1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Hello, It's Richard mcclinsmith here with a couple of announcements. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: After the amazing success of last year's Crimewave at Sea, 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: I'm excited to announce that we'll be setting Saiale again 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: next year February eighth to the twelfth of twenty twenty seven. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: I can't tell you enough how much I enjoyed this 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: last year, and I'll be participating fully next year with 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: the show. So he fancies some spooky true crime on 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: a cruise round the Bahamas, This one's for you. Go 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: to Crimewave at seed dot com for more information. Tickets 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: will go on sale on Friday, February thirteenth, so listen 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: out for more announcements there. Further to that, I'm also 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: hugely excited to say I'll be attending crime Con US 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: and UK this year. So for the US we're going 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: to be in Las Vegas twenty eight to the thirty 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: first of May. Go to Crimecon dot com to buy 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: ticket and use voucher code unexplained for ten percent off. 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: And in the UK we'll be in Birmingham on April 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth and London on the third and fourth 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: of October. These are all really special events that do 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot to put survivors of crime front and center, 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: and I'm really honored to be taking part for crime CONUK. 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Go to Crimecon dot com UK to buy tickets and 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: again use voucher code Unexplained for ten percent off. You 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: can also find all the links on my website at 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Unexplained podcast dot com. Forward slash events. In British society, 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: at least, we tend to prefer that people wear their 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: talent lightly. But such attitudes tend to come with a 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: few caveats, largely to do with class and race. For 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: those that we might consider to be in the higher 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: reaches of the British class system, it's all very well 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: speaking quietly about your achievements when you already occupy a 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: comfortable and privileged place in society. There is no need 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: to boast, for example, because your place, as it were, 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: is self evident and secure. However, should you dare to 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: come from a position of decidedly less established privilege when 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: your talent starts to attract fame and attention, then be 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: prepared to do battle with the court of public opinion 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: at the first sign of weakness, or the moment you 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: commit a supposed social faux pas. We see it every 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: time we open a tabloid newspaper in the gossip columns 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: detailing the latest celebrity mishap. More often than not, it's 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: hard not to sense the quiet implication that the subject 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: has committed the ultimate sin of forgetting where they came 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: from or failing to know their place. Things become even 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: more complicated and sinister. Even if we believe talent to 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: be something that is not necessarily earned, but bestowed upon us. 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: For some talent is simply a gift given to the 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: individual by God, and should therefore be encouraged, regardless of 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: the perceived merits of the recipient. As the Bible says 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: in Matthew five point fifteen, one shouldn't light a lamp 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: and hide it under a bushel. Instead, they should put 52 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: it on a stand where it can give light to 53 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: everyone in the house. So what then, of those who 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: are prodigiously talented but don't, according to the lords of society, 55 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: fit the mold of someone who should be you're listening 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: to unexplained and I'm Richard mc lean smith. It was 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: a bright close evening in May nineteen thirty four, and 58 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: the stars were flung out across the purple mississippy sky 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: like crumbs on a picnic blanket. The crooked branches of 60 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: the region's tupelow trees stood out like grasping fingers, and 61 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: a full moon bled its terrible light across the dusty trail. 62 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Unnamed animals could be heard howling into the darkness for miles, 63 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: and through it all came the footsteps of a young 64 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: man plodding tirelessly along the road. Twenty one year old 65 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: Robert Johnson had endured a tumultuous few days. He'd only 66 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: been with his wife, Coletta for less than a year, 67 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: but after it emerged that he'd fathered a child with 68 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: another woman named Vergie May Smith, Johnson was flung out, 69 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: and so he hit the road to follow his dream 70 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: of becoming a traveling bluesman. He'd shown some early promise 71 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: playing at the various shotgun shacks and illicit shabines that 72 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: were dotted around the American South. He could play a 73 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: mean harmonica, but even after a short apprenticeship to the 74 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: master of House Blues azayah Ike Zimmerman, older contemporaries like 75 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: Son House remembered that the young player was hopelessly bad 76 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: when it came to the guitar. Back when he'd been 77 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: apprenticed to Zimmerman, there were whispers that his tutor liked 78 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: to make the young bluesman practice with him in a cemetery. 