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Speaker 3: This is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff

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Speaker 3: where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,

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Speaker 3: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 4: Shooting Election Day. Who welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: The low it's fifty five.

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Speaker 7: You can't see it right now, but they're putting the

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Speaker 7: Christmas tree up outside.

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Speaker 8: They're playing Christmas music, like we just we just totally

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Speaker 8: disrespect Thanksgiving thanks just like it's like soon as we

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Speaker 8: go from the head, it's like, yeah, okay, yeah, let's

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Speaker 8: get that's where's the Mariah carry music and eggnog?

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Speaker 7: He is Nate, That is shit it. This is Kurt

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Speaker 7: in the back is Chris. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy.

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Speaker 7: talk Quipling, the brow people. When we speak brought.

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Speaker 5: Huge and every day by wings, stop work flavor gets

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Speaker 9: Back this week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, got a new receiver in the mix that we'll

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Speaker 5: talk about here in a second.

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Speaker 4: How you fellas doing today? Let's fine? Election day?

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Speaker 10: Good?

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Speaker 4: Yes, doing good?

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Speaker 11: Speaking of my wife came, I came on Friday November. First,

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Speaker 11: you got a Christmas tree.

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Speaker 6: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 11: What are you doing? This is a Christmas up already

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Speaker 11: we have like a smaller secondary one or whatever.

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Speaker 5: You have two Christmas second, secondary can't high money, can't

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Speaker 5: hi money wealth. When you have five kids, you can't

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Speaker 5: all get around one tree. So you gotta have like

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Speaker 5: like the kids.

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Speaker 11: You get a tree, happy wife, happy life, Go do

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Speaker 11: your thing.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, when did it start becoming used to?

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Speaker 5: It was Thanksgiving right the day after Thanksgiving all the

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Speaker 5: Christmas stuff came out.

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Speaker 4: Then then stuff started showing up in.

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Speaker 5: The stores over the last five or so years before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: And now the stuff's in there before Halloween.

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Speaker 5: Like people are legitimately going before Halloween to buy Christmas decoration.

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Speaker 4: Like when did this start? And I get it. They're

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Speaker 4: building the they're building the tree out on the plaza.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 6: Christmas extravaganza.

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Speaker 4: By the way, if you've never been, it's pretty it's

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Speaker 4: pretty awesome. Bring the kid, it's awesome.

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Speaker 6: It's free.

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Speaker 5: So I get it they're putting the tree up there,

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Speaker 5: getting ready for that. But when I got out of

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Speaker 5: my car and I heard the Christmas music being piped

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Speaker 5: through the star, I was like, Okay.

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Speaker 9: This is wildsgiving music. That it.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, that's wild well breaking news. This morning we

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Speaker 5: went out made some moves. I guess they listened to

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Speaker 5: our show yesterday and they said, you know what, not

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Speaker 5: only are we not going to get rid of folks

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Speaker 5: and acquire picks, we're going to give picks away and

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Speaker 5: go get something. Everybody will get super fired up about

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Speaker 5: a wide receiver from Carolina.

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Speaker 11: At least he's a younger guy. You got him for

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Speaker 11: a couple more years. I'll give him that much.

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Speaker 4: But my question is, Kurt, go ahead and tell us.

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Speaker 11: Who Jathan Jonathan Mingo Panthers second round pick, right, second

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Speaker 11: round pick, but wasn't doing much for the Panthers, so

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Speaker 11: they're hoping for a new start here.

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Speaker 6: Hadn't played the last two games last two weeks.

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Speaker 11: Right, he's played, but sparingly.

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Speaker 6: It has no stats the last two weeks basically.

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Speaker 9: Yeahokause nine catches totally fifteen.

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Speaker 5: My question is me, look in a in a year

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Speaker 5: that's coming up a well, sorry for the whole season, right,

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Speaker 5: I guess my question for you guys is, first off,

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Speaker 5: why and in a year that you need draft collateral?

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Speaker 5: It looks like because you've you've missed a little bit

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Speaker 5: the last couple of years, why would you go unless

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Speaker 5: you really like this guy? And from what we hear

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Speaker 6: Was it two years ago?

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Speaker 9: Jess?

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Speaker 5: Yes, why would you go do this on what seems

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Speaker 5: like another project and give up a was it?

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Speaker 6: Fourth rounder?

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Speaker 5: You're getting a seventh rounder, but still you're giving up

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Speaker 4: That you were hoping works out? Like, why would you that?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 11: Again, I guess they're hoping that they can develop him enough. Again,

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Speaker 11: they'll have him for a couple more years. They're hoping

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Speaker 11: they can develop him enough.

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Speaker 4: When is a developmental guy worked out here?

