1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm more involved Abom 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: and Diamond aries. And today we embark upon our second 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: part of our two part Bad Diet episode. It's been 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: an epic endeavor. Yes, yes, so we must first start 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: with what is it? Except we mustn't because we did 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: that already. Oh yeah, we did that already. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, diet is generally everything that we eat. Uh. 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Dieting is what we do when we want to lose 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: weight or have some other health health benefit of some kind, 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: and fad diets are kind of silly. Generally, it's very 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: popular things that may or may not work at all, yes, 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: and very largely in the may not at least for 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: long lasting results. Absolutely, which brings us to oh yes, 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the first one of our more modern era of diets, 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: because in the last episode we focused on the older, 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: more historical dieting. Yeah, but by the end of it, 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: people had figured out what calories are, yes, so of 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: course kind of mixed that whole thing with this first one, uh, 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the nineteen cigarette diet cigarette diet. Yeah yeah, this one 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: was primarily targeted to women who at the time, we're 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: trying to achieve that flapper look both in form and 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: in coolness. Um, cigarettes were seen as a sort of 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: fashion accessory thanks to some rather successful marketing from a 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: rather unsavory dude. Both stuff Mom never told you and 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: stuff they Don't want you to know have episodes on 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: this fellow. I think it's Edward Burnet's Oh Bernet's cool goodness? Yeah, 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh he's He's great and terrible and terrible. Okay, sure, 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: go ahead, like like like the like the mighty as Indeed, yes, um, 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: some things I read claimed doctors even prescribed cigarettes to 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: women looking to lose weight. Lucky's brand of cigarettes were 31 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: one of the worst offenders, with ads like reach for 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: our Lucky instead of a sweet or lie to Lucky 33 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: and you'll never missed sweets that make your fat. That 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: was the diet. Yeah. He also tied cigarettes smoking to 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: like greater freedoms for women during Yeah that's right, Yeah 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: he did. Oh man, I forgot about that. Yeah. And 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: if you think of things like, um, Virginia slims, My 38 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: aunt smoked, Virginia Slims still lose weight to stay stay slim. 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: Smoking is bad, kids, don't yeah, end of story. Yep, 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: there gave us the innywate diet also, which allowed for 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: all the caribou well blubber and raw fish you could 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: fit in your stomach. It is true that traditionally, you 43 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: know what, people eight of their calories from meat, meat 44 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and fat. Mhmm. But I think that trying to follow 45 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: a diet like that, if you're not literally and in 46 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: a huntering gatherer living in that environment, it's foolish at best, 47 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: and probably a little bit racist. Yeah. Quite a few 48 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: fad diets occurred in the nineteen thirties. One of the 49 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: most famous was the grapefruit diet, which was resurrected as 50 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Diet in the nineteen fifties. It required eating 51 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: a grapefruit before each meal, and its popularity was such 52 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: that to this day a half to grapefruit is the 53 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: symbol of dieting. That is what you do if you're 54 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: on a diet. If you're on a diet, you better 55 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: be eaten some grapefruit or else what are you doing. 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: William Hay started the Hay diet around this time. He 57 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: was a doctor in the US, and he proposed that 58 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: every food fell into one of three categories. Protein, starch 59 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: are neutral, neutral, Yeah, neutral, So lose weight, you should 60 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: avoid having a protein and a starch in the same meal. 61 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: Henry Ford. Uh huh that Henry Ford followed this diet. 62 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Ford was also part of a raw food movement in 63 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the nineteen twenties. It's just a real interesting guy. If 64 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: you're interested in learning more about him. Our compatriot podcast 65 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Stuff He Missed in History Class and Car Stuff both 66 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: have really great episodes surrounding him and his weird, weird life, 67 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: very strange. We're giving you a lot of extra listening homework. Yes, 68 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: so I hope you're hope you're keeping it up all 69 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: written down. The United Fruit Company pushed the banana and 70 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: skim milk diet um around the same time too, And 71 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that's pretty obvious what it was. 72 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: I didn't find much more about it. That was just 73 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: I feel like they probably just wanted to. I don't know, 74 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: but I would get strong suspicion. During the thirties, you 75 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: could buy soaps promising to scrub your fat away like 76 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: fat oh no and fat off quote reduces fat without dieting. 77 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Are gymnastics. I love that gymnat. It was everybody just, yeah, 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I've got to lose weight. It's time to do some 79 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: some cards eels. I don't know. Another purported that by 80 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: using it you could wash away pounds of fat, double chins, 81 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: and years of age. You still you still can't. You 82 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: still can't. As we said in our first episode, you 83 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: cannot use products on your skin. You can't wash fat away. 84 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: You can't. That's not what's up. No. I also would 85 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: be suspicious generally, and a lot of weight loss products 86 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: through this, of like, not only do you lose weight, 87 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: but you lose your years of age, wrinkles and solves 88 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: all of your problems, and you can do it without 89 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: exercising it all. Yes, isn't it great? I can't believe 90 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: no one's heard of this. Yeah, there's a reason. In 91 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: one we see one of the first cleanses. Yeah, thanks 92 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: to Stanley Burrows. It's so called Master cleans also called 93 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: the Lemonade diet, involved drinking a combination of a lemon 94 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: or lime juice, cayenne maple syrup, and water six times 95 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: a day for ten days. This was supposed to read 96 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: you of all of your cravings for drunk food, tobacco, 97 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: and with alcoho hall. I had no idea this was 98 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: from thet I know because I have friends that did this, 99 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and