WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Perfect Playoff Test? 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:14.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.479 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:27.280 Star in Frisco. Elliot Hellow to the Scots and now 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:32.040 your hosts Isaiah stand Back, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:37.120 and Kyle Yeomans. It is a wonderful Wednesday edition of 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:42.360 Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos, helping fans get in on 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.960 the game and our favorite ship and our favorite dip 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.479 of Talking Cowboys. Welcome everybody to the s WBC studios 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.120 at the Star in Frisco. We've got heck Ma Harrison, 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.560 We've got Isaiah stand Back, We've got Rob Phillips virtually again. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.520 I'm Kyle Yeoman's along with Chris Beam here for Talking 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.640 Cowboys today. Everybody, it is hump day in the Cowboys 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.560 in a short week, have just two more days to 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.560 rest up, prepare and get ready for the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.520 Still you're still not on It sucks. That sucks, man 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.679 Like he hates to day is like the first day 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.200 that your body is like okay, doesn't hurt his back 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.560 he could do this again. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:22.960 it doesn't hurt his bag, And now you're all of 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.800 a sudden seventy two hours. But wait a minute, you 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.160 gotta do it again. Wait a minute, here we go again, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.319 seventy two hours. For now we're gonna be playing again. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.320 When you think about it, too, there's going to be 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.920 a Monday wild Card game this year as well. There's 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.280 a Monday Night wild Card game. And because of the 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.399 Monday Night Wildcard game, there's a good chance that the 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.760 team that wins that Monday Night game would then turn 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:46.319 around and play the number one seed on Sunday, which 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.640 means you would have six days of rest coming off 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.920 of a Monday night game against the best team, playing 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.200 against a team that has two weeks of rest and 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.160 the best record in whatever conference there in a man, well, 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.640 that sucks well, But but the thing is like, say, 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.280 for instance, if we play on Saturday, and obviously I 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.920 don't know how the seating is gonna go for the 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.800 weekend playoff games, but if we get the let's say 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.239 the Monday night game, that's an additional day of rest 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.320 for this team. Yeah, you'd have what would that be? 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.320 Nine days then basically yeah, right, and then you turn 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.840 right back around and obviously on a short week again, 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.280 I mean, who's more who's more prepared for short weeks 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.799 than we are? Bro, That's true. They've been through it 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.000 a couple of times. Right, Come on, that's part of 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.839 the DNA here in Dallas, part of the DNA. Rob, 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.200 How are you doing out in the or Rob p 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:37.480 Island Studios out there, I'm doing I'm doing okay. I 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.320 wish I was in there with you guys. I'm doing fine. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.520 I'm doing fine. I'm just a board. The beard just coming. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.000 But hey, that's a good point. Like and you know 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.799 what though, Like if you're gonna tab a short week 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.959 and take it down, take it down, and maybe you 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.240 play next Sunday instead of Saturday, so get that extra day. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.280 The beard is coming back, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, you're 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.000 growing it out. What are you doing? Tell you look 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.880 at look at it connects on at the top. It 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.600 connects at the top. I'm telling you, Pete, you will 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.680 have a icy beard. Man, you gotta let that thing 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.760 come in. Man. He is let Rob Pa. He is 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.720 in chill more. He has a chill a sweater on right, 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:21.560 now on his face, chilling. He's got a volleyball named Wilson, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.600 like a couple of different things. Rob, I got my 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.160 a m slippers one. That's just a big party over here. Man. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:38.480 Just don't stand up Rose, all right, Rob, We're gonna 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.600 start with you. News and notes from yesterday. The Cowboys 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.320 had an opportunity to rest up a little bit, but 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.240 still trying to get that preparation turning around for Philadelphia. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.840 What was what was going on at the Star in Frisco. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.880 Not a ton of news and notes at the Star yesterday. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.960 A very small practice report, which is good news going 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.920 into week eighteen. And they only had a walk through yesterday. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.000 They were had a light light you know, kind of 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.520 jogged through a meeting on the field type thing yesterday 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.040 because of the short week, but only as Zeke is 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.120 on it, and he was a full participant, and you know, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.440 would have been a full participate with a regular practice. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.560 Jeron Curse and Tony Pollard would have been limited in 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.000 a normal practice. So they're pretty healthy and that if 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.159 that's one thing you want to point to given, you know, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.880 despite their struggles last Sunday and apprehension about how they're 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.599 gonna play heading into the playoffs, they've got to be 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.520 one of the healthier teams in the league right now. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.520 And that's uh, you know, with a disclaimer, everybody's trying 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.200 to dodge COVID, but from an injury standpoint, they're doing 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.200 they're doing pretty well. And Quinn Bill Hannah was back 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.080 off the reserve COVID list yesterday and Blake Jarwin's on 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.440 his way back as well. They've designated him for a 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.120 return from the IR list. How long do you think 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:58.520 that timetable looks like. I think he would probably be 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.560 back for the wildcard game things continue going well, if 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.359 not this week, you know, they started the window. It 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.840 is a short crunch this week, but the way Mike 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.240 McCarthy was talking, I think they feel pretty good about 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.279 getting him back fairly quickly in time for the playoffs. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.839 How big is that to have not only Blake Jarwin, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.080 I mean, or excuse me, Dalton Scholtz, because you're not 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.880 trying to replace Dalton Scholtz right now, but just to 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.680 have that rotation with another tight end that can mix 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.920 in with him and Sean McCune and guys like that 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.800 that are talented in that tight end room. That's major. