1 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Draft Kings Collab. I think everybody's been 2 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: waiting on this, I know since we started our show. 3 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: This is something that I was interested in doing. No 4 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: two men. I respect for the way that they live life, 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: for the way that they played the game more than 6 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: Stack and Matt, obviously Chan and Freddie Tea, but more importantly, 7 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: what they're doing post career, I think is a step above. 8 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Like so many people want to get into the business 9 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: of broadcast of media, I don't think everybody can figure 10 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: out how to do it and continue to remain their 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: authentic selves. I think both of these brothers have done that, 12 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: and they've done it in a way where they can 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: go into any office building and do business right. But 14 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: they can also walk into any hood and have conversations 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: with the same people that look like them. I think 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: that's the important part about what we do, is being 17 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: able to bring this right into the buildings of people 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: that don't look like us. 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Why are you talking about them like we ain't we 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: ain't no good every day? 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: Let us give. 22 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes. 23 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: Y'all know, these two. 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: Brothers doing so well that damn I'm doing well too. 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: But let us return to fame. 26 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, first off, we honored to be here with 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 6: y'all and we can say the same things. I think 28 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 6: just from watching all all your careers and we know 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 6: what it takes to be in this space, and we 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 6: know how hard we get critiqued. Athletes who's actually done 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: it right, they'll go to a hospital and that a 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 6: doctor tell him I need to cut you up and 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 6: do this, and they'll be like, Okay, but we actually 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 6: did the sport and are the experts. 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: Edit. But when we talk about it, we get critiqued. 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 6: So I respect how y'all handle at I respect how 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 6: y'all support each other. 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: You know, I say many shows. 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 6: And I was just talking about it about how we 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 6: know he always real humbed. Don't say too much, but 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 6: y'all kep giving him his flowers and like, bro, be 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 6: proud of yourself. 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: You've really done some great shit. 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 6: So I appreciate that, and I love seeing brothers give 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 6: each other they flowers daily and also went it together. 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: So so salute you out too. 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 7: Appreciate and also too, I just think, you know, Ryan 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 7: and your crew, you guys have kind of set the 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 7: standard for what it's supposed to be. Like, you know 50 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 7: what I mean, and I think both both sides. I mean, 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 7: we've done it from a basketball standpoint. You guys have 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 7: done it from a football standpoint, but also understanding that 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 7: the platform that we were given, we've also understood that 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 7: that's gonna lead to other opportunities individually and collectively. And 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 7: I think that's what you know, you love to see 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 7: is you know, you on ESPN, me on ESPN, you 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 7: guys doing other individual things that have stemmed from coming 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 7: together and fellowship and and really just talking shit and 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 7: have a good time, you know what I mean. And 60 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 7: to be able to be paid like we are still 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 7: athletes too, is another blessing. 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: You know. 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm a man of like this many words, 64 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 8: but no, that's. 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 5: Love, man. 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 8: And we try to lead with positivity, you know, like 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 8: we know we have a lot to offer and our experiences, 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 8: but really we feel like we have a bigger agenda, 69 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 8: you know, and just really giving back to our community 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 8: and doing it the right way. So I think from 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 8: all of our experiences and just trying to bridge the gap, 72 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 8: it makes it worthwhile, you know, to come here. I know, 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 8: I'm not sure how you guys do it, but we're 74 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 8: we're on the flight every week. We grinding, we hustle, 75 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 8: were trying to make it happen. And once we you know, 76 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 8: decided to do this, we said we got to do 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 8: it none stop. 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 5: And that's what the ultimate pivot is. 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 8: So everything you see of us give y'all were doing 80 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 8: it out of our hearts. 81 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: The question I would have for y'all, though, is like 82 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: the way, like everybody who plays a sport ain't tough, right, 83 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: like you you know, cats that are athletic, cats that 84 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: are talented, and their job was to go play the sport. 85 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: And then there were other people who had a different 86 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: sort of grind in a way they approached it. Both 87 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: of you guys being guys that kept it real on 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: the court right that played physically, played the game with skill, 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: with technique, but also seemed like y'all were always ready 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: to be whatever you had to be to help a 91 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: team win. And now you move into this this other 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: realm of life, this other part of media where people 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: expect you to be button up, people expect you to 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: speak a certain way, act a certain way, sort of 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: retreated to yourselves. How have you maintained the exact people 96 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: you are growing up? And now flipped it into the 97 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: second career. 98 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 7: I mean, I just think what has allowed us to 100 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 7: have success hosts NBA is just authenticity. I think you know, 101 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 7: what you see is what you get with us. Never perfect, 102 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 7: but always real. I think through our career we understood 103 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 7: the assignment. 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 9: We both didn't. 105 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 7: We both got drafted but didn't make our first run 106 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 7: at the NBA, so we had to take different journeys 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 7: to get to where we are. To both end up 108 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 7: winning the NBA championships to both respect we played fifteen 109 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 7: and fourteen years in the league is through who we 110 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 7: really are. So I mean, I think that drive as 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 7: an athlete one thing we talked to Cod about. We 112 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 7: did Cod's last interview, and you know, he told us, 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 7: you know, as athletes were disciplined, were structured, were thinkers, 114 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 7: all those things transfer over to business and I think, 115 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 7: you know, everyone handles those qualities different but as long 116 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 7: as you stay true to yourself and transfer and put 117 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 7: the working because a lot of people think, oh man, 118 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 7: I can do a podcast. Shit ain't easy, like they said, 119 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 7: were on flights every single week, tracking people down, doing 120 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 7: our homework, doing our homework for our other shows, being fathers, 121 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 7: being businessmen, being partners, there's a lot of stuff that 122 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 7: goes into this, so we treat this as if this 123 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 7: is our next app Although we're not physically on the 124 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 7: field of the court, this is our next act. 125 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 9: We treat it as if we are still on the 126 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 9: field of the court. 127 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 6: And I just think I've always had the attitude to 128 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: I appreciate everything. So my attitude in the game was 129 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 6: I got to prove myself constantly. I wasn't Kobe, or 130 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 6: wasn't none of them, but I was. I was a 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 6: player that competed with everybody. So I always played with 132 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 6: a passion and played the game like I appreciate it. 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 6: So coming into this space, I tell my team, I 134 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 6: tell him every day, Bro, I appreciate you, because there's 135 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 6: so many people that especially retired athletes, that don't have 136 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 6: nothing going on. I don't get the opportunity that the 137 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 6: opportunities that we get in after sports. So I tell 138 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 6: my team all time, I appreciate them, and we worked 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 6: so hard, like this our last show, we won't have 140 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 6: another show. We appreciate everything we get, and I think 141 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 6: that's why we win it. And we appreciate our fans too, 142 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 6: because we constantly show the people that support us that 143 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 6: we appreciate them. That's why we always out in the community. 144 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 6: That's why we talk to people and engage on social 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 6: media because we don't want we've we've never been the 146 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 6: type that get the success from my fans but don't 147 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 6: relate with them or interact with you know, I'm saying, 148 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 6: I've always been somebody that that's always in the streets 149 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 6: and like to be around the people because that the 150 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 6: people that make us always made us. 151 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: They gave us the. 152 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 6: Motivation to make it being in the hoods with so 153 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 6: many people saying you can't, so many people that didn't 154 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 6: make it, that's the motivation we get to make it. 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 6: So just appreciating my people around me, appreciating the gift 156 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: and the opportunity to be in this podcast space, that's 157 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 6: what keep me going and this space. 158 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: And it's funny y'all both talking about the transition, the 159 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: transition out of sports and this space that we're in. 160 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you can chase money, because that was 161 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: the one thing I do local radio on South Florida. 162 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: I was working for I think was twenty seven grand 163 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: a year. It wasn't about to check. It was about 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: the experience of work. And communicating and all that stuff, 165 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: And did y'all ever have that time when it was 166 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: like it couldn't be about money because you weren't making 167 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: no money once you transition. And I think a lot 168 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: of I would say and take it deeper. I think 169 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: a lot of athletes struggle from making those millions whatever 170 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: it is, and then why am I gonna work hard 171 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: to make forty grand y'all see what I'm saying, y'all? 172 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: Was it ever time like that with y'all? Any of y'all? 173 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 9: I think it's just understanding we got to pay our 174 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 9: dues now. 175 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 7: You know, as former athletes, sometimes we get tossed to 176 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 7: the top of the totem pole or sometimes we get 177 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 7: tossed to the bottom. So depending on every situation is 178 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 7: you know how you maneuver and how you react. So 179 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 7: as you said, you know, jumping into Fox at first 180 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 7: and then ESPN and understanding it's not a ton of money, 181 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 7: it's not what I'm used to making, but I understanding 182 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 7: it's a hell of a platform to have my face 183 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 7: on ESPN, have my face on Fox, to have my 184 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 7: face on NBCB area, have my face on Showtime. So 185 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 7: my whole thing now is in this next act. My 186 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 7: initial plan was to have my face on as many 187 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: quality platforms as possible until one of them that I 188 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 7: really really want to do can take over all of them. 189 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question, rn you know, I've 190 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 6: I fell into a big space with George Floyd and 191 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 6: becoming with a lot of say are speaking for the culture, 192 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 6: and I think you you fell into that space, and 193 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 6: I'm honored to say that. And even with sports and 194 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: the culture, having that role, knowing eyes are always on you, 195 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 6: knowing that that people are expecting your opinion to be 196 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 6: what they want you to say, and it's not that 197 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 6: all the time. How do you handle that with being 198 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 6: on TV and and being you know, out with the people, 199 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 6: because everybody gonna agree with everything you say. 200 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: So I think y'all said it. I think y'all said 201 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: it right at the beginning. Though if you authentic, it 202 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: don't matter, right, Like I always say, it's easier for 203 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: me to tell the truth because lives are hard to remember, right. 