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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome into Turning Point tonight. We're together.

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Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. I

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Speaker 1: will be completely open and transparent with you. We're not

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Speaker 1: entirely sure how to move forward just yet. At the

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Speaker 1: end of last week, we kind of thought, well, let's

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Speaker 1: get back into the news of the day. But it

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Speaker 1: didn't sit right with us this morning when we were

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Speaker 1: kind of plotting out the show, especially with Vice President

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Speaker 1: Vance hosting Charlie's show and all of the emotion that

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Speaker 1: came with that. So we're going to continue talking to

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Speaker 1: our friends in the Turning Point family about Charlie, what

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Speaker 1: they meant, what he meant to them. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: Monica Page about the direction of the organization, especially after

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Speaker 1: Erica Kirk's moving speech on Friday, and as well as

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Speaker 1: Stephen Davis, who is a Turning Point USA contributor. But

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Speaker 1: right now, I want to get to a show favorite

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Speaker 1: Savannah Hernandez, frontlines reporter and TPUSA contributor. Savannah was well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get two into the weeds too quickly,

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Speaker 1: but Savana, I want to open the floor up to you.

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Speaker 1: You know, your relationship with Charlie what that looked like

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Speaker 1: from a work environment on a personal level, and you

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Speaker 1: know what he meant to you overall as a reporter

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Speaker 1: and someone who does work as important as you do.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: First off, thank you so much for having me, Joe Bop.

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Speaker 3: This is actually the first time that I'm speaking on

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Speaker 3: actually in Europe covering the migrant crisis for front Lines

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Speaker 3: TPUSA when we got the news, and you know, this

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Speaker 3: but honestly, I feel like I've just been so I've

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Speaker 3: been focusing on how impactful Charlie's life has been on

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Speaker 3: last week when everything was very fresh, and I just

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Speaker 3: stated that I think that Charlie's what life saved millions

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Speaker 3: of us. I think that the Lord knew that the

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Speaker 3: world was so dark and depressing, and so many of

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Speaker 3: us were really struggling even to hear him in the

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Speaker 3: midst of all of the darkness, and Charlie was just

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Speaker 3: such a light and losing him just made so many

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Speaker 3: of us run straight back to the Lord. So I

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Speaker 3: just want to start with that that Charlie was so impactful.

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Speaker 3: His legacy was so impactful that even in his death,

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Speaker 3: he's still working. Even now, his legacy is still so powerful.

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Speaker 3: So thank you Charlie for that. Regarding what he meant

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Speaker 3: to me personally, he was a great mentor. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be where I am today, my voice would be, you know,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't

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Speaker 3: for Charlie Kirk, if it wasn't for TPUSA. Charlie would

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Speaker 3: get me on his show, as you know a reporter.

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Speaker 3: I'd been with Turning Point four three years at this point,

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Speaker 3: And Charlie was just one of the most supportive people

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Speaker 3: you know, I just personally want to honor Charlie's legacy

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Speaker 3: by continuing to push that attitude. You know, he talked

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Speaker 3: so much about being a happy warrior, and this is

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Speaker 3: you know, he was just he was a great inspiration,

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Speaker 3: You know how, we would see him beforehand and we

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Speaker 1: You know what, Savanna, You to kind of expand on

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Speaker 1: he's known for going on college campuses, and yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: it's incomprehensible to go, Holy, how this guy who's doing

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that the media has play a huge

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is unbelievable the undertaking that again one

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Speaker 1: did that trust feel like to you? Because obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Monica, you know, I hate to take this, you know, dark,

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Speaker 4: how he made people feel special. No matter who you were,

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Speaker 4: he always made you feel special. And I think that

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Speaker 4: that's a really amazing thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, Monica, I think if I were to be

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Speaker 1: completely candid, you know, from Wednesday afternoon up until Friday, yes,

440
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Speaker 1: you had this sense of we're going to keep going,

441
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Speaker 1: We're going to keep moving, But there's also this kind

442
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Speaker 1: of ambiguity of like what's gonna happen? Is this going

443
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Speaker 1: to go off course? How is this going to affect

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody in the Turning Point unit. And then

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Speaker 1: on Friday night, when Erica was delivering her remarks, all

446
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Speaker 1: of that, any any sort of doubt, and I wouldn't

447
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Speaker 1: necessarily even call it gout, any of that ambiguity was

448
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Speaker 1: just gone, just Oh, it's we're going to soldier on

449
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Speaker 1: and this is going to be bigger than it ever

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Speaker 1: possibly could have been dreamt of. That's how I saw it.

