1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's go. That's Giants. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Get on my Giants bubble, give me some job. Part 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: of the Giants podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Let's roll. Welcome to our usual Wednesday edition of the 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Giants Tottle podcast. I'm John Schmelk, joined as always by 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: Sean O'Hara's all brought to you by Citizens, the official 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: bank of the New York Giants, showing by Christmas my friend. 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah you too. How's the back? You're a right. You 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: didn't have to put anything together? 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: I did. I I had a huge princess castle that 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: I for the daughter. Santa was very generous with her 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: as well, so it was it was a fun, nice, 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: fun day in the smell castle. How about you? 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Do you put the decals on two? 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: I did, did not mess up one of them, twenty 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: for twenty on the decaut. I was really proud of myself. 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. That was happening at like twelve 18 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: thirty at night too. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Those things, I'm very particular, like I will read the 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: instructions like two sometimes three times to make sure because 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: if you do one piece in the wrong order, like 22 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing is broken. You got to bring it back. So, uh, 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: congratulations on all that. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. What was the big gift for the 25 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: kids in the house. 26 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: Old got my son in Xbox. So this is funny 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: as the kids started getting to get older. Now now 28 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: the putting together part is electronically. So now it's like 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: when you're when they're young kids and it's little stuff. 30 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: It's manual labor. I gotta put this in here, I 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: gotta figure this out. I gotta get some tools to 32 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: put it. 33 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: Now it's all make sure you have the inputs on 34 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: the TV set up correctly. 35 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Right, and and internet like the Wi. 36 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: Fi was, oh yeah, you issue. 37 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: And then it's like you got down to the software. 38 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: You got the Xbox. My son's over there, like, daddyeah, 39 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: come on, he's like chomping at the bit is it 40 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: ready yet? It's at fort download like and he's staring 41 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: at it like thinking that's going to speed it up. 42 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was much more of a technological dad 43 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: necessity this year. But I kicked his button Madden in 44 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: the very first game, so I felt like I did 45 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: my part. He was talking junk. Yeah, daddy, I'm gona 46 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: kick your. 47 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Did you go back and play as like the two 48 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: thousand and seven Giants. 49 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: I thought about it. He said, there's even create like 50 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: an ultimate team, but that would have taken another download. 51 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: So we just went right into the quick game play. 52 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: And would you believe that of all the teams that 53 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: he picked to play for, he picked the Birds the Eagles. Yeah. 54 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I so he caught two beat downs, the physical one 55 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: that I gave him for picking the Birds, and then 56 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: I just out of spite, I said, I'm taking the 57 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: Giants and I'm gonna kick your butt. So first play 58 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: of the game, I busted up a nine yard running 59 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: for Saquon right up the middle, and then I won 60 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: thirty three to twenty. So take that Eagles. 61 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Little duo right behind the center. 62 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah no, I just half back way, half back way. 63 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm boom right out there. Actually, Darren Waller came in 64 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: and got a good block on the nose. I think 65 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: we might have to run that play. I am not 66 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: seeing the Giants run the way and play with Darren Waller, 67 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: but now we might have to put that in. I'm 68 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Davis. 69 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: And we got to spend Christmas afternoon the evening together 70 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: here covering yes Giants. 71 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: And was quite lovely quite quite. The cuisine, yes, very good. 72 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: A lot of places open on Christmas Day, but somehow 73 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: Don Sperling found a way to get grub Hub delivered. 