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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Billy.

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Speaker 3: Gil, Hello, how are you Stu Guts.

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Speaker 2: I am doing well. I mean, we got a lot

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Speaker 2: of things to cover on this episode of Stupototy.

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Speaker 3: Huh, we do like what now, you know, we have

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Speaker 3: an interview we have we have It's been a while,

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Speaker 3: Stegut since we've had multiple guests on Stupotty. Unless you

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Speaker 3: count zoom zoom guests as guests, then last week we

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Speaker 3: had about forty five guests. But in terms of like

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Speaker 3: actual guests, it's been a while since we've had multiple guests.

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Speaker 2: I do have a question for you because we do

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Speaker 2: have two guests. We have Tony fen Now we're very

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Speaker 2: excited for that. We also have Mike Goullick Junior scuss

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Speaker 2: the latest going on in the NFL, and Rogers resigns

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Speaker 2: with the Packers. Billy has thoughts on that those are

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Speaker 2: his thoughts? Are those all your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to learn, ste Got, It's something that you

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Speaker 3: learned a long time ago. Yes, my words have consequences

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Speaker 3: and people people hear the things that I'm saying, and

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Speaker 3: it's not just me joking around to like four people

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Speaker 3: judases in Ryan Cortes and juju who like to put

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Speaker 3: out these clips of me saying outlandish and outrageous things. Yes, uh,

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Speaker 3: and then there's like reactions and I'm like, I'm fine

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Speaker 3: just saying it and you know, four people hearing it,

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Speaker 3: and that's that's that, you know, because like one day,

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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen is one of these people that I

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Speaker 3: then they're gonna come on and then like you saidlh

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah about me, And it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but like that's just because no one was saying anything contrary,

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Speaker 3: so I just had to say something, you know what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the something you said this week that you regret?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Because I love when they do it to me, Like

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Speaker 2: I have no I have zero issue with the fact

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Speaker 2: that I said Christopher maddog Russo is better than Steven A. Smith.

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Speaker 2: They clip that, they put it out on social media.

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Speaker 2: I also did not include Mike Ryzewski in our top five,

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Speaker 2: They put that out there in an effort to get

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Speaker 2: you know, to get a coach k or to get

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Speaker 4: Or?

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Speaker 2: I mean, because those guys are just doing their job,

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Speaker 2: Billy Juju and Ryan Quartet. I did have a I

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Speaker 2: do have a question for you, but would you like

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Speaker 2: to respond to that first?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I can't even remember.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is that I don't even remember saying

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Speaker 4: And then I see.

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Speaker 3: Video there, Oh yeah, what did I say?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? We talk for a loving Bill.

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Speaker 3: I just get caught up in the moment, you know,

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Speaker 3: and then it's like, oh, have I gone too far? No,

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Speaker 2: Billy, I live there, and I've lived there for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Not there yet. It's like Am I gonna get to

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Speaker 4: Billy.

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Speaker 2: It is rare where we have breaking news that happens

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Speaker 2: breaking news right now. Russell Wilson has been traded to

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Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Really, holy shit.

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Speaker 2: This is a crazy day in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, here's the deal. I was going to play

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Speaker 3: which is Tony Finow, and you guys will learn that shortly.

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Speaker 3: And we're you know, we're gonna pitch him nicknames, and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna give ourselves nicknames. And I was gonna put

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Speaker 3: who we were gonna go to first. But should we

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Speaker 2: Wow, Aaron Rodgers resigning with the Packers. You have Russell

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Speaker 4: I said, we go.

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Speaker 2: To Tony Fenow.

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Speaker 3: You, let's go to Tony.

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Speaker 2: He's a Pheno. Tony Fina was with us on behalf

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Speaker 2: of hyper Ice. We'll get to that. It just admitted Tony.

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Speaker 2: We are huge fans. Dare I say me? Mikey A

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Speaker 2: and Billy Gil are your biggest fans. And we'll get

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Speaker 2: to that in a second. We think this is the

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Speaker 2: breakthrough year for you. You're gonna renounce yourself. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: crack through it a major. You finished in the top

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Speaker 2: believe if Tony Fena was going to get it done.

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Speaker 2: But we want to start with your nickname, big Toe.

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Speaker 2: It's a good nickname, but we feel like we could

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Speaker 2: do better. Are you open to a new nickname?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I'm one open to a new nickname, and I'm humbled. Uh.

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Speaker 5: You guys are such big supporters. Thank you, Thank you much.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the nickname Phenom?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, I love that. I love that. Bring in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so you're phenom moving forward at least

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Speaker 2: for us and as fans. We wanted to run a

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Speaker 2: couple of options by you. Okay, you would like to

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Speaker 2: be your pH nuts? How about that, Tony?

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Speaker 5: I love I love it. If you guys are down

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Speaker 5: being called phoenuts, I'm in all right.

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Speaker 2: We are down with being uh being called phoenuts. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so you'll see us in the gallery. We'll be wearing peanuts, okay,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it. I'm in the phenom and you

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Speaker 5: guys are my phoenis. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Doddy, I'm wondering because you have come close in so

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Speaker 2: many majors, Like is there one that keeps you up

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Speaker 2: at night? Where Man I should have had that Master's Open, Championship,

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Speaker 2: US Open, You've been top five? Is there one that

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Speaker 7: There's only one shhot in my whole entire career that

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Speaker 7: at number twelve at Augusta on Sunday in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 7: If I had that T shot back, you know, I

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Speaker 5: But you know, those things don't happen.

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Speaker 7: But it is the one that I knew I had

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Speaker 7: probably my my greatest chance at winning up to this

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Speaker 7: it done. Some guy, some guy named Tiger Woods won

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Speaker 7: that one. So but yeah, I've never heard of from that. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: exactly right, that's the only one.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a fan club, Tony, I can tell

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Speaker 5: Nuts, he doesn't have no fe nuts. Exactly.

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Speaker 7: I've got something that I've got something that he doesn't have,

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Speaker 5: Rare in this game.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, Tony, your first sport was fire knife dancing.

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Speaker 2: Billy is really intrigued by this. Can you explain what

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure you guys have actually seen it. If

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Speaker 7: you've ever been to a lua, they usually finish a

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Speaker 7: so I meant, I actually learned how to do that

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Speaker 7: It's pretty it's pretty amazing. So I think I learned

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Speaker 3: I feel like golf needs in general, and you probably

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Speaker 3: will agree with this. More fire So when we do

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Speaker 3: like the par three at Augusta, like, why don't we

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Speaker 3: But now I know it could be dangerous twist like

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Yeah, but like what if.

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Speaker 2: He broke his an?

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Speaker 3: What if we light some clubs on fire this year?

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Speaker 7: Would like, hey, now that I have my phoenuts on

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Speaker 7: my side, whatever you guys, whatever you guys recommenden, I'm due,

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Speaker 7: I'm in. I'll tell you what though. Fire knife dancing

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Speaker 7: is way cooler at night and and mainly the reason

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Speaker 7: at Louw's you do it last because you want it

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Speaker 7: to be pitch dark. So when you see that knife spinning,

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Speaker 7: it's really really cool. When you see a good fire

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Speaker 7: knife dancer spinning the knife at night, it just makes

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Speaker 7: the fire looks way cooler at night than it does

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Speaker 7: during the day. So maybe we do a little glow

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Speaker 7: in the dark part three and light the stickle, you know,

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Speaker 7: light the knife on fire someone.

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Speaker 4: Now we're talking the like that idea.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll tell you this, Phoenuts will go nuts.

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Speaker 5: I love it. Fe nuts going nuts. Hey, we've got

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Speaker 5: We've already got shirts, we've got memes. This is a thing.

