1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from house Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast on Josh Clark. 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: There's Charles W Chuck Bryant and this stuff you didn't 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: know the podcast that's right. This is part of our 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: ongoing death Suite, which is sweet. Yeah, we've covered death 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot because death is multi faceted. Sure you know. 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: This reminded me of the I guess we covered green 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: burial not in its own podcast, but in like different 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: ways to what to do with the dead Bonnie. There 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: you go, That's what I thought it was into. But 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm surprised we didn't do a podcast dedicated just to that. 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Maybe we should. Yeah, I looked up because I'm interested 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: in that for myself. And uh, there are some lovely 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: places right outside Atlanta to be buried greenly where you 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: can just be wrapped in a shroud and buried in 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: the field, which ripped to death by coyotes left in 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the field that they don't leave you enough. No, well 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: they bury you in a shallow grave for the coyotes 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: to come get you. Now. They said they don't have 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: a problem with that. But I'm not one of those 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: people that uh cares about that. Yeah, like about what 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: happens to your body, Like I would do a sky burial. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: That wouldn't bother me for vultures to pick me apart. 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Like use the body if it would feed an animal? Great, 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: why not donated to science? Yeah, maybe I'll do that. 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm not precious about that my body after death. I'm 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: not precious about my body in life. Why start then? Exactly? Yeah, 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that's funny. Yeah. So anyway, well a shroud, a shroud 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: does kind of technically count as a coffin. Chuck, Yeah, 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: back in the day if you didn't have a lot 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: of money, right, um, or if you're into being picked 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: apart by coyotes. Um. But the the whole point of 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: a coffin or what constitutes a coffin is it provides 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: a barrier between the body and the ground. And technically 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: a shroud does that. It's a really really poor coffin. 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: But that it's the whole point. It's that the body 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: is encapsulated in something that just dropping a body into 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: a grave is um undignified. You might say, even cremating 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: a body without some form or fashion of a coffin 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: is considered undignified. And you'll be hard pressed to find 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: a crematorium that will let you just put your loved 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: one on the conveyor belt and let them just kind 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: of flop lifelessly toward the flames. I don't think they 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: flop well, I mean, if they're jostle, they're gonna flop, okay, 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: especially after rigors um the coffin, the word coffin. We're 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: not gonna do any Merriam Webster stuff, because that's who 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: would start an article like that or do it six 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: times in an article. But we will say we like 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: to get root words. And of course Greek and Latin 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: are involved here with the Greek cofinos in Latin cofee nuts. 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: They're always like, oh yeah, right, I'll change that cato 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: a c and that otto a you remember, the Greeks 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: happen exactly. So that's where the word coffin came from. Um. 54 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: But here in the United States we generally referred to 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: that vessel as a casket, whereas in places like England 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: and Australia I'm sorry, Great Britain and Australia they might 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: say coffin, even though a lot of people here think 58 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: that's like a word you shouldn't use. Well, yeah, their 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: casket still means a place to like keep your valuables right, 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: your bubbles right. Yeah. Here in the US, if you 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: go to a funeral directorium also called a funeral home, 62 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: you're going to find that they'd never use the word coffin. No, 63 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: and you know it's pretty subtle, but the language is definitely. 64 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: They don't say, uh, we'd love to pick out for you, 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: to pick out a coffin for your husband's dead body, um, 66 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: and then we'll dig a grave over there and put 67 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: it in the ground. They will say things like, we 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: would like you to pick out a casket for your 69 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: husband and from our display area, from the display area, 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: and we will take you there in the casket coach, 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: not a hearse and uh, and place him in internment 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: space which is opened, and then we'll close afterward. Rather 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: than filling or digging the grapes, they don't say where 74 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: it's like digging and ground isn't anything that that brings 75 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: to mind. Um, the guy from phantasm does the funeral 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 1: industry avoids those words. Yeah, And of course we've ruined 77 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: six feet under and the Fisher and Sons the boys, 78 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: such a great show. Michael always did, such a great 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: job of you know, being the proper funeral director and 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: using all the all the words that you should use, 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: like casket. He's good at it, and then he turned 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: into a serial killer. No, well yeah, um, so there 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: actually is a distinction beyond where you live with the 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: word casket in coffin. There's a slight difference. Shape. Yeah, 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: it's it's all. It's basically shape. A casket is a 86 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: long rectangle and the top is usually split, so you 87 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: can know that's a coffin. That's a casket. Oh yeah, 88 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: that's a casket. Coffin is the hexagonal, right, a hexagonal box. Yeah, 89 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: and that you know, back in the day you had 90 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: the old pine box. Actually a lot of those were 91 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: just rectangular. Um, but somewhere you know, had that familiar 92 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: sort of keyhole shape. Well back in the day, in 93 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, the person who was responsible for carrying 94 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: out your funeral services and building your coffin was usually 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: the local carpenter, and he undertook your funeral service, hence 96 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: the word undertaker from what I understand, Um, but it 97 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: was usually somebody who built wagons and kitchens and whatever. 