like college, it's very recent as well. Beyonce in 100 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: fact brought this one back in two thousand and six 101 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: when she mentioned she lost twenty pounds doing it, if 102 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, She later said she regretted it. Um 103 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: dr Oz pushed his own version, complete with laxatives. That guy, 104 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: That guy. If you want to know more about this one, 105 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: you can check out our Juice Cleans episode even more 106 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: homework for you. Yes, celebrities made the cabbage soup diet 107 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: popular the nineteen fifties, and this one is still practiced 108 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: by some folks, apparently re emerging every ten to fifteen 109 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: years as trends tend to do. Yeah, for seven days, 110 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: your diet consists entirely of you guessed it, cabbage soup, 111 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: cabbage water onion soup mix, and maybe some other vegetables, 112 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: maybe some beef as much as she would like. Some 113 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: versions allow small quantities of non soup patched to les, 114 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: fruit and meat as well. Side affects me include excessive 115 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: flagelence that came up and almost everything I read about 116 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: it so I had to include it. It also sometimes 117 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: goes by the Dolly parton diet any diet. This restrictive 118 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: falls into the kind of fasting category which heavy sigh, 119 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: heavy sigh, which we also talked about in our Juice 120 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Cleans episode, but sort of. The short version is that 121 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: fasting isn't going to do you a whole lot of 122 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: good more than that later. Yeah. In the nineteen sixties 123 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: we see another alcohol based diet, the Drinking Man's Diet. 124 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: It restricted you to manly food like steak, but you 125 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: could drink as much gin and vodka as you'd like, 126 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: and at least one drink at least was required at 127 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: every meal. Required required. It um to me, this sounds 128 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: like an excuse to get drunk and eat meat. Uh yeah. 129 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Robert Cameron was the mass to your mind behind this one. 130 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: In his nineteen sixties for sure about it. Pricet one 131 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Dollar sold over two million copies in two years. And 132 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: I can imagine telling the sgnificant others. But the pamplet 133 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: says I have to have a drink with my steak 134 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: at every meal. We couch straight from the pamphlet. Yes, 135 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: get me my breakfast steak and my breakfast martini. It 136 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: is the only way of our weight laws. In the 137 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: nine sixties we also saw the Zen Macrobiotic diet, a 138 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: diet heavily focused on grains that was espoused by Japanese 139 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: philosopher and in nine six one wait Watchers took off. 140 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: And we have to mention the sleeping beauty diet. Do 141 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: we before supper you take a sleeping pill and pass 142 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: out before you had a chance to eat. Elvis was 143 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: allegedly a famous practitioner of this one. UM smart listener friend, 144 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: I do not have to tell you to not take 145 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: sleeping pills for dietary purposes. You know that, Yeah, I 146 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: know that. It's like terrifying. Don't do that. Don't um. Macrobiotic, 147 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: by the way, is meant to evoke the concept of 148 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: a big view of life, macro biotic life view. UM. 149 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: At its core, it's it's a nice idea of of 150 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: like eating food mostly plants, not too much inspired by 151 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: Zen Buddhism, And it's not meant to be a fat 152 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: or curative or weight loss thing, but it has been 153 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: used for those things and I will have more to 154 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: say about it later on. Uh. Weight Watchers is a 155 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: whole other thing. UM. It was modeled on alcoholics anonymous 156 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: and at least originally involved a big group therapy vibe Modernly, 157 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different and can be just fine. 158 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's sort of expensive, but the current model 159 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: teaches like just totally decent dietary and lifestyle habits. Yeah. 160 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't disapprove of that one. I have some friends 161 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: that do this one off and on and they really 162 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: enjoy it. So yeah. Um. Also in the sixties, remember 163 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: how we mentioned that whole Healkers of the sixties has 164 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: come up in several episodes. Dr Hermann Toller came up 165 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: with the Calories Don't Count diet, confusingly, at least for 166 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: us in Atlanta, shortened to the CDC diet um. In it, 167 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: he claimed that there was no need to count calories 168 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: as long as you cut carbs and sugar. Instead, you 169 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: should be eating females a day, heavy on the meat 170 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: and for dessert a staff flower oil pill. The f 171 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: d A stepped in on this one, deming it unsafe. Huh. 172 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I just find that interesting because compared to the other ones, right, like, 173 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: like why that one in particular, I wonder if thick 174 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: sugar had something to do with it, big sugar sugar, 175 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Uh. And this brings us to 176 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: a heavy hitter in the world of fad diets. But 177 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: first it brings us to a quick break for a 178 00:10:53,880 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 179 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: thank you. So who is this heavy hitter? Why it's 180 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: the Atkins diet. Atkins diet, I should say you got 181 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: it start in nineteen seventy two. It had existed before then, 182 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: but the man behind it, Robert Atkins, didn't publish The 183 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Atkins Diet Revolution until that year. It's sold tens 184 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: of millions of copies and it's still a thing. And 185 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and two he published New Diet Revolution, which 186 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: brought it back into the zeitgeist. As soon as it 187 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: was in the zeit geist. He passed away in two 188 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: thousand three, and there's rumors that it was from a 189 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: heart attack, which would be kind of ironic given his 190 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: whole fats and proteins are great for you. Outlook on 191 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: outlook on nutrition. But his officially listed cause of death 192 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: is head trauma from a fall. Whether or not a 193 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: heart attack caused the fall is still a matter of speculation. Yeah, 194 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: in nineteen s we get one that sounds amazing, The 195 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: Cookie Diet. I am so already on that diet. Me too. 196 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: I am notorious for ordering late night cookies. There's a 