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Speaker 1: Your I would love your perspective, you know of Erica

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Speaker 1: right now as a wife yourself, you know, as a

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Speaker 1: woman who's in this conservative movement. What did you What

454
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Speaker 1: did you think of her speech, her remarks, and her

455
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Speaker 1: steadfastness to what Charlie fought so hard to continue.

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Speaker 5: It's incredibly inspiring.

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Speaker 4: I mean, not only does Erica every day make me

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Speaker 4: want to be a better wife to my husband, just

459
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Speaker 4: seeing her overall composure and seeing such strength and such

460
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Speaker 4: a really difficult time. There was nobody I think that

461
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Speaker 4: loved Charlie more than she did. And to see her

462
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Speaker 4: stand tall, speak the truth and say we're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 5: That was powerful. That made me, Joe Bob want to

464
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Speaker 5: run through a brick wall.

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Speaker 4: And say I am not going anywhere for this organization.

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Speaker 4: I am so ready to take on more than I

467
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Speaker 4: can chew. I reached out to my college, Panthus, I

468
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Speaker 4: went to Mary's College now Mary's University. I actually reached

469
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Speaker 4: out to the Marris Republicans and I said, Hey, if

470
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Speaker 4: you guys need help, let me know I am all

471
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Speaker 4: for this. If you need me to come to Upstate

472
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Speaker 4: New York, we will do this. Because that's just how

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Speaker 4: I feel now. And God bless Erica and everything that

474
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Speaker 4: she's been doing for her children, their children, his family,

475
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Speaker 4: her family. You know, she's got a lot, she said,

476
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Speaker 4: a lot on her plate right now, but I know

477
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Speaker 4: that she can do it because she's Erica Kirk and

478
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Speaker 4: it's going to be amazing to watch her grow turning

479
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Speaker 4: point even bigger than any of us could have ever

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Speaker 4: imagined and truly lived Charlie's legacy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honest to God. On Friday, when I heard

482
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Speaker 1: she was doing a statement, I was like, oh my gosh,

483
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Speaker 1: this feels soon. Not that, of course, I thought she

484
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Speaker 1: wasn't ready for it, but then she again stood up

485
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Speaker 1: there like a brick wall and delivered what I think

486
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Speaker 1: was an eloquent response and encouragement to everyone out there

487
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Speaker 1: in a world of Cardi B's being Erica kirk Well said, Yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: that's that's that seems to be the perspective of everybody

489
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Speaker 1: who watched that on Friday, Monica Page. We'll continue checking

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Speaker 1: in as the week goes on, although it's it's been

491
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Speaker 1: difficult to cover news of the day when there's so

492
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Speaker 1: much happening on this front. But I appreciate you taking

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Speaker 1: the time, and we'll talk to you soon.

494
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Speaker 5: Thanks Joe, Bob, god bless, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back Turning Point tonight after the break.

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Speaker 1: Don't go away, We'll see you have the break. Welcome

497
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Speaker 1: back to Turning Point tonight. We're together. We are still

498
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Speaker 1: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Remember, as always,

499
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Speaker 1: you can email the show TPT at tpusa dot com.

500
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Speaker 1: You have fond memories, well wishes for Charlie Kirk or

501
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: the Kirk family more broadly, you can send them on over.