204 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: So if I'm the same every time, that doesn't mean 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: you have to agree with me. Because what normally happens 206 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: is if there's something that you speak out on and 207 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: a mass majority of people will agree with you. They 208 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: feel like they want to agree with you all the time. 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: But now I'm talking for you, I'm not talking for me. 210 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: And I think the other piece of it is too 211 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: like every fight ain't my fight. You know, you you 212 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: had a connection to George Floyd. You had a passion 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: for that, and so you not only put your time 214 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: into it and your money into it, but you put 215 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: your face on it. 216 00:09:59,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: Right. 217 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: It's different when people see you and they connect you 218 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: to something because now forever you were connected to that. 219 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: And I think for me it was just like, right's right, 220 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I get it all 221 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: the time now, right, Like if I even say anything 222 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: that has to do with race or culture, it's because 223 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: that's the new the new keyword, right is race vader Right. 224 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: That word was created through this tumultuous time because they 225 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: needed something that could discredit the truth, you know what 226 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean. And so the people that use that word, 227 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: they say, Okay, if we use this, this immediately turns 228 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: the people who follow us to make this person feel 229 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: or feel like this person is something else. But if 230 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm me, I don't give a damn no way, right, 231 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: And that was the thing you know. And I tell 232 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: this story all the time. I've told them in twenty 233 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: and sixteen, twenty seventeen, during Kaepernick, they stopped putting me 234 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: on TV. Right. They would come in the production meeting 235 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: and be like, well, the President said this, how do 236 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: you feel about this? Or the President said this about athletes? 237 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: How do you feel about this? And I'd give my answer. 238 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: Y'all know how productions work. You do the show before 239 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: you do the show, and then they go are you 240 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna say that on TV? 241 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 10: And I'd be like, hell yeah, and they be like, well, 242 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 10: we're not gonna ask you, right. And in some of 243 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 10: that and some of that, I respect them because it's 244 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 10: some of that. At that time they were saving me 245 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 10: from yourself, right, because if I go out there and 246 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 10: I say that, now I'm viewed a certain way. But 247 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 10: then let's fast forward to twenty twenty when you were 248 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 10: a big part of it. 249 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Now I'm on daze off, I'm at the house not 250 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: doing nothing. Hey man, can you come on TV today? 251 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: Your voice is so needed. The people want to hear 252 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: from you. And the thing I always say about that 253 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: was I was able to say I never switched up, right. 254 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: I was able to say I didn't change up because 255 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: they wouldn't put me on TV, right, I stayed myself. 256 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's important, because even if they 257 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: don't agree with me, they know I'm not doing it 258 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: for anybody else. That's truly what I feel. 259 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 7: And also, I think, too is something that's important is 260 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 7: that you don't always We don't always were not always 261 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 7: gonna agree with each other. We always gonna have different viewpoints. 262 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 7: But I think in Jackson's All the time, you can 263 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 7: disagree without disrespect. And I think now when people don't 264 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 7: agree with you, they want to attack your person, your character, 265 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 7: your family, and we all ready to fight it at 266 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 7: any given time, you know what I mean. So that's 267 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 7: why we really got to be careful. But I think 268 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 7: there's ways for me to disagree with Fred, or me 269 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 7: to disagree with Channing or even Stack, but still have 270 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 7: a conversation with respect, because again, at the end of 271 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 7: the day, we're all learning, we're all evolving, and I 272 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 7: think some people get so set in their ways that 273 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 7: they block something that could truly help them, or sometimes 274 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 7: they'll kill the message because they don't like the messenger, 275 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So I just think we 276 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 7: have to really be more open minded and understand there's 277 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 7: always going to be another opinion. There's always going to 278 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 7: be another point of view that you don't necessarily have 279 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 7: to agree with. 280 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: But hear it out if that's the space you're in, 281 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Freddy T And I give him this because, like me, 282 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, when I hear it, I'm ready to Like, 283 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: we realized we had to start protecting each other in public. 284 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 285 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: You probably calculated us. 286 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's always thinking he's always the one that's measured, 287 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: and he'll be like, okay, RC, Like nah, I don't 288 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: do this, RC, I don't know about that. And that's 289 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: how I know, Like when he it calms me down 290 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: because I'm like, hell, if fred pissed off, we all got. 291 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: You be chilling man now. 292 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 8: But seriously, I think you know just the reason why 293 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 8: we're here Draft Kings obviously, and I guess this is 294 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 8: for everybody. Have you guys on your platform and then 295 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 8: channel and Ryan, how do you use draft Kings platform 296 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 8: to foster certain connections you know and be able to 297 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 8: get certain messages out. 298 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 7: I think that DraftKings comes with a different demographic for 299 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 7: us and for you guys. 300 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 9: You know what I mean. 301 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 7: So it's always a new opportunity to meet new people, 302 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 7: shake new hands, and hear new points of views, but 303 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 7: also get our point of view across to a whole 304 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 7: new audience game fans, and sometimes they won't like what 305 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 7: to be saying and possibly lose them. But at the 306 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 7: same time, to me, it's about again, like I said earlier, 307 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 7: my goal with being on different platforms, I'm speaking to 308 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 7: some similar audience, but sometimes all these networks I'm talking 309 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 7: to have different audiences that are in love with that 310 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 7: particular network. So for me to be on four different 311 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 7: mainstream networks is the opportunity to meet new people and 312 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 7: it foster new relationships and be brought into new situations 313 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 7: and a lot of things with athletes too, is we're 314 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 7: talking at the business side and the tech side. 315 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 9: You know, we're able to get into stuff. 316 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 7: Sometimes you got to put money in, but sometimes just 317 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 7: your likeness alone is enough for these brands to build 318 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 7: something around you or give you a piece of what 319 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 7: they have because they like what you stand for, the 320 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 7: way you carry yourself and the way you could educate 321 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 7: you know, Uh, what's the word I'm looking for when 322 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 7: I'm trying to sound smart, eloquently speak or you know, uh, 323 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 7: you know, really speak to eloquently. 324 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 9: That's what it is, speak on the matter at hand. 325 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 7: So again, I just think it is we're always looking 326 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 7: because especially you know with Jack and I, we were 327 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 7: the bad guys. You know, he got in one of 328 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 7: the biggest fights in NBA history and lost the whole season. 329 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 7: I fought off the court and everyone knows the reason. 330 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 9: I but it's you. 331 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: Know, you. 332 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: Can ask me whatever you want. 333 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 7: I see, but I think people see a snapshot of 334 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 7: you and give you a label. Well that's who Jacks 335 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 7: of thugs because he went in the stands and protected 336 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 7: his teammate. Or I'm a bad guy because I had 337 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 7: to do some ship that I had to do. But again, 338 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 7: it's it's always it's a small snapshot, and we really 339 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 7: enjoy kind of changing changing ideals of those people. 340 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: What you gotta say, I asked this crowd, like and 341 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: I asked this question like, no, no, we're talking about transition. 342 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: How the fuck you drive for twenty hours? Mad thinking 343 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: like hour, one hour, two hour, three hour, four, Like 344 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: you gotta sit back soon, lady. 345 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 7: That was so, that was that was the urban legend 346 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 7: because Kanye rapped about it. 347 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 9: I really only drove fifteen minutes. 348 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that makes well. I was like quick trip 349 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: because I know that I'm about to say, like I know, 350 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: us life skilled fellas, like we won't be mad that 351 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: long like I was. 352 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 7: I was, I was back in the house firing one 353 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 7: up in like forty five minutes. 354 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 11: Quick round trip. That makes a lot of sit Yeah, 355 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 11: uick round trip. Easy to stay mad that long? Yeah, 356 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 11: fifteen yeah. I think though, like to the other space 357 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 11: that I love. 358 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: What Matt's talking about, though, is actually using the platforms 359 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: because there's only so long your name truly stays hot, 360 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: right that there's a time when you're a player and 361 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: you're you know, y'all mention it like you mentioned not 362 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: being cold, and those like those guys are going to 363 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: get first DIBs at a lot of things, right, And 364 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: so when you do get your opportunities. I say this 365 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: all the time. Every day is an interview. Every hand 366 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: you shake, every conversation you have, somebody's looking at you 367 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: and trying to critique you and figure out what can 368 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: they use you for. And so while people are using 369 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: us to give them that face or to give them 370 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: that voice, we have to be using that platform as 371 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: well for the next step, for that step or for 372 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: the next hand we get to shake where we walk 373 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: into a different room. 374 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was gonna say, like to the point 375 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: of why why this works and like the drafting connection 376 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: and the podcasting because podcasting blew up the tech like 377 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: the tech side blew up and all. No gonna talk 378 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: about that. But I always say it as like people 379 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: aren't used to seeing five alpha males sit down and 380 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: not fight to what you said, like we disagree, Oh now. 381 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: We gotta fight. No, we ain't gotta fight. 382 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: We disagree and we respect each other. And I really 383 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: believe is if this podcasting space, especially with ex athletes, 384 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, these are males that run there I 385 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: call I call dudes, like not myself. These four ecosystems, 386 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: like ecosystem are people that employ people and like everybody's 387 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: making money off you just being alive. 388 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't know that. 389 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: And I've I've been around, I know, I hang with 390 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: a lot of these ecosystems. 391 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: I call them lions, and people aren't used to. 392 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: So somebody that's really not a lion that sees five 393 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: lions sitting around and just vibing and we disagree. 394 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 5: We good to disagree, we cool to disagree. 395 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: I think that might calm their little inside fire and 396 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: what not. Well, fuck you buddy, So why you'ments are 397 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: there because that's usually dude that get real hot to 398 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: fuck you, fuck you money dude be But that's but 399 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: that's why I really think this works. As I go 400 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: through it and I go on pause, and I sit around 401 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: with my two g's, you know, weekly and then just 402 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: watching y'all from afar, like saying like these are lions, 403 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: these are men. This is a dude that's sit in 404 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: the car and be hot for twenty hours. 