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Speaker 9: Well recently? No?

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Speaker 4: Like, when is when is a guy like, hey, we

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Speaker 4: like this guy, we're gonna go and that.

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Speaker 5: Look I'm not being critical, I mean, I'm just asking

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Speaker 6: When is one of those guys worked out.

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Speaker 11: It's hard to judge because look who's he had, he's

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Speaker 11: had thrown to him. I mean he had, you know,

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Speaker 11: a young kid last year. They got benched and then

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Speaker 11: the second rounder. Apparently the Cowboys really liked him coming

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Speaker 11: out of the draft, you know, into the draft, and

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Speaker 11: so they hope that in the right system, better quarterback.

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Speaker 11: When he's back, then they can build off him the

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Speaker 11: next couple of years. This isn't going to do much

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Speaker 11: worse this year, obviously.

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Speaker 7: But here's where I come in, like a little bit

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Speaker 9: And I get that this is.

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Speaker 7: Now created a future development project, right, but why not

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Speaker 7: do this a month ago when you had a healthy quarterback,

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Speaker 7: when there was still a glimmer of hope.

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Speaker 4: Is Dak just pissed right now?

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Speaker 12: Like really?

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Speaker 7: And I don't know what Mingo was going to be.

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Speaker 7: I've just been listening to other people and they said

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Speaker 7: shocked at what the Panthers were able to get from

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys for this player. And the next question is okay,

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Speaker 7: still on this rookie deal. You have some time with

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Speaker 7: room your coaching staff probably is not going to be

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Speaker 7: the same next year. Right, So now you come into

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Speaker 7: this situation and the coach next year may go, I

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Speaker 7: got I got no need for this guy. This guy

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Speaker 7: doesn't fit what I wanted to do or my play

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Speaker 7: is to get I don't need big receivers. I may

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Speaker 7: it says to me is, Jenny, that I've been pushing

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Speaker 7: to go get a guy, to give up a fourth

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Speaker 7: the draft two years ago, who was a second round pick,

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Speaker 7: and the comps to who he is as a player,

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Speaker 7: it's very similar to the guys that you're actually playing now.

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Speaker 7: That tells me that they may have said Jalen Brooks

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Speaker 7: Jayalen Tobert Ryan Floinoy, you're not that guys like you're

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Speaker 7: not the guys for us. Now, maybe some of you

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Speaker 7: that that kind of lets me know how they feel

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Speaker 7: Brandon Cooks at the end of this year, he probably

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Speaker 7: Tolbert and this is a guy who hasn't gotten to

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Speaker 7: a place where he was a bona fide number two

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Speaker 7: wide receiver. And my god, Joe Hoyd got on this

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Speaker 7: thing called Comparable something like that and it literally said,

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Speaker 7: this guy's compass, Ryan Floydoyd, And this is a guy

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Speaker 7: who can't get on the football field consistently for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 9: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: How you doing today.

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Speaker 2: By the way, now I'm great, I'm great, great stuff,

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Speaker 2: just great stuff, Kurt. I need him on the field now.

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Speaker 2: If we just went out and got a guy that

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Speaker 2: we're gonna ramp up, as we notoriously do around here,

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Speaker 2: if he's not on the field next week catching four

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Speaker 2: or five targets, why why Because we got guys just

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Speaker 2: has to be much better than what we have. Because

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Speaker 2: if we sit.

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Speaker 6: Up and and and this guy, you know he need

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Speaker 6: to be over time.

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Speaker 9: We need to have after.

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Speaker 2: This said, we need to hear whoever the announces for

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Speaker 2: this game. Wow, man, this guy ain't been there for

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Speaker 2: four days. He's on the field that If he's that guy,

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Speaker 2: I'm good with it. If he's a guy I ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna see, but four or five weeks down down the line,

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Speaker 2: why did we get.

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Speaker 9: Him expected for the future. I don't I don't think.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that when you look at a guy

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Speaker 7: played that same week. When you look at Deamonte Adams,

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Speaker 7: he played in that same week, I personally don't believe.

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Speaker 9: This is a guy that you're going to play this week.

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Speaker 7: Maybe you get him in next week. Maybe your best

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Speaker 7: hope is to get him by Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 11: Youay, I said maybe maybe this week, but I would

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Speaker 11: think next week he's gotta be there.

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Speaker 9: I would hope, So, I would hope.

