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Speaker 1: you know, right around the back of his shoulder and neck,

429
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Speaker 1: and I just looked at him, just eye to eye,

430
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Speaker 1: and our eyes were just glazed over. Yeah, you know,

431
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Speaker 1: there was no words, just yeah. And he put his

432
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Speaker 1: hand on me, and suddenly we were brothers united in

433
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: something that was deeper than we could ever imagine. And

434
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: he came back in when we finished the song. Yeah. Well,

435
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: it's incredible even talking about this, because I haven't got

436
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: to talk about these things. Constantly interrupted, constantly by the

437
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: loud speakers outside calling for prayer, the the Islamic call

438
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: for prayer. Yes, we got to stop now, got to stop.

439
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: Just blaring call for prayer constantly woke us up in

440
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: the morning. And it was a good time to get

441
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: four am. He's calling, you know, and and not only

442
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: one loud speaker, but they're kind of all the different

443
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: little moll and it just became part of our rhythm

444
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: where it's just it was like i'll say it this way,

445
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: and I don't, I should say it this way. It

446
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: was like the enemy was always always right around the corner,

447
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, just going I'm watching you. Yeah, that's what

448
00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: it felt like.

449
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the worship of God went on, and

450
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: it has been posted in the places that are safe,

451
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: and the national churches and the indigenous churches are using

452
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: it and they are singing it. And we've even had

453
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: seminars where we bring in worship leaders and teach them

454
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: their own songs. Yes, because they've never heard these songs,

455
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: but they're their songs and their songwriters. And so that

456
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: has occurred. And I have videos of small groups which, yeah,

457
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: singing these worship songs in small secret Christian groups that

458
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: this guy wrote and that was recorded and they got

459
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Speaker 2: off of YouTube. And that's I'll talk a little bit

460
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Speaker 2: about the YouTube thing if I can.

461
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Speaker 1: I mean, we were, you know, security better than not.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were gonna put them. We were going to

463
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Speaker 2: give them to them through secret electronic means. And after

464
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Speaker 2: a while, the the people who make the decisions all

465
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Speaker 2: to say that the inside people in these countries said,

466
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: you can't can't do that anymore. If you show up

467
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: with these and there is no other place on planet

468
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: Earth you can get them, they will already know you're

469
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: a Christian, so they said, and this is where we're

470
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: at now. The best thing you can do is post

471
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: them for the whole world. And then if you have

472
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Speaker 2: them on your device, you could say I just found

473
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: this place. I found this and I downloaded this. No,

474
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: I didn't have a secret meeting with a secret believer

475
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Speaker 2: from a secret country.

476
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it off the internet. This is right here. Look,

477
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: i'll show you this place. Now.

478
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: They may still be beaten, but they're less likely to

479
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: be tortured to find out who their contacts are.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, one time I was in Tennessee in an

481
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Speaker 1: uber and I asked the guy where he's from. He's

482
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Speaker 1: from one of those countries. I ask him what language

483
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: he speaks. He's from. He speaks one of those five languages.

484
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, you're you're Muslim. He said yes,

485
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: And I said, hi, I have some music I would

486
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: love to play for you pulled up you know yeah,

487
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: and started playing it. And instantly, first of all, you're thinking,

488
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: how could you possibly know my language? Yeah, my language

489
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: press playing he's what you know? My culture? And then

490
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: and I said do you know what it's saying? And

491
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: he goes, yes, yes, I know. What is that? I

492
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: was like, here, I'll get your number, man, I'll give

493
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: you this right now. Yeah. It was like, wow, this

494
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. So then from

495
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: there we made a jump into a country. I don't

496
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: know if we want to say we don't have to.

497
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that we should say. But it's still

498
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: in the region. It's a very hot region. We went

499
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: to a country where you are not supposed to go

500
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Speaker 1: and we went there. Yes, and we thought we were

501
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Speaker 1: being sneaky.

502
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a plan and it was a great

503
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: plan and it should work, and we had a lot

504
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: of professionals involved so that it was a legitimate reason

505
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: for being there, and we were just kind of doing exploration.

506
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: You know, is this something that can fly? Is can

507
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: we start a small business kind of a thing that

508
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: is legitimate and then employ underground believers, feed them and

509
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: then teach them at the same time. So that's kind

510
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: of the plan. Can we do this we show up

511
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: at That's when I realized I was uncovered. At point

512
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: in time when we arrived, they were really interested in you.

513
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: You were the main contact when we arrived. But then

514
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: at one point, at a table about twice as long

515
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: as this or three times as long as this, we

516
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: were sitting down and eating something and drinking something else something.

517
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: We got very sick on, Yeah, very sick.

518
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: And they typed in my home town.

519
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: And the second picture of my hometown on their Google

520
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 2: photos was me at the pulpit preaching.

521
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

522
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: I just kind of shrunk back, and suddenly I didn't

523
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: want to talk anymore because now this looks really bad,

524
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: really really bad, and it got.

525
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: It got I felt sketchy.

526
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: I think that we were wise and that we didn't engage,

527
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: But we had some strange interrogations that occurred after that. Yes,

528
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 2: you specifically, because I got quieter and quieter, but they

529
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: kept saying, what exactly do you do?