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Speaker 5: Now we're in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, you are a friend of the show. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: I think I have no idea. Did you ever injure

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Speaker 2: yourself doing the uh the fire knife dancing?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy, the story is so, you know we hit

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering because you're a great athlete, you're a great

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Speaker 4: That's not the way you tell the story.

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Speaker 3: The way you tell the story is the only reason

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Speaker 2: Right there, you go there would if you decided to

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Speaker 4: Tone, don't forget that.

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Speaker 7: Let's go all right, I've got my next story line ready,

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Speaker 2: We'll get to we'll get to hyper ICEI just a second,

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Speaker 2: You're a guitarist. Right, you're really good at playing the guitar.

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Speaker 7: Why did you I love playing the guitar my I

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Speaker 5: Ever been around is my dad. He's a very well

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Speaker 7: It takes you away and takes you into a space

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Speaker 2: Next time you come on, because you're a friend of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go, we'll do that, y that or you know,

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Speaker 7: So Phoenuts. Just let me know what the phoenuts pho

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Speaker 4: And yes, I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Wait, does Tony have a top three guitarist of all time?

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Speaker 4: Do you have that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got Eric Clapton is number one.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say he's the greatest guitarist, but I love

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Speaker 3: You just changed the question and made it your communication, Sorr.

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Speaker 5: I think, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 7: I think I think I definitely did that. There's so

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Speaker 3: We're not questioning the phoenn't worry, We're not question yet.

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Speaker 4: Question Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So so Tony, I want to play a game with

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play it with you, but first I tell

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So I've been an ambassador and had a sponsorship with

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Speaker 7: hyper Ice for a few years, and yeah, I just

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Speaker 7: I use it to fly. But they have so many

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Speaker 7: I'm just a huge ambassador and a huge advocate for

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Speaker 2: Where can people get more information if they want?

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Speaker 7: I mean, you can follow me Patrick Mahomes. We're all

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Speaker 7: So you can follow us and and and find the

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Speaker 4: You and Mahomes died or what.

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Speaker 7: We're not tight, but we are both sponsored by a

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Speaker 3: You're gonna you're gonna be tight soon. Tell you this

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Speaker 3: calling you and he's going to be one of the feenuts.

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Speaker 2: We played golf with Mahomes Ataho, Like he's a huge golfer,

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Speaker 2: he's a huge fee We're gonna make him a fee ut.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's what.

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Speaker 5: He can can send it. He didn't send it. He's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were playing with him.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna make him a part of the phoenus

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: I love this.

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Speaker 5: I love that it's a thing.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not certain.

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Speaker 2: It is or if you want any part of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we arrived here. I'm gonna get here, Tony.

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Speaker 2: You will see me, Okay, I wille be in all

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Speaker 2: My glory is a phoenut, I promise you let's go

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Speaker 2: all right, quick game here. I'm gonna let you go.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the time. We appreciate it for now

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Speaker 2: or fhiena Okay, like nah, I get out of here.

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Speaker 2: People calling in watching TV to report potential rules violations phena.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're annoying, right, yeah.

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Speaker 5: That is super annoying.

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Speaker 2: Throwing a club and anger phw or phena Nah.

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Speaker 5: That's overrated. Throwing club is overrated.

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Speaker 4: Together throw a knife I mean geez.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, throwing knives up in the air with iron

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Speaker 2: Come on, all right, a player deck dat and all

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Speaker 2: the best gear. Who is terrible at golf? Pw or phena.

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Speaker 7: Oh oh now, I love seeing that stuff, all the

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Speaker 7: all the gimmicks. Hey, if you can't, if you can't

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Speaker 2: Than five practice wings before each shot, phenaw or phena.

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Speaker 7: Phenae, cut it with the practice wings, get straight in

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Speaker 4: That's why we didn't rip it. That's why we're phoen uts. Man.

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Speaker 2: We love you, your foodie, your chef. Catch up on

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Speaker 7: You shouldn't have to put any sauce on steak in

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Speaker 2: Wife ordered catch up at shule with steakhows too. I

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Speaker 7: My dad, My dad, My dad does that and I

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Speaker 5: Like, really, Dad, like he's his soul. He doesn't. I

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Speaker 7: Careful, Yeah, yeah, exactly, I can't do that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get you out of here in a second. Steak

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Speaker 7: a to me, it's a good piece of steak, or

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Speaker 7: something just happens to just barely dribble down.

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not worried.

443
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Speaker 7: You know, we got the ten second rules. Sometimes I

444
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Speaker 7: got the five minute rule. But it's you know, if

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Speaker 7: it's good enough, it's still good. It's still going in.

446
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Speaker 4: Oh. Like if I wasn't a fen before, I am now,

447
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, this guy is the best. He really is.

448
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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, Mike, hold on, this is the big

449
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Speaker 2: one peeing in the pool now, Fena.

450
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Speaker 7: Oh you guys gotta put me on the spot like that.

451
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Speaker 7: Come on, we all do it, Toddy, Yeah, yeah, now yeah,

452
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Speaker 7: it's uh, we'll just we'll just leave it at that.

453
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Speaker 7: No comment need to be at it.

454
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Speaker 2: But that's you know, guy who says after his second

455
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Speaker 2: or third bad hole on the course says, oh, it

456
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Speaker 2: was all working well on the rage or Feta.

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Speaker 7: Well, to me, it's finale because I just love hearing amateurs.

458
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Speaker 7: The excuses are never are endless. I love hearing all

459
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 7: the amateurs and pro ams just bring out all the

460
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Speaker 7: you know, all the excuses and all the bags of tricks.

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Speaker 7: So I don't I don't mind it. I don't like it,

462
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Speaker 7: but I don't mind it all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Tony, we know your short on time. We really

464
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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 2: Your new nickname is Phenom, and we're the Fiends and

467
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Speaker 2: we believe you will crack through. You will win your

468
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Speaker 2: first major this year. My friend, you might win too,

469
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Speaker 2: how about that?

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Speaker 7: Hey, I'm in, I'm in thanks to my new Phoenus

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Speaker 7: and all my fans.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thanks, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Guys, you got it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you Augusta. I'll be there, Tony, I'll be

475
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Speaker 2: dressed up as a feenat Okay.

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Speaker 4: That's going done? All right? Oh, holy shit, what a day.

477
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Speaker 2: In fl What the fuck is happening?

478
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Speaker 4: Jerry Judy's pumped right now. Guys had an emotional afternoon

479
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Speaker 4: from Brownie face to Smiley faced the matter like an

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Speaker 4: hour and a half.

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Speaker 2: Quite the roller coaster. Thought it was gonna be Aaron Rodgers.

482
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Speaker 2: It's not right. And then he's kind of thinking about, Okay,

483
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Speaker 2: who are the quarterbacks I have in Denver? Who are

484
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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks? Never before before Russell Wilson was traded?

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Speaker 4: Who were they?

486
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Speaker 2: Drew lock right, Yeah, yes, the lock to Wilson. Yeah.

487
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Speaker 4: What about Jamal Adams? A big revenge game for Stu

488
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Speaker 4: Gotts and the Jets fans on.

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Speaker 2: What happened with Jamal Adams, the fact that he wanted

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Speaker 2: to go to a place at a quarterback. Now you're

491
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Speaker 2: blocking him. He doesn't have a quarterback. Yes, they should

492
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Speaker 2: train him back to the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Why they don't have a quarterback? That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: We never do. Mike Well I'm looking up I'm looking

495
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Speaker 2: up a list here from Don Van Nada. They are

496
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Speaker 2: gambling odds on the next NFL player who's likely to

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Speaker 2: get busted for gambling on NFL games. Wow, you like that, right, Phil?

