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Speaker 1: On this episode of Newtsworld. When a drug addicted Hunter

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Speaker 1: shop in Delaware in the spring of twenty nineteen, just

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Speaker 1: six days before his father announced his candidacy for the

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Speaker 1: United States presidency, it became a ticking time bomb in

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Speaker 1: the shadow of Joe Biden's campaign. The dirty secrets contained

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Speaker 1: in Hunter's laptop almost derailed his father's presidential campaign and

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Speaker 1: This is the true story of what's really inside the laptop,

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Speaker 1: what China knows about the Bidens. Brought to you by

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Speaker 1: the New York Post journalist who brought it out in

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Speaker 1: the open. Maranda Divine is a reporter columnist and has

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Speaker 1: really dug into the whole Biden corruption system and just

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Speaker 1: produced a book called Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden, Big

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Speaker 1: Tech and the dirty secrets the President tried to hide

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Speaker 1: and it's available now. Miranda. I'm delighted to have you,

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Speaker 1: and you've done amazingly well with hardcover Carpasier Bok sought

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Speaker 1: out an Amazon and Barnes and Noble. Laptop from Hell

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Speaker 1: was number one an Amazon. I'm curious because you've written

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Speaker 1: by many things, and I've had a great relationship going

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Speaker 1: back to your days in Australia. What made you decide

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Speaker 1: to rate Laptop from Hell? Bruti Giuliani basically contacted me

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Speaker 1: and gave me a copy of Laptop from Hell and

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Speaker 1: my colleagues at the New York Post to Emma, Joe

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Speaker 1: Morris and so. On October thirteen last year, three weeks

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Speaker 1: before the election, we published the first of a number

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Speaker 1: And these were stories which showed with the emails or

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Speaker 1: because these emails indicated that, in fact, Joe Biden, when

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Speaker 1: course they were helped in that by really egregious letter

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Speaker 1: letter they admit that they haven't looked at the laptop.

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Speaker 1: This is fascinating, and we really never got to round

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Speaker 1: China sometime. Miranda, I want to thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: Thank you to my guest Miranda Divine. You can get

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