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.640 I mean, because you have to remember the confidence level 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.840 that they have with Blake Jarwin. Know how much money 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.440 they paid him obviously is indicative of their confidence level 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.320 with him in his ability. So when you have a 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.400 player of that caliber, even though he hasn't necessarily been 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.480 that over the last season and a half, he still 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.800 has the potential to make contributions to this team on 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.400 a high level. So adding that element back into your 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.720 offense obviously is a huge benefit, and I think you 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.360 benefitial play design in rotation as well. From the tight 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.120 end perspective, I think we tilt our hand a little 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.200 bit with our tight end packages on what we're going 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.520 to do. Teams obviously know that Dalton Scholtz isn't the 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.640 best blocker that we have in the tight end room, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.320 so a lot of times they can dictate what we're 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.599 gonna run based off of those packages that we come 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.279 in with. And so look, I don't believe that Jarwin 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.839 is a superior blocker either, but I think from a 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.640 perspective of yards after catch and what he does with 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.120 the ball in his hands, I think he obviously is 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.200 an asset for the Dallas Cowboys offense. I think it 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.839 is something that the Cowboys could utilize because once again 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.240 it adds to the rotation. Then also remember the one 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.400 two punch that Scholtz and Jarwin had whenever they were together. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.680 You think about the taking the top off. I mean, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.960 they've been pushing Dalton Scholtz down the field a little 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.160 bit more as the season has gone along, but that's 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.880 still not his strong suit. Having both of those guys 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.200 on the field and two tight end sets could really 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.680 open things up, I think for Kellen Moore's offense. But 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.720 now I want to open up the floor a little bit. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.320 This wasn't on the rundown, but I do want to 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.520 hit it. Why do you feel like this loss to 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:04.799 the card set everyone's expectations back because I, and maybe 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.960 not everyone, but a good majority of fans out there 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.840 right now are so disappointed in the fact that you 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.400 lost to the Arizona Cardinals, you lost to a good team, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.240 that you feel like those expectations are starting to temper 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.600 a little bit. Not the case in the building. They're 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.000 still going for everything. Still, everything's out on the table, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.040 and that's what it should be. But do you feel 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.200 that you get that same sense that you feel that 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.040 the confidence level in the fan base surrounding this Cowboys 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.320 team took a massive hit whenever they lost to the 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.040 Cardinals the other day. I think anytime that you're you know, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.040 as fans, I think you know, when your team loses, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.000 you obviously take a hit, especially when you face a 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.960 team that's well respected and that you know puts out 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.760 a good product. And I think that's what happens around 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.280 fandom in regards to any team, not just the Dallas Cowboys, 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.360 but you know, especially when when when your team is 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.440 winning and you're going into the NFC race and you're 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.040 eight and one versus NFC, and then you all of 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.320 a sudden face a team that is at the top 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.160 of the rankings in their division and you lose, and 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.080 it's kind of a I guess I jo to to 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.440 your ego a little bit because you're like, crap, we 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.600 were riding high and all of a sudden, we have 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.520 to face the reality that this is what happens. This 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.960 is this is the evidence that's that's shown when we 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.680 face another good team or really good team that's that's 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.760 can considered to be one of the best in the league, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.640 in our in our conference. And so it's a reality 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.880 check and I think people would like to think that 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.960 Dallas is above and beyond most of these other competitors 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.120 around the league. And when you have games like this, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.200 you have to realize licking the mirror and say, crap, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.400 we got some work to do. Yeah, it's it wasn't 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.760 the expectation I think from from fans were just riding 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.440 high from the December four wins in a row and 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.160 then you all of a sudden, you have your heels 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.040 cooled a little bit by a team that going into 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.120 the game you said, look, this is a measuring stick game, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.600 and that's the way that it was being dubbed going 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.880 into Sunday. You lose that game, and your offense doesn't 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.319 fire the way that you wanted it to. Your running 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.080 game isn't there. You have so many things that you 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.959 can point to, and obviously, uh, all Cowboy fans are 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.120 you know, looking on social media and just hearing the 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.120 naysayers and what they have to say about this team. Um, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.840 if you do a close analysis or if you listen 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.240 close enough, man, these people will convince you that we're 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.840 the worst eleven and five team that's ever in the league, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.119 you know, and that we shouldn't be in the playoffs 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.400 and that everything is is one week is the Cowboys 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.080 super Bowl? Next week is they suck? You know? So 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.560 uh you know. My my take has been on this 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.240 is that when anytime you you look at this team, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.280 I do, I look at it in totality. I don't 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.800 look at this season as a sample size. I don't 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.680 go back five games. I don't go back three games. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.800 I look at the whole season. And if you can 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.760 do that, I think it puts a greater perspective on 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:51.120 where this team is right now. Rob, Yeah, I agreed, 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.480 and I think I think it comes down to really 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.719 the fact that they it's been ten games since they 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.319 beat a playoff team, and so that gives people a 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.440 lot of apprehension. They beat the Patriots right before the 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.320 bye week, and everybody was riding high, and you could 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.400 argue that's been kind of their signature win of the season. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.760 I want to say, they're like three and four this 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:17.200 year against teams with winning records, and obviously Arizona was 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.880 the most recent loss. But that gives fans apprehension, can 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.240 we beat the best teams in the league when we 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.120 have to? And I think that's I understand why fans 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.280 feel that way. And I think the other thing, too, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.000 is there has been an unsettling feeling around this offense. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.560 I think he just referenced that for weeks now, and 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.319 the Washington game kind of made everybody feel better for 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.120 a few days. But you ran into an Arizona team 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.679 that did a lot of good things schematically to stifle you. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.520 And I agree with the fact that you have to 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.840 look at the full six team games this season and 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.680 look at it and say, this team is awfully talented, 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.600 they are well coached, They're capable of beating teams in 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.520 the playoffs. I still believe that, but based on what 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:05.480 we've seen just now on Sunday, that's not gonna get 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.959 you far in the playoffs. And obviously that's why fans 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.880 are worried. And I understand that, and I'm glad you 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.600 phrased it that way because now it leads me into 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:20.640 my next question. Is this the perfect pre playoff game 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.120 for the Dallas Cowboys, the pre playoff matchup because it 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.400 is a playoff team. The Philadelphia Eagles are in the playoffs, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.000 they will be the six or the seven seed. They 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.319 also are above five hundred. You could add a win, 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.280 you could add some confidence against the team that's above 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.960 five hundred with a win against Philadelphia, and of course 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.199 you would be six and oh against your division, which 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.200 that bodes pretty well for confidence levels as well, first 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.800 time since nineteen ninety eight that they would be undefeated 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.920 against the NFC East. So, Rob, I'll start with you 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.920 on this one because of all these factors, because of 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.319 the opportunity that's in front of you for this Cowboys 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.520 team to build momentum, build confidence, and to win this 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.319 game in Week eighteen, do you feel like this is 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:04.480 the perfect lead into a postseason run. I don't know 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.280 about perfect lead in, but I think it's a good test, 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.040 especially provided if Philly gets back some of their key 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.520 guys they're currently on the COVID list. I mean, that's 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.840 another factor in this matchup this week, because we don't 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.560 know how many guys they're going to have or not 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.040 have in this game. But I agree with you in 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.000 the sense that this is a very tough place for 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.719 the Cowboys to play. Every single year, I've covered a 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.080 lot of games up there. Whether the Eagles are good, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:32.160 whether they're not so good, it's tough, and I would 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.840 argue that they're playing about as well as most teams 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.280 in the playoff field right now in the NFC. I 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:44.320 mean they offensively are playing more efficiently than the Cowboys 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.280 right now. I mean the Cowboys are more talented offensively, 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.360 but Philly's doing a nice job of balance and helping 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.640 out Jalen Hurts and all of those things. I think 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.280 it's a good test for the defense this week, and 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.080 just going up there in the cold and against and 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.040 that environment is a good test for the offense. It 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.480 always is. Yeah, And you know, when you do the 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.280 evaluation of the Philadelphia Eagles, you have to look at 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.120 the fact that they've played some of the same teams 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.400 that we've played in the last three weeks as well. Um, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.640 we get no credit for beating up on the Washington 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.520 football team, and I'm not gonna give him any credit either. Uh, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.280 you know, we're gonna take it. They don't deserve it. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.600 They don't. If we don't deserve it, they don't deserve 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.360 it either. Well. I agree with you Pee. You know, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.200 they've gotten some things going, especially with their running game 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.559 in Boston Scott Is. They found a way to make 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.160 him a weapon. I think maybe they have pulled back 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:40.400 the reins h so to speak on uh, Jalen Hurts, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.800 you know, just taking those short drop off passes. He's 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:44.920 done a really good job of those. And I do 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.199 agree that this offense is running with a bit of rhythm. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.920 But when you talk about this game being important to us, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.520 obviously you want to be six and oh and the NFC. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:56.640 I just want to see this offense get back on 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.640 That's that's all I care about. I want to see 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.040 that synergy continuity. I want to see all of those 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.080 things start to happen for this offense, because we know 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:09.040 going into the playoffs, if we don't forty five yards rushing, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.200 it just ain't gonna get it. Yeah, that's factual. I 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.120 don't want to give this Philadelphia A team a lot 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.320 of credit. I really don't. However, I have to face 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.440 the facts and acknowledge the fact that these guys are 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.200 playing well. They're playing good ball. We have two more 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.040 wins than they have on the year. We have allowed 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.120 only two less points than they have in terms of 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.280 defenses all year long, So you have to acknowledge as 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.520 good as our defense has been playing, their defense isn't 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.120 too far behind in terms of points allowed. These guys 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.440 have also scored almost as many points as a dog 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.640 on Cardinals and offensively, so you have to acknowledge the 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.520 fact that these boys are playing and with that you 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.800 better bring you better bring your dog on big boy pants. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.760 They have some guys that can disrupt some things on 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.640 both sides of the ball, and with the way our 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.520 momentum has been swinging, we have to do whatever Dallas 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.320 has to do, whatever it's possible to ensure that you 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.200 correct the those things, check those boxes that are simply 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.400 glaringly open right now, and address those problems so that 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.400 you can make sure that you are going into the 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.200 playoffs feeling the best that you possibly can, because you 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.240 can't expect to your team to go into the playoffs 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:15.840 and be like, oh, yeah, we're gonna fix everything that 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.800 we've been struggling with. Yep. No, those boxes have to 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.360 be checked before you get in there, so the light 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.600 don't just come home. Heck to the know, it's not 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.480 a flip of the switch. Yeah, And that's kind of 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.240 where I'm leading into it, because you would also have 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.480 not only an undefeated record against your division, but you 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.520 also have another road win under your belt, and you 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.080 know you're now you know, for the most part, you're 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.320 gonna have to win on the road in the playoffs. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.600 When the playoffs come around, more than likely you're going 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.240 to have to win at least one, maybe two playoff games. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.080 And going up in Philadelphia, like Rob said, is not 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.520 a tough task. It's a I mean, excuse me, it's 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.080 not an easy task to go up and win in Philadelphia, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.360 no matter what time of year it is, especially when 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.360 it's in the middle of January. Now, I kind of 0:15:58.360 --> 0:15:59.880 want to go back to what Heckman was saying about 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:04.800 the teams that Philadelphia had played Washington twice, New York twice, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.040 and they actually lost one of those games. They played 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.520 the Jets, they played the Saints, beat the Saints beat 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.800 the Broncos. So I mean, they've won four straight, they've 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:18.400 won six out of their last seven, But is it realistic? 