530
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the guys, what do you do? You

531
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: know you would see him in a movie and be

532
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: he's just that guy. Guy's a scary guy man, mob boss,

533
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: kind of guy. And we had been saying he was

534
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: a guy that drove around with machine gun back this truck.

535
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: But anyways, yeah, which we later learned, don't don't ride

536
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: in the truck with the machine gun right in the

537
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: other truck truck.

538
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: We learned, don't ride in the truck that's in front of.

539
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: The machine gun. So they knew that you and the

540
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: other guy that was with us were investors, business investors,

541
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: and all that was correct. What I was, that was

542
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: all correct. The amount that you were. We didn't have

543
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: to say that. And then you talked a lot about

544
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: ranching and chicken farming, and but you also just knew.

545
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: A lot of information about a lot of way too

546
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 2: much information about everything.

547
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: This mob boss guy at one point at dinner goes,

548
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: tell me again, what is it you do just like that? Yeah,

549
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: And me and the other guy, well two other guys

550
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: were yeah. Red flags went up, Oh man, this is

551
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: not this is not this dinner is not going. Well.

552
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: That's when we all knew, without saying it, that this

553
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: was bad, that we can't come. We can't return to

554
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: this country like we thought we might not in the

555
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: plan we had. Uh, we go back and at the hotel.

556
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: The American flag which is flying there is now flying

557
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: upside down, right, it's like pictures of it. That was

558
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: not settling. We thought behind the multiple barriers for explosives,

559
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: so we have to go through multi get into the

560
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: hotel lobby. Yeah. Yeah, and it wasn't No one makes

561
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: a mistake to fly the American flag upside down. No,

562
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: it's intentional. It was a message.

563
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, as a message because you actually

564
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: mentioned it to the concierge and it didn't get fixed.

565
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I did. For all those people I listening right now,

566
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I actually said, hey, this might not be a big

567
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: deal to you, but that's my flag out there and

568
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: it's upside down, and just just wanted to bring it up.

569
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: Oh it is, yes, yes, yes, we will tell, We

570
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: will tell. Yeah till management So sorry about that. Yeah yeah, yeah,

571
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: nothing happened. Yeah, and then again didn't get changed. We

572
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: we got out of there. We didn't know we got

573
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: back to the airport, we didn't know if we would

574
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: actually make it back into the the host country. But

575
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: we did. I mean we were. It was good out.

576
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: It was Yeah.

577
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: I've had a few close calls in my life and

578
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: all that. Oh, nothing was openly done. I had I

579
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: was not comfortable, spiritually, not comfortable prepared for anything. When

580
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: we were in the hotels, we didn't talk about and

581
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: then we decided this before we went in. There was

582
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: no conversation about our faith, about the Bible. We didn't

583
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: open a Bible literature. We are surveilled the entire time.

584
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: There's someone listening. Yeah, you just you just It was just.

585
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: There wasn't any code words, We didn't do anything. We

586
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: were just what we were.

587
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Because they were watching continuously. But I was pretty happy

588
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: when we left.

589
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: I was very happy. It looks like I'm going home.

590
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I had a Louis Lamore Old Cowboy book reading. You know.

591
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: That's as far as exposure as I wanted to get.

592
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: My phone had like no pictures, just very boring pictures

593
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: of my dog and things like that. We were fully

594
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: prepared that we were going to get some kind of interrogation.

595
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: But we got out of there and then we learned

596
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: a lot from that trip, a lot. I learned a

597
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: lot too, And that's the first trip we took together.

598
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: It was crazy, was that the first trip. That was

599
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: our first trip together. Man, when we got close. Yeah, yeah,

600
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: if you want to get a hold of me for

601
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: any reason. Go to cameo dot com slash granger Smith.

602
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: It's a great way to get someone a gift that

603
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: you don't know what to get. It's a video message

604
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: from me. Basically, you message me and say, hey, can

605
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: you tell my brother happy birthday? Can you tell my

606
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: wife happy inniversary? Or can you give me a word

607
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: of encouragement or maybe even a prayer? Go to cameo

608
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: dot com slash granger Smith. Fill that out and it

609
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: comes right to my phone. I read what you want

610
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: me to say. I could add libit. I take my phone,

611
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: put it on selfie mode, shoot a quick video saying hey, Bob,

612
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Cindy wanted me to tell you a happy anniversary, and

613
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: you know whatever you woman to say, and then I'll

614
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: send you that video message and then you give it

615
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: to Cindy's It's a great little tool. Using this for

616
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: a long time. Cameo dot com slash granger Smith. Have

617
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: you heard about ee Fest yet? I need to tell you.

618
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: It's May ninth and tenth at the EEE Farm. We're

619
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna have a truck show, We're gonna have a mud bog,

620
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: lots of good food, lots of people from YE Nation

621
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: will be there, and I'm even gonna do some kind

622
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: of live podcast. Uh don't know how that's gonna look yet,

623
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do a live audience, live podcast, answer questions,

624
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: gonna have Amber there, most of my team and my

625
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: brothers will all be there, and you know, we'll be

626
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: at the EEE Farm, so you get to come. It's

627
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: open to the public completely and you get to come

628
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: and hang out with us at the EEE Farm. I

629
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be so much fun. And here's the surprise.