74 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: Yes he did. He did a really good job. It 75 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: was a good spending time with everybody, and the Giants 76 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: look twenty three at halftime, I think all this kind 77 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: of in the back of our head. Even did a 78 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: verbalize that like in Philadelphia twenty three at a half, 79 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: here we go again, yep, But it didn't feel like 80 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: that type of dominant performance by the Eagles even in 81 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: the first half of that game to me. And the 82 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: Giants end up coming up with you know, Tyrod Taylor 83 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: comes in. We'll talk about that. But for me, the 84 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: big thing with the takeaways again, and that has kind 85 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: of been what's booed the Giants to a lot of 86 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: their victories this year. Sean, And you add the good 87 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: play by Isaiah Simmons to push Zachaus into Boston Scott 88 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: to force the fumble and the kickoff. Then theia Dorri 89 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Jackson picked six and that's what really got the Giants 90 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: back into that Eagles get. 91 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Huge played by Isaiah Simmons, like he literally threw him 92 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: like into another zip code and then he recovered the fumble, 93 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: so that that was a huge play. And you're right 94 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: at halftime, you know, everybody was reaching for the egg nog. 95 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Twenty to three. This is about to get ugly. Let's 96 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, let's find a way to get back in 97 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: this game. And that is exactly what you're looking for 98 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: right out of the opening kickoff in the second half, 99 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: and then to be able to punch it in a 100 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: couple of plays later. That that was huge that first half, 101 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, to your point, like the offense just could 102 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: not stay on the field. They were one for eight 103 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: on third down, and that was really what prompted the change. 104 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: But it was also self inflicted. Like I go back 105 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: to the Giants go for it on on fourth and 106 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: one and Daniel Bellinger doesn't block us on Reddick like 107 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: he more nice right in the backfield tackle for loss 108 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: that should not happen. There was a drop by Darren 109 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: Waller on third and seven. Those two plays, now, all 110 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, offense stays out on the field. You 111 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: get a little rhythm. 112 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: That was what over the middle on the slant you're. 113 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Talking about, right, Yeah, early on I think it was 114 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: the first quarter. Yes, yes, those were like self inflicted 115 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: plays where okay, the offense is kind of stuck in 116 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: neutral here. 117 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: And miss tackles was also self effl They missed a 118 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: lot of tackles on that first half and then the second 119 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: half to be I. 120 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Mean, DeAndre Swift looks he's a powerful runner, but there's 121 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: there's opportunities there and you know, not just with him, 122 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: but we had a hard time bringing it out in 123 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, like Pinnock was came in unblocked on a 124 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: blitz in this game, and yet Jalen Hurts is able 125 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: to scramble around and run around and complete a pass 126 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: instead of a sack. Loss of yards ended up being 127 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: a positive play for them. 128 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: Fa had to play in the backfield that too, in 129 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: the second half where we hadn't get them. 130 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: So that was that was tough, you know, but I 131 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: think you have to credit this team and the coaching 132 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: staff for their ability to come out in the second 133 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: half and make a game of it. Because statistically, when 134 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: you look at offensive production Giants versus Eagles, the Eagles 135 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: had almost five hundred yards of total offense. Like this 136 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: game should close. The pick six helped that turnover right 137 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: to start the second half, and look, the Giants are 138 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: right back into the game, and they found a way 139 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: to get back into it. So I think they're looking 140 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: at the film too and saying, man, we had it. 141 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: We should have won that game. Like, despite all those stats, 142 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: despite the fact that you know, Philly rushed the ball 143 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: really well and got some big plays. You know, I 144 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: go back and I look at you know, fourth and four, 145 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: we decided to go for it. They call some bogus 146 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: penalty on John Michael Schmidt's false start on the center 147 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: because of the head bob. He's been doing that all game, Like, 148 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I was completely bogus. I have no idea what they 149 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: were calling him on because he didn't even bring it 150 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: up and then snap it right away, like he's been 151 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: doing that all game. He brings the head up, which 152 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: you signal to everybody, Hey, it's coming, and then you 153 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: go left or right depending on what the call is 154 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: in the huddle. And the fact that one guy jumped 155 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: that should have been a first down for us. 156 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: And by the way, and I think when I rewatched 157 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: it on Coach's tape, what was telling to me You 158 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: didn't see one Eagles player pointing at the center. No, 159 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: after the off side, They're like, they're all looking at 160 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: Jalen Carter like you idiots. 