WEBVTT - Budding Potential

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid Verbal coll that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be happy, you want to be happy for

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<v Speaker 2>dake Ado State? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Solid Verbal boys and girls.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is ty Hildenbrand, joining me as always over

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<v Speaker 1>there in New York City, my good friend Dan Rubinstein.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir, sir, how are you? I'm pretty good. I'm slowly

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<v Speaker 2>but surely moving into what will eventually become the home

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<v Speaker 2>studio slash second room, slash soft and soundproof experience. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going pretty well. I've got three three shoe boxes stacked

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<v Speaker 2>up for my mic stands that is hosting the microphone

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<v Speaker 2>on which I'm speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I don't know if I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this in the show, but I recently purchased a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa yeah, and that means I get to rebuild my

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<v Speaker 1>studio in a different locale, which I'm very excited about

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<v Speaker 1>in all the nerdiest possible ways. You know me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about it. Right, So you're building your studio

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<v Speaker 1>now in your new Prisi and in a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks I'm going to be rebuilding solid Verble. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be West Soliverble, Pennsylvania headquarters over here on this

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<v Speaker 1>end of things. So exciting times ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like a solid verbal compound because you like

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<v Speaker 2>that so much more room. So on top of everything

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<v Speaker 2>that I assume is horrible about moving into and buying

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<v Speaker 2>and dealing with all of the extracurriculars involved with buying

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<v Speaker 2>a house, right, I mean, it's all good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, it's not ultimately good, but I'm just saying to

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<v Speaker 1>truly complain about. But yeah, in addition to all the

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<v Speaker 1>other considerations, Yeah, we've got to consider acoustics and lighting

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<v Speaker 1>and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, No, I'm thinking specifically, like there are headaches involved

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<v Speaker 2>with buying a house. Sure, oh, you you specific are

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<v Speaker 2>probably spending and I'm just guessing here seven to eight mil. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, you're dealing with inspectors, and you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>down payments in the bank and which neighborhood and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you have to consider things like school districts eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, proximity to family. There's just a ton

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<v Speaker 2>that goes into it. I assume having never gone through

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<v Speaker 2>that process, but something that I feel like won't be

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<v Speaker 2>a headache. You have like a new audio pet project

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<v Speaker 2>to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely, And you could ask Solid Life Kate about this,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd back me up. But while she's in there asking

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<v Speaker 1>about flooring and colors, I'm wondering, Okay, where do we

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<v Speaker 1>set up the internet beacons in here to get optimal coverage?

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<v Speaker 1>And which one of these rooms is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the eventual soliverrable studios?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the most how's the backyard? Backyard's much bigger?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can do my little Saturday Facebook things from

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<v Speaker 1>an actual yard. Now going a little nature walk.

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<v Speaker 2>That's incredible. More to come on that, but okay, I see,

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed the process leading up to your web Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just dissecting and deep diving.

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<v Speaker 1>Every Well, we'll tell story. We'll have story time after

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is on ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So as it relates more to College ESA and

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<v Speaker 2>the Solid Verbal what's new we got? What's not new?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan? We got a lot going on here. You're building

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<v Speaker 1>a studio. I'm about to rebuild mine. Uh, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a new website coming, yes at solidverbal dot com. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had people write in and ask about that here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Our website isn't so much an attraction for people because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks who listen to the show, they

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<v Speaker 1>just subscribe in a podcast app. But we decided that

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to work with some of our friends, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll discuss in a little bit more detail

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<v Speaker 1>once things actually start to materialize. But we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>build a better experience for people who were just finding

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<v Speaker 1>out about us, or for people who you know, might

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<v Speaker 1>want to go and find out about a deal something

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<v Speaker 1>that they heard on the show. So we are in

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<v Speaker 1>the process of getting the new website built right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a new website. In addition to that, we've

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that in August we're going to do a live

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<v Speaker 2>show for the Fantasy Things Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, that is correct, the live show. Yeah, very exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be doing that in Chicago, Illinois. We are boom,

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<v Speaker 2>very excited. A very big city for verballers, a big

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<v Speaker 2>city for college football, being that so many people that

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<v Speaker 2>go to Big ten schools find themselves in the Windy City,

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<v Speaker 2>the second City, shy Town, and we could not be

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<v Speaker 2>more excited to be doing our live show there, so

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<v Speaker 2>that will be at some point hopefully mid.

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<v Speaker 1>Ish Yeah, I would say earliest early to mid August

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be the ideal target for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And part of the reason what are we doing

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<v Speaker 2>the show in mid April? Yeah, part of the reason

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<v Speaker 2>we are saying it this far ahead of time is

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<v Speaker 2>we want to make sure that the venue that we

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<v Speaker 2>choose is the best we can possibly do for the

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Things draft, because we know we have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of listeners in Chicago, we want to make sure everybody

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<v Speaker 2>can fit in Atlanta. Was a super fun show, but

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately the venue was kind of a pain. We were

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<v Speaker 2>setting up chairs before everything started, which is not ideal

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<v Speaker 2>as we wanted to get ready for the show itself,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were promised certain capacities that weren't really accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>So we want to go above and beyond for our

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago show. And that said, tie, if anybody out there

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<v Speaker 2>knows Chicago venues, live podcast venues, somebody in Atlanta too

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<v Speaker 2>late had suggested a brewery that does live events whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>let us know. We know we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago people there, so yeah, we do. We are. We

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<v Speaker 2>could not be more excited for our Chicago show.

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<v Speaker 1>That is going to be our big end of summer

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<v Speaker 1>shindig and gosh, you're coming in hot here. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you took a nap before this show. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if the publicist had a chance to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get out in front of the story. You know, sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we have one, but still there Coago. It will

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<v Speaker 1>be for the fantasy things in twenty eighteen. More to

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<v Speaker 1>come on that front and reach on out if you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested at sliverbal at gmail dot com, also Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>all the social channels, and there may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>be a bonus live show city yeah in there at

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<v Speaker 1>some point as well. It's something that Dan and I

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<v Speaker 1>are in the process of discussing now. But lord knows,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been enough interest around the country and at some

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<v Speaker 1>point we want to make sure that we get to

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<v Speaker 1>all of these cool places where we've got real hubs

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<v Speaker 1>of verballers. So we'll see more to come on that front,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll you know, might be on the East coast.

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<v Speaker 2>We might try to go Central Texas or something like that, California.

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<v Speaker 2>We know we have a good number of listeners, so

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<v Speaker 2>we have options. But we are for sure doing the

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Things Draft show in Chicago, for sure, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Plan on it probably a Saturday in early to mid August.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct the final note, While we're talking about sites and shows,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about shirts. Because the Solid Verbal shirts have

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<v Speaker 1>been immensely popular over the last couple of years, we

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<v Speaker 1>have gradually gotten both better and worse at taking those orders,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we have a completely rethought model that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be rolling out in tandem with our upcoming website,

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<v Speaker 1>where we'll not only offer new Solid Verbal shirts, but

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<v Speaker 1>also other show related items as well, and maybe items

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<v Speaker 1>that are just more school or town related as well,

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<v Speaker 1>strapless bras. Now I realize that's not exactly the most

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<v Speaker 1>specific of details, but there will be more forthcoming on

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<v Speaker 1>that front. We've had great response to the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>we sold in the past, and we're excited about what's

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<v Speaker 1>to come in the future. Here in the immediate future,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully in the next couple months or so.