630
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Saturday night, May the tenth, I'm actually playing a concert,

631
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: my full band, all the crew. It's it will be

632
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: the only concert we do the entire year. So you

633
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: don't want to miss this. I mean, this is gonna

634
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: be If you're part of EU Nation or you want

635
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: to be part of EU Nation, you got to check

636
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: this out. You go to ee E fest dot com

637
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: for all your info. I'm looking at it right now.

638
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: If you're wondering the price for the full weekend, it's

639
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: seventy nine bucks for a ticket. If you just want

640
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: to go to one day, like a single pass on

641
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Friday is thirty nine bucks, and a single pass on

642
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: Saturday is only fifty nine bucks, So if you want

643
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: to go to this concert fifty nine bucks, kids are

644
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: cheaper than that. And then there's all kind of like

645
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: vip packages ways to get your truck in there. We

646
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: could sit on your tailgate of your own truck. It's

647
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: going to be a really, really good time. I'm so

648
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 1: excited about this once again. Ye Fest coming May ninth

649
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: and tenth. Go to ee dot com or eeefest dot

650
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: com for more details. We have since traveled to many

651
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: countries after that, some we can't mention again, but we

652
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: have done done some crazy work together. Israel twice. We've

653
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: done that twice. Well before we jump onto Israel, let's

654
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: stay in that country. We have and you have been

655
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: a part of this in a big way. Brother.

656
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: We have rescue believers in that country who were being

657
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: hunted to be executed. Multiple families are currently spread around

658
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: the world in safe locations because we have helped them

659
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: to find a way out, and some of their stories

660
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: are super hair raising. But that same country we were not,

661
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: we weren't able to go in, and I'm still in

662
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: contact with leaders in that country and we're still helping them,

663
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: and I can't really tell you the projects because it

664
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: would reveal the leader. But some of the key leaders

665
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: have been uncovered, especially at the fall of another country

666
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: which you could probably figure it out. There was a

667
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: removal of American military, but I'm not going to say

668
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: that name. They helped them, So that country we were

669
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: in was helping this other country.

670
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 1: Which was in worse shape. Everyone knows what we're talking about,

671
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, they do it.

672
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not as easy to search my AI

673
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: if we don't use the names. So anyways, they they

674
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: got uncovered and had to flee for their own lives.

675
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: So it just sort of dominoed out. And even currently

676
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: your translator, it's currently in that place where all the

677
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: mosques were. He's there right.

678
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Now and.

679
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Working hard for the Lord in an amazing way. But

680
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: I would just say, would you pray for him. He's

681
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: he's got a very legitimate reason and we've applied for

682
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: asylum in the US. But it's not a good environment

683
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: right now, you know, with all of the illegal stuff

684
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: that's going on the immigration and all the response. But

685
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: he he's a real he's got a real shot if

686
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: somebody will actually look at his his paperwork.

687
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: So remember to pray for him. Yeah, yeah, we're talking

688
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: about the guy that was the translator that we're not said.

689
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: The guy lost his son and we had you know,

690
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: we got really close to the translator and I and

691
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: he's a great brother and he is he's heavily persecuted

692
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: in that country because you cannot return. Even within the

693
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Middle East, those countries are prejudiced against each other, and

694
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: that's what's going on. He's from another country. They don't

695
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: like that other country. Racism. We don't know much about racism.

696
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Do you want to know racism?

697
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: Go to the Middle East and watch the way they

698
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: treat each other Sunni's and shes and you know, this

699
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: clan and that clan and this sect and they there

700
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: is racism, enormous racism. And then ask, okay, I'm really

701
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: going to go out on a limb, ask the Arabs

702
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: how they feel about the Africans, and you're like, wow,

703
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: there is real racism that occurs.

704
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there are countries in between that we won't mention,

705
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: but we have done different things there. But but then Israel,

706
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: we could we can openly talk about Israel because I've

707
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: actually filmed that and put that on social media. Another

708
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: glaring aspect of racism is right there in that country.

709
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Oh man.

710
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's real there's real ethnic hatred.

711
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we've taken two trips together, two of them

712
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: both of them were last year. You took a trip

713
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: which I have FOMO about without me recently. But there

714
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: are multi layered reasons while we have done those those

715
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: trips to Israel, and one of the reasons that it's

716
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: it's a place we could return to is because of

717
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: the turmoil the war. Yeah, there is a softening in

718
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: the country of hearts that are more willing to listen.

719
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some amazing stuff that happened. So, having been

720
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: you know, to Israel a few times prior to our

721
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: first trip together, we've tried to do you know, I

722
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: actually I don't know how much we can talk about

723
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: because some of what we would like to talk about

724
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: may not be acceptable to the count to that country

725
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: the conversation. So we have been shared the gospel absolutely

726
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: with people. But I have just been amazed at the

727
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: softening that occurred. I have one specific incident which I

728
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: think I can say, which totally blew me away. And

729
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: if I don't give any dates, probably no one will

730
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: get in trouble. So we're there and because of the war,

731
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: everybody's fear of death. Psalm ninety twelve teach us a

732
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: number of our days that we may gain a heart

733
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: of wisdom. Right, And in Ecclesiastes seven it says, I'd

734
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: rather go to the house of morning than in the

735
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: house of feasting, for that is the end of all man,

736
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: and the living will take it to heart.