502
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: It's been, it has been. It's been nice to read

503
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Speaker 1: all of them again in a tragic time. It's it

504
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: is good to know that there are people out there,

505
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Speaker 1: and this is obvious that really really cared about Try

506
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Speaker 1: Harley Kirk so TPT at tpusa dot com if you

507
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: feel inclined or compelled to send any of your thoughts memories,

508
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: which is I wish we could get back to more

509
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Speaker 1: of them. We'll read some more. Uh, continue to read

510
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Speaker 1: some more as the show goes on, but right now

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to longtime Turning Point contributor Stephen Davis,

512
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Speaker 1: also known as Magahalk, also known as many other online monikers. Uh,

513
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Speaker 1: Stephen Davis was there when I got there. He's been there,

514
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: He's been around for as long as anybody knew. Charlie. Well, Stephen,

515
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Speaker 1: I I'll open the floor up to you. Thanks for

516
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Speaker 1: being here, and you know, you know what are what's

517
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Speaker 1: what's going through your head? Anything that you want to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, first of all, thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 6: I just I mean, this is obviously we're all still

520
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Speaker 6: in shock when it comes to this situation.

521
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Speaker 2: This is absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: It's a senseless murder when it comes to one of

523
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Speaker 6: our foremost leaders, with an inspirational man, a moral man,

524
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Speaker 6: who is all about as Lord of Saberg's Christ. I mean,

525
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 6: this is the type of person that would you know

526
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Speaker 6: stood on the forefront of this movement and promoted Americanism, patriotism,

527
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Speaker 6: dedicated his life to study, dedicated in his life to

528
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Speaker 6: his nation, into the youth of this nation.

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Speaker 2: And to his wife and to his kids.

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Speaker 6: And we forget that this man is not just a leader,

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Speaker 6: but he's a leader of his family.

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: You don't take a father, you don't take a husband,

534
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 6: you don't do these egregious things just to prove a

535
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Speaker 6: political point. It's absolutely egregious. We as a country need

536
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Speaker 6: to wake up, need to come back together, because at

537
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Speaker 6: the end of the day, this is what Charlie would

538
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Speaker 6: have wanted. So we need to come together as a country,

539
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Speaker 6: reunify as the United States of America, not the divide it,

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Speaker 6: but the United States of America, and move on towards

541
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Speaker 6: the future.

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Speaker 1: You know, Stephen, you mentioned something that I think I've

543
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Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of times before that I think is

544
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Speaker 1: just a really interesting dynamic in the movement. Broadly, he said,

545
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Speaker 1: you know, moral guy, a man of character, a guy

546
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Speaker 1: who's devoted to his wife, which is all true. And

547
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Speaker 1: I think we both understood, well, you didn't have to

548
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: worry about any sort of like scandal coming out with Charlie.

549
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: You didn't have to worry about, oh, hey, you know

550
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: we were gonna find out something about him that he

551
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Speaker 1: was doing in his personal life that would not be

552
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Speaker 1: becoming of the guy he said he was. That that

553
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Speaker 1: was all just like not a concern, which I think

554
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Speaker 1: allowed us to be more proactive in calling out other

555
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Speaker 1: people on the other side, specifically because there was never

556
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Speaker 1: any fear of like, Okay, well, this is gonna look

557
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: hypocritical if this comes out or or people find out

558
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: about this, because there wasn't anything there. I don't know,

559
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Speaker 1: did it make you feel like you could say more

560
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Speaker 1: because of that? And and you know what kind of

561
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Speaker 1: comfort did that give you? Knowing again there was you're

562
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Speaker 1: not gonna have to be faced with any sort of

563
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Speaker 1: like calls of hypocrisy or anything like that because Charlie

564
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Speaker 1: was such a just a good dude lack of a

565
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Speaker 1: better term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the name of the game. And

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Speaker 2: when you look at this political.

568
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Speaker 6: Landscape, it's all rot with all kinds of scandal, all

569
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Speaker 6: kinds of foolishness, all kinds.

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Speaker 2: Of double standards and hypocrisy.

