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Speaker 1: All right, Bernie, I'm gonna kick off this episode of

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Speaker 1: Cardinal Territory, episode sixty five for those of you keeping

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Speaker 1: score at home, with a question for you, Bernie, do

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Speaker 1: you know what the phrase fomo means?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I should, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's a very online, younger generation. I actually am just

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Speaker 1: now becoming familiar with this. It stands for fear of

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Speaker 1: missing out, and I didn't have that when I did

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Speaker 1: not go to Cleveland. This has been a scheduled off

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Speaker 1: so there was never a reality where I was going

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland. And now I really wish I did go

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Speaker 1: because that series, the Cardinals sweep the Guardians over the

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Speaker 1: weekend was some of the most fun baseball we've seen

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Speaker 1: from this team. And now I have missed out and

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Speaker 1: I fear it and I'm jealous. I wish I was there.

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Speaker 1: What a fun, fun weekend for the Cardinals, don't you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And guys, I don't even know where to start.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to ask you a question maybe after

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Speaker 2: I throw a few things out there. I want to

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Speaker 2: get your opinion on something. But you know this, this

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Speaker 2: this series was I know, it sounds kind of crazy

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Speaker 2: about the end of June and it's the Guardians. Even

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Speaker 2: though when the Cardinals went in there, the Guardians had

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Speaker 2: a winning record and they're certainly a respectable team, and

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Speaker 2: they pitch well. But the Cardinals go in there and

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Speaker 2: you know, they not only get the sweep, but you

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Speaker 2: have Sonny Gray, you know, basically one pitch away from

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Speaker 2: a perfect game on Friday. On Saturday, you know, miles

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Speaker 2: of mic list gets beat up. It's okay, it happens,

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Speaker 2: but they're you know, they're down by five runs. They

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Speaker 2: come back and win nine to six. And then Sunday,

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Speaker 2: you know, they get a lot of guys in the

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Speaker 2: lineup doing this, doing that, doing this, doing that. They

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Speaker 2: beat up on the Indians. Excuse me, the Guardian's pitching again,

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Speaker 2: and they win. It'll blow out another shutout. So there's

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Speaker 2: two shutouts in the series. The Cardinals scored twenty one

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Speaker 2: runs into three games. They had their biggest comeback of

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Speaker 2: the season, and the Guardians scored in one one inning

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Speaker 2: of the entire series. That was the sixth that they

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Speaker 2: dropped on Michaelis. So the Cardinals shut them out twenty

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Speaker 2: six of the twenty seven innings. And you don't mind

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Speaker 2: me looking my notes here, because I just think this

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Speaker 2: stuff is crazy. So you have Gray and Libby and

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Speaker 2: and King. So that's nine pitchers, nine of the ten

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Speaker 2: pitchers that they use, Miles Mey and the other one.

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Speaker 2: Twenty those nine pitchers twenty six shutout innings and allowed

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Speaker 2: only six hits in twenty six shutout. Think about that.

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Speaker 2: That is insane. Now. I know Libby walked some today,

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Speaker 2: they had a few walks in there, twenty six innings

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Speaker 2: of scoreless pitching, but only they faced eighty four batters

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Speaker 2: and they allowed six hits. I mean, this is just

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Speaker 2: like crazy stuff, right. You don't see this happening. And

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Speaker 2: the offense was very very good. So here's my question.

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Speaker 2: I see, I had to put all that on the

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Speaker 2: table for you to give you more to think about.

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Speaker 2: Was this the most dominant performance in a series by

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Speaker 1: It sure was, and that's why I'm pretty bummed I

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Speaker 1: wasn't there. So they sweeped the Guardians. I've watched the

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Speaker 1: trot of how many times the Cardinals have swept the team,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing. They improved to a season

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Speaker 1: best nine games over five hundred Sonny Gray on Friday,

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Speaker 1: nine innings, eleven strikeout, zero earned runs, eighty nine pitches.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, one pitch away from a perfect game.

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Speaker 1: That would have ended me, Bernie. If I would have

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Speaker 1: missed a perfect game, I would have never recovered from that.

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Speaker 1: For some reseultish reasons. I was a little relieved, but

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Speaker 1: still when I was watching it, I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: if you know, if he didn't shake off Pedro that

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Speaker 1: one pitch, and Olan Jones, we're watching history Tonight Saturday

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Speaker 1: Cardinals erased their largest deficit, biggest comeback win of the season.