405 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: That was in my mind, man, I thought you were. 406 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: When I tell the story going forward, it's still twenty hours. 407 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: And then I saw this man better. 408 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: I saw this man throw a punch from here from him. 409 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: Damn you wanted to fuck him up. 410 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 6: So what a lot of y'all don't know is when 411 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 6: I grabbed run, another beer was thrown in his face 412 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 6: and he tried to throw the beer and get away. 413 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: So I couldn't let this lie. 414 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 9: I couldn't let that. 415 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 7: But also too, I want to say, you know, look 416 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 7: how far we've come in and really shout out to 417 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 7: DraftKings because none of us, as we said, none of us, 418 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 7: with all due respect, we're superstars in our sport. We're 419 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 7: all with role players and got the job done. But 420 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 7: for us to be one of the talking heads for 421 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 7: such a big company, and not just Draftings, we're all 422 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 7: affiliated with other companies. But look how far we've come, 423 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 7: and it's because we've been able to articulate our point 424 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 7: of view. Everyone's always told our stories, and with all 425 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 7: due respect, most of the time it's white people trying 426 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 7: to tell our stories. And sometimes they do a good job, 427 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 7: and sometimes they misshit that we see. Other people may 428 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 7: not see, but we see it. But I think we've 429 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 7: been able to transition now to be able to obviously 430 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 7: tell our own stories, give our brothers and sisters opportunity 431 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 7: tell our own stories, but then also encourage others. I 432 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 7: can't tell you how many times people from the league 433 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 7: have come like, yo, we've started our show because of 434 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 7: all the smoke, or we want to be this version 435 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 7: of all the smoke. And when we started this, it 436 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 7: wasn't necessariity to inspire is the greatest human acting There 437 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 7: wasn't necessarily first on top of our mind. But once 438 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 7: we kind of got into it and we started getting 439 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 7: that feedback, we took that as a badge of honor 440 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 7: because we are opening these doors. And Ryan said before 441 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 7: we got on camera, it's athlete driven. Now media is 442 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 7: athlete driven when we're talking about sports in particular. I 443 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 7: know you guys would rather hear from with with our 444 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 7: brother Steven A. 445 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: Smith. 446 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 7: As great as he is, he doesn't know what it's 447 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 7: like to have to knock down the free throw to 448 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 7: send the game into overtime, or to get it make 449 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 7: a big play, or get get across the goal line 450 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 7: for a touchdown. So although he's great at what he does, 451 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 7: when it comes from the people who really did it, 452 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 7: I think he obviously carries more weight and respect. 453 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 8: Hey, Matt, you talk about, you know, the evolution, right 454 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 8: starting from about having your struggles then going up the 455 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 8: three of you arec was undrafted. You know, you guys 456 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 8: had your early challenges, but the three of you won championships. 457 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 8: Channing and I we're on the outside. 458 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: I love it, guys. 459 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 8: By the way, I just want to say. 460 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: Every show when I'm joined by other champions, there are 461 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: certain things we can talk about that Fred or Channing 462 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: cannot you know. 463 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: This is when Matt was mentioned in. 464 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: You know, some of those moments. 465 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I know I was feeling because y'all are 466 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: intelligent people. 467 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm in a different round, but man, fuck you. 468 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 8: One I'm trying to make and I'm trying to make 469 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 8: a crossover, right. I want to talk about like you guys' career, 470 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 8: it's sort of like what we have here with technology 471 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 8: and what the message we're trying to get across from 472 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 8: getting technology just evolves over time, pretty much like your careers, 473 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 8: and then but you don't know what it's gonna give you. 474 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 8: There's been plenty times where I try to log into 475 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 8: my DraftKings account to get that one o'clock parlay, I'm like, fuck, 476 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 8: the Wi Fi fucked up. I can't get my play in. 477 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 8: But eventually it happens, and then it's a beautiful thing 478 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 8: because I'm here, but I'm able to play the games 479 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 8: all across the world, and that is the beauty on 480 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 8: the flip side of technology, pretty much like your related 481 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 8: like your careers. 482 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 5: It was some struggles. 483 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 8: Early on, but at the end of the day, those 484 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 8: championships have, you know, have to mean something. So from 485 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 8: you guys, perspectives, what's that feeling like? Because I wasn't 486 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 8: able to feel it. I really want to know what's that. 487 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: I think the one thing too, that I want to 488 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: say about you, because you won't say it, is. 489 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: Our careers were very similar. 490 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: This was not you know what. 491 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: I didn't want to I didn't want to check man. 492 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 6: Person, I'm a huge for you that I did some 493 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 6: Hall of fame. 494 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 11: You got it. 495 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 8: Saying that what bun Bet I told bun b I 496 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 8: love him to death. 497 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 5: I love his music. I used to text them testing 498 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 5: he did. 499 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: I think. 500 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing though, And like even 501 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: as it pertains to like the content and the way 502 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: technology works, it's also understanding. I think when you have 503 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: a certain career, it makes your grind different. Like I'm 504 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: just a worker, you know what I'm. 505 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: Saying, Like you know it, like Chad knows it. 506 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Like when we go in to a show man, like 507 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: I don't I barely talk because like I got my 508 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: notebook out, I got my phone out or wherever I 509 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: got taking notes. Right, I'm trying to tell them, Okay, 510 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. We're gonna do this, Like if 511 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: they say this, like my thing is always being prepared. 512 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm like that was, like I knew 513 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: most days ain't nothing I could do with Randy Moss anyway, Right, 514 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: But if I prepare enough, there may be that one 515 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: play I can anticipate. There may be the one hit 516 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I can make that changed the game. I'm not gonna 517 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: change it constantly. I'm not gonna do what he does 518 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: because I wasn't that blessed talent wise, you know what 519 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean. I think now when you switch up and 520 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: you get into this, like that's the other thing is people. 521 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to not say this like a bad way, 522 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: but there aren't a lot of guys who were superstars 523 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: who end up being good at this part of right, right, 524 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: because there is so much work in it and there 525 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: is like there's some shit you gotta shovel sometimes, right, 526 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: Like like you gotta be able to deal with some 527 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: things where you aren't the superstar. You know, like when 528 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: you walk out there with stephen A. Stephen A, that's 529 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: his world, right, you know what I'm saying, Like they 530 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna cater to him more than they gonna cater to me, right, 531 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: So you got to figure out how I'm gonna work 532 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: and how I'm gonna get to a point though, to 533 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: where that flips like my thing was like like just 534 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: like in ball, my thing is now on TV. Is 535 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: like even though y'all my dogs and I'm working with y'all, 536 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: when I'm finished, I want people to be like one 537 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: of them things is not the same and it's him different. 538 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 539 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 7: And also too, I think what makes you guys work 540 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 7: and us work is being a star in your role. 541 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 7: So whatever that role is like, and I say with 542 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 7: all respect, like I'm the quarterback on our team. And Jack, 543 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 7: Jack was the one that told me that, like, hey, 544 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 7: you're in charge when you cause I do the business side. 545 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 9: When you're in the meetings, I know I'm in the mood. 546 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 9: I'm in the room with you. 547 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 7: So when you got people you love and trust and 548 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 7: you can fall into your role. I remember one of 549 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 7: the things that Doc Rivers told me what the Clippers was. 550 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 7: You know, we got Blake Griffin, we got Chris Paul. 551 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 7: Those are superstars. Everyone else can still be a star 552 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 7: in their role. And when you buy into what your 553 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 7: role is, you can do whatever you want and be prosperous. 554 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 7: And and and one thing too is when you're in 555 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 7: your own lane. There's never traffic. Like we all feel. 556 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 7: There's a ton of podcasts out here right now, but 557 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 7: I don't feel like none of us are in competition 558 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 7: with me and Stack because we bring a different dynamic. 559 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 7: And on the flip side, there's a ton of podcasts 560 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 7: in their space, and I don't feel like none of 561 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: them are in a competition with the Pivot because they 562 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 7: move a certain way and do different shit. Yeah we 563 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 7: might be similar because we have the same past, but 564 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 7: we move way different now. So being a star in 565 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 7: your role and that's not just in that's in life, 566 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 7: in business, in your family, in your home, there's just 567 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 7: fine what that role is. And although you could you 568 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 7: can possibly wear multiple hats, master what that role is 569 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 7: and then you can branch out and do some other things. 570 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: I know you're about to take it. But the one 571 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: thing you said, though, that's powerful is that he told 572 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: you that. Yeah, right, it's it's different, like you could 573 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: feel it. But if he feels it too, like that's 574 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: the synergy. 575 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: It's funny, I call it. It's what we do. 576 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: We do that. 577 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: He'll be like, r C. You're gonna start it. You 578 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: you're an orator, you speak beautifully, and you say every 579 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: fucking letter in all your words started out, Freddy, you're 580 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: gonna give people flowers like we literally like as y'all 581 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: see the shows, y'all y'all see, and y'all y'all get 582 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: the uncle vibe, you get you know what I'm saying, Like, 583 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: we get the vibe and people don't hit us a lot. 584 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: But as y'all talk, we'll talk and be like and 585 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: even r C afreda throw me stuff and be like chaying, 586 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: it's some wild ship something I didn't even see with 587 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: my research, and they'd be like, yeah, like, hey, it. 588 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: Was Bobby Swerder. And I had read that the little chick. 589 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 4: That the man made his penis bleeding. 590 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: I said. I. 591 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 4: It was like, RC, that's not your place like that. 592 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: I gave it to y'all, said, he. 593 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: Said, r C. 594 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: He showed me the story and I read in the 595 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: car and I was like, I got you. 596 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can ask I can ask him with that country. 597 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: Damn what happened with that? 598 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: Arm said? 599 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 4: I knew the story already, but I could do that. 600 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: She said, somehow see your little man, and now we're 601 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 4: gonna get the story. 602 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: And that's what we like. We throw it off each other. 603 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: Even though I see something with fred and I'm like, 604 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: fred this, dude, this this, this, this, this this charity 605 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: wise yep, Like nobody looks at me to tell you 606 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: about no charities, Like what the fuck are you talking about? 