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Speaker 1: What it is Thursday? And you know people do the

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Speaker 1: TBT on their Instagram and sometimes on their x accounts.

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Speaker 1: We do TBT a little bit differently here. We call it.

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Speaker 1: Don't call it throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We're not calling a throwback, but we are looking back.

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Speaker 1: The year was two thousand and twenty.

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Speaker 3: Jase do Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 1: Doug.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dog.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it from here, Doug. I'll take it from here. So.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw in the news this week,

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Speaker 3: but I think the Athletic did an entire breakdown on this.

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Speaker 3: It's been five years since the NBA bubble. What is

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Speaker 3: the bubble? You say, Well, in twenty twenty, we experienced

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Speaker 3: a worldwide pandemic called COVID nineteen and sports didn't know

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Speaker 3: what the hell to do, so at some point somebody

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Speaker 3: came up with the idea of let's all go into

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Speaker 3: this very was it a clean environment. I don't even

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Speaker 3: know what the word is to call it, but yeah, Bubba,

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Speaker 3: let's call it the bubble. It's in Orlando, I want

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Speaker 3: to say. And let's play some presis season game Apcot Center,

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Speaker 3: wasn't it. Let's play some regular season games and then

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Speaker 3: we'll play some playoffs and it'll all be in this

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Speaker 3: one sequestered area where nobody's allowed inside. We're gonna play

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Speaker 3: with no fans. And of course the Lakers won the championship.

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Speaker 3: I remember most from that whole thing, Kyrie Irving encouraging

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Speaker 3: people not to go. You know the details better than

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Speaker 3: I do. Doug.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyrie Ever hopped on a call and was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we don't need to do anything for them, them

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Speaker 1: go to the bubble. And he did not go with

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, which is crazy and undermined Jock Vaughn, who

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Speaker 1: Now he's associated coach with with with Kansas. The bubble

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Speaker 1: thing is fascinating. Just that that whole year is going

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Speaker 1: to be studied for years and years to come. It

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Speaker 1: has changed how we work, changed how we'd live, change

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Speaker 1: how we value time time with family. I miss a

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Speaker 1: good I missed the the quote unquote lockdown time that time.

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Speaker 1: This is to your point, Jase Stu earlier, was it

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Speaker 1: did give you unfiltered time with your kids and what

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Speaker 4: That was both a blessing and a curse though, Like

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Speaker 5: I think it came at just the right time in

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Speaker 4: If we could go back to that sterile bubble for

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Speaker 4: a moment, the New Zealand, and not really that's sterile,

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Speaker 4: It was like it was like the Great Escape, you know,

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Speaker 4: not sterile bubble. The New Zealander. Steven Adams, longtime NBA veteran.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how quotable he is, but I did

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Speaker 4: pull one drop from the pandemic and Steven Adams when

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Speaker 3: A bloody result, We're living in a bloody result. So

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Speaker 3: I love that because it's just his accent and bloody result.

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Speaker 4: What are we doing here? So uh, that was one

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Speaker 5: It's funny you mentioned that because I right before the

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Speaker 5: what COVID nineteen was. I was actually in Vegas for

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Speaker 5: what I believe was when the last weekends everything on

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Speaker 4: Remember, like Fred Heuberg got like the flu, but it

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Speaker 4: was when everything was starting to shut down during conference tournaments, right,

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Speaker 4: and everybody thought Fred Heuberg had COVID, but he was

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Speaker 4: just really like just coming down with something on the

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Speaker 5: I was working with our friend Bernie Fratto, who does

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Speaker 5: we have to have this also much like the bubble,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's so funny. I have a friend

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Speaker 1: doing games for the Big Ten Network and for Compass

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten Tournament's been canceled, Like oh oh that

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Speaker 4: I was so bummed out when the NCAA tournament was

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Speaker 4: canceled because Luca Garza he would go on to win

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Speaker 4: I was really excited to seeing him leave in the

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Speaker 5: We were all sitting around watching Korean baseball in that

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Speaker 5: how to hold like sports behind closed doors. That bubble

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was like CGI fans. I was unemployed

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Speaker 5: I think the athletics could really use some virtual fans

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Speaker 3: I have my my personal story. My second personal story

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Speaker 3: see any of our talent doing something they shouldn't or

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Speaker 3: And then I fire open my Instagram after reading this

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Speaker 3: this email, and Rob Parker is on the Golden Girls

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Speaker 3: So I feel if I do that, I felt the

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Speaker 3: need to escalate that quickly. He's on a cruise, Rob,

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Speaker 3: get COVID.