98 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: They also built coffins too, and they built him the suit. 99 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: That sounded to me like our first casket fact. Well done, Chuck, Wow, Yeah, 100 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: thank you Jerry for going the extra mile there. And uh, 101 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: if you like that, you're going to love this episode 102 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: because this place is lousy with casket facts. Yeah, we 103 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: won't play the sound effect on this one. But I 104 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: thought another interesting fact, because you know, I like origins 105 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: of phrases and things. If someone casts the pall over 106 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: a room, Paul was actually a dark cloth that they 107 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: would put over the casket too. I guess cover you know, 108 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: block out the bad juju of having the dead body 109 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: in there, right, so you would cast a pall over 110 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: the casket. Yeah, or if you're me, you cast a 111 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: pall over any room you enter. That's fun, no fun anymore? Everybody? 112 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Can we can we talk a little bit about the 113 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: funeral industry for a second. About the casket industry has 114 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: to say specifically, there's still some furniture companies that make 115 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: caskets on the side, like Lazy Boy. Yeah. I don't 116 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: know if Lazy Boy doesn't, but there's they represent a 117 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: very small shape of the caskets ultimate Lazy Boy, you 118 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: know you're You're forever chair exactly. Well, they actually have 119 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: caskets for those people. It's called um, goliath caskets, oversized caskets, 120 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: order oversized caskets. Calm huh. Anyway, of course there's someone 121 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: that does that because that's a common thing. You know, 122 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: caskets aren't you know some people of of girth. That's 123 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing now when you can't fit in your casket, right, 124 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: And I went and looked, and these are very dignified 125 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: caskets there for the larger person. Um uh wow Um. 126 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: There's also uh okay, so when the largest casket makers. 127 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Batesville originally started out as a furniture company. So there's 128 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: like this whole origin of yeah, I'll build your chair 129 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: and I'll build your coffin for your uncle too. That 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: makes sense. It's carpentry. And then um, that's kind of 131 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: the way it went. There was some some groups that 132 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: that started to consolidate and just make caskets around the 133 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: late the turn of the twentieth century the beginning of 134 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: the twentieth century, and you know, that was fine. They 135 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: kind of created the industry. And then it was like 136 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: the fifties after the Korean War, when metal caskets became 137 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: like all our age. Yeah, because that was mad looking 138 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and that was popular at the time it was. And 139 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: you'll also find in the funeral industry it was easy 140 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: to um subtly exploit the grieving out of their money. Um, 141 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: there was that it was very cheap to mass produce 142 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: metal caskets and so they were sold, sold, sold. There 143 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: was a huge profit margin with them, and I think 144 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: by um the seventies, half of all caskets were um 145 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: we're metal. Yeah, Well, because what better way to protect 146 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: your loved one from the elements and the harsh afterlife 147 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: that they may encounter than with a good old solid 148 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: metal in casing. Yes exactly, um, which also happens to 149 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: be I have greater profit margins and it's cheaper to produce, 150 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: so it is it's cheaper to mass produced the other 151 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: aspect of a metal coffin. In the rise of the 152 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: metal coffin, it changed the casket making industry, UM because 153 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: it's really really expensive to get into metal coffin making. 154 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: Apparently cost about a million dollars just for the dies 155 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: to make a standard metal coffin just for the dies alone. 