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Speaker 5: So the way the way that I look at it is,

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Speaker 5: I agree if they like him, good, if they if

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Speaker 5: they see something and it's a project, great. I don't

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Speaker 5: like giving up a fourth round draft pick. I'd rather

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Speaker 5: you take that fourth rounder, take a flyer on a

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Speaker 5: running back. Take a flyer on a quarterback, a future quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Take a flyer. Hell, take a flyer on a wide receiver,

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Speaker 5: that might work out instead of you know what this

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Speaker 5: guy is and what he's been there two years? What

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Speaker 5: could he turn into your third or fourth wide receiver? Like,

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Speaker 5: I just I don't. If it was for a seventh

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Speaker 5: like phil a bit. Fourth round can make an impact.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've seen that around here. Fourth rounders make

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Speaker 5: an impact. I just don't see giving that up to

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Speaker 5: go get a guy, and you got so many other

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Speaker 5: positions that you need help with right now. If you

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Speaker 5: were you know, obviously it's a for a future thing, But.

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Speaker 6: Why not I don't know. I just don't. I don't

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Speaker 6: understand it.

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Speaker 5: And if you go look at the social media from

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Speaker 5: the Panther, like all their fans like they feel like

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Speaker 5: they fleeced us. Their fans are like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: we really got this for this guy. Like go, if

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Speaker 5: you go look at some of that stuff, the people

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Speaker 5: that follow the team are like.

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Speaker 2: As a scout, as a scout, pro personnel handles this.

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Speaker 6: Will McLay.

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Speaker 2: The first question I would ask coach or Will is Oh, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: I'm missus Jones, how do you wonder?

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Speaker 2: And it don't matter either the three of these guys.

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Speaker 6: You, it's now.

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Speaker 2: If you, if you, if you, if we go into

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Speaker 6: What is his name?

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Speaker 2: Mark on Jonathan Mingo that that that was a wasted pick.

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Speaker 7: After the season and got him even cheaper, because a

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Speaker 6: That's what you do after the season.

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Speaker 9: Yea, this wasn't it, right? This wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Those teams are two more years on his contract. Maybe

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Speaker 4: Right, let's take our first break. Call us. We would

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Speaker 7: Because you know our callers, our callers don't do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Don't tell us who you voted.

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Speaker 18: I'm a little tired, man.

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Speaker 12: So I'm a little tired. But I'm making it.

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Speaker 18: He's not a playmaker, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 12: The Marcus Wead was a playmaker.

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Speaker 18: He made plays. So at this point, man, I'm just

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Speaker 18: I got. Thanks for taking my call, fellas, Thanks for

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Speaker 5: You you you you were heard, and your and your

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Speaker 15: Hoddly enough, it's Jessee in Houston.

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Speaker 20: time I called, right, I was talking about the draft.

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Speaker 20: Now now I'm totally disgusted because we just gave We

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Speaker 20: just gave away a draft pick.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 20: I totally read. Why are we giving away draft capital?

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Speaker 20: I was looking forward to the draft Now I'm not.

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Speaker 20: We might, like you said, we get a new coach in.

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Speaker 20: With the new coaches coming in, he might not even

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Speaker 20: like to receive He might want to change everything up.

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Speaker 20: But who wants to come in right now and we're

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Speaker 20: giving everything away?

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Speaker 6: Good point. Well, thank you for thank you for the call. Jesse.

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Speaker 6: You are yes and your feelings are valid. Dooly noted. So,

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Speaker 6: speaking of.

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Speaker 5: Draft and draft capital, we we have a guy that's

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Speaker 5: that's been inactive a lot this year that we gave

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Speaker 5: up some draft capital for and Trey Lance with Dak

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Speaker 5: being sidelined Cooper Russian. Would you try to get Trey

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Speaker 5: Lance into the game somehow, whether that's creating packages for

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Speaker 5: him or just just seeing what you got? Does it

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Speaker 5: matter at this point? Like what would you guys.

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Speaker 7: Do with So before you get into the answer that question,

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Speaker 7: just when you look at what the Cowboys have in

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. Right now, the Cowboys have a pick

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Speaker 7: in each of the first three rounds, so they have

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Speaker 7: picking the first, picking the second, picking the third. Uh

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Speaker 7: they have two fourths, I think one fourth now because

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Speaker 7: it just gave one away, three fifths and one seventh rounder,

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Speaker 7: and most people are saying probably that they may package

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Speaker 7: the seventh and maybe a fifth to move back up

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Speaker 7: into the fourth and then at the end of the

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Speaker 7: year if guys like Trey Lance and guys like Brandon Cooks,

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Speaker 7: if they go and sign somewhere else. I'm missing somebody else,

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Speaker 7: Chris who helped me out.

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Speaker 9: Who I'm missing that.

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Speaker 15: Make pencil would be the guys you lost last.

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Speaker 9: Year last.