161 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: You know, his head's coming up. 162 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: Literally, Josh sled at his three point stands put his 163 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: four heads to the ground. Yeah, like that, And it's 164 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: like none of the Eagles were even pointing at Schmid's 165 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: after the playbook. Can I get it? That's been a 166 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: point of emphasis. We saw it on a Thursday night game. 167 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: They got the Steelers punter for that right against the 168 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: Patriots a couple of weeks ago, which you know, was 169 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: a tough call. I think they even called Kelsey on 170 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: that later in the game on something on a false start. 171 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: Too, they called Yeah, they called him for moving the ball. 172 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: Okay, that was moving the ball in that one. But 173 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: I know, what's the point of emphasis, But that's a 174 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: rough call. 175 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: But to your point, if all four of the defense 176 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: Limon had jumped, then you could say, hey, the center 177 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: drew them off because he, you know, did some hurky 178 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: jerky movement. But the truth of the matter is like 179 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: every time John Michael Swittz he did that, even after 180 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: that penalty, he still did the same thing. 181 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: It's almost like they were looking for because it was 182 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: a fourth and four. 183 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I mean that was tough timing. And 184 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: then you know, later on in the game, Gihants go 185 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: for a third and one, great play design. They've got 186 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: wall or wide open. It could have been a touchdown, 187 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: and Tyrod just can't get enough on the ball, so 188 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: and he ends up dropping that pass. 189 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: And then there was also a third and short to 190 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: Barkley too. On that little out from the backfield that 191 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: Tyrod threw short. I think Barkley might have rounded the 192 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: rat a little bit. I didn't quite get it down 193 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: the line. And the fourth down that was either a 194 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: third or fourth down. 195 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: That was a fourth down play right after that third down. 196 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a little bit earlier. But 197 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: either way, it was two key plays where they had 198 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: players wide open and and and we'll get to Tyrod, 199 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, short on it a little bit. You couldn't 200 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: convert that. And I really thought in the first half, 201 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Sean they designed the offense to try to mitigate the 202 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: Eagles pass rush, right. I mean I counted five or 203 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: six wide receiver screens. You really didn't have any two dropbacks. 204 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: And I think once they got down a little bit, 205 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: I think in the second half, they said, all right, 206 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna let Tyrod throw it down feel a little bit, 207 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: and I think the offensive line actually did a pretty 208 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: good job picking up a lot of that Eagle pressure 209 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: in the second half. 210 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: This is the best I've seen the Giants offense line 211 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: play against Philly in a long time. And I think 212 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: you have to give credit to Tyree Phillips, who had 213 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: a heck of a game at right tackle, because when 214 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: you go back and look at the last couple of 215 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: times we played the Eagles, it's four sacks. It's five 216 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: sacks in the playoff game. We couldn't block us on 217 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: Reddick and look, Evan Neil had his struggles against him 218 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: in those games. But Tyree Phillips was very stout. He 219 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: was one of our best linemen. Like I think he 220 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: might have even played better than Andrew Thomas, which is 221 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: for a lot of people maybe surprising. I also want 222 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: to throw out there, Tyree Phillips was on the Philadelphi 223 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: Eagles squad. We activated him from there, so he went 224 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: against these guys in practice, so maybe a little familiarity 225 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: helped him out, but he was very physical. I thought 226 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: they all did a great job overall and protection just 227 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: one sack in the game. To your point, that was 228 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: emphasis get the ball out quick, some chips by the 229 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: tight ends, and that continued out. Saquan was very active 230 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: in the pass protecting. He did not have a lot 231 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: of free releases. Every time I saw him going out 232 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: for a pass play, he chipped an end, chipped somebody. 233 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: He made sure he made contact with somebody on his 234 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: way out, and I think that Tyrod. One of the 235 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: reasons why he got the NOD going in the second 236 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: half and why he's the starting quarterback now is because 237 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: he was decisive that ball was either coming out of 238 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: his hand or he was going to run for it, 239 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: and he ran for a first down a couple of times. 