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<v Speaker 2>New Solid verbal shirts, new non Solid verbal shirts, but

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<v Speaker 2>having to do with relevant interests in a streamline package.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, that makes sense absolutely all right, well, Nail,

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, the sun is out and it seems as

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<v Speaker 1>if it's going to be much warmer by the end

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<v Speaker 1>this week. A lot of folks are in this boat

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<v Speaker 1>now where where spring is right around the corner, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's starting to feel real, And so we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do a show on the heels of our

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<v Speaker 1>spring forward show from a week ago something that was

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<v Speaker 1>also spring themed. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct? Can I ask you something anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to dances in like seventh grade, junior high,

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<v Speaker 2>middle school? Did you do you remember those dances?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't got a whole lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Okay, Well, I'm going to open up something for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've watched movies. I'm sure you've watched episode

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<v Speaker 2>of Boy Meets World in two. Here's the general dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to think about. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of shy thirteen and fourteen year olds out there, ty, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was one of them. That's why I didn't go to

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<v Speaker 1>that many of these.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get you, and a lot goes into having

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<v Speaker 2>a good time at one of these dances, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know you're going through changes. You got a crush on

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<v Speaker 2>a fella or a lady across the dance floor, and

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<v Speaker 2>the people who generally end up succeeding at these dances

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<v Speaker 2>in dancing and having a great time and getting over

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<v Speaker 2>their nerves. Are the people that have things put together,

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<v Speaker 2>that they dress up nicely, they're confident, they're shameless, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't care about having some fun on the dance floor.

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<v Speaker 2>They just look like they're having a good time and

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<v Speaker 2>other people want to be around. Are you describing yourself here?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this say? No, I'm definitely not. But there are

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<v Speaker 2>different types of people at these dances. You mentioned that

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<v Speaker 2>you were a shier kid. That's totally fine. I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was. Basically, we spend a lot of time on

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<v Speaker 2>this show talking about the popular kids, talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>kids who just get out there, who have certain advantages.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're tall, maybe they're tan, maybe they're strong, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they're athletes, maybe they are they have great hair, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they're just super confident. You know, we talk about those

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<v Speaker 2>kids a lot. Tie and we're not going to go

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<v Speaker 2>fully shy or fully sitting in the corner with a

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<v Speaker 2>cup of punch or something like that. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of kids at these dances, these junior high dances, tie,

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<v Speaker 2>they have potential. They're starting to put things together and

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<v Speaker 2>understand how that world of the dance works world of

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<v Speaker 2>the dance. Sure, maybe they cleaned up nicely. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>made a good impression in social studies the past couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. Somebody they might have a crush on. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the dance floor. They're on the

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<v Speaker 2>cusp tie. They're showing things, they're ready.

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<v Speaker 1>To blow, really playing this up.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you know what I'm talking about here, Ty, We

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<v Speaker 2>have ten teams here today. These are not the popular

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<v Speaker 2>kids tie, but they're showing potential. They clean up nicely

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<v Speaker 2>at times, they're wearing nice shoes. Hey, those pants look

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<v Speaker 2>really nice. Brandon look like that when he wasn't covered in.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirt, Brandon, Right. Sure, So we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten teams here today that we admittedly don't talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. And I don't think and I think you'll

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<v Speaker 2>agree with me. I don't know if that's necessarily right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never right. We hear from all sorts of fan bases.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the pleasure of meeting with a longtime listener

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, and his response was that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the show. I wish you'd talked more Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>And we can very easily meet a Michigan fan who

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<v Speaker 1>would say gosh, I love the show. I really wish

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<v Speaker 1>he talked to Michigan. It seems no matter what fan

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<v Speaker 1>base we have the pleasure of interacting with, they always

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<v Speaker 1>wish we talked about their team more.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember on signing day an Ohio State fan was like,

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<v Speaker 2>they only spent five minutes on Ohio State's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the problem because we're a national show, and

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the teams here that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss today aren't ones that we had as much a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to discuss as perhaps we would have liked. An

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<v Speaker 1>important note here on how we picked these teams. M HM,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan and I went through in a g chat and

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<v Speaker 1>we looked at all the teams that we think we

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about the big market schools, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it that, the bigger blue blood programs

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is used to hearing about on this show

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<v Speaker 1>and other shows. We eliminated them from the equation your

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<v Speaker 1>lee high's your last yeats, your buckets. We had five

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<v Speaker 1>round serpentine fantasy style draft. Yes, I had the first pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I took Arkansas Welcome Hogs. I'm going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>them first here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of promise Ti promising potential. This is

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<v Speaker 2>this is the very small periodic table of elements.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct. Yeah, so let me start with Arkansas, now

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<v Speaker 1>that I've given away the farm here, Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hogs went four and eight last year. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>fired Brett Beilamah, which is so of a long time coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas fans were had to be done, I think, ready

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<v Speaker 1>to see the end of Brett Bieloman. Not because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like Brett Bielma, but Brett Bielima just he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>deliver on the promise. When he came in to Faetteville.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a sense that he was going to build

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<v Speaker 1>this awesome ground attack, and to some extent he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did in spots. But the problem was defense. They

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't stop anybody, right, we saw that last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave up something like thirty six points per game,

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<v Speaker 1>so that being the worst in the SEC, the offense

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not being entirely up to snuff, it just it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough to get the job done. They went four

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<v Speaker 1>and eight, they got rid of Beilama and now they

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<v Speaker 1>bring in Chad Morris. H Chad Morris, formerly of SMU,

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<v Speaker 1>formerly of Clemson Fame. He comes in what sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the mantra of Chad Morris as it relates to the

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<v Speaker 1>scheme that he's going to put forward Dan, He's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna spread things out, he's gonna take shots downfield, He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to recruit speed. He is going to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>have misdirection. If you remember, Chad Morris installed and succeeded

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<v Speaker 2>with the Clemson offense that eventually not under his tutelage,

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<v Speaker 2>but eventually won a national championship with the Shaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has the reputation of building offenses that can

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<v Speaker 2>put fireworks onto the field on a national level.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you envision an offense more different from what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw last year from Brett Bilima.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's as different. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>his offense evolved. They threw a lot last year, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was catch as catch can. It was not at

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<v Speaker 2>all consistent and at least it had somewhat of an identity.

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of what they're going to do or

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<v Speaker 2>what we believe they'll do under Chad Morris, it is

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<v Speaker 2>certainly a departure in terms of philogoph Yeah, take time,

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<v Speaker 2>big time.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Hogs, the Hogs are coming in hot here

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<v Speaker 1>they rate played their spring game this past weekend. The read,

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<v Speaker 1>the instant read from that game is that the defense

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<v Speaker 1>played better than the offense, even though technically the offense

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<v Speaker 1>won something like twenty seven to twenty five, whate whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Byzantine scoring system they used down there. The offense won,

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<v Speaker 1>but the defense actually came away playing a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that is a site for sore eyes. Because

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<v Speaker 1>for as much has been made about the Chad Morris

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<v Speaker 1>hiring and his style and how big a departure it

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<v Speaker 1>might be from Brett Bielama, it shouldn't be lost in

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that the new defensive coordinator in Arkansas is John Chavis, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and John Chavis has been around the SEC forever. Might

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<v Speaker 1>not have been quite the profit that folks hoped in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M when he went there after leaving LSU,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you got the worst defense in the conference

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<v Speaker 1>like Arkansas did a year ago, John Chaves works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that works.

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<v Speaker 1>To see that you've got somebody in there on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive side who's had some degree of success coming into town,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think he would have to improve things immeasurably

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<v Speaker 1>and right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that fair? Yeah? I think so. And The most

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<v Speaker 2>success that he has had has been with defensive lines

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<v Speaker 2>filled with NFL talent, So that was you know, LSU

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<v Speaker 2>and Tennessee namely, And even though he had NFL talent

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<v Speaker 2>at Texas A and M, I don't think the depth

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<v Speaker 2>and consistency was necessarily there, but the talent most certainly

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<v Speaker 2>was highlighted by Miles Garrett. The big thing for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and the big thing I think for everybody

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<v Speaker 2>looking at this Arkansas defense is fundamentally can they improve?