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Speaker 1: It's all good, Ah, Rob, you thought Tom Brady was

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Speaker 1: the luckiest of all the time, I'm the luckiest of

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Speaker 1: all time. By the way, Rob Parker had his arm

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Speaker 1: around older women, like you know, Rob Parker is actually

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Speaker 1: sneaky old.

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Speaker 3: Did I knew that? But these were he was uh.

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Speaker 5: Girls, Rob loves Golden Girls.

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Speaker 3: He was fraternizing with girls in their golden years.

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Speaker 1: I got it. But again, I don't think he's that

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Speaker 3: It's fine. I didn't get COVID.

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Speaker 3: Look? I know how old rob Is and I'm not

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Speaker 3: going I'm going to be a gentleman. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to disclose.

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Speaker 1: It's he's a guy you can disclose.

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Speaker 5: How what why are you doing this? His age is

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Speaker 5: on Wikipedia?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't turn he's sixty one, I think right,

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Speaker 4: he turned sixty last year.

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Speaker 1: Well there, you just gave it away. Now you now

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Speaker 1: you just aged him. You went you literally flipped.

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Speaker 3: Well Chris Christ shouted at me, So Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Correct, But I mean you talk like no backbone jays

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Speaker 3: J I'm the one who had no backbone there, jellyfish.

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm I'm really I'm looking for j stew

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Speaker 3: I agree, Sam, that was very questionable.

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Speaker 1: You waved the white flag quicker than the French in

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Speaker 1: World War Two.

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Speaker 3: We're good, Get me started on that.

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Speaker 1: We're good.

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Speaker 3: I think that the crazy thing was like so as

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Speaker 3: the bubble started, I saw an interview with famed NBA

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Speaker 3: listening to right now on your Phone's what's the song

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Speaker 3: that's got your interest? And he said this and it

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Speaker 3: comes with a very sad story, good jam. This is

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Speaker 3: Maroon five memories. I don't know about you guys, but

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Speaker 3: I associate this song most with the funeral for Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 3: They played this at the services, and of course in

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Speaker 3: But I always remember this song. I was always associated

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was a tough, traumatic time, and

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Speaker 4: I was with Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger, your former producer.

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Speaker 5: Getting the Dream, Living the Dream.

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Speaker 4: I was with your former producer Gavin Kinsell, former Update

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Speaker 4: anchor David Gaskin. We were all on the air doing

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Speaker 4: that Kobe had perished in a helicopter crash. It was

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Speaker 4: just it was just it was a different world we

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Speaker 4: Big Ten season, like we were all they were trying

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Speaker 4: Ten started late. I think they played eight games. They're

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Speaker 1: Six Iowa started Western one all of them day is

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Speaker 4: But you know what you want it, so yes, up,

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Speaker 4: up is down, days night, black is white. Iowa under

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Speaker 4: Brian Farrence had the third best scoring offense in the

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Speaker 3: This that year.

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Speaker 4: They started out the Big Ten season the you know,

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Speaker 4: But I look at that offense, it's just this weird,

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Speaker 4: It was a thing of beauty that if I didn't

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Speaker 5: I think my greatest regret from that year sports wise

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Speaker 5: the Olympics, and I had wanted to go to Japan.

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Speaker 5: I'd made a bunch of arrangements and COVID blasted them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember Joe zat.

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Speaker 1: For the Dodgers. The Dodgers win the World Series and

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Speaker 1: it was on during Halloween.