737
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Speaker 1: So death is what creates a softening in your heart.

738
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Speaker 2: It should can create a softening in your heart towards Okay,

739
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: what happens next, Yes, it's that breaking point that we

740
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: were talking about. That moment we're like, wow, I'm at

741
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: the bottom, like literally I could die tomorrow and so unbelievable.

742
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: So we're walking up to the jaffagain. It's my favorite story.

743
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: It may be for the next twenty years, because I've

744
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: tried so hard to share the Gospel with Jewish people.

745
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: And they're hard like rock, you know, and like just

746
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: that if you had enough. Well, it's Israel, it's Christian Disneyland.

747
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: So they're sick of every type of Christian, every strange

748
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: and odd Christian showing up and doing strange and odd

749
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: things in their backyard. And they're just sick of it.

750
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: But we're there and there's nobody. There isn't a single

751
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: other anybody. We opened up so many sites. They're like, hey,

752
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: could we see this amazing, like when nobody's been here

753
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: for months? Yeah, can we We had to bribe one

754
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: priest with it.

755
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: What was it? A peach? Oranges? An orange? Yeah, from Jericha. Yeah,

756
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: like this is the best orange in the world. It's

757
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: a Jericho orange.

758
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: And he finally came back and he almost didn't open it,

759
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: but he did open the caves of Bethlehem for us.

760
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: But anyways, I digress. So I'm we're at the.

761
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: Jaffa Gate and we're leaving and we have these little pins,

762
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: these little leather pins that we had made. They just

763
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: have their very simple non Christian. It's got the Star

764
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: of David with a heart in them. It's a little

765
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: lapel pin and they're really classy. And so we have

766
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: these and we're giving them out and praying for people.

767
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: Can we pray for you?

768
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: They want us to pray for them. They are open

769
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: to the Christians praying for them. They're open to a

770
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: couple of things, but that's one of them. But so

771
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: we're standing off. You were there, right, We're standing off

772
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: at the Java gate and there's like twenty military people

773
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: at the Java Gate and there's a civilian outfront going

774
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: blah blah.

775
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: We're talking away and we're just looking at this.

776
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: Now there's a lot of military and Jerusalem. This is

777
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: when rockets were going over and there was a lot

778
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: of activity and there was terrorist attacks in the city,

779
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: knife explosions. Last trip, there was explosions when I was there.

780
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: They blew up four buses right where we were. But anyways,

781
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: so there's military movement and we come later on to

782
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: find out that there is a guard change occurring in Jerusalem,

783
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: and so these are twenty or twenty five officers who

784
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: were overseeing the new recruits who are now gonna take

785
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: Jerusalem proper and guard it. And they're shifting out for

786
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: the war and God and so they're getting orientation.

787
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: So we didn't know any of.

788
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: This, and I didn't know they were officers, you know,

789
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: I just here they are all standing there and we

790
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: have these pins, and everybody had been so open to

791
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: let us pray for him, and so we're just kind

792
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: of standing at a distance.

793
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: I remember, we're all kind of huddled and we are

794
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: we are we stand out.

795
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: We are clearly not them, and nobody else is there

796
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: but us. And they're standing out there and this woman

797
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: comes back and turns out she's the commanding officer. And

798
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: she comes back and she.

799
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: Says, why are you here? Good English? Why are you here?

800
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: And we're like, we tell her, well, we want to

801
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: pray and let you guys know that the you may

802
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: feel like the whole world's against you, but the Christians

803
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: are not. We love you, we're praying for you, we

804
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: want to encourage you.

805
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: We're praying for.

806
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Your safety and for peace for this land. And she's like, oh,

807
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: it's wonderful. Do you want to talk to my officers?

808
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: And I said, this is one of those out on

809
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: a limb. I said, well, the only thing I really

810
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: want to talk to your officers about is Jesus. Now

811
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: that is not the good plan, but that's just a

812
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: totally supernatural event.

813
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: I remember. She kind of turns her head sideways and

814
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: looks at me and she goes, you want to tell

815
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: my officers about Jesus. And I'm thinking that's the end

816
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: of that. I said yeah. She goes, come come, and

817
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: so here we come.

818
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: We're literally going to go stand at the Jaffa gate

819
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: in Jerusalem to twenty officers, and she's just given me

820
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: permission to tell them about Jesus. She brings him around

821
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: and she kind of does a little miniature introduction and

822
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: the civilian. Turns out, the civilian did not like it.

823
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: She was some sort of an administrator.

824
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Was very I'll tell that story after. Yeah, okay, that

825
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: was my issue. Very unhappy with the event.

826
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: So we go around and I remember the basics of

827
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: what I shared. It was from Isaiah. I said, I

828
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: want you to know, first of all, we love you,

829
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: we're praying for you.

830
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: And we believe your Bible. We believe your Bible. You

831
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: don't believe your Bible.

832
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started quoting Isaiah fifty three and I said,

833
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: who else died for your sins and rose from the dead?

834
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: Who?

835
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: And I just began going through the prophecies of Isaiah,

836
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: which is the irrefutable proof that Jesus is the Messiah.

837
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: I mean all the way down to the fact that

838
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: we can prove that the oldest copy that we have

839
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: is hundreds of years before Jesus arrives, It wasn't changed,

840
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: and Jesus is the Messiah.