607 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: You help us? I'd be like Freddy, this dude. Game 608 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: seventy five thousand last in this week. So we we 609 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: like and you say the point guard, but we got 610 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: three and y'all got two. But we we really do 611 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 2: the same thing. But it's really winning. It's all about winning. 612 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: It's all about the come and goal, and everybody wants 613 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: to win. 614 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think what's good too, is like you said, 615 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 7: when you know your role in your space, I feel 616 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 7: like we can all ask the same questions to you 617 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 7: get five different answers because of the way we frame it, 618 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 7: or the because of the way he can relate to 619 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 7: giving back, and he can throw some shit in there 620 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 7: that we may not know. 621 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 9: Or when you're talking about little Dick's bleeding, you might 622 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 9: be able to. 623 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 7: Throw some stuff in there that bit I want to 624 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 7: talk about you I'm talking about so I don't know 625 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: nothing about that, but I'm just saying no. I say 626 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 7: all that to say It's just like when you when 627 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 7: you know your lane, relate and you can put a 628 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 7: little bit more personality and and and personal experience behind 629 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 7: the question and get more out of the person because 630 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 7: you are We're coming from the right angles with the questions. 631 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: Stack for you, right. Like what I love about y'all 632 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: shows when is where people sit down with y'all, you 633 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: see a different side of right And I think part 634 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: of it is being able to relate through the player vibe. 635 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 1: But the other part is like, hey, man, like I 636 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: know you are a real one for you, how do 637 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: you use that though to draw people in but then 638 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: get them to open up to you about things they 639 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: don't do with other people. 640 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 6: I think for us, as everything we've been through in 641 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 6: our life has been in the media, I've been on 642 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 6: out and open. We why emotions on our sleeve, and 643 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 6: I think we want that. 644 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: We want to come off as super vulnerable. 645 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 6: We want to come off as as not knowing everything 646 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 6: because a lot of times, when I guess come on, 647 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 6: we learning from our guests, We learning who they are 648 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 6: at the same time. But a lot of times the 649 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 6: way to soften up your guests by to wake them 650 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 6: make them be more comfortable with you. It is about 651 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 6: telling your own experience so you know that they can 652 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 6: relate to you. 653 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: Right. 654 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 6: So I think a lot of times with me and Matt, 655 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 6: like even with the brawl you talk about, the driving, 656 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 6: with the Derek Fisher stuff, everything we've been through, but 657 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 6: even with me calling off my wedding, you know, the 658 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 6: George Floyd stuff, like a lot most of our life 659 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 6: has been out there for everybody to see, and we 660 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 6: embrace it. We don't run from it. We embrace it 661 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: because that's who made us. So we've learned how to 662 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 6: make love to the bad times just like we make 663 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 6: love to the good times, right, and that's what keeps 664 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 6: us going. 665 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: And when people see that, I think we more relatable 666 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: that way. 667 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 7: And I also think to creating a safe space. You know, 668 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 7: all of us have been through the bullshit, the way 669 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 7: the media could twist your words or you say something 670 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 7: that we use this much and put the rest of 671 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 7: bullshit on it. So we've created a space where everybody 672 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 7: knows through. 673 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 9: Who we are and what we're about. That we're not 674 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 9: trying to get trick you into saying no dumb shit. 675 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 7: We're not trying to get We're trying to go viral 676 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 7: because we had a deep conversation. 677 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 9: We're not trying to go viral for you trying to 678 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 9: say dumb shit. 679 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 7: And also do be able to create an environment where 680 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 7: they feel comfortable. And you know, with our environment, when 681 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 7: you come on All the Smoke set, we got music playing, 682 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 7: We got food. If you choose to indulge in cannabis, 683 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 7: we got plenty of that for you. If you choose 684 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 7: if you want some wine or some alcohol, we got that. 685 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 9: So we want to kick it and talk before the 686 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 9: show starts. 687 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 7: So when you get on set, Like my whole idea 688 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 7: when I came up with All the Smoker is everyone 689 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 7: can relate. I feel like, ladies, wherever your best conversation 690 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 7: are the nail shop or wherever the man cave is 691 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 7: where we have our best conversations, and I wanted to 692 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 7: put a. 693 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 9: Camera on that. 694 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 7: You know, no matter who you are, the best conversation 695 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 7: or kicking back watching the game, So how do you 696 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 7: capture that and package it up and put it on TV? 697 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 7: So that's what we felt like we've been able to 698 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 7: do is just create an authentic environment where we can 699 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 7: humanize our guests, like you know, rest in peace. 700 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 9: We keep saying his name. You know why. 701 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 7: Kobe was great hooping, but you didn't know like Kobe 702 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 7: told us, like I don't want no one to remember 703 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 7: me from my first twenty years. I'm like, mother fucker, 704 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 7: You're Kobe Bryant, five time champion, one of the greatest 705 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 7: players ever. He's like, no, bro, this next twenty years 706 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 7: in business, you know what I mean. So it's just 707 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 7: the opportunity to give people that safe space where. 708 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 9: They can come and find out and really tell people. 709 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 7: I think my favorite thing on our show is when 710 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 7: we talk to whoever man I've never told nobody this. 711 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 7: I love that, and we like, hell yeah, because they 712 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 7: feel comfortable enough to share their authentic feelings that we know. 713 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 7: On the flip side, that's what you guys really want 714 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 7: to hear, is the real shit from these some of 715 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 7: your favorite people. 716 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 8: But even with that, Matt, he stat be careful saying 717 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 8: love around this boy. 718 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 5: He can get Lucy crazy as hell. 719 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: But I said bad love, good love. You just able 720 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: to make love. You said bad love, good love. 721 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: You just making love. 722 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 6: I'm able to make love to the bad times. 723 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: Yes, just just be careful, be careful. 724 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 5: You never know what takes. 725 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 8: We take details up right, what jumped out and Matt, 726 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 8: when you were speaking, what jumped out was you said 727 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 8: safe space, environment and media, and immediately in my mind 728 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 8: jumped out being minority owned. You know, that's pretty important 729 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 8: where you can talk to your ship and pretty much 730 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 8: direct the conversations to where the culture can get it 731 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 8: and they can understand. 732 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 5: How important is that to you guys? 733 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 6: Well, I mean for me, that's my whole reason for 734 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 6: being right, That's why people love me because I'm hood, 735 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 6: because I've never changed because from basketball and all the 736 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 6: smoke I've been Stephen Jackson that's all right, and me 737 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 6: being my authentic self, me saying things that most people 738 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 6: won't say, me jumping in front of things that might 739 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 6: not benefit me, but me just having a big heart. 740 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: All those things make me who I am. So I 741 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: think the way we. 742 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 6: Talk and and and and being honest with ourselves, people 743 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 6: want that like they want that. But at the same time, 744 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 6: if if me saying that I'm a silent person, if 745 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 6: me saying that there's nothing in my in my closet 746 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 6: that you can bring out today to say I embarrass myself, 747 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 6: do I did anything? And and I stand on that, 748 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 6: then I have to speak that I have to live that. 749 00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: I can't. 750 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 6: I can't just be living one way and to come 751 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 6: on the show and be a whole different person, because that's. 752 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 4: Not what our culture is. 753 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 6: Right If our coach has been watered down and been 754 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 6: shown one way for so long, that's why we always 755 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 6: looking at TV like, that's not us, that's not our culture. 756 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 6: But now we're controlling our own narrative. Now we've shown 757 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 6: up in sweats suit's dress how we're supposed to show up, right. 758 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 6: So that's why I think that that's why we went 759 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 6: in and that's why we got to be ourselves, because 760 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 6: we can be successful and when looking like us, it's 761 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 6: no dress code, it's no playbook. We create our own 762 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 6: playbook and that's what we show on the world. 763 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 9: And I think too. 764 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 7: On the flip side, for someone like me and Ryan, 765 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 7: we can talk that side, but we can also put 766 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 7: a student time and go on to ESPN and talk 767 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 7: that other shit toack, you know what I mean, and 768 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 7: be able to give you that Disney side of a 769 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 7: real take, because obviously, like said Ryan, said Ryan, they 770 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 7: were holding him out back in the Kapernick did because 771 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 7: he was too real for the platform he was on 772 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 7: at that time. But on the flip side, if he 773 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 7: would have had his pod at that time, he would 774 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 7: have came and really kind of gave you that. So 775 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 7: the versatility, we're all very versatile and we can all speak, 776 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 7: you know, to different topics. 777 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: Did y'all y'all see this motherfucker that drug me on 778 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: inside the NFL? He said, what you drugged me on 779 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 2: inside the NFL? 780 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 4: You know, he didn't drag me. 781 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: The opportunity was there because Ryan did what he did, 782 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: and now I gotta wear a suit and now I 783 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: gotta do it right. I have no problem with that 784 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: because I can switch over now. And that's what I think. 785 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: Just the teaching part of this is that being able 786 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: to be that's not your platform, but this is your platform, 787 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: so you can do what you want here. People saw 788 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: me here so long for three years, almost four years, 789 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: and then now I jump on inside the NFL, and 790 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: I'm getting tweets and text like, bro, you ain't cussing, Bro, 791 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: you ain't doing this. 792 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not allowed to cuss. 793 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: But I am multi facetted to where I can be 794 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: like y'all too. Y'all never had gave me the opportunity 795 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: because I'm a college dropout and I talked. 796 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 8: Crazy all what you just say, you are what, I'm 797 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 8: multi faceted, multi fast somebody. 798 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 4: I'm trying to teach this other light skinned brother some 799 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 4: big words. 800 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this that I'm gonna thought that way. 801 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 8: Somebody say they made you, but I digress and it 802 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 8: wasn't our sea. 803 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 5: You're amazing, brother. I just want to say you are amazing. 804 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 5: You will tell you. 805 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 806 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: I don't want him to get mad. 807 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 11: That's a whole different thing. 