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you something. I guess. Did Denver

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Speaker 3: think they were gonna get Aaron Rodgers? And as soon

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Speaker 3: as they didn't, they're like, all right, well we got

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Speaker 3: to pull the trigger here on for us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I wonder. And this is not just because I

503
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: spent all morning on the Family pod talking with mikey

504
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Speaker 4: A about love is Blind. Oh this very much reeks

505
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Speaker 4: of like Jared proposing to mal and then when he's

506
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Speaker 4: done saying, all right, I'll just go propose to Iana.

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Speaker 2: Now that is sorry. In advance the GLIC family.

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Speaker 4: Download it wherever you get your podcasts. They breakdown, coming

509
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Speaker 4: out as Billy will.

510
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Speaker 3: Be no doubt jazzed about did you guys see the reunion?

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Speaker 3: Did you talk about the reunion?

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Speaker 4: We did? They had all seen the reunion. I hadn't

513
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 4: seen the union, or I had to have it all

514
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: spoiled for me. But it sounded like Shake meets his

515
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Speaker 4: ass beat. Dude.

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Speaker 3: Shake put on a performance at that reunion. He said,

517
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Speaker 3: you know what, Shana will not end this season as

518
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Speaker 3: the villain, and I have one final chance to make

519
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: myself the villain here. Also, you guys don't care about

520
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 3: Love is Blind except maybe Gojo. But Shake's Instagram.

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Speaker 2: You can remove them maybe from that bill.

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Speaker 8: First off, No, I am one hundred percent in Really,

523
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Speaker 8: I forced my wife to watch it.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Really, I am a man and.

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Speaker 4: I watch Love is Blind.

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Speaker 3: Hear me, roar, It's great, It's great.

528
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Speaker 4: I have never fantastic, Oh Stucotts as someone like me.

529
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Speaker 4: I've watched trash reality TV in the Bachelor for a while.

530
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 4: Now this is the next step up. This is heavier

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Speaker 4: of the genre.

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Speaker 8: I want to get back to Billy's point in the second,

533
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Speaker 8: but let me just tell you the way it started

534
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Speaker 8: was I watched season one during the pandemic, and I

535
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Speaker 8: watched three episodes, and I don't think I've ever love

536
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 8: hated so many people in mind, I hated everybody and

537
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 8: loved watching them twist and turn. And season two delivered

538
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 8: just the same.

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Speaker 4: Billy. I want to go back to your point now, though,

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Speaker 4: because I know what you're getting at and it's electric.

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Speaker 3: Well, so he's he's kind of gone crazy. He's starting

542
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: fights to guts with Nick Laschet, he said in the

543
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Speaker 3: reunion spoiler alert. Do you understand the concept of the

544
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: show's guts or no? So basically, it's like blind dates

545
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: where you're dating these people in these pods, but you

546
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: can't see what they look like, so then you have

547
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Speaker 3: to propose to someone basically if you want to move

548
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Speaker 3: on to the next phase of the show, which is

549
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: like a honeymoon in cancuon and then after the honeymoon,

550
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: you then move in with them. And these people are

551
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Speaker 3: all from Chicago. They live in an apartment together for

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Speaker 3: like a couple of weeks. I think it's like, in

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Speaker 3: total six weeks.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's four it's four weeks between the proposal

555
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Speaker 4: and the wedding, and it's ten days of you dating

556
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Speaker 4: in the pods without see each other.

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Speaker 2: So you date in the pods, you can't see each other,

558
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Speaker 2: and then to take the next step you have to

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Speaker 2: get engaged exactly.

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Speaker 4: And then you can see the other person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and you don't see what your favorite game, well,

562
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Speaker 3: so yes, and if you watch the season you will

563
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Speaker 3: quickly learn that.

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Speaker 4: So shake it.

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Speaker 2: Seems more dangerous than football. I gotta be honest, No.

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Speaker 3: Some might say that. Yeah, in fact some are so. Anyways,

567
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Speaker 3: at the reunion, Vanessa le Say is one of the

568
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Speaker 3: co hosts along with her husband Nickolasche, and Shake, who's

569
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Speaker 3: a veterinarian whose Instagram handle is at the Puppy doc

570
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Speaker 3: I believe, which was clearly created just so he could

571
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Speaker 3: become like a veterinarian influencer on Instagram. Because there's no

572
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Speaker 3: reason on earth you would have your Instagram name be

573
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Speaker 3: the puppy dock unless you want it to be like

574
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Speaker 3: insta famous for being a vet. He told He said,

575
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Speaker 3: I was not attracted to any women on this show

576
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Speaker 3: except Vanessa le Say, and he said that right to

577
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Speaker 3: Nickolasche's face. It was just the guy decided I want

578
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Speaker 3: violence today and it was incredible.

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Speaker 4: My brother's direct quote about it when he was watching

580
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Speaker 4: the finale was someone needs to beat Shake's ass in

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Speaker 4: the streets, because apparently, in now deleted Instagram comments that

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Speaker 4: Billy was referencing, he was talking about nick Lache and

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Speaker 4: then capped it with and say hi to Vanessa for

584
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Speaker 4: me yeah, and tagged her now I believe it since

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Speaker 4: been those comments have since been deleted but it obviously

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Speaker 4: lives forever on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy, do you remember why Nick Lache hung up

588
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Speaker 2: on me the last time we had him on the show.

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Speaker 2: I was hearing the sound that we don't have this sound,

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Speaker 2: but he didn't hang up on me.

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Speaker 3: Right, I do remember why he hung up on you.

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Speaker 3: It's because.

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Speaker 2: It was something with Jessica Simpson.

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00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 3: He was recently divorced from Jessica Simpson at the time

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Speaker 3: she was dating Tony Romo.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And I believe that that's also right around the time

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Speaker 3: that Tony Romo had his like famous Tony Romo moment

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Speaker 3: where he like bumbled the ball like the goal line

601
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Speaker 3: or whatever it was. And Stu Gott's and I guess

602
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Speaker 3: the show we're using romo like as a verb at

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Speaker 3: the time, and Nick Lache was on and Stecott said

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Speaker 3: something along the lines of he went Romo and he

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Speaker 3: did not like that at all because his ex wife

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Speaker 3: is now with Tony, and it was like, I believe

607
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: they may have done it twice and then he finally

608
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: was like, no, I'm done and hung up on them.

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00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: Rojo has his hands on his head. He has a

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00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: face of disbelief, right, now, why are you surprised? Like

611
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Speaker 2: it's me?

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Speaker 4: You know what? I know. It's an amazing testament to

613
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 4: you that I am somehow still surprised every time at

614
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: the absolute limitless amount of shame you can inject to

615
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Speaker 4: any situation.

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Speaker 2: This is mere months, by the way, I'll throw this

617
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Speaker 2: into the story as well, mere months after the fact.

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Speaker 2: We had a party at the Versace mansion. Nick Lache

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Speaker 2: was there and I made him talk to Abby for

620
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Speaker 2: twenty minutes on my cell phone and he did it.

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Speaker 2: He was a nice guy.

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Speaker 4: That's the other part of this is nick Lache seems

623
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Speaker 4: like an incredibly decent human being for the most part,

624
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Speaker 4: and you're just out here absolutely manhandling him every chance

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Speaker 4: you can.

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Speaker 2: So, Billy, you know me the best of all the

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Speaker 2: guys here. Do you think I would like this show

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Speaker 2: you guys are talking about, like, is something I'm.

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Speaker 4: Going to enjoy? I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a good grasp of what your television

631
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Speaker 3: interests are. I'm gonna be honest, I.

632
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Speaker 4: Would say no. I'd vote no. Yeah too. Honestly. I

633
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: just imagine you like watching YouTube rehighlights of Grateful Dead

634
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: shows like you know what you'd watch on TV besides

635
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: golf tournaments and dead shows football. That's about it.

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00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you just identify the three things that

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00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: I watch. So the occasional cooking show. I like a

638
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: cooking show.

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00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: You know what kind of cooking shows are you in?