240 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: Obviously the player where he kind of gets hit justin 241 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Hugh has to come in and defend him a little 242 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: bit ended up being offset penalties. But he was decisive 243 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: that backfoot hit the ground if he didn't like what 244 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: was going on with the coverage. He was running and 245 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: getting out of the pocket, not sitting back there holding 246 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: onto the ball. So I think that ended up being 247 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: a big part of the game. And then look he 248 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: great throw to to Darius Slayton for that that big 249 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: play touchdown. 250 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: The outside shoulder, a really nice past. 251 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's he has shown you know, look, 252 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: he started fifty plus games. I think he's won a 253 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: playoff game as a starter as well. So he's more 254 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: than capable. You know. I think his ability to throw 255 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: that deep ball gave the Giants a different element offensively. 256 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: You're down twenty three a half time, you got to 257 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: throw to win, you gotta throw to get back into 258 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: the game. I think that was what prompted the decision 259 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: to make the move. And you know, look, I know 260 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Giants fans, you know, there's some people that are maybe 261 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, what does this mean 262 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: long term? Listen, here's all it means. We went from 263 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: Tommy Cutlets to Taylor Ham. All right, two very good 264 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: jersey products. All right, we're sticking with the jersey theme. Here, 265 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: give me some tailor Ham. I don't know what the 266 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: signal is for that, but we'll find one out. 267 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: It's really good, well done. I gotta tell you, that's 268 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: a right good. 269 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Before I just made it up. 270 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: You love turf, you're good at it. So you started 271 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: turf Fizz. Business grows, your savings grow, become the most 272 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: celebrated name in terms, Are you ready for all that 273 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: life brings? 274 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Total Pod Guys is brought to you by citizens the 275 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: official back of the Giants from game data. Everyday, Citizens 276 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: is made ready for Giants fans with insides, guidance and solutions. 277 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: Learn more at citizens bank dot com. And Brian Dable 278 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: on Wednesday announces Tyrod Taylor will start a quarterback this week. 279 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: Thought he did some good things in the second half. 280 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on them going with Tyrod here? Now? Moving forward? 281 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of funny because we were doing this 282 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: show when they announced that Tommy was the starting quarterback, 283 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and I went on this whole rant about how I 284 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: think it should be Tyrod because he's more experienced. 285 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: We were voting on Wednesday this week, which helps. 286 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Us, right, But I was making a pitch for why 287 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: I think Tyrod makes sense. 288 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: And so just go back and listen two weeks ago 289 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: and that'll be all. 290 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: I'll try to regurgitate it in the short version in 291 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: the cliff notes right now. But as I mentioned, like, 292 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Tyrod is decisive, and I think that's what you want. 293 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: You want a quarterback that knows where he's going with 294 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: the ball, and once he realized, all right, that's the 295 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: right read. Boom ball is out like that is where 296 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: your offense can perform the best. And yeah, it's all 297 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, It's like your process around your computer. You know, 298 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: like if you get a computer that has a faster speed, 299 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be able to download the content quicker 300 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: and you know, upload your software. 301 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: So that's the same thing and brings a full circle 302 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: to the original conversation. 303 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there we go. So I think for Tyrod, 304 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, look, he's I mentioned the experience as well. 305 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: He's won a lot of football games. I think he 306 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: understands what it takes to win. He takes care of 307 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: the ball. I also think, look, his down the field 308 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: accuracy is pretty is pretty phenomenal. He's always had that 309 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: and every single time he goes out there, even during 310 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: the preseason, he throws a great deep ball. He's got 311 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: great anticipation with that, and I think the receivers love 312 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: that aspect too, because it's there's nothing more frustrating as 313 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: a receiver. You're open on a go route, you just 314 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: ran forty or fifty yards and he either doesn't throw 315 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: the ball or he misses you with the throw. So 316 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: I think That's a big part of it. And you know, 317 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: look for Tommy DeVito, there was a spark when he 318 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: came in and they were on. You mentioned the momentum. 