841
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: It's still on display. It's amazing. Yeah. So all that

842
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: to say that, So I told him.

843
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: That I believe your Bible and it's tall true, and

844
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: I believe all the prophets. And I remember as I

845
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: was gospeling some woman, I didn't turn because I didn't

846
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: want to point her out because I heard a female

847
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: voice from this side. And as I was preaching from

848
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: Isaiah fifty three and then Javagate to twenty of officers

849
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 2: of the idf unbelievable story, I remember hers.

850
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: I remember her. I heard this under her breath. Yes,

851
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: shoe ahmasiuk. And then I said, that's right, yeshoe ahamashiak,

852
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: which is Hebrew for Jesus the Messiah. Yeah, that's right.

853
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: And then things start to get a little fall apart

854
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: up this point, and we give them, give them.

855
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Uh. I can't tell you what.

856
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: We give them pins and other things because I think

857
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: the other things are illegal.

858
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: So we give them pins and we pray for them,

859
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: and then we leave. But now you can tell the

860
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: rest of okay. So when you said I want to

861
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: tell them about Jesus, and she was like, you know,

862
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: turned her head. She said, yes, there was another lady

863
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: the civilian. There was like some kind of administrator and

864
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: some kind of superior in this situation. She was sort

865
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: of running. She was more like the government of the street.

866
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: And she was like, you cannot tell you no religion

867
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: could be talked about, and you started. I turned to

868
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: her and I was like, so where are you from?

869
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: That's right. You totally engaged her. And she was like

870
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: kind of looking around, and she was like, I am

871
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: from the North. And I was like, tell me about what.

872
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: I just came from the North. So I'm from Texas.

873
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: You know, we have these very just don't look at

874
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: that looking around, like looking around my face, and you know,

875
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: I was thinking, hurry up, Travis, telling the god. I

876
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: remember that. That's right. You shielded me so I could

877
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: have that window. And you were just finished and she

878
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: could say, hey, s you cannot say these things. You

879
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: cannot say these and you're like, oh, yes, ma'am, we

880
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: won't say anything else. There's another moment on that trip. No,

881
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: it was the second trip we took to Israel that

882
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: there was there's a thousand stories. Is this the cucumbers?

883
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: It's not the cucumbers. That's an incredible story too. Maybe

884
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: we should tell that also, well, you and I could

885
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: have a podcast every day of the week and for

886
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: a year and probably still not have enough content or

887
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: still cover too much content. But there was there was

888
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: a moment maybe you're not even thinking of. We found

889
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: up in the north. There were churches there and they

890
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: were almost all bad. So it's fair to say bad

891
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: meaning I was not sure that their pastors were saved

892
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So we go to visit one of these churches.

893
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: We're looking. We're hunting for our believers that are leaders.

894
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: That's what you could say that right in a nutshell,

895
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: we're hunting for We're looking. We're looking for young men.

896
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: We want to help them. We want we want someone

897
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: that could be that we could pull aside and say, hey,

898
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: we could provide training, We want to support you and

899
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: your church. We didn't find us, which is unfortunate. So

900
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: we had to go to the ground level, which is fine,

901
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: but that's what yea.

902
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: So couldn't find any leaders in that position, but we

903
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: did find believers, that's.

904
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: Right, So we had to start at the believer level.

905
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: But regardless, we are at one of these church leaders

906
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: will call him a pastor with a very loose term

907
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: as a very loose term. We're at his house with

908
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: several of his co leaders. I don't dare want to

909
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: say elder in this scenario, but they are in the

910
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: Christian side of the faith. They're not Jewish, they're not Muslim,

911
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: They're they're proclaiming that they're Christians. They have a regular church,

912
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: they have a church service, and we go there and

913
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: they are We're having every house we'd go into, we

914
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: would usually have some kind of coffee, like Arabic coffee.

915
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Were these people Arabic or were they they're Arabic. They're Arabic, Yes,

916
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: so they would have Arabic coffee, and so if you

917
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: cook cookies and sweets things like that. We're sitting around,

918
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: it's hot, you know, the windows are open, and these

919
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: guys are just telling us how awesome they are, Yes,

920
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: how awesome the church is.

921
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: They're going to plant multiple sites to get multiple countries.

922
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, were so good, you know, just we

923
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 3: have so many conversions, and you know, all the blow

924
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 3: we're going to build a bigger building.

925
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: And we had been a long day, you know, we

926
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: had walked a lot, our feet were tired. We're hearing

927
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: this guy tell these Americans, how awesome his church was.

928
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: Maybe so we could give them money or something, which

929
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: we weren't there to do that anyway with these guys,

930
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: but but maybe they think Westerners and you're silent, you're

931
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: not saying a thing. And I'm like, Travis is either

932
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: about to fall asleep, literally sitting in his chair taking

933
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: I was praying. I really wanted a word from the Lord. Yeah,

934
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: and I but then I thought, most likely he's up

935
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: to something. And he's praying not not about you know,

936
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily for this man. But but Travis is more

937
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: more so praying for a word in the money. You

938
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: want to say, why why are we here? God? You

939
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: know that, what are we here for? And then you go,

940
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: can I can I say something? Can I excuse me? Guys?

