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Speaker 2: We got three of them on iTunes, and I always

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Speaker 2: my power as a man. Is I can tell my

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Speaker 2: No one's gonna respect your spouse more than you do.

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Speaker 2: Everything's for everybody, you know, and Donald Glover made some

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I too loved the video. The first time I

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Speaker 3: I don't see him pandering to the white gaze.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you for another great episode to keep exuberating

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's a slippery slope because people pick and choose where

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Speaker 2: whether it's because you're trying to avoid it, whether it's

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Speaker 3: And it's a weird dichoonomy.

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Speaker 2: Because to get to the money, you kind of need

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Speaker 2: So I found it more funny that a lot of

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Speaker 4: Of a.

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Speaker 3: Lackluster criticism. Now you can make.

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Speaker 2: Now that, like I said, you can still make a

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Speaker 5: your paycheck to purchase in your card, to purch it

439
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 5: in your home, going to the bank, anything, you buy

440
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 5: your phone, anything you do go buy people hands in it.

441
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 4: So that and to me, that's the reality of it.

442
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's weird because, like, uh, one of the

443
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: things I was actually glad to read, he said, he

444
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: logged off of social media the Thursday before the video

445
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: came out, and I was like, Yo, that's dope. I

446
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: couldn't handle it as just as just watching people fight

447
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: third party, like it had nothing to do with me

448
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: in the house, Like Jesus, people are going at each other.

449
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, so, I do feel like social

450
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 2: media can be in a healthy place. As much as

451
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: people try to, you know, promote the positives of it,

452
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: there's some there are some harsh negatives that not everyone.

453
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 3: Can live with.

454
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: And when you're the moment of the week, when you're

455
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 2: the at the hour, the woman of the hour, the

456
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: person of the hour, whatever, like it's a lot of.

457
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: Pressure on you. You know.

458
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: Like one of the things I think got lost in

459
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: the Kanye West interview because everybody was so mad about

460
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: the slavery shit. But one of the real estates he

461
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: said to me was when he talked about Rob leaving

462
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: the wedding, like his sister's wedding, because he was tired

463
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: of paparazzi and he knew they were gonna be about

464
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 2: his weight and they were gonna like do that, so

465
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: he kind of hit up in his room and then

466
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 2: got out of there and flipped out or you know,

467
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 2: just got the fuck out of there before anybody could

468
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: see him. And I'm like, damn, this nigga didn't even

469
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 2: get to enjoy his sister's wedding. And you know, that's

470
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: that pressure from fame and social media, and there's a

471
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: lot of bitter, nasty shit that happens on social media.

472
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: You know, ways that we wouldn't talk about people we liked,

473
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: ways that we wouldn't talk about people in their faces.

474
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Speaker 2: And it's not just you know, to quote unquote bad

475
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: people are not like it's just people in general are

476
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: kind of bad. And then when and then Kanye said

477
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: he got LiPo because he wanted to impress quote unquote

478
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: y'all TMZ, The TMZ audience, all of us that are

479
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: looking in this fishbowl of these people. And I was like, yeah,

480
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: I think to a certain extent, as a creator, as

481
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: a person that causes people to talk about content, social

482
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: media has kind of been a bit unhealthy because people

483
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: get obsessed for their own personal reasons about you, positive

484
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: and negative, and they spent an inexhorbited amount of time

485
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: speaking to you in a way that they couldn't before.

486
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: And I don't think and while a lot of people

487
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: everyone thinks their voice is important and it should matter,

488
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: and I should be able to talk directly to the

489
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: artists and tell them what I like or don't like,

490
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: that's not always healthy because not everyone's coming from a

491
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: good place with that shit. And also, like people take

492
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: credit for certain shit that I don't think they're necessarily doing,

493
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: you know, Like I saw people say like, well, Beyond

494
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: are improved and became more inclusive over the years.

495
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: Because we were.

496
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Speaker 2: Criticizing her, I'm like, was it Do you really think

497
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 2: you and your Twitter account were doing it? What if

498
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: she just became what if she educated herself, What if

499
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: she surrounded herself with people and they went, oh, well

500
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: what about this? What about because you know, it's a process.

501
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: She has a lot of people involved. That's kind of

502
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: the natural development of most human beings. We don't it's

503
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: not most of us don't learn because someone came up

504
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: and harshly criticized us. Now you might some people might

505
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: respond to that. I'm not saying no one does. But

506
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: most of us get defensive and runaway when someone comes

507
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: at us sideways, even when we were wrong and we

508
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: made a mistake. But there's a lot of learning that

509
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: can happen that just doesn't happen in the way that

510
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: people would like to see it. And because social media

511
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: is giving us us access to people, we want them

512
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: to play out the entire process in front of us.

513
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: We want them to not just be like you fucked

514
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: up on in front of us. Now come back and

515
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: apologize in front of us. Now show us all the

516
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: work you're doing in front of us, as if one

517
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna have some sort of combined unanimous like Okay,

518
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: this person's good again, We're not gonna have that. And two,

519
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: as if it's really valuable for them to do that.

520
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: It really doesn't seem to be much value in it

521
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: because we've made it.

522
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Speaker 3: I think with the way that.

523
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: We withhold quote unquote forgiveness and carry these receipts and

524
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: not let people move on. We've kind of made it

525
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: less valuable to be an upstanding person or to address

526
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: things that you've done. We've made it a kind of

527
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: pointless unless it's fucking with your money. It's almost pointless

528
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: to remind people that you fucked up by even apologizing.

529
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like we've lost something in the

530
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: last few years via social media, where we might have

531
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: had an opportunity to improve people.

532
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: But I don't think that's happening as much.

533
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: I think people now just go, I'm allowed to fuck off,

534
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: or my rep will be handling my social media and

535
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna continue to be rich and in a box

536
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: away from y'all. Right, man, I don't blame them, because

537
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: most people in their regularss lives put their own personal

538
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: You might not be rich, but you put yourself in

539
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: the box. You box yourself around people that normally agree

540
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: with you. You box yourself around love once and normally

541
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: agree with you, and you and your personal life won't.

542
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: Won't nobody coming at you sideways, talking all crazy do

543
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: you SAand foul shit to you, criticized and everything you

544
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: got on criticized, and everything you do criticize and everywhere

545
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: you go criticizing your size.

546
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: You wouldn't want that.

547
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

548
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: One of the things I thought was interesting is in

549
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: the wake of this Lipstick Alley had, like people would

550
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: going to that website and finding some of the Twitter

551
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: people that were that were very critical of Donald Glovern

552
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 2: and being like, look what you was talking about back then,

553
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: Like they keep.

554
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 3: Receipts the way that people keep receives the celebrities.

555
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: But with Twitter people, And I'm like, yeah, is it

556
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: everybody kind of operating on some grace like did we not?

557
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: Did we forget?

558
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: But I guess when it's not you on the Summer

559
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: Jam screen, it's just easy to act like I know

560
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But it's like, when you had two

561
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: hundred followers, you didn't have to put a public relations

562
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: apology out for some shit you said. You just went, well,

563
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: my bad, deleted the tweet, and we all moved on

564
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: because that's what was supposed to happen kinda and that

565
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: doesn't happen anymore, you know, Or even if you didn't apologize,

566
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: you just deleted the tweet. Everyone's done that. But somehow

567
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's different when you get famous and shit.

568
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: So anyway, uh d ee bb it BB, I'll pronounce

569
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: it all right, E B B B all right, I'm

570
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: fucking your name up. E. I'm gonna call you E.

571
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for fucking your name up. You took the

572
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: words right out of my mouth. I personally liked the video,

573
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: but I'm always up for criticisms. Not everyone likes or

574
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: feels the same way about art subjectively and all that.

575
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: But Twitter was unbearable for like forty eight hours. It

576
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: was thread after thread of people who clearly just don't

577
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: like Donald Glover going off about how we shouldn't like

578
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 2: the video because it's violin and oh my god, how

579
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: dare you talk about blackness as if Donald Glover ain't

580
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: been black as a whole goddamn life, Like you just

581
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: woke up yesterday AND's went, oh.

582
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: Damn, I think I'm a nigga.

583
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm not here for this weird thing we do where

584
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: a black person does black art and some black people

585
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: start accusing the artists of trying to speak for all

586
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: black people.

587
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was another thing.

588
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: Someone was like, I don't see any this type and

589
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: that type of inclusion in the video. And I'm like,

590
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, because on the other hand, if you

591
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: it's always damned if you do, damn if you don't,

592
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: Because if I put certain type of people in my video,

593
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: y'all gonna be like, well, look at this nigga just

594
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: window dressing for his sins, fantasy world of blah blah blah.

595
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: He don't even believe that. It like you gonna get

596
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: caught up either way. So it's like, just do what's

597
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: true to yourself and let people insert themselves anyway. Cause

598
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: for a lot of the criticism, it's felt like, nigga,

599
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: you just need to make a music video, and I

600
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: hope your shit is popping, like like maybe you should

601
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: do something something with your shit, and I hope that

602
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: your shit is good enough that it'll please everybody. You

603
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: sounds like you should be rich. It's like my dad

604
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: used to say. It's like my dad used to say,

605
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: he'd be like, well, you're so smart, why you ain't rich.

606
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: It was all like not that money equals smart, but

607
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: it was this point of like you got all the answers,

608
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: why the fuck your shit not pop it? Cause it's

609
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: like because it's a lot more to it than just

610
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: me being able to critique your shit.

611
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm you know, like, is my critique valuable or is

612
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: it not?

613
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: And some critiques like I think people feel like they're valuable,

614
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't. I don't know that if

615
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: they made the video you wanted that the rest of

616
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: us would even be talking about that shit.

617
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: You know.

618
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: Plus they made this, they made it seem like these

619
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: other videos don't already exist, Like Kendrick Glmart didn't make

620
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: all right, you know what I mean, Like we have

621
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: seen it the other way without the violence and shit,

622
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: go watch that. But I bet you don't like that

623
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: for some reason too. Anyway, unless Donald Glover starts saying

624
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: this his artistic vision speaks for all black people, that's

625
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: a really unfair thing that some in the hell of

626
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: a stretch.

627
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: The other thing I saw was really weird people.

628
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: That was really where it was people sharing the link

629
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: to a blog that literally seems to exist on the

630
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: list all the negative things celebrities have ever done?

631
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: What does that list have to do with the video?

632
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: Exactly right?

633
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: That was that. That's the problem that I had.

634
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: It's different put like this and I feel like this

635
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: just come out saying you don't like the nigga. But

636
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: people don't want to say that because second you say

637
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 5: you don't like him, you're automatically dismissed.

638
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: But let me go ahead and.

639
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 5: Dismiss you because everything you say after that is irrelevant

640
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 5: because you're talking about shit. It's not about the video,

641
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 5: right Like, and that's the problem. Let's talk about the video.

642
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 5: Let's go tique the video. Let everything be about the video.

643
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 5: I am fine with that.

644
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: Tweets he's had in the past, things he's had in

645
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: the past. You can have problems with that.

646
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: I don't.

647
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: It's fine. If you have problems with that, it's fine

648
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: to bring those things up. Don't get me wrong.

649
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: But right now, this conversation we have right now is

650
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 5: about his video, not the other problematic shit that made

651
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: he had he has done in the past.

652
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: Yo.

653
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: What's wild is that, Like, I'm still so glad to

654
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: still have that piece of me that's able to be like, uh,

655
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: low key just ignorant, you know what I mean? Like

656
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: I still got that part of me that's like, Okay,

657
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn this shit up and just veg out and.

658
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all do your thing.

659
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: You know cause, like I think, especially with social media,

660
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: so much social capital is is caught up in kind

661
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: of always analyzing and breaking everything down, and we all

662
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: kind of can do it at different times. So much

663
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: of that social capital is kind of about getting up

664
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: there and performing and talking about the latest thing. But sometimes, man,

665
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm just like the song Catchy, I wake up everyone

666
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 2: that's in my head. I listen to it. I've been

667
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: a fan of this niggas music for a long time.