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<v Speaker 2>They've been so bad just doing basic things, making incorrect reads,

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping up too many explosion plays yards after contact, basic

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<v Speaker 2>things that an SEC West defense given the available talent.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know Arkansas is never going to recruit on

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<v Speaker 2>LSU or Texts A and M or Alabama's level, but

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<v Speaker 2>they should be able to put together recruiting classes of

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<v Speaker 2>high three star defensive players who end up looking like

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<v Speaker 2>star blue chip types every so often. So if they're

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<v Speaker 2>able to recruit on defense and put and I know

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<v Speaker 2>this is tough sometimes when you have an offensive minded

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, if they can start shifting more and more

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<v Speaker 2>of the talent to defense, you know, maybe not put

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<v Speaker 2>a guy at receiver, maybe he's a safety, maybe he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a tight end, maybe he's an outside linebacker. That's

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<v Speaker 2>when I think you will see John Chavis if he

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<v Speaker 2>is going to have success, that's when it'll come.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair this year. I think you feel

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<v Speaker 1>better about the secondary. You hope that Drake Greenlaw as

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<v Speaker 1>the anchor of the linebacking corps can work out. Curious

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<v Speaker 1>about what the front looks like and their depth up front,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got some pieces to build around offense. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very curious because Cole Kelly is this giant man at

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<v Speaker 1>six seven, like two seventy, just a big freaking dude

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<v Speaker 1>who we saw with a couple starts last year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>probably got the best physical tools of anyone on that

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback depth chart. Tie Story is another name who could

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<v Speaker 1>work his way in. But if you're Chad Morris, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're building something, you've got two quarterbacks, one who certainly

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<v Speaker 1>has the smarts to run the offense, another one who

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<v Speaker 1>just blows away with his physical tools, and just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot back around those guys both along the line, all

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<v Speaker 1>the top receiving targets the running back position, if nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else after Brett Bielma is pretty stocked so there is

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<v Speaker 1>so much reason here I think to be optimistic. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Arkansas is gonna knock somebody off at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they might not be consistent because they play an

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<v Speaker 1>SEC schedule and it's hard to be consistent. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to catch somebody in twenty eighteen. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go on record it's LSU. It's at home, it's November tenth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the game that they get that opens eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good time to be going through changes in

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC West. We've mentioned this before, but new coach

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<v Speaker 2>of Tech's A and M, new full time coach at

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<v Speaker 2>ole Miss, new coach in Mississippi State, LSU's off. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a new offensive, new old offensive coordinator. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>right now a good time to have LSU on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>given the uneven nature of recent LSU. So all things considered,

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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't been that long since the defense of twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>right the back half that shut out Ole Miss and LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>It's doable. It's modern doable to mount a good defense

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Arkansas. So I don't know how much optimism

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<v Speaker 2>I have, but I see the elements. We must move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about one of your draft picks, Dan, who

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<v Speaker 1>do you got your eye on here? Budding potential?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's talk k State. I think Kseate

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the more interesting teams and situations one

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<v Speaker 2>because there is the element of how long is the

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<v Speaker 2>coach going to be there that they treasure and love

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<v Speaker 2>and has done so many excellent things for the university.

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<v Speaker 1>The man is immortal at this point, Dan, Yes, mortal.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was pouring through some things, just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>getting up to date on k State, in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of my mind, I was like, man, they are just

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<v Speaker 2>the most seven and a half and four and a

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<v Speaker 2>half team that exists. Sure enough. Their average record over

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<v Speaker 2>the past five years so since the Colin Klein Fiesta

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl team, their average record I believe is seven point

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<v Speaker 2>four and four point six during the regular season. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's seven and five, nine and three, six and six,

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<v Speaker 2>eight and four, seven and five. And they beat UCLA

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<v Speaker 2>in their bowl game last year without Josh Rosen. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing about k State, new coordinators, same head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>They played like fifteen quarterbacks last year. Jesse Ertz is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you remember, Skyler Thompson had a really, really

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<v Speaker 2>nice game against Oklahoma State through for a bajillion yards

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<v Speaker 2>in a very Unkansas State way, and Alex Dalton was

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<v Speaker 2>really good. And I think Skyler Thompson is the better passer.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Dalton's the better runner. No Byron Pringle this year,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's a bummer. But they still have talent in

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<v Speaker 2>the receiving corp and talent on offense. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>changes on defense, and you know it sort of is

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<v Speaker 2>going to look more of the same because you're still

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a Bill Snyder team, but it's more JC,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more transfer stuff for Kansas State. But I'm intrigued

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<v Speaker 2>with their evolution opening it up more last year, even

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<v Speaker 2>with backup quarterbacks developing receivers as you know, even going

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<v Speaker 2>back to Tyler Lockett recently, and if Kansas State is

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<v Speaker 2>converting those third and twos where the quarterback sort of hesitates,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's calling Client, even if they're not calling Cline, they're

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<v Speaker 2>basically unbeatable in the Big twelve. They really are. That.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that those fourteen and a half minute drives.

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas State is perhaps at this point, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be careful when I say this, but one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best defined teams in college football. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>most ironclad identities in college football, and they feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they have that to definitive ceiling. But that ceiling includes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll beat anybody. They just will. They'll lose to somebody dumb,

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<v Speaker 2>but they'll beat anybody, which is like, I respect that

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<v Speaker 2>in a very real way. So Kansas State different but

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the same. And schedule's pretty good this year,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll preview them later in the fall and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in late summer. But it's sort of nice to have

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas State in your life, is what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I liken the new version of Kansas State to like

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<v Speaker 1>the new version of a golf club. All right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're not a huge golfer, but hear me out.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year the major golf club companies put out a

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<v Speaker 1>new model, and they always champion some new bell or

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<v Speaker 1>whistle that they put on it. It's ultimately the same

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<v Speaker 1>club over the span of ten years. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>a drastically different club, but from year to year it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically the same thing with different packaging, different labeling. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of how I feel about k State. Every year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of the same team. You have a few

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<v Speaker 1>odds and ends here that might be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>different that we need to pay attention to as we

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<v Speaker 1>try to dissect what this team's going to be twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, so on and so forth. By

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a large same team, same philosophy, same team, same coach,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is part of the reason why I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I find them so damn admirable.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish they would I know there's talent in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish they would do better at developing bigger time

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<v Speaker 2>running backs because that feels like they'd be even way

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<v Speaker 2>way better. Because defensively, I don't have a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>questions even though there's new guys there, just because of

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 2>year over year they seem to develop nicely. They need

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<v Speaker 2>to rush the passer, they need to figure out some

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<v Speaker 2>replacements upfront, But no, there is something very comforting about

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Kansas State, and I honestly it was so fun to

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<v Speaker 2>watch them not just win games twenty to nineteen. Last

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<v Speaker 2>year it was forty five forty over Oklahoma State. When

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Skyler Thompson through for it was

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<v Speaker 2>like seventeen yards per It was ridiculous. It was so

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<v Speaker 2>fun to watch. So I appreciate that evolution, even when

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<v Speaker 2>philosophically things are pretty similar. I agree, budding potential, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>butdding potential. Let's go to one of my picks here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about North Carolina. Oh okay, No,

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<v Speaker 2>Budding Potential is.

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<v Speaker 1>Made fun of North Carolina at our last live show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, North Carolina had a three and nine year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we sort of liken them to just

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the like the senior who gives up best case of

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.719
<v Speaker 1>senior ride. It's worst case of senioritis. You know, they

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>get a couple of games in and it's like dog,

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it's over. We're moving on to college.

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Here.

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>It's things done. Three to nine, not.

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 2>A good year, super beat up, super beat up. It

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 2>was senioritis, it was tendon itis, it was larryn Je,

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>it was everything. ITAs Carolina.

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Though, it's one of those teams where I looked into

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>them a little bit more and I still don't feel

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like I really got anywhere. Okay, I think the outlook

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>has to be better than it was a year ago,

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>because you're right, the injury department was not kind to

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>them at all. Warry Fedora as a coach, you might

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>question what he can do defensively, but in terms of offense,

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>he's generally got a pretty good track record. That was

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>part of the reason why they hired him. Sure, he's

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 1>a guy who knows how to develop offensive talent. I

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>feel really good about Anthony Ratliff Williams. I think he's

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a stud in the makings. I really like Nathan Elliott

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>throwing to Anthony Ratliff Williams towards the latter part of

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>last season. What I didn't like is that it took

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>him like seven games to get to Nathan Elliott correct

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>something crazy like that. And from everything that I could

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>see in the early part of the spring here, the

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>book is not closed on Nathan Elliott being the starter.

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>There's still a chance that they could go to Chaz Surat.

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I remember Chazz.