156 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: So this kind of consolidated industry down to a fewer 157 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: and fewer companies that were making metal caskets, UM, so 158 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: it became a real industry at that point. UM. And 159 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: then ultimately the casket industry started to suffer and decline 160 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: thanks to advances in medicine. There were fewer deaths, so 161 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: their profits dropped or the revenue drop. And then starting 162 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: in the eighties, people said, you know what, maybe cremation 163 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: isn't so bad, and so in I think of people 164 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: opted for cremation, and then by two thousand, um, I think, no, 165 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, it's like yeah, and every time somebody 166 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: gets cremated, the coffin industry dies a little bit. Yeah, 167 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: although you know, um, like you said, you can um 168 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: still have a casket to be cremated in and we 169 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: can over this in the Cremation podcast. Yeah, well you 170 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: have to, like you can't find somebody who will just 171 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: let your but that can be it's super cheap, like 172 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: sometimes it's even cardboard. Well it's supposed to because it's 173 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: got to burn. Yeah, but I mean at the very 174 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: least would uh will also burn. But you can you 175 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: can spend a little bit more money, or you can 176 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: get a temporary encasing and outer encasing that is more 177 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: attractive to show the family and then when push comes 178 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: to shove, they shove that. They remove the outer casket 179 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: and shove you. And it's like a rental casket just 180 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: for the service. Yeah, and you can actually rent caskets period, 181 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: like even if you aren't being cremated, just for a 182 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: more showy experience and then they'll you know, then you 183 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: get the pine box treatment, right because nobody will loves you. Yeah, 184 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: it's expensive, man. People. A lot of people don't have 185 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: the money to pay for a big funeral, and it's 186 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people really believe in that kind of thing. 187 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: It's really sad for them, you know. It is. Luckily 188 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: there's such a thing as Walmart and Costco. Both of 189 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: them sell caskets. Walmart has a casket for eleven one thousand, 190 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: it's the Lady of Our Lady of guadaloup Um casket model. Uh. 191 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: And then Costco Yeah okay, and then Costco has the 192 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: same same model for a hundred bucks more. Really. Yeah, 193 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: I was surprised that it's not exactly the same. But 194 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: it's nice to see that the big box retailers aren't 195 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: price fixing coffins. Yeah, it's great to see Walmart selling coffins. 196 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: But I mean it's like that you if you need 197 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: a coffin, and they're attractive looking coffins. I think they're fiberglass. 198 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever laid down in a coffin? Probably not, 199 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't either. I would just to see 200 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: what it felt like. They look comfy. Did you see 201 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: the thing about the six ft under club in San Francisco? 202 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: There is a club where it's like, hey, you and 203 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: you're UM partner, life part swinging partner, partner, what your 204 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: sex partner. Let's just call it what it is. UM 205 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: can write, can come lay down in our coffin and 206 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: we'll bury you and you guys can do it, and 207 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: we are going to watch you on a night vision 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: webcamp that's going to be projected on the walls of 209 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: the club above. Where's the San Francisco San Francisco six 210 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: Under Club and you can email in reserves space in 211 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: their coffin. Huh? Is there? I mean, is there any 212 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: room in the coffin that's pretty I would imagine it 213 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: would have to be a larger, but maybe a goliath 214 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: coffin double one. Huh. Well, I will never do that, 215 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: but it's interesting to know what's out there. It is 216 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: out there, Sisco options. Let's talk about the anatomy of 217 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: a coffin, Chuckers, Well, the you know, the most important thing, 218 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: of course, is that it is a barrier too, from 219 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: the body to the you know, the elements. No one, 220 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Actually I don't care, like I already said, but most people, 221 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: most normal people, I don't want to think about their 222 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: loved ones bodies like decaying and being eaten by you know, 223 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: being worm dirt. But one thing they cannot tell you 224 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: is that it's illegal to say that we have a 225 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: casket that will permanently seal the body, Like it's against 226 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: the law to claim any sort of permanence. Um, even 227 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: if it's one of these new gasket coffins. What are 228 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: those called. Um, it's called the protective coffin, Yeah, which 229 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: actually has a rubber gasket so it feels much tighter. 230 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: But they still legally can't say like it will protect 231 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: them forever, right, because it will protect them from the elements. 232 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: But there is such a thing as decay, like your 233 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: your body is going to decay and nothingness. And apparently, 234 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I guess the funeral industry was selling coffins based on 235 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: the idea that the body was going to survive forever 236 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: and with this impermeable seal that the protective coffins had, 237 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't letting anything in, but it also 238 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: wasn't letting anything out, which is a problem. And in 239 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: an airtight um environment, anaerobic bacteria gets to work and 240 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: as they start putrefying the flesh, they expel methane gas 241 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: as a by product. And there's a thing called exploding 242 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: coffin syndrome which was most um apparent in mausoleums, where 243 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: a coffin would just blow up, and sometimes they would 244 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: blow up so much that it would blow the mausoleum 245 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: door open, like a huge methane explosion from the gas 246 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: built up from the decaying corps in this protective coffin. 