Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey besties.
Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're popping off on the
Speaker 2: biggest pop culture stories of the week with the co
Speaker 2: hosts of the Tea Time with Raven and Miranda podcast.
Speaker 2: You know them, you love them. It's Raven Simone and
Speaker 2: Miranda may Day. Is it petty to hide shower products
Speaker 2: from your roommate's guests? What's cancel culture insurance? And why
Speaker 2: are some celebrities buying in? And how do you really
Speaker 2: feel about your friend's private wedding vows. It's Friday, January thirty. First,
Speaker 2: I'm Simone.
Speaker 3: Voice, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side
Speaker 3: from Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 1: It is Friday, Simone.
Speaker 4: It is finally Friday.
Speaker 2: And even beyond that, it is almost the end of January,
Speaker 2: and it feels like this has been an eternal January.
Speaker 2: So bring it on February. I'm so excited to see
Speaker 2: what you've gotten store for us.
Speaker 3: January felt like an entire year in itself, truly, truly,
Speaker 3: But we've had so much fun this week. It was
Speaker 3: such a joy to have Neah Rouche back on the show.
Speaker 3: Her new book, The Power Pause, is changing the conversation
Speaker 3: around stay at home parenthood. One of my favorite moments
Speaker 3: from the interview was when Nahas shared why she dedicated
Speaker 3: the book to her dad. She talked about how he
Speaker 3: always honored and credited her mom for the immense impact
Speaker 3: in their home and out of their home. It was
Speaker 3: like a really special sort of gentle moment from the interview.
Speaker 2: That makes so much sense because you can see that
Speaker 2: this philosophy that she leads with is so deep in
Speaker 2: her bones and her DNA. And speaking of authors, I
Speaker 2: loved our conversation with Kate Fagan about her new book,
Speaker 2: The Three Lives of katek It is the January pick
Speaker 2: for Reese's Book Club. It's all about a famous author's
Speaker 2: decision to reveal her true identity after kind of being
Speaker 2: this elusive figure for years, and I personally loved listening
Speaker 2: to Kate unpack what it was like for her to
Speaker 2: write a fictional memoir as a primarily nonfiction writer. I mean,
Speaker 2: she really had to step up and pushed through a
Speaker 2: lot of deep seated fears that she had about this transition,
Speaker 2: and in the end she realized the things that we
Speaker 2: think are flaws are actually our superpowers.
Speaker 3: She's also really incisive, Like I kept wanting to hear
Speaker 3: what revelation she was going to share next day.
Speaker 1: Was a really great episode.
Speaker 3: And today we're going to continue with the trend of
Speaker 3: greatness and incredible guests because Raven Simone sometimes known as
Speaker 3: Raven Simone, and Miranda may Day are here with us.
Speaker 1: But before we.
Speaker 3: Jump in, it's time to spotlight our favorite moment of
Speaker 3: the week. So this week we're spotlighting the Queen of
Speaker 3: Country herself, Yep, the Queen Dolly Parton, because she is
Speaker 3: headed to Broadway, y'all.
Speaker 2: Yes, Dolly announced just this week that Dolly an original
Speaker 2: musical I set to debut in Nashville actually this summer,
Speaker 2: before heading to New York City next year.
Speaker 4: That's usually not the way things go.
Speaker 2: Usually shows premiere in London on the West End and
Speaker 2: then make their way to Broadway, But the Queen of
Speaker 2: Country is doing it her way, which makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: During a press conference, Dolly said she's quote always wanted
Speaker 2: to do my life story as a musical, adding that
Speaker 2: she wants it to happen while she's still around and
Speaker 2: can make sure that it's executed properly.
Speaker 4: A true control free queen. We love to see it.
Speaker 2: The musical will also feature songs we know and love,
Speaker 2: as well as quote a whole lot of original songs.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait for that. I know tickets are on
Speaker 3: sale now for the summer premiere. So what do you say?
Speaker 3: Are we all taking a trip to Nashville?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, Nashville or Broadway.
Speaker 2: I'm telling our producers to book us an interview with
Speaker 2: Dolly asap.
Speaker 4: All right, Danielle, we be ready to pop off.
Speaker 1: We're so ready.
Speaker 3: We're joined by the hilarious co hosts of the Tea
Speaker 3: Time podcast, Raven Simone and Miranda may Day. Welcome to
Speaker 3: the bright Side.
Speaker 1: It is the bright.
Speaker 5: Side night, Danielle, Hi Simone, Hi, y'all, thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: We missed you, guys.
Speaker 4: Hi, welcome to both of you. Raven.
Speaker 2: We had so much fun having you on solo, and
Speaker 2: now we get the wifey with us.
Speaker 6: Oh, I feel so special.
Speaker 4: How are we doing this morning? Fam?
Speaker 1: You know we woke up. We're here.
Speaker 7: I ordered a latte a macha late and instead I
Speaker 7: got a cold iced latte, which I didn't know was
Speaker 7: a thing. So you know I'm thriving out here.
Speaker 4: Baby. How are you?
Speaker 6: I am here you, guys.