808 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 8: But you know that's that's just in this conversation and 809 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 8: what we're here for. You talk about being able to 810 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 8: he's missed the tech mister TikTok that's what the kids call. 811 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 8: And we're walking to the airport. That's the TikTok guy, 812 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 8: and he's. 813 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: Going to any of us. 814 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 5: To me, he always goes M. 815 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 8: But that's the beauty of technology. Just taking it back there, 816 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 8: like everybody got this device in their hands so they 817 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 8: can see this guy. We laying together, We fly together. 818 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 8: They running channing first. 819 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: Our c's on. 820 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 8: ESPN almost every day on inside the NFL Tuesday nights, 821 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 8: and but everybody runs the channing because. 822 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 2: The most attractive one on the stage is me right now. 823 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 9: Second, but go ahead, well. 824 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: You know the other the other thing is too And 825 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: I think I always make the confidence. I always take 826 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: the conversation from fun. I know, I'm sorry, that's all 827 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: I think. But Matt brings up a point that brings 828 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: me to something else. You take what what I dealt 829 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: with this week. Right, So I'm on TV and I 830 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: got my suit on and were talking football, and nothing 831 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: in football brings me to anything that is about our culture. 832 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm not asking those questions they want me to talk. 833 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: They're asking me about the games. This is whatever it is. 834 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: But on our platform, I addressed Brady Quinn attacking Deshaun 835 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: Watson's character, Brady Quinn making the joke the first time, 836 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: even not his first time, but I say that. And 837 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: then you have people like Marcellus Wiley, right, and he 838 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 1: comes out and what he says about me is because 839 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: he's he's pandering to his crowd. Well, I know he 840 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: doesn't talk about this as much on ESPN, but on 841 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: his own platform, you can see that he doesn't like 842 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: white people. Right, That's what he said. And then I 843 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: was like, well, first off, I just say anything about that. 844 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 9: I said. 845 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: What I'm doing is I said, if I feel like 846 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: there is something that affects our culture on my platform 847 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: that I own, I will talk about it. I will 848 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: address it. And if it's asked of me on their platform, 849 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the exact same thing, and they're gonna 850 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: have to figure out do they want me to address 851 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: it on theirs? Right, it's not about like to me, 852 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: it's not about the importance. Isn't about being able to 853 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: switch up and do both because I could be one 854 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: hundred sit hours. All five of us can do that. 855 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: You can sit around and talk about every motion and 856 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: every movement on an office in basketball court, right, you 857 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: can sit around and tell them, okay, gonna play the 858 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: man and man like this, or if we're gonna drop 859 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: his zone. You could do that if that's what you 860 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: wanted to do. Fred could do the same thing, like 861 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: we could do those things. You don't switch in any 862 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: way to do that is that we don't control what's 863 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: talked about on those We control this. I own this. 864 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: You're not gonna tell me what I'm gonna talk about here, 865 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: because what I'm gonna talk about here is gonna affect 866 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: us right, and I don't think. I think what's what's 867 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: happened culturally is they feel like if I'm for us, 868 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: I gotta be against them, and that's not the truth. 869 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 6: It's a way to be black and proud without the 870 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 6: meaning another race. 871 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of people don't get. That's 872 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 3: what a lot of people get. 873 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 6: I tell stories all the time about people from other 874 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 6: races who I know love me more than some people 875 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,959 Speaker 6: my own color, and they've showed it in real time. 876 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 3: So I don't I don't get caught up in that. 877 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 6: I don't get caught up in that because, just like 878 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 6: it said, people want you to say certain things, but 879 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 6: if you affect it by they not come and say so. 880 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 6: The best thing is is do best for you and 881 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 6: worry about the people that's around your immediate family and 882 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 6: the people that care about you, the people that you support, 883 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 6: the people that rely on you. A lot of people, 884 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 6: when they have opinions, they don't have nothing, nobody depending 885 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 6: on them, you know what I'm saying. They don't have 886 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 6: no responsibilities, and it's easy to say things to the 887 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 6: meaning next person when you don't have nothing going on. 888 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 7: How do you guys handle the response talking to the 889 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 7: Pivot crew. The responsibility of known that you guys are 890 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 7: trusted in the community and they lean on your words 891 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 7: and live by your words, and they're motivated by your 892 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 7: words and encouraged by your words. 893 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 9: Like, how do you handle that's a responsibility. 894 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 7: It's something that happened with Jack too when he was 895 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 7: going through the George floydschit. I'm like, it's one thing 896 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 7: being a leader on the basketball court, but now the world. 897 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 9: Is looking at you. You let the biggest protests. 898 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: In the history. 899 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 7: You know, your whole United States was sixteen countries eighteen, 900 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 7: like eighteen countries. That's a whole other responsibility when people 901 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 7: are looking to you for life, not just sports. 902 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 9: So how do you guys handle that responsibility? 903 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 8: Just being yourself? You gotta be authentic self. I think 904 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 8: we said it earlier. 905 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 3: You know. 906 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 8: I always go back to something I say all the time. 907 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 8: Exposure leads to expansion, you know, and you just speak 908 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,959 Speaker 8: to your experiences in life. You can't be phony. They'll 909 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 8: see through that, you know. Every time I see you, 910 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 8: Jack stat you like you speak from the heart. 911 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 912 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 8: No matter what, you'll get on your ig, get on 913 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 8: your life and you just speak from the heart. You 914 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 8: show love, you get love, you get hate, but you 915 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 8: always have know how to go back and pivot and 916 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 8: communicate to that. But you stand firm, and I think 917 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 8: once you do that, people will say, all right, this 918 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 8: dude's solid. You know what I'm saying. I can't see 919 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 8: through him. Ain't no bs that come with him, So 920 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 8: I'm gonna rock with him. So I think the pivot 921 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 8: has done a good job back. They know what RC 922 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 8: brings to the table. You know what I'm saying. For 923 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 8: everybody that try to say, oh, ESPN has you doing 924 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 8: this way? 925 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 4: Nah, RC has a way to leverage that. 926 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 8: But he speaks COmON sense. And the same with Channing. 927 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 8: They know Tenning gonna always be Tanning and speak from 928 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 8: the heart. And myself, I'm very observant and I'm calculated 929 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 8: and I see how things is going, but I'm always 930 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 8: give you me at the very end of the day. 931 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 8: So for us, it's simple, and that's the very reason 932 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 8: we love our platform because we get to do that. 933 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 8: We own our platform, We get to do that and 934 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 8: nobody else can dictateor tell us. 935 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: What to do. 936 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 8: We control post editing. You know what I'm saying, so 937 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 8: this month's Alisha. What she does is beautiful and she 938 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 8: on the same shit we on. 939 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: I think the one thing I think, and we all 940 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 2: said it like be yourself. You can't. 941 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 4: You can't paint nothing. 942 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 2: You can't paint no pictures like you're saying, I think 943 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: we grew up that way. Like I think it's in you. 944 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 5: We can do that. 945 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: But the one thing I think that we do, and 946 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: I've seen that people try to do. I don't know 947 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: if y'all seen it, is that people try to tell 948 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: you about him and him about you. 949 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't do that. 950 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 4: Hey, what does stat saying? Hey, when Matt said this? 951 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: What you think? 952 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 3: Bro? 953 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: We've mentioned so many things when people come up to 954 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 2: me and be like, hey, man, Ryan did this, and 955 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 2: I'd be like, I got Ryan here every time, here, 956 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: every time, I'm like and. 957 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 4: They're like, but what do you think about? 958 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: What you feel about it? 959 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 6: Sad? 960 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want right now, I'm gonna 961 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 2: take his side here, I'm gonna take I'm gonna take 962 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: Freddy's side. 963 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 6: That's the That's the quickest way for me to know 964 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 6: I need I don't need to be around you because 965 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 6: I'm not going against him for. 966 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: Nobody, and that I think that's it's funny that y'all 967 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: have that, because we've talked about it before. Where that 968 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: we have that where I can I almost say I 969 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 2: don't agree with either of them, But if you ask 970 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: me about him, there's no way I'm even leaning. 971 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: Your way, I said. I tell him all the time, 972 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm with you when you're right, and I'm with you 973 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,479 Speaker 1: when you're wrong in public. 974 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 7: But I'm gonna tell you when you're wrong, though I 975 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 7: have to say off to the side, and I think 976 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 7: too not to cut you off right because Jack is 977 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 7: again you you guys can see, he's emotional, he's real. 978 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 9: Words is hard on the sleeve. 979 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 7: But sometimes he wants to do and say stuff that 980 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 7: is real from the heart. 981 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 9: But also could be affect our platform. 982 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 7: So he'll be like, bro, what you think about me 983 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 7: saying this? 984 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 3: I love it because I know I can hurt us. 985 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 7: I think I think there's a place for it, but 986 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 7: maybe not right now, you know what I mean, or 987 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 7: maybe not this way you know what I mean, and 988 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 7: vice versa. 989 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 9: So I think too to be able. 990 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 6: To taking that, okay, right, you know what I'm saying, 991 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 6: I put it no. 992 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 4: Pride in that we just did. It was the tour thing. 993 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: Ye, well, he said too, it looked like a stripper 994 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: from what he say to it like a stripper from 995 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: and I took it as you disrespected strippers. But what 996 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: I say ain't no mention. 997 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 4: That looked like he said something. And when it flew 998 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 4: up we got only Oh. I was like, I was like, bro, 999 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 1000 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: People kidding me because I live at the Median MINDI like, bro, 1001 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: I got you. But that was too far And he 1002 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: was like, bro, I'm gonna figure it out. And then 1003 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 2: he called me and I don't want to tell exactly 1004 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. All the backworks out. 1005 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 7: He was like, yeah, bro, well because everyone can't say 1006 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 7: that to him, but he loves and respect you until 1007 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 7: he's gonna listen to you. 1008 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: It was a a bunch of the conversations that we 1009 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 2: have to have with it. 1010 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 4: But that's but it's really the respect of it. 1011 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: You know why he could be like that because we 1012 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: had to start with him on. 1013 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 8: The flip side the same room from this that coming. 