247 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: So now they have ones that that don't let anything in, 248 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: but they burp gas out. They're called burping coffins, which 249 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: is a great name for a coffin. So but so 250 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: is exploding casket syndrome. Boy, could you imagine being a 251 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: cemetery worker and seeing a mausoleum door explode wide? Yeah, 252 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: you're just like I seen it all. I would quit 253 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: my job that day. Um, So it depends on where 254 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: you are in the world what you're gonna get with 255 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: your with your coffin and with regulations, you know, and 256 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: less developed countries obviously they're less regulated. Um, you could 257 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: still be wrapped in a shroud in some parts of 258 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: the world. Right here in the US, um, in the West. 259 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: You they're basically public health regulations, which is why that 260 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: that place for the green burial is designated a green 261 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: burial place. Yeah, so I'm sure you the body won't 262 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: come in contact with the groundwater, I think is what 263 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to keep from happening. Yeah, that was in 264 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: the thank you. Yeah. So, um, that's pretty much the 265 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: whole public health regulation, and it's gotten to the point 266 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: where most most people are buried with cement and casement 267 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: around them, right, Oh is that what they do these days? 268 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, I think I knew that. Actually, 269 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: it's so funny, like we're we're all still six year 270 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: old at our courts, like, dude, dead body cross, I 271 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: can't let they get in the water. Yeah, that stuffing 272 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: better me? Do you cant? Sadies? No not. I wouldn't 273 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: want to drink a dead body now, but seeing one, 274 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean I'm the guy who poked a head floating 275 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: in a bucket, you know. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about 276 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: that story. I didn't poke it, but I mentally poked it. 277 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: It didn't me. Uh. If you are in the Western world, 278 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be dealing with wood or metal or fiberglass. 279 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: If you are live out in the desert, they may 280 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: use things like local products like clay or stone, which 281 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: is kind of interesting. I guess we got a lot 282 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: of wood here in the United States though, particle board. Yeah, 283 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: and like we mentioned the sad, sad cardboard cremation vessel, right, which, again, 284 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: if you're being you probably don't care. Yeah. I was 285 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: all set for cremation, and then I thought, I don't know, 286 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: is there anything that's in the green burial seems like 287 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: a good option. Sure, just become one with the dirt maybe, 288 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: but I like the idea being scattered as well, or 289 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: again helping somebody helping other people. Yeah, but they'll still 290 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: like if you don't your body to science, did they 291 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: not give you any sort of like, no, you can't 292 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: be embalmed or anything. I guess you probably could if like, 293 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: say you're going to the body farm, you wouldn't be 294 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: able to be involved. And I'm sure there's like memorial services, 295 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't as I understand it. That's 296 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: another thing that's eating into the casket industry profits is 297 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: body donation. Hey man, I think this is a perfect 298 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: time to have a message break from our sponsor, which 299 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: means they're jingle all right, So I think this is 300 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: actually a great time for a second gasket. Fact, I 301 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: like these already. Alright back in the day, in the 302 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: early nineteenth century, that was sort of a they called 303 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: it graves body snatching period, and people were into snatching 304 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: up bodies, digging up graves, exhuming people, if you will, 305 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: and basically selling bodies for money for medical research. It 306 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: was a way to make a buck or doing research 307 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: on your own. Medical College of Georgia was they found 308 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: dozens of skeletons. I was like, I don't think dozens 309 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: of skeletons of um people who were dismembered, and they 310 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: figured out that all of them had been and from graves. 311 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: Remember that. Of course, that wasn't in the early nineteenth century, 312 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: was it. It was in the nineteenth century. It so 313 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: they developed something well, various things to you know, protect 314 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: bodies like locked mausoleums and vaults. And then something I 315 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: think it's gonna net called the mort safe, which is 316 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: basically an iron cage put over the coffin. It's like 317 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: sunk into concrete. It's like what people used to protect 318 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: their air conditioners today. Yeah exactly, but over like a grave. 319 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: So that that was a mort safe and that kept 320 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: people out. They had guards sometimes stats guards. I think 321 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: then the caretaker doubles as a guard, but they had 322 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: people who they hired as guards and protect a specific grave. 