941
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Can I say something? And by the way, we have

942
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: a translator. They're speaking in Arabic, but they actually they

943
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: also knew English, and there's a translator, and and Travis says,

944
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: they were like, yes, yes, yes, speak speak. He said,

945
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: will you translate this? And they're like, we could speak

946
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: English very well, sir, And you go, I'm not talking

947
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: about can you translate it into English? Can you trans

948
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: into Arabic? And they're like, what's this guy talking about?

949
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: And that was mainly because I didn't think the person

950
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: that you're about to refer to English.

951
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Were right about that. So I'm like on the edge

952
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: of my seat, like what Because I know Travis maan,

953
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's about to be funny whatever. This is

954
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: gonna be good.

955
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: You know.

956
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: I've like, I've been in a lot of countries at

957
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: this one, like a lot of really sketchy situations with you.

958
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, this is gonna be good. He

959
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: has the floor you want to? I think you should

960
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: tell the story what happened next? No, no, I like

961
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: your storytelling, he said. Travis says, do you know who

962
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: Jesus says is the greatest to his disciples? And they're

963
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: like and I'm thinking, oh, it's good because they're talking

964
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: about how great they are. Yeah, they're battling with who's

965
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: the best in the room. And Travis says, the one

966
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: who serves? Is that what you said? What are the

967
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: one who serves? And he goes, who in this room

968
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: do you think is the greatest? Right? All right? A sudden,

969
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: the sweet little old woman carrying a tray.

970
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: Feeding all of us refreshments. The entire time, all these

971
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: important people are sitting on these couches drinking their stuff.

972
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: She just making sure everything's okay for everyone here.

973
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: And when that gets translated back in Arabic, who do

974
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: you think is the greatest here? She stops, puts her

975
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: head DOWNE Travis looks right at her. Thank you for

976
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: loving us, for serving us. She started weeping. She was broken.

977
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: She broke and weeped. We come to find out it

978
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: was her. She had been on her knees every day

979
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: for these men, for the church, for the community, for

980
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: the families. It was her. She held the church together.

981
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: She was holding it together. It was by her prayers.

982
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: She was the one that was that was that was

983
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: broken and had a delight for the Lord. And yet

984
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: she was the one you called it out perfectly. That

985
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: was pretty amazing. They were her voice, her weeping. She

986
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: spoke no English, and I a moment for me. The

987
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: rest of them looked like they had just swallowed a slug. Yes,

988
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: that's true, and then they quickly were like, we got

989
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: to kind of it's time to go.

990
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: I got some important ministry to do. But I was

991
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: able to pray with her, yes, which was really special.

992
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, and we come to find out they, you know,

993
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 2: that culture, they didn't care about her. No, culture doesn't

994
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: really elevate women.

995
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. Uh, we mentioned it. We got to

996
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: say the cucumber story. You said, okay, yeah, just so

997
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: let me tell you just the background. You know it.

998
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: But for everybody who's listening, the background to the Gaza

999
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: Lebanon Iran crisis. And at one point Israel was fighting

1000
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: on seven fronts, which is pretty crazy.

1001
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: Just think about that.

1002
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: And what's happened is there's no tourism, and everybody in

1003
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: Israel lives off a tourism, everybody in some ways tied

1004
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: to tourism, and so their economy has been utterly crushed.

1005
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: I would probably relate it to the Great Depression of

1006
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: the US.

1007
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: It's that bad.

1008
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: Nobody you don't hear about it. Nobody's talking about it.

1009
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: But when you have no income for the country, everybody suffers,

1010
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: and including the people who are in the West Bank,

1011
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: the Palestinians, if you will, A lot of them, A

1012
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: number of them, was it one hundred thousand or some

1013
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: really a large number have work visas and so this

1014
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: person gets a work visa in the family, they end

1015
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: up coming over to work in Israel proper.

1016
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: They make a good wage.

1017
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: They bring it back and they support three or four

1018
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: or five families one worker, because you make so much

1019
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: better money in Israel proper. Yes, they were all when

1020
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: the war started, all visas were dropped. You couldn't so

1021
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: nobody could leave the West Bank to work. Everybody lost

1022
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: their job, so there's no income. I gotta be careful.

1023
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to make the Palestinian authority hate my guts,

1024
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 2: but I'll just say that the Israeli government is giving

1025
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: a stipend, it's a survival stipend to their people. Nobody's

1026
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: doing well, but they're living. They have food, that's probably.

1027
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: They have food.

1028
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: They have electricity. The other side not so much zero

1029
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 2: in fact, And so the people inside the West Bank

1030
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: terrible starvation.

1031
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's horrible. They're starving. We saw it.

1032
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: And they're literally could take a rock and throw it

1033
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: over the guard station and hit dirt that if they

1034
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: were there, they'd have enough to eat.

1035
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: It is so bad.

1036
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: Anyway, So we're in that area and we're just praying

1037
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 2: with people, and that's about all I'm gonna talk about,

1038
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: praying with people and loving on people. And we're with

1039
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: this woman who is living with her mom and raising

1040
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: her son. No men, we saw that a lot, no

1041
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: men involved in the families. Just women surviving in groups,

1042
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: groups of women surviving in huddles. And we're praying for her.