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Speaker 6: And this is something he else also talked about quite often,

572
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Speaker 6: as the fact that he said that if the left

573
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Speaker 6: didn't have any double standards, that would have no standards

574
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Speaker 6: at all. But when it came to him, he made

575
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Speaker 6: sure he walked what he talked. He did exactly what

576
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Speaker 6: he said he was going to do. He lived the

577
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Speaker 6: way the Bible called him to do. He did the

578
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Speaker 6: things that he expected out of us. And at the

579
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Speaker 6: end of the day, that emboldens us to be able

580
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Speaker 6: to go out there and stand as he did because

581
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Speaker 6: he is a leader, and as a leader, people are

582
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Speaker 6: looking to your example. And if you have a life

583
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Speaker 6: that's you live in such a way that's above reproach,

584
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Speaker 6: you can better believe it empowers everyone else to do

585
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: the exact same thing. So it makes us all raise

586
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 6: our game. I'm glad that he lived such a life

587
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Speaker 6: and we're going to continue to do uphold that legacy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's like a sinky era, rising tide

589
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: lifts all ships.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was easy to be better around a guy who

592
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Speaker 1: was holding himself to to the highest possible standard, you know, Steve,

593
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Speaker 1: and I hate to bring this up, but being a

594
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Speaker 1: black guy, this is obviously one of these these terms

595
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Speaker 1: that are floating around. And we will play a clip

596
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Speaker 1: later on in the show. That is going to infuriate you.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean to do that specifically, not not you,

598
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Speaker 1: specifically Steven our audience, but it's it just it makes

599
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Speaker 1: a declarative statement, this guy was racist. What do you

600
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Speaker 1: have to say to the to the people that are

601
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Speaker 1: saying that right now, and what's your message to the

602
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Speaker 1: broader movement or broader country as a whole that for

603
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Speaker 1: some reason thinks that.

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Speaker 2: Well, First and foremost, when I became.

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Speaker 6: Insconsin turning point USA, I was on the Charlie Kirk Show,

606
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Speaker 6: and we talked about pretty much extensively about the black community,

607
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Speaker 6: you know, almost exclusively about the black community. We talked

608
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Speaker 6: about the black community and the problems within the black

609
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Speaker 6: community and how to fix them. Because he wanted to

610
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Speaker 6: help his fellow man. That's the type of man he was.

611
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 6: That was the type of heart that he had. And

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Speaker 6: when TPUSA got.

613
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Speaker 2: Blecksit and got ahold of blexit, that's exactly what he did.

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Speaker 6: He poured the resources into this organization for the education

615
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Speaker 6: and the betterment of the Black community, which resounds to

616
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Speaker 6: the betterment of the entire country.

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Speaker 2: So he had a heart for the black community. He

618
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Speaker 2: had a heart for those.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the amount of resources this man wanted to

620
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Speaker 6: focus on and pour into blecksit to be able to

621
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Speaker 6: help the black community is absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 2: So I'm so sick and tired of these.

623
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Speaker 6: Narratives that because this man spoke truth, because the man

624
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: said the hard things that everyone else shirks away from,

625
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 6: because this man actually spoke to the heart of issues

626
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 6: and not played ca to identity politics and not bend

627
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 6: the knee and bowed down to such individuals, he is

628
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 6: now labeled the pariah, now labeled the racists, and all

629
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Speaker 6: the different fobes that they try to get labeled and

630
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 6: put onto this man. It's absolutely a great I'm sick

631
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 6: and tired of it, and It's time for us to

632
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 6: stand up for this man who stood.

633
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Speaker 1: For us all of the different fobes. I'm gonna start

634
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: using that phobia mean the irrational fear. Clearly the guys

635
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: have a not only irrational fear, just not really much

636
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: fear in general. In Charlie. You know, I hate to

637
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: put you on the spot here, Stephen. One of the

638
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: fun things is not fun things, but you know, one

639
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: of the consoling things is sharing stories about Charlie. I

640
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: we talked about last week remarked on how good he

641
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: got at flicking those hats out of the air, because

642
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: when he first started doing the hats, you know, those

643
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: things are hard to throw, and I, you know, thinking

644
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: that it's easy, it's not. It's not like a frisbee.

645
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: They've got this like certain curvature to them, so you've

646
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: got to have the appropriate risk flick. And I thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. One of the things that I remembered

648
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Speaker 1: if it was just how progressively better he got at

649
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: a thing that did not matter to get better at.