319 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: You want to ride that momentum. You know all right 320 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: that things have kind of gotten a little stale, and 321 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: I think defenses are testing Tommy DeVito a little bit. 322 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: When you have a young quarterback. There was a stack 323 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: going in Philly. No rookie quarterback had won in Philly 324 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: since Dak Prescott in twenty sixteen, So that's how good 325 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: they had been. Why is that, well, they get a 326 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: lot thrown at them. You have a veteran quarterback in 327 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Maybe you're not getting as many blitzes and 328 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: as many different looks from the defense because they know, hey, 329 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: this guy can play, he could see it, he can 330 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: hurt us with it. Yeah. 331 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think Tyro will do a good job 332 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: moving forward. 333 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with 334 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: citizens So go to that retreat. Knew you moves to 335 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: the country. Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. 336 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: Are you ready for all that? 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And I think the 344 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: one thing, despite that one big takeaway in the pick six, 345 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: you never got the sense in that game against Philly 346 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: that the defense was gonna be able to get the 347 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: stop they needed in the big spot against that Eagles offense, 348 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: whether it was DeAndre Swift, you know, run the running 349 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: that format of offense at the end of the game 350 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: down the field, whether it was Jalen Hurts to your point, 351 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: breaking the pocket making a throw to you know, DeVonta 352 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Smith making a throat to AJ Brown, or Dallas Goddard 353 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: who had a big game even a maybe a tougher 354 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: test this week against the Rams. You get any of 355 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: the metrics epa success or eight yards whatever, they are 356 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: a top six to seven offense in the league. And 357 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: if his numbers are a little bit better, Matthew Stafford 358 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: is playing at an MVP level. Even if the numbers 359 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: to me might not match that well. 360 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: And just look at what he's doing with a rookie. 361 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: He quarter a rookie receiver in Poko Nakula, and nobody 362 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: thought Poko Nicula was gonna have even half the impact 363 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: that he's already had. And it started right out of 364 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: the gate without Cooper Cup, he missed the first four 365 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: games with the hamstring injury. Was on ir, I believe, 366 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: and yet Puko was making these explosive plays. So I think, yeah, defensively, 367 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: this is a huge challenge because Matthew Stafford will stretch 368 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: her defense. He's going to sling that rock like he's 369 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: gonna throw. He's gonna take the risks, he's gonna throw 370 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: the deep ball, and he's gonna give his receivers a 371 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: chance to make a play. Cooper Cup, I still think, 372 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: is one of the best route runners in the league, 373 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: and he is so dangerous because they move him around 374 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: so much and he does a lot of damage from 375 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: the slot. But you know it's not just you know, 376 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: deep balls for Cooper Cup or quick little hitches. He 377 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: runs the skinny slants like he's he's tough, like he's 378 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: not scared to go over the middle. 379 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: His strength and size against flat I think is interesting match. 380 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: You know, flats undersize and Cup as a slot guy's 381 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: like six two to ten. Yeah, he's a big dude. 382 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. He's physical with some of his routes, and he 383 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: kind of uses his body really well, text the ball 384 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: with his body really well, and he does a great 385 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: job kind of catching the ball away from the body, 386 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, which makes it harder to kind of knock 387 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: it out and defend. They also they move him around 388 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: a lot. They do a lot of pre snat motion 389 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: with him. 390 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: With everybody. 391 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: They caught Washington in his own coverage earlier of the season, 392 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: ran him in motion and they kind of lost him. 393 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how you lose Cooper Cup. But he 394 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: runs a wheel route up the sideline and he's completely uncovered. 395 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Nobody's even buy him, so Sean McVay. Look, people were 396 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: calling him Boy Wonder back when they went to the 397 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and played the Patriots. Everything is Bill still 398 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: built off the run, but he does such a great 399 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: job of layering all that Kyle Shanahan like. But Kyen 400 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: Williams has been explosive and he has been a juggernaut. 401 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: He's a running back for the folks. 