323 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: I think if you had enough dough, you could have like, um, 324 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: you know the mausoleum with a guard. That's pretty cool. 325 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's if you're rich and wealthy. Um. 326 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: There are also if you weren't wealthy, other ways to 327 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: to thwart grave robbers, just to put heavy planks um 328 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: to backfill the grave with rocks instead of dirt, which 329 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: might not have kept somebody out, but they would have 330 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: made quite a bit of noise digging you up. And 331 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, have you ever been to um Oakland Cemetery. Yeah? 332 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I go all the time, well not all the time, 333 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: but I go. It is beautiful all the times. A year. Yeah, 334 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: you mean, and I went and just did like this, 335 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: just walked around like there's some there's some ausoleums there 336 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: that like there's no way you could have gotten into. Yeah. 337 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: For those uh people that haven't been to Atlanta, that 338 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: is what are probably oldest in like cemetery. It is 339 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: our Parade de Lache. Yes, I've been to that one 340 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: to actually the one in Paris. What parade is it? 341 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: The one with Jim Morrison. Yeah, of course, and uh, 342 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: I think Oscar Wilde is there and Chopin, but you know, 343 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: Morrison's the one that you go by and there's like 344 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: joints on the ground and like tabs of acid and stuff. 345 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: And then you always like the random guy kind of 346 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: hanging out like waiting for everyone to turn their back. 347 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: A bunch of dirty hippies basically uh in Ghana and 348 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: other parts of Africa. It is kind of cool because 349 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: they will They have a very um, sort of a 350 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: joyous way of celebrating death with their bright colored coffins 351 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: and even odd shapes that would pay honor to what 352 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: this person loved in life. Um. I saw one that 353 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: was like a giant shoe and this guy this uh, 354 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: this Aprican dude was just like, you know, it must 355 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: have been as relative and it was just so proud 356 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: to show that they were bearing him in a giant shoe. 357 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: So it's like it's like to the dead in Ghana 358 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: what a pinionta is to like a kid in Mexico. Really, yeah, 359 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: they have like pinionas that are like shape for their 360 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: different specific Yeah, there was just a b there's like 361 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: lets of hello kiddies and like really yeah, yeah, there's 362 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: there's some great pinontas out there. Um. And then the 363 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: other example they gave in here is like if it 364 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: was a businessman, he might be buried in something that 365 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: resembled his luxury car. Or a fisherman, it might be 366 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: a fish shaped the fish finally got him back. He's 367 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: in the belly of it. So chuck, you you mentioned 368 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: things that coffins may be made out of. You mentioned 369 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: like wood, fiberglass, um, oak, hardy woods, bronze is still 370 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: used on occasion, yeah sure, um. And that's the shell 371 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: of the coffin yeah, um. And then the inside you'll 372 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: find the lining, usually some sort of rich fabric like 373 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: tafida or velvet or something that looks like that. Maybe 374 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: volure if if they like juicy clothes that kind of thing, 375 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: silk maybe, Yeah, and it's stuffed with batting to keep 376 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: the corpse nice and comfortable. And uh, that's pretty much it. 377 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: You've got hardware on the outside and that's a casket. Yeah, 378 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be warm. Colors here in the Western world, Um, 379 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: it's not gonna You're not gonna see a lot of 380 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: brightly painted coffins and stuff like that. No, but also 381 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: they kind of avoid like, um, you're probably I can 382 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: see a black coffin anywhere. Yeah. Those are called um 383 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: receding colors. They're they're dismal in of desperation and despair. 384 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen a lot of like light 385 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: gray and things like that, or just would color. If 386 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: you get like a really nice wood like cherry, sometimes 387 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: it will just be in that. You know that that 388 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: will be the outer shell. And those are pricing, Yes, 389 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: they are um that. As a matter of fact, the 390 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: average cost of a funeral in the US and two 391 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: thousand nine was six thousand, five hundred and sixty which 392 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: is less than I thought. I think a green barrels 393 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: about half that. Yeah, I can see that. I think 394 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: they're like two or three grand because the coffin um 395 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: in the average funeral was two thousand, two hundred and 396 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: ninety five dollars the average cost of a metal coffin 397 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine UM which in two thousand and seven, 398 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: funeral homes and crematories pulled in eleven point nine five 399 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: billion dollars, And one of the ways they pulled in 400 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: that much was from casket sales. Yeah. And I don't 401 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: know if even should say this out loud because it 402 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: sounds like an unfounded accusation that cheap coffins are purposely 403 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: made ugly so they can up sell. Do you think 404 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: that's true? Uh, it's probably true. Well, I know, I've 405 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: I've read that the the funeral home industry marks up 406 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: caskets that they buy, they resell them for more than 407 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: they paid for them. Well, it's a business, and that's 408 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: their product, you know it is. It's a business in 409 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: the Uh, the customers are in a really um, really 410 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: easily exploited place. Yeah, I just I don't know though. 