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>For as much as I'd love to have a Chaz

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that we can talk about week in a week out,

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I think for the immediate future that Nathan Elliot is

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 1>probably the guy they should go to.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina very much felt last year like a team

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>if you were looking at somebody else in the ACC

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 2>their resume, and they beat North Carolina and You just

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 2>hope that whoever was listening didn't fully listen or know

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 2>the context of what beating North Carolina in twenty seventeen meant.

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It was like getting a ninety three on a test

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>that was out of one hundred and fifty. That's what

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 2>beating North Carolina was. That seems fair to me.

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the injuries, and as our friend Bill Connolly

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>has said time and time again, having injuries is bad. However,

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>when you have the injuries, it gives you a chance

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>to build some depth because you play a lot of

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the younger guys. This could be the year where North

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Carolina sees some fruit from that. A lot of their

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>younger guys did get experienced because everyone was so banged up.

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 1>So you know, along the lines at the skill positions,

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the offense has weapons. Larry Foedora knows how to use

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>those weapons. We'll see if they're able to elevate that

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>side of things in twenty eighteen. And oh, by the way,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get too far out over my skis here,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>but a very workable schedule, sure, very workable schedule. Listen

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to this schedule. I'll read through it very quickly. At

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>cal at ECU UCF could be a tough game, sure,

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely Pitt at home, Miami on the road, Virginia Tech

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>at home Syracuse and Virginia on the road back to

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>back weeks. Then you've got Georgia Tech at Duke Western

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Carolina n C State.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Here's my final question about North Carolina. Do you think

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>there's an element that North Carolina peaked a couple of

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>years ago? Absolutely in the Larry Fedora So I guess

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 2>what was it twenty fifteen in where they went to

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 2>the ACC Championship game. There is there an element where

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 2>obviously they had a ton of success with Seth Latrell

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 2>as offensive coordinator and he's moved on quite successfully to

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>North Texas. They had the gusmels On at defensive coordinator

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 2>experiment that looked promising in year one and then sort

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>of fell apart. That there is just an element of

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Larry Fedora looking elsewhere, perhaps a little bit too much

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>to maintain that level that perhaps I wouldn't say he's

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>checked out, that would be totally unfair, but it might

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>seem that his heart isn't fully with North Carolina and

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 2>that's reflective.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the thought crossed my mind in watching three and

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>nine North Carolina last year that Larry Fedora missed his

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>chance to truly cash out while his stock was high, Right,

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>was he truly in on the rebuilding effort?

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>They won what like ten straight in twenty fifteen before

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>the AEC had a good year. Yeah, I remember talking

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>like can Carolina beat Clemson? They were a wonky on

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>side kick away. Yeah. I think to compare him to

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Sonny Dyke's and Kal isn't fully fair because he's had

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>much more success. But Sunny Dikes was always that same

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>guy who had eyes elsewhere, and ultimately things just went

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>super downhill after that eight win year and they just

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>had enough of each other. I hope that it doesn't

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 2>come to that. I hope that North Carolina is on

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the bounce back because it's an attractive school that can

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>attract high level talent that succeed in a big way

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>in the ACC. So I'm hoping that's not the case

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>that there was a window. So we'll see.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>They have talent coming back, They have some experience from

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.959
<v Speaker 1>a year ago because of the injuries coming back, if

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they can stay healthy, if they can build on some

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>of that experience from a year ago, I think it

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>puts them in a position where you know, maybe we're

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about them in a much, much different light. That's

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>not to overlook that their offensive line isn't a bit

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of flux. And defensively, they too have been terrible thirty

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>one points a game last year, awful against the run.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>They do have deficiency that they need to get resolved.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>But I think by and large I feel better than

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>three and nine.

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they should be a bowl team every year. Absolutely,

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's make a surprisingly easy transition to Cal Okay so

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Cal in their I guess last five years, that's four

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>years of Sunny Dyke's and one year of Justin Wilcox

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>one in eleven eight and five five seven five seven

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>five seven, which is about right. I think we were

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty high on Cal early on beating North Carolina and

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss early on in September, and then everything sort

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of came back down to earth pretty quickly. And then

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>they slaughtered Wazoo. I think was that an Adam a

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>mean game? I believe it was. They beat Adam, they

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>beat at them. They beat Washington State, generating like seven turnovers.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Ross Bauers starting quarterback flips into the goal line for

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>a touchdown. Flips over the goal line, and cal is

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>a team where they have recruiting advantages of being in

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>California and northern California. There's a lot of talent that

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 2>academically they can attract high achievers that are also football players.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>They have redone their facilities recently. I know the couple

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>years ago they attracted the number one receiver in the

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>country Demetrius Robertson, who's very good as a freshman, but

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>got hurt early on last year. So that's a promising

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 2>name coming back this year for his I think junior

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>year unless he was given a medical redshirt last year.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>They have a potentially promising transfer in Brandon mckaway who

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>comes over from South Carolina, former blue chip quarterback, duel

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>threat guy who I think was also really good baseball player.

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>So in terms of positive things, offense potential with Demetris

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Robertson and possible quarterback change who knows defense, a lot

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>of work. They kept mostly for the most part, kept

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>a really solid staff in place Bo Baldwin was flirting

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 2>with the Oregon State job. He didn't get it, so

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>he's back and he'll be calling plays, and I think

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that's a big positive that they're able to retain Baldwin.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 2>The Pac twelve North is tough. It's not a super

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>easy conference to get better in. But with more quarterback experience,

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 2>better offensive skill talent, I think they should be competing

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>for a bowl year and a year out, if not.

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Beyond that, I like the defensive coaching staff. They are

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>actually pretty strong in the back end on defense. They

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of work in terms of new guys upfront,

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>but when they generated turnovers, which is like every team

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>in the country, they succeeded. They showed their potential against

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Wazoo last year and Ole Miss North Carolina whatever. I

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>am hopeful that KL is able to take advantage of

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>things that they have that other Pack twelve teams don't

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>necessarily have. Have you been to Berkeley, tie.

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I've never been to Berkeley.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>I love Berkeley, but I could understand why a seventeen

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>year old wouldn't. I could definitely understand it. So I

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 2>am I am buying on cal as A because I

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 2>really do like Justin Wilcox. I'm buying cal as A

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>starting this year and beyond making bowl games.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I you know what, I like cal last year? Why

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.959
<v Speaker 1>for all their deficiencies, and of course they weren't all

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that consistent, but they were damn plucky, weren't they.

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they finished the season what they almost beat Stanford

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and UCLA, And I like seeing that a team that

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>is down and beat up and losing key players and

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting blown out by a couple teams. I

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like that they showed fight deep into November. I think

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>that's a good sign for the Bears moving forward. Oh.

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you can say that about Cal. I should have

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>said that about UNC. They were in the same time.

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>They only won three games, but you could tell that

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>they were in every game. They were trying and they

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>were playing pretty damn hard, despite the fact that maybe

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the record didn't reflect it.

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>To go back to my comparison, I think Cal is

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 2>a really good looking exchange students, okay, who doesn't fully

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>understand the concept of American dances and doesn't really speak

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the language. But the potential tensions there, Okay, it's a

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 2>very weird, uh competiveon with you, I tye, I know

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 2>it's weird, and I'm just sometimes you just have to

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>to double.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Down, tie all right, double down, Dan, I like it. Yeah,

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>let me stay in the pac twelve stay best. Utah

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>went seven and six a year ago.

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.439
<v Speaker 2>The Pac twelve's Kansas State.

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>That's right, seven and six a year ago. They won

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the Heart of Dallas Bowl, I believe over West Virginia.

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>If memory serves, I think they were the only Pack

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>twelve team to win a bowl game. So I let's

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>celebrate that wind.

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>We have this difficulty every year with teams like Utah,

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>with teams like k State, you want to throw them

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>in the mix as well, teams that maybe lack the

0:34:56.440 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>sex appeal but don't ever seem to lack the consis

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>And see every year they find a way to achieve

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the fundamentals and when they're out there playing the games,

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that goes an awful long way, doesn't it.

