WEBVTT - I Could Lose My Life For Sharing This! | Travis Hunt 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.560 I can say your name, right, I think you can, 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:05.160 Travis Hunt. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:10.319 It's out there. There was freedom in that well, there's 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:14.079 some freedom and there's some you know, some sadness. 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.160 Interesting, I didn't even think about that. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.520 There is a sadness. I've had to die to what 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:19.040 I wanted. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:25.759 Wow, you know that that's the one thing we should 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.200 start were I'm at you, and then we'll see that 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.120 something you've been doing for a very long time has 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.519 drastically changed in the three years that I've known you. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.519 We're actually we have we have some friends in the 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.040 room today, which is rare but cool, and guys. I 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.600 wanted these guys to hear your story along with everyone 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.599 on the podcast. But I'll take us back to a 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:54.920 when's the fair July? Yes, July July August, three years ago, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:01:02.440 this coming July, and we're playing a concert. I am 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.000 on fire for the Lord and on my way out 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.880 of music, but no one knows that at the time, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.160 but my band is. They They just laugh at me. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.080 They see me doing these Bible studies and reading the 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:18.399 Bible and and engaging with people, engaging with people talking 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.600 about Bible things. And we end up at this fair 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.520 Chemist Valley fairs. What is it called? Nope, No, Roseburg, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.520 the Douglas County Fair, Douglas County Fair in Roseburg, Oregon. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.959 Yeah, and with Granger Smith as a headliner. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.679 Yes, we were headlining. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful place. And you 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:41.520 know the hillsides and green green evergreens and and and 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:46.760 hardwoods and rivers running through right right behind where the 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.920 fair was. And my guitar player Todd comes on in 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.720 that afternoon, Hey, Granger, something you might like out here 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.120 in the fair? Like what he goes, There's a booth 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.680 out here that says what does they say, Heaven or Hell? Yeah, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.000 it says Heaven or Hell. You know, to question booth. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.000 They call it two Question booth. You might want to 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.600 go check it out. And I was like, yes, I do, Yeah, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.320 I jump up. That sounds that sounds amazing. I would 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:12.519 love to go talk to these guys. So on my 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.720 way there, I'm walking to this booths in the middle 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.760 of the afternoon and this beautiful fair, and I had 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:23.960 been doing so much work with atheist it like the 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.320 previous day. I think I was talking all day with 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.840 an atheist and and I thought, I think I'm gonna 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.480 be an atheist today for this booth. We'll test them 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.440 out a little bit now. Whether or not this is 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.480 a good thing or not, it's I don't know, probably 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.440 not a good thing. You guys, don't judge them. Actually, yeah, 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.400 don't judge me for it. This was the wise decision 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.600 that I had. I was working with the tools I 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.760 had at the time. So I go to this booth 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.160 and they're like, you know, hello, sir, how can we 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.320 help you? And I was like, I just don't know. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.520 What are you guys? What are you selling? Like, well, actually, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.640 we're not selling anything. We're just here to answer a 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.880 simple question. You know, are you going to heaven or Hell? 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.280 And I was like, neither exist, so I don't think 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.720 I'm going to either one. And they're like, yeah, we 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.959 respect your opinion. Can we ask you a few questions? 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.520 And I was like is it religious garbage? And they're like, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.560 let me show you some let me let me, let 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.400 me ask you a few questions and we could we 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.320 can get to your point and find out, you know, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.920 where you're standing. This went on, you know, I'm just 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.440 throwing out everything. They were very gracious and very wise, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.920 and uh, they had a heart for me. They loved me. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.960 You know. It was a beautiful thing. And this went 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.160 on for In my mind it's thirty minutes, but it 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.000 was probably more like fifteen, you know. And then this 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.800 girl walks up. I remember she was. She had short 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.800 hair and it was spray painted pink and she was 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.280 wearing all black. Other than that, I just wanted to talk. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.680 There's something about her and I just thought, oh, like 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.400 the game's over now. Yeah, well, she needs to talk. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.040 And so I was like, I'm sorry, guys, let me 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.680 let me, let me bring her in here. And they 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.600 were like, we're not finished with you. Yeah, And I 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.760 was like, seriously, guys, like you need to talk to her. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.880 I think she really wants to talk. And Farren, who 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.720 I now know is your son who's now a dear brother, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.520 love him to death. He was like, I'm not finished 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.120 with you yet, you guys, can you handle her. We're 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:20.760 going outside. 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:22.719 Yeah, we're gonna step outside of the booth, which means 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.839 something else in your previous life stepping outside. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.560 This is a good thing to step outside. And I 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.640 went around the side of the booth and I was like, brother, 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.000 I'm a Christian. He goes, I don't believe you one bit, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.480 and I said, don't really. He goes, tell me the gospel, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.480 and so we started walking through the Book of Romans, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:46.359 you know, right, and he goes, oh, so you are okay, okay, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.479 you're believing. What in the world are you doing? And 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.160 I was like, it might have been this might have 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.000 been unwise. I just I came over here and I've 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.040 been talking to this atheist in the last few days 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.200 and you guys did great. Let me go introduce myself. 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.360 One of the guys, he was brand new to the booth. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:02.760 I think it was his first year. He was a 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.160 little upset and rightly so he was like, what were 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.479 you trying to do? And I was like, oh, you're right. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:13.640 I'm so sorry. I was out of line. And but 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.560 then Farron and I connected and he goes, hey, let's 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.600 let's take a walk. So we walked through the fair 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.599 and we went and looked at the stage and the 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.039 guys were kind of sound checking, and we our conversations 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:29.080 were getting deeper and deeper, and I told Farren, probably 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.480 the first person outside of my family, and I said, see, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.480 oh this is going away. I'm leaving this yeah, And 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.159 he wasn't like what He goes, the Lord does that thing. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.360 You know, the Lord. The Lord does such things, you know. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.440 Yeah, he's seen a couple of them, or the Lord 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.599 just radically changed people like that. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.039 And he said, you know, you should meet my dad 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.520 one day. I think you'd really like my dad. And 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.800 I was like, yeah, you know, maybe I wasn't. I 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.159 was not expecting you or anywhere in the vicinity. And 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.440 I was like, yeah, I would like that, and he goes, okay. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.480 We exchanged numbers, and I said, let's let's get together 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.839 to night. Let's have dinner and we'll have you guys backstage, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.000 and and he said, yeah, I have a friend that's 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.120 coming tonight and he's he's not saved, and but he 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.680 really loved you. And I said, well, I'm gonna I'm 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.520 gonna preach the gospel from the States tonight. And he goes, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.080 that would be that would be really encouraging, that'd be fantastic. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.640 And so I get back on the bus and then 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.280 he texted me. He says, hey, Dad's here, you want 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:26.040 to come meet him. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.480 I was like, okay, so you had like just minutes 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.560 away from him, and turned around and came back. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.960 Yeah, it was short. It was a short time. I 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.880 go down and and there you are, and you brought 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:47.400 someone with you about Chris, Yeah, that's right. And I 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.920 met you and I just thought, I like this guy. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:56.200 You to me, you brought you brought a navy seal 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:02.440 aspect to a believer when sometimes people think of Christians 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.039 is mild. And we misuse the word meek all the time. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.040 We completely misuse it as we we use meek as weak. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.960 But here you are, and you're just locked on you know, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.760 your eyes around me. You're probably going let me see 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.640 if this guy's a believer. First of all, you want 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.680 to know what I was thinking. Yeah, yeah, okay, So 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.880 my son had told me you were a believer. I 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:29.960 have seen God do so many insane things. I was praying, Lord, 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.320 what is this about? Who is this? What do you want? 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.560 That was seriously, I'm like, okay, we got somebody who's 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.440 famous in front of me, engaged. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.800 What are you doing? What do you want? That's seriously 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:43.520 what was going through my mind. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.239 So as I was listening, we're engaging, I was trying 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.760 to assess, Lord, you got your hand on this guy. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.560 I just need to know why I'm here. So that's 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.200 what I was praying about. Why am I here? Why 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.360 is this conversation happening. So that's what was going through 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.040 my mind. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.559 Well, everything that's going in my mind is I'm talking 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.480 to you and you're telling me. And at the time, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.280 kind of going back to the beginning of this conversation, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.560 the world, your name doesn't exist in the world at 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.800 this point outside of your own church. Really, your your 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:16.560 name doesn't exist on purpose because you you're international missionary. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.760 I don't even like to say that because that gives 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.520 people this this wrong wrong the idea, this wrong view. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.840 So we'll get to that. But you're you're a guy 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:35.000 that travels for very specific reasons and does pretty significant things, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.640 and you don't go for flippiant reasons. It's all. It's 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:44.240 always very calculated, and everything in my spirit was just saying, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.000 go go with them. Yeah, I heard that. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.200 I was pretty surprised at your response. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.560 So I said, can I get your number? Uh? Somehow 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.800 we exchange numbers, and I said something, you remember it 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.679 better than I at all. I remember what I say. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.959 You said, consider me a coin in your pocket, spend. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:02.640 Me wherever you will. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.199 Yeah, yeah, and then you remember what I said. No, 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.559 And I think someone was with me, but I can't 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.800 remember who. It was, but I remember saying, don't say 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.960 that to me. Those are my words. I remember, don't 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.080 say that. You know, actually, do not say those things 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:23.439 to me, because now you know what I mean. Because 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.959 when somebody says that and they really mean it, I 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.480 know there is a great work ahead and it's far 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:33.400 beyond anything we've ever imagined. Yeah, and so yeah, you're like, no, no, 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.720 I'm serious, I'm serious. Use me if the Lord has 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.959 a place, use me anywhere you see fit. Consider me 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:40.880 a coin in your pocket. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.760 I remember asking there in that night, I said, is 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.480 your dad serious about that? I mean, is he one 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.880 of these guys that like says things to talk? Yeah? 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.880 And he goes, I've never known him to say anything 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.360 that actually didn't happen. He's like, Okay, he's that kind 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.920 of guy. Later, a few weeks go by, Farren and 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:03.160 I connected again through the loss of a son. We 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.000 both have in common loss of a son. I'm not 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.199 sure if he realized it at the time. I certainly 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.880 didn't realize it with him. But we connected later and 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.560 you know, talked for hours on the phone over several times. Yeah, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.640 and got closer and closer throne than I did. But 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.079 I didn't know what was coming with you. Neither did I. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:28.199 It was only a few months. Yeah, it's not very long. Hey, Granger, 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:29.400 it's Travis. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.080 Well, first of all, that's surreal for me. I'm gonna 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.520 call Granger Smith. I mean, that's just so you know, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.600 that's just a little unusual. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.200 So I call you. Yeah, Hey, Granger, And what am 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.719 I about to say? I have not spoken about in 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.480 public at all. You and I spoke before we recorded. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.079 We think that this is probably open information now. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.560 I think that at this point because of what's happened 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.160 through social media and actually what happened in our trip 0:10:58.480 --> 0:10:59.640 to the country. I don't know if you're going to 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.480 name it, but the trip to the country we went in, 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.000 I realized at this point I'm no longer hidden, and 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.880 so what I have to do now needs be done publicly, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.480 and someone else has to do the work I was 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.079 doing because you can't. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:16.400 You can't have a. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:23.319 Social media or an electronic footprint and do what we 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:23.840 were doing. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:24.440 You can't. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.719 And it's getting harder and harder with AI anyway, So 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.800 at this point, yeah, I think we're probably okay. I 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.560 think we should keep some of the details quite. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.040 I'll go like minimal details. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.839 But yeah, we can talk about the idea of it 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:37.640 and what happened. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.240 So what happened. A lot of people that have been 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.839 following me for a long time might remember this time 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.480 when I kind of went dark and said I'm going 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.560 some places and you know you won't hear from me. Well, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.199 that goes back to this phone conversation, which at the 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:54.079 time you were either t or another name that we 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.280 used as a nickname, which we don't want to use here, 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.000 which we won't. I won't use that name, but but 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.760 travel was not a name. Really, I didn't call you 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.640 Travis for at least a year into our relationship. Yeah, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.160 not because it was necessarily bad and right place it 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.800 was a good It was a habit. I didn't want 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.959 to say by having you were gs. Yes, yes, And 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.920 so he says T at the time says to me, 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.960 we're talking on on on on closed you know, encrypted 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.480 and messaging. We're not we never talk on regular phone lines. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.000 He goes, can you record an album? I was like, yeah, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.679 I've done that. I've done it. Yeah, I've done it 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.240 for years, And you go, can you record an album 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.599 outside of the studio? Yeah? Sure, he was, can you 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.760 do it anywhere in the world. Yeah, sure can. Yeah, 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.439 I said, I actually have the equipment in my backpack 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.200 almost at all times because I have a radio show. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.839 I carry it right, you know, Okay, have an idea. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.040 In fact, you we might have continued to another time. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.280 You might have said, I'll get back to you. Yeah, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:02.520 But either way, what happened was you realize that there 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.440 was a need in your ministry. From the multiple facets 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.240 of your ministry that you were doing with your team, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.240 you realize there was a there was a gap in 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:16.360 worship music for certain cultures around the world, with certain languages, 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.600 but didn't have it. Yeah, the great, the. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.480 Great need is and it has been missed by Western 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:22.600 missionaries for so long. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:24.560 Is that a lot? 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.720 And you see this when you travel in the Third World. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.839 A lot of the churches are singing our songs translated 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.280 into their language. It's our hymns, it's. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.280 Our worship songs, our choruses. There are are words the way. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.440 We say things, and they're not their heart language, they're 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:49.440 not their style. There's just no connection. But they think 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.679 that's Christianity, and so we must. We want to say 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.920 these good things about God, so we must use these 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.520 words and sing these songs. These are spiritual songs. 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:06.920 And in fact we're European, we're Western. I mean, the. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:13.760 Messianic or Jewish worship songs are nothing like our songs 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:19.520 because they have a completely different heart, language and the 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.480 way they the music that they that they enjoy. And 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:27.080 so the problem was that I personally, and I know 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.520 there's a lot of people that feel this way, feel 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.080 like the people should be able to sing songs to 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:37.160 God the way they sing, imagine that that the worship 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.960 would be something that they would be doing with their 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.720 family and their friends, and that there's a lot of 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:52.080 amazing songwriters out there who have just no connection to anybody, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.560 and how do we get their music to their people? 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.800 So when they're singing and the songs are bursting out 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.640 of their mouth and they're gatherings, it's their songs. Yeah, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.680 a new song, you know, Revelation says a new. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.920 Song Revelation five. And you you recognized that there were 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.920 certain language groups that didn't have it, and certain churches 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.560 that had none, none of their own music to sing 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.680 and write zero. That is a major gap that the 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.360 Lord put on your heart to fill. And somehow that 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.840 coin was in your pocket from me. Yeah, I'm like, oh, 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.360 I got to I got someone who knows how to 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.280 make music. Yeah. So the first plan was to go 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.160 somewhere else. I think it was somewhere in Europe, and 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.320 we were going to go do this in Europe, and 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.880 I'm like, you know, I've still got a tour schedule, 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.520 i still still have a job at the time doing music. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.400 And then I was like, oh yeah, wow, okay, Lord, 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.000 maybe you have prepared me all these years for this, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.360 like for you know, I thought making music was for me, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.920 for exalting myself and getting people like me. Maybe it 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.120 never was about me at all. Maybe it was just 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.720 my recording skills. Yeah, it's just the computer and learning 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.920 how to set up a microphone. And then that changed. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.560 That actually fell through, and I thought, oh that's a bummer, 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.240 you know, it fell through, and then it so we 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.280 went a little deeper. It came up here, if Europe 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.360 doesn't work, we'll go a little deeper. It was actually 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:23.480 into the Middle Eastern area, into the sandbox. Yeah, let's go. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.800 Let's go into the sandbox and do this. You're ready 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.880 And I'm like, yes, I'm ready, got tickets. I'm thinking 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.720 maybe this, maybe this will fall through. Sure, you know, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.120 I've got a couple of microphones, cables, computer. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.600 And let's let's remember you and I have never done 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.680 anything together, never, And so you're believing that this guy 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:50.080 with this idea isn't just a nutcase, but he's going 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.240 to follow through a little bit. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:52.880 So you're thinking same thing with me. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.040 I was like, I can't believe he's going to do this. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.840 It looks like he might do this. This is great 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.640 and if not, we'll record him with our phones. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.680 But you know, yeah, so I get to uh said 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.480 country land. You picked me up with with one of 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.359 the guys that we worked with, and late night at 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.280 the airport, we came into the you know, really a 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.280 safe house. We could say that, you know, it was 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.359 stayed in a missionary safe house. And I had been 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:23.400 to the Middle East before, to Kuwait and Iraq. Right, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.720 but this but but once again, that was like the 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.800 Lord was preparing me. I'd been in Iraq three times, right, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.040 Why did I do that? Oh? The Lord was getting 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.840 me in a rhythm for something. All these little things 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.920 started adding up. I was having dreams about the Middle East, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.760 I mean, like wildly vivid, the kind of dreams that 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.480 we talked about this yesterday, the kind of dreams that 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.119 your brain didn't generate, right, right. You know, there are 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.920 dreams the Lord very rarely in your life. Does it 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.240 happen some people more than others. But there are times 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.800 when you wake up in a cold sweat with chills, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.240 your down, your your entire body, and you go, what 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.440 just happened in my dream? Yeah, those kind of dreams 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.840 about what we were about to do. So we get there, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.480 We get to the safe house and woke up the 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.520 next morning early, and we walked to a coffee place, uh, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:20.360 and got a turkey croissant. Because there is, by the way, 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:21.760 that is important. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.159 If you do travel with me, you must go to 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:24.920 a coffee place. 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:30.680 Coffee very important. Tray, yes, very important. Uh. So we go, 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.760 we kind of get and it was a beautiful thing. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.600 You know. We go to this coffee house and and 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.159 you're like, okay, we we will pray. They're saying this 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.680 low you know, we will pray, but we're gonna say 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.200 the King, and we're gonna keep our eyes open. We're 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.320 not gonna bow our heads and see your hats on. 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.880 We leave your hats on. We're holding our croissant. Sandwiches, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:55.080 looking at each other, going, isn't the king good? Isn't 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.360 the king good? Yes to the King, to the king, 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:01.960 you know that was those That's that's a beautiful prayer. Yeah, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:03.800 if you think about what that means, that's a prayer 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.680 that that was said many times in the Book of 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.760 Acts and during that era in the early Church under persecution. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.560 Keep your eyes open, your head up, fill your heart 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:18.520 with rejoicing for the Lord, and he sees, and he sees. Yeah, 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.640 so we we we start. We ended up recording five 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.920 different languages, five songs, so twenty five songs. 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:26.800 Right, but just posted actually, but I don't want to 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:27.680 give the website. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.560 And we'll still do that. But meanwhile, you and the 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.600 rest of the team are working on your own things. Right, 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.400 So you said, okay, Granger, you're good. Okay, we're out, 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:35.320 you know, well. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.200 Way a second, wait a second that you're yeah. I 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.639 don't know if you're going to give the details. But 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.640 he makes his own studio by flipping sofas on edge 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.879 and shoving these pads on top of the making a 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.040 little microphone areas. And I remember walking in thinking this, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.600 I took pictures of it. I'm like this is funky, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:54.800 but you got the sound you were looking for, and 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:59.760 we had because of the concrete walls, right, it was 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:03.320 just the echo was a problem and street noise and 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:03.960 you're hot. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.040 Yeah, it was so hot. I don't think there's any 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:07.640 air conditioning in that room. No, we had to turn 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.040 off recording so loud. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.240 It was just sweating and and oh yeah, yeah, I 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:14.720 remember that. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.720 And I go at one point, I go upstairs and 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.760 you guys are teaching pastors. You're teaching them to read 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.240 and and to teach the Bible accurately. And you guys 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.200 are kind of sitting in your chairs and you're going, Nope, 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.119 that's not what the Bible says. No, And they you know, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.320 these guys, and they're from all over the Middle East 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.800 and India area regions, multiple regions, and they're like, go 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.440 back to it again, go back And I'm like, whoa, 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.920 this is cool. They go back down and continue recording. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.480 So I I have a translator, thank goodness. A couple 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.800 of these guys, a couple of these musicians cannot speak 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:53.440 any English at all, right, and but we're wanting to 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:58.080 make sure that what they're singing is good. Yeah, biblical, biblical, 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:02.680 So We're constantly going back checking lyrics, making sure these 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.720 these things add up, and a couple of times we're like, 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.560