668
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop because y'all have determined to go

669
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: back and find everything he's ever done that you didn't like, Like,

670
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: I get it, but it's not.

671
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: But for me, I've been over that shit.

672
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: I've been like, you know what, dog uh that that

673
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: motherfucker might not be the kind of nigga I would

674
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: have at my house or if he was in my face,

675
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: I'd be like, man, what was that shit about? Which

676
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: really speaks to the fact that the media is that

677
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: so much of the access that media has, it's still

678
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: like white media, because like, these people don't even care

679
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: about this shit. This is a black kind of only conversation,

680
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: and nobody really asks or cares about this enough to

681
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: ask him. In these articles or these profiles unless he's

682
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: telling people not to ask him. But yeah, the point being, like, uh,

683
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: they do keep receipts like that now, and it's only

684
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: for mean, petty shit like this.

685
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: It's not even for anyone's edification. It's not.

686
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: It's almost like I caught your liking some shit. Now

687
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: let me tell you why you shouldn't. Right, Well, too bad, man,

688
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm a human being. I'm gonna like some things. We

689
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: don't all like the same thing, Like, there's gonna be

690
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: people that are like and I don't feel like liking

691
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: something condoned the behavior of the individual. And I think

692
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: we're all adult enough to know that. So it almost

693
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: should go without saying. But when you don't like somebody,

694
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: you try to raise everybody's involvement to a conspiratorial level

695
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: of Well, if you're listening to this, you must be

696
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: okay with no, I'm not.

697
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: You know, I watched Terminator.

698
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm not okay with you shooting people like It's not

699
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: those things to me are not the same, you know.

700
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: And maybe I'm desensitized to certain types of cartoon cartoonish

701
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: or ridiculous violence in movies and shit, maybe I'm just

702
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: maybe I'm it just doesn't really Like I've never watched

703
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: die Hard and thought to myself, all those people are dead.

704
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm just like they were acting, they were playing, they

705
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: did good, you know, special effects.

706
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: And for me, like I said, I'm not that woke.

707
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: And the reason why I said I'm not that woke

708
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: is because some people criticize things so much and the

709
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: way they talk, like you almost got the boringest fucking

710
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 5: ass lieever.

711
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: You don't laugh at shit.

712
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: Everything's wrong, everybody's problematic. Everybody got a problem and you

713
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 5: just perfect and everything you said. You are not fun

714
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 5: to be around. Oh my god, go away, Like what's

715
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: wrong with Joe?

716
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: You know? What's wow too? Is like people.

717
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: It's a control freak thing because people will be okay

718
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: and allow for the things that they have. Like listen,

719
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: I sometimes still listen to Chris Brown. So I understand

720
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: we are all problematic. You're like, okay, cool, we're all problematic.

721
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: I feel you on that. Then you say so I

722
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: was listening to so and so and they're like, you

723
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: listen to blank?

724
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: Why would you do it?

725
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, nigga, you just said you just

726
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: we all we haven't any ago you understood. Now you

727
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: don't understand anymore anyway, And who has the time to

728
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: sit there and crate the whole lass blog dedicated everything

729
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: bad a person's ever done.

730
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: That's just weird to me.

731
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen tumblrs like that, Like the whole tumblr

732
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: is just receipt something like this person fucked up on

733
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: Twitter at this one time, or this person said so

734
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: and so in an interview, and I'm like, you know what, dog, I'm.

735
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: Good right, And you know I'm like you, I have

736
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: that piece of my brain. I have a piece of

737
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 5: wretchedness in me that I will never let go.

738
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: Yes, it's problematic, Yes it's it.

739
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 5: Don't go against everything the won't people do. Yes, I'm

740
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 5: gonna listen to Master p. Yes, I'm gonna listen to

741
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: Card to B. Yes, I'm gonna listen drop it like

742
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 5: it's hot. Yes, I'm gonna listen to to to a

743
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 5: nigga rapping calling people bitches and holes and swept if

744
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 5: that beat bangup, motherfucker.

745
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: I'm there.

746
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 5: Yes, it's problematic, but I can still like it. And

747
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: a lot of people act like everything you god damn

748
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 5: consumed have to go through a fucking purity filter.

749
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 4: That's not true.

750
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: You anna know what else it is too. They also

751
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: do that. They did this with Cardi B.

752
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: They also do this thing where once they the wokes

753
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: like some shit, they literally will try to pretend like

754
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: what they like is on the same political spectrum as them,

755
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: and it's not always. And that's okay. You're gonna like

756
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: some things that didn't go You're gonna like some people

757
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: who didn't go to school and understand intersectional feminism and

758
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: they didn't fucking major in political science and they don't

759
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: know what the fuckisms Marxism is or Stalinism or any

760
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: of this other shit. Like, not everybody is walking around

761
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: with a fucking you know, uh Arts degree and some shit,

762
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people are just out here trying

763
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: to do the best they fucking can, and they might

764
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: be talented and they might make money, but they might

765
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: also make mistakes and their views might not always line

766
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: up with yours. And there was a time when it

767
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: was kind of understood that I might fuck with this album.

768
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, that nigga did say that shit and that

769
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: was fucked up. But I don't need to answer for

770
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: it because I didn't say it, and that's his music

771
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: and if you don't like it, you don't have to

772
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: like it. There was kind of a time like that,

773
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: but I'm it's like in our lifetime because of social media.

774
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: I don't think the actual I think it's still like this,

775
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: by the way, but I think social media tries to

776
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: make it feel like that's changed, and it really hasn't changed.

777
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Because if you walked around on the average day and

778
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: go I was listening to Biggie Smalls, people aren't gonna say, well,

779
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: did you know his lyrics are problematic, because I'll be like,

780
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: of course they are, He's Biggie Smalls.

781
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: I listen to it because it's problematic. I don't want to.

782
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

783
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: I don't know who you're listening to, but I don't

784
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: want your version of non problematic shit. I'll take the

785
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: problematic shit that's bumping right and not.

786
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: All the time.

787
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: A lot of times, a lot of these molte people

788
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 5: think they're telling you shit you don't know, do you

789
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 5: not know? It's doctors and lawyers and scientists and people

790
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 5: that I have got three four, five, six degrees. But

791
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: you let some motherfucker biggie onemo chance, come on, they

792
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 5: gonna be popping you let some DMX come on, they

793
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: gonna be popp you know what I mean, Like you

794
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: could be highly educated and listen to ignorant shit. And

795
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: a lot of times, not all, but some people associate

796
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: certain music with almost like a lower class. No, you

797
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: don't have to be a quote unquote roll class to

798
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: endoy ratchet shit.

799
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, and in this case it's not

800
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: even about Donald glove and shit being ratchet or anything,

801
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: but it's still that same feeling of like he didn't

802
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: pass the lens of what the woke people need him

803
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: to do for him to be able to make music

804
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: like this. And here's the thing, you don't matter. You

805
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: don't get to decide what the fuck they person can

806
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: do or not. You only decide if you're gonna listen

807
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: to it or not. He was the number one training

808
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: artist on social media this week. His video had the

809
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: most views that he's ever gotten for a video.

810
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: End of the day, he was right.

811
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: All this criticism and shit that people have ain't do

812
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: nothing but boost off his shit. Even more like, end

813
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: of the day, he was right. What he did got

814
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: for the purposes of selling his album and getting attention.

815
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: It worked, and all the people that claim that you know,

816
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: he can't do this and he can't do that. None

817
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: of them are the gatekeepers in the industry. None of

818
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: them get to say what he can't do. You don't

819
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: have to like it, but you're still talking about it

820
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: and you're still spreading the word for him. So he

821
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: kind of just fell in line with that shit. So

822
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting to see that response. And yeah,

823
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: bringing up the receipts ain't doing nothing, but it's gonna

824
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: turn it's you know what it's gonna do, and I'm

825
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: gonna probably have to do stuff like I did this

826
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: week while I take breaks from social media over it.

827
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: It's gonna turn.

828
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: Him into that like Ja Cole slash Rick and Morty

829
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: type thing where the fans start with coming stands because

830
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: they tired of the dude getting attacked for shit that

831
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: people feel like it is a bit unfair. You know,

832
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: like ten years from now, people are gonna still be

833
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: bringing up tweets from twenty thirteen, and people are gonna

834
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: be like, I don't give a fuck no more, right,

835
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: And it's gonna turn people into those like ridiculous people

836
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: that tax folks for talking shit and stuff. I mean,

837
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm not doing any of it. I think both of

838
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: those things are kind of ridiculous to me. But yeah,

839
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: but it's kind of interesting to see, like how far

840
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: it will go because I mean, people at each other's throats,

841
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: and if he keeps making music like this, it's gonna

842
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: continue to be a thing. So anyway, that's why I

843
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: like having a podcast, because social media are much tougher

844
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: space to even have these discussions and and you almost

845
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: don't want to disagree with anybody because everyone's a tile

846
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: to their opinion. But at the same time, some of

847
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: these opinions are like I don't know, they're just so

848
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: out there to me where I'm like, but I know

849
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 2: you and I watch you have the other way opinion

850
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: on other shit, but for some reason, this dude, you

851
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: just can't see it past them, so and you won't

852
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: admit it, because if you would admit it, I'm okay

853
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: with that too, because I'm like, oh yeah, I can

854
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: get with that.

855
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: I know that feeling right.

856
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: Just say yes, I'm patty like, and that's the thing.

857
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 5: I respect you being truthful, but a lot of people

858
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 5: are not truthful at the foundation of it. As a

859
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: day don't like him, and they will put all kind

860
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: of excuses, all kind of butt, and you be like

861
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: just saying you don't like him, and you be like

862
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: you don't like him, Nah, just say you don't like

863
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 5: him so we can move on with this conversation.

864
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

865
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: You don't even have to say you're petty, though, because

866
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it's petty to not like somebody that

867
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: has said and done some of the shit he's done.

868
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: I don't think that's petty at all.

869
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I wish people could leave it at

870
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't like him, so I wouldn't have liked this

871
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: video no matter what the fuck he did.

872
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: I was gonna find a way that it was wrong.

873
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: I was gonna read his New Yorker article interview and

874
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: find a way that even if it was one sentence,

875
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, this motherfucker ain't shit like Some

876
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: motherfuckers are just like that because you don't like him.

877
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: That's what happens when you don't like somebody. I've been

878
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: like that about people.

879
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: I am like that.

880
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: Vashan Mary did an interview and slam one time. I'll

881
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: never forget. He tried to talk about how he was

882
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: Underrated's trying to get paid, but he talked about how

883
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: he was underrated and he was trying to take more

884
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: credit for the Suns.

885
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: Than fucking Steve.

886
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 2: I was like, if this nigga gonna get the fuck

887
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: out of my face, and but like he had every

888
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: right to advocate for himself, why the fuck wouldn't he

889
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: and he trying to get paid It makes sense.

890
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: I was walking around my dorm like, look at this

891
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: shit he said, and I'm like, oh, it's me. It's

892
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: not him, it's me.

893
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't like this nigga, it does. I don't even

894
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: know this dude, and I'm hating. And it's like people

895
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: so scared to be dismissed as hating that they won't

896
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: admit when they're doing it. But hating is really like

897
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: some of the funny shit you can do. I mean,

898
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: if you do it right anyway, If I don't like

899
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: a person, I just say I don't like to ask

900
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: and go. Ain't no need to drop a convenient link

901
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: to everything bad they ever did. Chances are if they

902
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: did something that caused me to not like them, I

903
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: remember it, and like I said myself, if somebody asked,

904
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to drop that. And people's mentions randomly

905
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: like I saw folks doing. I guess I'm just surprised

906
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: to see that people actually keep track like that. Yeah,

907
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: I ain't surprised at all. Like I said, listic Ali

908
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: was doing that shit to like regular Well it's not

909
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: listed Ali that was doing it, but people were going

910
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: and finding lists tick Ali Lynx and pictures like like

911
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: they knew what the dirt was them niggas know what

912
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: the bodies is.

913
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: So they was like, but what about this? I was like, ooh,

914
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: they doing it to each other?