Speaker 5: I also am to blame for that situation though, because
Speaker 5: I read the sign is wake and latte and it
Speaker 5: was actually wake and late. Yeah, so it really we're
Speaker 5: not We're not thriving or able to read well.
Speaker 3: I guess it's so hard to recover from the wrong
Speaker 3: coffee order, O preach. I know it shouldn't be, but
Speaker 3: it is. It feels like everything's going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to correct course.
Speaker 6: Yes, right, what about right now?
Speaker 3: Okay, So you guys host the hilarious podcast Tea Time
Speaker 3: with Raven and Miranda for listeners who may or may
Speaker 3: not be familiar. You have your guest pull topics out
Speaker 3: of a teapot and then you spill the tea.
Speaker 1: It gets piping hot sometimes, yes.
Speaker 3: Calding Simon and I recently he taped an episode with
Speaker 3: you guys, which is going to come out soon. But
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan on social I knew about your
Speaker 3: pod even before we went on, and you've had some
Speaker 3: clips go pretty viral. The ones that I saw recently
Speaker 3: were because Raven was kind of spilling the tea herself.
Speaker 1: You've been like, you've been divulging things.
Speaker 7: My wife told me it was a safe space, so
Speaker 7: therefore I have to trust her as her the contract
Speaker 7: of marriage.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, not the contract of the podcast.
Speaker 6: No, not the contract of the podcast.
Speaker 4: Just the marriage.
Speaker 1: I just look at her and I'm like, is this okay?
Speaker 6: Okay, good? I might go for it, babe.
Speaker 1: Well, okay.
Speaker 3: When you're in the studio, it's a safe space. And
Speaker 3: then it hits the airwaves and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like People Magazine, New York are all.
Speaker 1: These places pick things up?
Speaker 3: Is it cathartic or are you sick of spilling the tea?
Speaker 1: I realized that it's not a safe space.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 7: I'm also very aware of what I do spill and
Speaker 7: what I don't. I am not totally dissociated at that
Speaker 7: moment where I'm just saying whatever, But I do know
Speaker 7: that I, you know, with a podcast, as you both know,
Speaker 7: and Miranda has informed me that people want to know
Speaker 7: who I am and who we are and are our
Speaker 7: authentic selves. And I'm from a different generation where we
Speaker 7: just lighted the public to get a branding deals. But
Speaker 7: there's new ways of surfacing in this generation and I'm learning.
Speaker 3: I'm learning, Yeah, I get that. I've really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I think you're saving the piping hot tea for your book.
Speaker 7: I am thank you.
Speaker 4: This serious book that we've heard so much about.
Speaker 1: I'm running a back.
Speaker 4: I mean, I am.
Speaker 1: Actually it's happening.
Speaker 4: I actually have a question for both of you.
Speaker 2: We're still kind of in that new phase of the
Speaker 2: new year, and I'm curious if you had any like
Speaker 2: words or intentions that you set for this year, any goals,
Speaker 2: and how you're doing with those.
Speaker 5: You know, Simon, I'm so glad you asked, because I'm
Speaker 5: going to tell you you my wife is not somebody
Speaker 5: who is one for the new year, and this I'm not.
Speaker 5: And this December twenty twenty four, she was on it.
Speaker 5: She was like, we are doing this, and we're doing that,
Speaker 5: and we're going to have a ceremony and we're going
Speaker 5: to burn and we're going to purge water.
Speaker 1: I was ready to go.
Speaker 5: She was ready to go. So we came into this
Speaker 5: new year in a new house with this newfound energy,
Speaker 5: with every crystal cleansed. Raven was like burning things and
Speaker 5: soaking things in water. We were releasing, We were red
Speaker 5: and let me tell you, I don't know the world.
Speaker 5: It literally has been not it. We have said that
Speaker 5: we would like to unsubscribe. We would like a full refund.
Speaker 7: I want to coupon.
Speaker 6: I need a February first, we're going to say happy
Speaker 6: New Year. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't have any positivity to shine right now in
Speaker 5: regards to this new I mean, I'm super honest, I'm
Speaker 5: uncomfortably honest. It's just like it hasn't been a great time.
Speaker 7: I will give us some some positivity. You cannot see
Speaker 7: the beauty without a little bit of pain, very true.
Speaker 7: So if we didn't have this thing to kind of
Speaker 7: help us understand that, I believe February first, April, all
Speaker 7: these months we're about to give while I'm out here,
Speaker 7: it's about to be amazing. And we only will know
Speaker 7: that because of the bullshit that happened in January.
Speaker 1: You got me hyped up in that last second.
Speaker 4: I was like ready to throw my arms up.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's go you guys. You reboot immediately.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a system reboot. But I think to echo
Speaker 5: what you're saying. And I know I sounded like such
Speaker 5: a negative Nancy, But the truth is is that there
Speaker 5: is always beauty in pain, and you can always meet
Speaker 5: situations with grace, and there's always learning opportunities. And we're here,
Speaker 5: we're healthy, we're building, and life isn't always easy. I mean,
Speaker 5: people are resilient. Humanity has been through natural disaster and
Speaker 5: war and destruction for as long as we've been here,
Speaker 5: so we know how to persevere, we know how to
Speaker 5: lift each other up. And I think that we also
Speaker 5: learn through contrast. Why do you know what bright is
Speaker 5: because you know what dark is, So you have to
Speaker 5: have both to kind of live in a balanced life.