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Speaker 7: Your Tony Polish. You'll you'll pick up some picks for

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Speaker 7: that at the end of the year. So right now

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Speaker 7: they have, you know, like I said, picks in the

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Speaker 7: first second, the third round, they have the one fourth

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Speaker 7: round pick, uh, two fifths and a seventh, So they

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Speaker 7: may be able to package that seventh and maybe none

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Speaker 7: of those fifth or maybe those two fifths and move

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Speaker 7: back up into the fourth round and get that pick back.

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Speaker 7: But to Jesse's point is, you have so many needs,

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Speaker 7: like there's not a need that you don't have. You

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Speaker 7: need a position, a position that you don't have a

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Speaker 7: need at. And I mean you can say quarterback, that's

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Speaker 7: the one position but you have a need at running back,

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Speaker 7: you have a needed receiver, you have a need at

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Speaker 7: offensive line, defensive line out behind ferg you gotta need

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Speaker 7: you gotta need there, you gotta need a corner, you

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Speaker 7: gotta need that line back, and you know safety like

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Speaker 7: there's a need everywhere. So to go and get a

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Speaker 7: guy and waste a fourth I shouldn't say waste, but

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Speaker 7: give a fourth round pickup for a guy like this

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Speaker 7: when you think about all that you need coming up,

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Speaker 7: it's just to row.

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Speaker 5: Right back to the Trey Lance question. Would you try

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Speaker 5: to get him into a game or does it even

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Speaker 5: matter at this point?

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Speaker 11: Why wouldn't you?

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Speaker 9: I mean just to he's not better than Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 11: No, but I mean why not work some packages where

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Speaker 11: he's running the barn something You're not see what he can.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna fool the rest of the league. I

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Speaker 2: don't care what you do. You're not gonna fool the

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Speaker 2: rest of the league. You're not putting him in there

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Speaker 2: to throw passes. Yes, and you and I have this

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Speaker 2: argument with some of my friends all the time about man,

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Speaker 2: we need a running No throwing.

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Speaker 6: Wins games, Throwing wins championships. If you can't throw, you

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Speaker 6: can't win. Did you see the overtime game last night?

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Speaker 11: Not even just a hint. Rush should be the starter.

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Speaker 11: He's gonna be playing most of snaps, but you wouldn't

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Speaker 11: work him in just a.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing with Trey Lance? What what are

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Speaker 2: you doing? If you tell me what are you trying

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Speaker 2: to do? Then I can I can give you a better.

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Speaker 11: Answer trying to I guess, just throw a different look

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Speaker 11: at the defense on the one hand, and two see

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Speaker 11: if he's got anything since he's already spent a fourth

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Speaker 11: round pick on him.

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Speaker 7: I mean, and you, my boy, so you know I

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Speaker 7: hate for me to go against you, no question ranks.

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Speaker 7: They know if he had anything, he would be the guy. Like,

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Speaker 7: there's a reason why he's the emergency quarterback every single

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Speaker 7: week because they go out there in that practice field

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Speaker 7: and the ref that he has been giving, he hasn't

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Speaker 7: shown them enough to go. You know what, Cooper Rush,

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Speaker 7: you're the third and moergency quarterback, and Trey Lance you're

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Speaker 7: the backup. So I like, I don't know to put

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Speaker 7: him out there to see what they don't.

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Speaker 9: They don't believe. They don't believe.

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Speaker 11: Apparently Jerry does because he said on the fan this morning.

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Speaker 11: Don't be surprised if he's out, if he's worked in.

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Speaker 6: So the only way I can see where king him

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Speaker 6: in is if if.

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Speaker 5: You get to a point where you're you you're mathematically eliminated,

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Speaker 5: and you just go, we don't play them and see

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Speaker 5: what what you got rest of the year. Put the

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Speaker 5: young guys in. He's we consider him a young guy,

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Speaker 5: even though he's not young. But this offense let him go.

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Speaker 5: We know we got Cooper Rushes. Let's see what it is, right,

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Speaker 5: it out? The rest of this offensive line badly protected. Right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but now you've got a more elusive, scrambling quarterback.

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Speaker 11: So maybe you know.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to I wouldn't want him to be

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Speaker 5: in for like as a running quarterback. I'd want to

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Speaker 5: see what how he reads defenses, what he's got, how

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Speaker 5: is mine works, and what his arm looks.

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Speaker 11: I mean, that's my question is not based on he's

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Speaker 11: the starter. It's like throw him in force five snaps

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Speaker 11: or something like that. I don't think that's not even

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Speaker 11: worth it.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's about like these gadget players we got, it's just

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Speaker 2: another one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my gadgets only work when you have something working.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, you have to have

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Speaker 7: something that's working, that's dominant, so that when you throw

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Speaker 7: a gadget in there, you know, like remember back when

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Speaker 7: we played the Detroit Lions and they had so many,

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Speaker 7: so much good stuff working, They're like, oh, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 7: go gadget play.