915
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: No, I was about to get ugly out here, like

916
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: damn man, ain't no roofs on the internet, so Ruth

917
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: don't live here. But but yeah, I think that was

918
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: kind of like a big point is when I don't

919
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: like something, I normally tune the fuck out, Like that's

920
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: just my my nature.

921
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: That shit I don't like it, I'm just like I

922
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: don't get it. I don't like it.

923
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't need to have a commentary on it. I

924
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: just don't give.

925
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 5: A fuck, right, And in my life I realized being

926
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: like that, I've been a lot more peace honestly, Like

927
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 5: Roger know me, I will type out of some bullshit

928
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 5: and I be like, oh, that bit's crazy, all that

929
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 5: nigga insane.

930
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm out, I'm so low key. I think some of

931
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers really do be liking it and they don't.

932
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: That's really what the problem is. It's like Andy Kloinin

933
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: always says about from Three Guys On what he talks about,

934
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: how people get offended at jokes sometimes because they did

935
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: it laughed right, not because they didn't laugh, but because

936
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: they did.

937
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: Find it funny.

938
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 2: And that feeling of I laughed at the quote unquote

939
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: wrong thing means you, as a comedian should not ever

940
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: be able to do that because of the way I feel.

941
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: Or they say stuff like no one was laughing, and

942
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: you like look around the room like everyone was laughing,

943
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: but you don't act like like you're mad, because people

944
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: do still find this shit funny, not because it's not funny.

945
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: If it's not funny, I'll just be bombing up here.

946
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: Nobody give a fuck.

947
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: But right, just.

948
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 5: Because you don't find no joy in life, don't mean

949
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 5: I have to subscribe to your same rule.

950
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying every joke is like that, but

951
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: sometimes there are jokes where, like, you know, we'll see

952
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: it like someone makes a black person makes a joke

953
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: that they had something to do with whiteness, and a

954
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: white person starts talking about it is not funny and

955
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: if I said this, you would be that.

956
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: And you're like, no, you know it's funny. Everyone laughed.

957
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: This is about you, it's not about them. There's nothing

958
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: wrong with that joke anyway. And confused about why you

959
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: weaponize the Lincoln dropping in the strangers mentioned because they

960
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: seem to be in Joe on something. Social media man

961
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: control free, people like drama, people like fighting.

962
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: That's really all it is.

963
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: Like, I was just determined I wasn't fighting anybody over

964
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: the fucking video.

965
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: I liked it.

966
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't have anything else to say about what the

967
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: fuck it should mean to anyone but me.

968
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: I really can't.

969
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Anyways, Thanks for this episode. I was just as frustrated you.

970
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: It was nice to hear somebody not being ridiculous about

971
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: the video. Yeah, man or I don't know this person's gender,

972
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, I like I said, I hope everybody finds

973
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: peace and happiness, and they shit and if it's writing

974
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: about how dollar glovety shit and that makes you happy,

975
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: have fun with that.

976
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: But I'm just not. I can't do it. I can't.

977
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: It's just too much.

978
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: And this was one of those times where I was

979
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: just like, you know, let me get away from everybody

980
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: so I can actually enjoy something, because these niggas will

981
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 2: talk you to death and be mad that you don't

982
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: give a fuck, you know, cause I can agree with

983
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: your criticism while also being like, but I like this song.

984
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: Can I just like the fucking song and you leave

985
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: me alone?

986
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: Correct?

987
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: You know, Like I'm never it's funny.

988
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm If you look at my Twitter account, it's very

989
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: rare I go in someone's mentions to even tell them

990
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: I disagree or to correct them or anything like that,

991
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: because for the most part, I don't give a fuck

992
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: what people think. Nope, Like I can kind of remember

993
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 2: off the top of my head the last time I

994
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: talk to somebody to kind of be like, but what

995
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: about this?

996
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: And that was my man.

997
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 2: George Foster was saying something about how Michelle Obama said

998
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: that basically boys get more chances to fail than girls,

999
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: and he was like, well, as a black man, I

1000
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: don't get that many chances to fail. So I got it,

1001
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: Da da da, And I was like, but there's black

1002
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: girls and they get even less chances than us, and

1003
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: that's the only point she's making. And honestly, I was

1004
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: prepared for him to be like, man, fuck that shit

1005
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: or whatever, but he was kind of like, oh, yeah,

1006
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying, and I'm like, yep.

1007
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, you know, cool man, be easy.

1008
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: It was very amicable, and I of course didn't disrespect

1009
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: to him. I talked to him the same way I

1010
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: talked to my friend or something. I you know, I

1011
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: try not to just do that to people like that.

1012
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: But the point being like, I very rarely go in

1013
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: anyone's bitches about shit like that. That's that's how rare

1014
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: it happens, because I can remember the fucking times I

1015
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: did it.

1016
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Because for the most part, I chose to follow you.

1017
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: If I don't like what you're talking about, I can

1018
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: just unfollow you, mute you, block you, or whatever.

1019
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: But I don't really need to have a debate with you.

1020
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna change one person's mind on the internet

1021
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: and then what we're gonna do start a fucking book club,

1022
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: Like that's the end of it.

1023
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: Yep, you better than me, I you know me. I

1024
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: don't do that at all.

1025
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: Your opinion, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I read Charles says, I

1026
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: read Tinnah Hoste Coat's opinion piece on I'm Not Black,

1027
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm Kanye.

1028
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: I think it was.

1029
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: Pretty well considered meditation on what fame at that level

1030
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: of Michael Jackson or Kanye at the lesser level with that.

1031
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: Coach himself with joy can do to humans.

1032
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: I think the main point is that as humans will

1033
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: not evolve to and haven't developed the twos to deal

1034
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: with such that level of me that is possible to

1035
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: make of the Internet, television, social media, especially when combined

1036
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: with power and money.

1037
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: I agree. Man.

1038
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: Listen, some of my friends that have gotten to that

1039
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: point where they've gotten a lot of Internet attention, they

1040
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: end up in like therapy, they end up off the Internet.

1041
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: They end up look at all these activists and shit,

1042
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: they don't be active on Twitter like that that much.

1043
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: And the ones that do is normally because they just

1044
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: in constant turmoil and they're always finding some more shit

1045
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: to be mad about, which you have to wonder, like,

1046
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: I hope they're doing okay, you know what I'm saying,

1047
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: because like this shit is not really Humans cannot be

1048
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: built for this level of fucking, you know, critique.

1049
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: It's just I don't.

1050
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: Think people are from just anybody and anybody you know, so,

1051
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: and there's no real channel or filtering really that you

1052
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: can try. But it's very difficult, so I can understand

1053
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: people not being ready for it. The other thing I

1054
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: say about the coach pis I still haven't finished.

1055
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: I just.

1056
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm gonna try to finish it because he is

1057
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: one of my favorite writers.

1058
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: I do need.

1059
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: To read it to see, like, because I do respect

1060
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: his depending on a lot of things. But one of

1061
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: the things he was saying was about how I know

1062
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: how I felt watching Michael Jackson as a kid deteriorate

1063
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: evolved change into essentially a white person. I understand he

1064
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: had videlago. You know, I don't know the truth or

1065
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: the lot of that, to be honest, I don't know

1066
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: how that works, but that's what he said. But it's

1067
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: like Bomai Jones said, Vida Lago ain't make him do

1068
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: all that shit his face or his hair. So as

1069
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: much as he was like getting closer and closer to

1070
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: pro blackness, by the end, I'm like, well, you being

1071
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: more pro black because the fucking.

1072
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: Case was coming down on your ass.

1073
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: You was trying to get your master's back from your

1074
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: record label, like motherfucker's runner.

1075
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: That black shit a lot. I remember the Fruit of

1076
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: Islam was trying to help him.

1077
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: His master's back and shit like we black people, just

1078
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: like OJ was in that church of that Dashiki, We

1079
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: black people will take you back when you are a

1080
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 2: black man in distress, no matter how far it seems

1081
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: you have run from us.

1082
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: So his art got somewhat blacker. You know.

1083
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: I never felt like he was completely It was a

1084
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: process and I never felt like he was completely like cooning,

1085
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like it never felt like

1086
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: he would do what Kanye did. I could never see

1087
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson saying some ignorant shit like what Kanye said,

1088
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 2: but I could see that it felt like he hated

1089
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: his features or something. It felt like he hated the

1090
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: Jackson nose and the hair and and every and it

1091
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: just felt like it made us the abuse.

1092
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1093
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: I can't speak for him, but maybe it was the

1094
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: abuse as a kid. It could have been a lot

1095
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: of things, but I know how I felt as a kid,

1096
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: and it did feel like what is going on with him?

1097
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: Does he not want to be black? No more?

1098
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: Does he not want to be that little black kid

1099
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: with the fro that we all adored, Like, is that

1100
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: was that not good enough?

1101
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So I don't know.

1102
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: I hope he h you know, I don't I know

1103
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: that that that coach's interpretation of it was definitely like

1104
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 2: a this fame and money and this fear and this

1105
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: this this uh running from blackness thing that he saw

1106
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: common and Kanye and uh a MJ. I had to

1107
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: finish reading it at some point because I just was like,

1108
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: I don't know that, and maybe I'm out of the loop.

1109
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: I just don't know that Kanye was worth addressing like this,

1110
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: you know, for all the I was talking to just

1111
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: about it yesterday, It's like, what about the impressionable people

1112
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: that will be influenced by Kanye? And I was like,

1113
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: fuck them, They're stupid. I can't live my life worrying

1114
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: about them. Though, if you're stupid enough to think slavery

1115
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: was a choice because fucking Kanye West said it, I

1116
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: don't don't have any room for you in my life

1117
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: that I need to be more concerned about you paying

1118
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: attention to street signs and crossing the street and not

1119
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: get run over by car because you're apparently that fucking dumb.

1120
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't with that.

1121
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: I can't make the lowest common denominator the center part

1122
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: of an argument.

1123
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 3: Nah.

1124
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that Kanye rebuttal shit we

1125
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: were doing was about the fact that we're black people.

1126
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: We've been traumatized via racism, slavery, and oppression, and we

1127
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: was like, what you're not gonna do and that's the impult.

1128
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: We have to defend ourselves because we're sick of this shit.

1129
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: And that's valid too, But I didn't want to participate in.

1130
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: It because.

1131
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: Personally, I know he's stupid for saying that shit, and

1132
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: he might just be on off his meage or some shit,

1133
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: and I can't be.

1134
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let his being.

1135
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 2: Disturbed or his dealing with whatever he's dealing with get

1136
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: me off of what the fuck I'm on, which is

1137
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be more peaceful, be more positive, have

1138
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: more save my energy for things that matter, people that

1139
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: I love, I care about, and Kanye West is not

1140
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: one of those people for me, so right right, And

1141
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: that's why going back to the opinion things, I can't

1142
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: consume everybody's opinion because it's like Hey, I got the

1143
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: real shit to be actually be concerned about, and it's

1144
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: not that right.

1145
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: So no, no, no offense. You know, So.

1146
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 2: Was it kind of was it kind of contrived? Maybe

1147
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: a bit of a stretch? Yeah, am my fan of coach. Yes,

1148
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: And of course if it's fine for you Rod to

1149
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: have really been turned off by the article, if I

1150
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: understood you correctly, I just thought of our comments as

1151
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: topic came.

1152
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: Up for the show.

1153
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: I'm not mad you mad, are going in on you?

1154
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: We just took different things from the same bit of writing. Yeah,

1155
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: I might try to go back and read it at

1156
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: some point. I just I was overwhelmed that week and

1157
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: it was too much. I'm like, how the fun? But

1158
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: how many more people gonna talk about Kanye Dog? Like?

1159
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: How many more stupid things are you gonna say? And

1160
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: how many more people are that? Are I find much

1161
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: more important than this? Dude, don't have to come out

1162
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: and be like, but let me tell y'all why slavery

1163
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: wasn't a choice? And I'm like, are we are we

1164
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: that fucking.

1165
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, just.

1166
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: Something that we have to fight that one like, because

1167
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, who the fuck is the person that.

1168
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: Thinks it was a choice.