79 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: He claimed that it was because they'd be undisturbed by 80 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: anyone eavesdropping, But before long, rumors began to circulate that 81 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: the two men were undertaking something far more nefarious under 82 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: cover of darkness, something which involved the supernatural and the 83 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: conferring of knowledge from worlds beyond our own. Blues music 84 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: was already beginning to cross over into the white mainstream 85 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: from a mainly black folk tradition, and Johnson figured that 86 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: if he could master the guitar the way he'd mastered 87 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: everything else, there was a solid opportunity to make his 88 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: fame and fortune. So, with a bindle slung over one shoulder, 89 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: a ten dollar guitar strapped to another, and a single 90 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: dollar bill tucked into his right shoe, Johnson decided to 91 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: make the roughly two day hike from Cohoma County in 92 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: his native Mississippi to the bright lights of Memphis, Tennessee. 93 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: Where and when Johnson appeared next is a matter of 94 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: some conjecture. It might have been at a humble duke 95 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: joint in Memphis, Tennessee, or in Helena, Arkansas. It might 96 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: have been playing for a select few friends and acquaintances 97 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: at a tavern or saloon in one of the many 98 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: one horse towns that Johnson passed through during his years 99 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: of itinerancy. Either way, what we do know from anecdotal 100 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: evidence is that wherever it was, Robert Johnson was said 101 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: to suddenly be possessed of a talent for playing the guitar, 102 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: which he'd never shown before. To many who saw it, 103 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: his fingers seemed to slide across the frets of his 104 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: battered old guitar in a way that suggested they'd been 105 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: possessed by some other agency. And it wasn't only Johnson's 106 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: playing that raised eye. It was the sudden caliber of 107 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: his songs who On November twenty third, nineteen thirty six, 108 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Robert Johnson appeared at the general store of one Henry 109 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Columbus Spear, who'd become legendary in the city of Jackson, Mississippi, 110 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: as a talent scout and broker for some of the 111 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: biggest names on the burgeoning blue circuit of the day. 112 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: William Harris, Ishman Bracy, Charlie Patton, and Evans Son House. 113 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: After playing only a few tunes for him, Spear was speechless. Immediately, 114 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: he put Johnson in contact with an English record producer 115 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: named Don Law. Law brought Johnson to Room four one 116 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: four of the gun To Hotel in San Antonio, Texas, 117 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: and for the next two days, the young musician recorded 118 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: several of what would later become absolute standards of the genre. 119 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I Believe, I'll Dust my Broom, Sweet Home Chicago, Terraplane Blues, 120 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: and an especially mysterious track known as cross Road Blues, 121 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: which Johnson seemed reticent to furnish with any added context 122 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: or illuminating detail. A few months later, in June nineteen 123 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: thirty seven, Law arranged for Johnson to finish his recording 124 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: at a makeshift studio in Dallas. He set down a 125 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: total of twenty nine tracks, most of which seemed to 126 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: emerge perfectly, formed in little more than two or three takes, 127 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: and for someone so inexperienced, Law was a little taken 128 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: aback when Johnson insisted did the songs not exceed three 129 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: minutes in length, almost as though some kind of spell 130 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: might be broken, should he deviate from it, given how 131 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: slap dash the recording process had been. The first single 132 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: released by Johnson, Terraplaine Blue, who did remarkably well commercially, 133 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: selling over ten thousand copies. Most, if not all, of 134 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the tracks Johnson taped between November nineteen thirty six and 135 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: June nineteen thirty seven still survived today. When a young 136 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Keith Richards first heard the record in the early nineteen sixties, 137 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: which had been introduced to him by bandmate Brian Jones, 138 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: Richards was spellbound. Richards would later tell interviewers, when I 139 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: first heard it, I said to Brian, who's that Robert Johnson? 140 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, but who's the other guy playing with him? 141 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: Because I was hearing two guitars, it took me a 142 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: long time to realize he was actually doing. 