402 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: That doesn't. He basically is the bread and butter right 403 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: now for the offense. Once he gets going, now all 404 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: that play action stuff works. So to your point, the 405 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: Giants couldn't close it out at the end of the 406 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: game and stop the underswift and get the ball back. 407 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: This is another good running offense. They're gonna have their 408 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: hands full trying to stop Kyen Williams. I will say 409 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: the different wrinkle with this Rams offense is you're not 410 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: worried about the quarterback runs, right Jalen Hurts, You've got 411 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: to have a defender. Hey, the quarterback read the zone, 412 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: read the quarterback, keep naked bootlegs. All those things are 413 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: in play with Jalen Hurts. Not so much with Matthew Stafford. 414 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: He's much more from the pocket. So I think pressure 415 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: on the quarterback is paramount here, at least against the 416 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: Rams of Matt Stafford. You know where he's gonna be. 417 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: They're not moving him around quite as much as that 418 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: Eagles did with Jalen Hurts. 419 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and speaking of which, we can talk a ton 420 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: about the defense against Eagles. Boy, they blitzed a lot, 421 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: Like I didn't look what the final number was at 422 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: one point one of the had him are like seventy 423 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: percent blitz rate in the game. They were bringing the 424 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 2: heat against Hurts. I don't know if you can do 425 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: that against Matthew Stafford. I think you you'll sniff those 426 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: out and he'll get those wide receivers one on one. 427 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a recipe for success this week. 428 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: I think they might have to back off on some 429 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: of that pressure stuff a little bit. 430 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, And to your point, I think Stafford he 431 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: likes the blitzes because now you know what I can 432 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: throw to a spot. You know. I go back to 433 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: a touchdown throw that he threw to Cooper Cup against Baltimore, 434 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: and Baltimore brings the all out blitz and he's got 435 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: an unblocked defender bearing down on him. He throws the 436 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: ball before Cooper Cup is even out of his break, 437 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: throws the ball to the back corner of the end 438 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: zone and just puts a little extra air on it 439 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup runs right underneath it. You can't defend that, 440 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: like it's basically a foot race between Cup and the corner, 441 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: and he's gonna win that nine times out of ten. 442 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: So Stafford, he's not scared to make those anticipatory throws 443 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: against the blitz when he knows all right, I know 444 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: I've got man coverage. A lot of quarterbacks love blitz 445 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: and blitz zero, which Wing Martine runs a lot of 446 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: because no, I know, I've got man coverage. So the 447 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: double moves are always in play. I think ironically for 448 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Wing Martindale, like one of the big plays for the Eagles, 449 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: did they didn't blitz so the third and twenty I 450 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: believe it was. It was a four man rush. We 451 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: don't bring pressure. So there's a lot of people that 452 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, you want to say, hey, why is he 453 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: always bringing blitzes and bringing pressure even if you don't 454 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: get the sack. A lot of times, what the blitz 455 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: does is it just forces the quarterback they throw the. 456 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: Ball quicker beat. 457 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: So if there's a blitz and you got an unblocked guy, 458 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: that ball's got to come out. If it's third and fifteen, 459 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: third and twenty, you assume ball's coming out. It's a 460 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: short throw. As long as we make the tackle, we're 461 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: off the field. So that could be one of the 462 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: instances where hey, we want to Blitzmat Stafford just so 463 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: he has to throw the ball quicker than he would like, 464 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: and we can't let those receivers get down the field. 465 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: And then finally, the Rams defense, Shawan and Sean McVeigh 466 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: gets a lot of credit and rightfully so, with how 467 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: this has kind of been turned around quickly. The job 468 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: Raheem Morris, their defensive coordinator, is done this year. I'm 469 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: going to throw some names out for fans. Michael Heckt, 470 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Christian Rose Boom, Quinton Lake, Kobe Durant, Ernest Jones, Jonah Williams. 471 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: Not the offensive tackle, the defensive lineman. These are all 472 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: starters on the Rams defense. I would bet most of 473 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: the people out there never heard of any of those guys. 474 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: There are a bunch of rookies, late round draft picks 475 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: that not a lot of people know. And look, Aaron 476 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: Donald's still there, big deal, and he's a monster, talk 477 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: about him. But this is not an overly I think 478 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: talented Rams defense. There should be some opportunities here for 479 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: the Giants to make some plays if they can plock 480 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. 