Speaker 6: And despite the.
Speaker 5: Devastation that has happened in Los Angeles, it's also been
Speaker 5: incredible to see how people rally together and how people
Speaker 5: have supported each other and the hope that the communities
Speaker 5: have instilled in one another. And I think that, you know, again,
Speaker 5: a lot of good can come from hardship.
Speaker 4: Absolutely so much gratitude.
Speaker 2: I'm filled with so much gratitude right now, and gratitude
Speaker 2: are officially going to be popping off right now.
Speaker 4: So let's get into this. Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm going to need that clipped out and played as
Speaker 2: our sound effect for this segment going forward. Okay, So
Speaker 2: first up, I need to hear everyone's opinion on a
Speaker 2: very hot debate on the internet right now. Give you
Speaker 2: a little teaser. It involves roommates, shampoo, and allegations of
Speaker 2: petty behavior.
Speaker 4: Ooh at left g WHOA?
Speaker 2: Okay, So, an anonymous twenty eight year old woman recently
Speaker 2: took to Reddit's and ib asshole for him?
Speaker 4: Is everyone here familiar with this? Is I am? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So people go on there and they ask the world
Speaker 2: Am I the asshole in this situation?
Speaker 4: Or is it someone else?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wow, so we're gonna call her Erica. Erica writes that
Speaker 2: she was away one weekend and while she was away,
Speaker 2: her thirty four year old male roommate invited his female friend,
Speaker 2: you know, a little hookup to stay over. No immediate problem, right, Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: when Erica comes back, she notices that the friend had
Speaker 2: used most of her expensive shampoo and conditioner without asking.
Speaker 2: So cut to the next time her roommate had this
Speaker 2: girl stay the night. Erica decides, Hey, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: out ahead of this, right, I know what's coming.
Speaker 4: So she moves the products to her so that the
Speaker 4: guests wouldn't be able to use them again.
Speaker 2: Smart And so then when the woman comes back, she
Speaker 2: couldn't find the conditioner, and then she asked Erica's roommate,
Speaker 2: and then he confronted Erica about it and said she
Speaker 2: was being rude and petty.
Speaker 4: So was she the angle in this situation or was
Speaker 4: she in the right.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to determine who the villain is here.
Speaker 7: Mm hmmmm, Well, I'm gonna say I had a similar situation.
Speaker 7: M I'm gonna answer your question. I'm going to tell
Speaker 7: you about my situation. Yeah, I think that Erica was
Speaker 7: in the right, thank.
Speaker 6: You, because it's expansive.
Speaker 7: It's expansive, and he was in the wrong for even
Speaker 7: going up to her and saying anything like that, because
Speaker 7: that is not communal shampoo. If your roommates, you know
Speaker 7: what's communal. So my personal story was I was dating
Speaker 7: this guy back in those days, and he was living
Speaker 7: with me at the time, and I went to Spain
Speaker 7: for a little movie that some people know, and I
Speaker 7: bought this Spanish body wash you could only get in Spain,
Speaker 7: and I you know, ladies, we all know you just
Speaker 7: little drops.
Speaker 1: He's savoring it, y savoring it.
Speaker 4: I can feel the pain in my chest. You know
Speaker 4: what's going to happen.
Speaker 7: This six foot two hundred and twenty pound grown ass
Speaker 7: man use it and I plotted to break up with
Speaker 7: him after that, and it happened. I broke up with
Speaker 7: this person because he really.
Speaker 6: Yes, I did, and he used all of it.
Speaker 7: He used all of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's crazy. I agree with you.
Speaker 4: It's not okay.
Speaker 5: Erica is not the asshole in that situation. I think
Speaker 5: that you do not expect your roommate's guest to ever
Speaker 5: use your items, Keristas. I mean that shit is expensive.
Speaker 5: It's like thirty dollars, and I'm a product whore. Like
Speaker 5: if anyone were to come into my bathroom and start
Speaker 5: using my stuff, my wife, my sister, my mother. Excuse me,
Speaker 5: what are you doing? I am not a share in
Speaker 5: that space. So that roommate he needs to buy his
Speaker 5: friend conditioner in shampoo to have in their house, or
Speaker 5: the girlfriend needs to pack her own little sleepover bag
Speaker 5: with her shampoo care. Also, go home and wash your hair.
Speaker 6: Why are you doing that?
Speaker 7: Well, sometimes you might need to wash your hair after
Speaker 7: you spend the night.
Speaker 1: Over with your boyfriend.
Speaker 6: No, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I need to clean up.
Speaker 6: Take your business there, she's so good to her house.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, no one wants to use drugstore shampoo.
Speaker 3: It feels okay that day, and then a week later
Speaker 3: you're like, what is.
Speaker 1: Happening in my hair?
Speaker 3: I feel this way in relationships similar to your story.
Speaker 3: I don't like when the men I date use my
Speaker 3: expensive shampoo because you don't need it in the way
Speaker 3: that I do. I have shampoo for them and I
Speaker 3: have shampoo for me.