197 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: place in Alanta that does seven hot cookie delivery. Anyway, 198 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: the cookies in this case had to be particular ones 199 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: made by a South Flordian doctor. Yeah, I know, named 200 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: Sanford Seagull. What made these cookies special? Mm hmm, Well, 201 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: according to him, they were made with a quote secret 202 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: amino acid protein blend he mixed with his own hands. Okay, 203 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: six of these suckers a day and a three calorie 204 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: dinner and you were on your way to your weight 205 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: loss goals. The cookie diet led to the gration of 206 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: several weight loss clinics in the US. Apparently this is 207 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: still a thing. Two seven. You could purchase these cookies 208 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: via website. Okay, so meal replacement category of dieting. But 209 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: meal replacement products can be part of a balanced diet. 210 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: But to keep from getting bored and unhappy, I think 211 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: that you'd probably want to stick to maybe just one 212 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: meal replaced per day. I feel like I would be 213 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: super unhappy doing two yea a day of just protein bars. Essentially, Yeah, 214 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't sound fun. A year later, the Last Chance 215 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: diet came into Vogue in nineteen. For this one, you 216 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: drank a couple of these extremely low calorie drinks that 217 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: were made up of predigested animal brye products like high 218 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: tintons and horns what some people called it a meat smoothie, 219 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: and amazingly, I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time 220 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: we've mentioned meet smoothies on this podcast. A year later 221 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: after that, CS I Love It published Help Lord. The 222 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: Devil Wants Me Fat exclamation point. He wrote that just 223 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: as in the case of Eve accepting an evil apple 224 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: from an evil snake, fame, the devil was tormenting you 225 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: with coach eat ideas, eat ideas. Okay, h but if 226 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: you prayed hard enough and exercise while visualizing the skinny 227 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: body you wanted, you could rid yourself of those devil 228 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: and new thoughts of a chocolate cake. Ten day water 229 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: fast was also part of it. And while your family 230 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: was enjoying their dinner, you should be reading the Bible. 231 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: The illustrations are almost entirely of overweight women in this 232 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,119 Speaker 1: book that you're meant to laugh at and or find horrifying. 233 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I haven't heard of this guy, but I'm not a 234 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: fan of him. No, no, me either. Uh, don't fast 235 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: for longer than a day or two for nutritional purposes. 236 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: Your your body, your body needs food. Yeah, it's kind 237 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: of the whole fuel thing. Also in the nineteen seventies, 238 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: slim Fast meal replacement drinks hit the scene. The creator 239 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: one S. Daniel Abraham, had previously introduced dex Trim diet pills, 240 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: which you might have heard of, and a gum to 241 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: control hunger called slim Mint slim Mint. He wound up 242 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: selling the brand slim Fast that is not slim Mint 243 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: for two point three billion dollar dollars in the year 244 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: two thousand. Wow, some Fast was regular at my house 245 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: in high school. I can't I mean, I don't know 246 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: why it was there, but I feel like every household 247 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I went into had it just magically appeared. It was 248 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: just there, that was all right. The Beverly Hill Diet 249 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: took the limelight in this one, created by Judy Mazel, 250 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: who became known as the Diet Guru, was also fairly restrictive. 251 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: The order of operations of eating food was an important 252 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: part of this one. She blames misinformed eating order for 253 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: confusing your digestive enzymes. What's going on? Fruit needed to 254 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: be eaten alone, and it was all you could eat 255 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: for the first ten days. Fruit and especially pineapple, which 256 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: she believed had fat burning properties. I still see things 257 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: claiming that to this day. Then slowly and separately you 258 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: could start adding carbs and protein. Her book went on 259 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: to sell more than a million copies. This diet mostly 260 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: helps you lose initial weight through diarrhea, okay, and then 261 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: through skin and muscle protein breakdown. That doesn't sound good, 262 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: it's not. Um. Also, all that sugar is not good 263 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: for you, even if it's all from fruit. Um. Furthermore, 264 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: you're digestive. Enzymes can indeed work in tandem. They can. 265 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I I guess the only time that they 266 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't is if you're not eating a diet that's balanced 267 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: enough with different nutrients from different foods for your cells 268 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: to produce all of those enzymes. The Military diet, also 269 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: known as the Three Day Diet, the ice cream Diet, 270 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: the Birmingham Hospital Diet, the Cleveland Hospital Diet, and the 271 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: myo Clinic diet originated sometimes during the eighties. If the 272 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: number of names didn't put up a red flag, then 273 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: this should. It has no known affiliation with any of 274 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: those organizations. Most spokespeople have come out when asked about 275 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: it and said, never heard of it. You do get 276 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: to eat ice cream on it, so that's accurate. And 277 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: it is for three days, so that is also accurate. 278 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: But you're supposed to stick to a calorie limit for 279 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the week and then cycle back to 280 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: the three days. It promises ten pounds of weight loss 281 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: in seven days, but it's also pretty low and nutrients. 