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Speaker 1: And then today Sunday, Matthew Lovey goes six shutty and

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Speaker 1: Your stats say it all. Though, one inning out of

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Speaker 1: twenty seven the Guardians scored the Cardinals just after a

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter who's in the lineup right now, No Yvon Herrera,

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Speaker 1: no problems, I guess because this was pure word youre word, Bernie,

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Speaker 2: And what I liked about the sweep just the nature

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Speaker 2: of the sweep. And we already mentioned all the other stuff,

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Speaker 2: but I think this series personified the very best qualities

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty five Cardinals because and we already

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Speaker 2: covered the pitching part, because I think their rotations very underrated,

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Speaker 2: and I think the bullpens since late April has been very,

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Speaker 2: very on point, even with Helsley struggling by his standards,

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Speaker 2: so their run prevention run prevention has been in really

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Speaker 2: good shape all along. But there's two things I think

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Speaker 2: do that Saturday. That was impressive. That was really impressive.

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Speaker 2: The Guardians have a good club and they have a

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Speaker 2: good pitching staff, and for them to come back, roar

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Speaker 2: back after being down five to one or six to one, sorry,

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Speaker 2: that was impressive. The other thing the Cardinals always like

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Speaker 2: to say, there have been quotes in your pieces recently

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Speaker 2: and throughout the season. You know, everybody contributes. One through nine.

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Speaker 2: Everybody contributes. Everybody on this team contributes. So I just

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Speaker 2: did a really quick thing, no big deal. Twelve different

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Speaker 2: Cardinals had hits in this series. Nine different Cardinals drove

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Speaker 2: in at least a run, and six hit a home run.

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Speaker 2: And what I like about the home run thing, it's

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Speaker 2: six different guys. You know, there's no nobody hit two.

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Speaker 2: They all hit one each right now, So that that

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Speaker 2: This is a complete team. If I don't do it,

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Speaker 2: someone else is going to do it. Someone else is

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Speaker 2: going to step forward. It's a full team. Everybody contributes.

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Speaker 2: That's how we have to win. And I think so

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Speaker 2: when you look at the comeback and then you look

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Speaker 2: at the incredible contribution made throughout up and down the

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Speaker 2: of producing some runs. Right, that was about as good

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Speaker 2: of a team effort as you've seen all season in

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Speaker 2: a series, especially with you know, nine of your pitchers

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Speaker 2: combining for twenty six shutout innings. I mean that that

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, And I'm having a hard time. I watched

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Speaker 1: choosing which game I liked the most. On Friday, I

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Speaker 1: watched the game with Cardinals Spanish broadcaster Polo Asensio, and

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Speaker 1: we were, you know, just hanging out talking, had the

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Speaker 1: we're watching something here. So that was just really fun

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Speaker 1: You just don't see pitchers pitch like that anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what I really liked about that was postgame interview on

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Speaker 1: and that is so that means so much to a

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Speaker 1: young catcher who's growing in his career. This is not

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Speaker 1: the second complete game that pedro Pa has has caught

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Speaker 1: this year. So for a veteran guy like Sunny Gray

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Speaker 1: that was I thought, a really really sweet moment from

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Speaker 1: Sunny Gray, and then I loved Saturday. I love Saturday too.

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Speaker 1: So Daniel Guerrero from the Post Dispatch, he had game

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Speaker 1: coverage in Cleveland, and a little beat writer inside joke

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Speaker 1: is every time Daniel Guerrero has the game story, it

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Speaker 1: is the most unhinged, stupid baseball game you can imagine.

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Speaker 1: We laugh because he's always like, it's always me. It's

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Speaker 1: always me in the eighth inning and they've done this

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Speaker 1: ridiculous comeback and I have to rewrite everything. It's always me.

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Speaker 1: So when the Cardinals went out six', ONE i texted

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Speaker 1: our little group chat With daniel And Lynn, worthy The

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Speaker 1: calmness for The Post, dispatch AND i, said, well the

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Speaker 1: good news about this is That daniel has the, gamer

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Speaker 1: so you know The cardinals are going to win like

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Speaker 1: seven to six or, something and then immediately they started scoring,

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Speaker 1: again AND i was, like, Sorry, daniel you know this

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Speaker 1: is your this is who you. Are so Maybe cardinals

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Speaker 1: fans can hope That daniel gets a little more game

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Speaker 1: coverage lately because it usually means good things for. THEM

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Speaker 1: i don't know which GAME i like the, most BUT

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Speaker 1: i think you're spot, On bernie and talking about the

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Speaker 1: crazy thing to think. About all of a, sudden These

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Speaker 1: cardinals are looking more and more like. Contenders so we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that BECAUSE i know you AND i have

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Speaker 1: division leaders right, now The, dodgers The, cubs The. Phillies

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Speaker 1: your wild card, teams The, brewers The, mets and what's, that,

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Speaker 1: oh The cardinals the number six spot in The National

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Speaker 1: league wild card. Standing so the playoff picture is looking

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Speaker 1: quite favorable all of a, Sudden. Bernie and as we

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Speaker 1: enter everyone's favorite month of the, Season i'm just. Kidding

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Speaker 1: july is my least favorite. Month and the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: comes into. Play John mozelok is going to get his.