Speaker 1: It's it's fair, that's fair. You think that's balanced or
Speaker 1: are we all being crazy?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 7: No, only only thing about it is men sometimes downgrade
Speaker 7: their beauty products thinking that they don't need it, but
Speaker 7: they need their own for their own world. Yes, And
Speaker 7: I think that Erica should ask for her money back.
Speaker 7: I think that they should buy her the shmoo that
Speaker 7: they used. And then by you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 7: do you guys share cosmetics or no?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: None, like not even a face cream.
Speaker 7: I mean sometimes she'll let me use some of her
Speaker 7: face cream in my skin is real dress.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sometimes I'm like, let me help you out, and
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 5: I did use your sun block because I ran out
Speaker 5: of mine, But and then.
Speaker 7: My sun block was her sunblock. She brought me her
Speaker 7: some block for that moment, took it back, So now
Speaker 7: I realized that it was just in.
Speaker 5: Case she read, the only thing I think we kind
Speaker 5: of share are sometimes sense you stole my diaper life.
Speaker 5: You share my diaper life.
Speaker 6: This is true.
Speaker 1: What's a diaper life?
Speaker 6: A diaper?
Speaker 7: A DIAPERA that moment, that moment in the female's life
Speaker 7: that month. Yeah, you know they went into these like
Speaker 7: washable underwears. I can't do that because I'm heavy. I
Speaker 7: have a heavy sisal flow. And so I picked up
Speaker 7: one of the diapers, which are the thorough away ones.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was just wearing around the house.
Speaker 1: She's like, is that a diaper?
Speaker 6: So Raven loves Raven loves a diaper.
Speaker 2: This is a huge female hack. I went, next time
Speaker 2: I'm in heat, I'm gonna wear a diaper.
Speaker 7: Yes you should, and in heat and there's like a
Speaker 7: little sports brand a diaper I totally stopped wearing.
Speaker 5: It's a tampons. Yeah, I just don't wear tampons anymore.
Speaker 7: So back to Erica, don't steal my diapers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this real life.
Speaker 4: The last thing I wanted to say about this story.
Speaker 4: This is a quick fix.
Speaker 2: All the all the roommate has to do is buy
Speaker 2: her some urbal essence panteene Provy until she graduates to
Speaker 2: deserving the expense, you know, like maybe once she becomes
Speaker 2: like a girlfriend or something, then she gets access to it.
Speaker 4: But just buy her a jeep Shampo.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a quick break from popping off, but
Speaker 2: we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: We're back to popping off with Raven Simonet and Miranda
Speaker 4: may Day.
Speaker 1: Okay, we have something else to chat about today.
Speaker 3: We've heard of niche insurance policies, right, so concert pianists
Speaker 3: can insure their hands. There's always been this rumor that
Speaker 3: j Low has insured her dairy air. I was looking
Speaker 3: up more online. A lot of celebrities insure things. Taylor
Speaker 3: Swift allegedly insured her legs for forty million dollars. Clume too, yes,
Speaker 3: allegedly allegedly. Julia Roberts allegedly insured her smile.
Speaker 1: For thirty million.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard that too.
Speaker 1: I think it's worth more.
Speaker 3: Anyways, there's a new insurance policy in town. It's called
Speaker 3: Cancel Culture Insurance.
Speaker 1: I know so.
Speaker 3: A London based insurance agency just launched a policy called Preempt,
Speaker 3: basically cancel culture insurance. It's designed to protect people from
Speaker 3: reputational damage before things spiral, offering monitoring training and a
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven crisis Hotline to handle negative social
Speaker 3: media and any media coverage that's negative.
Speaker 1: It's basically like your own crisis PR team.
Speaker 3: It seems it even covers misinformation and deep fakes.
Speaker 2: Ravens punning your head down. I can't wait to hear this.
Speaker 1: But here's the catch.
Speaker 3: It's meant for people worried about being mischaracterized or taken
Speaker 3: out of context, not for those who've actually broken the
Speaker 3: law or done something wrong. I feel conflicted about this
Speaker 3: because does it incentivize people to behave badly?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Does it give characters on the internet or on the
Speaker 1: news or on the.
Speaker 3: View an incentive to say outrageous things because they'll get
Speaker 3: an insurance check for it?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd even take it there.
Speaker 6: I didn't think about that either. And that's interesting.
Speaker 4: That's hard.
Speaker 1: We already have unhinged people online.
Speaker 4: That part.
Speaker 1: That part, I don't know if I need more.
Speaker 6: Of it, you know, Yeah, that's so interesting. I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's such My initial thought was like, this is such
Speaker 5: a reflection of just where our world has gone. And
Speaker 5: when you think about people who are canceled, I can
Speaker 5: understand for somebody who feels completely misunderstood or something that
Speaker 5: blows out of proportion that wasn't meant to land the
Speaker 5: way it landed. Then you've lost essentially your livelihood and
Speaker 5: your reputation. Right, I can understand that, But the fact
Speaker 5: that you just brought up in y'elle, I don't know.