1014 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: About that, man, you know what, I throssed my legros 1015 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 2: my leg, my knees I'm about to go in. 1016 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: You know, he'd have had an HR to for the pivot, 1017 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: so HR anything, I get it. I get it that 1018 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: he didn't had an HR. The thing to man that 1019 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: like I love about these two is like they didn't 1020 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: change with the responsibility. I think that's the hardest part, right, 1021 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: I think you know, the way that you continue to 1022 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: nurture the relationship is the same way you earned it, right, 1023 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know how it is, man Like, if 1024 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: y'all became friends because of a certain thing and he 1025 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: switched that up, that's gonna affect your friendship lit bit, right, 1026 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 1: that's gonna affect your relationship. And don't get me wrong. 1027 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, like we had Michael Beasley and we didn't 1028 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: We didn't expect that, right, it just happened. And in 1029 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: the moment when it happened, that's when the pivot became 1030 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: the pivot. But then we all of a sudden, we 1031 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: did all of a sudden become for the people. And 1032 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: so now, don't get me wrong, like anytime we're thinking 1033 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: about expanding the brand reaching you know, other audiences, people 1034 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: look at us funny because it's like you for us 1035 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: right now, you've gone and done that and there isn't 1036 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: that sort of grace of like, but we do understand 1037 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: that there are other stories that are important. There are 1038 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: the things, and we're gonna always be rooted and that's 1039 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna be our foundation. But y'all grabbed us in five shows. 1040 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: We didn't know what the hell we was, you know 1041 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? And so like that's the things that 1042 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: you just continue to do, man, and like like this 1043 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: for us, we obviously just wanted to do a show 1044 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: with y'all period, At some point get an opportunity to 1045 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: sit with y'all. But I do think it's a testament 1046 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: that it happens this way that platform about to say 1047 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: a platform like Draft King says, we respect you, we 1048 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: respect them, you know. 1049 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 5: What I mean. 1050 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: Let's let's that's muse. 1051 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 7: But that's huge, that's huge, you know, for again for 1052 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 7: these big corporations to come to us to get the 1053 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 7: message across, you know what I mean. And again it's 1054 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 7: a testament to what we've shown and how authentic and 1055 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 7: real we've been and the way we've been able to 1056 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 7: utilize our platforms and expand from that and then like 1057 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 7: you said, not being able to put us in the box. 1058 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 7: We took a ton of ship because we did will 1059 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 7: Will Smith's first interview after he slapped Chris that's not. 1060 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 9: Your space, that's not your space and. 1061 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: Can you get my guy back on and just ask 1062 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 1: them how you doing? Can you doing wellness? 1063 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 5: Check well? 1064 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 9: Because we did Jada after that. 1065 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 7: We did Jada before she dropped her book, and I 1066 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 7: never seen someone someone gets someone. 1067 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 9: It was it was bad, you know what I mean. 1068 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 9: But I say all this like me because Jaya. 1069 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 4: I was looking at data like Jason's lyrics like. 1070 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 8: Dun Tail. 1071 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: Always look. 1072 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 9: The lift, but it was mutual energy. I was in 1073 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 9: the middle, but the energy was flowing like this, and 1074 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 9: I felt. 1075 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: It some ways. 1076 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 9: I felt it, you know. 1077 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 7: But I say all that to say is like obviously, 1078 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 7: you know we came up in a certain way, and yeah, 1079 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 7: we speak for this, but at the same time, you 1080 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 7: can't put us in the box anymore because we can 1081 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 7: step outside it and speak to other things and other lanes. 1082 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 9: It's about our culture as well. 1083 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: I know we're taking up a lot of times, but 1084 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: we wanted to open it up for questions. If anybody 1085 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: has the questions, I don't know how we're supposed to. 1086 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: Are they gonna walk up to that microphone. 1087 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 12: I had a quick question for you. How do you 1088 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 12: all think about going into corporate partnerships? Are there different 1089 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 12: metrics or different things that going you all and a 1090 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 12: checklist on partner with this brand, don't partner with this brand. 1091 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 12: This brand isn't aligned with our brand. This brain is 1092 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 12: in the line. Just talk to me about how y'all go. 1093 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,439 Speaker 7: I think what you said at the end is we've 1094 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 7: all fortunate enough now to think about it to turn 1095 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 7: down deals that don't align with what we believe in, 1096 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 7: what we represent, regardless of the money. Because again, like 1097 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 7: I said, for us to be real and authentic and 1098 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 7: then align ourselves with a brand that contradicts ourselves, no 1099 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 7: matter what the money is, we're gonna take that hitting. 1100 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 9: It's not worth it. 1101 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 7: So I think I know when I speak for Jack 1102 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 7: and and all the smoke, when we align with the brand. 1103 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 7: As funny as it may be, if we have to 1104 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 7: talk about manscape and shaving ourselves like it's shit that 1105 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 7: we fuck with, you know what I mean, it's brands 1106 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 7: that we can align it and really use. So I 1107 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 7: throw the money out the window, and do I really 1108 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 7: align with the qualities of what this brand represents. 1109 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: That's the answer, ferial. 1110 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 2: And if they want to control your content on how 1111 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 2: you do yeah, you can't say no, you can't. 1112 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 9: Can't do it, you can't do it, We're gone. 1113 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 6: You want to cut it. 1114 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 8: But it goes back to the quality of what you 1115 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 8: put out. You know, we look at what we put 1116 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 8: out and we've heard from a lot of people that 1117 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 8: we got top notch production right and at Lasha, she's 1118 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 8: won thirteen Emmys and she always comes back. She always 1119 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 8: if you got to put this here, she if you 1120 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 8: got to put this here and this here, and it 1121 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 8: takes away from the quality riper. So we looked at deals, 1122 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 8: well we've turned down, especially in the first couple of months. 1123 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 5: We were turning. 1124 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 8: Down six figures early on and looking at each other 1125 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 8: like what we just do, but were like, fuck it, 1126 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 8: let's do it, and let's better on ourselves at least the. 1127 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 5: Quality of our content. 1128 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 8: It'll grow and then we'll be able to get it 1129 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 8: on the back end. 1130 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 7: So an you turned down that six figures for that 1131 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 7: eight or nine figure down the road because you're staying 1132 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 7: true and all believe it. 1133 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: And also to the other thing like when when you 1134 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: listen to people answer questions like you got to have 1135 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: their backstory as well, Like we didn't get into this 1136 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: part of our careers broke right, Like like we aren't. 1137 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: We aren't trying to take care of our families off 1138 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: of the first offer, right, we could play the longer 1139 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: game because we had ourselves set up in a different way, right, 1140 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: Like you can only you can only turn down what 1141 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: you can afford to turn down. You know what I'm saying, 1142 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 1: Like if it's gonna nobody. 1143 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 2: On this stage is worried about what they eating Wednesday night. Yeah, 1144 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 2: And that's the difference. So as we speak, like you 1145 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, we can approach things differently because 1146 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 2: we're building a brand after we've already had a brand. 1147 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm trying to speak. A lot of 1148 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,240 Speaker 2: young podcasts come to me and they asked me similar questions, 1149 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you have to see what fred Freddy. 1150 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 4: RC and myself where we were when we started. 1151 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 2: So like yeah, hey, honey, thousand and it's a lot 1152 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,959 Speaker 2: of money, but it's like you know what I'm saying, 1153 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 2: we can look further, we can look beyond, but it's 1154 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 2: there's different tiers where you live and there's different areas 1155 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 2: where people are trying. 1156 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 4: To grow, and we we had we had a. 1157 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 2: Head start, I guess with what we did and where 1158 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: where we where we came from. 1159 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 8: Appreciate one last thing really quick. We didn't get into 1160 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 8: it thinking about We didn't get into it thinking about 1161 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 8: the money. Seriously, we got into it. We didn't know 1162 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 8: exactly how much money. 1163 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 9: Could be made. 1164 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 8: We just got into it and we we kept going. 1165 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 8: Channing and I we we were trying to prove a 1166 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 8: point and we had to pivot. And that's where the 1167 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 8: pivot comes from. And we couldn't have got a perfect 1168 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 8: more perfect. 1169 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 2: There we go. That's it. 1170 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 4: That's it. 1171 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 2: Next, so it was good ship, that's carried away. 1172 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,919 Speaker 4: Look, that's it. 1173 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 13: That's yeah, what's up with it? Both you guys? Podcasts 1174 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,439 Speaker 13: are rocket ships right now? What's the what's the goal 1175 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 13: for you guys? Where do you guys want to see 1176 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 13: this kind of end up and not even just end up. 1177 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 13: Where do you guys want to see it go in 1178 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 13: the coming years to come? 1179 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: That's a oh, that's a great question. I can be honest. 1180 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: When they called me, When chan called me and we 1181 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: FaceTime for an hour and a half, I didn't know 1182 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: where it was going to be honest, like, I thought 1183 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,919 Speaker 1: it'd be a dope opportunity. I think for me, it's 1184 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: about creating something that has a legacy, you know, because 1185 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna if you do really well, you're gonna make money. 1186 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 3: Right. 1187 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: If you do really well, we might get to a 1188 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 1: point to where we could sell it if we feel 1189 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: like selling it at that point makes the most sense 1190 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: for us. But in owning my own platform, I want 1191 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: this to like I come from a sports background, right, Like, 1192 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: the same way he talks about Kobe, That's how I 1193 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: want people to talk about us, right. I want people 1194 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: to say when something else is made, when three other 1195 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: young brothers or three young young other young podcasters make 1196 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: a pot and they start taking off, I want people 1197 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: to be like, man, this is this reminds me of 1198 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: the Pivot, right, Like, like you could tell that they watched, 1199 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: Like that's what it is. That's what it's about for me, man, 1200 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: Like I want to create the dopest content. I want 1201 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: to have the best space. But I want people and 1202 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure they do too, like and I could be honest, like, 1203 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 1: I look at what they do because because they were 1204 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: in it before I got in it right, Like, I 1205 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: look at what they do. Okay, this is how they 1206 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: set it up, Like this is how people get comfortable. 1207 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: These are the stories they tell, right, Because I gotta 1208 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: look at that to say, this is what people gravitate to. Now, 1209 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: how does Ryan Clark put his spin on that? And 1210 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: like at the end of it, I want people to 1211 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: be like, man, this is the dopest thing we ever saw. 1212 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: And it continued to evolve and like everything has a 1213 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: shelf life, Like at some point it's gonna be some 1214 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 1: other group of people they want to hear more than us, 1215 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: but at two of them. Man, I want to always 1216 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: be doing this. I never want to be here because 1217 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: once we get here, we die quickly. 