640
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 4: Two stud Are you like a chopped guy or like

641
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 4: a Hell's Kitchen guy, which you're like a chop guy.

642
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: I like when people have to cook stuff. They're under pressure,

643
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: they have a limited amount of time and there's judges,

644
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: you know. I like that stuff.

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00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: Do you like like like main courses and entrees or

646
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: like the bakery dessert type shows?

647
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Speaker 2: Main courses entrees come on?

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Speaker 3: I like man, I like the sweet stuff billy.

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Speaker 4: You like when someone gets their hands on a little

650
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: bit of fond it?

651
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: Oh fonding Oh. I tried to take this weekend. It

652
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Speaker 3: went very poorly.

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Speaker 4: Would you try and bake? What'd you try and bake? Well?

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna take this into the week because I

655
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Speaker 3: don't think that anyone that was present will hear no, So,

656
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: like what happened was is that my sister's husband's mother.

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Speaker 4: So why are you whispering? Well?

658
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: Because there's family around, so I don't want them to

659
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: hear it. So my mother in law organized like this

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00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: food and wine type situation where there was like five

661
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Speaker 3: or six couples. Actually I think there were seven couples.

662
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Speaker 3: Each had to choose a country, and it quickly got

663
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Speaker 3: away from us. It started as you chose a country,

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Speaker 3: and you made like a main dish from that country,

665
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Speaker 3: and then it turned into you make a dish, you

666
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: make a dessert, you make a drink from that country,

667
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Speaker 3: and then there were costumes involved, so it quickly got

668
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Speaker 3: away from us. So as part of the participation in this,

669
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Speaker 3: I chose a dessert from Argentina that I was making

670
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Speaker 3: and it's like these little cookies. So we had to

671
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Speaker 3: bake the cookies and we had to put the cream

672
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Speaker 3: filling inside, and then we had to put a little

673
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Speaker 3: coconut crips around the edge of it. And we waited

674
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Speaker 3: until day of to do this, and I felt like

675
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: I was on one of those shows like racing against

676
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Speaker 3: the clock. We ended up getting there two hours late.

677
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: Everybody was waiting for us to try all of these

678
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: different things. It was all falling apart. There was fourteen people.

679
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Speaker 3: We ended up only being able to make eleven cookies

680
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Speaker 3: because of how poorly. I did this situation. I can

681
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Speaker 3: go get you know what, you guys discuss talk about

682
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Speaker 3: whatever we're going to talk about. I'm gonna get the

683
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: cookies and show you what's going on with these cookies. Football,

684
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: talk about the football, the trades and all that jazz.

685
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Speaker 4: Two hours late, the Stu Gots is so present in you.

686
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: Really, I don't want to discuss football now. I gotta

687
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: be honest with you.

688
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Speaker 4: I'm electrified by these because that's always the most difficult part.

689
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: And like I know, in a lot of those shows,

690
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: especially with Chopp, it's like careful editing at the end

691
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: to make it look like everyone's coming into the wire

692
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 4: and they make you drop your utensils. I'm sure in

693
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: actuality most of these professional shit's probably had it down

694
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: a little bit better than that. But that showbiz. But

695
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: like that, really, because I billy, you know, we talked

696
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: about making I've started trying to cook a little bit

697
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: more while I've had some downtime. And the toughest part

698
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: is plaiting, because all that work you do on the

699
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: brick and mortar feels useless if you're presenting to an

700
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: audience or a group there and it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing,

701
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: so I can see how you can fuck that up

702
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: at the finish line and feel like you've mangled the process.

703
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Mike Ye, I'm inturgued by Mike Goullock Junior cooking.

704
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: Are you not like I am? But I'm also intrigued

705
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: about Steve Gott's cooking. You say you watch cookie? Oh yeah,

706
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: do you actually dabble?

707
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: I didn't say I cook. I just said I watched. Okay,

708
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm not a great cook. Like I know, I'm not

709
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: a good cook. Why just because you watch cooking shows,

710
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: you just you just assumed that I was getting into listen.

711
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 8: I watch cooking shows to get some ideas. I watch,

712
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 8: you know, like, oh, I way football doesn't mean I

713
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 8: play football. I mean, you know, I just like I

714
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 8: enjoy good cooking show.

715
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: What can I tell you?

716
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Speaker 4: I see I can say that, Mike Ye, though, because

717
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: I was Stu Goots for the longest time, where I

718
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: loved watching chopped in these shows and I'm with Billy,

719
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: I loved like Cupcake Wars and all those ones where

720
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: it is like dessert because I could before I started cooking.

721
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: Even now, I could do the piping like I always

722
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: thought I'd be good at the piping of the icing

723
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: onto the cupcakes and shit like that, but I couldn't

724
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Speaker 4: do the rest of that stuff. Now I'm trying to

725
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Speaker 4: bridge the gap a little more because I know, Mike, Yeah,

726
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: you actually do cook I do. I do.

727
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Speaker 8: I mean, I actually try and get tips. I try

728
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 8: and learn from WHOA what Billy's cooking?

729
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow, a little in the middle there, Billy. They

730
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: almost look like macaroons.

731
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: You know what. I actually asked my wife are these macaroons?

732
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: Because I've seen so many baking shows where they make macaroons,

733
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I wonder if this is what it is?

734
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: And that is a very good eye by Mikey. They

735
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Speaker 3: that is dulce the leche in the middle of it,

736
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Speaker 3: and then like a little coconut. I don't even know

737
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Speaker 3: what it's called, dried coke.

738
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Speaker 4: I want it back. It's it's macarne. Oh, is what

739
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: you're talking about?

740
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Speaker 8: I know that because I took a cookie class to

741
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 8: learn how to make macarons, and every time the woman

742
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 8: said it, I wanted to correct her and She's like, no, yeah,

743
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 8: but ahead, what do you.

744
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: Got in name?

745
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: And if you say macaron's honestly, get over yourself.

746
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: Like, well, mcaroon is a different cookie than a macarone macaroon?

747
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: Maybe we're talking about different cookies. Then what are your man?

748
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, macaroon looks like puffed coconut.

749
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: Oh, macarne looks like a sandwich. Is macarone like the

750
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: little French one? Then that looks like the sami? Yeah?

751
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Speaker 4: Those are delightful, by the way, football building.

752
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyways, we go back to foot something happened.

753
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: Your day? Russell Wilson make macarons.

754
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Speaker 2: Wait a second, we'll get to Calvin Ridley. Gambling makes

755
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: danger witches.

756
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: We know that.

757
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: By the way, Antonio Brown is pleusy sify Tonio Browns

758
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: plus three fifty is the next guy to get gambling

759
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: on a football game.

760
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: Did you see Antonio Brown the other day say that

761
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: he wants to buy a minority share in either the

762
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: Dolphins or the Broncos. Kanye Yeah, oh my god's.

763
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: For the owners to vote him in.

764
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Speaker 3: I found out today that Kanye on TMZ apparently was

765
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: murdered and he's still alive. What, yeah, googled Kanye West murdered.

766
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Speaker 3: He said that he was murdered. Nobody told him. I

767
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: just it's a poem.

768
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, I wasn't. I just like spend

769
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Speaker 4: all that time watching that genius dock on Netflix, and

770
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 4: I was like, is that wasted time? Now? Is he

771
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: not here anymore?

772
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Billy, would you like to give all

773
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: your thoughts here on Aaron Rodgers? So so go with

774
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: Junior and Mikey. I can hear him. Let them react

775
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: to your thoughts on Aaron Rodgers.

776
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have a ton of thoughts on

777
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. I just I don't want to hear from

778
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: him anymore. Okay, Like we've been hearing these complaints for

779
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: two years. Last year, the two of us to guys

780
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: discuss how like he's just gonna end up backing Green

781
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: Bay because it's probably the best place for him.

782
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: Yep.