Speaker 5: And if that's going to open the floodgates for giving
Speaker 5: more people permission to be off the walls, I mean
Speaker 5: that sucks, But people do anything for a check.
Speaker 7: You went there and I went to Olivia Pope, like
Speaker 7: that is the original quote unquote sure the fixer, and
Speaker 7: it's like that insurance policy is just gonna happen. You're
Speaker 7: just gonna spend that money on a publicist because you're
Speaker 7: gonna have to fix it anyway.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: I find it ridiculous. Just watch your mouth and think
Speaker 7: about what you're going to say before you say it,
Speaker 7: because I think you're.
Speaker 1: Right, Daniel. I think they're going to start just taking money.
Speaker 7: But the world we live in now, it's all about
Speaker 7: free speech and say whatever you want to it if
Speaker 7: it's your truth. So well, if our leaders can do it,
Speaker 7: why can't the civilians do it?
Speaker 6: Because then you get a TikTok man so.
Speaker 2: I guess this was created for people who feel victimized
Speaker 2: by just the cultural conversation and feel like they didn't
Speaker 2: actually say anything.
Speaker 4: Wrong, right exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like you you went on the
Speaker 2: view you caught flag for saying things that were it
Speaker 2: was completely unfair and blown out of proportion. Would something
Speaker 2: like this have been helpful in that situation?
Speaker 1: I don't really need money.
Speaker 7: I mean, of course I like money like that, right,
Speaker 7: I know, care what you put in the universe. I
Speaker 7: don't know if money would have fixed the problem and
Speaker 7: the feeling that I went through at the time of
Speaker 7: the things that I said. I also am just talking
Speaker 7: like that right now. I mean, I still got my
Speaker 7: check though. That's the crazy thing. It's just like, I
Speaker 7: maybe maybe you're right, Simone, maybe it would have helped.
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't know how it could have unless
Speaker 7: there was you said, it comes with a what it
Speaker 7: comes with a twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: Helpline, Yeah, crisis hotline.
Speaker 7: So like, what do I call and cry and they're like, well,
Speaker 7: maybe you don't and apologize if I give you what
Speaker 7: If they give you bad advice, the best advice is
Speaker 7: to just be quiet and apologize.
Speaker 4: And keep your opinions to yourself next time.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, in this vein, I have a psa. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about this since the new year, bring
Speaker 1: decorum back. Oh, we must bring decorum back. I miss it.
Speaker 1: I think it keeps people safe.
Speaker 3: I know it's like it feels a little bit old school,
Speaker 3: but in professional settings, decorum is there for a reason.
Speaker 3: You know when Jackie O had that face where she
Speaker 3: was unfhazed all the time because she was a public person.
Speaker 1: Yes, ring decorum back. When you are on the.
Speaker 3: Airplane and you're in the window seat and it's sunny
Speaker 3: and the shade is up, put it.
Speaker 1: Down, or I agree, saying.
Speaker 3: Wild things on the internet that are explicit and insight violence,
Speaker 3: bring decorum back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, and I have a I have something
Speaker 7: to say to you.
Speaker 4: Please.
Speaker 7: We are too far along in shock culture to do that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you think so.
Speaker 7: I think that the new generation, maybe maybe not this
Speaker 7: generation that's popping off right now, but if we start now,
Speaker 7: the next generation can. But like you know, there's something
Speaker 7: wrong with today where it's like I need more and
Speaker 7: more and more to get a feeling we are so numb.
Speaker 7: Yes that maybe it'll shock us back into it because
Speaker 7: I agree with you, but decorum.
Speaker 5: Also, I think that people might counter the brain decorum
Speaker 5: back with but that's inauthentic to my experience in that moment. Right, So,
Speaker 5: the window seat, the window seat person. We're not trained
Speaker 5: in our culture to think about the person next to
Speaker 5: us or the person coming after us. And we are
Speaker 5: literally individual like in our own bubble type of people.
Speaker 5: And that's even just think of how we commute. Most
Speaker 5: of us are just you know, isolated in a car
Speaker 5: going from point A to point B. So that idea
Speaker 5: of put your window down is so correct, but I
Speaker 5: think that what you would encounter is this is my seat.
Speaker 5: I paid for it, and I can have it up
Speaker 5: or down. And then you have just constant conflict because
Speaker 5: what you're not thinking of is okay, wait, the sun
Speaker 5: is glaring in. And it's also like cascading onto a
Speaker 5: mother who's holding her a baby and this man and
Speaker 5: this like you're not considering and so it's it's so hard.
Speaker 5: And then people are so in this place of like
Speaker 5: every single individual experience counts, My feelings matter. I need
Speaker 5: to be validated, that there's no sense of community and
Speaker 5: how we all impact each other.