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Speaker 5: I hate the Mickey Mouse talk from these years too,

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Speaker 5: like just Mickey Mouse Championships, all of that. I hate

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Speaker 1: It just I think it's very different.

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Speaker 3: I feel I've another bloody result. I want to mention

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Speaker 3: one thing before we leave.

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Speaker 4: So Ohio State ended up and Dan it's not gonna

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Speaker 4: let me bringing this up because it's probably not a

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Speaker 4: great memory for him. The Buckeyes, though, ended up, you know,

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Speaker 4: pulling away from Northwestern in the title game. They went

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Speaker 4: on to play an Alabama team thirteen to zero. They

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Speaker 4: played a full season pretty much. A lot of people

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Speaker 4: regard that Alabama team as being like Nick Saban's best

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Speaker 4: a very very good Ohio State Buckeyes team fifty two

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Speaker 1: And that is don't call it a cut, don't call

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Speaker 1: some football? Sure, let's talk some football. Danny Canell is

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Speaker 1: our guest. DK is a college football analyst. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he played at Florida State the nash Football League. Covers

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Speaker 1: radio show. You see him on TV. He does a

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Speaker 1: little bit of everything, Dave, Let's start with arch Manning.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like he's the only player that

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Speaker 1: And especially with transfer portal guys moving here or there,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of him as a player? Like,

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Speaker 1: how good is he actually from your perspective?

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Speaker 2: Boy, that's the million dollar question. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe Tim Tebow, but even that hype wasn't

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Speaker 2: I get why there's a lot of you know, it

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Speaker 2: even if your name isn't arch Banding, even if you're

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Speaker 2: I think he'll be good. I think it might take

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Speaker 2: the SEC championship once again. And Calen de Moore better hope.

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Speaker 2: So because the word and I talk to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people in Tuscaloosa that if they don't make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: he's going to be on the hot seat already, which

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Speaker 2: is kind of crazy, but that's the Alabama standard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. James Franklin has done a great job

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Speaker 1: at Vanderbilt, a great job Penn State with reception of

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Speaker 1: when you play people that actually matter, right yep. And

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Speaker 1: at Vandy you could go, hey, they're Vandy, You're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to beat the big boys. But at Penn State

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Speaker 1: it's different. Huge expectations for his team. Can they live

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Speaker 1: up to them?

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Speaker 2: I think they can, Like I've really been impressed. You

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Speaker 2: mentioned against top five teams at Penn State, James Franklin

450
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Speaker 2: is one in fifteen. He only has one win over

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Speaker 2: a top five opponent and that was Ohio State back

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. He's come up short. Even last year,

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Speaker 2: as good as they went, they won a couple of

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Speaker 2: playoff games, they did not get that top five win.

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Speaker 2: Like they're still looking for it. So but the thing

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Speaker 2: that I like about him is I think there's a

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Speaker 2: commonality with the last two national champions. Michigan won it

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Speaker 2: two years ago, Ohio State won it last year, and

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Speaker 2: there was almost a team mantra, like you saw guys

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Speaker 2: pass up the NFL to come back just to win

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Speaker 2: a national championship. And that's what they have. They've got

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Speaker 2: both running back Cathron Allen and Nick Singleton both could

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Speaker 2: have gone to the NFL. They decided to come back. Center.

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Speaker 2: Who's a really great, you know, offensive lineman, Nick Dawkins.

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Speaker 2: He's actually Darryl Dawkins's son, the Chocolate Thunder. That's his

466
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Speaker 2: son that's still playing. And he's he's he came back.

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Speaker 2: He could have done the NFL. So you got an

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Speaker 2: offensive line. Drew Aller is a young quarterback, and I

469
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Speaker 2: really think that Drew Aller probably has maybe more pressure

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Speaker 2: on him than even James Franklin because he's been really good,

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Speaker 2: but on the biggest stages he's come up short, like

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Speaker 2: he's just kind of come up flat. If you go

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Speaker 2: back to that playoff game against Notre Dame, did not

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Speaker 2: compete complete one pass to a wide receiver, and you know,

475
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter drive, they put it on his shoulders

476
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Speaker 2: with a minute to go and he throws an interception.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame kicks a field goal and the game's over.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a ton of pressure on him, but

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Speaker 2: I talked to all of them. I talked to all

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Speaker 2: these players last week in Las Vegas. They don't seem

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Speaker 2: overwhelmed by the pressure. It's more of a challenge for them.