1169
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: That didn't feel that way until Kanye said it, Like,

1170
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: who the fuck are you?

1171
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: Hey?

1172
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: Man?

1173
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: I thought it was a choice the whole time, But

1174
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: thank god you's his head at first.

1175
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: Now I'm like, what, M like?

1176
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: The only people that was he saying that shit must

1177
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 2: be people that already hate us and they just used

1178
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: it as more fuel for their fire.

1179
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: I hope nobody, really, I hope man.

1180
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: Anyway, Kyle says, the best part of this American controversy

1181
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: is said, this is American controversy. It seems like Donald

1182
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: won't give an explanation. Ain't time soon, if at all.

1183
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1184
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: Uh, he said, basically gonna let people decide what it means.

1185
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: I think TMZ interviewed him at an airport and he basically

1186
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: was like, whatever y'all think it means and just moved on.

1187
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: The director did an interview, and I did enjoy his interview.

1188
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: He because one to kind of confirmed some things I

1189
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: already thought about the video. But he also said, we

1190
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: were trying to convey a feeling, not a specific moment

1191
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: or point like this specific commentary is like, we wanted

1192
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: to make a feeling of what it's like to be

1193
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: black and live in America, you know, and trauma and

1194
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: you trying to survive it, trying to prosper in it,

1195
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: but didn't still being surrounded by it. And I was like,

1196
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: that's how I felt. So it worked on me. Some

1197
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: people aren't gonna be able to make it past it,

1198
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: and that's okay too, And I loved My favorite comment

1199
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: of his was they asked him about the tweets of

1200
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: people who were like, it's traumatizing.

1201
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to see this, and he was like,

1202
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: I understand.

1203
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: And as a black person in America, how many of

1204
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: us in the last few years have had to have

1205
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: that moment where we went cried, somewhere to ourselves, went

1206
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: in the bathroom, took a break, had to have a moment.

1207
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: He was like, I understand.

1208
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: And I agree with her the person who was saying that,

1209
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: And he was like, you know that, but basically, this

1210
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: is the choice we made. Like I knew it was

1211
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: gonna give people that feeling, but that's what I want

1212
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: to I want the video to to pass on the

1213
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: feeling that we have here.

1214
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that's the point of art.

1215
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: And some people aren't gonna like it, but I appreciate

1216
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: the fact that he was like, if you don't like it,

1217
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 2: that's fine. He didn't go, what about this is PC

1218
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 2: culture while y'all trying to tramp on my freedom of speech,

1219
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: I have the right to do this. He was basically like, Yeah,

1220
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: those people have a point too, you know, not fuck them.

1221
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: You know, as most people, you know a lot of

1222
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: people when they get criticized on that art are just.

1223
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: Like, fuck these people. I actually like that response.

1224
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean people are gonna like the video or like

1225
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: him or any of that shit, but I thought it

1226
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: was a great response. Heavyweight says at this point the

1227
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: nine Donald Glover's genius is non black excellence. One of

1228
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: the things I've loved about Atlanta from Jump is the

1229
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: way they broach serious subjects and then move on. In

1230
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: that second episode the season one of Mentally Ill, man

1231
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: is dancing and drinking out of toilet. Everybody's laughing, the

1232
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: cops are greeting him like friends. He spits a little

1233
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: toilet water on the white cop and the cop mediately

1234
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: pulls his stick and starts beating the man. Every black

1235
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: man in that room looked traumatized, and then they moved on.

1236
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: And that's an aspect of everyday black life that we

1237
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: don't often see explored on TV or movies. This qualification

1238
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: of black artists really bothers me because there's no one

1239
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: way to be black. You pointed out many hypocrisies or

1240
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: the critiques, and I understand art won't be consumed the

1241
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: same by all, but it feels like another hurdle we

1242
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: have to jump that no one else does. Yeah, you

1243
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: said it all, and yeah, Atlanta has always had violencing.

1244
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: It was just really weird when I saw people talk

1245
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: about how much they they like or love Atlanta but

1246
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: then said this video was too much. I'm like you,

1247
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: like you're lying, Like you're lying or were you just

1248
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: so fucking like what it?

1249
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just weird.

1250
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: It's just fucking because like a car ran over people

1251
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: in a parking lot. You know, a dude gets shot

1252
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: in the first episode, a dude gets beaten up by

1253
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: the fucking cops, and you know, a mentally ill man

1254
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: gets beaten because we don't have and there's commentary behind it,

1255
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: but it's never like message. But you're like, yeah, we

1256
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: don't actually treat black people who deal with mental illness

1257
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: like white people. They beat this dude and they knew

1258
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: him enough to know his name and to know that

1259
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: what he does, and they beat that dude immediately. Like

1260
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: it was like it was more punishment than it was

1261
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: about control of him. And that shit happens all the time,

1262
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: you know, Like it's just wild. I don't know, it

1263
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: just felt like people was lying. I'll just leave it

1264
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: at that. We had the poe did you like that

1265
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,479
Speaker 2: this is American video doors? And then let's see, twelve

1266
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: percent didn't watch it, four percent didn't like it, eighty

1267
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: four percent did like it.

1268
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: T which, hey, you're not gonna catch them all. But

1269
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: if I can get.

1270
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: Eighty four percent of people to like what I create,

1271
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: I feel like I did a good job in our podcast,

1272
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: very black audience. So this isn't some like white people

1273
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: love this shit, you know what I mean? Like I

1274
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: know that this means black people, you know, in general

1275
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: at least that fuck with the kind of shit that

1276
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: we're on was like, yeah, I like that shit anyway,

1277
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: go ahead, Oh y'all need me to refresh? Okay, oh wait,

1278
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: not for me, says my nerve. Anybody else, anybody else

1279
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: in my bad just caring sometimes will do this. One

1280
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: person says it and then she like reset. Is anybody

1281
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: else getting the t pain? Cause I will refresh if

1282
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: y'all need me to. It's no big deal. But okay,

1283
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: everybody else could okay, okay, all right. Dorr says I

1284
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: like DG's video because I found it interested in different.

1285
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: In general, I respect artists trying to do something different.

1286
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: It feels respectful to the audience, even if it's not

1287
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: immediately Well, Seve, did the video make me feel good?

1288
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 5: No? Do?

1289
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: I have all my thoughts and feelings about it straightened out.

1290
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: Also know, but even Donald Glover came out said this

1291
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: video is about how y'all always dancing? And what about

1292
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: black Even if he did come out and say this

1293
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: videos about how y'all all dancing?

1294
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: What about black or black crowd? I would still think

1295
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: the video was interesting.

1296
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: It would be worth looking at the video and his

1297
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: statement and talking about what was communicated versus the visuals,

1298
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: et cetera. Yeah, man, I saw somebody saying y'all on Twitter.

1299
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: He said that hashtag average activism isn't doesn't work and

1300
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: people need to go out and register the vote and

1301
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: lobby da da da da, And somebody was like, and

1302
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: y'all pay me to like his video.

1303
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 6: After he said that, and I was like, but nigga,

1304
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 6: y'all did need to register the vote, and what the fuck?

1305
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 6: Then twenty sixteen, you haven't like he was right, Fuck yes,

1306
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 6: vote and do hashtag.

1307
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: The problem is just not an ultimatum, but nigga do

1308
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: both the fuck? Uh k't be living in Trump's American

1309
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: motherfucker's still out here talking about don't tell me to vote,

1310
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: Like God damn, this shit is stupid. Now, just do

1311
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: just fucking vote. Man, It's the one thing they don't

1312
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 2: want your black ass to. Dude, you wanta be revolutionary,

1313
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: go in there and vote and get this shit changed. Sorry,

1314
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: do what you want with your vote. I'm sorry, do

1315
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: what you want. I mean, y'all want to live in

1316
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: this shit, y'all go with this. Then I'm just gonna

1317
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: have to be cool.

1318
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1319
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't have any control of anybody's vote but mine.

1320
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: But goddamn, like, niggas still mad about some shit. I'm like,

1321
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: but he had a point anyway. Dre says, I've seen

1322
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 2: this video multiple times. It seemed like a toned down

1323
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: version of Spike Lee's Bamboozle. I think the video will

1324
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: be in the American zeitgeist for a while since it's

1325
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: basically debuted on SNL. Talk about racism when it Oh

1326
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: that's that's the other part of got lost in this

1327
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: nigga his SNL.

1328
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: Magnafique. He was good. He was real good. That lawyer's

1329
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: kid killed it.

1330
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: That orange Juice Jones joint killed that shit, the joint,

1331
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: even the joint in the bed with the girl that

1332
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: didn't know how to fucking talk sexy. She kept taking

1333
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: it one step too far till it was gross.

1334
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: He was good, Like damn, he was good.

1335
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: The only thing I was like kind of mad own

1336
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: was like the opening monologue. Oh but that was more

1337
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: of a joke on just you know, is he gonna

1338
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: is he? Like is he too art sitting now to

1339
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: be to make a fun of himself or whatever?

1340
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: And he basically make fun of himself. But yeah, man,

1341
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: he was good. That that Star Wars ship Keenan Sogarero accent.

1342
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: Beasted Beast it Like, that's that's the same music video

1343
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: they Didndos Got Therapy.

1344
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 5: Yes, And the thing is it was actually lit to

1345
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: actually like the songs, like yes, it would be serious and.

1346
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: Like yes, like I'm sorry, man, I hate that day

1347
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: got lost in the conversation because like he did a

1348
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: good job. That's now, I hadn't really done a good

1349
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: solid like I liked every skitch.

1350
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 3: Show in a long time, and I liked every skit anyway.

1351
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 2: Then it was front page the c in there, which

1352
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: repelled it father than other artists that also depict the

1353
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: such things. I mean, come on, this is Lando called

1354
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: Rissi in the symbol talking about racism on Prime NBC.

1355
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: Viewing great video. Yeah, yep.

1356
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: And I do agree with people and understand when they're like, well,

1357
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: how come other people aren't treated as geniuses like this

1358
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 2: and their work? Is it picked up and people don't

1359
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: resonate with it? Why is it always black men that

1360
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: kind of get this level of treatment? Yeah, y'all right,

1361
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean white people typically view all the sorry, view

1362
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: all the blacks as men, right right right, you know,

1363
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: but Beyonce has a critical commentary and shit, and they

1364
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: definitely got a lot of attention and crossed over because

1365
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: she's the biggest star in the on the planet, you know,

1366
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: making that that that turn. But you know, I don't

1367
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: know that Donald Glover at that that this time was

1368
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: on anybody's Beyonce radar level, and he was able to

1369
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: take the world by storm for a video on Saturday

1370
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: Night and people calling him genius and shit, And I mean,

1371
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: that's definitely because he's a man, I think. I don't

1372
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: think that's hard to say. But even with that being said,

1373
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: I thought the dude should have been getting called a

1374
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: genius two three years ago. I mean, Jas Frankle was

1375
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: getting called a genius five years ago. I don't think

1376
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: it's a stretch. With all the shit that Donald Glover does, writing, producing, directing, acting, singing, rapping,

1377
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a genius two years ago, but

1378
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: they could, Like I've realized during this week that when y'all,

1379
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: when other people talk about genius, what they really are

1380
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: talking about is when are white people gonna recognize somebody's

1381
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: genius or when are the culturals, like guys black, When

1382
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: are black dudes gonna give up and say this is

1383
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: genius and that person genius? And the answer is they

1384
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: never gonna. You can't wait on them.

1385
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 3: You can't.

1386
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: The only reason Kanye West had the genius discussions because

1387
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: he kept saying it himself. If he wouldn't have been

1388
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: calling himself a genius every fucking five minutes. White people

1389
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: would have never crossed their mind to call that nigga

1390
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 2: genius period, Like that's that's the beauty of whiteness.

1391
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: Lakita says, I love this video. Been playing it all week.

1392
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: I don't know which I like more.