282 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: It involves, like, if you haven't heard of it, hot 283 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: dogs and grapefruit um and ice cream. I feel like 284 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: my brother did this when he joined the Navy, though 285 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was legit. But he must have looked 286 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: up military diet and found this, and I just assumed 287 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: that it was legit. Yeah, but I'll have to ask 288 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: him about it. Yeah, probably not legit, though I would 289 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: be great. That would be great to have, like a 290 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: like a tan Gentle listener mail. Yes, yes, it would 291 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: be a non listen listener listener mail. A non listener 292 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: listener mail. The precursor to the Paleo diet, the Caveman Diet, 293 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: popped up in Fit for Your Life, also came into 294 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: existence this year, which similarly um to a lot of 295 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: Theeves said, you shouldn't be eating complex carbs and protein 296 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: during the same meal. That's so interesting to me that 297 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: how many things were like in the same meal. You 298 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: can't have these things separate, those don't not together. Don't 299 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: mix things up in a mix up your digestive enzymes. Also, 300 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: Jenny Craig, yes she was a real lady, is a 301 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: real lady, I think, brought her franchise to the United 302 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: States after huge success selling prepackaged meals and nutritional consultations 303 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: in Australia. Nestlee bought that company in two thousand six 304 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: or six hundred million dollars. That's interesting. Is you a 305 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: bunch of like chocolate and and then Harry, here's the diet. 306 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: It is a wide company with many interests. Wow, you'd 307 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: be a very good spokesperson, learned, got like some goose bumps. 308 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: This brings us to the blood type diet. In Peter 309 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Adamo published eat right for your type and according to this, okay, 310 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: say your blood type. Hey, you need to be subsisting 311 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: on a mostly vegetarian diet. If you're oh, you need 312 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: to focus more on protein less on carbs. If you 313 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: stick to it, Datamo claimed it would lead you back 314 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: to the essential truth that live in every cell of 315 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: your body and link you to your historical evolutionary ancestry. 316 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: This one keeps popping up in my Pinch's feed, so 317 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: it must still be a thing. Also, my pinches feed 318 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: is weird. It's telling me I need to worry about 319 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: arm pit fat and orange pill thighs. And I don't 320 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: know why. I don't know how this happened to me. 321 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: I'm pit fat. Okay, all right, that's that's that's a 322 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: whole other I'm putting that. I'm physically moving that conversational 323 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: thread over here, and I'm just gonna let it go. 324 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: It's probably for the best, beautiful uh. But back to 325 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: the blood type diet. Okay, So, like I mean, every body, everybody, 326 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: everybody is different. But your blood type is an immune 327 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: system related thing that indicates what kind of blood related 328 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: things can be put into your body without your body 329 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: rejecting them and making you sicker than you already are. 330 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: You know, to need some someone else's blood put into 331 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: your far, like an organ or plasma and you know, 332 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: bone marrow stuff like that. Um, your blood type has, 333 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: to the full knowledge of science, zero to do with 334 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: what sort of nutrients your body needs. This is one 335 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: of those things that sounds kind of sexy in in 336 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: its simplicity, but it is at its core ridiculous. Take 337 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: that punter speed. Also, I think people love the kind 338 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: of things where it's almost horoscopy. And I was thinking 339 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: about that because the because Japanese culture and some some 340 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: parts of Taiwanese and I believe South Korean culture tie 341 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: your blood type to an almost horoscope type of personality 342 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: trait things. So so so I get it. But it's 343 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: not a thing. No, no, not a thing. So called 344 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: diet counselor to the Stars. Jamie Cabler debut the Hollywood 345 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: forty Our Diet the same year. All kay, so it 346 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: was It's an orange drink you mixed with water and 347 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: slowly sip, slowly sip over the next four hours, um, 348 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: four times a day for two days. Nothing else is about. 349 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: Nothing else, even things with zero calories smoking either. This 350 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: came out to be four calories a day. Yeah. A 351 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: twenty four hour diet version came out a bit later, 352 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: and on the site there is a thirty day Miracle 353 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: program that of course requires you to purchase a bunch 354 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: of their stuff. Yeah, um on the fat not fat side. 355 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: The nineties was also when we started to see the 356 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: rise of vegetarianism, which I thought of that joke from 357 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Traffic Park Career making fun of legs because she's a vegetarian. 358 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: Um and the Mediterranean diet in Barrious Hears published inter 359 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: The Zone. That was the first of the thirty ratio 360 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: of carbs, fat and protein and the Sugarbusters diet also 361 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: that year. Yeah, a lot of these are are veering 362 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: more into the ideas of lifestyle riots. They're certainly fads 363 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: that have been undertaken by people just to lose weight 364 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: in a short period of time, but they can also 365 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: help you maintain a good balance of nutrients long term. Yeah. 366 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: Fun story about the Zone. It only became popular after 367 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: the book's author hired a Hollywood pr team. Ah ha, 368 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: you mis pronounced at Lauren. It's yeah, there you go. Sorry. Oh. 369 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Also a quick note if you go vegetarian or vegan, 370 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: especially if you're doing it in the short term to 371 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: lose weight, educate yourself to make sure you're not depriving 372 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: your body of important nutrients. Please, please, and thank you. 373 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: Don't just eat like pasta and spinach all the time. 374 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: That's not Yeah, it's not ideal. Yeah, we're both shaking 375 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: our head wordlessly. She cannot see, so not very helpful 376 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: for radio. It is a lot. A lot of diets 377 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: emerged in the two thousand's. There's the Ducan diet from 378 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: a French physician that had been He had been using 379 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: his four stages of weight loss diet to treat obese 380 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: patients since the seventies, but it wasn't until he published 381 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: a book about it in two thousand, a book that 382 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: sold over eight million copies that it really took off. 383 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: The final stage allowed you only one day a week 384 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: for protein, and it has to be that has to 385 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: be the way of things for the rest of your life. Oh, 386 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I've actually never heard of this one. Oh you haven't. 387 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh man. There's this series of posts that the founder 388 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: of House to Works, Marshall