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Speaker 2: And the thing that I love hearing from James Franklin

483
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Speaker 2: is like, this is where most programs wish they could be.

484
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Speaker 2: Where you're getting pressure to win a national championship like

485
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Speaker 2: ten and two isn't good enough. I think that's probably

486
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Speaker 2: the proper mindset, and I think they're like, I love

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Speaker 2: their mindset. I think they're confident. I think they've got

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Speaker 2: a veteran team, so I do think they're boys to

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Speaker 2: sort of break that curse versus the best opponents they face.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tridio. Danny Canell

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Speaker 1: is our guest, d Q. Let's we've done a lot

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Speaker 1: of the South right, We've done some Penn State. What

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Speaker 1: about Lincoln Riley and USC. First year, obviously they flipped

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Speaker 1: that thing around. Second year became a lot of disappointment,

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Speaker 1: and you know, now he's had a lot of staff

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Speaker 1: turnover as well. What do the Trojans look like?

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Speaker 2: So they're a team another team I think that's kind

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Speaker 2: of flying under the radar, Like you know, either it's

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Speaker 2: Ohio State to repeat, it's Penn State, maybe even Oregon

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Speaker 2: to go back to back in the Big Ten title,

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Speaker 2: even though they ask some questions. But USC is a

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Speaker 2: program that I think the pressure is starting to build

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Speaker 2: for Lincoln Riley, and you mentioned it, he fired his

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Speaker 2: strength coach like late this offseason. I think he saw

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Speaker 2: a deficiency there really in toughness. And you know, the

506
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Speaker 2: strength coach is arguably the most important position on a

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Speaker 2: college football stat staff, especially because you're dealing with young players.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but like from the time

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Speaker 2: I was eighteen to twenty two was just a massive

510
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Speaker 2: like maturity strength building time when your body really starts

511
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Speaker 2: to take shape as an adult, and if you maximize that,

512
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Speaker 2: that's when you can get the most out of your team.

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Speaker 2: And they just have fallen short in that area. A

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Speaker 2: little bit curious what they did at quarterbacks. So last

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Speaker 2: year they had Miller Moss and then they benched him

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Speaker 2: for Jade Mayeva, who was a transfer that came in,

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Speaker 2: and Lincoln Riley felt good enough about Maeva that he

518
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Speaker 2: did not hit the portal. He didn't go out and

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Speaker 2: try to sign one of the bigger names that was

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Speaker 2: available in the portal. So he feels pretty good about it.

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Speaker 2: And they do have a lot of players returning on

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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, and they were so

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Speaker 2: here's and I asked Lincoln Roley this last week because

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Speaker 2: they were close last year and that's the worst thing

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Speaker 2: that any fan base wants to hear, right, you don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear your team is close, want to hear excuses.

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Speaker 2: But they really were. They had a ton of one

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Speaker 2: possession games. Penn State comes to mind. They're playing at

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Speaker 2: the coliseum at home. They have that game, you know,

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Speaker 2: within a possession, they end up giving it up, losing

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Speaker 2: overtime to Penn State. Notre Dame is another one couple

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Speaker 2: pick sixes in that game, totally flips like on a dime.

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Speaker 2: So I think this is a team that is close,

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Speaker 2: but nobody wants to hear about close, and it's got

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Speaker 2: to be about the results for Lincoln Riley and USC.