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Speaker 9: We'll line up alignment out. Why we'll do this.

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Speaker 7: Gadgets don't work when you don't have anything going well.

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Speaker 7: You see what happened in the game when we try

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Speaker 7: to run a fake pump pass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gadget plays when nothing else is working and use

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Speaker 5: a disaster.

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Speaker 2: And you know, gadget players are always within the first

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Speaker 2: two series of a game, and after they get blowed up,

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Speaker 2: the coach don't run it.

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Speaker 9: We just don't.

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Speaker 7: We don't have enough good things going in our favor

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Speaker 7: for gadget to work, right. This is why you don't

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Speaker 7: see Deuce out there. This is why you don't see

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Speaker 7: really Cavante doing a lot of those things. This is

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Speaker 7: why you don't.

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Speaker 9: We don't. We don't. We don't.

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Speaker 7: We don't have anything that's solid enough that we can

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Speaker 7: go what what are we gadgeting off of Like usually

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Speaker 7: a gadget comes off something that you're really good at.

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Speaker 7: We don't have anything that we're really good at. So

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Speaker 7: that when they see trail lands come out there, automatically,

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Speaker 7: you're gonna see.

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Speaker 9: They gonna start doing this. They're gonna change that coverage.

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Speaker 9: We all covers. Now everything back in his own because

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Speaker 9: what is he gonna do like this? You know what

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Speaker 9: I mean?

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Speaker 7: Like there's nothing that they can go out there and

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Speaker 7: say that they're good enough to for gadget to work.

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Speaker 7: The larms were gonna go off immediately, Yeah, makes sense.

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Speaker 17: is we're just hurting you in the trenches. My me

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00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 17: and my cousin grew up and we were a huge

669
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 17: Cowboys fan and he was a big fan of Nate Newton.

670
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 6: Thank you Tell your cousin.

671
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: I love him to death and I will not wave

672
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: him off in training camp.

673
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 17: Unfortunately, he passed away last year.

674
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 11: Man.

675
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah man. And every time I

676
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 17: had a jersey made for him, and every time he comes,

677
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 17: every time the game comes on, my lady jersey out.

678
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 17: I smoke one and we watched the game. I know

679
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 17: you got something. If Pam can still commentate, you can

680
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 17: still get out there like you've got to be able

681
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 17: to do something to help these boys.

682
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll be going to guess my method

683
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: of while we're wasting time for certain guys.

684
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 17: And one of those guys, Okay, we got this mango

685
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 17: mingo guy Hill, I thought he was a lineback. We

686
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 17: don't need to receive. We got enough bombs on the

687
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 17: sideline as it is. Like I said, I'm out here

688
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 17: a little. When I'm starting to I think I'm gonna

689
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 17: be a writing fan till we get off the snide

690
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 17: because lamar no, I would never ever uh yeah man,

691
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 17: hopefully we can uh rebam And I don't know. It's

692
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 17: gonna be tough. H I don't know. I'm just gonna

693
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 17: hang up and listen.

694
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 6: Sorry, guys, you do what you was doing for you called.

695
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 6: Thank you for listening.

696
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 15: You know what I was doing calling Anthony.

697
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: You're heard and your feelings are valid.

698
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 15: Chris Dolan noted, I have a question, Yes, sir.

699
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 4: Who has been cutting hair in the studio. Look, well,

700
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: it's going on in here.

701
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 15: You know what that is?

702
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 6: That's from the don't say it's from Halloween.

703
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 15: It's from Hallowea.

704
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 4: That is not that is that is hair?

705
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 15: What are you talking about?

706
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: There is hair in here on the on the lazy

707
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: Susan I didn't think it's I don't think it's my hair.

708
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 6: Come come in here.

709
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: That's not hair, that's that's fake spider, fake spider, spake

710
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: fighter spider, webs and legs.

711
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 15: Don't you want the next caller?

712
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, the next caller.

713
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 15: Come on, Randy in California.

714
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: Randy?

715
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 9: Do you today?

716
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 17: Oh?

717
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 22: I feel great?

718
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 17: Hey?

719
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 22: Happy election day?

720
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 15: Hey Nate, I got a question.

721
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 12: Is it all right if I write you in on

722
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 12: the ballot or what? He?

723
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 6: Man, Hey, don't do that, bro, don't do that. I'm

724
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 6: asking that five. Don't do that. I mean something crazy, man.

725
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 22: I'll donate to your campaign. Free set. Three dollars is

726
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 22: some free set.

727
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 14: Yeah?

728
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: Wow, you got anything for Kurt?

