoyed

1118
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: it knocking out some of these Day two players that

1119
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: we like and are looking forward to seeing where they

1120
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: land here as a draft is right around the corner.

1121
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys hanging with us. We will catch you

1122
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: next time. Right here on, Move the sticks.