783
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: And he drove us through this whole thing all this time,

784
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 3: all these complaints, and he just ends up right back

785
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: in Green Bay. And I just don't want to hear

786
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: it anymore. I don't want to hear from him next

787
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: year when they fail in the playoffs or two years

788
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: down the road, Like this is it, buddy, You got

789
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: your complaints out of your system. You chose to go

790
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: back now, zip it up enough.

791
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: Can we get a player that's willing to commit to

792
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 4: caring about stupidity the way that Aaron Rodgers clearly cares

793
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: about the content that goes out for Pat, Because like

794
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: remember a few weeks ago when that happened, when Aaron

795
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: Rodgers said he was coming up like Pat had been

796
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 4: on vacation, he was coming back on Tuesday. He said,

797
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: We've got a big best Rogers started putting out the

798
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: tenetive stuff and I tweeted it. I was like, Aaron's

799
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: doing Pat a solid right now and driving viewership for

800
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 4: that day where he basically came out and said, I'm

801
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: not making a decision. This feels like more of that.

802
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: So we need an NFL player who's going to be

803
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: willing to do this for stupidity, to try and control

804
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 4: a news cycle for the next calendar year to drive

805
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: clicks here.

806
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: Who would that player be? It's a great idea about you, Gojo.

807
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: Who would that potential player be? We need a player, Hm,

808
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: I don't know many players?

809
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: You do, Mike, Well, I know, I mean listen, Stu Gotts,

810
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 4: like you know, the gronkowskis like this feels like something

811
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: where Rob's always you know, even before he came back

812
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: to Tampa Bay. He's a guy with this kind of potential.

813
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: It feels like he'd be our speed.

814
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I think we need to aim lower, lower than

815
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 3: Gronk like, oh Bill, I don't know. I will share.

816
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: It's got to be a current player, that's what we're saying, right, Gojo,

817
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: it's got to be a current player.

818
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: I'll share player who's got options.

819
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll share this with you, gojoh And And this

820
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: isn't exactly fitting into the boxes that you want checked.

821
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: But as soon as the news came out yesterday, ste

822
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: Gott said we should hire Calvin Ridley for God Bless

823
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: Football next season.

824
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah we should, right, Yeah for shop. I mean, he

825
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: just cast himself eleven million dollars.

826
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: Well, but you're not going to offer him anywhere near

827
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: that is the thing.

828
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do anything exactly in the platform

829
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: all the same offer as Mikey A.

830
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: Rude. Are we hiring Calvin as a betting analyst?

831
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Mikey.

832
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: He's just there for studio guys.

833
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: Ye.

834
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: Ridley could start a gambling podcast today, Billy and make

835
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: up all eleven million.

836
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: Dollars that he just lost.

837
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't even know the finances of that. But

838
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't know that first time podcast make eleven million dollars.

839
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: My I mean Billy with with Draft Game with fan

840
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: Duel with bet with bet GM, Like, are you kidding

841
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: me listening here?

842
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: I don't think he could start a betting podcast because again,

843
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 4: once people found out that he was betting for the

844
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: Falcons to win in like an eighteen parlay, they probably

845
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 4: questioned his ability to put together like a competent game strategy.

846
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: But if I am one of those companies, I'm putting

847
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: him in an ad, Yes, like I am one hundred

848
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 4: percent said putting him in an ad like when Hulu

849
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 4: did those live sports ads with the money guns. That's

850
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: what I want for Calvin Ridley here in the future, because,

851
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 4: like he said, he gets a year for the body

852
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 4: to recover. Right now, he is going to come back,

853
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: I think, a fan favorite for a lot of this stuff,

854
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 4: and then he is going to hopefully have some bread

855
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 4: in his pocket from one of these companies using him

856
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: as an ad partner. So you gotta kid, you got

857
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: ki so fun. I took a year off the NFL

858
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: to do it boom.

859
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: See it's my it was best case scenario for the NFL,

860
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: Like you have to make an example of Calvin Ridley,

861
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: but the fact that it was just fifteen hundred dollars

862
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: and the guy who clearly doesn't know how to gamble

863
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: is the perfect scenario. Like the bookies laugh at you

864
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: when you put it in eighteen parlay, They laugh at you.

865
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: Oh god, you well, like that's I mean, that's the

866
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: reason everyone's man in the NFL too, right, is you're

867
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: lining your pockets with gambling money. Now everybody is in

868
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: on the gambling process here in the NFL's brass and

869
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 4: we're still going to treat any instance of a player gambling,

870
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: which again he should be suspended for that, like you

871
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: have to set some sort of a precedent. But in

872
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: the grand scheme what he did, Like the NFL's own

873
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: investigation didn't find some deep cover up of him throwing games,

874
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 4: like a couple of asenine tweets yesterday wanted to insinuate

875
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: like this was just a guy who was bored during

876
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: his downtime and threw together a parlay. You're not supposed

877
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: to do it, but if you're gonna be the NFL,

878
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 4: in the league that does gambling. Now, there's probably room

879
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: for a little nuance in the way that we approach

880
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: punishment knowing what he did wasn't on that bad Mike.

881
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: Maybe there is, But I'll say this, the first guy

882
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: who does it, who did it, and it was Calvin Ridley,

883
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 2: you have to come down hard on that person.

884
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: Well, he wasn't the first guy who did it. So

885
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: Josh Shaw was a lesser known player got suspended a

886
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. He was in the NFL. Is consistent.

887
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 4: He got suspended a year. But like Stu Gott's, this

888
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 4: is like marijuana in the NFL. Whereas society has changed

889
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: the way they looked at it, we've relaxed the way

890
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: they've punished it. Society is changing the way they look

891
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 4: at gambling. So while you if the NFL have to

892
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 4: protect the integrity and all that stuff, a guy betting

893
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: an eighteen parlay is not the attack on that now, Mike.

894
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: But gambling is for me, and it's clearly in the CBA.

895
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: It's not for the players to gamble their own sport.

896
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: It's for me, and I love to gamble, and I

897
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: love to gamble on Sundays and I want to know

898
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: that what I'm gambling on is pure, that it's not

899
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: affected by anything Like Mike. You can't you can't even

900
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: have the thought of your fans thinking that somehow this

901
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: thing is rigged, even just a little bit, that is

902
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: bad for the NFL. So they had to come down

903
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: hard on them.

904
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: Well, that's also why the NFL made it abundantly clear

905
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: in the way that they presented this. Hey, with all

906
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: the information, they were, as you know, appearing transparent because

907
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: there could always be something else, but they appeared to

908
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: be very transparent saying it took place in this window,

909
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 4: it was executed in this way, and it involved him

910
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: doing this money. They mentioned be very specific because I

911
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: think there's also an admission that when they lay it

912
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: out specifically like an eight team parlay and the way

913
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 4: they framed it, they're acknowledging. Hey, the larger public's going

914
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: to understand this more because again, gambling's more prevalent now.

915
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: The NFL putting its name in partnership with gambling, is

916
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: trying to make it more accessible because they make money.

917
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: So all I'm saying is they've admitted on their own

918
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: in the way that they've presented this, You've got a

919
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: public that's capable of discerning that, and so I think

920
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: the punishment should reflect this. This is not someone again

921
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 4: we saw ties of him throwing the game. I get

922
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: you want to protect against that, But Steve Gott's I

923
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: guess I'm also saying that might be a bit of

924
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: an antiquated notion, like Rea for madness, that anything surrounding

925
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 4: gambling is automatically an indictment of the integrity of the product.

926
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: What should the suspension be in your mind then, I mean.

927
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: You could sell me on like half the season, you

928
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 4: could sell me on a fair amount of games and

929
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 4: all that. But Stecott's and listen, you guys and Dan

930
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: talk about this all the time on the Levatard Show.