729
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 22: I can't ride in Kurt, he's too.

730
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 12: Quiet, that's right.

731
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 11: I don't want any part of that I got.

732
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 22: Hey, listen, man, you know this whole line is the problem.

733
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 22: I get that, you know, with two rookies and stuff

734
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 22: and Cooper beb look is looking promising. And I don't

735
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 22: like all this hate on Tyler guy in Now I'm

736
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 22: going to ask you if you think it's a position

737
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 22: coach that's not really helping these dudes, because you know,

738
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 22: still Steell is looking worse than that I remember, and

739
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 22: and Martin has tookn a huge decline. So with Martin,

740
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 22: it's it. I don't really see it's winning much games.

741
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 22: You think you think bad or one of the our

742
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 22: laydoga might be better at that guard position than Martin

743
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 22: right now since the since his decline has been significant.

744
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 22: And uh, you know, I'll let you. I'll let you

745
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 22: guys get back to work and keep talking. So I

746
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 22: want to make like a fetus and head out.

747
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 17: You guys have a blessed.

748
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: Dead rumors rumors are and I haven't went over and

749
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: called anybody. I should say that Martin is battling a back,

750
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: a bad back, and uh and and then it comes

751
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: a point if this continues that you.

752
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 6: Do have to give the young guy a little and

753
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 6: let it.

754
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: You know, in order to let me, let me explain

755
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: myself ahead if if the decline continues like it's continuing,

756
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't embarrass him. I don't to me leaving a

757
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: guy in who's been great as he has been. I'm

758
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna forget the money. I'm gonna protect him.

759
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: I got to this is a future Hall of Famer.

760
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: And if it's now, if he started leveling off and

761
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: start back getting He's not gonna be what he once was,

762
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: but start being above that average player that we saw

763
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: last year that was competing and that times dominating. No,

764
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: but if it continues to decline, I cannot do that

765
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: to him.

766
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 6: That's just Nate.

767
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 14: Now.

768
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 11: How much How big of a difference would it be

769
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 11: if you the other four guys are all the same.

770
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 11: We all know, you know, Tyler Smith's good, the other

771
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 11: three whatever, How big of a difference would it be

772
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 11: if just the one guy, if Zach was all pro Zach?

773
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: If come on, bro, how big is it when that

774
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: left tackle be sitting out there for the forty nine ers?

775
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: How big is it when Minnesota winning got a left

776
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: tackle traded for one the game that just played, and

777
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: boy they lit up the team.

778
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 4: But those are tackles.

779
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 9: Is guards?

780
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: That same effect. Larry Allen had that same effect. When

781
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: you got a dude that can move folks. The dude

782
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: for the Colts have that same effect that can't the

783
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: left guard for the coach.

784
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 9: Quintin Nelson, they have that.

785
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: When you have a dominant player that can put gaping

786
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: holes on folks, it's different. It's different. It is different,

787
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: and especially in the middle of the field. When now

788
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: you are solid in the middle, you can kind of

789
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 2: spread things out to make it come around the corners.

790
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: But when things there's a rushing in there on you

791
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: in the middle, it's a killer. If a quarterback can't

792
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: see what's finna hit him in the back. That's why

793
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: I left tackle in Our center was the most important things.

794
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: That's what I based this season off of. Our center

795
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: is playing okay, but I left tackle. It's not and

796
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: we are paying for it.

797
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 7: See what you said, I think was one hundred percent valid.

798
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 7: But don't you also embarrass him by taking him off

799
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 7: the field, like because something.

800
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Speaker 6: If he declined and jes you take him off the field.

801
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Only if he keeps declining, if he levels off.

802
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 6: It comes a point. And I understand.

803
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, man, because I thought of this. I'm like, wow,

804
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: he's not playing well. And you have came and said,

805
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: whoa you boy, Zach got handled. You know other people

806
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: that know the game coming, Oh boy, your boy getting handled.

807
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, what do you got to say?

808
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: And I keep saying, yeah, yeah, he's getting older. You

809
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: know in today's NFL. Back when we play oh no,

810
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: there's no way you can drag me off that field.

811
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: You got to wait till the end of the season

812
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: and cut me. Now, maybe he has that same attitude

813
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: because they can, Hey man Son, he may say, don't

814
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: even try. And if they give him that right, I'm

815
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: with him whatever he decided, because I.

816
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 7: Think he's earned that right. He's earned the right to

817
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 7: fall on the sword. You know what I'm saying, like

818
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 7: to go out, but go out on the shield. But

819
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 7: to go out, but to go out on the shield,

820
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 7: right like you know, yeah, because let's be honest, father,

821
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 7: Tim is undefeated, and backs don't get better.

822
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 9: They just don't.