1393
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: The video of the song the beat goes and I

1394
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: love his dance breaks can't help but dance along. I

1395
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: also see how it can be triggering. I guess it

1396
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: just didn't hit me in the same fashion. My fifteen

1397
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: year old and I watched it together for the first time,

1398
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: and she looked at me, noted approval and said and

1399
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: said I liked it. I said me too. There hasn't

1400
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: been a day yet I didn't watch it. I love

1401
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: his creativity. Thumbs up from me and min basically, all right,

1402
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: let's see what else we got. MC hands so sixteen

1403
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: seventy six basically laugh every time. So we got some comments.

1404
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 2: Logan two x one says, oh, this is in my

1405
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: using my husband's account. What the restaurant manager did over

1406
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: Yelp review was really scary. I often don't even bother

1407
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 2: leaving reviews from mediocre restaurants, but that changed when I

1408
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: was trying to become a yelp Elite member.

1409
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: Rie you at Karens.

1410
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: To try to become one, you get invites and special

1411
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: promotions to different.

1412
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: Events like restaurant openness.

1413
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: So I started leaving reviews for all the restaurants that

1414
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: were just okay, and reviewing places I frequent a lot,

1415
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: like the bank and in my grocery store. The manager

1416
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: of the ray Fars Cafe at Disneyland actually contacted me

1417
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: because of one of my reviews the service is great,

1418
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: with the fools mediocre. He just apologized and asked me

1419
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: to take a survey to tell the restaurant with or

1420
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: what they can do to become better and receive a

1421
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: qu pard for taking a survey.

1422
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about.

1423
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: But then I found out that I couldn't become one

1424
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: because I actually have a business on Yeop Full Circle

1425
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: do all the services. I know, I pronounced that right

1426
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: because I'm really wrong because I don't know how to

1427
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: say it. Dula Doula services?

1428
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 3: Is that right? Anyway?

1429
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: But I do enjoy leaving reviews for really awesome places

1430
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 2: and this or if something is exceptionally bad.

1431
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I've heard about that. Yell Elite thing.

1432
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: I feel like I got some type of invite to

1433
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: do it, and I was just like nah, or maybe

1434
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to take all the steps anyway,

1435
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: I just kind of like doing what I'm doing for

1436
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: right now.

1437
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1438
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 5: I just post pictures some restaurants I leave reviews on,

1439
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 5: but I love posting pictures.

1440
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: For an artist.

1441
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: Twenty five minute says that fear of the police is

1442
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: really justified. Just last year, I was pulled over for

1443
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: speeding on my motorcycle, which I was It was a weekend,

1444
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: I was feeling good.

1445
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 3: My hand was a.

1446
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: Bit too heavy, so I falled past the officer doing

1447
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: sixty five to forty five. Immediately saw him and his

1448
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: lights came on. I pulled over because I knew I

1449
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: messed up. By the time he pulled in behind me,

1450
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: I had my helmet off and was leaning against my bike.

1451
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: He asked if I knew I he pulled me over.

1452
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: I said yes, I was doing sixty five to forty five.

1453
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: I apologized my whitest voice and gave him my Corneus

1454
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: cooney a smile right having to perform him to know

1455
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't a threat. He seemed very relaxing that it

1456
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: was actually cool. He asked for my info, so I

1457
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: reached for my backpack and pulled it out because that's

1458
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: why I came important in for a wallet insurance phone

1459
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: while riding. Before I could pull the backpack off my hip,

1460
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: he jumps back and says, WHOA put his hands on

1461
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: his gun? My hands shot straight in the air. I

1462
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: started saying sorry repeatedly. He ended up taking my backpack

1463
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: off my back and getting it.

1464
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 3: My info is.

1465
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: Out himself and I refew and I refused to put

1466
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: my hands down. I was twenty five on the side

1467
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: of the road crying because I thought I was gonna die,

1468
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: right yeah, man, Like I still like. One of the

1469
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 2: videos that haunts me the most when they have all

1470
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: these videos of black people getting shot by the cops

1471
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: is the black dude that got shot by the cop

1472
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 2: who was told to get his license from inside the vehicle.

1473
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: The cops started shooting him. He didn't kill this guy.

1474
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: He started shooting him.

1475
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 2: As the black man was getting shot, he was saying,

1476
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what did I do?

1477
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? What did I do?

1478
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: And that one haunts me a lot because I'm like you,

1479
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean, since he had to beg for his wife

1480
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: from a person that's shooting him because they were unreasonably

1481
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: scared of this man who was following the direct order

1482
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: from him, Like, how did in his mind did he

1483
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: imagine someone getting their wallet out of their car that

1484
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: after being told to do it? That wasn't like, why

1485
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: would you shoot anyone for that? So but I just

1486
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 2: remember how that black man couldn't even be angry and.

1487
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 4: Had to apologize for getting fucking shot.

1488
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm apologizing to you for shooting me for no reason.

1489
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: D Raj pah Stun says. Mckhannon's Priceless Firestars Sugar Pop says,

1490
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all are doing, but in my house,

1491
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: Mother's Day is all about leaving Mammy alone so I

1492
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: can sleep in and play PS four in my pj's

1493
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: in peace.

1494
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: All damn day.

1495
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: Good Mother's Day for my mom is gonna be her

1496
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: coming here tomorrow and doing the podcast with us live,

1497
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: so ten am, we should see y'all. Do white women

1498
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: stop for you when you walking in the parking lot?

1499
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: Yes all the time, only sometimes and pretty much much

1500
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: never a percent said yes.

1501
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: All the time.

1502
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 2: I assume y'all are white people only sometimes fifty two

1503
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: percent of y'all and pretty much never forty percent. I

1504
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: know I was right about this, uh, because I'm taking

1505
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: only sometimes pretty much never. I'm putting them together, all right.

1506
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: Mom says, maybe because I wear a job and often

1507
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 2: with my kid. I've never experienced someone almost hitting me.

1508
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 2: I usually walk into a store like an indignant white woman.

1509
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: If you hit me, I'm sewing your ass. Pedestrians had

1510
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: a right away, except when I was on the campus

1511
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 2: of my HBCU Alabama A and M and out, and

1512
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: it was usually dudes. One guy tried to use it

1513
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: as a way to get my number, like, no, negro, what,

1514
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I almost hit you girl, But uh, now

1515
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: that you're laying in your own blood, I gotta.

1516
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 5: Ask after you get out from the hospital, give me

1517
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 5: a call.

1518
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if you ain't, you clearly ain't got

1519
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 2: nothing to do tonight because you're gonna be in the hospital.

1520
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 3: So if you'll like to go out sometimes.

1521
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 4: If they don't try me with your murder.

1522
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 3: Right, if you get through this, give me a call.

1523
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: Dre says, I feel like I got a stop most

1524
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: of the time, since I'm usually walking a cute white

1525
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: dog named Bentley. They kids be looking at him and

1526
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: I'd be like, sorry dog when they asking they pedal.

1527
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good point. Sam G says, I'm in

1528
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 2: Oka knowledge of past, so it's a little different.

1529
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 3: Everyone is involved with the military.

1530
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: So they are usually they usually had turtle vision as

1531
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: concerned with the law, abidy et cetera. But for sure

1532
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: when I was in the states Man, they will run

1533
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: your ass over trying to get to that pumpkin spice latte,

1534
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:33,879
Speaker 2: won't They.

1535
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: Ug slipping all over the gas pedal.

1536
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: And the last episode for the week was Property Niggas.

1537
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: That's the these names, which is funny because Potmatic was

1538
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: having an issue with iTunes at the same time that

1539
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 2: I put this episode out, and so everyone was hitting

1540
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 2: me up all day, like Rod.

1541
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,520
Speaker 3: I can't see the episode. I can't see the episode.

1542
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 2: And then my paranoi y'all was like, why did I

1543
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: name it niggash? I too was trying to stop poverty,

1544
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: stop the black guy who tests. Because we finally put

1545
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: niggas in the title, I'm like, I did not put

1546
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 2: a pound sign in it, Like what the fuck?

1547
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: And I found out that it was It wasn't my fault.

1548
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: Ce six says just wanted to say that I missed

1549
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: poetry song lyrics at the beginning of the show. If

1550
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: you haven't been doing it because it's less work for you,

1551
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 2: I understand that's really all it is. I'm like, it

1552
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: takes less time to start the show if I don't

1553
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: look up the lyrics.

1554
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 3: But I don't think I'm the.

1555
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: Only one who actually does enjoy them and doesn't fast

1556
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: forward to the rest of the podcast, don't. I don't know, man,

1557
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: Not too many people wrote in to say they missed them,

1558
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: but I appreciate you. See sick if maybe if more

1559
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: people write in and say they don't like it or something,

1560
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 2: or maybe I'll make it to poll for the episode,

1561
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 2: and if a lot of people say they prefer to

1562
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: have the lyrics, then we'll do it. But Mill seventy

1563
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: three says, I must say, I too, was a black

1564
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: nerd in high school, or as we called them at Jamaica, nerds.

1565
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 3: I was off with as fuck.

1566
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 2: And this was the late eighty so nerd meant a

1567
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: different thing from now. Flash forward to the day, and

1568
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't date black women. Actually I don't date any women.

1569
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: As my wife, a black woman herself, was frowned upon

1570
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: that yeah me personally. I also don't blame they black women,

1571
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: white women, any women, any men, any any people of

1572
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 2: any type, because I am married and uh, I you

1573
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: know that's just how that works if you do it

1574
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: right supposedly, I mean in this type of marriage, some

1575
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: other types of marriages.

1576
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 3: You know, you do what you want to do anyway.

1577
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 2: All just to say that those blurred dudes bitching about

1578
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 2: black women are just informed by white supremacy. It don't

1579
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: want to admit it. That's all it is. And I'm

1580
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: sick of it, and I'm tired of it. I don't

1581
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: I will not entertain it on this show. I won't

1582
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: entertain it in my life. Get the fuck out of

1583
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: my life. It's just I'm sick of motherfuckers being like

1584
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 2: racism is wrong and I'm sick of it affecting me.

1585
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: But white people are right, Black girls.

1586
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: Are angry, ugly, mean, all this shit, like why would

1587
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: you perpetuate that as a black man?

1588
01:13:58,800 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: Why would you do that?

1589
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: And didn't expect me to respect you as my brother? Well,

1590
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 2: what kind of person does that?

1591
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1592
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: Not to mention you probably believe a whole lot of

1593
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: fucked up shit about other black people, But you just

1594
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: because you have to walk around this world as a

1595
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: black person.

1596
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 3: You would rather have solidarity.

1597
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: In our brotherhood quote unquote than with the rest of

1598
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: the folks. You know, that's all You opt in and

1599
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: out when you want, and that shit is disgusting to me.

1600
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: So but yeah, it's a lot of people using excuses. Oh,

1601
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: one black person was mean to me, so this black

1602
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: girl would not even mean. This black girl wouldn't go

1603
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: out with me. I decided I liked her and she

1604
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 2: should go out with me, and she said no, And

1605
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 2: that means black girls are mean and I should only

1606
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: date white women for the rest of my life. Meanwhile,

1607
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: I know some racist don't happen in your black ass,

1608
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: because some races don't happen to every black person in America.

1609
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: You didn't go all white people are evil. I'm never

1610
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: gonna fucking see a white person. You're telling me none

1611
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: of these white people that white family know, white person

1612
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: has ever harmed you, but a black girl did and

1613
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 2: you can't let it go. But you somehow ingratiated yourself

1614
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: into white people's families and shit, and you didn't feel nothing.

1615
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 3: Fuck out of my face.

1616
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 2: Man, just say you don't like black women because you

1617
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: racist and leave me the fuck alone. There's people in

1618
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: interracial relationships that don't talk like this, So it's not

1619
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: even about like, oh yeah, well, you know all these

1620
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: brothers in these interlation relationships, I mean obviously black women

1621
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: making them do.

1622
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: It's a lot of people like I've dated.

1623
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: Black women, I've dated all kinds of women, but this

1624
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: is the person I fell in love with. But I'm

1625
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: still Black lives matter. I'm still you know, uh, you know,

1626
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 2: listening to black women, I'm still da da da da.

1627
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: You know, They're like, there's people like that that exist,

1628
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 3: So you don't.