1043
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: And I just say, you know, I'm just trying to

1044
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: assess is it as bad as I think it is?

1045
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Because you know, they they're.

1046
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: Very stoic, very stoic, don't want to show, don't want

1047
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: to be ashamed.

1048
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they're offering us food. You know, well water.

1049
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: I think you drank some of that one. That's probably

1050
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: why you got sick.

1051
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: But anyways, they're offering us that, and we're sitting and

1052
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: talking and praying and hearing their stories. And I said, well,

1053
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, I think I said, do you have enough

1054
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: to eat? And she's looking at me, you remember she's

1055
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: looking and she goes just barely wiggles her head because

1056
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to say we're hungry.

1057
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: It's shameful.

1058
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 2: She just kind of wiggles her head slightly. I said,

1059
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: do you mind if I look? Now, that is very American.

1060
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: Nobody in accept a European, but especially in American.

1061
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: It's going to be.

1062
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: As uncaring as that, but I did it for a

1063
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: reason and it had great benefit.

1064
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: But she can't say no. They're in their culture. She

1065
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: can't say no.

1066
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: So I want to go look because I'm hearing the

1067
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: suffering is really bad, and I haven't actually seen their kitchens.

1068
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: So we end up going into the I end up

1069
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: going into the kitchen and I think you came with

1070
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: the camera.

1071
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Speaker 1: I was with you, you were running the camera. I'm like,

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00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: let's look, which I don't think it ever made anything

1073
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: we put out, but.

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00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, because it would. We can't uncover her.

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00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: So we opened up the cupboards and there's seasonings, just seasonings,

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, spices, that's it. We opened the refrigerator and

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Speaker 2: you want to tell them what we saw?

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00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 1: Just cucumbers that they had grown in their front yard.

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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: Nothing but cucumbers. There wasn't another item in the fridge

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00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: but cucumbers. And I asked, and that's all they've been

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00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: eating for months. Months, They've been living on cucumbers and

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Speaker 2: spices for months.

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: That was their food. Oh my goodness. I was so broken.

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00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: And then we've met a family that same day, little

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00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: children about this about the age of Maverick and in

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00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: fact one was the age of Maverick. And we asked them.

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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: It was a father and a mother, and we asked him,

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00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: when's the last time you had meet When was the

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00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: last time you had meat? And they said, you said

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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: a day, a week, week. You're kind of going to listen.

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00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: They're going no, no, shaking their head. And it got

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: to like seven eight months, no meat in eight months,

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00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: and we had beef jerky in our bags. Oh yeah,

1094
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: right here here, here's some beef jerky. Heave gave them,

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00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, several things, and and and you said, I

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: want you to gather around your table tonight with this meat.

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00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: Tell them what you said. That was another moment. It

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00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: was another Travis moment.

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00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 2: I just wanted them to thank God for it. And I, yeah,

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: you remember it better than I do.

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00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: I think you said something like, gather on the table

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00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: and you tell your children, Oh, Jesus provided Jesus provided

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00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: meat for you gather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gather around your table and you feed the

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: people at your table, and you use this meat, and

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00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: you say, you tell your children. You look at your

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00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: children and you tell them Jesus gave us this meat.

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00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: And if and if you have any leftover, bring your

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00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: neighbors in here and give them the rest of it. Yeah.

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00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: Well I and I said make me a promise, will

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00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: you do that? And he said I will.

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00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: He said I will, and I know he did because

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00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: the way he looked at it, I will. I was

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00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: a little afraid not to. Oh will. Yeah, that was

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00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: That was a beautiful moment. There was so many moments

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00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: in Israel. We've been talking an hour. We could probably

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00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: talk six hours. Has it been an hour?

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00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: Yes, you love that, But we haven't even touched on

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00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: anything yet.

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Speaker 1: Well, we need we just it's evident we need to

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00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: do this again. But I want everyone to know about

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: looking up for him, so that in the let's see,

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01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: if I could say this the right way, in the

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01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: time that you realized you were uncovered and that you're

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: you couldn't hide as as the covert the guy that

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01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: you were before. So we went the other direction. You

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01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: went the other direction and said, you know what, let's

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01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: be public. I have a lot of devotions I've written

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01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: and I continue. You continue to write them, and I'll

1130
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: just speak them on my phone and put them on

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01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: social media and it.

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01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: I never had a Facebook account, I've never had Instagram,

1133
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: I've never had a social media account.

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01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: Ever rightly, so, yeah, ever, but but people heard truth

1135
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: and they were hungry for it, and they and your

1136
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: account grew and grew and drew it until I reached out.

1137
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you know, this is growing at

1138
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: a level that's likeficant unusual unusual, And you're like, we

1139
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what that means.

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01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Do you remember when Ever had to teach me how

1141
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: to make a reel? I'm like, man, this is terrible,

1142
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: I really it cuts me off. And then you're like,

1143
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: you know you don't have so I would go live.

1144
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: I'd always go live because I wanted to post something

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01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: more than ninety seconds, and so everything was live. Every

1146
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: one of them was live. You're like, you don't have

1147
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: to do live every time. You could just make a

1148
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: post and that can be like sixty minutes.