143 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: It all by himself or was he. 144 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Tragically, for Robert Johnson, he wouldn't get to enjoy much 145 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: more more of the success that the early sales of 146 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Terraplane Blues seemed to promise. On August sixteenth, nineteen thirty eight, 147 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: at the age of twenty seven, Johnson died from unknown 148 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: causes near the city of Greenwood, Mississippi. Because his death 149 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: wasn't reported widely at the time, we are left with 150 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: several competing theories as to what actually happened. No formal 151 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: autopsy is known to have taken place, and because of 152 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: the inherent racism of the American South at that time, 153 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: it is likely that the authorities decided instead to make 154 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: do with a pro former examination of his body to 155 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: file the death certificate quickly. Some have speculated that he 156 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: died from complications related to untreated congenital syphilis. Others have 157 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: focused their attention on events immediately preceding Johnson's death, where 158 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: it was known that he'd secured a residency for a 159 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: few weeks at the Three Forks Club in the village 160 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: of Itabina, about fifteen miles west of the city of Greenwood, Proper. 161 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: According to another contemporary of Johnson's, David Honeyboy Edwards, Johnson's 162 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: predilection for the company of women may have contributed to 163 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: his untimely death. In this version of the story, Johnson 164 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: was seen flirting with a married woman one evening after 165 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: finishing one of his sets. The woman had been drinking, 166 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: and in a quiet interlude between songs, a bottle of 167 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: whiskey materialized and was offered up to Johnson, seeing that 168 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: the bottle had been tampered with before it was placed 169 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: in front of him. When Johnson went to take a 170 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: swig from it, the young honey boy Edwards, who claimed 171 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: to be with him at the time, knocked it out 172 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: of his hand. Already drunk from a long night of 173 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: drinking on stage with its band, Johnson admonished Edwards. Then 174 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: the woman's husband is said to have arrived and encouraged 175 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: Johnson to drink. He accepted the invitation graciously and set 176 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: about knocking the whiskey back. Not long afterwards, it said 177 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: that Johnson began to feel ill. He was escorted back 178 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: to his room in the early hours of the morning. 179 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: Over an excruciating three day period, Johnson's condition worsened before 180 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: he finally died in a convulsive state of severe pain, 181 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: having supposedly been poisoned by the jealous husband. Many years later, 182 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: American musicologist and folklorist Robert mac McCormick claimed to have 183 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: tracked down the elusive husband and elicited a confession from 184 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: him that he poisoned Robert Johnson with strychnine. He refused 185 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: to reveal the man's name, saying that the confession was 186 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: given to him in confidence. But the mystery of Robert 187 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Johnson's tumultuous life and death didn't end there. I went 188 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: to the cross road, fell down on my knees, asked 189 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the Lord above, have mercy now, save poor Bob if 190 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: you please, sings Robert Johnson on the startling cross Road Blues. 191 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: But in the wake of his untimely death, some began 192 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: to wonder if, instead of the Lord, it was some 193 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: one else entirely whom Robert Johnson had pleaded to for 194 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: help while on his knees at those cross roads, had 195 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: as some began to wonder, he died so young because 196 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: that was the price of some kind of bargain that 197 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: he'd made. A few years after Johnson's death, a strange 198 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: story began to take shape regarding an apparent detour that 199 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: Johnson took after he set out all those years ago 200 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: as a budding but limited twenty one year old musician 201 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: to find fame and fortune in Memphis, Tennessee. Some say 202 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: it was his old mentor, Ike Zimmerman, who gave him 203 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: the instructions. On the next full moon, he was to 204 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: head out to the crossroads near the Dockery plantation in 205 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: the heart of the Mississippi Delta. Whereat midnight a visitor 206 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: would appear that would finally help him realize his ambition 207 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: to become the greatest blues player of his generation. And 208 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: perhaps Johnson did just that, and made his way out 209 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: to that perfectly ordinary, nondescript crossroads at the next full moon, 210 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: only to find suddenly, at the stroke of midnight that 211 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: all the nocturnal ambients that had so filled the air, 212 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: the cicadas, singing, owl's hooting, the wind blowing, had disappeared completely. 