481 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, when they went on their Super Bowl run, you know, 482 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a Pro Bowl roster. Jalen 483 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Ramsey out there, Aaron Donald, Bobby Wagner was there last year. 484 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: Like they always had these big name guys And to 485 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: your point, yeah, it's not a lot of guys other 486 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: than Aaron Donald. Then maybe a couple other guys that 487 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: you've heard of. But Akello wetherspoon YEP one of their corners, 488 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: number forty four. He's been a heck of a player 489 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: for them. He's bounced around in the league a little bit, 490 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: but he's made some big time plays. He is always 491 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: around the ball. He's kind of one of their stars 492 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: defensively at the corner position. But Aaron Donald really is 493 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: the focus when you're playing the Rams offensively. When we're 494 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: in the huddle, John and we get the plays called, 495 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: we break the huddle, all right, ready break We turn around. 496 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Everybody's looking to see where's ninety nine. Like if he's 497 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: lined up on the other side, you're like, yes, he's 498 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: not lining up over he's that much of a game change. 499 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: And imagine it's a center. That's the guy you're helping 500 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: on old game. Right, they're gonna turn the protection to 501 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: him and you're gonna be coming over there and trying 502 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: to help your guard. 503 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you try every chance you get. It's hey, I'm 504 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: gonna help out. I know I'm normally supposed to slide right, 505 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try to hang out, hang on my 506 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: left guard side a little bit, give him a little 507 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: bit of a post, not create all the space. So 508 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: you definitely try to kind of fudge your protection schemes 509 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: to help that guy out. But it's hard. It's hard. 510 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: Other than the center, you can't really give guards help, 511 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: like you can't put a tight end in there and 512 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: chip like you can if he's against a tackle. It's 513 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: hard for a running back to come in and swab 514 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: and chip on that. But you know, one of the 515 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: ways we would combat that is you get a guy 516 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald. You know, you kind of go back 517 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: like Warren sap back when playing in Tampa, it was 518 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: like a four eye technique. He was almost outside of 519 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: the B gap. When you get those really wide rushers, 520 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: the way you cheat that and the way you combat 521 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: that as an office line is the guard takes a 522 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: really big split, the tackle takes a really tight split. 523 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: So now you haven't shortened the corner for the tackle, 524 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: But now what you've done is you've tightened up that 525 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: big gap so he can't kind of trade and rush 526 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: in between the guard and the tackle. 527 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: Sooby wants to get in, he has to go towards 528 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: the center where the help's come in. 529 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: Right where your help is. But also he's you're widening 530 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: out the pocket, you know, if you don't take that 531 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: big split as a guard, and now he's got a 532 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: shortened corner and then he can kind of get in 533 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: between the Yeah, attack makes sense. There's that. That's one 534 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: of the tricks that you kind of do as a veteran. 535 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 2: Uh. 536 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: And then you try to you're at home, so you 537 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: try to hard count him, get him to kind of 538 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: get back on his heels and maybe get a couple 539 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: quick jumps. But Donald's done a great job and gets 540 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: a run too, So that's always a challenge. You run 541 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: at him, you run away from him. He's so quick 542 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: he can catch you from behind. So I would always say, 543 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: let's run at him, let's double team him. But he 544 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: is one of those werewolves, as Bobby Johnson calls him, 545 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: where he can wreck the game. You always have no 546 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: where he's at, you gotta find a way to double 547 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: team him if at all possible. 548 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 2: And look at the PFF tracking, he's actually been used 549 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: at defensive end as much as he has a defensive 550 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: tackle with. 551 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: The year moving around so they can't get sandwiched in just. 552 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: Right down left side too, so that he's going to 553 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: be all over the place. Off to keep an eye him. 554 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: Good stuff, a friend, all right, Thanks Johnny. 555 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: Johns on the podcast brought to you by Citizens, the 556 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: official bank of the Giants. 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