Brain, made about the Ducan 389 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: diet on house to works dot com back in the back, 390 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: in the blog post, in the vlog posts. Yeah, and 391 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: they are still the most popular what blog posts on 392 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: our website? Oh man? Okay um. Also from Japan in 393 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: the two thousand's, the Morning Banana diet. What could this mean? 394 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I wonder this one was so popular that sales of 395 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: bananas increased up to from two thousand seven to two 396 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: The The idea here is is possibly obviously, that you 397 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: eat as many bananas as you want for breakfast, and 398 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: then whatever you want bananas or not for for lunch 399 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: and dinner, and that you only drink room temperature water only. 400 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: It also recommends eating dinner before eight pm and going 401 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: to bed by midnight. Mhmm, well hm, that's interesting. But 402 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: ads are very divisive in the weight loss world. I feel, yeah, 403 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: because they're so sugary. But I mean, I mean adds 404 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: all the time one food to avoid on a diet 405 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: and shows a picture of a banana. I never clicked through, 406 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: so oh I don't yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, you 407 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to catch if you get there. 408 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, I don't click there. That's one another 409 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: thing they can recommend. But I mean, but I don't 410 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Bananas are nice. I mean, it 411 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the best weight loss plan in general, 412 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: but sure, sure, yeah, here's a terrifying one in my 413 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: my opinion. It came about in the tooth Essence as well, 414 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: the cotton ball diet. Mm. Hmmm. I thought this was 415 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: a joke at first, um or perhaps a reference to 416 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: one of my favorite books, Catch twenty two. Uh, but yeah, 417 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: people were just eating something that is enough food because 418 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: as no calories and takes up space and is overall unpleasant, 419 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: discourages you to eat anymore because because you're grossed out. 420 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: That was the diet. Don't eat things that aren't food. Yes, 421 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: that's that's my official Lauren's official stance. So any things 422 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: that are not food. Well, this was also the decade 423 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: that's all the rise of our old enemy, juice cleanses 424 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: and yeah again, we have a whole episode on that 425 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: if you would like to learn more. The pretty self 426 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: explanatory raw foods diet and then maybe not quite so 427 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: self explanatory paleo diet gained footing during this time too. 428 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: We'll have to come back to paleo. But at the 429 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: root of it, you're trying to eat like our caveman ancestors, 430 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: as in um, you know, we evolved to eat two 431 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: points six million years ago, so we should still be 432 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: eating like that. That is nothing that can't be hunted 433 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: or gathered, which cuts out I guess, like anything that's 434 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: been cultivated which is technically most things. But this diet 435 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: focuses on avoiding grains, dairy, legumes, and added sugar and salt. 436 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: It is, by the way, untrue that we stopped evolving 437 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: our food digestive abilities since then. Take for example, lactose tolerance. 438 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: Peoples who took up hurting cattle over the past ten 439 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: thousand years or so have largely evolved the ability to 440 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: continue making the enzyme lactase and thus digesting milk after childhood. 441 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: People's who have not been dependent on cattle have not. 442 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: And that's just in the past ten thousand years. There's 443 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: evidence that humans started eating wild grains a hundred thousand 444 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: years ago, so I've had plenty of time to evolve 445 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: stuff to deal with grains. Um. Yeah, but yeah, this 446 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: this falls into that low carb, high fat or protein 447 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: category of diet that, yes, we will have to come 448 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: back to in another episode. Yeah. Let us also not 449 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: forget the subway sandwich diet. I don't really have anything 450 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: to say about it. I just wanted to mention that 451 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: it happened. Yeah, I knew someone who did that as well. 452 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: And let us also not forget to mention the macrobiotic 453 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: diet are perhaps you know it as the Gwyneth Paltrow diet. 454 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: Um it called for you to forget forever dairy meat 455 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: and the frightening category of other foods. Oh ah, yeah, 456 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: and this is a version of that Zen macrobiotic diet 457 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: that popped up in the sixties. And okay, so the 458 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: concept here is to eat organic, local, unprocessed unless it's 459 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: dried or pickled, whole grains, fruits, vegetables, lagoons, and maybe 460 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: occasionally nuts and seafood. And there are all kinds of 461 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: recommendations for types of foods and how to cook them 462 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: based on these Zen Buddhist principles of yin and yang um. 463 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: No ice in your water, no aromatic tea because it 464 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: might be too aromatic, I'm not sure. Part part of 465 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: it is also preparing your food mindfully in cookwear made 466 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: of traditional materials like no plastics or aluminum, with fire 467 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: instead of electricity, and in a peaceful environment. And to 468 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: chew your food a lot, like maybe fifty times before 469 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: swallowing again with the chewing, yeah, you know, the chewing 470 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: is important. Chew your food. Dope not. We were not advocating. 471 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm subdenly afraid of everything that I say, uh, No, 472 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: the whole macrobiotic diet thing can be fine if you 473 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: really are mindful about getting an appropriate balance of nutrients, 474 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: so many restrictions can make it difficult, especially for someone 475 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: who's going through treatment for a serious disease like cancer, 476 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: which the macrobiotic diet is sometimes touted to help cure, 477 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: which kind of makes me angry. Yeah. Uh. Furthermore, like, honestly, y'all, 478 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: it's it's hard for me to see this one as 479 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: anything except a bunch of rich white Westerners appropriating select 480 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: concepts of Zen Buddhism and then bragging about how healthy 481 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: it makes them on the Internet via their expensive electronic devices. 