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.240 Is it a legitimate worried the fact that they're playing 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.600 so well because these are not good teams and they 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.200 lost one to the Giants as well. It's an NFC 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.560 East opponent. You know they're gonna play us tough. It's 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.920 just what it is. We're playing in Philadelphia. They are 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:33.560 going to be waiting for us, and they are ready 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.600 and look in spite of everything that I'm saying about 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.160 the Beliegals, they have made the playoffs. May let's come on, 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:40.920 let's keep it real. They made it, and at the 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.040 beginning of the season it didn't look like it. They 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.120 didn't look like they were playoff teams, especially when we 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.560 beat them forty one twenty one. So to see the 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.840 way that they have rounded in the shape and gotten 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.240 into the playoffs, it's a testament to the fight that 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.760 this team has. Jalen Hurtz is playing good ball. He's 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.280 you know, not turning it over. And when you play 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.400 the Jets, the Aiance twice and the Washington football team, 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.040 come on, guys, it makes you feel a little bit 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.960 better at homecoming every week. For these guys to get 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.240 some of the opponents that they have, we just gotta 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.840 go in there and take care of business. It's right now. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.080 Even with the four game winning strick that we've had, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.520 our offense, as you could tell, guys, it's been sputtering 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.000 and slump whatever you want to call it, which you 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.879 just don't feel good about. Where you are defensively is 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.240 where we have to get back. I think Kyler Murray 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.440 just kind of I mean, we came up against a 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.639 juggernaut and of a player, and I think Jalen Hurts 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.600 has a lot of those same characteristics as well, and 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.959 so it's gonna be interesting. I just want to see 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.919 how Dan Quinn schemes up for the Eagles and is 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.040 it going to be a little similarities between the scheme 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.400 last week. 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And 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.320 is this a redo chance for this Cowboys defense against 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.680 a dual threat quarterback, and of course here this week 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.280 with the Philadelphia Eagles, we're talking about Jalen Hurts, and 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.440 I'll start with you, Isaiah, how do you feel like 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:08.280 the Cowboys learned from their mistakes against Kyler Murray last week? 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.680 And how will they translate that here in the week 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.119 eighteen went back and watched a lot of film in 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.639 terms of how Dallas was approaching and trying to handle 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:22.480 Kyler Murray. The defensive ends did a great job of 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.160 applying pressure. There is no internal pressure and we talked 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.520 about there earlier in the week, saying how against our 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.040 running quarterback, you have to have internal pressure and there 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.359 was no presence of that, and Kyler Murray recognized that. 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.000 There is also times, as you look at the film 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.239 when Jalen Hurts in particular, where teams are rushing one 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:45.080 defensive end up the field and their other opposing end 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.800 is either dropping it to coverage or they're coming and 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.760 getting caught into wash. So what does he see? He 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.320 sees one open side and he just takes off. He 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.400 has a lot of different options for him at his disposal. 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.159 In terms of how dan Quinn is going to approach that, 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.639 I think he has to get his dogs on the 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.720 interior to get things moving. Gallimore and Tristan Hill. Oh 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.280 so all the guns that are in the middle right there, 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.960 they have to step up and have the game of 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.280 their lives because they're going to see another running quarterback 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.720 the following week. We don't know who that is gonna be, 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.680 but it's gonna be another quarterback who has capability of 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.000 taking off and it might be that Kyler dude again. 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.200 And guess what Kyler's coming. Hey gonna have to come 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.359 back into AT and T Stadium where he loves it. 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.879 So they're gonna have to figure that out. And I 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.399 think that just addressing that aspect alone will make a 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.160 huge difference, because the defensive ends I feel actually played well. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.479 It's the interior alignment that need to step their game 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.200 up now. I mean, and I love that evaluation. What 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:45.479 I saw in looking at the game was for when 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.360 you talk about the defensive end playing alignment, assignment, making 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.159 sure that you don't bite too far down in And 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.879 you saw Randy Gregory those last two games to end 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.440 the game, he lost contained he hadn't been doing that 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.480 the entire game, and then that was what cost him. 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:00.600 I thought the pressure that up the middle from a 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:02.920 diggy Zool and Carlos Watkins. I think I thought that 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.359 they were trying to, you know, stay in their lane, 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.840 stay assignment sound and not over pursue and let him 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.600 out the back door, and that hesitancy, I think didn't 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:15.760 allow for that pressure to get up the middle of 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.919 the way that you're talking about. I think that they 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.680 can play Jalen Hurst the same way because you know 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:23.560 that the Eagles are gonna do a lot of design 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.880 runs with him. He had nine carries against us last 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.480 the last time we nine for thirty five was what 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.080 he did last time. And look, we have to we 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.520 have to have the same approach, but we have to 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:37.240 get home. We have to get pressure. We had two 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:40.359 sacks last time. Obviously we were able to create turnovers 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:44.480 as well, but that's gonna be really important. But Boston 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.000 Scott now as they're running back, I'm really interested to 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:50.520 see how we take him on. He you know, he's 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.320 bonafied as a rush. He's also bonafied as a pass 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.560 catcher out of the backfield. But you know, there's so 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.399 many things it's going to be happening in our on 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.200 the back half. I think that Dallas Goddard is a 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.320 legitimate weapon. I want to see how we handle that. 