411 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: I just think it is a business. And because it 412 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: deals with death, it's very easy for someone to say, like, 413 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: you're exploiting these people, are taking advantage of them when there. 414 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's true. It's well, I think 415 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: that you can't cast that net across the entire industree. 416 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: I think that that's that's there's But they're also for everybody, 417 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: you know, bad apples Josh. Well, you know, we we 418 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of opulence here in the United States. 419 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: Some people get into that, but apparently in Australia and 420 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Great Britain they're a little more reserved with what they'll 421 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: spend on a casket. In some cultures, like the Jewish faith, Um, 422 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: it's very common to to not have any sort of 423 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: garish thing. It wants you to be burying something very plain, 424 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: so you're not distinguished as to your place in life, 425 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, apparently they'll even the hardware that they 426 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: used to carry is removable, so like when you're buried, 427 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: you're buried in a plane box. Yeah like that. That's yeah, 428 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: that's cool. Um. Do you want to talk about the 429 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: Bow people? The hanging coffins of the Bow not to 430 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: be confused with the Hell of the upside down centers 431 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: in Big Trouble in Little China, although this is in 432 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: Sechuan Province of China. The Bo people are an ethnic 433 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: group that populated the area, and they had this really 434 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: neat tradition of putting the cough finds of their deceased 435 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: up on like three hundred foot cliffs, just craigs, little caves, 436 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: and for centuries, no one has had any idea how 437 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: they got them up there. Yeah, at one point they 438 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: had close to three hundred and now it's only about 439 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: a hundred and three hundred and fifty four hundred feet 440 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: And you've seen did you see pictures? It's crazy. I 441 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: mean they're like, I don't see how they did it. 442 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: They think now they might have lowered them down, but 443 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: they still you know that they're on It looks like 444 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: they're on wood planks that are sticking out of the cliffs. 445 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: So how they do that, I don't can't figure it out. 446 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: It's pretty neat. It's like a little village of coffins 447 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: is kind of clustered on this cliff side. Yeah, with 448 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: the idea that having your relatives higher up um is 449 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: a place of greater respect to be looking up at 450 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: them because that's where the deities were at the tops 451 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: of mountains, and that would placed them closer to the deities. Yes, 452 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: you go up here now, Yeah, because you're dead. Yeah, 453 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: it's very interesting. Um. What about the Egyptians, They had 454 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: the money coffin and if you ask me, yeah, and 455 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: we covered this with Tutt obviously the big sarkofa guy. Um. 456 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: But they didn't they believe that you would just be 457 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: sent to your you know, all this stuff would go 458 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, you need it in your afterlife for 459 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: your journey to the after world, the underworld. Um. And 460 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: I guess the whole it was the opposite of what 461 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: the Jews think. It was. The more socioeconomic status you 462 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: can bestow upon a grave, the better off the person 463 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: is going to be in the next life. You have 464 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: a be jeweled casket, You're you're in our You're okay 465 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: in our book. Yeah. But they actually had texts what 466 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: we know called the Egyptian Book of the Dead and 467 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: was originally um called the uh. It grew out of 468 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: what it called the Egyptian Coffin texts, and there were two. 469 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: The Book of the Dead, um. The Coffin text that 470 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: became the Book of the Dead was for everybody, regardless 471 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: of your socioeconomic status. And it it told you how 472 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: to be buried. And we've done how mummies work, so 473 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: We got into that a lot, and that's basically what 474 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: we relied on. But there was also one for the pharaohs, 475 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: the kings, the that the elite, and those are the 476 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: Pyramid texts, yes, and that's the one that later evolved 477 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: through the Book of the Dead, right, the Pyramid Text. 478 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: I think the Coffin texts. I know, Hey, it's the 479 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: Pyramid Text. Yeah, the Pyramid text is separate. That's the 480 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: one for the for the elite, right, and that's what 481 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: evolved through the Book of the Dead. Um. But I 482 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: think what was in the Coffin Text was contained within 483 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: the Pyramid text, right, Yeah, I think the Coffin Text 484 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: was an umbrella that gave birth to both. It was 485 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: the original one and it actually had the first described 486 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: cosmology ever recorded. Yes, the Book of Two A's within 487 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: the Egyptian Confin Text was the first time they basically said, 488 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: here's what happens to you after death could happen to you, 489 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: And it's basically you cross from one part of the 490 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: sky into a lake of five and then across into 491 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: another part of this guy. Yeah, and the Coffin texts 492 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: have spells and things to help you out as well 493 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: in your journey like check out my bejeweled casket. I'm okay. 494 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: In your book, Chuck, we couldn't talk about um coffins 495 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: if we didn't talk about a really interesting and neat 496 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: trend of the eighteenth and nineteenth century, maybe even seventeenth, 497 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: but I think eighteenth and nineteenth century called safety coffins. Yeah, 498 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: it was. It's a common fear for people to It's 499 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: called tafa phobia, tafo phobia, and um, that's the fear 500 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: of being buried alive. Yeah, and that it's a real thing. 