931
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: Like the NFL also gets itself in a lot of

932
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: trouble here, because when you have domestic violence suspensions that

933
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: are far less than this for something that, from a

934
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: very human perspective, is far worse, You're always going to

935
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 4: lose that way in the court of public opinion.

936
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: Also, right, attack the Flora situation the same way you

937
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: attack this situation essentially, right.

938
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: Well, and yeah, I mean when you've got that in

939
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: the background, and like the allegations, and again they were

940
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: only allegations from Ryan Flora is about Steven Ross paying

941
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: him to tank. Like, when you've got those things, you're

942
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: always going to appear inconsistent. I get that's the heavy

943
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: is the head thing for the NFL, but I just

944
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: think in this instance, if you're gonna be the place

945
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 4: that does gambling, you could start to look at all. Right,

946
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: there's different levels we see that. Not everything is, you know,

947
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: this large scale collusion to affect the outcome of games

948
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: type thing.

949
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: But we agree gambling on your team that like active

950
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: player gambling on your team, not yes, oh.

951
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like listen, he absolutely earned a suspension, that's no doubt.

952
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: We all agree that is bad and you can't do that.

953
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 4: And the NFL tells you, like there's signs in every

954
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: facility telling you not to do this. So there's also

955
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: the obvious nature of that.

956
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: I have two sets of odds for your courtesy of

957
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: Don Van Nada. I mean, he's the one who tweeted

958
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: them out. Okay, here's the next league to suspend a

959
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: player for gambling.

960
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: The next league, Okay, I.

961
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: Have the NBA at plus one fifty, the NFL at

962
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: plus two hundred, MLB at plus two fifty and the NFL.

963
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the NHL hockey was plus two hundred, MLB

964
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: plus two fifty, the NFL plus four fifty. Who you got?

965
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: If I had to bet one, NBA probably seems like NBA.

966
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, that's shaking his head.

967
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: No, I think it's gonna be hockey.

968
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 8: It's gonna be the NHL. A lot a lot of

969
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 8: bet it goes on in hockey. Remember, was it? Gretzky

970
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 8: caught up and a whole bunch of stuff there? I

971
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 8: think that's I think that's your winner.

972
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 5: Are you?

973
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Are you telling us that Gretzky would be clear? Gretzky

974
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: being caught up there? What happened? Yeah? Exactly? Did Gretzky

975
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: bet on hockey games? What happened?

976
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: He was part of some big casino thing. Wasn't that

977
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: a big deal? Am I remembering that wrong? Phlly take

978
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: this out if I'm wrong.

979
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: I hope you're not wrong for your city. Keep it

980
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: all in Bill, especially if it's wrong. Here are the odds,

981
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: according to Don Van Nata. Next NFL personnel to be

982
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: suspended for gambling Antonio Brown, I told you plus three fifty.

983
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham Junior plus five hundred, So mean Deshaun Watson

984
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: plus plus six fifty, Jamis Winston plus seven hundred, Robert

985
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: Kraft plus eight hundred, Sammy Watkins plus eight hundred, John

986
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: Gruden plus nine hundred.

987
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 4: What I will say this Jamis seems like a likely

988
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: candidate just because we already had instances on his record

989
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: of him not necessarily knowing what appeared to be obvious rules.

990
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: Like remember when he was supposed to be serving a suspension,

991
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: I think it was at Florida State and he showed

992
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: up in full pads before the game, and we had

993
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: that image of Jimbo Fisher having to like send him

994
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: back to the locker room because clearly you cannot be here.

995
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: H it is crazy.

996
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen again, though, Mike. It's gonna It's gonna

997
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: happen again.

998
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: Honestly, Like I don't know if it will because this

999
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: is a pretty public example of it. Like, but every Like,

1000
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: if you really want to gamble on sports, if you're

1001
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: an NFL player, I'd imagine your brother or mom or

1002
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: cousin could get very good at sports gambling very quickly

1003
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: out of nowhere.

1004
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like a Burner gambling account.

1005
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: I just just have Mom place the bet, like, no

1006
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 4: one's gonna take down Mom.

1007
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: I think I think the Gretzky story was his wife

1008
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: placing bets.

1009
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I was right kind of which, by the way,

1010
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: if he got in trouble for that, then there goes

1011
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 4: my theory about having the family member place the bets.

1012
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe don't have them get too good.

1013
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: Mike Ye give us the details here of the Russell

1014
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: Wilson trade. I can't believe it. Big news breaking.

1015
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: Robert David Rodgers has to be so pissed right now.

1016
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: By the way, I love that this is happening.

1017
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 4: And who is angrier right now? Aaron Rodgers or Mina Kimes,

1018
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: Pat McAfee.

1019
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: Wow, I bet you Aaron Rodgers is calling someone. He's like,

1020
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: did we sign this yet? Like can we still change

1021
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 3: our minds?

1022
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: Maybe?

1023
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: Hulla good in Seattle.

1024
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: He's going to.

1025
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 4: Retire for a week.

1026
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you had Brady hooked up on truth serum,

1027
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: do you think he was he was mad at Brian

1028
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: Flores for doing that at the day of his retirement, Like.

1029
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: Oh, godds, yes, had to be.

1030
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh, it's why he's gonna come back and play for

1031
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: the Niners, so you can do it again.

1032
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: Think think about Brady went through all that consternation of

1033
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: like that weekend of like trying to basically deny the

1034
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: initial Darlington and Schefter report, only to come out and

1035
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 4: have your retirement trounced by that.

1036
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Mikey, Hey, what were the details here? What did according

1037
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: to the Seahawks getting return.

1038
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 8: According to multiple reports, it's Russell Wilson in a fourth

1039
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 8: round pick in exchange for two first round picks, two

1040
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 8: second round picks, a fifth round pick, quarterback Drew Lock,

1041
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 8: defensive tackles Shelby Harris, and former first round tight end

1042
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 8: Noah Fant.

1043
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: Wow, Mike, the Broncos are. It's kind of like what

1044
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: the Rams did. The Broncos feel like they're close. Von

1045
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: Miller is now, you know, flirting with re signing with

1046
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. You've heard those rumors. The Broncos feel

1047
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: like they're close. They're quarterback away, they have good receivers,

1048
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: they have a good defense. It feels like they're kind

1049
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: of doing with Sean mcvagan the Rams did going after

1050
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, like, hey, take all our draft picks. We

1051
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 2: need a quarterback Russell Wilson's available, and they get Russell Wilson.

1052
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: That's a great move by Denver.

1053
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really interesting because we've spent a lot of

1054
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 4: time asking that question of who was going to do that,

1055
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: and I always thought Indianapolis was going to make the

1056
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: most sense just because they had more to work with.

1057
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: But we've all talked about it, like personnel wise and

1058
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 4: losing Fant certainly dings that a little bit. But personnel wise,

1059
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 4: on offense, the Broncos, if they had a quarterback, look

1060
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: like a potential like top eight, top five unit in

1061
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 4: the NFL. Considering you've got Jerry Judy Hamler. You know,

1062
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: an offensive line that's improved a ton, although Sneaky did

1063
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: not choose to bring back Yeah, Pat Sutton and they're like,

1064
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: but sneaky on that offense. One of the things I'm

1065
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: worried about, and a familiar issue for Russ is offensive

1066
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: line that Unitt got better. But Mike Munchek, who is

1067
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 4: one of the like I think two or three best

1068
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: O line coaches in the NFL, Nathaniel Hackett decided not

1069
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 4: to bring him back. So that's an important hire to

1070
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: watch going forward. But this should be one of the

1071
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: you know, if Russ returns to form, because part of

1072
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: last season was also on him. He didn't play well

1073
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: for large.

1074
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: Stretch, Right, But you don't think Russ is done right?

1075
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Like he will all turn the form, right?

