WEBVTT - #327 - Joy Taylor 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:00.520 Hi. 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:02.920 I'm Joy Taylor, a host of Speak on FS one, 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.600 and you can check me out on the Bootleg keV podcast. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.080 Bootleg keV Podcast Special Guests here. 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.120 You might see her on TV every day if you 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.680 watch FS one. Joy Taylor, Welcome. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:17.520 Thank you for having me. 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.159 Of course, you're super dope. Happened. I've never watched you 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:21.120 on TV for so long. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.680 Like I was like, like, I was just talking to 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:25.280 my boy because we're big sports fans, and I told 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:26.160 him you were coming on the show. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.480 He's like, yo, Joy's fire. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.800 Hi you Yeah, you've been a staple on television for 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:33.960 you just said six it's been six years. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.720 I've been at Fox for seven years. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.280 Okay, so I just gets six and a. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.680 Half years because we launched Undisputed about six and a 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.320 half years ago. Okay, six and a half years in September. 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.280 So you were born in Pittsburgh, yes, but do you 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.000 claim Miami? 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.919 So this is how it breaks down. I was born 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:52.920 and raised in Pittsburgh, right, So I lived there until 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.120 I was eighteen. Still have to on a family there, 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.840 like you know, four and two forever obviously, right, But 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.160 I went to school in Miami, So I kind of 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.400 say I was like born and raised in Pittsburgh and 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.200 then like became a woman in Miami, right, and then 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:09.800 obviously now I'm in LA and I've been in LA 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.160 for seven years, so La is like home now too. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:13.960 And then your brother's like a Dolphin's legend. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.800 Yeah, so Jason, Well, I had like gotten introduced to 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.760 Miami obviously through my brothers and like growing up in Pittsburgh, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.679 not just like randomly hopping down to Miami, but yeah, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.880 like that's how I became aware with the the the area, right, 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.440 and what made me want to end up going to 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.119 school down there. So yeah, he played for Miami for 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.000 thirteen years, legend in the NFL for fifteen years, and 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:37.280 first ballot Hall of Famer. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.920 First ballot. You did you end up starting like your broadcast? 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.959 I think I saw you started your broadcast career in 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.160 Miami at a station out there. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.960 Yeah. So I started in radio me too. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.160 I'm still on the radio every day. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.960 Yeah, I love radio. I started in radio in two 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:53.720 thousand and seven. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.320 I started in radio and five. So we're the same age. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.000 I just yeah, I saw you were born in eighty seven. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.840 I've been same age. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:02.559 So yeah eighties babies. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.400 Yeah, so I wanted to start in radio, so you 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.320 will know this. Also, you know, shows and podcasts and 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.840 YouTube shows and digital shows did not exist, of course, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.600 you know. I was in college when we were coming 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.560 up in the business. If you wanted to be a personality, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.640 really radio was the way to go, especially if you 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.840 wanted to talk and with sports. It was just around 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:27.399 that time that the you know, first takes and call 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.600 in show and all you know those PTI we're really 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.480 starting to take off and the direction of the business 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.240 was changing to more opinion shows than it was just 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.160 a traditional sports center recap shows. That's because of phones, 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.239 we were had more access to highlights, so. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.359 We could see all that if we wanted to on 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:47.799 Facebook or Twitter, right, we don't. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.720 We don't have to wait for it for Sports Center, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.760 which you used to have to do. So it shifted 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.080 the business. So I wanted to be able to talk. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.840 I wasn't really interested in being a reporter beat writer, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.760 and radio was a space to get into the give 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.480 you that opportunity. So I started in sports radio at 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.120 five sixty q AM in Miami. That was my first internship. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.840 Wow, interning is in radio for people who don't know, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.320 at least back then. I'm sure it's rough, because did 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.640 you You probably didn't get paid anything. No, because back then 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.080 I got paid nothing. No, you should just be happy 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:17.480 to be here. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.840 Yeah, it was. It was being paid and happy to 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.360 be here. No, I mean I didn't. I did it 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.200 for school credit. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.760 It's obviously, right, that's the cat get Yeah. I actually 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.840 was not going to college, but I had to go 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.400 to college to work at the radio station. So my 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.320 college career only exists because I had to go to 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.440 college to get credit to work at the radio station. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:36.720 Yeah. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.440 I feel like we've evolved past all of that now, Yes, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.120 and the media role has expanded so much that that 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.280 doesn't really exist. But at the time it was just 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:50.280 really traditional media forms writing, you know, newspapers, radio, television. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:51.520 You're setting up tents and stuff. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.720 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you got to do the 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.080 promo stuff, you got to hand out. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:57.960 Yeah. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.200 I go to the promo events, you know, get coffee, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.680 do the rundowns, whatever. But it actually got great experience interning. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.120 Not all internships are great, and it's the world of 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.920 interning has completely changed since we were interurning, obviously, but 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.880 I also got the intern for DJ Laz who was 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.599 on Power ninety six Legeny Legend out DJ LAS. So 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.799 my first internship was with Joe Rose at five sixty 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.000 q AM, and that was a sports morning show. And 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.600 then I was able to get an internship through constantly 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.440 poking my head in bothering. 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.360 Lass and Meta. That was when he was doing mornings 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:32.320 AT's Power ninety six. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.440 Yes, so I got an internship there and worked past 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.839 my school internship and you know, just did the internship 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.440 for free whatever. But I got incredible experience and I 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.240 really learned how to produce shows from working with Laz 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.480 because sports and entertainment crossover so much. Sure, and we 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.880 would obviously talk about the local teams, but obviously we're 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.520 doing a morning show as well, so you got to, 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.760 you know, see what the internet is talking about, you know, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:55.839 what's going on locally. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:56.840 Is there something in town. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.839 We'd always have music guests in, you know, act all kinds. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.840 Of difference, always like rappers want to be athletes and 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:04.160 athletes want to be rappers. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.760 Well, yeah, I mean there's a lot of crossover in 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.479 the culture, especially in Miami. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:09.880 Yeah, I mean really everywhere. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:14.039 It's there's just a lot of crossover with culture and sports, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:18.160 right and it's it's really throughout all of society, though 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.400 it's not even really with just with music. Sports are 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.800 such a big part of our existence, and I think 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:27.080 we really got a whole acknowledgement of that when we 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:28.680 lost sports during the pandemic. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.440 I was I was gambling on South Korean baseball? 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:36.480 Yeah, who wasn't we needed something live on TV. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.800 It really for me, it will always make me appreciate 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.919 just being able to turn a game on during the 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.919 regular season that we might be like, oh, it doesn't 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.840 really matter. Just having that sense of normalcy taken away 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.840 from you was really jarring. So, but sports are just 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:52.960 a big part of our lives. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.480 What was it like for you because you guys were 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:56.679 still doing TV? Right? 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:57.800 Yeah? 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.000 So that I mean because there's like. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.440 Downtimes in the sports calendar where there's I want to say, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.200 there's like a patch that we're about to approach. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.359 We are very close to hers. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.560 And then all you got is baseball, which I'm not 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.160 the hugest baseball fan. I don't know where you are 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.240 on baseball, but I'm not very passionate about baseball. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.800 But it's like the dark times, it's like. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.800 Waiting for NFL, like Okay, what kind of nerdy shit 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.279 is going on in the NFL that we can hear about. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.240 But I can only imagine during the pandemic, there's like 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.159 nothing I would be listening to, like Bill Simmons and shit, 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.680 and they would just be talking about the Michael Jordan 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:32.520 that documentary. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:33.760 Yeah saved us. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.880 So Colin and I joke about it all the time 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.440 because we didn't really take any time off and we 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.560 did our regular show, which is five days a week, 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:44.360 three hours a day. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.880 Every day during the pandemic pandemic with. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:49.880 No live sports. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:55.440 So luckily the timing of the shutdown for our show 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.520 matched up with the ends of the NFL season. So 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.039 THEFL season had gotten in, we got through the Super Bowl, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.240 and it was it was, you know, NFL off season. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.240 So even though the NBA shut down, we still had 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.280 a lot of content going on with NFL off season 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.920 because the NFL just moves forward with the idea that like, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:15.880 we're going to get through this and play the season. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.400 I think in that off season, DeAndre Hopkins got traded 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.280 to my Cardinals for scrapped. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.240 Tom Brady moved by, It was a lot of Aaron 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.080 Rodgers stuff. There was a bunch of Cam Newton News. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.640 So we just kind of I mean, we repeated a 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.600 lot of topics, but we once we got to the 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.120 doc that's really when we were like, we need something 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:37.120 to talk about, right, It's. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:37.160 Like it's live. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.000 We also watched it like that, like everyone was so 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.560 dying for sports content that we really and there were 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.440 some reveals in it, for sure, but for them we 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.800 were watching it like, oh my god, what's going to happen? 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.240 Like the bulls go? When we really watched it like 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:54.720 it was live. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.560 But it was a great experience in that sense, like 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.200 there were some things that really kind of all brought 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.320 us together as sports and that documentary. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.200 I mean, and I'd say this, it gave us content. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:08.520 So yeah, you okay being a part of Skip Bayless 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.960 he leaves ESPN. Obviously, him and stephen A. Smith have 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:16.520 this legendary show for all these years. Somehow the magic 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.080 gets recreated, but in my opinion, much better. I think 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.120 him and Shannon are. I just love them together more 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.520 than I loved the stephen A thing. But you're there 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.960 on day one because that that's a big I remember 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.160 how big of a deal it was that Skip left, 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.439 and it was just like, oh, there's something going on here, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.160 and you're kind of you're there, so like, what was 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.760 it like early early when it comes to just seeing 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.200 those two form their chemistry and just that whole entire 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:47.600 time and sports media. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.319 It was a really incredible experience, especially to be the 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.200 part of, like you said, a big story and launch. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.400 It's always cool to launch a show, but when you're 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.920 launching a show with Hall of Famer and Shannon Sharp 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.240 and Skip Bayless, like the Skip Bayless and everyone's watching 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.920 to see what the chemistry is going to be like 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.120 and how's it going to look, and you know, is 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.000 it gonna work? Are they gonna get ratings? And it 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.960 was It was really a wild thing to be a 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.800 part of. We shot a bunch of commercials, there were 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.520 all these promo shoots, and there's these billboards and you know, 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.200 stories going on, and it was also the first time 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.320 that we had done a show together, so that part 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.240 of it also like behind the scenes, getting into the 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:34.640 beats of a show as as structured as a debate 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.880 show in that format is a whole other challenge to 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.120 do because, as you know, because he did on that show, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.800 and you have to be able to balance what we're 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.960 talking about is just about this and not personal, And 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.600 then you have to move the show along and you're 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.720 kind of like, well, I'm moving everything. So like we 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.520 got to get to commercial break, like when do I 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.760 jump in and cut him off so that he feels 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.520 like he's had everything he had to say. So there's 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.480 a lot of moving parts, but it was it was 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:03.280 an amazing experience. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:04.040 We traveled a lot. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.360 We went to McGregor fight in New York. We were 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.880 at the McGregor Mayweather fight, we were at the US Open, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.960 we were at the NBA Finals in Cleveland, the NBA 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.040 Finals in Oakland, the super Bowl. So it was a 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.800 really incredible, incredible launch and it was a great experience 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.920 working with both of them. And I mean we had 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:19.880 a lot of fun on that show. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.600 Is do you think Skip gets a bad rep sometimes 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.760 because he genuinely, to me, comes off like a nice guy, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.160 like he's I just think that you know, he's so 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:28.480 dug in on some of his. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.760 I mean, he's an opinionist. So I don't ever tell 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.000 people how to how they should feel about anyone. I 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.760 know what my experiences are with them. Skip's always been 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.280 extremely generous with me, a great mentor. He's given me 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:47.599 some great advice over the years. He's gives strong opinions 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.000 and sometimes most of the time people are going to 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.120 disagree with your opinion. That's what the opinion space is. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.320 So I don't really find that it's particularly unique to 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.600 just Skip, because I've worked with Skip, and I've worked 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.559 with Shannon, and I've worked with Colin, and I work 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.400 with other opinionists now and I worked with big personalities 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.600 in Miami. That's what you're doing if you're giving your opinion. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.559 The reality is most people aren't gonna like what you 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.040 have to say. I mean, I deal with it now. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.400 I get my opinion every day. I know people aren't 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.520 going to like what I have to say sometimes, and 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.080 that's fine because that's what my opinion is. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:18.480 Now. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.960 I think my delivery is maybe a little cheek. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.600 Here that skiffs, but you know, that's that's his style, 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.959 and he's he's okay with people disagreeing with him. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.040 Were you there the first time Shannon pulls out a 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:31.680 goat mask on TV? 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.839 I think it was yes, yes, because we actually ended 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.360 up bringing in an actual goat into studio one time, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.080 so it had to have been after the goat mask 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.679 because he was wearing the jersey the first time. I 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.400 see He's worn it so many times I've lost track, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.760 but I think the first time he had a jersey on. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.560 Yeah, and and and then he had the goat masks 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:53.400 and they had a goat mask. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.640 Yes, and then yes and then he. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.880 Because we brought an actual goat into the studio, like 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.679 a real actual goat, so that had to have been 0:11:59.679 --> 0:11:59.959 after it. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.280 I just love like how he'll bring weed on the 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.120 set and he'll be like, skip. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.800 This is I'm just like, this is. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.680 This is amazing, Like like if you would have told 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.680 me like ten years ago that sharp Wood was. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.679 Going to be bringing some some tree on the side. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.520 Some tree and cognac on live TV. 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:16.679 It's just we have a. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.800 Lot of ability to really dig into our personalities over there, 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:21.480 which is fun. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.480 Like you can really you can really be yourself. And 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.439 that's that's what people relate to, is when you are 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:29.920 enjoying yourself. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.640 You know, it's television or you're doing an interview or anything, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.320 you're always going to be up a little bit, you know. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.280 It's not like when you're showing at your house having 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:41.360 a conversation. But people want to enjoy the show. You know, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.000 especially with a show that you're being very combative and 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.720 you're having really serious conversations sometimes and you're having really 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.480 deep arguments and debate, you add a little lightness to 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:52.920 it every once in a while, you know, do a 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.600 little do a little gloating, you know, pay the pay 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.840 the Man and diet Mountain dew and you know, and 0:12:58.920 --> 0:12:59.679 enjoy the show. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.720 You obviously go from that to more of like a real, 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.280 real co host role with Colin. And I always tell 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.720 people I've been a huge Colin Cowhard fan forever because 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.240 I'm a radio nerd, and I always would just admire 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.600 his ability to go off without anyone to bounce stuff 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.760 off of, because like you could listen to him on 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.679 the radio like when I was like younger, and I'd 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.559 be like, this guy, it's just him in there, just 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.680 like just talking and it's like really entertaining, which is 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.240 really hard. As you know, because you've been a part 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.280 of radio for so long. I think you guys had 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.720 such a dope dynamic on the show as you kind 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.040 of being his number two. What is it like, Because 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.120 I'm a huge Colin Coward fan, what's he like as 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.880 a guy? And just like what's it like working with him, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.640 Because you guys had a great run before you went 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.760 to speak for yourself and kick your own thing off. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.320 Colin's the best. He is. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.480 I'm a radio nerd too, so you'll appreciate this. He's 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.640 a huge prepper. Yeah, so he does a two hour 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.720 prep show before the three hour show, right, so there's 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.760 a lot of prep. He's very thorough. He wants to 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.040 make sure he has the graphics. He wants to support 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.600 what he's talking about. He wants to make sure that 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.439 he has the sound, he wants to support what he's 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:06.800 talking about. He wants to make sure he has the 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.120 statistics he's looked up, you know, the historical stuff that 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.400 goes along with what he's saying. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.120 He really talks. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:18.200 Through all of the topics. So his ability to you know, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.120 stretch a subject the way that you're talking about and 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.320 continue to have the conversation with you the listener. But 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.280 by himself, I mean his brain works differently to be 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.200 able to do that anyway. But it really also helps 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.000 that he preps a lot. He doesn't like to waste airtime, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.480 so sometimes sometimes it depends on the show obviously, but 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.960 we'll do a little banter back and forth, whatever about 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.400 you know, being in wine country or whatever. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.880 I'm going to Utah. But it's never too long. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.640 You know. We don't let that conversation be the conversation 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.800 we're having in this segment. Right, he always brings it 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.720 back to, Okay, what do we want to get to here? 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.480 We're gonna we're going to get Aaron Rodgers here. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:55.880 Like we can. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.040 We can go a little bit off to make sure 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.800 that people know that we're human beings. But but we 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.600 got to talk about what we planned on talking about. 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.720 He's very, very serious about the show. He feels like 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.240 it's disrespectful to the audience to not be prepared to 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:08.720 do a show. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:09.400 I love it. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.400 So that's what that's really what makes him great and 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.360 able to do such a big show, because three hours 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.720 of content is a long ass show. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:18.240 For sure. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.880 In our business, that is an insanely long show. And 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.200 he does it as his show, so he can do 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.600 all of that by himself if he needs to. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.200 Obviously for you, because you have your your solo podcast. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.520 I haven't done the podcast for a while, but I 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:34.400 have one forth. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.960 But while you were doing the Cowhart Show, you had 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.960 your your show, right, was the upside for you to 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.040 leave the Skip and Shanton Show, which is the biggest 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.440 show on the network to go to Colin. Was it 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.160 because you were able to have like, because you had 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.800 your own segment every day, were you able to kind 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.200 of like you were able to get your shit off? 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:50.400 You know? 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.040 Yeah, it was the upside or like what made you 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:53.800 want to make that move? 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.040 It was partly, you know, obviously a different role, in 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.000 a more expanded speaking role. When I when I first 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.480 went to Collin, it was still just you know, the 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.960 news updates. He'd bring me in here and there, but like, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.960 it took a little time for us to build up 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.960 the muscle of him being able to just lean on 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.240 me when he needed to, like this trust in chemistry. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.840 I had done the show a lot, so I had 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.480 already knew the beats of the show because I was 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.359 fill in on her a lot when I was doing Undisputed, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.640 So we already knew how to do the show together. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.600 But what the show was going to feel like together 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.800 just took a little time, and us doing it from 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.080 home during the pandemic. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.240 Actually really helped us a lot because we just had 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.480 to talk, that is all we had to do. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.360 We have nothing else going on with Yeah. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.040 But for me, you know, my goal was always to 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:40.880 be in the role that I'm in now, and it 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.520 was important to me to always keep growing in the business. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.040 So I did two years of Undisputed, and I felt 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.600 like I had you know, mastered that role, and there 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.000 were you know, I'd kind of hit the ceiling of 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.920 how much better I was going to get at that role, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.360 and I was ready to try something different and you know, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.840 get into a new challenge and a different type of show. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.480 So it was never like. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.400 I didn't want to work with them or anything like 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.800 I love skiping Shannon and love doing that show. It 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.440 was just time for me to go to a new role, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:07.080 something new York. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:07.360 Yeah. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.359