1218 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 2: And this is a very I guess it's a hippieist 1219 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 2: approach to things. I've been saying. What's my saying? Everything 1220 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 2: always gonna work out? When we started and we ain't 1221 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 2: making no money, and we grinding, and we in Vegas 1222 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 2: for a week and we're going to we're going to 1223 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 2: them little bullshit little young boy basketball games, and were 1224 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: going to clubs and like we walking up to people 1225 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 2: and being like, hey, bro, you wanna jump in the 1226 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 2: pod And we're like grinding to do it and things 1227 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 2: will go down and somebody will canceled on us. 1228 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 4: And things that happened. 1229 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 2: And I said to everybody, like, listen, everything always works 1230 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: out how it's supposed to. And I told them that 1231 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 2: for years. So my thing, that's your question. I don't 1232 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 2: know where it's going, but I know we have something 1233 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 2: special and it's gonna be exactly where God wants it 1234 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 2: to be in six months, twelve months, eighteen months. And 1235 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: I really honestly have my wife's over here, my attorneys 1236 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,280 Speaker 2: at like they know I feel that way. Like everything 1237 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 2: happens exactly the fucking way it's supposed to happen. 1238 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 4: Just work real hard. 1239 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 2: And I've been saying that for years, and that's my thing, 1240 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 2: and I know it's hippous and. 1241 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: It's annoying as hell in the moment when you're trying 1242 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: to get him to do something. 1243 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 4: Though, where where yet, bron God damn we in the cup. 1244 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: Everything gonna work out with me. I'll be down there 1245 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 2: by twenty. 1246 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate it for real, y'all. Uh. 1247 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 14: First off, y'all, voices are so important, Like you give 1248 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 14: man the ability to share their feelings and be open 1249 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 14: about it, and I appreciate that legitimate. 1250 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 1251 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 14: Have any of you thought about loaning your voices to 1252 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 14: ownership in your respective sports, like we would love to 1253 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 14: see more black men in these rooms making these decisions 1254 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 14: and helping these teams out. Like have any of y'all 1255 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 14: thought about joining ownership ranks? 1256 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: I for sure have, Like that's you know, I have. 1257 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: I have this ten urre plan, which is why this 1258 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: is gonna have to end at some point. You know, 1259 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: first of all, I want to be a general manager 1260 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: though right, Like I want to I want to make decisions. 1261 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: I want to be in a position to control who 1262 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 1: gets what opportunities. And I think so many times we 1263 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 1: look at the top opportunity, right, and we're saying that 1264 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: we don't have head coach, or like you said, we 1265 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: don't have ownership and all of those things. A lot 1266 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 1: of the reasons we don't have those things is because 1267 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: we also don't get the entry level opportunities as well. Right, 1268 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: Those go to those go to the cousin, right, or 1269 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick's son. Right, Those go to the person 1270 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: that John Gruden can call Mike McCarthy and say, look, 1271 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 1: I can't hire him because they know he's in my family, 1272 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: but won't you put him on for me? 1273 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 3: Right? 1274 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: We don't have people that are looking down the pipeline 1275 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that it's equal opportunity. Na, don't get 1276 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm not just hiring you. I don't I want. 1277 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just put people in position based on 1278 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: how they look. I'm gonna hire the best people. But 1279 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: what I want to do is to be able to 1280 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: develop the best people on an equal playing field. And 1281 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: so like that's definitely for me. Like that's the next 1282 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: step of what I want to do, is get it 1283 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 1: to being an executive, be a general manager, and my 1284 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: final the final thing I want to do, I want 1285 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: to be an athletic director at HBCU. So that's my 1286 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: last job when I'm done working and I'm done grinding, 1287 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: and I want to sit somewhere and be there for 1288 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: a while. It's getting an opportunity to give the game 1289 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: that we learned a lot of times the hard way 1290 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: that young brothers and young sisters feel like it's not 1291 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: worth learning because nobody will teach you. Right, have somebody 1292 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 1: say no, I look like you, but I also understand 1293 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: in order to be what you want to be. You 1294 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: have to navigate the entire world. Right, this little microcosm 1295 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: of the world, isn't the whole thing? 1296 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 2: Tell this whole rest of his whole fucking life. And 1297 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 2: when I get married, I want to get buried in 1298 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 2: New Orleans because my daddy and my grandmama in New Orleans. 1299 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 11: God damn man, we got a whole lot of motherfucker's 1300 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 11: waiting minute. 1301 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 3: I'm not. 1302 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: Every show, every show. 1303 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,479 Speaker 15: So I love one of the things that you said 1304 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 15: about success doesn't have a dress code. I think that 1305 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 15: that's important for everybody in this room to really understand 1306 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 15: and embrace. But what is another key attribute that someone 1307 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 15: who is successful you believe they should have. 1308 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's just confidence. 1309 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, when you wake up 1310 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 6: in the morning, you have everything you need to be great. 1311 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 6: I think that we we have we have poisoned to 1312 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 6: you to have them thinking that they have to go 1313 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 6: to social media to get validation of who they are 1314 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 6: and how great they can be. 1315 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 3: Right, if you wake. 1316 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 6: Up every every day in the morning, look in the 1317 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 6: mirror and believe in yourself and have confident in yourself, 1318 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 6: that's enough, right there. So we I've always been super confident. 1319 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 6: I come from a small town. I used to piss 1320 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 6: in the bed, right, he was like thirteen. I used 1321 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 6: to pis I used to piss in the. 1322 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 7: Bed, games and games games. 1323 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 2: I was, y, don't have no grass. We can piss 1324 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 2: on ourselves and get on the knee and the piss 1325 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 2: run down your leg. 1326 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 4: You just wipe it off the water. 1327 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 9: Huh, it's still on. 1328 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 3: Now. But really, just believing in yourself. 1329 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 6: It's really the first thing that you have to have, 1330 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 6: because if they're not gonna hire somebody that not confident, 1331 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 6: they don't they're not gonna hand nobody that they don't 1332 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 6: believe in that can answer a tough question when they're 1333 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 6: not around, you know what I'm saying, Or somebody who 1334 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 6: can handle the building when it's going down, right, they're 1335 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 6: gonna hind somebody who can supplement that while they're gone. 1336 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 6: So you believing in yourself first and not expecting the 1337 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 6: world are people around you to tell you who you are. 1338 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 3: I think that's the first step to success, and. 1339 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 8: Then I'll pay you back off stack. I think it's 1340 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 8: about the follow through what Kobe said, you gotta finish 1341 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 8: the job. How many of us out here have had 1342 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 8: an idea, we sit on it and we say, all right, 1343 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 8: this is gonna be amazing, and then we don't do 1344 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 8: shit in that day. 1345 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 9: Right, and then man, when else does? 1346 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 5: And then you man when somebody else. 1347 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 8: So it's about it's about to follow through finishing the job. 1348 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 8: So if something jumps in your mind, you gotta go 1349 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 8: through with it. All these so called entrepreneurs, a geniuses 1350 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 8: and creatives, they just went the extra step to finish 1351 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 8: the job. It's a process and once you complete that task, 1352 00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 8: boom you there. 1353 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,919 Speaker 1: It's like Nip said, Man, he just ain't quit. 1354 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 16: He ain't quit, right, all right, Phillis, I got a 1355 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 16: question kind of track of what they're talking about. But 1356 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 16: as a former athlete, have y'all ever thought about interviewing 1357 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 16: or having on y'all show guys that not necessarily made 1358 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 16: it to the league, The guys that you play with, 1359 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 16: your brothers, that play with in college that had the 1360 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 16: transition into corporate America. Because as you know, you guys 1361 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 16: are part of the one percent. But there's another ten 1362 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 16: to twenty percent of us that don't make it to 1363 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 16: the league, get kicked our practice squad or whatever and 1364 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 16: have to find another avenue to go to be successful. 1365 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 16: So have y'all thought about bringing those guys onto the 1366 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 16: show to speak to that that bigger demographic, to give 1367 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 16: those guys hope and the avenue and other avenues to 1368 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 16: find success. 1369 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 5: You shooting your shot. 1370 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying. 1371 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 5: I mean. 1372 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 8: It's about It's about opportunity. That's what the pivot is. 1373 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 8: It's the ultimate pivot. So how at us will say 1374 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 8: we put something that we have? 1375 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 7: So I I was gonna say, we have a show 1376 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 7: that just today a guy named Shae Cotton, who was 1377 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 7: one of the they said the greatest high school basketball 1378 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 7: player ever who did make it. And it's crazy the 1379 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 7: response and the feedback we've been getting from his story 1380 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 7: because to furtherier point, there's ninety nine percent of you 1381 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 7: that don't make it. One percent of college athletes make 1382 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,439 Speaker 7: professional ranks. That means ninety nine percent of athletes don't, 1383 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 7: which is unsane, so worthy anomaly. The norm is the 1384 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 7: people who haven't. So to be able to speak to 1385 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 7: that audience, we feel like it's huge. So we started 1386 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 7: something on All the Smoke called street Legends, just guys 1387 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 7: that hooped who were amazing, that didn't make it but 1388 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 7: still we're aver to make something of themselves, and to me, 1389 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 7: I feel like those stories are more inspirational because they're 1390 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 7: more realistic. 1391 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: I think it's what he said as well. The difficult 1392 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: part I've learned is finding the right story right, Like 1393 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: somebody like Shae Cotton. I'm a big hoop fan, Like 1394 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I know who Shae Cotton is, and so that story 1395 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: excites me, and that's something I want to learn about. 1396 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how it works for y'all. Like for us, 1397 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 1: we've brought on people who we thought were great stories, 1398 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Like we had Myron roll On right, Myron Rolle never 1399 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: became he like he never made an actual game roster, 1400 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: but he was a Rhodes scholar. He was a college 1401 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 1: All American. You know, he's now a brain surgeon. And 1402 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: to us like that was like that's an amazing story. Yeah, 1403 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: you didn't make it in the league, but it doesn't matter, 1404 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Like your calling is so much bigger. You know, he 1405 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: was in all of these different hospitals during COVID and 1406 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: we did get a good response from the people that 1407 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: watched it. 1408 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 4: I've learned that. 1409 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: If people don't feel a connection to a guy, like 1410 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: if you can't build it to make them really want 1411 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: to dive in it. So many people actually missed that message, 1412 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But if we tell you 1413 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: we got the rock on four million of y'all show up, 1414 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that is like that 1415 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: like that is the thing is we'll get well, why 1416 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: don't y'all do this? Oh no, no problem, Like we'll 1417 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: do a mental health show period to talk about mental health. 