1076
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 4: I think so? I mean especially like look at you know,

1077
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett coming over part of that Packers offense that

1078
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 4: you know certainly had Aaron Rodgers, but seems pretty quarterback friendly.

1079
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: We'll do a lot of things that Russ naturally does well.

1080
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: I want you guys to think about the AFC West.

1081
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: Now you have Russell Wilson, you have Derek cole Are,

1082
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: you have Herbert and you.

1083
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: Have Patrick Mahomes.

1084
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: It's the exact reason that Aaron Rodgers needs to stay

1085
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: in the NFC North. Like, that's what that's what Russell

1086
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: Wilson has to deal with moving forward. Now he leaves

1087
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: a division that was pretty good, but he joins a

1088
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: division that is now, at least in my opinion, much

1089
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: more difficult.

1090
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: Like it's what his old division used to be though, Right,

1091
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: that's probably why Russ isn't all that afraid of it.

1092
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 4: Like Aaron Rodgers has had a relative cake walk through

1093
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: the NFC North for the last recent stretch here. But

1094
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: Russ is used to kind of having to deal with

1095
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: the NFL's thunderedome every year in the NFC West. So

1096
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 4: now that basically just cements the fact that the AFC

1097
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 4: West in that division.

1098
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: For them and mikey A, we sit there without a quarterback.

1099
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: I wanted Russell one more. I thought that, gents, we're

1100
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: gonna get him.

1101
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: I did Wilson for Wilson straight up right now.

1102
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: You guys are out on Zach Wilson, like Sims tells

1103
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 3: you every time. He's always said he's going to be good.

1104
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but yeah, I mean listen, like what

1105
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 4: what went right for you guys around him last year?

1106
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: Like first year head coach, offensive line whose best players

1107
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: got banged up early. Defense that was pretty banged up

1108
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: early on for the most part. Like, I don't think

1109
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: the jury's out on Zach at all.

1110
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's out. But Mike, when you're great,

1111
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: you're great. Like Joe Burrow came into a really bad

1112
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: situation and he made them great right away. No offensive

1113
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: line know nothing.

1114
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: They weren't great. They weren't great last year. Well he

1115
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: got hurt. We're trending in a better direction, but they

1116
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 4: got hurt. But they weren't going to make the playoffs

1117
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 4: last year.

1118
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: No, Mike, I know, but but I would equate like

1119
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: the Jets situation to the Bengals. They did the same

1120
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: kind of franchise and Burrow made them good and relevant instantly.

1121
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson is not. I know, he wasn't great and

1122
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: they weren't great last year, but he got injured. First year,

1123
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: he's healthy, sixteen games, gets Jamar Chase and they're playing

1124
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. I mean, if you're great, you're great.

1125
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 2: You'll make any situation great.

1126
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 6: No.

1127
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like you just mentioned all those other parts,

1128
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 4: what on the Jets offense resembles Jamar Chase or even

1129
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: T Higgins or even Tyler Boyd.

1130
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: At this point, I love it.

1131
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 3: God.

1132
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: One more note about the Seahawks Denver trade to take

1133
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 4: it away from the Jets. Denver plays in Seattle this year.

1134
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: Oh bench game for Drew Locke.

1135
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: That so much playing.

1136
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: By the way, guys, Aaron Rodgers like, you can't sign well,

1137
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: Mike explained to us, because I think a lot of

1138
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: people are confused. Okay, you wanted better players, you wanted

1139
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: more players, Yet you just took up two hundred million

1140
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: of the dollars. Now, I know it's a and I

1141
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: don't know how they explained it, like, hey, it's a

1142
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 2: cap friendly deal at two hundred million, and now Aaron

1143
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: Rodgers has made four hundred and fifty four guaranteed million

1144
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: dollars throughout his career. I think Brett Ford made one

1145
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: hundred and forty for his entire career, and I think

1146
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will eclipse that in the.

1147
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: Next four years.

1148
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: But Mike, how is this a cat friendly deal? Like

1149
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: how the packer's supposed to maneuver and they their team better?

1150
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: Because now Aaron Rodgers has to win that second Super Bowl.

1151
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: He has to do it. Oh, he absolutely has to.

1152
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: I mean, Stu, listen, I'm not familiar enough with the

1153
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: like expecifics of the accounting, but I mean we've seen

1154
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 4: those things like void years at the end of contracts

1155
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 4: be used to spread out this financial hit, like all

1156
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: of these things. And again we're still waiting for the

1157
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: final numbers. Like obviously people have seen the four years

1158
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: two hundred million of one hundred and fifty three guaranteed.

1159
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 4: But the more money you guarantee, the more you can

1160
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: spread out over the life of that contract. You can

1161
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: spend time constantly restructuring if you know someone's going to

1162
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: be there. The Cowboys just did that this morning for

1163
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 4: you up twenty two million dollars in cap space by

1164
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 4: handing Dak a check for fifteen million and Zach Martin

1165
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 4: to check for seven million dollars right now that they

1166
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: can basically amortize over the life of that contract. So

1167
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 4: they'll be able to do that. But you know, it's

1168
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: still this is like you mentioned with the rough situation

1169
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: in Denver. Now this is still i think more akin

1170
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: to the situation you've gotten Los Angeles, because this isn't

1171
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 4: going to be tenable forever. Eventually, you can't rob Peter

1172
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: to pay Paul enough to avoid getting into situations like

1173
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: you know the Saints were in for the last few years.

1174
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 4: So this will give them enough money to probably you know,

1175
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: figure out a way to either resign or tag you know,

1176
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 4: Devonte Adams. Here in the immediacye, I'd imagine there's probably

1177
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: a fair amount of impetus to get a deal done

1178
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 4: if you're green Bay on that and get him signed

1179
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: to something long term. But yeah, there's absolutely pressure on

1180
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 4: them to win. Now, that's gonna be the case every year.

1181
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is there, DK Metcalf, is he looking to

1182
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: get out of Seattle right now? Tyler Lockett like, who

1183
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: do you feel worse for today?

1184
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 8: Well?

1185
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 4: DK already kind of was given off the vibes that

1186
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 4: he didn't want to be there at the end of

1187
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: last season, right, Yes, Like that seemed to kind of

1188
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: be the case. Everyone's sort of looking at this. It's

1189
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: gonna be interesting for Seattle to now because this was

1190
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: a situation where it always felt like you were either

1191
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 4: backing Pete Carroll as your horse or backing Russell Wilson

1192
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: as your horse. Because what changed from last year to

1193
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: this year? Stu Gott's with them like they left last

1194
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 4: offseason with Russ, you know, cryptically giving out the five

1195
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: teams he'd accept the trade to right and seeming like

1196
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 4: he was pissed off the direction of the franchise, and

1197
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 4: nothing changed, like Green Bay's front off is totally reversed

1198
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 4: course and said, hey, this guy won the MVP. We

1199
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: love you like that. Now the consistent message was we

1200
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: want you to stay. Nothing changed about Seattle, so this

1201
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: shouldn't be all that surprising. To anybody involved, and it

1202
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 4: appears to be because like they didn't demonstrate a willingness

1203
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 4: to change, and we know change there kind of begins

1204
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 4: and ends with Pete who's been pretty stuck in his

1205
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 4: ways for a while.

1206
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: Why would you choose Pete Carroll over Russell Wilson, Like

1207
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: he's seventy I know that obviously, Russell Wilson's not going

1208
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: to have like he's not going to play at least

1209
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: forty five. But it's a good point. It's going to

1210
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: be in the NFL longer than Pete Carroll, isn't he.