213 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Perhaps it was then that the figure he'd been told 214 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: to expect made him self known, a peculiar looking man 215 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: dressed smartly, put in unusual clothes for the age, who, 216 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: on seeing Johnson with his guitar, offered to show him 217 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: some licks of his own, before handing the instrument back 218 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: to the young man with a wry smile, And perhaps 219 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: on taking it from him, it was only then that 220 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: Johnson noticed how peculiarly long the man's fingers were, or 221 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: the strange fire that seemed to glow in his eyes. 222 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: And maybe Johnson asked the strange man to teach him 223 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: everything he knew, to which the man said he would 224 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: be more than happy to on one condition that Johnson 225 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: sell him his soul in return, And perhaps it was 226 00:15:47,840 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: then that Johnson happily signed it away. Many will be 227 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: familiar with Christopher Marlow's classic Elizabethan drama Doctor Faustus, in 228 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: which the eponymous Faustus sells his soul to the devil 229 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: in return for knowledge and power. However, the notion of 230 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: the devil's bargain or Faustian pact as its roots in 231 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: much earlier cautionary tales about mortals making unwise covenants with 232 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: divine beings. Perhaps the most famous example is the Greek 233 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: myth of Orpheus and his Descent into the underworld, where 234 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: the hero makes an agreement to retrieve the soul of 235 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: his love Eurydicy, on condition that he doesn't once look 236 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: behind him as they ascend back into the mortal realm. 237 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: But as Orpheus approaches the surface, he is suddenly overcome 238 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: with doubt, turning at last only to see the soul 239 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: of his beloved being pulled away from him forever. But 240 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: what if there were some truth to the idea. Perhaps 241 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: the most well known historical example of a deal with 242 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: the devil is the case of Bavarian born seventeenth century 243 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: painter Johann Christoph Heitzmann, who claimed to have signed not one, 244 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: but two pats for his soul in sixteen sixty eight. 245 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: After Heitzman became an orphan and was left destitute at 246 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: the age of seventeen, he claimed that the devil appeared 247 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: to him and offered him a contract signed in ink 248 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: and another signed in his own blunt. For nine agonizing years, 249 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: Heisman apparently subsisted as the devil's bounden son. When the 250 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: date finally arrived in sixteen seventy seven for the relinquishment 251 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: of his soul, Heitzmann took sanctuary at a monastery in 252 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: the Austrian town of Mariotsel. There a series of exorcisms 253 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: was said to have been performed, culminating in the devil 254 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: giving back the contracts and Heightsman taking vow to join 255 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: the brotherhood of Saint John of God. The artist would 256 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: eventually die in seventeen hundred, leaving behind a famous triptych 257 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: depicting his ordeal. Of course, we only have Heitzman's word 258 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: to take on this, and even if we are to 259 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: believe that such a fabulous story played out. There are 260 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: a number of other explanations for what actually took place. 261 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Sigmund Freud revisited the case in nineteen twenty three, and 262 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: it was his belief that what Heisman experienced was a 263 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: lifelong affliction with what he termed demonological neurosis or an 264 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: advanced form of schizophrenia in today's modern parlance. But there 265 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: are more modern examples of the Faustian pact at work, 266 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: which defy and even supersede the publication of Freud's study 267 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: into Heizmann. We are not so sophisticated that we have 268 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: jettisoned the old mythologies entirely. They still linger in the 269 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: high way. We speak about talented people who have flown 270 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: too close to the sun and burned out before their time. 271 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: It is no accident, for example, that rock and roll 272 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: is still referred to as the Devil's music, or that 273 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: we link the term so closely with the so called 274 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven Club, a term linking musicians as diverse as 275 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, and Amy Winehouse, 276 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: all of whom died at the tender age of twenty 277 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: seven and first among them was Robert Johnson. Blues historian 278 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: Pete Welding had the opportunity to sit down with one 279 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: of Johnson's contemporaries, Son House, for a Rolling Stone profile 280 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six. When he asked the elderly legend 281 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: about his brief association with the traveling bluesman during the 282 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: depression year of the nineteen thirties, House seemed to have 283 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: no doubt where the talent had come from. He sold 284 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: his soul to the devil to play like that, House 285 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: said to Welding, to his mind and many others. It 286 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: was the only explanation for Johnson's sudden mastery over the 287 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: sliding blues scale, which just a short time before had 288 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: eluded him so perceptibly. Perhaps there was an element of 289 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: professional jealousy that hot young players from the UK like 290 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: John Mayle, Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck were beginning to 291 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: tout Johnson as an influence. Indeed, the fact that the 292 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: likes of House had struggled for decades to support themselves, 293 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: only for mainstream white audiences to suddenly pay attention to 294 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: the art form after it had been adapted by men 295 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: who looked like them must have been a source of 296 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: great frustration. Now there was an opportunity to have some 297 