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.840 And obviously, you know, look, they've got some guys. Quiz 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.920 Watkins is someone that you cannot fall asleep on because 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.880 he will take it to the house. Obviously Smith DeVante Smith, 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.000 their first round draft pick from last year. So look, 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.560 it's gonna be another one of those games where defensively, 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.320 we could put these guys to sleep pretty quickly, but 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.560 we've got we got to make sure that we apply pressure. 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.040 We've got to get home. Both Boston Scott and Dallas 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:29.440 Goddard are in that COVID protocol at the moment, so 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.560 they could get back, but hopefully, I mean, I don't 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.480 want to say, I'm not gonna say it either way. 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.879 I hope they get back. Honestly, I want them to 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.879 get back because I want to see a realistic play scheme. 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.760 I want to see how the Cowboys answer the bell 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.160 in a week like this. But having both of those 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.720 guys out would change a ton of things on the 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.840 offensive side, but also up the middle with Jason Kelsey, 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:54.439 I mean, he's one of the best centers in all 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.119 of football, and he's also on that COVID list too. 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.000 That's why I kind of lead into it that way. 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:03.639 There were eighteen total pressures in that game against the 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.560 Arizona Cardinals, eighteen pressures from the Cowboys defense. Sixteen of 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.639 them came off the edge. Only two were in the middle, 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.480 and they were both belonging to Neville Gallimore. So that 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.600 interior pressure against this Philadelphia offensive line is going to 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.040 have some sort of have to have some sort of 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.439 success to really build that confidence. Rob Do you used 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.200 to see that even if Jason Kelsey's back and he's 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.040 playing as a realistic opportunity for the Cowboys on that 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:32.159 side of the ball. Absolutely, And we've talked about on 0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.720 the show before and Isaiah played the position. Sometimes that 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:39.520 middle pressure is more frustrating for a quarterback than the 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.080 edge pressure because there's really nowhere for you to step 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.080 up and go with the ball. He can't climb the pocket. 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.000 Those kind of things. I love Boston Scott. I think 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.640 he's he's kind of got a sprolls to his game. 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.399 And when you look at this the way this Eagles 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.720 offense is built, it's kind of built the way that 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.920 we've seen him build it the last fifteen years. Like 0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.640 like Heck alluded to some of the speed. They've got, 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.920 versatility at the running back position. Miles Sanders is out 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.720 right now, and obviously Hurts can beat you a bunch 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.680 of different ways. Michael Parsons was asked about him yesterday 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.640 and he said, you know, he Kyler's the more dynamic quarterback. 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.600 I mean, I think Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray are 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.640 probably in a different category than everybody else in terms 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.320 of what they can do as a dual threat. But 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:21.880 we know what he can do. I think I think 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:23.960 the Hurts can do. I think the biggest thing is 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.080 for the Cowboys, can they do this is run up 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.920 the score, get a lead early. That's what happened in 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.240 the first game. They got a twenty to seven lead 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.080 in the first half, and it forced the Eagles to 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.040 not be as balanced and do all those things you 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.440 know for Hurts that that's not ideal for him, and 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.480 they wound up only running the ball twelve times for 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:48.560 sixty four yards. Can the offense dictate what the Eagles 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.920 offense can do? And that's that's that's contingent on getting 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.320 off to a much better start than they did against Arizona. 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.840 What do you think about that? I agree I agree. 0:26:57.960 --> 0:26:59.639 I mean, I think that you can take him out 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.879 of his game. These guys, these guys have the recipe 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.280 that the thing that sucks about when you play against 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.440 quarterbacks that have the ability to beat you with their 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.520 feet is what Heckma said is the hesitation. And that's 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.680 what you know as well as a quarterback who possesses 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.520 those abilities, you know that you create hesitation. You know 0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:18.399 that these guys instead of putting their head down and 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.320 simply dipping and ripping and rushing and creating issues, now 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.560 they're gonna be you know, locking on with two hands, 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.160 and now they're gonna be picking over, packing over the shoulders, 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:27.960 and their feet slow down, their eyes get you know, 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.879 they get a little nosy, their feet slow down, the 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.640 rush stops. So you know that, and you know you're 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.280 going to have more time to throw the ball. You 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.080 know you're gonna have more time to step up and 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.320 step out and get outside the pocketing and you know 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.639 expand you know the duration of these plays, which in 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.159 turning allows for your receivers to get open against these 0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:47.399 dbs or get penalties against dbs because longer plays, I mean, 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.639 it makes it more difficult for dbs to defend. So 0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.160 you know that as an opposing quarterback, and that's something 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.959 that Dallas is going to have to try to instinctively 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.200 try to address. They're got to just say, hey, I 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.440 don't give a dog on who's back there at quarterback rolling, 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.040 And that's something that they're gonna have to correct. Yeah, 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.040 and when I do my evaluation, man, I go back 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.719 to the previous year, uh, and just breaking down one 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.639 last time we were in Philly, and the last time 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.040 we were in Philly, Bend Nucci was the starting quarter 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:21.240 Don't you forget it? We won't a knight? Yeah, what 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:26.439 a knight? We won't forget it Nucci? Man. And you know, defensively, 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.080 we had nothing going on. We could not get any stops. 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:33.240 Jalen Hurts was in his bag against us. But pressure 0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.280 we look Michael Parsons last week. This is the first 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.720 time that I was just like, man, it's Michael out there, 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:40.440 you know. But because of some of the things that 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.040 the Cardinals were able to do to nullify our pass rush, 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:44.640 and a lot of that was due to what we've 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.720 already discussed. These guys are just having to make sure 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.720 that they're in the lance and not let Kyle out. 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.280 This is a different guy in Jalen Hurts, and I'm 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.440 not saying that he's not a dual threat, because he is. 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.480 He could get out on you in a hurry. He's strong, 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.800 but he has a good arm and he wants to 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.720 try and make those plays again. I just want this 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.800 defense to obviously bring that same pressure that they had before. 