501 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: And people had it then and they have it now. Well, 502 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: they had good reason to have it back then, because 503 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: it happened. Yeah. There there was a book called Premature 504 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: Burial and How It May Be Prevented in book by 505 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: a social reformer named William teb and a couple of 506 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: co authors, and actually one of the co authors was 507 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: a doctor who himself had been premat truly buried. Yeah. 508 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: They went over like account after your account, and they 509 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: even had a chapter called Dubious Accounts. But they basically 510 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: came up with two hundred and nineteen instances of narrow 511 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: escape from premature burial, a hundred forty nine cases of 512 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: actual premature burial, ten cases of vivisection before death, so 513 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: the person they thought was dead they started to cut 514 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: open and they weren't dead. And then and then two 515 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: cases of embalming before death, so like it happened before embalming. 516 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: It was like there was no way to tell you 517 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: were dead. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's that was 518 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: the problem. Is medical science had advanced to the point 519 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: where you could always tell if someone was dead exactly. 520 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: And there was such thing as cholera, which apparently gives 521 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: you the appearance of being dead even when you're not, 522 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: so there was good reason to fear being buried alive 523 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: and as a resultless thing called the safety coffin um 524 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: came up. Yeah, and there were I'm sure you've done 525 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: some other research on this. There were all different sorts 526 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: of methods that they had from a vault that had 527 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: like a little window and uh a wheel you could 528 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: turn on the inside to let yourself out, which would 529 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: be nice. Sometimes it was just a breathing tube. Yeah, 530 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: the the one that was patented in by a guy 531 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: named Count Carnice car Nicky, which is awesome. Uh. He 532 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: had something that was there was a tube with a 533 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: spring going all the way to six ft down. Um, 534 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: and there was a little glass ball at the end 535 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: of the tube and it rested on the deceased chest. 536 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: And if any movement of the chest happened, like you 537 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: took one breath anything like that, it would trip the spring. 538 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: And some this passageway would fly open to let air 539 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: in and a flag would rise up above your grades 540 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: they were still alive. So UM, that one was one 541 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: of the most well known safety coffins and actually in 542 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: premature burial and how it may be prevented. Uh, there's 543 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: a whole little chapter dedicated to it. And actually you 544 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: can find the full text of that online for free. 545 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: It's really interesting. Uh. There were also things that would 546 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: trigger like a bell ringing. Uh. One that even had 547 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: a long fuse firecracker that I guess you could set off. 548 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that'll be the attention to somebody. Um. In 549 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: that book, Teb and his friends they endorse to prevent 550 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: premature burial, either safety coffin or cremation, whether like even 551 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: if you are dead, then even if you're not dead, 552 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: you're going to be dead afterwards. So if we guarantee 553 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: you won't be buried alive, exactly, because you'll be right, 554 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: we're not even going to bury the ultimate safety coffin. 555 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: And there's this guy named Dr Timothy Clark Smith In. 556 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: He died in Middlebury, Vermont, and he's buried to this day, 557 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: which is customary in Evergreen Cemetery, and um, if you 558 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: go to his burial mound, there's a fourteen by fourteen 559 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: inch of plate glass that opens up onto what was 560 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: once his face six down so that people could come 561 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: check on him and make sure he was dead. Because 562 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: he had half a phobia. It was very, very much 563 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: afraid of that fate. That's got to be tied to 564 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: claustrophobia somehow. Well, yeah, they think the a P A 565 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: being They think that, um, you've had some sort of 566 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: early childhood encounter with an enclosed space and either you 567 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: developed half a phobia or you become the batman. Oh 568 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: that's their that's their judgment that you know what that 569 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: sounds like. That sounds like a casket. Fact, let's hear it, 570 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: ah man, that's a sweet actor. Uh let's see what else. 571 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: I got a couple more things? You got anything else? 572 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: I got nothing else? So you can we said that 573 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: the average coffin is like you can also shell out 574 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars. Batesville UH Casket Company makes the Promethean 575 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: Um and it is the coffin that Michael Jackson and 576 