Speaker 7: And that's why I think cancel culture kind of blew
Speaker 7: out a proportion because the people that say whatever they think,
Speaker 7: they whatever they think their experiences, not having decorum, not
Speaker 7: realizing that we are all on this tiny piece of
Speaker 7: land with each other. Like other cultures. Japanese people, they
Speaker 7: are a unit when they move forward. They don't even
Speaker 7: open presence in front of the person in front of
Speaker 7: them because they want to make sure that they have
Speaker 7: their personal experience privately and then go about, you know,
Speaker 7: saying thank you later. But that cancel culture came because
Speaker 7: one person said their truth and another person is not
Speaker 7: okay with it, and therefore you're canceled. And it's so
Speaker 7: disgusting to me. And I think that you're right. If
Speaker 7: we kind of and we kind of go back to
Speaker 7: when manners were really really important, yeah, and like the
Speaker 7: collective was really important, then maybe we would maybe we
Speaker 7: would be a little bit better humanity, maybe we'd be better.
Speaker 1: I love where you guys took this. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I really bring decorum back. Matters were there for a reason.
Speaker 7: They were there for a reason.
Speaker 2: Well, one area where I really prefer to adhere to
Speaker 2: the traditional way of doing things is weddings. I think
Speaker 2: that we have to have decorum when it comes to weddings.
Speaker 2: I'm still shocked that some people don't know that you
Speaker 2: just can't wear white if you're not the bride. But anyways,
Speaker 2: it seems like, you know, a lot of elements of
Speaker 2: decorum have gone out the window, as we've been saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: when it comes to weddings and marriages.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 2: I recently came across an article in the New York
Speaker 2: Times that was titled you are cordially invited to our wedding,
Speaker 2: but not to our vows. And I read that I
Speaker 2: was like, huh, So what this piece says is that
Speaker 2: more and more couples are actually deciding to exchange their
Speaker 2: wedding vows in private, and there are several different ways
Speaker 2: that you can do this. Apparently, so one couple mentioned
Speaker 2: and that they shared their vows silently in front of
Speaker 2: all of their wedding guests, which I'm not exactly sure
Speaker 2: how that goes down.
Speaker 7: We won't We'll have to unpack that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In another instance, guests watch the bride and groom hand
Speaker 2: each other sealed envelopes one at a time and read
Speaker 2: them silently while everyone watched that sounds awkward to me.
Speaker 2: What do you guys make of this trend? Are you
Speaker 2: pro private vows or pro public vows?
Speaker 1: The vows are my favorite part?
Speaker 7: Really?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you start crying?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm into. What do I want
Speaker 3: to see the decorum of your wedding?
Speaker 7: I don't want to see the stuff they say all
Speaker 7: the time.
Speaker 3: I want to see the stuff that you mean, like,
Speaker 3: what does this person mean to you? I don't want
Speaker 3: to attend a wedding without vows.
Speaker 7: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Wow, Danielle, take your hard stance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, I can understand that because personally, okay,
Speaker 5: this is where I stand with him.
Speaker 6: If a couple is like it feels.
Speaker 5: Too intimate and we want to make, you know, promises
Speaker 5: and commitments to one another that just are bound between
Speaker 5: the two of us, that's fantastic. I think you should
Speaker 5: do that. But I think you should have then a
Speaker 5: moment where you give the lighter version to your audience. Well,
Speaker 5: where I think you still can say some form of
Speaker 5: thou like something or some kind of agreed upon I
Speaker 5: promise to da da da da da. Because it is
Speaker 5: an emotional part. It is a beautiful element, and I
Speaker 5: think that it's also beautiful that in front of those
Speaker 5: people you are making this commitment. What I like the
Speaker 5: most about about is you're asking all of those people
Speaker 5: to be your witness to the commitment that you're making
Speaker 5: to another person. And hopefully there's somebody in that crowd
Speaker 5: that will also then help hold you accountable to the
Speaker 5: commitment that you just publicly made. So there is a
Speaker 5: public element that is kind of crucial, I think, to
Speaker 5: the commitment that is made in a marriage.
Speaker 4: Are we all grandma's you guys?
Speaker 7: Are we all just I definitely am not a grandma
Speaker 7: because I don't think you should be doing that in
Speaker 7: front of people.
Speaker 4: I really don't.
Speaker 7: I hope that not do your vowels in front of everyone,
Speaker 7: because I don't want anybody in my relationship.
Speaker 1: Change my mind. Tell me more, okay.
Speaker 7: So, like I think that the vows should come before
Speaker 7: you get on the altar and just make the altar
Speaker 7: the ceremonial visual for the audience. I think when I'm
Speaker 7: starting to say what I'm gonna, you know, do for
Speaker 7: you and all of that, I think that should be
Speaker 7: in a private setting. I think that we need to
Speaker 7: put marriage ceremonies into a microscope and kind of change
Speaker 7: the way it looks like.
Speaker 6: For me, I think there should.
Speaker 7: Be two type of ceremonies within one day. One the
Speaker 7: vowels that you have with each other in front of
Speaker 7: like whoever you're priest or efficient and maybe your parents.
Speaker 7: But I don't think three hundred people that you sent
Speaker 7: invitations to just to fill up your wedding that the
Speaker 7: game presence should be involved in the intimacy of your relationship.
Speaker 7: Because if y'all get divorced, people go and look at
Speaker 7: you like you're crazy afterwards. So I think that it
Speaker 7: needs to be like private for that moment, because that
Speaker 7: is the truth. That is what you guys are basing
Speaker 7: your relationship off of. And all those three hundred to
Speaker 7: six hundred or twenty people that come to your wedding,
Speaker 7: that's not their business. In my opinion, personally, you.