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.560 Jeron Curse has got to be the great neutralizer that 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.720 he's been this entire season and making sure that, look, 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.520 we don't let these tight ends get off against us, 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.800 we don't let these these running backs get out of 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.920 the backfield. We've got to get sacks. We've got to 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:19.800 do the same thing that we did against them last 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.960 time and not allow them to get any rushing yards. 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.480 They had sixty four rushing yards the last time we saw. 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.880 Oh yeah, and see this is the number one rushing 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.240 offense in the league right now in terms of yards 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.320 per game. So you're gonna have to limit them again 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.120 like that. But how much better are the Philadelphia Eagles 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.320 since when you watch them in Week three and of 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.760 course going back to last year as well. Okay, all right, 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.880 they're not that much better. I mean, they really are. 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.120 I mean, and you and if we gotta be fair 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.880 about our evaluation that we go like, I mean, we're 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.320 the most critical evaluator in the room. Is that guy 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.000 right there? And so if it comes down to when 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.280 it comes down to, you know, with the camera, who 0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.920 they played against and the kind of ball that they played, 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.320 I mean, they opened up with points scored against them, 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.880 their defense got drove on. I mean, so it's not 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.120 as though they've been playing this impeccable ball, uh, this 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.000 entire run. If they've been you know, getting into the playoffs, 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:17.320 it hadn't happened like that. What Pete, No, I mean, 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.000 you're not wrong. I mean that there are playing there. 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.480 I agree they're playing better than they did early in 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.040 the season. But I just kind of go back to 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.760 if you get a lead on them, all that balance 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.800 and you know, one thing that's really helped Jalen is 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.960 play action and playing off their running game and all that. 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.960 If you're up twenty seven seven like they were in 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.920 Week three, that stuff goes out the window. So I 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.800 think I just think it's a lot it's contingent upon Dallas. Finally, 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.720 you get off to a good start, get you know, 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.160 get get up on them and force them to play 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:51.680 out of their covers on a little bit, just to 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.200 play devil's advocate here a little bit, Rob. I mean 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.320 last week against Washington, and I know Washington and Dallas 0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.480 are not the same teams by any means. We proved 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.120 that week sixteen, but they were up sixteen to seven 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.560 at the halftime break. They had built that lead, they 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.760 had had the momentum. They played really well in the 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.400 first half, but Philly was able to kind of find 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.560 their footing and then kind of charged back to the 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.320 lead and put up what it's that thirteen unanswered points 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.960 to win it. Uh? Do you see is there any 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.040 sort of improvement in that regard to the Philadelphia side. 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.040 So that way, if they do get down early on, 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.040 if the Cowboys do what you just said and jump 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:32.680 out to a lead, they still have an opportunity to answer, well, yeah, 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.760 and I mean give yeah, give them credit. And they've 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.320 they've got guys heck mentioned the guys they've got down 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.520 the field that can make chunk plays. It hurts you. 0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.120 I would just argue that that's Washington and this Dallas 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.640 defense when they're playing with the lead and you've got 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:52.440 Mike aten Off and Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence. That's 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.120 that's a world of hurt to potentially be it. So 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.479 that's that's when this defense is at it's best. That's 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.080 when this team is that its best is when they're 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.560 playing with the league and the chunk plays are dangerous 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.400 for us. And it is and we saw last week 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.640 and trey Von Hunt dis gave up the big play 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.920 to aj Green that if it had been out a 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:12.520 little bit further, it would have been just a walk 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.720 in touchdown for him. And that's been so much talked 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.640 about our secondary and the big plays that they give up. 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.720 One of the things that our defense can't afford to 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.240 do is give up those big chunk plays. At the 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.160 beginning of the game you watched last week, we gave 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.560 up a twenty six yard run to open the game, 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.600 followed it up by another run that was you know, 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.240 fifteen twenty yard run that changed field positions, set the 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.200 tone for the entire game. Those are just little things 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.240 like that. Just being alert and aware right from the 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.440 first bell is what I'm looking for this defense to do. 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.920 Philadelphia is sneaky in the sense, and I do believe 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.360 that they're better. I think they're substantially better now than 0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.160 they were earlier in the season when we faced them. 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.600 And one of the areas is that they are committed 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.880 to this run. They are They are diligent about establishing 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.960 the run, and they will lull you to sleep with 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.600 the run right, and they have the ability. It's it's 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.400 not just a running back that you have to worry about. 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:06.959 It's not just Scott, It's not just how are these 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.800 guys that you have to worry about, You obviously have 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.040 to take into account. They're dog on quarterback and they 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.120 have no he has no problem. He's strong, right, he's 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.920 a weight room guy. He has no problem running the 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.640 ball and getting downhill. He's not a quarterback who can run. 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.120 He's a quarterback who does run, and they utilize him 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.440 in that aspect. And I think that's where they're dangerous 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.640 because they will pound you, pound you, pound you, and 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.880 then all of a sudden, the chunk play right, and 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.040 it's discouraging. There's gonna be a lot of third down opportunities. 