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Speaker 1: That's just kind of I'm going to perfect this insignificant,

651
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: inconsequential thing. And that's just the kind of guy he was.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any any stories of behind the scenes

653
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Speaker 1: that share their viewers of the good times with Charlie?

654
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And first of all, yes, the hot frisbee toss

655
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: has gotten progressively better.

656
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 6: And I let's say it says if they got it,

657
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 6: did you know he was able to let those things sail?

658
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Speaker 2: But you know, absolutely, I mean when it came to

659
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, we were.

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Speaker 6: Especially as a part of campus crashers, being Anthony Anthony

661
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Speaker 6: Watson and as the contributor with turning point USA.

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Speaker 2: We were you know, at a lot of the stops,

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Speaker 2: and you know.

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Speaker 6: The you know back and forth we would have with

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Speaker 6: Charlie was absolutely fantastic, especially when he would arrive on

666
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Speaker 6: the scene.

667
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: Him being able to do his you know, proved me wrongs.

668
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 6: Out there and in the same time, me and Anthony

669
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Speaker 6: Watson will be doing our own proved me wrongs within

670
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Speaker 6: the crowd. Be able to engage with the individuals who

671
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 6: weren't able to get in line and speak to Charlie

672
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 6: was absolutely phenomenal. I love the fact that he facilitated that. Also,

673
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Speaker 6: I remember he set me on my course when especially

674
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Speaker 6: when it came to the black community and the mission

675
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Speaker 6: that I have. He gave me a book called Cynical

676
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 6: Theories right by James Lindsay, Yes indeed, and doctor Helen,

677
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 6: Doctor James Lindsay and Ellen Plunklos. He gave me this book.

678
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 6: He said, I want you to know this, I want

679
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 6: you to learn this. I want you to be a

680
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 6: foremost authority on critical race theory. And I said, sir, yes, sir.

681
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 6: And since then I've been insconsing myself into critical race theory,

682
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 6: debunking it. And that's what I do when I go

683
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 6: to college campuses talk about the negative effects of critical

684
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 6: race theory and what has happened in our country and

685
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 6: our social cohesion as a country and especially within the

686
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Speaker 6: Black community to turn us into the vitriolic, angry, agitated

687
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 6: group that we become. So to see this man give us,

688
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 6: you know, he gave us missions, and it's incumbent on

689
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 6: all of us to perfect and carry out these missions

690
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 6: and complete them to their success. Yeah.

691
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Speaker 1: And you know we've talked about this endlessly too. One

692
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Speaker 1: of his main goals is building other people up up obviously,

693
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Speaker 1: you know you you were one of those. I think

694
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: myself is one of those. Uh turned out he got

695
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: so much confidence in you. You got a whole documentary series,

696
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Race War. Go check it out on Rumble, which again

697
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: was fantastic, but also like a testament to he understands

698
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: he can't do it all himself and would constantly pour

699
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: into people and allow them to, you know, fill any

700
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: of the gaps that he couldn't get to. So yeah,

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00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: with that, uh, you know, we'll we'll be missed greatly,

702
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: but don't worry. We we we got it from here.

703
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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Davis, Turning Point contributor, Thanks so much for taking

705
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Speaker 1: the time and really appreciate it.

706
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

707
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Thank you. Remember you can always email the show TPT

708
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: at tpusa dot com if you got any memories, thoughts,

709
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: well wishes for Charlie or the kirk family broadly TPT

710
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: at tpusa dot com. I said, we're gonna get to

711
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: some some some interesting video. It may upset you, Uh,

712
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: it infuriated me, but but trust me, we're gonna come

713
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: out winning on the other side. That'll be right after

714
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: the break. Don't go away, We'll be right back. Welcome

715
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: back to Turning Point tonight. We're together. We are charting

716
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback. Remember TPT at tpusa

717
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: dot com if you'd like to send any emails in

718
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: your memory of Charlie Kirk well wishes to Charlie, the

719
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: kirk family TPT at tpusa dot com. I know several

720
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: of you are gonna email after we tell you about this,

721
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: because it is abhorrent, It is disgusting, and there's a

722
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: way that we should deal with it, and a way

723
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: that Charlie would have wanted us to deal with it.