1149
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: What. Yeah, I don't have to go live. So go

1150
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: follow looking up for the number four him, him, looking

1151
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: up number four him, and you will see Travis. Who's

1152
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: I could say his name now, and you'll give a

1153
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: lot of devotions. You'll answer questions we do.

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01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: A Thursday night live Bible answer.

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and you also will give updates on Occasionally, where

1156
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: you're going, or at least that you're going to be somewhere,

1157
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: depends on you, and you'll have praier re quest for that.

1158
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: What you can do is just go follow and if

1159
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: you follow Travis, you will at least see him, and

1160
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: you'll hear the Bible. You'll hear the Bible. You'll see

1161
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: it a beautiful ranch. And yes, you do get some.

1162
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: Updates on something is happening, very significant. Please be in prayer.

1163
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: Those updates do come out to everybody, but you don't

1164
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: know where or when or who or why, because how

1165
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: in the world could you do it? And so yeah,

1166
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's really its attention and it's a sadness.

1167
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 2: But but I'll say this, and you said this early

1168
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: on when we talked about the whole oh man, just

1169
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: give it to him.

1170
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: God touches people's hearts. So I don't. I don't.

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01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll like to tell you about this. You probably

1172
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: don't know this, but the second trip, you know, we

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01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: there was some stuff that was done in Israel. Yeah,

1174
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 2: somebody based on Jost of the instagrams. I didn't even

1175
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: know it because they sent it to a different organization.

1176
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: Somehow they connected me to a different organization. They sent

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01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: a very large gift. I didn't even know it because

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have anything to do with those.

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: That you can't it would be corrupting to you. Yeah,

1180
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: so I didn't know that.

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01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: But we by faith were going in to take care

1182
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: of some things, to help some people, some people we love,

1183
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: some Christians, to bless them. And it was a significant amount.

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01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it until this is really funny,

1185
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: until like seven months later, I get a direct message

1186
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: from this guy.

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01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy.

1188
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: It's just some guy, all right, And he's like, did

1189
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: you ever get my gift?

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01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, when did you send it?

1191
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: What was it? You know?

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01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: So this is now I look really flaky or like

1193
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't even have a clue, right because it was

1194
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: a significant amount.

1195
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I don't We're just send it conversations.

1196
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe how did you get there? And

1197
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: he told me and.

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: So and then he direct messaged me it was for

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01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: this much, and I fell out of my chair. I'm like, uh,

1200
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: I'll go look I got I don't know. I still

1201
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: told him I don't know.

1202
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: I go look I don't know.

1203
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: And I contacted the people who were our accountants and said,

1204
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: did this something like this come in And they're like, yeah,

1205
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: but it was anonymous, it's got no name attached.

1206
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: It comes from nowhere. I'm like, oh, oh my goodness.

1207
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: So all that I want to want to say was

1208
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: there was no plea for money. There was there was nothing.

1209
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: There was a guy who was watching this, and he

1210
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: was he was watching the he's watching the instavotions. He said,

1211
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: that's real. The Lord, Yeah, that's real. He didn't send it,

1212
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: by the way, he didn't send it to the social media,

1213
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: didn't send it to looking up for him. He sent

1214
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: it a different route.

1215
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: And I was just stunned.

1216
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: And it was one of those It was one of

1217
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: those things like you had said, little take care of this, Yeah,

1218
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: the little take care of this.

1219
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: Just don't worry about it. Just don't even worry about it.

1220
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: Just be faithful. Put the word out there. And let

1221
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: me just say, and I'll say this as vague as

1222
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: I can, people didn't only eat cucumbers for a little

1223
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: bit of time after that. Yeah, because of that, because

1224
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: that guy made I'm sure there was more than cucumbers. Yes,

1225
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: there was more than going around it. We made that trip.

1226
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: It was fantastic and I and it was just because

1227
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: of this little social media thing that I'm looking up

1228
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, just between me and you, I know,

1229
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: we've got to wrap this up because you got to

1230
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: somehow make this fit into a podcast.

1231
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: I am not for social media.

1232
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: In fact, my kids all had a problem when I

1233
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: started social media. I had a problem when I started.

1234
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: I felt like I was unclean.

1235
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think people by now after this hour,

1236
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: are not thinking anything less of you for doing that.

1237
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: I was thinking I was. But my kids they all

1238
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: sat me down. They literally had those we need talk, Dad,

1239
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: we need talk.

1240
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: You have Facebook, and I just want to know, are

1241
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: you what's going on? And how did you come to

1242
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: that conclusion and and just it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.

1243
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: And I hope they're listening. Your sons that I have

1244
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: traveled separately in different countries apart from each other and

1245
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: different states of the US. That's true. Yeah, I love

1246
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: those love those brothers so much. I love you, man,

1247
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: thank you. I love you. Fact. I mean, you're here

1248
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: for crazy circumstances which we don't have to get in.

1249
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: But you're here at my house, and I I just

1250
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: appreciate you and love you. And I'm still that coin

1251
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: in your pocket, you know.

1252
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still that oh yeah, yeah, you got a

1253
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: little string on you so I can put you in

1254
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: and then you and use you again.

1255
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well, thank you man, appreciate you. Thanks

1256
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all

1257
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: of you. Guys. You could help me out by rating

1258
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,440
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1259
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: this channel. Hit that little like button and notification spell

1260
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,720
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