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: James Brown were buried in separately. They of their own coffins. Yeah, 577 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: what's the deal was it? Just like it is nice looking, rich, luxurious, 578 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: like navy velvet interior. You're lining this, it looks it 579 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: must be gold but polished at this high shine. It's 580 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: a beautiful casket. I have to say, there's no reason 581 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: in the world for anyone ever to be buried in 582 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 1: a casket like this. But it's out there. Um, if 583 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: you want to go the other way, you can go 584 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 1: to d I y coffin dot com and there are 585 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: schematics to build your own very plain coffin. I saw that. 586 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: I thought about that it might be a nice thing 587 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: to do, build your own coffin that King of the Hill. 588 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: There's a king that where Hank builds his own coffin. 589 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: He's talking about how he started. He's like, well, I 590 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: looked into it and long story short, I got the bug. 591 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: Now he's made. He made. He made. His first try 592 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: was terrible, so he gave that to Peggy and then 593 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: his second try, it's really nice. He's gotten it down 594 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: pat and he Peggy gets the one where like the 595 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: top doesn't close all the way right, That's what mine 596 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: would look. It's a good episode. I'm not a skilled craftsman, 597 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: but I enjoy it. Yeah. And then lastly, you mean, 598 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: I saw Mike Tyson do his little love his little 599 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: spoken word thing. But we saw him d C. It 600 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: was great, um, And he talked about it was really 601 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: sweet because I'm really ambivalent about him because you know, 602 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: it's just he's a really there's a lot to him, 603 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um. And but one of 604 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: the things that he said he did was his mother 605 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: was buried in a potter's field with an unmarked grave 606 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: and like a just a cheap box. And he said 607 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: the first time he made money, he had her exhumed 608 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: and bought like the most expensive headstone in the most 609 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: expensive casket he could find, and had her buried in 610 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: like this other nights cemetery. You know, there's a pauper's 611 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: grave over by the drive in movie theater here in Atlanta. 612 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: M Yeah, is that right? Yeah, it's just yeah, it's 613 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: a pauper's grave and lots of like bad stuff goes 614 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: on there now apparently what oh like and stuff like that. 615 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: It's the way where drugging. Yeah, I'm sure some teams 616 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: are drinking and that's probably not a good tafe place 617 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: to do that. No, I wouldn't think so. Um. Yeah, 618 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: And there's also Potter's Field Pauper's Grave in uh Oakland Cemetery. 619 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which it's basically like a big expansive grass. 620 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: You have a bunch of people who we're poor, we're burying. Yeah. 621 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: I did Mountain Vernon when I was up there, you 622 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: know George Washington's place. Is it cool? Yeah, it's really 623 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: neat because they still do stuff the old fashioned way, 624 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, like if they need a room painted, they 625 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: grind up die and mix it with water and all 626 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: that stuff. But um, you know there is like you know, 627 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: he and Martha are buryed in this like beautiful mausoleum. 628 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: And then there's also like the slave you know grave sites, 629 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: and it's just you know, definitely like he freed all 630 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: his slaves and his will, which was a good thing 631 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: to do, I guess. But anytime you go to one 632 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: of those plantation type things and you see like the 633 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: opulence of his thing, and then this other little side 634 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: area where the slaves are buried. It's just sort of like, yeah, yeah, 635 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: all that happened. That's a sad reminder, it is. And 636 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: no one was visiting like the slave areas much even 637 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: and I was just sort of like that kind of 638 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: rubbed me a little bit. Did you go over there 639 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: and visit it? Yeah? Absolutely good for you. Ye, So 640 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: you got anything else? I got nothing else. That's coffins. 641 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: That's coffins. I was going to write this article a 642 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: couple of years ago because it didn't exist, because I 643 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: wanted to do this. Oh good, I'm glad it came along. 644 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: I think that's just a lesson kids. If you wait 645 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: around long enough, somebody else might do. Well. Then, since 646 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: Chuck gave wait, I think Chuck, that might be a 647 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: casket fact. What is that the last casket back? Okay, well, 648 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: since we had our last casket fact? Um, oh yeah, 649 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: I gotta say. If you want to read this article 650 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: on coffins, you can go to how stuff works dot 651 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: com and you can type in that word ce F 652 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: F I N in the search bar, and that means 653 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: it's time now for a listener. Mail, Josh, I'm gonna 654 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: call this very manipulative email from a Georgia tech fan. 655 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: Here we go, Peter in Virginia. He knows it's coming. 656 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: I want to tell you, guys, how your podcast made 657 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: a difference in my life. I recently found out that 658 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: I have UH diffuse large B cell lymphoma. 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