724
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Speaker 4: Now.

725
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna show you this solely for the purpose

726
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: of making you angry. It's gonna make you angry, and

727
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna make you upset, but it's something that needs

728
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: to be seen and something that unfortunately is all too

729
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: prevalent in the modern American extreme leftist culture. This, however,

730
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: is an example of an individual with a play of prominence.

731
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: He's the pastor of a church. Now I use the

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Speaker 1: air quotes to say pastor, because after you watch this video,

733
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure that you would think he's deserving

734
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: of that title.

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Speaker 7: Glenn.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and play clip one, but I am

737
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna cut it off at a certain point. So go

738
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: ahead and watch this and again, this is gonna make

739
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: you upset and make you angry, but there is stuff

740
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Check this out.

741
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Speaker 8: For a man who was a proud racist and spent

742
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 8: his entire life sewing seeds of division and hatred into

743
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 8: this land. Tell me that I'm to have compassion for

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00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 8: the death of a man who never showed compassion or

745
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 8: respect for my life. Y'all, there's nowhere in Bible we

746
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 8: are told to honor evil.

747
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead and cut up there. That is

748
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: absolutely of this clown. That is doctor Reverend and again

749
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: I use those air quotes because in so many ways

750
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Speaker 1: I don't actually think he probably has the degree that

751
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: he claims he has on the internet, as is so

752
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: often the case with people as vitriolic as this poor individual,

753
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: Pastor Howard John Wesley, and I wanted to show you

754
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: this picture because this is the screensaver the front page

755
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: of their church's Alfred Street's website, in which he looks

756
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: so holy and humble of Oh look at me, I

757
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: am just this gracious man who's doing the Lord's work. Now,

758
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: he could respond to every one of his accusations. I

759
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: think they're all ridiculous enough to where there really isn't

760
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: any need to respond. He said this avowed racist and

761
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: then called him evil, literally said evil. I don't even

762
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: think we need to make an argument here. There's really

763
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: no sense in arguing against something that is this idiotic

764
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: and this stupid. What it actually is is him an egotistical,

765
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: narcissistic maniac trying to gain attention to himself. Now, I

766
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: just did a little bit of googling, I don't even

767
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: call it research, and well, this guy had about ninety

768
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: thousand Instagram followers before this this weekend, After this at

769
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: the time that we were recording this program, I'm not

770
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: even sure where it's going to be. At the time

771
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: that this airs, he's got about one hundred and ten thousand,

772
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: so he got twenty thousand new Instagram followers. And I

773
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: recognize that doesn't mean everything, but it is indicative of

774
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: a person trying to gain success by saying the most

775
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: awful thing they possibly could in order to garner themselves attention.

776
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: This is something that a narcissist would do, which is

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00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: why we don't even need to necessarily even make arguments

778
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: against him. And here is what I think we should

779
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: actually do. We should pity him. We should show pity

780
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: for someone like this that harbor's so much hatred in

781
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: their heart they feel necessary that it is incumbent of

782
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: them to tell their entire church, all of their parishioners,

783
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: that this man, Charlie Kirk, was evil and a racist,

784
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: among many other things that he said. It's disgusting and

785
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: it's vile and is not even worth our time arguing against,

786
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: but in honor of Charlie and doing exactly what I

787
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: think he would want us to do. Well, there's a

788
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: place on this pastor's website that invites him that could

789
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: invite him to be a guest on a media appearance. Again,

790
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: something that pastors generally have on the front of their

791
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: website is, hey, book my pastor on TV. Well, we

792
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: reached out. We will keep you up to date on

793
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Speaker 1: whether or not Pastor Howard John Wesley of Alfred Street

794
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Church gets back to us. My guess is that he won't.

795
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: But if he does, in the spirit of Charlie, we

796
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: will have him on and we will be in good faith. Now,

797
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let him go on the things that

798
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: he said, and we are especially not going to give

799
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: him a platform to spout more hate. But I would

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00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: love to see him defend his position and claim that

801
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: he is a loving representative of a caring and loving God.