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: fun with Johnson's legend. He had, after all, left pressure 298 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: little behind in terms of his history, and it's plausible 299 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: to think that the likes of House was putting his 300 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: tongue firmly in his cheek at his gullible new white 301 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: audience's expense. Whatever the truth of House's intentions may have been, 302 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: there is no doubt that it must have come as 303 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: a shock when the relatively unknown Johnson suddenly made his 304 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: appearance as a fully fledged, accomplished blues guitarist sometime in 305 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty four or thirty five. We can almost imagine 306 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: Son House sitting there nursing a glass of tepid beer, 307 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: smoke swirling around his weather beaten face in an old 308 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: shotgun shack as the evening kicks into gear. Perhaps he's 309 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: taken his woman out for the evening, the two of 310 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: them just waiting for the next high energy jive to begin. 311 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: A hush descends over the room as a young Robert 312 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Johnson shuffles onto the clapboard platform and takes his seat 313 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: on the stool. Then he takes his guitar out of 314 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: its tattered wooden case, leans forward toward the microphone and 315 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: starts to play a set of which no one has 316 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: ever heard the like before. Given that so little about 317 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: Johnson's actual life was committed to the written record, getting 318 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: to the bottom of whether he truly learned his trade 319 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: at the lap of a mentor who taught him in 320 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: a graveyard, or whether he sold his soul to the 321 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: devil at midnight on a barren crossroads near Docking, Mississippi, 322 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: or whether he really was murdered by a jealous husband 323 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: is nihon impossible. What we do know is that its 324 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: imprint can be found on so much, from delta blues 325 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: inflected records like the Rolling Stones is Let It Bleed 326 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: and Exile on Main Street, to less obviously conventional modes 327 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: of influence, like how it is now a standard that 328 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: a pop song should be only three minutes long. And 329 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: although there is something undoubtedly appealing about referring to rock 330 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: and roll, both to those who play it and those 331 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: who listen to it as the Devil's music, with Johnson 332 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: its devil son in chief, it's worth pausing for a 333 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: moment to think about what that idea really does. Because 334 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: the myth of Robert Johnson's selling his Soul was not 335 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: something that meaningfully followed him in life. He played mostly 336 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: in black establishments, places already viewed with suspicion by churches 337 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: and white authorities alike. To many in mainstream America, blues 338 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: musicians were considered itinerant, immoral, and dangerous. The music itself 339 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: was already seen as transgressive. The devil didn't need to 340 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: be invoked to make it suspect. But after Johnson's death, 341 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: the story takes on a different function. It begins to 342 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: do a kind of cultural work. The myth reinforces something 343 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: that many people were already comfortable believing, that this kind 344 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: of brilliance emerging from a poor young black man in 345 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: the Jim Crow South couldn't possibly be the product of discipline, intellect, 346 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: or intention. It had to come from somewhere else, somewhere darker, 347 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: somewhere other. In some ways, you might say, the legend 348 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: doesn't elevate Johnson, it diminishes him. It strips away the 349 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: hours of practice, the mentorship, the travel, the listening, the 350 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: pioneering innovation of combining various musical forms. All of that 351 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: is replaced with a supernatural shortcut. His talent was no 352 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: longer earned, it was given to him, and maybe for 353 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: white audiences encountering Johnson's music decades later, this framing was 354 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: often easier to accept, not through conscious malice, but through 355 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: something slipperia and more ingrained. It preserved hierarchy, It exoticized 356 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: black creativity. It cast the blues as primal, mystical, and dangerous, 357 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to modern, innovative and authored. In all likelihood, 358 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: although he clearly had an aptitude for it, Johnson simply 359 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: practiced obsessively. He traveled constantly, absorbing the different styles of 360 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: different regions. He learned from older musicians like Iike Zimmermon. 361 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: He innovated with structure and narrative lyricism. It was genius 362 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: and in that sense perhaps even supernatural. But it isn't magic. 363 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: Its work well, that's my two cents. At least in truth. 364 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: We'll never know for sure exactly how Robert Johnson came 365 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: to possess the talent he did, or indeed why he 366 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: died at such a tragically young age. That will remain 367 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: forever tantalizingly unexplained. This episode was written by James Connor 368 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: Patterson and Richard mc clean Smith. 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