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Speaker 2: But I do think the Big ten is so like

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Speaker 2: after you get past the top three teams, which really

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Speaker 2: are Ohio State, Penn State, and Oregon Michigan right behind there.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like USC should be right in that

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Speaker 2: conversation is sort of the next man up, and I

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Speaker 2: do think that being the case, they should be in

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Speaker 2: that conversation for the playoffs late. And if they're not,

543
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Speaker 2: it's another team where I think USC is gonna have

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Speaker 2: some serious soul search and do what to do at

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Speaker 2: the head coaching position. I know he's probably got a

546
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Speaker 2: massive buyout because it was a super you know, a

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Speaker 2: super high price tag that Lincoln Riley came with. But

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Speaker 2: I do think is a critical year that Lincoln Riley's

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Speaker 2: got to step forward and take this program right back

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Speaker 2: towards the top of the Big ten.

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Speaker 1: Stutt Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tradier Danny Caneo

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Speaker 1: as our guest. We haven't mentioned any Big twelve teams right,

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Speaker 1: and Arizona State came from nowhere to somewhere in the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve miles Mount Oaklama State beats Arkansas, then completely

555
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Speaker 1: falls apart, becomes discombobulated. It's a league that before the

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Speaker 1: season last year, could have gotten two teams locked in

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Speaker 1: to the playoff, didn't roll the dice and that turned

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Speaker 1: out to backfire. What do you think with the Big

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Speaker 1: Twelve this year?

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Speaker 3: I do so.

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Speaker 2: Brett Yormark, their commissioner. He loves selling the conference as

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Speaker 2: the deepest conference in college football, which is I think

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Speaker 2: it's both a blessing and a curse because you're almost

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Speaker 2: better served to have one great team and like ACC

565
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Speaker 2: might be in a better position because Clenson's a heavy favorite.

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Speaker 2: They're almost a lock to make the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 2: and they should be eleven and one or ten and two.

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Speaker 2: And in that conversation, the Big Twelve is extremely competitive,

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Speaker 2: but there's not a lot of separation between the top

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Speaker 2: team and probably the tenth or eleventh team. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's just a like in it. But even as I

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Speaker 2: say that, last year, Arizona State was predicted to finish

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Speaker 2: last and they were supposed to have four and a

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Speaker 2: half wins, and they go out and win the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: That's the type of conference it is. I think it's

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Speaker 2: extremely wide open. They've got probably the most interesting case

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Speaker 2: study though, in Texas Tech. Because Texas Tech, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you've talked about the story, They've got a booster

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Speaker 2: out there, Cody Campbell, who played at Texas Tech as

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Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. He's a young billionaire. He's only in

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Speaker 2: his forties and he's basically been the te Boone Pickens

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Speaker 2: or the Phil Knight of you know, famous boosters who

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Speaker 2: really helped put their programs on the map or put

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Speaker 2: them back in position for a national championship. They've bought

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Speaker 2: the best roster in the Big Twelve this offseason. They

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Speaker 2: have the top portal class in the country, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of it's on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: But we haven't seen that berimout. You know, just work.

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Speaker 2: And we see it in baseball, where the highest spending

590
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Speaker 2: team doesn't always win. Sometimes they do. But in a

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Speaker 2: sport like football, it's such a continuity game where you

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Speaker 2: want chemistry and you want players all doing the same thing,

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Speaker 2: and execution is so important. With eleven guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: not one can screw up that. Can they do this

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Speaker 2: in one year? And the good news is they weren't

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Speaker 2: awful last year. They were pretty good at eight wins.

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Speaker 2: But can they push through? And if they do, I

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Speaker 2: think it could encourage other billionaire boosters. There aren't many

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Speaker 2: of them to follow the same suit, so it's a

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Speaker 2: ton of pressure on their head. Coach Joy maguire, But

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Speaker 2: it's a very interesting case study. But it's filled with teams.

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Speaker 2: Arizona State I think is going to be right there again. Utah,

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Speaker 2: who had a bad first year in the Big twelve

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Speaker 2: after moving from the PAC twelve. I think they could

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Speaker 2: be right towards the top. They were at the top

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Speaker 2: of the pack twelve before they left there. Kansas State failure.

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Speaker 2: I mean there are legitimately five to six teams that

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Speaker 2: can make a case for and say yep, I could

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Speaker 2: see them winning and even saying that it might be

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Speaker 2: a team that I don't even give you because it is.