1418 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 1: We'll bring some on somebody on that that wasn't a 1419 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: popular player, but it's huge in the mental health space. 1420 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 1: And then people don't watch it. And so I think 1421 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 1: you you know, like we're still going to do those things, 1422 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: but if you're going to like want those questions that 1423 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: want those type of the shows we also have to support. 1424 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 17: So y'all talked about being role players when you were 1425 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 17: kind of going into pivoting into your second career. 1426 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 5: I guess were. 1427 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 17: There any other options that you had before you landed 1428 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 17: on the podcast. And then I'm sure, as we all know, 1429 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 17: when you're breaking into a field that doesn't necessarily look 1430 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 17: like we all do, Like, were you nervous that this 1431 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 17: were you ever unsure that this was your lane? 1432 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 6: Well, when when all the Smoker's verson starts. I mean 1433 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 6: was about to start. They wasn't sure on me, to 1434 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 6: be honest. We came up with the idea, like, who 1435 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 6: is Jackson, what is this he gonna beat people up 1436 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 6: every episode? Is he gonna come in here with a 1437 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 6: faudy and some dickies and the pistol? 1438 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 4: Like no, that was like. 1439 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 3: And he did and he did? 1440 01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 6: But nah, So I mean I think for us, we 1441 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,479 Speaker 6: both were we both were doing TV at the time, 1442 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 6: and me and Matt always hang out. We brothers. A 1443 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 6: lot of people don't know. We came close when his 1444 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 6: mom passed from cancer. So that's when we really build 1445 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 6: our relationship. So doing the show what the conversation about 1446 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 6: building the show wasn't really a long conversation. Liked doing 1447 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 6: a show together, of course, we'll do it, you know. 1448 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,439 Speaker 6: But he made this happen. You know, he he knew 1449 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 6: the right people, He called the right people. So I 1450 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 6: believed that everything he was gonna do right. What did 1451 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 6: I know our podcast with view or is that today? 1452 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 9: Know? 1453 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 6: But I believed in it right. I couldn't have told 1454 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 6: you at the time, but in my mind, ye know, 1455 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 6: we gonna make it there, right, So you gotta believe 1456 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 6: in yourself, because if you don't, nobody else will. 1457 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 17: My dude's on the pivot you RC him, I know 1458 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 17: you ESPN broadcast. 1459 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 4: It's seeing. 1460 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 2: Tel just did we know? 1461 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Well I got out. Nobody knew what he was 1462 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 4: gonna do. 1463 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 2: I started to the way like r C and uh, 1464 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 2: you were doing you did a meeting before you retired 1465 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 2: before Yeah, so like some dudes know, they transition. So 1466 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Artcing was doing me before A retired. He was on 1467 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 2: TV Matt and them. Credit just chill all day. Credit 1468 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 2: just chill all fucking day. But no, he he do 1469 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. But no, I didn't know I 1470 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 2: would go podcasts like I'm a are entertaining and mess 1471 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 2: around and play like I do now. And that's why 1472 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 2: I keep like I keep that, I keep that level, 1473 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 2: like I keep that thing because I know what I am. 1474 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 2: I know why people ask me to be on that podcast. 1475 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 2: I know why a thousand people text me every day 1476 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 2: to come on the show because I just talked fun. 1477 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 4: So I didn't know what I was gonna do after football. 1478 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 2: And then once I retired, I was sitting around and 1479 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 2: my wife was like, you going back to play? You're 1480 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 2: going back to play, and I was like, no, I'm not. 1481 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 2: It's like what you're gonna do. So I bought three 1482 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 2: boats and I would go fish all day. I swear 1483 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 2: to god. I had two. I had a bass boat, 1484 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 2: I had a splats boat, and I had a DEPC boat. 1485 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm just fish all day and 1486 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: that shit got boring. So then I went back to 1487 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 2: the radio station and I started doing a couple of 1488 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 2: shows and all. 1489 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 4: But I didn't know I was gonna do the media. 1490 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 2: But then I saw it was good at it, and 1491 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: I just kind of transitioned and kept working. But you 1492 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 2: never know what you're gonna do because I was a 1493 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 2: college dropout, like I left as a sophomore, So like, 1494 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 2: just find your passion and work on it is my 1495 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 2: total is my ultimate message of what I'm saying, because 1496 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 2: I never knew I'd be sitting on stage with these 1497 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 2: four amazing people and talking about podcasting and talk about 1498 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 2: media and all that stuff. 1499 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 4: But it happens. But like they were just saying, just 1500 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 4: grinding work. 1501 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 2: That's a long time, bro. 1502 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 4: Fuck you, Okay, ch I. 1503 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 9: Got a question. 1504 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 7: You keep saying college dropout, but you went to the 1505 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 7: league after your sophomore year. 1506 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I dropped out. 1507 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 9: That's not a dropout. 1508 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 2: Dropout, No, it's not. 1509 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 9: You went to the league. 1510 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 4: I have thirty six credits in Florida. 1511 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 9: Me too, or total two years, thirty six credits. 1512 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 6: I got thirty six in college thirty six times. 1513 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we only have one more. But just they 1514 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 2: put me in chemistry, I said, Man, y'all can kiss 1515 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 2: my if y'all. 1516 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 4: Know how hard chemistry is, I do. 1517 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: I passed it. 1518 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 2: I dropped that three times. I took social dance twice. 1519 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 2: I took bowling twice, and I took golf. Just get 1520 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 2: him on the football field. What I say, think they 1521 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 2: got here, We're gonna do it right for you. 1522 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 15: Go ahead, man, How do you guys stay humble yet 1523 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 15: motivated despite accomplishing so much. 1524 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't think. 1525 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't ever feel like I don't ever feel like 1526 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: it's enough. To be honest, I think, and I think 1527 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: what happens is people focus on success as a destination 1528 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: and don't focus on the work as a journey. Right, 1529 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: So when you look at the process of getting to anything, 1530 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 1: like the progress that you make every day, like those 1531 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 1: are the wins, right, And think about what Matt just said. 1532 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: They started a podcast because the podcast has done so well, 1533 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: because they own it. Now they're moving into a production company. 1534 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna bring people on which you're the same 1535 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: conversation that we've had the same conversations I've had with 1536 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: our producer. Right, Like I'm in making my next deal 1537 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: with ESPN, Like you're gonna have to give me a 1538 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,919 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty, Right, I'm gonna have to produce that. Right, 1539 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to give me an ESPN Plus show series, 1540 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: and like that has to come with what I'm doing. 1541 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 1: But when I started, that wasn't my goal because I 1542 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: couldn't ask for it because I wasn't ready for it. Right, 1543 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 1: But once you work at something and you work to 1544 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: try to master that which you never truse, you work 1545 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: to try to master that. Now it's like, Okay, what's 1546 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 1: the next step that the hard work that got me 1547 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: here affords me? And now because I've earned myself or 1548 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: earned opportunities into those next rooms based on my work, 1549 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: I now take that same work ethic into that and 1550 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: whether's that lead me? And so I think that's what 1551 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 1: it always is. It's always evolving, it's always the next step. 1552 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: And should you like be excited about your wins. For sure, 1553 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 1: you are blessed to have those wins. But what happens, 1554 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 1: like if we stop trying to win, we die, And 1555 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to die. 1556 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 6: And it's not hard to stay humble anyway, because like 1557 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,679 Speaker 6: we're human beings. 1558 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 3: We human beings, We just like y'all. We go through 1559 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 3: ups and downs. 1560 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,679 Speaker 6: Kids, you know, school, car wrecks, rush to the hospital. 1561 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 6: We deal with real life stuff too, so we have 1562 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 6: to be prepared for that too. And things happen every 1563 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,799 Speaker 6: day our life. So we can never get complacent because 1564 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 6: we are protected that provide us and we feel like 1565 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 6: it's always gonna be somebody. 1566 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:21,639 Speaker 3: We can help. 1567 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 6: So if we get complacent that one person that might 1568 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,679 Speaker 6: need some help, we might not be able. 1569 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 3: To help them. So that's why we gotta keep going. 1570 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: And these people help me too though, Like when I 1571 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 1: watch him succeed and then every time I see him 1572 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 1: he's exactly the same way. Like that humility to me 1573 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 1: makes me say, like that's what it's about. If he 1574 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 1: gonna dap me off, always be the same, Always be 1575 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,679 Speaker 1: the same dude I met years ago. I think those 1576 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: are the sort of people that continue to show you 1577 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 1: that it doesn't have to change because you're being blessed, 1578 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 1: because in truth, it ain't really. 1579 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 9: Us, right, I think too, it's we're so lucky still. 1580 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,600 Speaker 7: I mean, we've all been retired for a number of 1581 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,639 Speaker 7: years and people still want to take pictures and talk 1582 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 7: to us. I mean, when I first got here, they're 1583 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 7: like Matt the vi p is upstairs. I came right 1584 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 7: in here and started shaking to hands and taking pictures 1585 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:06,959 Speaker 7: of people. 1586 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 9: Because I feel lucky to be able to do this. 1587 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 7: It'll be seven years in June since I retired, and 1588 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 7: I'm as big as I've ever been as a business 1589 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 7: and as a person. So to continue to just think, man, 1590 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 7: I'm lucky that these people still want to hear me talk, 1591 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 7: These people want to take pictures with me. Some of 1592 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 7: the girls in here was trying to flirt with me. 1593 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 7: You know, it's it's it's. 1594 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 9: It's a blessing though, you know, it's a blessing. 1595 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 7: To really to really be able to stay relevant after 1596 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 7: your dem because we're so much about what are you 1597 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 7: doing for me lately? 1598 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 9: And what are you doing now? 1599 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 7: For us to all be older retired people and and 1600 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 7: still have an audience. 1601 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 1: Is a blessing if it's not dreaded, though, change your hair. 1602 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 4: Like Puerto Rican. 1603 01:10:55,479 --> 01:11:03,600 Speaker 9: That's Italian and Blacky that. 1604 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 4: Got a big sweat head. 1605 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what you have answer that question. They 1606 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 2: got a big squad that been related to say talking 1607 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 2: go ahead. I'm sorry, hey. I think about like this, 1608 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 2: life is a hill. There's no I honestly think about 1609 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 2: this way. Life's a hill. You're declimbing or you're falling back. 1610 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 2: If you're not working, you're gonna fall Think about staying 1611 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 2: on the hill. If you stop, you're gonna fall backwards. 1612 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 2: So you're either driving forward or you're falling backwards. And 1613 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 2: that's how I think about life. To ask the question, ma'am, Well, 1614 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 2: we appreciate y'all.