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>And so what I like about this team first and

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>foremost is the coach Kyle Whittingham. Kyle Whittingham knows how

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>to coach those fundamentals. He knows how to get a

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>team ready, and he knows how to be consistent, particularly

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side of the ball.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>With Utah over the.

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Years, it's really been upfront along that defensive line. This year,

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it could be a little bit different for

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 1>him because he's only got one guy back along the

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>defensive line, and much of his experience will be in

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the defensive backfield and as you look at like the backgate. Now,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>with that being said, does anyone doubt that by the

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>end of the year, Kyle Whittingham will find a way

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to put together a top twenty five defensive line in

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>college football? I don't know. Which is what he does, right,

0:35:58.880 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 1>that's his thing, it's his mm.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>So defensively, Utah is gonna be fine, and that goes

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 1>a long way in a conference that by and large

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>is still dictated by offense. Sure, you pair some of

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>those pyrotechnical offenses up against a quality, fundamentally sound defense,

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 1>and that has That's where Kyle Whittingham's made us say, so,

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be just fine on the defensive side of

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball. What I like about them in addition to

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>that is the fact that Tyler Huntley, their quarterback, who

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>had a breakout year last year, he comes back. I

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like that they seem to have enough talent around him.

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Not guys that maybe have the sex appeal they might

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>find elsewhere, but certainly plenty of depth on offense that

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>can work around Tyler Huntley and outside of really just

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>losing their top two weapons out wide, which is no

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>laughing matter you lose a guy like Darren Carington who

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>had a great year. I think Utah can be a

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>team that is more than just consistent on defense and

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>fledgling on offense. I feel good about their prospects that

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>take a leap forward on offense.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Other than Darren Carrington, Utah offensively has been a

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>who's who of huge depth of guys who can't get

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 2>open downfield that's right, like real solid at like six

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 2>yards and turn around and boom the balls right there.

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 2>But as soon as you actually need to stretch the field,

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Utah has struggled finding those guys recently. But I have

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>developed running backs nicely. You mentioned the lines all true.

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 2>We've been able to count on a Utah November swoon

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty consistently. Like they really start impressing us September into October,

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe knock off USC or something like that, and then

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 2>just get murdered by Arizona, right or just get beat

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 2>up by Oregon State and you're like, where what happened

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to the other Utah? What we were? So you know

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>who Utah is at the dance tie double down. Dan

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Utah's let's say a little larger. I think that's fair

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:06.240
<v Speaker 2>to say, charmingly large, possibly Australian, very charming, affable, big personality,

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 2>convinces a crush to dance. You get close to them, ooh,

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>should have put onto Okay, who should have checked the breath?

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Just those those little final touches just aren't there for Utah.

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>And it seems to be the case year in and year out.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 2>But again, they were the only team to win a

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Bowl game.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>So so, good bones is what you're saying. Good bones,

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>but a little rough around the edges, yes, absolutely, Maybe

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>no defining feature, Yeah, everybody knows and loves the what

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>of soft features? The affable big guy? Yeah, great to

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>have around. All right, all right, so Utah, All right.

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>That's Utah. We'll go to another team with an affable

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 2>big guy. Affable big guy, appable big guy. Let's go

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 2>to South Carolina. Ooh and I I'm going to take

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 2>back the word affable and I'm gonna I'm going to

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>fill it in with needlessly aggressive.

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, that would be Will musch champ Nce. Needlessly aggressive

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>feels accurate to me.

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just shout out to the whiteboards out there

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>for their sacrifice. Six and six, eight and four in

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 2>his two seasons in Colombia, And I guess it's relevant

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>that Steve Spurrier in three of his four final full seasons,

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 2>so not the season that he left early where I

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 2>think his son took over. He won ten games. So

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>it's a very different sec East than the end dish

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of the Steve Spurrier era. But winning at South Carolina

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>is doable, is one hundred percent doable, even with a

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>national championship contender in state as a rival. Now South

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Carolina and the story of their spring has sort of

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>been the tanner leization of the offensive tempo that they're

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>running with Brian McClendon, which is listen, we hope it

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>works out, tigeh. I see story after story after story.

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 2>They're playing with tempo, this new look offense. You know,

0:39:58.200 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 2>they get rid of Kurt Roper at the end of

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the season last year. You know, George's Brian McClendon comes in.

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>He's a I think receivers coach has been promoted to

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator, Jake Bentley coming into his own. They get

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Deebo Samuel back. It's all happening in Columbia.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so you'll remember that Steve Spurrier in South Carolina

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>parted ways Very early on in the cycle, we talked

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>about the coaching carousel. South Carolina seemed like they were

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the first one to be out there advertising the fact

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that they were going to have an opening, and for

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>a while it seemed as if they might get Tom Herman.

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>That was the rumor initially, Tom Herman. Wow, what a

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>get for the SEC East. That did not materialize, and actually,

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>as this thing played out, they were one of the

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>last teams to get a football coach. It almost felt

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like a bit of a letdown.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were rich Rod rumors I believe in there

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, and so eventually when they brought in Will Muschamp,

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh God, a retread. A retread does

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>not seem like what South Carolina wanted when they announced

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>this move very early. But I'm pretty optimistic it was

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>not pyrotechnic. But there are the bones there again, affable,

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>big guy, overly aggressive, big guy. What have you that

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I think with the SEC East, you know, getting better

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>as a whole and more mysterious and new. Yeah, and

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>more mysterious. Sure, there are plenty of reasons to feel

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>like South Carolina's headed in a good direction to keep

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:30.720
<v Speaker 1>up with the Jones.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina felt like a very dependable neighborhood restaurant last

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 2>year where they knew that the limitations were clear. And

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 2>you don't watch a South Carolina game thinking that they're

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 2>going to beat up on Georgia or they're going to

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>beat up on somebody. Great, but Chick Bentley was solid,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe through little too many picks. Defense was nice. They

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 2>lose a few key pieces, but we turned a couple

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 2>of big ones up front and when they lost, they

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>definitely should have lost, and when they won, they should

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 2>have won. And we knew we were getting.

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 1>So what we're describing here is the old Applebe's commercial coach.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Can you can you follow me over here for a second.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I wouldn't wish that on South.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Can Will mush Champ? Will mush Champ hangs up the picture?

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? I want to say, an actual,

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 2>dependably good and consistent neighborhood restaurant money and good in

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood dan that has specific limitations and maybe listen,

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe this new offense is like a dope happy hour

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>that they're starting. I don't know, but I just wing.

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I am hoping for good things for with the returning

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 2>quarterback in the SEC because and listen, Will Musshamp. Let's

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>if we zoom out a little bit, Florida fans are

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>generally going to be, you know, upset about everything. They

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 2>went to national championships ten twelve years ago, and that

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the expectations are through the roof, and to a certain extent,

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>rightfully so, Will mus Champ was in demand. Will must

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Champ has succeeded with defense and recruiting everywhere he's been

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, or I think everywhere he's recruited

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.839
<v Speaker 2>super well. South Carolina signed a top twenty class, I

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 2>believe this past cycle. So there are multiple reasons to

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 2>believe in South Carolina as a team whose trajectory is encouraging,

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:26.280
<v Speaker 2>with a returning quarterback with a new system on offense,

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 2>with which, by the way, the faster you play, the

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>more depth you need to have on defense for when

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 2>things go wrong. So I don't have their depth chart

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 2>in front of me, but that's something to consider. But

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>all things, you know, being equal, I am hopeful and

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 2>encouraged by South Carolina and Debo's back. Debo's so good.

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Devo's back.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>The final point I'll bring up about Will mush Champ,

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to move on to Northwestern. It

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.479
<v Speaker 1>does seem like, well Muschamp learned from his previous stop.

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Ty, if I can draft that right now,

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Will mush Champ has learned from his past mistakes, I

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>would just throwing it out. Oh my god, Ty, put

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>me down. I'm on the clock. That's what I'm taking,

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 2>all right, Sorry about Northwestern? Okay, I was just there.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Northwestern was ten and three last year they won the

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Music City Bowl over Kentucky. I have no idea how

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>they went ten and three. I never have any idea

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>how they go ten and three or nine and three

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>or eight and five. Northwestern to me is and forever

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>will be a blind spot. Maybe when we get out

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to Chicago and do the live show, we can talk

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>about this in a little bit more detail.