482 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. This is the one that I have a 483 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: strong opinion about, could you tell? Could you tell? Well, 484 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: let's move on to South Beach. South Beach, which came 485 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: to be in two thousand three telling you to get 486 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: rid of the quote white stuff like potatoes, sugar, and flour, 487 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: so carbs essentially again, Yeah, this one is a lot 488 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: more lax than many of the other low carb diets. 489 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Although it's first phase is a hard go at eliminating cravings, 490 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: it generally espouses and everything in moderation kind of approach. 491 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: The cardiologist who wrote the book, One Arthur Agatston, sold 492 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: seven point four million copies of the book and made 493 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars the first couple of years. WHOA. The 494 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: brand still exists, I know, and I feel like I 495 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: could say this after almost every modern diet we've talked about. 496 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: But I have friends who did this one, and I've 497 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: never heard of this one. But here's another one out 498 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: of Japan. Two separate Japanese inventors proposed two separate different 499 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: vision diets. Vision diets, vision diet. Okay, what is a 500 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: vision diet? I do ask, and I can hear you 501 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: through the magic now I can't. But in the first 502 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: you wore what I'm sure we're very stylish glasses that 503 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: turned everything, including your food, a very unappetizing shade of blue. 504 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Yep okay um. Blue was supposed to depress your appetite. 505 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: I actually saw an article about this recently somewhere, And 506 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: there's color theory that says that red increases your appetite 507 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: and blue decreases it, right, which is why a lot 508 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: of brands use red in their advertising or in their logos. 509 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: The second vision diet involved Virgil Real You don your 510 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: handy dandy virtual reality glasses, and these things could recognize 511 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: food items and make them appear larger so that you 512 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: eat less of them. I failed to see how that 513 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: would work because regardless of what it looks like, still 514 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: the same size and you have to pick it and 515 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: it's still right, all right. I don't know. I'd love 516 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: to see a demonstration, or I'd love to try them out, 517 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: just just for scientific I'm curious. I have many, many doubts, 518 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: but I am curious. And actually there are a bunch 519 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: of scary ones, like really genuinely upsetting ones that came out, Yeah, 520 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: in the past decade or so. Yeah, the two thousand 521 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: eleven h c G diet recommended injections of h c G, 522 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: or a hormone found in the urine of pregnant women 523 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: gave us the fasting diet are the five to diet. 524 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: The two refers to the two days of fasting. Man 525 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: future brides to be may have been pushed to do 526 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: the k E feeding tube diet ten days before the wedding. 527 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: It cost am easily and the tube was inserted via nostril. Yes, 528 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: there's a tube that is inserted internastril. And about eight 529 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: hundred non carb calories were sucked up like force fed 530 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: to you a day. Um. And this can be useful 531 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: in other situations aside from weight loss, like coma or 532 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: stroke patients. The fact that that's in the same sentence 533 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: comma stric patients perhaps should give you a concept whether 534 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: or not you should do it for weight loss purposes. Yeah, 535 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: and this is really new and I did find there 536 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: are many scientific reports coming out about it, and some 537 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: people seemed positive. Oh no, but it's one of those 538 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: things where it's so new. Um, and I think there 539 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: are positive more in the sense of someone who has 540 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: a like really serious obesity problem. However, Oh no, I 541 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: mean definitely don't do it for your wedding. I you're 542 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: you're you're beautiful in your spouse loves you, and the 543 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: photographs can be retouched if you're really upset about them. 544 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 1: You're you're going to be fine. Your wedding is going 545 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: to be lovely. Yeah. Oh yeah, Oh man, we're great 546 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: party guests. We are. I don't know if you heard 547 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: the last episode, but I'm definitely gonna say penis, penis 548 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: and a past soon and it could be your wedding. 549 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh and finally, something that I mentioned in our first episode. Also, 550 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: as of sixteen, another new trend hit, the baby food diet. Yeah, 551 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this one, and I'm kind of horrified. Yeah, 552 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: it's there's no like official rules or anything. This is 553 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: one of those kind of meme like ones. It's apparently 554 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: you eat two meals of baby food a day and 555 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: then a sensible dinner. A sensible dinner, so so you know, 556 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: up to seven jars of baby food for breakfast and lunch, 557 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: depending on how hungry you are. These things usually clock 558 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: in at like ninety calories, so so it's a form 559 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: of calorie restriction. I guess you're also eating baby food, 560 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: which does not provide you with the nutrients that an 561 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: adult human person needs, as you might have gleaned from 562 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: the name baby food. Yeah, I mean it's been a 563 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 1: long time since I've been a baby, but I don't 564 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: remember it tasting particularly great. I've got to say that, 565 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: like when I've been feeding friends kids, I've definitely taken 566 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: a taste. I'm like, I'm like, oh, yeah, you can't. 567 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: IM not gonna come on. I didn't take like the 568 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: jar a tiny finger tip. I'm not a monster. I'm 569 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: not depriving my friend's children of calories. Well they're fine, though, 570 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, well I'm glad the babies they do 571 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: generally seem, you know, relatively happy about it. Yeah. They 572 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: haven't spent much time around babies. I don't know, they're babies. 573 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: They're they're relatively happy about many things. It's glory thing 574 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: about babies. It is speaking of glorious things. Is time 575 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: for a quick break, one last quick break, for a 576 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back, Thank you sponsor. 