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Speaker 1: That wide open, awesome stuff. Tq DK. Can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see you on the TV. Love talking football with you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was just in the back, and I think

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Speaker 5: uh Brie, one of our sound editors, was kind of

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Speaker 5: bereft for what the Dodgers had given up to get Hire,

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Speaker 5: get him.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but A J.

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Speaker 5: Peler seems to be aggressive. I know, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how far back the Padres are right now, but they

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Speaker 5: have made it like five movie B E aggressive.

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Speaker 1: A B E A G A G G R E

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Speaker 1: S E S S I V E aggressive b E aggressive.

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Speaker 5: It just feels like this trade deadline in particular, I've

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Speaker 5: seen a lot of teams a lot more aggressive than

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Speaker 5: they've usually been.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's because there's more teams involved that can make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs right. That's the whole idea of expanding the

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Speaker 1: playoffs is what more teams think they got a chance.

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Speaker 1: More you get a chance, more you're around, more people

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Speaker 1: putting it in the stadiumre people put in the state,

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Speaker 1: the more money you make.

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Speaker 3: I think the Astros have officially told the sports world

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Speaker 3: they no longer give a crop about that reputation they

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Speaker 3: have as cheaters. I remember a part of them allowing

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Speaker 3: Carlos Carrea to go off into that wild free agency

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Speaker 3: that he did was kind of a that's one person

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Speaker 3: less that is going to be associated with that twenty

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Speaker 3: seventeen team. Sure, ol Twove's been there the whole time.

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Speaker 3: I was caught heckling him at a game. Recently, al

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Speaker 3: Twove has been the one guy. And then they bring

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Speaker 3: back Korea and they're like, screw it. So that gives

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Speaker 3: me one more player to hate on that team this year.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Just like serious question, is Carlos Korea any good anymore?

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Speaker 3: Not? Really? No, he hasn't been close to what he

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Speaker 3: was when he was last an Astro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when he knew what pitches were coming, he was

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when he knew the pitches. That makes it easier,

687
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Speaker 3: it really does. But no, that's hey.

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Speaker 1: You know when I have when I have the questions

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Speaker 1: to the test, I'm way better at tests.

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Speaker 5: He's right now batting two sixty seven right now with

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Speaker 5: a OPS of seven oh four.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem with what you did. You went from

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Speaker 1: like batting average, which is like old school stats, to OPS,

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Speaker 1: which is fairly new schooling.

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Speaker 5: And I I feel like there's a lot of stats.

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Speaker 5: There are a lot more new new schoolly than ops though,

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Speaker 5: And I think that's my trouble, Like, look, I'm more

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Speaker 5: of a football guy. I feel like OPS slugging on

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Speaker 5: base percentage does almost feel like middle aged stats now

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Speaker 5: because you know there's a lot more status.

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Speaker 1: You're right they are, But again, you have to give context.

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Speaker 1: If you say, what's he what's his OPS?

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Speaker 5: Zero point seven oh four?

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you know what most people will driving around think, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I know that's just numbers. Does that sound good? Is

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Speaker 1: that good? That sounds good to me?

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Speaker 3: So it's not. It's not great. It's not great, Bobs,

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Speaker 3: that is it bad?

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Speaker 1: Is it good?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, just just for you say like

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Speaker 1: he's one of the top ten players in OPS, you

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Speaker 1: say he's one of the bottom ten players OPS average

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Speaker 1: sixty seven, and we're like, well, I don't know that

715
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Speaker 1: that doesn't sound great. It's batting average. But there are

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Speaker 1: to sixty seven that we considered to be great players.

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Speaker 1: Why because they're on base all the time, you know,

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Speaker 1: or they hit a ton of home runs. So the

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Speaker 1: people you think, if you're going to provide some form

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Speaker 1: of new eight, the old statistics don't work because nobody

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Speaker 1: cares about him anymore except for home runs more than RBI.