823
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: They just But that's why I'm saying, if he's so

824
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: my father, take him out one or two games and.

825
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 9: Say, I just the man is giving him.

826
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: On a few people on this team that I will

827
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: kind of bring me to tears. He is one of them,

828
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: and the other one played with the Jets. You know,

829
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: he's struggling the same And I'm saying to myself that

830
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: caught out the same way. But now, like yesterday what

831
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: I said about Zeke, who has been a bigger fan

832
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: than Zeke, And now I can deal with your decline.

833
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: But I bet you, Zach Martin ain't over there missing meetings,

834
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: not doing the right thing, not saying the right thing,

835
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: see when when and especially and for me, I was

836
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: kind of like Zeke. They never make the money Zeke made.

837
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: But I was that guy that was gonna party, gonna

838
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: have a great time. I wasn't gonna be late to meetings.

839
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: That was just a no, no, wasn't gonna miss meetings.

840
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: That one's gonna never happen. But I was that guy

841
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 2: that got in trouble. But I never, in.

842
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 6: My mind, and it's probably the same in his mind.

843
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: Gonna hurt my team that way. And so I know

844
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: we're talking about Zach. What I'm saying to do difference

845
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: is one that you can put up with and give

846
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 2: that chance to fall on the shield, and that one

847
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't put up with because you have been

848
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: more than a lawyer to him. He held out, And

849
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: I promise you, I know one man upstairs, like we're

850
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: gonna pay everybody that's probably saying, nah, let's hold out

851
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: that one man you know who I'm talking about paying,

852
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: and didn't even waiver, brought you back, didn't even waiver.

853
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 6: And this is you know, this is what you do.

854
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 6: Can't have it, man, Chris.

855
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: Do we have anyone else?

856
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 15: Yes, we have Quincy and Jackson.

857
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 9: Miss y'all knew it was coming.

858
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 6: You slow with it.

859
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 4: My neck of the was Quincy.

860
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 12: How do you, fellows? I feel great. It's an honor

861
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 12: to be on here talking to you guys, especially Nate. Nate,

862
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 12: I was a big fan in the nineties. I'm a

863
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 12: fellow HBCU from Mississippi Valley State.

864
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 9: Cool Cool, you're right.

865
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it was about three years after him. So

866
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 12: look with Mingo, I'm pulling for this guy. I don't

867
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 12: live far from Brandon, Mississippi, where he was raised. I've

868
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 12: known his uncles for twenty years and I've met him

869
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 12: a couple of times. He's a really nice guy. I

870
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 12: watched him playing high school and at Old Miss, and

871
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 12: Old Miss has been really good with receivers as of late.

872
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 12: You know, I met CAF and A. J. Brown. They

873
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 12: put a couple of others out too. But what I

874
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 12: do like about him is his willingness to block. He

875
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 12: doesn't mind blocking for the run. He'll crash down on

876
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 12: the defensive end going in motion. So I like that

877
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 12: about him. I wouldn't have made this trade. Unless I

878
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 12: did it like a couple of weeks ago, I wouldn't

879
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 12: have done it now, and I definitely wouldn't have done

880
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 12: it given a fourth, even though I liked the guy.

881
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 12: But I'm hoping that it pays out off because I mean,

882
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 12: he has an old school mentality, so he'll fight for

883
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 12: the ball. He's the same size as Dazz, He's a

884
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 12: huge boxing fan. He loves being physical. I just think

885
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 12: that he needs a little focus, and it takes targets

886
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 12: to keep him focused because in Carolina he wasn't getting

887
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Speaker 12: a lot of targets, so when he got his opportunity,

888
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 12: sometimes he dropped the ball because he's so anxious to

889
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Speaker 12: make a play. So I'm hoping he can calm down,

890
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 12: get some looks, and you know, he may not be

891
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 12: the second coming of Alvin Harper or anything, but hopefully

892
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 12: he could be a solid number two for Dallas. And

893
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Speaker 12: I'm glad that he's getting a fresh start.

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00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 6: And it's good that somebody know this kid. Man. I mean,

895
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 6: maybe he will come in and do what he needs

896
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Speaker 6: to do.

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Speaker 2: But I believe this, if you give up a fourth,

898
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: because I'm I do a four round draft, I don't

899
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: feel six seven to eight and all of them the

900
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: first second. And I was a free agent now, so

901
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: nobody cared about me. But and I hate to do that,

902
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: but first four rounds mean a lot to me in

903
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: today's NFL. And after that you could have them. But

904
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: this kid needs to come in and play. He needs

905
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: to come in and produce.