577 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: And we're back with science. I mean, we've had a 578 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: little bit of science sprinkled a little bit, yeah, sprinkled 579 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: through here. Yeah we're a little salt. Yeah. But okay, 580 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: so if you let's let let's round up, Yes, these 581 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: concepts about fad dieting and dieting in general. Perhaps, yeah, 582 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: because a lot of a lot of themes have come 583 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: up several times. So overall, the thing is is that 584 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: if fad diets worked, there wouldn't have to be so 585 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: dang many of them. Yeah. The really simple answer to 586 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: weight loss is calories in, calories out. If you eat 587 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: a death set of calories that you burn throughout your day, 588 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: then you will lose weight. Right. There's even that infamous 589 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: case study of the Twinkie diet that that one nutrition 590 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: professor who put himself through two months of a restricted 591 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: calorie diet composed mostly of junk food who still lost 592 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: weight and improved his ratio of good hdal to bad 593 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: HDL cholesterol. And this happened because at a certain point 594 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: of unhealthiness, any like caloric deprivation is going to work 595 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: in your favor. Well, yeah, are not your favor Yeah, 596 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: we're We're not recommending the Twinkie diet. Don't do that. 597 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: If nothing else, it would just probably make you really 598 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: angry all the time. I'm a little bit angry just 599 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: thinking about it. Fun fact about me is I've never 600 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: had a Twinkie producer, Ramsey, who many of you might know, 601 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: he wants to do like a filming of you twink Yeah, 602 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: that sounds great. However, my thoughts, whatever they may be, 603 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: do not anticipate the Twinkie diet in my future. No. Um, 604 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: It really really is best to lose weight slowly. Yeah, um. 605 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: And and a lot of these diets promise these very 606 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: drastic immediate results, like but one to two pounds per 607 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: week is what is considered safe. When you lose weight 608 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: faster than that, it's really hard to sustain for a 609 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: few reasons. First, you're probably putting your body into starvation 610 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: mode cutosis, which means that it's going to start breaking 611 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: down your cells glycemic stores, which is kind of the point. 612 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: But a byproduct of this is that your cells release 613 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of water. That's what people refer to 614 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: when they say that you're losing water weight. Um So 615 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: when you start eating a sufficient number of calories after 616 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: this binge diet, your cells will replace those stores and 617 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: you will gain that water weight back. Secondly, if you 618 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: restrict calories too heavily, you can push your body into 619 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: breaking down its muscle or even its bone mass, which 620 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: will actually make it harder for you to gain strength 621 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: and thus burn calories and thus lose weight in the 622 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: long run. Also, any diet that tells you to cleanse 623 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: bying a really limited number of specific foods is not 624 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: a great idea. Different foods contain different nutrients that we 625 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: need for our bodies to do the work of getting 626 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: good stuff into ourselves and getting bad stuff out, repairing damage, 627 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: and fighting off invading bacteria and viruses. All those good things. Um. Also, 628 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned it before, but like most humans 629 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: get bored and unhappy, scientifically speaking, there there's research about this. 630 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: When you eat a limited variety of foods came up 631 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: in our Space food episodes. Yeah yeah, and um that 632 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: the only benefit to that is maybe psychologically you'll feel 633 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: like you're self flagellating. Yeah, um, which I'm being Okay, 634 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: so so I'm being flip about that. But let me 635 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: be clear. If you are restricting your diet or fasting 636 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: for genuine religious reasons, I respect that, but let me 637 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: also be clear that heavy restrictions and heavy fasts are 638 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: not going to do you any good nutritionally. No. No. Furthermore, 639 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: anyone who tells you that they've got a miracle to 640 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: sell you is not your friend. They are not to 641 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: be trusted. Spend. If you're going to spend that money, 642 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, spend it on like fresh vegetables and work 643 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: out shorts that don't chafe, and a trip to a 644 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: registered dietitian or another accredited group if that's what you 645 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: want to do. Yeah, this was a different podcast. I'd 646 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: go into a whole thing about shape thing because as 647 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: a runner, this is something I could speak a lot 648 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: about I. I have a lot of friends who have 649 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: very informed and wonderful opinions about how to avoid runners. 650 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: Shave Yes Do podcast under ship Um I we've kind 651 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: of spoken before about. I think the frustrating thing is 652 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: so many people sell these things to you that are unhealthy, 653 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: and we've sold this image to people that this is 654 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: what you must look like. It's just like this vicious, 655 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: sad cycle of people who are desperate to look the 656 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: way that we've told them they should look, and then 657 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: they're spending money on things that are probably bad for 658 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: them and are not going to help them achieve that look. Yeah, 659 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: that that might make it worse in the long run. Yeah, 660 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: and I definitely when I was younger, I've done I've 661 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: tried a bunch of these things. The saddest one I tried, 662 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 1: and I only did this briefly, But you were supposed 663 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: to watch yourself eat in a mirror and then be 664 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: so grossed out by how you looked that you would 665 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: eat less. Oh no, Yeah, it's horrifying. Oh wow, that 666 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: sounds like something that Judy Blum would write about that. Oh, 667 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: that's that's traumatizing just thinking about it. And oh man, 668 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: I almost kind of I sort of wanted to say 669 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: in here that I have like like skinny privilege, Like 670 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: I like, I come from a long line of very 671 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: naturally thin people, so I have not experienced that incredible 672 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: drive to to to have to look away that my 673 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: body isn't But even with that, like I've restricted my 674 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: diet in weird ways too. I almost went vegan once. 675 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: It was terrible, I mean for for for me because 676 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: cheese is my life and I was fixating on body 677 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: shape and being really unhealthy. But genuinely, like, bodies are different. 