1629
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: Have to be this ignorant, stereotypical, anti black version of

1630
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: whatever you call black nursery.

1631
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: Uh you don't. You chose that, Yes you did.

1632
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: They don't want to examine what their preference for non

1633
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: black women comes from, so they use these sites. These

1634
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,879
Speaker 2: slights experience as teenagers. All teenagers are awkward and unkind.

1635
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: To use teenage behavior to inform one's adult life is

1636
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: disingenuous at best.

1637
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: A meal Yeah they're old now too. It was shit I've.

1638
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 2: Said when I was younger, when I was you know,

1639
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: mostly jokes, shit that I thought was funny. And stuff,

1640
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: and you get older and you're like, oh, I see

1641
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: how that could have been real harmful and fucked up.

1642
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm glad I don't think that anymore, you know, But

1643
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: now you're old dog? What's up you still doing this?

1644
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: Oh? Man?

1645
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 2: Even he says, I ran into an old high school

1646
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: class made a few years ago. He's a black guy

1647
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: who was a nerve. But we were friendly and locker

1648
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,879
Speaker 2: was next to mine. We'd often talk about anime comic books.

1649
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 2: He asked me to the prom and I said no.

1650
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: So when we reconnected, he told me that he didn't

1651
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: go to the problem because I turned him down and

1652
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 2: they put him off to girls of girls like me

1653
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: for a long time. He proceeded to show me his

1654
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: beautiful family. His wife was Asian. I just smiled a

1655
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: congratulated him, and kept it moving. I guess he thought

1656
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 2: I would be upset or something. Yeah, you live in

1657
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 2: your whole life hoping they'll set some black women that

1658
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 2: have that really don't give a fuck like Nigga. I

1659
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: told you know we were fifteen. He congratulations, you happy

1660
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: at thirty?

1661
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 3: Good? Now here's a kicker.

1662
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 2: I went to the prom with another black guy who,

1663
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: even though he played sports. Was also on the nerdy side.

1664
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: You see, the guy who I turned down was nice,

1665
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: but he smelled like cat pee and musty armpits all

1666
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: the time. His clothes always stayed, and more often than not,

1667
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: his breast smell like cool Recht ritos and Dodo. I

1668
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 2: don't I didn't want to spend my prom and I

1669
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: hold him my nose. But somehow he held that grudge

1670
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: without an ounce of self reflection. And the funny thing

1671
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 2: is he still smelled like that after all these years. Damn,

1672
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: I feel bad for his Asian wife. Then another funny thing.

1673
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: His name was Roderick too.

1674
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 3: Ah God.

1675
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: So the moral story is a lot of guys probably

1676
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: rejected not because they were nerves, but because they were whack.

1677
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: But I guess it's easier to blame black woman rather

1678
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: than have a little self reflection.

1679
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 3: Rock right right.

1680
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 4: That's the thing. A lot of them dudes complaining with

1681
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 4: whack ass niggas. A lot of them.

1682
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 5: Dudes complaining they probably talk crazy to these black women.

1683
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 4: I mean, they not the young girls.

1684
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 5: But you said some crazy shit and they responded to

1685
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 5: you with your anti black shit, and they was like, nigga,

1686
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 5: would I'm not gonna deal with and they the problem

1687
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 5: for responding to your whack ass language. To them, they

1688
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 5: got the right to respond. And also that's the ownership thing,

1689
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 5: you feel like, I like you. I actually had the

1690
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 5: right to put my dick in you, and how dare

1691
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 5: you refuse me?

1692
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 4: Also, you were fifteen, you're fucking thirty and forty now.

1693
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 3: Also the bar solo for men.

1694
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: A lot of men classify being a good man by

1695
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: an absence of being another type of man, Like there's

1696
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: not like they're not telling you what they would do

1697
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: for you while they're special, while they're good. What they

1698
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: know attributes is I'm not a thug, so therefore I'm

1699
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: a good black man.

1700
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 3: Well do you expect women like? Do you? But do

1701
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 3: you actually respect women?

1702
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: Or when a woman tells you she's into some nerdy shit,

1703
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 2: do you question if she's really a nerd and whatnot?

1704
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: When you're talking to black women, are you telling them, well,

1705
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: that's because y'all are angry and this, that and the other.

1706
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: But you're not like the rest of them, you know

1707
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like little shit that where it's like you're.

1708
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 3: Not a good dude.

1709
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 2: I'm reading this comic book it's really good. It's called

1710
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 2: The Death of Love. Three issues and I think it's

1711
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: only gonna have five issues. It's an image comic. You

1712
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: can download it off an image you can buy it

1713
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: from them. But it's about the nice guy syndrome. And

1714
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: this is dealing with a white dude, but it's about

1715
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: the nice like the nice guy syndrome. And I'm gonna

1716
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 2: get on one for a second, and y'all just bear

1717
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: with me. But I was thinking about this shit the

1718
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: other day after we did the show the problem with

1719
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 2: the black nerd awkward dude who was ugly and didn't

1720
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 2: keep up with himself in high school and shit and

1721
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 2: didn't find love and had some horrd horrible attitudes.

1722
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 3: Towards women that still persisted this day.

1723
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: They blame it on their high school, but they still

1724
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: have these I can't believe it's only high school when

1725
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: you still have these same hang ups about women. Right

1726
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: Here's why I realize, you know who else can relate

1727
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 2: to being ostracized, told they're ugly, said society doesn't value them, stereotyped,

1728
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: fetish sized, but then punished for not meeting up to

1729
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: the fetish standards of your body. Black women, black girls

1730
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: during that age, Like, our plight compared to black women

1731
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: is not even the same plight.

1732
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: You know, these dating.

1733
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 2: Sad shits don't lie like that shit carries over with

1734
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 2: women for the rest of their fucking lives. And it

1735
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 2: because men are socialized to not have the language to

1736
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 2: convey our very real.

1737
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: Fragility in a way.

1738
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: But also but I don't mean it in the pejorative way,

1739
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: but also like the hurt and the pain that we

1740
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 2: go through too, because we don't really have the words

1741
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: for it. We have been allowed to be We have

1742
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: been put in a box where the only allowable expressions

1743
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 2: of our pain are what violence and anger and jokes

1744
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: like there's not a lot allowed for men.

1745
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying women don't allow it.

1746
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying society, which is something that gets you know,

1747
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: structured by men, has been like this is what manhood is.

1748
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: Your young boy, you get rejected by this girl, you

1749
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: should get angry about it because you don't have another outlet.

1750
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 2: You can't cry, you know. I remember when I was

1751
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: in like I want to say, seventh grade, I wrote

1752
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 2: a love letter to this girl.

1753
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 3: It was so long, it was ridiculous.

1754
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 2: I drew shit in it. It was like, guys, it

1755
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 2: like my handwriting was terrible. So I typed it and

1756
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: then like all right, and I typed it on a

1757
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: dot matrix printer. Okay, you're taking it way back, buddy,

1758
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 2: Like when I say I was a nerd, I fucking

1759
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: mean that shit. Okay, it's not a joke for me.

1760
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 2: So I printed this shit out like my dad scene.

1761
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: I didn't want to know how I see it, but

1762
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: I was using my dad's computer and it was a

1763
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: big deal to use a computer back there. So I

1764
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: like printed out and I folded up this letter. I

1765
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: did want them to say that you have foot notes listen.

1766
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: I had every I had poems in there. Okay, I

1767
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: had poems.

1768
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 3: I had like I.

1769
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: Had everything you can think of, and I was drawing

1770
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 2: ship because I could. I used to could draw really good.

1771
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: I haven't tried it in so long, I can't say

1772
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: I can, but I used to could draw really good.

1773
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: I used to have like like I had the fucking

1774
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: colored pencils, like not you know, not just drawing with

1775
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: a pin. Right, And then uh, I wrote this letter.

1776
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: I may have even typed it incursive like fine, but

1777
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: I but I definitely typed it. I do remember that

1778
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 2: because my handwriting was terrible and I essentially just wanted

1779
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: her to go with me. I don't even know why

1780
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: I made this specific girl like this is the girl,

1781
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: you know. I think maybe because we were in the

1782
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: same advanced classes or something.

1783
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was ridiculous. It was. It was

1784
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 3: fucking ridiculous, But I liked her, and.

1785
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: I wrote this letter and I gave it to her,

1786
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,839
Speaker 2: and I was in class and I was sweating bullets

1787
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: and I was fucking nervous.

1788
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 3: I immediately regretted giving her the letter.

1789
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: A second I did, and like, I know, like because

1790
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 2: she said like not like in front of in the class,

1791
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: in front, and I was in the back. And so

1792
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 2: I saw her like at the end of you know,

1793
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm watching her the whole class, like maybe she'll read it,

1794
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: Maybe she'll read it later, maybe she'll like turn around, smile,

1795
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: let me know if it was good to you or not.

1796
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,520
Speaker 2: And instead she told her friends about it. It seems

1797
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm assuming some things there. She told her friends about it.

1798
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know who were teenagers, seventh grade, teen,

1799
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: I don't remember thirteen, okay, is that right?

1800
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: Okay?

1801
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: So I was probably like so I was probably like twelve,

1802
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 2: because remember I was I was a grade below and

1803
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: I mean I was a grade above where I should

1804
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: have been, and.

1805
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 3: So I was probably like twelve. She was like.

1806
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: Thirteen or fourteen. So she took the letter and I

1807
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: don't even think she opened it. I think she just

1808
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: saw it me. I was like, I don't know what

1809
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: the fuck's in this pizon. Oh and I sprayed cologne

1810
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: on the letter, y'all? Yes, I did, guess I did.

1811
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean, who else want to get coloane from my house?

1812
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: I sprayed cologne on this letter?

1813
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 3: Do you understand? I sprayed? I cared. Okay, you went

1814
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 3: all out, nigga, Come on.

1815
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, she thought of writing the trash right in the trash,

1816
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: like right in front of me.

1817
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, and you know what, I didn't

1818
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: think to myself, black bitches hate nerves like me.

1819
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: I never in my life ever, Oh, only a white

1820
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 2: woman will treat me right from now on.

1821
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 3: I never even thought that shit, you know what I mean.

1822
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: It was just kind of like, oh, she didn't like me,

1823
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: and it's so like I was crushed.

1824
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 3: Because you're in seventh grade. There's not a lot of

1825
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: life that you're living.

1826
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 5: You know, like life is just beginning and everything is

1827
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 5: like crucial at that period of time.

1828
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 4: A lot of parents don't understand how children at that

1829
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 4: age they're only one.

1830
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 5: When they going through something, it's like, oh, well, the

1831
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 5: world is ending. What is happening, and you can't get.

1832
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: Like caught like so you don't have other things to

1833
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 2: get caught up in and distracted by. But one of

1834
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 2: the things that came from that that was good. Like

1835
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: obviously my feelings were hurt, you know, but I had

1836
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: no reason. I don't even, like I said, I picked her,

1837
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't even know what. I don't think we'd ever

1838
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 2: had a real conversation, you know what I mean. Like

1839
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: I was just nervous, Like I was always nervous around her,

1840
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: and then it would be awkward conversations in the first place, right,

1841
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: and then it was like I just liked it because

1842
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: I thought she was she was cute and was in

1843
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: my grade.

1844
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 3: That's it.

1845
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: And like I said, she threw it in trash.

1846
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 3: I don't inject anything into what she was.

1847
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 2: Like one, I know I didn't think, but two, like

1848
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: I like my hygiene wasn't terrible or nothing. But but

1849
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: the thing is, I don't inject anything into her reason.

1850
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: It could have literally been anything. Could have she's not

1851
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: comfortable with that kind of attention. She could have been

1852
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: not allowed to date. She could already had a boyfriend.