802
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: With what he just said at his church. Again, there's

803
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: no sense in really, even our take take him down.

804
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm done seeing him. There's no sense in arguing against

805
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: this sort of thing. You don't negotiate with evil. And

806
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: I recognize there's gonna be some you know, left wing

807
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: rag that'll take this and say, well, you just called

808
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: him evil, but he called Charlie.

809
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 6: No.

810
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is this, uh, the irony of Somebody

811
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: who says, hey, this is a racial thing tends to

812
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: mean that they're the racist. Somebody who says, well, this

813
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: person is evil without any concrete evidence usually means that

814
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: that person themselves are evil. There's really no reason to

815
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: argue against clowns like this. Instead, we should again pity them.

816
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: Pity the lack of intelligence, Pity the lack of compassion,

817
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: and pity the lack of love and character that this

818
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: man carries around in his heart. Again, Doctor Pastor Reverend

819
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Howard John Wesley, you're more than welcome to come on

820
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: this show and state your case. It will not be

821
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: nice and friendly, but it will be respectful and we

822
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: look forward to hearing from you, which again I doubt

823
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: that we will coming up next. Jd Vance, as you

824
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: are all aware, hosted Charlie Kirks Show.

825
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Speaker 7: Today.

826
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Speaker 1: We will play a clip from him regarding how we

827
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: should respond to the evil, vitriolic response to Charlie Kirk's

828
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: murder from so many people on the radical extreme left.

829
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: And again we're being precise with our language. We are

830
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: not saying all Democrats are all lefties, because of course

831
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: there are several that were horrified by Charlie's assassination. We

832
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: are again saying the extreme left, just like President Trump said,

833
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: just like Charlie would say, and just like JD. Vance said,

834
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: don't go away. We'll be right back after the break.

835
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to turning Point tonight. We're together. We are

836
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: still charting the course of America's cultural comeback. And to

837
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: remind you again TPT at TPUSA dot com, if you

838
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: have any thoughts about that pastor from the last segment,

839
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, send your guesses in on whether or

840
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: not he's going to get back to our team and

841
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: come on the show and defend his horrific and horrible

842
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: speech to a congregation full of supposed Christians who applauded

843
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: that nastiness. See if he's going to come on the

844
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: show again. My bet is no, but I'm curious to

845
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: see what you think. Maybe he's enough of a narcissist

846
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: to think that he can actually wiggle out of some

847
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: of the things he said rhetorically. Again, we would love

848
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: to see him do it on the show. TBT at

849
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com. Love sing your emails and also and

850
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: well wishes and memories of Charlie are always welcome again.

851
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: TPT at TPUSA dot com. So today JD. Vance, the

852
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: Vice President of the United States of which I'm sure

853
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: you're all familiar, hosted Charlie's show and had lots of

854
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: lots of very interesting things to say. But more specifically,

855
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: what's been making the rounds is this clip. I know

856
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: you've probably seen it many times on this network already,

857
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: but it is again true to the point where it's

858
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: worth repeating again and again and again. How do you

859
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: respond to individuals, depraved individuals who are responding with such

860
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: hatred in response to Charlie's death. Well, this is a

861
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: good example. This is again Vice President JD. Vance on

862
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk Show. Watch this.

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00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 7: There is no unity with people who scream at children

864
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 7: over their parents' politics. There is no unity with someone

865
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 7: who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to

866
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 7: excuse his murder. There is no unity with someone who

867
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Speaker 7: harasses an innocent family the day after the father of

868
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Speaker 7: that family lost a dear friend. There is no unity

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Speaker 7: with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination.

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Speaker 1: And there is no unity with.

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Speaker 9: The people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries

872
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 9: of these terrorist sympathizers, who argue that Charlie Kirk, a

873
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 9: loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck

874
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 9: because he spoke words with which they disagree.

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Speaker 1: There is no compromise with evil. You must destroy it.