Speaker 3: Did slightly change my mind, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3: I in listening to you, I was realizing, as an
Speaker 3: audience member at a wedding, it's almost a performance.
Speaker 1: It's a performance, and the vows should not be performative.
Speaker 1: I like your idea.
Speaker 3: If you are in Miranda, if you are inviting everybody
Speaker 3: to your performance of a wedding.
Speaker 1: Do a light version.
Speaker 3: Now we all are entertained and we feel your love
Speaker 3: and get to still cry with you and then have
Speaker 3: a separate one for the two of you.
Speaker 1: I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 5: That's kind of what you said, which is the and
Speaker 5: what I said it is like you have your own
Speaker 5: smaller intimate moment, which is like maybe your parents are
Speaker 5: your efficient or at least have someone bearing witness if
Speaker 5: you need that.
Speaker 6: But I think that that's kind of.
Speaker 4: What we did.
Speaker 5: Like we didn't have a traditional vow ceremony. We had
Speaker 5: written down things on paper that we like, we and
Speaker 5: we had marriage journals, marriage journey.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they lasted like two months. But I do want
Speaker 7: to bring back something that you said simone about somebody
Speaker 7: doing their vows in silence.
Speaker 6: How does that work?
Speaker 2: I don't do.
Speaker 7: I'm just staring at your eyes. You can read my
Speaker 7: booins these couple's telepathy.
Speaker 4: Oh god, it got it.
Speaker 1: You should know that this is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 7: Again, it's about it's about tradition setting, but your version
Speaker 7: of tradition, like read the vowels after in the envelope.
Speaker 7: But if you're standing there and i'd like to take
Speaker 7: a moment of silence for vows.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is not dead, this is this is life.
Speaker 4: We need to speak.
Speaker 7: We need to, you know, pump some energy into the wedding.
Speaker 7: I need I need hip hop, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 7: I don't know, I'm just different when I've been to
Speaker 7: like a little reggae.
Speaker 4: I'm a little.
Speaker 7: Reggae, you know what I mean. I need a little
Speaker 7: you know, hit bumping.
Speaker 5: But I also think it's super individual. Whatever makes the
Speaker 5: people getting married on that day happy, and whatever makes
Speaker 5: them feel celebrated and makes their relationship feel whatever it
Speaker 5: needs to feel on that day, go off. Like if
Speaker 5: you need to have a silent wedding, have a fucking
Speaker 5: silent wedding.
Speaker 6: If you want to wear a black party, yeah, like
Speaker 6: where whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Like I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't feel like you have.
Speaker 5: To get married in one way at all. I think
Speaker 5: you do your thing.
Speaker 6: But I think you're right.
Speaker 7: It is a show. You're putting on a show for
Speaker 7: other people, and that does not feel authentic. And we
Speaker 7: are in the you know, generation of authenticity.
Speaker 3: It's time for another short break, but we'll be right
Speaker 3: back with Miranda may Day and Raven Simonet and we're
Speaker 3: back with Raven, Cimo, Neet and Miranda may Day. Okay,
Speaker 3: you guys know, I'm in Jamaica right now. A lot
Speaker 3: of my girlfriends are here and some of them listen
Speaker 3: to our podcast. Danielle and my friend Alex was like,
Speaker 3: I love the popping off.
Speaker 2: Segments, Like that's my favorite part. I like love the
Speaker 2: celebrity tea and pop culture. So I promised I would
Speaker 2: squeeze in a celebrity tea question.
Speaker 4: Let's go, Yes, let's go.
Speaker 2: What is the most fun celebrity wedding you both have
Speaker 2: been to?
Speaker 7: And why you're so cute? We don't have celebrity friends.
Speaker 5: I was gonna have to say mine when I married
Speaker 5: Raven the celebrity, because that's the only celebrity wedding I've
Speaker 5: ever been to.
Speaker 7: I've been to my best I've been to my best
Speaker 7: friends reading from middle school. I wasn't even invited to
Speaker 7: my best friend's wedding from high school.
Speaker 5: Together, Raven and I have been to four weddings, like
Speaker 5: I think collect if you add like every wedding she's
Speaker 5: been to in every wedding I've been to, it's like
Speaker 5: five total.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like we don't wedding.
Speaker 7: Now, to answer your questions, which celebrity wedding have we
Speaker 7: witnessed on social media?
Speaker 1: Or which we.
Speaker 5: Can we adjust the question to like which celebrity party,
Speaker 5: because have we been to any.
Speaker 2: Good celebrity Yes, that's what I was gonna say, Like
Speaker 2: what Hollywood event?
Speaker 4: Maybe our celebrities party? Have you been to? That was
Speaker 4: the most fun? The white party? I'm just playing. I
Speaker 4: didn't go.
Speaker 7: Oh god, we need a whole episode on that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't invited.
Speaker 6: You can't drop that. At the end, all she wanted
Speaker 6: to do was go to a white party.
Speaker 1: No one invited me. I'm just playing cot so lucky.
Speaker 4: How are you not right now?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, seriously, you're so lucky.