1853
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 2: There's so much shit I didn't know about this girl

1854
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: because I just a nerd kid in school that doesn't

1855
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 2: know what the fuck he's doing. And in my mind,

1856
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 2: it was, Wow, what a mean thing to do. And

1857
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: you go through all the stages of you know, like

1858
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm mad and I'm sad, I'm hurt, I'm uh you know,

1859
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 2: a stage degree, right, I'm I'm gonna get revenged because

1860
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 2: you're gonna see how dope I am. And then you're

1861
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: gonna see that you made the bad decision and all

1862
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 2: this you know, stupid shit that you think as a kid, Right,

1863
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: But uh, the thing was, I grew up, So why

1864
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 2: would that one moment with this woman who literally this

1865
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: girl who literally owed me nothing.

1866
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: She didn't owe me nothing.

1867
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: She's not even politeness like cause it's you know, I

1868
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: know some people will like this. Some people will probably

1869
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: hear this story and feel like she was kind of

1870
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: wrong for that, like she should have said something. I

1871
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: don't think she was wrong at all. If she just

1872
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: wanted to throw it in trash, like, nope, not doing this.

1873
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: That's good, that's fine, you know what I mean, that's

1874
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: her prerogative. Everyone has the right to do that, like

1875
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: the one owes your audience or politeness or thank you

1876
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: or any of that. She Hey, fuck it, I don't

1877
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: like this, dude, this is awkward. I don't eve wanna

1878
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: talk to her throwing the shit in the trash. And

1879
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: she was fine and that that was absolutely fine. There

1880
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 2: was nothing wrong with that. But like I said, my

1881
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 2: bigger point is I lived in the house where my

1882
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 2: dad's biggest goal in life wasn't to turn me into

1883
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: like some hard rock man, you know what I mean.

1884
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 2: My dad shows affection to me and my brother, even

1885
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: when we were kids. My dad wasn't afraid the kisses

1886
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:57,759
Speaker 2: on the cheek, kids on the forehead. You know, it'll

1887
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: sound funny now, but but it actually in all serious

1888
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 2: I think it was kind of good. But you know,

1889
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 2: my dad would play these like we would play games

1890
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: in the house and it would be like some like

1891
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 2: affectionate shit, you know, and it would be like some

1892
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: of us corny and ridiculous, like stick pillows in our

1893
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: pants that act like like look in my ass or

1894
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 2: some stupid shit like that. But it also taught us like, yo,

1895
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: a man doesn't have to just be this solemn figure

1896
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: that comes home, drinks a beer, watches sports, doesn't like you,

1897
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk to you unless a game is on,

1898
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: and sends you to your room. You know what I mean, Like,

1899
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 2: he's not just a dude that got trapped with their

1900
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 2: mom and his family and he's fucking miserable, you know,

1901
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 2: like at least that's the household the way I proceed

1902
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: it as a kid, so like I was able to

1903
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: be hurt and cry and not feel like I'm letting

1904
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: this dad, I'm letting someone down, or I have to

1905
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 2: hurt this girl, or I have to say something to

1906
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: her that well, you know, I had to cuss her out.

1907
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 3: I never felt that way, but I think the male.

1908
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Role model in my life didn't model himself in a

1909
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: way that made me feel like that was a reasonable

1910
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: thing to do. All that to go back for a

1911
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: circle and say, I don't think a lot of these

1912
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: men have the language, especially as boys, but even now

1913
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 2: to say I was hurt, you know not because what

1914
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: they're saying comes from a place of entitlement, not a

1915
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: place of I was rejected because I can relate to that.

1916
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: I can have empathy for somebody that was felt like

1917
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 2: a social outcast.

1918
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:31,839
Speaker 3: I can have empathy for that person.

1919
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: But I can't have empathy for the person that is

1920
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 2: sounded like a school shooter. I was a social outcast

1921
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: and now all these bitches gotta die. Well hold up, now, now,

1922
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 2: hold up. I can't go with you on that, and

1923
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: now you're the bad guy. But if you were to say, like, man,

1924
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 2: this time sucks for me. I thought I was gonna

1925
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 2: have one experience and I had a whole nother one

1926
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: and I haven't gotten over it. I'm like, okay, cool,

1927
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: Well you need to get some therapy, some counseling, join

1928
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 2: the group to some people that have gotten over it somehow,

1929
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 2: and move on. But men, we are so caged in

1930
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: and boxed up. We don't talk to we don't talk

1931
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: get therapi. It's like that we don't uh you know

1932
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: what women do all the time because the society is

1933
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 2: the opposite for women. It's pen picking and knocking them

1934
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 2: down and criticizing them so much that women are always

1935
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: opening criticism in a way that's to sometimes.

1936
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 3: A lot of times very unhealthy.

1937
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Steve Harvey has a career because of women

1938
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 2: who are so fucked up by patriarchy.

1939
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 3: They're like, well, maybe this dude can tell me what

1940
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 3: to do. You know.

1941
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 2: But you know men that have careers telling men how

1942
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 2: to deal with women, they're called pickup artists. Like it's

1943
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: not that these these these industries don't exist for men,

1944
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: but look at the way they take place. Pick Up

1945
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: artists trick you into no teach you how to trick

1946
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 2: women into how to have sex with you.

1947
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 3: They don't want to.

1948
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 2: Trick you in a getting a good relationship. They don't

1949
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 2: want to trick you into being a good person. They

1950
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 2: don't want like they want you to get give them

1951
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: money to teach you how to fuck women that are

1952
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 2: quote unquote out of your league.

1953
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 3: That's it.

1954
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach you how to go there and say

1955
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 2: something mean to a woman so that she'll have bad

1956
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: self esteem and she might fuck you.

1957
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 3: That's what we teach men. You see.

1958
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 2: It's like even our avenues for quote unquote help are

1959
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 2: evil as fuck, So we don't we literally don't have

1960
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 2: the language.

1961
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 3: But if we would pay attention to what how women talk.

1962
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 3: The language already exists.

1963
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 2: We pay attention to ow LGBTQ people talk about our

1964
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 2: feelings included. The language already exists. But that privilege and

1965
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 2: that anger and that socialization is too fucking powerful for

1966
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 2: a man to be. Like this shit hurt my feelings.

1967
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 2: It made me cry. I felt like something was wrong

1968
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 2: with me. And if I were to turn around, say, look,

1969
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: nothing was wrong with you, but nothing's wrong with these

1970
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 2: other people either. You know what I'm saying, like nothing like,

1971
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 2: no one owed you attention, no one old you.

1972
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,560
Speaker 3: That's not why you should go to school.

1973
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 2: And think about school and think about friends and socialize

1974
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: and not feel this pressure to have to have sex,

1975
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,879
Speaker 2: which ultimately you're only having sex to validate your manhood.

1976
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 2: You're not even having sex because you're like I love

1977
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 2: this girl and I want to be with her or

1978
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 2: I want to be a I want to like partner

1979
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 2: with this person and take care of them and do No,

1980
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 2: you want to have sex as a conquest, you just

1981
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 2: happen to not be capable of it, so therefore it's

1982
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: everyone else's fault, you know, Like when they talk about

1983
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 2: those nerds, those jocks and shit, they get all the

1984
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 2: women they're always like, oh, these they will fuck people

1985
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 2: from the football team. Even the nerd girls were fucking

1986
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: people from the football team.

1987
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, you just sound like you want to

1988
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 3: fuck them.

1989
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 2: You didn't say nothing about you didn't say nothing about

1990
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm looking for the soulmate nerd girl. You just feel

1991
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,560
Speaker 2: like they owe you the attention because you're supposed to

1992
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 2: be on their lane, you know, So when I see

1993
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 2: that kind of shit, like, that's what really throws me off,

1994
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 2: because I'm like, the entire conversation can't happen because the

1995
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: way we even teach boys how to talk girls how

1996
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: to talk, you know, using which is still how we

1997
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 2: teach we don't, you know, we.

1998
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 3: Straight down those gender lines.

1999
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 2: We the boys don't have the words, and even when

2000
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 2: they're grown ass men, they don't even have the self

2001
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 2: reflection ability to say, maybe it's on me, Maybe I

2002
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 2: should have been over this by now. Why am I

2003
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 2: still so fucking angry at black women? And I it's

2004
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 2: because it's not even like these dudes are out there

2005
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 2: like prospering and shit, like, why are you still making

2006
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,839
Speaker 2: so much of what you claim to be happiness about

2007
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: hurting black women?

2008
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 3: You know why? Is it so much about hurting LGBTQ people?

2009
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 3: Why is it so much.

2010
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 2: About hurting you know, like it's about hurting somebody as

2011
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: a man to validate your worth and and that's a

2012
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 2: part that we really got to get over.

2013
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 3: So anyway, we had one voicemail did answer.

2014
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Oh the poe was will Megan Kelly show be canceled?

2015
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Sixty now say yes?

2016
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 5: No?

2017
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 2: All right, I think that's everything for feedback on the site.

2018
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 2: We did have one voicemail and I forgot the open

2019
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Skype to start the show. I should have been opening

2020
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 2: it while I was opening my mouth just now saying

2021
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: all that ship.

2022
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 4: You want to read emails that comes up?

2023
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try to read the emails first. That that

2024
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 2: that'll be the plan. But but yeah, just I think

2025
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of black men, specifically because

2026
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 2: I care about us, you know, I won't you know,

2027
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: I care about us. So I think a lot of

2028
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 2: us specifically could really benefit from learning how to talk

2029
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 2: about ship because I think there's a case to be made.

2030
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 3: Wait set up was unable to.

2031
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: Close all applications, and close all applications use the foulsand

2032
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 2: the updated I can't even open Skype.

2033
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: God damn it. Sorry everybody. Uh No, Skypeboys smells today.

2034
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 2: I'll play it tomorrow. I'll try to play it tomorrow.

2035
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 2: My mom will be on the show and play at tomorrow.

2036
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I do wonder if if people could

2037
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, if men can learn how to talk

2038
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 2: about this ship and we be better off, because I

2039
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: really do feel like there's a lot of ship that

2040
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 2: gets translated to anger for men and then they they're

2041
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 2: violent and ship like that, And it wouldn't happen that

2042
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 2: way if we if men were allowing themselves, because I

2043
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 2: don't feel like society's making us be this way, Like

2044
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 2: there's pressure, but it ain't no force, you know.

2045
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 3: And that's the other part with women. The reason women have.

2046
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 2: Better language for this, it's not necessarily women are quote

2047
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 2: unquote better people.

2048
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 3: Women have been forced.

2049
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 2: To have to do this because fucking men are terrible.

2050
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 2: It's like, if I tell you some shit too harsh,

2051
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: you'll fucking kill me. So I gotta come up with

2052
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 2: a way that includes you in the problem so that

2053
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 2: we can fix it together, even though it's really just

2054
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 2: your problem, like me, right, you know what I mean,

2055
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: Like it's really on you. But women have had to

2056
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: do that to live, you know what I mean. And

2057
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: men we haven't had to do that like black men.

2058
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: Sometimes we have to do it with white people, but

2059
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 2: we've never had to do it with our own women.

2060
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 2: You know, Black women have to do that shit in

2061
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 2: their lives, like with the people that quote unquote love them.

2062
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: I gotta be careful, you know, this motherfucker might kill

2063
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 2: me because I said something the wrong way, you know.

2064
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 2: And so women have it by necessity, just they're better

2065
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 2: at communicating these ekey emotions and conveying some of these

2066
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 2: great spots that that men are like.

2067
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 3: It's either anger or it's funny, and that's it between all. Right,

2068
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:06,560
Speaker 3: Now to the emails.

2069
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 2: Laura says, Hello, Roy, I don't know if you've already

2070
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: seen talked about this, but has anyone observed the intersection

2071
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 2: between Kanye's recent erratic public behavior, Kendrick's Pulitzer, and Beachella.

2072
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 3: Kanye's petition for.

2073
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Relevance seems rather conspicuously timed as to say, as if

2074
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,719
Speaker 2: to say, I come in the internet breaking white gaze,

2075
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 2: white praise too? Or am I oversimplified his pathology? Keep

2076
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 2: up the awesome work, Yo, to vote it Auntie Maine.

2077
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 3: Yo, I don't know. I don't know. I think, well,

2078
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 3: you know, I do know.