678 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: There there is so much amazing research, um that's finally 679 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: coming out about how healthy you really can be at 680 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: different body shapes and weights. And it's a lot more. 681 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: Health is a lot more than a number. Yes, and 682 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: genetics plays a factor. There's so many things you can't control, 683 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: and so much of it doesn't have to do with 684 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: just food. Yeah. So hopefully if you were considering that 685 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: we've ruined it for you. Be healthy, like eat food 686 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: and talk to people who know what they're talking about. Um, 687 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: if you're looking to lose weight, just take care of yourself. Yes, 688 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: what we want please do? Please do we like you? 689 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: We like you and we like food and we like 690 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: hearing from you. Thanks us to listener, Okay, Gayle wrote 691 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: in response to our Sutrink episode. One of my first 692 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: memories of being in a music class in school, when 693 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: I was maybe a first or second grade class year, 694 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: learning to sing the song I'd like to buy the 695 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: World to Coke. Also, thank you, Lauren. Thank you also 696 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 1: of being a Texan. I call all fizzy drinks cokes. 697 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: That's just what we refer to them as down here. 698 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: Whether they are actually a coke product or not, I'm 699 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: not really sure why that is. However, my favorite coke 700 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: product is actually one that's kind of infamous. Yes, it 701 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: is at Epcot Center at Disney World in Florida. They 702 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: have a Coca Cola store. I believe it is currently 703 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: called Ice Station Cool with Kay, though I seem to 704 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: remember it being called something else when I was younger, 705 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: where they have a fountain that allows you to sample 706 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: different coke products from around the world. One of these 707 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 1: is the infamous Beverly from Italy. If I remember correctly, 708 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be sort of an a pair of 709 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: tiff and if you look online you can find lots 710 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: of pictures of the wonderfully ikey faces people make as 711 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: they try this bitter drink of the first time. I 712 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: tried it for the first time a few years ago 713 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: when we visited, and honestly, I didn't think it was 714 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: that bad. Maybe I'm just weird that yes you are 715 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: statement I've never No, no, I've never. I've never had 716 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 1: Beverly specifically, but I've had other, like bitter appetite drinks 717 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: from that region of the world, and I think they're fine, 718 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: but but my favorite flavor is better. So, yes, you 719 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: are not weird, Gail. Well, well, I mean you're not 720 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: that yeah no, wait, well yes, we can't speak otherwise. 721 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: But I also I don't I wouldn't drink it, but 722 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. However, for people who don't know, it's, 723 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: Lauren hasn't been through the world of coke yet, but um, 724 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: you can try it there. Yeah, we have to go. 725 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: It's and everyone it's. It does have a reputation. People 726 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,479 Speaker 1: know about it, people want to try. It is extremely bitter, 727 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: and I mean compared to all I think they have 728 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: at least twenty different versions of Coca Cola products you 729 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: can try, and it's the one that you know is 730 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: you'll remember it, don't remember it. It's different than everything 731 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: else there. It just I've heard it just tastes like 732 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: a like like an amorrow. If you've ever had um 733 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: chin or or or other, I'm sure I have tomorrow 734 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: or drink and yeah. On a related note, we also 735 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: call all soda coke around here. And I love when 736 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: a waiter someone says to waiter, I'd like a coke please, 737 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: in the waiters like, oh, dude, would you want dr pepper? 738 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: Like coke is not the answer coke means or even 739 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: or even hearing someone say like, oh, like a Pepsi coke? Yes, Oh, 740 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure Pepsi loves that. And my final note on 741 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: this is, I can't believe we forgot I'd like to 742 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 1: buy the world a coke because it did save Don 743 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: Draper's career. Perhaps on Madman? Is it spoilers? That's been 744 00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: a while? Sure? Okay? Elizabeth wrote about the Turkey Episo 745 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: d My parents lived in the San Francisco Bay Area 746 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: in a place that was both hilly and wooded and 747 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: also quite convenient to public transit and the freeways. In 748 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: other words, not a rural or remote location. One fall 749 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: probably around the Nature Conservancy magazine ran a cover story 750 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: about the elusive wild American turkey. We all stopped in 751 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: our tracks. How could these birds be considered elusive? They 752 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: wander the streets of the town, frequently disrupting traffic in 753 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: blocking exit from driveways. They are present and visible, and 754 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: their flocks continue to grow every year. They are certainly 755 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: not elusive. Dumb, yes, rare or scarce. No, we couldn't 756 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: help chuckling at the thought of these awkward birds being elusive. 757 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: If only this year my mom moved into a retirement 758 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: community in the same area, and we've observed an interesting phenomenon. 759 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: The wild turkeys living in the retirement community seemed to 760 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: be a bit smarter or have learned to respect the 761 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: slower reaction times of elder the drivers. Rather than wandering 762 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: down the middle of the roads, the birds neatly jump 763 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: onto the sidewalks and medians when a car approaches. Their 764 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: flocks also use the well marked sidewalks when crossing the streets. 765 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: It's hilarious. It's hilarious. It is for now. This is 766 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: how they evolve into raptors. And then you know, unless 767 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: they there're an open doors, they're going to learn on 768 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: open doors, from dinosaurs to turkeys, back to dinosaurs. It's 769 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: the circle of life. There's a lot of movie references 770 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: going on right now. Oh that's wonderful. 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