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Speaker 3: Just for a gat new ones.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, take it, Doug.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it from here. Okay, if you if you

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Speaker 3: hit over eight hundred ops, that's above average. The elite

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Speaker 3: players Aaron Judge, Shohey et over one thousand. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: seven hundred to eight hundred is like average mid mediocre.

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Speaker 3: He's a mediocre player who makes a lot more than

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Speaker 3: he should.

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Speaker 1: Is he mid?

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Speaker 3: Or is he sus sus?

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Speaker 5: I think sus like you were talking about. When he

733
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Speaker 5: knew what pitches were coming, he was like a nine

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Speaker 5: hundred ops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he used to be a star. Now he's

736
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Speaker 1: just a guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just a guy's a jag all right.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of guys out there, John Harbaugh had a lot

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Speaker 5: of praise for his quarterback Lamar Jackson. We're getting into

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Speaker 5: that time of the year, We're starting to get a

742
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Speaker 5: lot of hype and getting a lot of teams. But

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Speaker 5: John was very aggressive with his praise. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's so many things, and Lamar is a person.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing.

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Speaker 6: Obviously I appreciate the most, the leader of the person,

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Speaker 6: the genuine human being that he is, and I just

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Speaker 6: I love him as a as a person. But I

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Speaker 6: think from a football standpoint, just go to the most basic,

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Speaker 6: simple thing. Lamar is a passer. He is a historically

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Speaker 6: good passer. And that's really quite a statement because of

752
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Speaker 6: the of the narrative that's been surrounding him ever since

753
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Speaker 6: the beginning. Lamar Jackson can throw the football. He can

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Speaker 6: throw it every kind of way you make, every kind

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Speaker 6: of throw, any kind of way you want. He's as

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Speaker 6: good as any guy, any pastor that has ever been.

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Speaker 6: And I think now the numbers are proven that. So

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Speaker 6: that's the thing I'm kind of a little bit proud of,

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Speaker 6: but also a little bit like, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: What have we learned from that?

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Speaker 6: You know, you can take a big picture, you can

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Speaker 6: say from a society standpoint, football standpoint, what have we

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Speaker 6: learned from that? What kind of question do we ask ourselves?

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Speaker 6: But Mar Jackson as a passer is historically great, No,

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Speaker 6: he's not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he is, then he's a choke artist

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I just don't think that that reputation is not there

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Speaker 5: yet at all for Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Might never be all let me, let me help you

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Speaker 1: out here. Okay, so here's the falloff last like his

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. In the regular season, forty one touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: four interceptions. That's unbelievable. So he's right in that context,

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Speaker 1: that was Lamar Jackson last year should have been the

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Speaker 1: MVP in eight career playoff games. That's half of a season. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're three and five. Can't put it all on him.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen hundred yards passing, it's fine, right, it's like thirty

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Speaker 1: five hundred yards. That's below average. Grated Weather's worse. Ten touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: seven interceptions. He's also fumbled the ball seven times in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So either he's just a choke artist and not good

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I don't think that's the case, or

784
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs people try and make him beat him

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Speaker 1: with his arm and that's not what he does best.

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson is great. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: he's not as bad a passer. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: when people said he wasn't a good passer coming out,

789
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Speaker 1: myself included He's proved a lot of it wrong. But

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Speaker 1: no one's like he couldn't throw a football. It was

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Speaker 1: for the NFL to be a.

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Speaker 5: Passer, all right, real quick? Last one here, So a

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Speaker 5: big scrip in the world of can drinks. What speaks

794
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Speaker 5: to me My father and grandfather both worked in bottling.

795
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Speaker 5: There's a recall notice just posted yesterday by the FDA

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Speaker 5: that an unspecified number of high Noon cans actually contained

797
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 5: Celsius while several flavors Celsius contain high Noon. Now this

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Speaker 5: is a big a mix up. Is high Noon is

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Speaker 5: vodka Seltzer and Celsius's energy drink?

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Speaker 1: Just to check, hel pass is all caffeine? Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: non is all is vodka.

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Speaker 5: And Burst in the back drinks stuck out.

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Speaker 1: Show, Fox Sports Trait. Check out the podcast at the bell.

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