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable new practice facility right on the lake.

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>This is a team to me that I never get.

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>If I'm always in on Texas, I always feel like

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm out on Northwestern.

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And as I go through and look at what the

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>future holds for this team. I gotta be honest, I

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>feel the same. Clayton Thorson blew out his ACL at

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the end of last year. He's still rehabing it. Not

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>going to see much of him this spring.

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Jackson's gone, Nate Hall also hurt and recuperating the spring.

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>The schedule looks impossibly difficult to me. It looks seven

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and five at best. So I'm not sure why I

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 1>feel optimistic at all about Northwestern, other than to say

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that I'm usually wrong about them. They weren't ten and

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>three a year ago, and I didn't think it was possible.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I look at the schedule now, I look at some

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of the uncertainty. I say, seven and five, Dan, they

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.720
<v Speaker 1>will do better than seven and five. Agree, Yes, oh.

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. I'm a big believer in Dan Persa tie.

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Isn't he from where you are? Fromthlehem? Catholic? Yeah? Yeah, okay.

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.479
<v Speaker 2>So if you if Dan Persa showed up this year

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and just played quarterback for Northwestern, yeah, and we tuned in,

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 2>would you have any sort of inkling like is that

0:45:55.560 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 2>that can't be right? Would no idea? You would have

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>no clue. Northwestern does things and succeeds because they they're

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>not conservative. Even though their offense has been sort of

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 2>disappointing recently, it's been defense for Northwestern recently, and it

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 2>feels very much like Northwestern is in a sea of

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 2>volatility in the Big Ten West. I mean, with Nebraska struggling,

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 2>with Iowa up and down, Wisconsin obviously has been super consistent,

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 2>and Illinois has been down for a while. That Northwestern

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 2>isn't necessarily succeeding because they are a very very good

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:40.240
<v Speaker 2>team just bludgeoning lesser teams. They're just a consistent team.

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 2>They're like there's somebody that is existing during a depression

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 2>that decided, you know what, I don't trust the banks.

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to keep all my money myself and

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll see what happens. They're not making any money, but

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 2>they're just getting by. They're just living their best life.

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I feel like Northwest. They're developing, especially

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>upfront on defense and the developing NFL level talent. They're

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 2>keeping themselves in games. They don't make a ton of mistakes.

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 2>And in the Big Ten West in twenty fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>goes a long way, doesn't it.

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, big time, pretty good.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Defense, not a ton of mistakes on offense year over year.

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 2>The quarterbacks are always like a B plus that's great

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Northwestern home run hitter. And Justin Jackson he's gone this

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 2>year though I know he's gone, but like it. It

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 2>feels like they don't have to count on any one

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>thing in the way that schools that have high ceilings

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>sometimes do. The one thing is that they have the

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>consistency of a coach, and they have the consistency of

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 2>playing in a division that they can come in second

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 2>in every year.

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>The ultimate in team football.

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I really like Evanston. I was just

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 2>there because I was in Chicago and we were kicked

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 2>out of my in law's house because they were preparing

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 2>for a big dinner. And it was nice. Evans is

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a nice college town right there on the lake. I'm

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 2>sure it's just balls awful during the winter, but it

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 2>was super nice in spring. I liked it all right.

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Stay in the Big ten West, talk to me about Minnesota.

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's set called HEJ fleck Row the boat.

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I am. I'm feeling pretty good. After seeing his

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.799
<v Speaker 2>first full recruiting class, and knowing what they might be

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 2>able to do on offense, which is something they haven't

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 2>been able to do in a long time. Do you

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 2>know the last time Minnesota finished the season in the

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 2>top twenty?

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Probably gotta go back seven eight years, two thousand and three,

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>whoa Lawrence morony?

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota is the last time they finished in the top twenty.

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:49.439
<v Speaker 2>And you know, the Jerry Kill era had certain ups

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and certain downs, certainly Minnesota six and six, eight and four,

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 2>eight and four, five and seven, eight and four, five

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and seven, and that all feels like I could have

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 2>made that up up right there? Would you have known? Nope?

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 2>No known? So no and apologies Nebraska fans. No decent

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 2>wins in twenty seventeen, first year of the PJ. Fleck era.

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>But obviously that transition happened was in March February, March.

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 2>It was not a natural transition from Minnesota. I guess

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 2>he finished out the class, so I guess it was

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe January. I don't know, but Minnesota had a expectedly

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>disappointing first year of the PJ. Fleck era. But here's

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 2>the good news. Demory Croft gone transferred to I think

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee State. The starting quarterback. They have a promising juco

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's there, girod Evans. Maybe it's the Newish coach

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.760
<v Speaker 2>bringing a JC quarterback to run a certain style better

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>than the incumbent guy. His name is vic vi Via Montes.

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a phenomenal name, so I'm already rooting

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 2>for him. Good size, dual threat makes sense. The big

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>thing is PJ. Fleck recruited super well offensively, They have weapons.

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.800
<v Speaker 2>There's an incoming freshm and we talked to Bud Elliott

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:02.720
<v Speaker 2>about Minnesota's incoming class. I believe it's was Rashad Bateman,

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 2>four star receiver from Georgia who and I know there's

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 2>returning talent offensively, skill position wise, but he could come

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 2>in and offer something that they haven't necessarily had in

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.439
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and that's high level offensive skill talent

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that could be consistent over the next three or four years. So, yes,

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota had a struggle is year. Last year the offensive

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:30.799
<v Speaker 2>line was just totally decimated by injuries. I am I

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>feel good about PJ. Fleck as he gets more and

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 2>more of his own recruits to Minneapolis because he is

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody who is going to succeed. And they kept all

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>their coaches from last year. He is somebody who will

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 2>succeed because he gets this team ready, both physically and emotionally.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.720
<v Speaker 2>If Minnesota is to win eight or nine games every

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 2>so often or more often than not, it will be

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 2>because this is a team that plays hard and forces

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 2>turnovers and does things, and they do things that inspired

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 2>teams do really well. So I feel good about Minnesota

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 2>improving as it becomes more and more flecky flecky, as

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 2>it becomes as that roster becomes more and more flecky,

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>because I think he's going to be able to recruit

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 2>on a top forty level. Flecky flecky baby wow. So

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I you know, the Big ten West not too bad.

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 2>It's improving, it's improving. Wisconsin obviously the titan of the

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 2>West for right now. Nebraska brings in Scott Frost. With

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Scott Frost comes a ton of talent on the coaching

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 2>side of things, for sure, and a ton of promise

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:42.760
<v Speaker 2>being so he's an alum of Nebraska. You've obviously got

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Purdue in that situation, which has improved very quickly. Yep.

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Now we're talking about Minnesota. We talked about old Trusty Northwestern.

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 2>And Minnesota can help to provide that depth, provided they've

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 2>got to recruit better up front. On defense, they were

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 2>so good for so long when Jerry Kill was the

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>head coach. I think their defensive coordinators now at Washington State.

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>He replaced Alex Grinch who goes to Ohio State. But

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>they were so good at developing large, three star defensive

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 2>men and that sort of fell off these past couple

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 2>of years. So if they're able to get back to

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 2>that point, I feel good about Minnesota as a once

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>again perennial Bowl team. That is good enough. God, I

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:32.840
<v Speaker 2>just remember Mitch Leidner's existence. That is good enough to

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 2>get to and win bowl games and make this And

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 2>you're right, I think the Big Ten West, for as

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 2>much as we've made fun of it recently, with a

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 2>just the most consistent team outside of I guess like

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Alabama and Clemson at this point in Wisconsin, not the best,

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 2>but the most consistent Ohio State. But the consistency of Wisconsin,

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the upside of Nebraska, the intrigue of Purdue, and I

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 2>think there can be energy with Minnesota. And I say

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 2>this sincerely, Tie, I want to get to Minneapolis. Everybody

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 2>that I mentioned the word Minneapolis too, says, you know what,

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis pretty fun? I need. I've been to a lot

0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:16.760
<v Speaker 2>of places around this country. Tie, have you been to Minneapolis.