876
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: That has been the sentiment of everybody on the conservative

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Speaker 1: side of the isle, and even some people on the

878
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: left side of the aisle. Bill Mahersh specifically just comes

879
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: to mind when he roundly condemned any of the idiots

880
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: out there celebrating. But the point that JD is trying

881
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: to make, how in practical terms does that actually work? Well,

882
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: give you a peek into my own household. My wife

883
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: has followed the news. Obviously, I tell her about the

884
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: things that I'm doing day to day, but you know,

885
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: just like any other wife, not exactly the most attuned

886
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: to every single thing going on. And I know some

887
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: of you wives out there who are watching this are

888
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's that she's in a different stage of life.

889
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: We've got a toddler, the house is busy all the time,

890
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: we've got a newborn on the way here momentarily, But basically,

891
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: the bottom line what I'm trying to reiterate is she

892
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: doesn't follow the news all that often. But on Wednesday,

893
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: something changed and I would argue that it's a change

894
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: for the better. We have lots of friends. We have

895
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: lots of liberal friends, like I've mentioned on this show before,

896
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: and so many of them sent well wishes and nice

897
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: messages and condemned. Some of them did condemned the horrific

898
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: reaction on people that they vote with on the liberal

899
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Speaker 1: side of the aisle. But what this looks like practically,

900
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Speaker 1: at least in my household, is my wife decided I'm

901
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: not going to tolerate this anymore. Now. There's certain ways

902
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: that you can get to people. Sometimes you need to

903
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: have a relationship with someone in order to be able

904
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Speaker 1: to bring them into the fold, and sometimes that actually works.

905
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Speaker 1: There are several people that I can think of that

906
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: we started off not agreeing on politics, and nowadays they

907
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: are just as much as radical right wing extremists as

908
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: we are. There are success stories out there, and sometimes

909
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm to cut people loose. What Jennie Vance was saying

910
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: is there is no unifying There is no compromise with

911
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: people that are too far gone from saving. I'm not

912
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: saying they are too far gone from being saved, but

913
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: from us as individuals. The relationship that exists between us

914
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: is so damaged it is beyond repair, and at this point,

915
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: there's no point to continuing that relationship. Again, what it's

916
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: looked like practically in my household is that my wife,

917
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: who generally, as she's you know, scrolling through social media,

918
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Speaker 1: would just kind of ignore some of the things that

919
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: her friends who don't agree with her have said of

920
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: that's just them, that's how they think about things. Well,

921
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: she no longer can ignore them, and I'm proud of

922
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: her for doing that. She no longer can say, ah,

923
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: that's just them, they're just talking. Now. It is an

924
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: immediate confrontation, albeit social media, so it's not as aggressive

925
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: as it might be in real life or just flat

926
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: out blocking people. There is a point where a person

927
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Speaker 1: can only be redeemed by God or their relationship with Jesus,

928
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: and we're just out of the peck picture. Now. That's

929
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: not to say that the door is entirely closed, because

930
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: it never is. Everybody can repent and you should be

931
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: able to forgive those people. But at this point in time,

932
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: in so many case, there is no need to have

933
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Speaker 1: a relationship with someone, not because they disagree with you politically,

934
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Speaker 1: but because they glorify the assassination. They celebrate the murder

935
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Speaker 1: of someone who, like JD. Vance said, said words they

936
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Speaker 1: disagree with. Because that is Charlie's only crime. I'm not

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00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: even calling it a crime. I'm just telling you the

938
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Speaker 1: verbigs that they've used. That is his only crime, disagreeing

939
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Speaker 1: with someone, and for that crime he was murdered in

940
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: cold blood. There is no unity with someone who celebrates that.

941
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Speaker 1: There is no coming together with a group of people

942
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Speaker 1: who thinks that is a good thing. And like the

943
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Speaker 1: Vice President said, you cannot unify with those folks. That's

944
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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us here at turning point tonight.

945
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Speaker 1: I have no idea when we will be getting back

946
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Speaker 1: to the levity that we would take in the news

947
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Speaker 1: of the day, but that time is not now. We

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Speaker 1: will see tomorrow, same time, same place. God bless America.