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.080 They are going to get into third down because they're 0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.080 not gonna throw big plays on first and second. They're 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.600 gonna run it, run it right, and there's gonna be 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.000 a third down and you're gonna get all hyped up, 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:39.719 get ready to get off the field, and then they 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.720 poom they run it again, or they have a chunk 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.800 play and now it's back to another set of downs, 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.360 and they keep doing it over and over and over again, 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.000 and they are okay having patience in that regard. That's 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.600 where Philly is dangerous. So to you guys's points, you 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.959 are heck when and Rob you have to get up 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.240 on these guys just like you did it earlier in 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.040 the season. And I like, I think I completely agree 0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.480 with what you just said. And that's a um when 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.240 you break them down that way. But I think they 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.560 went to the running game because they had to rely 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.239 on guarding to miss you. At a point in the season, Uh, 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.560 they were, they were getting killed. The turnover differential was 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.279 was was not favoring them at all, and so they 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.879 had to go and rely on what they do best. Look, 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.200 the strength of the Philadelphia Eagles team is their defense 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:25.160 and offensive line. They are strong upfront. Uh, And that's 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.359 why you can't let them get gone. That's what I'm saying, 0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.000 that you can't let them get going. That's so even 0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.160 though they were forced to identify they and forced to 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:35.719 go back to the run light bulb. Yeah, Oh dang, 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:37.840 I guess we do have that. Maybe we need to 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.520 go back and figure that out too. An office a 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.920 line for Kella Moore. Sorry, Rob, do you have something 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:48.200 that came out? No? No, I agree, I agree. That's 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.360 a that's a good point too about how you know, 0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.000 they they probably had to shift things around with the 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.360 quarterback change early on, but they you know, they they 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.680 want to get the RPOs going, they want to move 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.960 the pocket and get get gently kind of on the 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.319 move and those things. So it's all really it's been 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.160 a nice flow for them. But again, like this defense, 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.640 when it's playing at their best, is a different challenge 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.880 than what they faced the last four weeks. 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Yeah, so that way 0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.839 he can do the read tomorrow, so we can maybe 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.560 do that. We don't know his Friday is his day 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.719 is Friday. I'm on Friday. Tomorrow is our last day show. Yeah, 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.319 we don't have shows on Friday. I will probably be back. 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:32.480 It's it's gonna be Monday on Friday, like, oh, okay, Monday, Chris. 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:34.960 Chris just said we have shows on Do you do 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.000 have a show on Friday? Oh dude, nice? All right, 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.200 get you mister vacation. It's awesome. Well, Chris told me 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.719 earlier in the week they were canceling show. No, I 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.320 never said d right here and I was standing in 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:51.279 that I said, I said, I have not talked to Derek. Yeah, see, 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.359 depending on flights. I don't I don't think. I don't 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.120 think that's what I don't think that's what I saw 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.600 you reading that number. I am happy under the bus 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:06.560 right now and backed it up. But that's okay. I'm 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.160 happy to have a day off, and he's like, oh, ruling, Yeah, 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.400 I just always definitely gonna be a Colorado. I definitely 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.600 deserve it, all right. Is this defense good enough to 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:20.480 win without takeaways? Because you were mentioning you were mentioning 0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:24.160 earlier in the show yardage middle of the pack, which 0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.319 they are middle of the pack, even lower of the pack. 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.160 They've given up the big play, but they don't get takeaways, 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.600 which they've had four games this year where they haven't 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:34.560 had a takeaway, which is pretty darn good. That means 0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.440 they take the football away quite a bit. And we 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.319 knew that that was the calling card for this dan 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.399 Quinn defense. But when they don't get it, how much 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.239 of a factor does that have on that side of 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:48.400 the ball. It's major because it's complimentary football, right, and 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.200 this is a three portion game. It's three aspects and 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.040 three obviously contributors to this game. Offense, defense, special team. 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.200 When your defense is not able to create the turnovers 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.560 that you have been dependent on them to create, in 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.520 your offense is not putting up the points that they're 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.960 capaball and putting up it makes it more difficult for 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.920 this team to win ball games. It really does. In 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:12.239 that case, that is not complimentary football, not it is, 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.080 you know question, it's you know. The one thing about 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.040 that is it sounds so absolute when you say, oh, 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.479 can you guys win if you don't get takeaways? People 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.880 win their teams winning every Sunday that don't get a takeaway. 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.160 It's all contingent on Obviously, you know, at the beginning 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.640 of the season, we're talking about how explosive our offense was, 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.240 and obviously the defense was not. It's a pleasant surprise, 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.719 and all of these takeaways are as well, but you 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.719 cannot count on them. What you can count on is 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.880 getting off the field on third downs. That's what you 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.280 can do. And regardless, if we don't get any turnovers, 0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.720 we have got to go back to that our formula 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.520 and you look at our losses, go back to the 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.280 Denver game or the Las Vegas game. Slow methodical drives 0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:57.320 have killed us and we cannot continue to allow that. 0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.959 We can't go into the playoffs, even against those great 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.759 quarterbacks that we're gonna face, and allow them to have 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.799 those you know, time melting yard melting slow, methodical drives 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.799 and get scores at the end of them, regardless if 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:13.760 we don't get any any takeaways. Nine of seventy eight yards, 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.520 fifteen of ninety one, ten of forty eight of seventy five, 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.279 nine to forty nine. I mean, those are all the 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.000 drives that Arizona had in the game on a chivity days. 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:26.799 So it's gonna, yeah, it's gonna hurt you, Rob Yeah, 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.640 I mean you hope. So because you can't you can't 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.320 guarantee that you're gonna get takeaways every single game, and 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.759 there is an element, there is an element of luck 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:36.920 in getting takeaways, and some of it has to do 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.600 when when your offense is clicking because you're forcing the 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:43.280 other team to kind of play in press and sometimes 0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.400 that can lead to those things. So I think it 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.200 depends on what your offense can do too. Can you 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.960 can the offense get back to scoring more points and 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:56.520 manufacturing things and creating more opportunities for the defense? I 0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:00.160 think I think the defense in a way to me, 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.440 that was a winnable game based on the way the 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.040 defense played Sunday. And I know they gave up some 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:09.160 big plays, but twenty five points playing at home allowed. 