Speaker 4: I've been to some parties, you guys.
Speaker 7: I've been to some parties in Atlanta, here in LA
Speaker 7: and I will say it is the freedom that comes
Speaker 7: with knowing that everybody is in a precarious situation.
Speaker 6: They want some tea, they want some names.
Speaker 7: Oh no, I'm not giving no names. I sign an NDA.
Speaker 7: But I also don't want people to tell the truth
Speaker 7: on me. So I'm gonna have some decorum.
Speaker 3: I'm not redacting this any Hattish sorta got canceled for
Speaker 3: not having decorum.
Speaker 1: In this situation, I'm not about to not have decorum.
Speaker 7: I get so the celebrity parties that I've been to,
Speaker 7: whether I have my phone taken away, whether it's free
Speaker 7: drinks flowing like water from the well, whether it's all
Speaker 7: kinds of things going down. I think the most fun
Speaker 7: I have is when I see someone that I grew
Speaker 7: up with totally not on their best behavior, totally enjoying
Speaker 7: their civilian life and forgetting that they're worth millions, and
Speaker 7: I'm just sitting there like I'm about to, We're about to,
Speaker 7: We're about to, We're about to go right now, and
Speaker 7: to be able to just be free and be like
Speaker 7: I just popped it on this person and this person
Speaker 7: just pomped it on me, and it was just even
Speaker 7: instead of when you meet these people at like an
Speaker 7: award show or a red carpet, they're so hoity toity,
Speaker 7: they're snooty. But when you get something.
Speaker 1: Many celebrities girl.
Speaker 7: And it's like it's but it's anybody at.
Speaker 5: One of the best celebrity parties that we have been to,
Speaker 5: and I can give names that is actually Tiffany haddishes
Speaker 5: and Tiffany throws a great game night party she does
Speaker 5: and she has people. Everyone has to bring a dish,
Speaker 5: and she has an entire house. It's potluck spades. It's
Speaker 5: like pot but she changes it every month and she
Speaker 5: does it monthly, and it's she has a house. It's
Speaker 5: entirely empty except for the food and the games that
Speaker 5: come into it. So every room there's like a different
Speaker 5: game going down. You got spades over here, you got
Speaker 5: another card game over here. She has a bouncy house
Speaker 5: in the backyard. Everybody brings a.
Speaker 6: Dish and you just go.
Speaker 1: That is so fun.
Speaker 6: It's really fun.
Speaker 7: There's anything like a daytime. It starts we day, but it.
Speaker 6: Starts in the day and it goes into the night
Speaker 6: and it just what about you too?
Speaker 4: About you two?
Speaker 3: I've been to some good ones, right party, Yes, the
Speaker 3: corn but do sell. So this is probably weird nowadays
Speaker 3: to share. But back in the day, I went to
Speaker 3: a Halloween party that uh, it was like very celebrity filled.
Speaker 3: My best friend doesn't know any celebrities, like she's one
Speaker 3: of those, so she kept asking Jessica Alba to take
Speaker 3: photos of her and then saying, this doesn't look good.
Speaker 4: The lighting is not right.
Speaker 6: Can you do it again?
Speaker 4: I love it?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, she kept rolling her eyes.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, Jessica.
Speaker 3: But ultimately the party became an after party at Elon
Speaker 3: Muff's house. Everyone they took the phones like you had
Speaker 3: to put your phones in those bags.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: It was an unbelievable night.
Speaker 7: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: It was a good one, okay, Daniel.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that house was wild.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was really.
Speaker 3: There were like naked mermaids and glitter all over the house,
Speaker 3: like in the pools.
Speaker 7: Yes, please, yeah, wow, yes, it was one. We'll talk
Speaker 7: about that offline where the decorum is no longer that
Speaker 7: that's one place where I'm good with decorum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, offline, offline with your friends, yes, exactly.
Speaker 7: What about you, Siman? Was that was that bomb party
Speaker 7: you went to?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately we are out of time you guys, guys, I
Speaker 2: love you so much.
Speaker 4: Say that a lot.
Speaker 6: I really love you guys, We love you.
Speaker 7: I love you both.
Speaker 4: I love you guys too, and I missed you.
Speaker 2: And can I get us on a group chat so
Speaker 2: we can finally schedule something.
Speaker 7: Yes please, and we can have a party of our own.
Speaker 4: And then we'll have stories.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's the theme of the party.
Speaker 3: No decorum aloud. All right, thanks for joining us today, guys.
Speaker 7: Thanks for love you, guys.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Raven Simone is an Emmy Award winning actor, singer, producer,
Speaker 3: and director. She's also the host of the game show Scrabble.
Speaker 3: Miranda Mayde is the co host of the podcast Tea
Speaker 3: Time with Raven and Miranda. It's available wherever you get
Speaker 3: your podcasts.
Speaker 4: That's it for today's show.
Speaker 2: On Monday, we're joined by the Master of Nuance, herself,
Speaker 2: author and my good friend, Britt Baron. She's here to
Speaker 2: talk about her new book and how we can all
Speaker 2: navigate tough topics with the ones we love.
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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson. I'm Simone Boyce.
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