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I've heard great things.

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I got to get there sometime between. Yeah, exactly. So

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about twenty eighteen, but I can see,

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 2>like through the haze, I can see a fun Minnesota.

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.359
<v Speaker 2>And they also got that Remember the giant. I think

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 2>he's Australian, but he went to the IMG Academy in

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Florida and Andy Stables or a feature about him, Daniel Folele.

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, so he's at Minnesota. He's a project.

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 2>He's only been playing football for like three and a

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.359
<v Speaker 2>half weeks. But if he is anything, he's like six

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:48.360
<v Speaker 2>or eight four hundred pounds. If he can get his

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 2>weight down a little bit, I don't know. That could

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 2>be they could have a ridiculous freak on their hands.

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Who knows. So all right, I'm exa stay.

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.919
<v Speaker 1>Let me stay in the Midwest here and talk about

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 1>my final team. This was a crowd favorite last year.

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not so much a team that we didn't talk

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:09.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot about. It's a team that we haven't talked

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>much about in the long story ten year history of

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the Saliver Ball. Last year was really one of the

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:20.359
<v Speaker 1>only years that we talked about Iowa State, maybe the

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 1>only notable exception being when we had Paul Rhodes when

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he was coach on the program interviewed him one of

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.240
<v Speaker 1>her favorite interviews that we've done with the coach. Iowa

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>State won eight and five last year. They won the

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Liberty Bawl over Memphis in a good game twenty one

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty I want to say, more of a defensive game

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>than perhaps we expected. They were the surprise sort of

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 1>breakout team of all last year. Matt Campbell, there head

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>football coach, was in his second year, obviously paying very

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:55.359
<v Speaker 1>quick short term dividends for the Cyclones since they brought

0:54:55.400 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>him over. What I like about Iowa State moving forward

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>is that Kyle Kemp got an extra year of eligibility. Sure,

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old Kyle kempt is, but anytime

0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you win an extra year of eligibility, that usually means

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.879
<v Speaker 1>you're older than your peers. Kyle Kemp had a good

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 1>season last year, took over at quarterback for Jacob Park

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and was it was just someone who came in and

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.760
<v Speaker 1>was consistent didn't shoot himself in the foot, was able

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to get the ball to our boy, Duke of his

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Ard Alanlizard. They lose him though, right, they lose the

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Duke Alan Bizard. They still have David Montgomery though year. Yeah,

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery was pretty good. We're down a little bit

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:40.479
<v Speaker 1>down the stretch, but still pretty good. They have some

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>returning players along the offensive line, which I think is

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>going to give them some stability. And I think the

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 1>second half of their schedule is very gettable. Gettable for

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Iowa State.

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Hit me with the second half of their schedule, Texas.

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Tech at home, on the road at Kansas, Baylor at

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:03.840
<v Speaker 1>home at Texas, which is a tough game, sure, but

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>who knows what you're gonna get out of Texas anymore?

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:13.320
<v Speaker 1>And then back home against k State getible gettable.

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. I mean, we're talking about a team that

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 2>beat Oklahoma and Baker Mayfield last year.

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:20.400
<v Speaker 1>That's right. The first half of the schedule scares me

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. I think maybe there's a feeling

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>out process till this team tries to adapt to losing

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 1>guys like Duke of Fizzard, Alam Wizart. You go on

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:33.359
<v Speaker 1>the road at Iowa, I always got a pretty good

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in Nate Stanley. Early season. Who knows what you're

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:39.959
<v Speaker 1>going to get there early September, even though you're home

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>against Oklahoma the following week, you're still playing Oklahoma. It's

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a tough game. Sure, you also got to go on

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the road to TCU on the road to Oklahoma. State

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 1>also got a game against West Virginia with Will Greer

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>coming back. So I think that's demonstrably tougher than the

0:56:57.000 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>back part of that schedule. But it's getable. Yeah, it's gettable.

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Second half of that schedule is gettable. I'm concerned that

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 1>they lose Alan Wizard. It feels like the meat of

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that wide receiving corps is gone. New guys are gonna

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>have to step up. They probably will, just don't know

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>who yet. And they need to get some sort of

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 1>answer at linebacker because the Big Twelve is by and

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>large and offensive conference, and they're gonna lose Joel Lanning.

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna lose other pieces around Joel Lanning. I'm curious

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.439
<v Speaker 1>to see how that position group shakes out. And even

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 1>though I mentioned earlier that they've got some guys coming

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.439
<v Speaker 1>back along the offensive line, they lose their two best

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>guys in Jake Campos and Robbie Garcia, So it's just

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of unknowns for me to start the season.

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>For Iowa State. I feel much better about the second

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 1>half of that schedule. They'll probably be fine the full

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>year through because they've got Kyle camp running the offense

0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna go a long way. But still feeling

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 1>out to mystic about Iowa State. Maybe not as optimistic

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>as I was towards the latter half of the year

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:09.120
<v Speaker 1>last year when we're talking about realistically a team that

0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>could somehow win the Big Twelve, which is weird for

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 1>all of us, but Iowa State definitely played the part.

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>If you told me that I was State went eight

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and four again, I would say that's a rating success

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and still a big step forward for Matt Campbell.

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Iowa State finished. I don't have I actually

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 2>don't even know if I have access to the d

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>analytics that may be associated with my own old work

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:35.360
<v Speaker 2>account that golduck. But I remember deep into the season

0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Iowa State was leading the Big Twelve in points allowed

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 2>or like points per drive.

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>It was a defensive showing. Yeah, very much led by

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>their defense last year.

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And one of my favorite things as somebody who watched

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Iowa State last year, but not closely

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 2>because other games were happening at the same time. But

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite things, and people have written about

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 2>it these past couple weeks is Iowa State basically at

0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 2>some point early on in this season, against obviously Big

0:58:59.840 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 2>two twelve competition, they just said screw it, running like

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a base dime, but not just a base dime, like

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 2>a three two six, and they played I want to say,

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 2>because what's his name, Jacob Park was suspended for the

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Texas game or no, he wasn't suspended. He played in

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 2>that game, but he wasn't particularly good. It was after

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 2>that game I think he got suspended and they completely

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 2>shut down what turned out to be an only okay

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 2>or pretty good Texas offense, but they did it running

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:29.479
<v Speaker 2>this crazy dime package where they were just sending six

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:34.040
<v Speaker 2>DB's everywhere. And apparently after that happened, Todd Orlando, defense

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:36.919
<v Speaker 2>coordinator of Texas, like went back and watched the tape

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 2>and was like, what the hell was that? And then

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Texas and like other Big twelve teams started running this

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 2>crazy three to two six that got more speed on

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the field. And if you had defensive tackles like Texas did,

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 2>like Puna Ford, who could hold up and hold the

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 2>line a little bit. You have all this speed running around,

0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 2>you have to have specific talent to it. But that

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>was Iowa State. That was Iowa State's defense. I think

0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the defensive cour is Joe Haycock whatever however you pronounced

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that last name. Iowa State was super fun and creative

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's why they turned so many teams over so

1:00:09.400 --> 1:00:13.720
<v Speaker 2>many times. And to you what you just finished your

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 2>analysis with, if they even make a bowl game this year, yeah,

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>for the second consecutive year. If they make a bowl game.

1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:27.960
<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite restaurant in the greater Allentown, Bethlehem whatever area?

1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Probably either White Orchids, a Thai restaurant, or.

1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:35.560
<v Speaker 2>You get some of that tom Kas soup.

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Mexican place called Cactus Blue.

1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>That's your number one. I've been there.

1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Would you be willing to wager a you know, a

1:00:44.560 --> 1:00:47.320
<v Speaker 2>full meal, not just an entree but appetizer, entrede is

1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:49.880
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, a side dish for the table? Would you

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:53.920
<v Speaker 2>wager that on Matt Campbell returning to Ames if they

1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:55.240
<v Speaker 2>go to another bowl game this year?

1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.800
<v Speaker 1>No? God, Yeah, what sucks.