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.359 I think that's enough for your offense to go win 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.319 the football game. You should be able to win. You're right, 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.239 I think that loss was I think that loss was 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.680 more on your offense didn't get started fast enough and 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.439 you missed a big field goal, you know, and obviously, yeah, 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:22.960 there are some calls that didn't go your way too, 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.280 but but I think it was more about not playing 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.040 well enough early enough. I have a quick question. There's 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:29.719 something we haven't addressed, and we may not have a 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.680 time to address it right now in this particular show. 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.560 But I saw something come across the screen the other 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.320 day and had it was in regards to Trayvon Dix. 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:41.000 And yes, he's leading the league obviously interceptions. However, he's 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.600 also leading the leagues in the league in most yards 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.040 allowed in his direction. What are you, guys thoughts on that? 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.719 You do? You? Are you happy with that trade off? Yes, 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.080 especially when it's eleven interceptions. A lot of people were. 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.600 I saw one that said he was the Jamis Winston 0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:00.080 of corners Jesus, and it's like, come on now, a 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.760 lot stop it. I think this is a dumb argument. Honestly, 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.840 what do you think? Well, I think the argument is 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.120 all based off of guys that played the position before, 0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.640 and that's what they're talking about. And it's this comparison business. 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.359 And at the beginning of the year, everybody's comparing them 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.359 to Dion and guy you know, Revo Island, and these 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.439 are guys that probably didn't give up a thousand yards 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:23.040 in multiple seasons to wide receivers. I think the NFL 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.920 has changed. I think it's so much about what cornerbacks 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:27.720 can do with the line of scrimmage that they cannot 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.960 do anymore. I mean, Dion used to be able to 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:31.600 bear hug you at the line of scrimmage, and now 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.359 he can't do that, you know. Uh, it's it's it's 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.960 for what he is and for the skill set that 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.799 he has, I think he maximizes it. There have been 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.279 other shows that have talked about him being susceptible to 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.680 the double move, right, and we've seen it over the 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.000 last couple of weeks that the double move is something 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.040 that will kill him. He will get caught on it, 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.200 but then he'll come right back and take one to 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:55.200 the house. So the ebb and flows, the give and 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.360 takes right now, the eleven interceptions, I don't take it 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.399 I'll take it. I'll take it, Robert, do you think 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.359 totally agree? I mean, I don't know, Isaiah, if you've 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:08.440 seen all year long the PF has ranked him. I 0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:11.920 think at one point recently he was ninetieth among quarterbacks 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.800 in the NFL. And I think PFF has some good stuff. 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.280 But like they've got to change their grading system based 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:22.200 off that eleven interceptions. You are you are, You are 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.840 impacting the game in a major way for your defense, 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.919 and I you know, there's got to be some kind 0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.040 of let's meet in the middle here in terms of yes, 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.840 he gives up big plays, he gambles, he'll freelance, and 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.880 sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. But if you 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.720 are in the firmly in the conversation for defensive player 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.520 of the year, then you're better than the ninetieth player 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.000 at your positions. Right now, he has currently ranked as 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.400 eightieth out of the cornerbacks in the NFL. He is 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:54.040 the third best or third highest rated corner the cowboy 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:58.759 away throw it all out the windows take on that. 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.480 I figured you guys have stronger I mean no, I agree, 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.279 I mean yeah, you change the game when you when 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.160 you when you negate the ability for somebody to throw 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.040 it in your direction. However, that you know people are 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:11.960 getting yards on him, and that's something that you don't 0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.840 want to continue aloud if he's unable to continue with 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.200 the turnovers, because that just means that you're going to 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.799 continue to pick on him in that regard. But there's 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.560 always a chance of him making a big play, and 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.719 I think that that possibility is a game changer for 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.640 your defense. You played against the real Reevis and guys 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:33.160 like that. I mean, what is as a comparison between 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.280 the two, what would you say would be the difference 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:40.040 between the digs and revs. Revs were more way more 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:43.320 physical than Dick's way more physical, and he was a 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:48.560 strong human being. But I feel like people really were 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:50.399 like scared to go at Revis. I don't think people 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.400 are scared to go at Dicks, Okay, And what's the hesitation? 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.879 Why why do teams like you saw watching football team 0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:01.000 they came right out against. I think it was dumb. 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.480 It wasn't dumb, especially from Washington. But I think that 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.640 with Revis, I think, obviously I think Reves was a 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.440 better cover corner, just pure cover corner, not the ability, 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.480 not the necessarily to make a big interception. I don't 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.520 think that was the fear for people against Revis. It 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.080 was like Revas actually just shut you down. I don't 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:20.920 think Diggs is there yet. I think Diggs has a 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.440 capability making a big play, but the fact that he's 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.400 allowing the most yards his direction, he hasn't he hasn't 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.680 shared up that aspect of his game yet, but he will. 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:33.240 And well also not to mention he's a second year player, Yeah, absolutely, 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.120 I mean he is on the early, early early parts 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.800 of his career and he's even new to the position. 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.480 Remember he only switched to play corner halfway through his 0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.719 career at Alabama, so he's what four years now, this 0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.600 is his fourth full year of playing the position period. 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.480 I think you're all right. I think he's got plenty 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.640 of for him to grow and he's an impact player. 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:57.719 If teams aren't scared to throw his direction by now, 0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.440 keep going, yeah, I mean, keep going at him and 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.719 then we'll see who's scared to throw his direction come 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.319 twenty twenty two, so we'll see how that works out 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.680 in the Cowboys. Of course, we'll talk about the Cowboys 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:14.600 offense against Philadelphia defense coming up tomorrow as We do 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:18.680 get closer and closer to the Saturday matchup the Eagles 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.960 in the final week of the regular season, but that's 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.479 it for us. 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