2079
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 2: This conspicuous timing is everything with Kanye More because Kanye

2080
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 2: comes out of the woods to promote his album and

2081
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 2: then it goes back, so he is supposedly about to

2082
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: drop an album. So I think that has a lot

2083
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 2: to do with it, and I wouldn't be surprised this

2084
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 2: is complete speculation.

2085
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,839
Speaker 3: Wait, no, it's not, he said in the interview.

2086
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 2: He's off his meds for the creative process of making

2087
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 2: the album. So for me, I'm not surprised that the

2088
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 2: uratic behavior or the comments because it does feel like,

2089
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he rejoined Twitter and everything, and I guess

2090
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, this is the best promotion because

2091
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 2: everybody's talking about it. But I don't know, man, I

2092
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 2: just I don't feel comfortable making that nigga the center

2093
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 2: of black consciousness for these conversations.

2094
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:25,919
Speaker 3: He's just too out there for me. Hey y'all, VK.

2095
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 2: Says, Hey, Rod and Karen, my fourteen year old Marvel

2096
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 2: fanatic daughter and I finally went to see in Finny

2097
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 2: War last weekend.

2098
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 3: My husband went with a oh wait, what did I

2099
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 3: just shrink that? For all right and move that.

2100
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 2: My husband went with us, but he'd already seen it.

2101
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: We successfully spent the last two weeks dodging spoilers from

2102
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 2: the husby of Facebook and YouTube. Lord of Mercy, we

2103
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,679
Speaker 2: were not ready. Probably it's more of a low half mercy.

2104
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 2: We were not ready. My kids had a complete hissy

2105
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 2: fit while the credits were rolling, because she's a two

2106
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,799
Speaker 2: challenge spider Man stand. She kept saying, I'm done with Marvel.

2107
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 2: Were breaking up. They didn't have to do that to them.

2108
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 2: We were walking to the car, trying to get ourselves

2109
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,600
Speaker 2: back together, contemplating the meeting A life a past a

2110
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 2: group of three ladies talking about a voice talking in

2111
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 2: a voice caught my ear.

2112
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 3: It was you.

2113
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 2: What your back was to me, but I definitely knew

2114
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 2: your voice. By the way, your hair is beautiful, this

2115
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 2: must be if you care. I wanted to come over

2116
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: and give you a big sister hub, but I didn't

2117
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 2: want to intrude on your family time.

2118
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 3: You must have been with my mom and Layla.

2119
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 5: Oh oh yes, yes, yes, I probably was because it

2120
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 5: was me Layla and your mama went It was a

2121
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 5: Saturday Sunday.

2122
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: I commute forty five minutes each each way, every day,

2123
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 2: and you and Roy helped me endure the Charlotte traffic.

2124
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate how you use your voices and how you

2125
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 2: always root for everybody black, especially HBCUs. We are an

2126
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: HBCU family. Hugby and I are Fairvuel State alumni. Attitude check.

2127
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 3: Brock O Pride. Daughter number one graduates from JCSU next week.

2128
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 2: Dot A number two at ten Xavier University in New

2129
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 2: Orleans and daughter number three area it says she's definitely going.

2130
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's what I'm talking about. Wakinda forever, keeping keep

2131
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 2: doing the Lawd's work out there. Bronco Pride, Thank you

2132
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 2: came over.

2133
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so nice. Uh, Timmany that recognizable.

2134
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 2: You got a very recognizable voice. Uh, Tiffany Wrights and

2135
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 2: uh you called it. This reminds me of the statements you

2136
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 2: made on the This Is America episode sixteen seventy five,

2137
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 2: and it's a George Johnson wrote this for The Root,

2138
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 2: called black genius a privilege afforded only the straight black men. Uh,

2139
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 2: thank you again for what you and Karen for you

2140
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 2: and Karen for your thoughtful, patient and formed discussions on

2141
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: black culture and our black lives. As we navigate this

2142
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,759
Speaker 2: place we call America. Piece, Doctor Till, thank you, doctor

2143
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 2: doctor Tim And uh yeah, I read this piece, Like

2144
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 2: I said, Man, it's so weird because I agree obviously

2145
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 2: that if it's afforded to black people, it's gonna be

2146
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 2: basically the straight black men. But at the same time,

2147
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 2: it's it's you so sparingly towards black people, and it

2148
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 2: feels like it's only that way because white people are

2149
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: doing it, Like I want everybody examine themselves for a second, like,

2150
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 2: fuck these white institutions before a second, check your own mentions,

2151
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,799
Speaker 2: your own histories, your own podcast, your own mental rollo decks.

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01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 2: How often are you calling these people genus? Right? Like,

2153
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 2: how often are we making sure that we recognize the

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01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 2: brilliance on our own platforms, in our own lives and

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01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: go Beyonce is a fucking genius. Rihanna is a fucking

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01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 2: marketing genius as well. Donald Glover is a genius. Tyler

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01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 2: Creator is a genius. You know what I'm saying, Like

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01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: it shouldn't just be because some white person told me

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01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 2: this person's a genius. You see what I'm saying, Like

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01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 2: there's some complicity to it that is us as well,

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01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 2: and then I don't And honestly, I just don't think

2162
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 2: and don't expect, and I hope I'm wrong.

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01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 3: I don't expect these white folks to come around on this.

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01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 2: I don't expect black men to come around on it

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01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 2: and be like this gay person is a genius, because

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01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 2: I just don't expect it to happen. So it's kind

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01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 2: of up to us to boost our own folks, you

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01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So they get the recognition they deserve,

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01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: get those flowers while they can still smell them, because

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01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 2: it ain't happening no other way. But yeah, it's definitely,

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01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 2: like I said, I definitely feel like it comes to

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01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: black people first. I mean black men first, straight black

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01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 2: men first, specifically right and then quote unquote trickle down

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01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 2: of Falcons Diva right saying or Kimberly right saying, long overdue.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Rod and Kerr.

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01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 2: After my twenty eighteen resolution to stay current on my

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01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 2: podcast Listening Your Girls Falling Behind to give you an idea,

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01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 2: this email has been in my draft for weeks. It

2179
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 2: started with Hey, just hey, I love y'all. Thank you

2180
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 2: Rov for podcast for your cold, then thank you Ryd

2181
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 2: and Cam forgiving us shows like you're sick.

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01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 2: I think you both are feeling better, not sure though

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01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 2: I'm still behind. Yeah, we're feeling better.

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01:42:59,560 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 4: Yes.

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01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 2: I probably would have forgotten to send this email, but

2187
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 2: for some reason, Facebook was showing me a bunch of

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01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Rods posts.

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01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 3: From Thursday morning on Saturday. Yeah. I don't know what

2190
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 3: that was about algorithm. Anyway, I know you guys hear

2191
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 3: it all the time.

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01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 2: I just wanted to drop a line to let you

2193
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 2: know much I appreciate you, especially the both of you

2194
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 2: doing the podcast while sick. I can hear it in

2195
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 2: your voices, and it made appreciate you guys even more.

2196
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 2: My sister and I have been back and forth to

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01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 2: North Carolina twice in the past three weeks. My uncle

2198
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 2: passed away and my aunt is in the very early

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01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 2: stages of Alzheimer's.

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01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 3: Oh our condolences yo.

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01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 2: My grandma had to mention it towards the end, so

2202
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 2: I definitely can sympathize. So we've been trying to get

2203
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,839
Speaker 2: things settled and make sure my honor is doing okay.

2204
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 2: My sister doesn't like driving them the highway, so as

2205
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 2: the driver, we listen.

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01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 3: To what I want.

2207
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 2: During our first trip, I put you guys on it.

2208
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 2: She mentioned that her guy now listens to the podcast.

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01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: She also mentioned that she bought that Peppermint Soap. Oh,

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01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it was something she heard

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01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 2: from the Balls Deep during one of our road trips.

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01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, Mike, Mike. What was Mike's last name? Why

2213
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 2: the fucking Brown. It's the most common name. Mike Brown

2214
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 2: had an episode of this very show. I think the

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01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: name of it is Peppermint Soap, and he went off during.

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01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 4: The and it actually wonderful soap.

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01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: But yet during a groupie tale, he went off, it

2218
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:18,440
Speaker 2: was so good.

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01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 2: You can listen to By the way, you can listen

2221
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 2: to all our old episodes for free on the blackoutips

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01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 2: dot com. So if you just go there search Peppermint Soap,

2223
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 2: it should come up and just the the play button

2224
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 2: is below the pole of the episode and it's and

2225
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 2: all of them are free, uh right now, so go

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01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 2: enjoy it.

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01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 3: Peppermint.

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01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think it was something she

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01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 2: had on Boss Deep during one of the road trips

2230
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 2: this last trip up, she said, I know you want

2231
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: to listen to your buddies lol, So y'all are my buddies. Now,

2232
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 2: the podcasts have been so great and there's so much

2233
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 2: I wanted to comment on. Rather than dig deep in

2234
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 2: the past, I'll just say keep doing what you do.

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01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 2: During one of these n C trips, Hope I'll get

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01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 2: to meet with you guys for lunch or something. I'm

2237
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 2: actually considering taking some leave from work and staying with

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01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 2: my aunt for a few weeks. All right, well email us,

2239
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 2: we'll see what we can do. Anyway, let me head

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Speaker 2: to my SPIN class.

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01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 3: Wait.

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01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of Spin, my gym plays hip hop videos during class,

2243
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 2: with the not so recent Easter Ray Mess. I really

2244
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 2: started paying attention to the women in the videos, and

2245
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 2: you're right, Rod, they're overwhelmingly other looking. But then my

2246
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 2: instructor put on Chocolate by Big Boy and I was like, yes,

2247
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: that video is full of beautiful, dark brown women. I

2248
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: hope she plays it today, although today is the Mother's

2249
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 2: Day Spin, so it will probably be tanged.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm done. Sorry for the long email.

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01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm actually going on vacation tomorrow as long at much

2252
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 2: needed vacation. I'm taking my niece to Jamaica for twenty

2253
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 2: first birthday, so hopefully I'll get all caught up while i'm.

2254
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 3: Sending by the pool love y'all.

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01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 2: All, Thank you. Enjoy yeah, enjoy the vacation, Enjoy your niece.

2256
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 2: All that stuff in Jeorgijamaica sounds like a good time.

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01:45:54,720 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 2: Last email, Melissa says, how to my favorite podcasts riding Cans. First,

2258
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: I want to send a shout out to my little

2259
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 2: cousin Nigel, who's a resident of Charlotte but graduating from

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01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 2: the HBCU Chaining University today, so I probably won't be

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01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 2: tuning in love today.

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01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 3: Yo, a lot of people graduating today. Congratulations are you graduating?

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01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 5: Good luck founding the job, come on, giving a lot

2264
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 5: of making a lot of mama's happy.

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01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 3: Sorry for that white man getting you off stage now.

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01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 2: Of course I love you guys, But since I've become premium,

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01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder, how in the world are these

2268
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 2: two amazing people capable of putting out so much content

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01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 2: every week. They're only twenty four hours per day, and

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01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm no mathematician, but what you guys do is way

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01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 2: past twenty four hours a day. And maybe I'll watch

2272
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 2: too much Westworld the superhero movies. But I'm starting to

2273
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: think my faves are not humans a I think they

2274
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 2: are robots. I mean, really, you guys have lies, you cook, go,

2275
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 2: you go out to eat. I've seen the pork bellies

2276
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Houses possible. Well, I'll be continuing to listen,

2277
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 2: and I always love you, even if you reveal that

2278
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 2: you are the children to think those Jenkins A thousand,

2279
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 2: a thousand kids, Emoji's kids and face to my phase

2280
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 2: Melanie humility and uh, we just work hard, but we

2281
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 2: also work smart.

2282
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 3: So but I'm also learning to compare to manage my

2283
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 3: time a little better too, because it is a lot

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01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 3: of work.

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01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, we have a podcast we need to

2286
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,879
Speaker 2: be on in a few minutes. Uh so we'll.

2287
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 3: Talk to y'all later.

2288
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening, and until then, I

2289
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 2: love you.

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Speaker 3: I love you. Wow.