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't bet anything on that. Yeah. I don't know

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:06.280
<v Speaker 2>where he's he'd end up obviously, you know he is

1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:08.640
<v Speaker 2>in the Midwest and there are a number of huge

1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 2>programs there. But man, what a story. Matt Campbell is

1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:18.320
<v Speaker 2>a he's a processed guy too. He must love the Sixers. Yeah,

1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>he just loves the process and he has done a

1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:23.080
<v Speaker 2>remarkable job.

1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I would not bet anything on that, Dan, Okay, just

1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:28.760
<v Speaker 1>making sure I would not bet anything on that.

1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's finish up with I mean, you mentioned a

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:34.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of Kyle Kempton his breakthrough year. I'm gonna mention

1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the Wolford Wagon, who is not back unfortunately by Wake Forest.

1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Wake Forest in the ACC in twenty seventeen. This is

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:46.400
<v Speaker 2>what they did. They go what seven and five and

1:01:46.400 --> 1:01:47.760
<v Speaker 2>then they win the Bowl game over text A and

1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:51.320
<v Speaker 2>M and the crazy shootout. So Dave Clawson's four years

1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:54.240
<v Speaker 2>in Wake three and nine, three and nine, six and six,

1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:57.040
<v Speaker 2>seven and five. So the line on the graph, the

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<v Speaker 2>line of best fit, whatever the line graph we're looking at,

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<v Speaker 2>going the preferred direction. Last year, they beat Louisville, they

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<v Speaker 2>beat NC State, they beat A and M. They're passed

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<v Speaker 2>away from beating Florida State, they mount a somewhat impressive

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<v Speaker 2>comeback against Notre Dame. I know that game was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of over, but they still scored points against a good

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame defense couldn't really run, but the Wolford wagon

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<v Speaker 2>was to this day, I feel like we do not

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Wolford wagon enough John Wolford and his

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<v Speaker 2>evolution for Wake last year, and I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>good Kendall Hinton is going to be. I think his

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<v Speaker 2>spring game was a little disappointing, but they have the receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>The defense was okay to sub okay, but the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>is in an interesting place right now that I am

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<v Speaker 2>confident that Wake, if nothing else, can be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit northwestern e or they don't screw up too much.

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<v Speaker 2>They have an efficient quarterback of Kendall Hinton works out

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<v Speaker 2>that they can just survive games and weather A's schedule

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<v Speaker 2>to the point. And I don't have their schedule in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me this year, but I am confident that

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<v Speaker 2>Wake is a perennial Bowl team under Dave Clawson for

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<v Speaker 2>as long as he's there. Interesting because I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>well coached. I think he's going to keep people in

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<v Speaker 2>Winston Salem. The quarterback development has been there, and you

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to recruit to Wake. Not on a

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<v Speaker 2>high level, but you should be able to give in

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<v Speaker 2>the location. This is not a desert of talent in

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<v Speaker 2>North just both of the Carolinas. There should be enough

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<v Speaker 2>at WAKE. And I know Florida State's obviously going to

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<v Speaker 2>improve from where they were last year, but there are

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<v Speaker 2>enough teams with sizeable enough questions that if Dave Clawson

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<v Speaker 2>is able to get even above average quarterback play from

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<v Speaker 2>whoever's under center, that they should be pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wolford Wagon was a site to behold a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's exciting to see a program like WAKE that

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<v Speaker 1>has had trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Punching bag total punching bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the last decade. It's exciting to see them go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and can pete. And when I say compete,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it truly go out there and compete.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically, the Notre Dame game wasn't great, but they

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<v Speaker 2>even they still acquitted themselves nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>They quitted themselves nicely. So there you go. Are ten

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<v Speaker 1>teams here that we discussed today.

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<v Speaker 2>And nobody leaked their plays tie and nobody leaked their

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<v Speaker 2>plays as far as we know. Amazing How that helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas, North Carolina, Utah, Northwestern and Iowa State for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and k State, cal Minnesota, South Carolina and Wake Forest

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Yes, ten teams budding potential.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a big believer. Tie to bring this bow

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<v Speaker 2>back around. That's little little grease in their hair. Button

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<v Speaker 2>up the shirts, put on some new shoes and just

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<v Speaker 2>say screw it. I'm gonna talk to my crush across

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<v Speaker 2>the dance floor. Good things will.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen, good things, good Juju right here? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you one final question? And I promise

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<v Speaker 2>we won't spend a lot of time on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Please.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the off season. We can do whatever we want.

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<v Speaker 1>Got What do you got for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have Amazon Prime Video? Yes? Have you watched

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<v Speaker 2>any of Michigan?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm talking about? I do? Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so Michigan If you don't know what I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan is the subject of all or Nothing, which is

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Hard Knocks crew. If you watch Hard

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<v Speaker 2>Knocks and HBO with an NFL team, Last year it

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<v Speaker 2>was with the Rams. They follow them the entire season.

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<v Speaker 2>This year it's Michigan football. When I say this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the twenty seventeen season is airing now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>on Amazon Prime Video. It's like a behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>is any good? It's really good Jody with and I

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't love reliving some of the moments from last year.

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<v Speaker 2>There is so I'm We're three episodes in. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of harbor understandably, right, there is something super illuminating

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<v Speaker 2>that I just don't think I considered. Jim Harbaugh is

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<v Speaker 2>definitely more human than he portrays himself, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>something that is very awkward. And it's not his faults

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<v Speaker 2>about him trying to get to know and be a

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<v Speaker 2>human around his players, okay, because he has eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>players plus however many walk ons, and he goes to

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<v Speaker 2>the when Tarik Black hurts his foot, he goes to

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital and he's just he's an awkward because you

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<v Speaker 2>just can't know everybody, right, but you have this responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's just like this very awkward dad around. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he goes into like a walk On's dorm and like

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<v Speaker 2>the walk On's like, yeah, I'm Keith, Like it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like he's never met the coach obviously, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good look. And Rashaan Gary is great and

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<v Speaker 2>his mom might be the MVP of the early episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Rashan Gary's mom is great. She at one point, like

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<v Speaker 2>before maybe the Cincinnati game, Cincinnati, the air Force game,

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<v Speaker 2>she tells Rashaan Gary, star defensive lineman for the Wolverines,

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<v Speaker 2>bring me that quarterback ass it was. She's wonderful and

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<v Speaker 2>like Rashon Gary's awesome. He's like a four to zero student.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's I'm not a Michigan fan, but I love

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<v Speaker 2>these behind the scenes shows and I think it's worth

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<v Speaker 2>checking out.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we'll good to know. Personal recommendation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I like it. So far, so good, and you

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<v Speaker 2>get to if you don't like Michigan, you get to

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<v Speaker 2>watch Michigan lose a bunch, so get.

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<v Speaker 1>To watch them lose. Yeah, all right, well, fun show,

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk about some teams we don't always talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate everyone stopping by. As we said at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, a lot of exciting stuff to come

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<v Speaker 1>here over the next days and weeks, so keep it

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<v Speaker 1>tuned into the show. You can also find us out

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram if you'd like more updates

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going on. My final note is that I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to congratulate the winner of our pick a pool, Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh who was it, gentlemen by the name of Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have sworn you told me of Villanova won

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<v Speaker 1>at all? I was incorrect.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and you were trusted to buy a house with

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<v Speaker 2>that math?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Not good? Right? All right, Well, congratulations to mom H,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm sure it was a good showing.

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<v Speaker 1>Mama H won a different basketball pool that she was

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<v Speaker 1>in good or came in second. I should say glad

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it. But Anthony one hours are going to

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<v Speaker 1>send him a shirt. Good on you, sir for winning.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time listening to the program. We appreciate your participation

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<v Speaker 1>in support over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all I got, Dan, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that's all I have. I'm going to Atlanta in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks now, maybe Nashville after that. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you when you have extra time, Tie,

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<v Speaker 2>you say yes to travel. I will leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 1>for myself, Tie Hildebrand, We'll catch you.

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<v Speaker 2>All in a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy your week, Enjoy your weekend. And in the meantime

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<v Speaker 1>stay solid peace,