1211
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: I think so? And like I don't know what you're

1212
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 4: counting on here now, and like the whole reset and

1213
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 4: having to go find a new quarterback and then establish

1214
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: that underneath. Because I saw dan Orlofski pointed this out

1215
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: the other day. It's not like the Seahawks draft overly well,

1216
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 4: like since that early run of Carol when they were

1217
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: nailing late rounders and undrafted free agents to build the

1218
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 4: Super Bowl teams, that hasn't been a huge part of

1219
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 4: who they are. So I really don't know Bill that

1220
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: one's the head scratcher, because it always felt like and

1221
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: we don't know if that was the crux of it

1222
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: or not for Russ, but if it was and all

1223
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 4: of a sudden you decided you wanted to stick with

1224
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: Pete instead of you know, cutting that head off to

1225
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: make Russ happy. Here that I'm not really gonna understand.

1226
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: That, and you're not so certain like how valuable those

1227
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: first round picks are going to be that Denver sent

1228
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: over to Seattle, because you have to assume that Denver's

1229
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: gonna be really good, Mike, Like, you have to make

1230
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: that assumption that Denver's gonna be championship good. I'm not

1231
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: saying they're gonna win a championship. Well, they'll be one

1232
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: of those teams that people talk about before the season starts.

1233
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: Yet that could be a Super Bowl coetender.

1234
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 4: Absolutely right away, because I mean, that defense, it had

1235
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 4: gotten too a place. And again, you know, changing coach,

1236
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 4: you go from Vic Fangio, who was a defensive minded

1237
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 4: head coach, but that was a unit that really, even

1238
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: after you know, von Miller left for Los Angeles, had

1239
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: been a really rock solid unit. And you know, basically

1240
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: across all three levels had done a really good, consistent job.

1241
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 4: So you kind of count on them even in a

1242
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: league where defense is the hardest thing to sustain year

1243
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 4: to year.

1244
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: You made a great point with the Packers front office.

1245
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: They made a mistake. They drafted Jordan Love. They did

1246
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: not tell Aaron Rodgers they were doing it. But everything

1247
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: they've done since since they knew Aaron Rodgers was upset.

1248
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: They've done all the right things, Mike, Like they're desperate,

1249
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: they had to do the right things. But you have

1250
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: to give them credit for actually doing all the right things.

1251
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: You know well, and like a lot of people balk

1252
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 4: at that notion ste gods, but like are we forgetting

1253
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 4: that this is a league full of very stubborn people

1254
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 4: with power, Like how easy have we seen so many

1255
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: organizations who just will not display any willingness to change

1256
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: or go against their plan? Like, yeah, Aaron had a

1257
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: lot of power in the situation and he used it.

1258
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 4: But the Packers just also like they cut their losses right,

1259
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 4: they understand, all right, Jordan Love is gonna be a

1260
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 4: sunk cost. We're gonna have to just wear that ol.

1261
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 4: But a guy just went back to back MVPs for us, Like,

1262
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: we're not that dumb and stubborn, So they deserve some credit.

1263
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 4: Maybe not a ton but like you said, we see

1264
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 4: plenty of examples of teams that are not willing to

1265
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: change course on something, especially something like this. Your quarterback

1266
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 4: basically publicly embarrassed you with the way that he talked

1267
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 4: about you for a while.

1268
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: I am rooting for Jordan Love to be traded and

1269
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: go on to have a Hall of Fame career somewhere else?

1270
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: Are you san Francisco?

1271
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? If Brady doesn't go there.

1272
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1273
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: If Brady doesn't go to San Francisco, he goes to

1274
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers wins two Super Bowls to Aaron's

1275
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: one in Green Bay. I don't even know why this

1276
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: week it's come about that I dislike Aaron Rodgers.

1277
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: You hate him?

1278
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: Do? I? I feel like I voicing like I do,

1279
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: but like I don't really have an opinion about him.

1280
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: He's just he's there.

1281
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 4: Well, like I don't know if I don't know, like,

1282
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 4: do we hate Aaron Rodgers as much as everyone's just

1283
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: really like he's like an overplayed top forties.

1284
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: Song, right, I don't think, Yeah, I don't think we

1285
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: hate Aaron Rodgers. I think we're annoyed by Aaron Rodgers.

1286
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is, is I just don't

1287
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: like that he seems to just constantly need attention, and

1288
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: it's like you're fine, Like you get enough attention, You're good.

1289
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: All this was about Randall Cobb and fifty million a year.

1290
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 4: That's all it was.

1291
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: And that's I think that annoys people, you know.

1292
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: I mean, well people legitimately like hated like the COVID

1293
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 4: misinformation stuff and like the immunized thing like that was

1294
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 4: legitimately bad. But yes, the rest of it's just annoying.

1295
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: You're right, wasn't the.

1296
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: Final straw like two years ago when he was most upset,

1297
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: like a like a practice squad tight end or something

1298
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: that didn't get resigned that he was mad about for

1299
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: some reason. It's like they needed to consult me before

1300
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: releasing this versus like why.

1301
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: Well, and you know what, Bill, Like that's so true

1302
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: because it was just a way of the mill. But

1303
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 4: it was one of those things that that was probably

1304
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 4: just like the straw that wrote the camel's back, right,

1305
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 4: because it had been Jordy Nelson before that, and then

1306
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 4: it was that quarterback coach that he really liked, and

1307
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 4: he just was TV Telly's looking for anything to be

1308
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: pissed off about, and that practice squad tight end just

1309
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 4: got to be the dude.

1310
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: And really want to boil down to it was Aaron

1311
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: Rodgers just wanted fifty million a season, that's all.

1312
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 4: Was like me too, like if you can do it,

1313
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: like like other people like pointing at Brady saying he

1314
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 4: took less for select stop. Don't do that. Oh, we

1315
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: don't have to do that, Like that's realistic or normal.

1316
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: But there was no payoff, Mike. That's the frustration shit.

1317
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: Like the payoff would have been go somewhere else, go

1318
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: to Denver, go to San Francisco.

1319
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 4: There was no payoff.

1320
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: The payoff is I'm gonna stay put and be the

1321
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: wealthiest man in the history of the NFL. And that's

1322
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: what's driving people like Billy crazy.

1323
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: Today.

1324
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: Here we go again. You're explaining why I'm so upset

1325
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: where I'm really just kind of sitting here, and you're like, oh,

1326
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: rip Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, forget down to brass tack. Not really.

1327
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 4: Why is Stu Gootts trying to pass off his dislike

1328
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 4: of Aaron Rodgers onto Billy.

1329
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: Now he wants me to hate him so bad.

1330
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 4: He's trying to use you as a surrogate for this

1331
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: take whoa I love Aaron Rodgers.

1332
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 3: I mean, let's see. Okay, so now we're getting for it.

1333
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: Frost your relationship with him because of Dan and Billy.

1334
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: But it has nothing to do with that.

1335
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: Okay, now we've got into it. It's he needs me

1336
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 3: to be the vessel to save the things that he

1337
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: wants to say, well, not endangering his own relationship with

1338
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: the Packers and Aaron Rodgers.

1339
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: But this is what should have. I can't believe it's

1340
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 4: taken us this long to get to this point with

1341
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 4: Stu Gotts. He's laundering takes. Of course, Stu Gotts would

1342
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: find his way to laundering takes, his greatest currency in

1343
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 4: life through somebody else.

1344
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: Well, and then we'll toss it up to me and

1345
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: it's like, well do I just say, like I don't

1346
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: really care because like that's not gonna go well, So

1347
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: like I just kind of have to write out this

1348
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: take that I don't really have, but he wants me

1349
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: to ask. It's like, okay, I can do that.

1350
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're Russell Westbrook, You're my meat shield. I

1351
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: mean you need to you need to take the blame

1352
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: on this Billy because we all want Aaron Rodgers and

1353
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: the Show again, do we not?

1354
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 4: I mean, so, it's gotta be you. It can't be me.

1355
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm the one who gets him.

1356
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: He's never gonna be on the main show again, we

1357
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: can agree, but he might.

1358
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: He might be on this show. I mean, only if

1359
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: you're not around.