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Speaker 23: And I mean quick, yeah, I mean you know what

907
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 23: that's as he was talking through that, Jesse, we know

908
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 23: how Nate feels about it. Would there be would it

909
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 23: be illogical to bring him in and just go, you

910
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 23: know what, We're gonna give you a week to ramp up,

911
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 23: and then you're gonna be our number three or number

912
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 23: four guy, and we're gonna put you plug in place.

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Speaker 5: See what you got, Give you a shot, like this

914
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 5: guy said, give him a fresh start. Maybe send a

915
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: message to some folks on this team say hey, we're

916
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 5: not standing pat like, compete, get in there and compete

917
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: for your job.

918
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: Just throw him out there and see what you got.

919
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: Is that illogical?

920
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 10: No?

921
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Speaker 7: But now you do that with the backup quarterback again.

922
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 7: Now everything and what may work out for him is

923
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 7: that you won't have a big of a playbook available

924
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 7: to the offense now because it's Cooper Russia, not Dak Prescott.

925
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Speaker 5: And you don't have predetermined chemistry already, everybody's kind.

926
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Speaker 15: Of well, this is a preturbreitate chemistry is even with

927
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Speaker 15: the back.

928
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Speaker 6: Of it is. Yeah, he's gonna have a special guy rot.

929
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Speaker 7: To Now, if you got Furd, take over m safety,

930
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 7: if you got take over, Yeah, he's right there.

931
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Speaker 9: Yeah, how long as a receiver?

932
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Speaker 11: How long will it take him to jump in and

933
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Speaker 11: know the routes and all that the language?

934
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Speaker 4: How quick could you get him in?

935
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Speaker 7: It all depends on how you want to because like,

936
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Speaker 7: even excuse me, even when you watch guys like Davante Adams.

937
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Speaker 9: Like and and and and.

938
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Speaker 7: Hopkins, I'm sure they're getting in the huddle and Patri

939
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Speaker 7: Mahomee's like, hey, you know what you got go over

940
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 7: there to the right. Yeah, and then they're helping him

941
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Speaker 7: out in that sense. Uh So, it's all about what

942
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 7: you what do you want from him? If you want

943
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 7: him to go out there and play forty or fifty snaps,

944
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 7: you're gonna have to help him.

945
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Speaker 9: There's going to be some assistance.

946
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 7: There's gonna be in the huddle, like you're gonna call

947
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 7: the play and I'm gonna look at him and go, hey,

948
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 7: uh I mingo, hey you you you want a slot?

949
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 7: You gotta go like there's gonna be some helping out.

950
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Speaker 7: As he continued, you don't. You don't come in unless

951
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 7: you what that previous coach or OC somewhere else. You

952
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 7: don't come in right away without some assistants from that

953
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 7: in the huddle, from those quarterbacks to give you a

954
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 7: chance to do the right things.

955
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Speaker 5: You know something I noticed on today's show, Nate. I

956
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Speaker 5: just want to say I'm thankful for you. Every Tuesday Friday,

957
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 5: if you.

958
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Speaker 6: Want to hear no one would call this show.

959
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: Everyone just wants to call say hey, this was for Nate.

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Speaker 6: So thank you.

961
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Speaker 4: You create Tuesdays and Friday.

962
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Speaker 8: You know what.

963
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Speaker 6: I love you guys because I can be me.

964
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Speaker 9: I got you. Thank Yeah, he was trying to you

965
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Speaker 9: can be you.

966
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Speaker 2: I can be me man, Jesse voice the reason I

967
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: stole it from him for about two weeks and then.

968
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Speaker 9: Have you had to win the proud baby.

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00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 5: Thanks for calling in. We will take calls again on Friday.

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00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 6: And Chris dropped the bomb and we go use it

971
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Speaker 6: sooner or later.

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 6: He dropped the bomb in the back of.

974
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Speaker 4: Tomorrow we're gonna do.

975
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Speaker 6: What are we gonna do?

976
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Speaker 4: Cowboys offense? Tomorrow?

977
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Speaker 9: Boys offense.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to get to Thursday.

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Speaker 9: So how do we do it with Cooper? How we

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Speaker 9: do it?

981
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Speaker 6: We're gonna have to assume with Cooper?

982
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Speaker 4: Watch last year's watch the last year. Go vote, you'll

983
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 4: tell us who you vote for. Chris, thanks for keeping

984
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: us on the air. Josh and Jazz, thanks for keeping

985
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: but I'm voted.

986
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Speaker 9: What's up with that shirt?

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Speaker 4: By the way, it was the.

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Speaker 6: Tightiest one I had on.

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Speaker 2: I like that way and you know they had to

990
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Speaker 2: iron it because you picked at me yesterday said.

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Speaker 6: Like, I like it.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back tomorrow. Hang with the boys.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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