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Speaker 1: Wish he is going to have some very difficult decisions

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Speaker 1: to make ahead of the trade, Deadline, bernie do you

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Speaker 1: think that This cardinals team is worth investing in to

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Speaker 1: make a push to be contenders in the second, half

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Speaker 1: and if, so to what?

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Speaker 2: Degree, well if they continue to do what they've, done

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Speaker 2: and that even includes, losing that even includes looking bad

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Speaker 2: for a, while but they always get back on. Track

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Speaker 2: they're very, resilient but there and that's one of their best.

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Speaker 2: Traits and that's also very indicative WHEN i was talking

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Speaker 2: about this series representing some of their best. Qualities the

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Speaker 2: one THING i didn't mention is, that you, know they

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Speaker 2: got bushwhacked the last two games by The. Cubs The

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Speaker 2: cardinal should have won the, series and they couldn't score

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Speaker 2: a run in the final two, games and it was

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Speaker 2: a really flat note to go out. On so you always,

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Speaker 2: WONDER i know you AND i have talked about. This, well,

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Speaker 2: boy how are they going to respond to? This you,

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Speaker 2: know how are they going to respond to? This that's

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Speaker 2: kind of. DISAPPOINTING i know it's okay to get a,

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Speaker 2: split but, really when you win the first, two you

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Speaker 2: got to win one of the last two. Games that's

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Speaker 2: the WAY i kind of see. It, Okay so how

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Speaker 2: are they going to? Respond what's going to? Happen you,

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Speaker 2: know are they going to be down in the. Mouth,

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Speaker 2: No they're going to go in there and just just

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Speaker 2: rip The guardians. Apart and that's what The cardinals do

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Speaker 2: they always, Respond SO i am answering your, question BUT

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Speaker 2: i kind of want to set that. Background the one

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Speaker 2: thing about The cardinals is the fall. Down they get kicked,

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Speaker 2: around they get hit in the, mouth they get it

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Speaker 2: looks like they're. Disheveled it looks like maybe they're. Demoralized

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Speaker 2: AND i used to kind of always, wonder, oh is

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Speaker 2: this is this just a sign that everything's turning on

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Speaker 2: them now and they're. Not, oh maybe they're not going

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Speaker 2: to play that. Way, no like you just, Wait it's,

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Speaker 2: okay they'll come. Back they'll do what they. Do they

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Speaker 2: just like they did In cleveland after losing two in

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Speaker 2: a row and lopside and fashion to The. Cubs, right

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Speaker 2: they got on the, plane went To, cleveland part of

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Speaker 2: My french and kicked the guardian's. Asses, Right that's what

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Speaker 2: The cardinals. Do so my point is between now and

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Speaker 2: stretch where The cardinals look, human or the look they

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Speaker 2: look below, average or they look. Ugly there will be

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Speaker 2: a stretch like. That but in the past this, season

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Speaker 2: myself AND i think a lot of people would have, thought, well,

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Speaker 2: see maybe that's who they really. Are so be. Careful

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Speaker 2: you don't have to do much at the deadline because

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Speaker 2: maybe they're really not that, good you. Know, nope they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a bad stretch between now And july thirty,

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Speaker 2: First but what's gonna happen is they're gonna get up

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Speaker 2: and get back on the winning track and just basically

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Speaker 2: shut everybody up. Again so, YEAH i think this team

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Speaker 2: is worthy of. Investment. Now the tough thing THAT i

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Speaker 2: don't have an answer for is how big do they?

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Speaker 2: GO i wouldn't think they would go, big but the

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Speaker 2: more they, win is this like a sliding. Scale the

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Speaker 2: more they win and the more that started strengthening their

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Speaker 2: position at the central race of the wildcard? Race does

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Speaker 2: that mean they would get outside of their comfort zone

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Speaker 2: and how? MUCH i still would expect a rather conservative,

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Speaker 2: how they. Play if they keep rolling up series, WINS

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Speaker 2: i think that almost would require a bigger play at

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Speaker 2: the trade. Deadline nothing, crazy but just a bigger. Play

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Speaker 2: what do you?

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Speaker 1: Think i'm with, You. BERNIE i don't think that there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a big blockbuster move right mainly because

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Speaker 1: in seasons, prior where The cardinals had every reason to

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Speaker 1: go all. In are you thinking twenty twenty two they.

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Speaker 1: Didn't look If Albert pools And yadi Ra molina's last

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Speaker 1: year's and then going to get The duets to push The,

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Speaker 1: chips then nothing is but this year in, PARTICULAR i

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Speaker 1: am okay if The cardinals take a conservative approach into

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Speaker 1: the trade, deadline because they are balancing that fine line

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Speaker 1: of transitioning to twenty twenty, six and the last you

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Speaker 1: want to, do because The cardinals have been needing to

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Speaker 1: do this for so, long is blow up the future

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Speaker 1: for the sake of a. Win now maybe mentality and

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Speaker 1: What i'd be saying things differently if it was clear

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Speaker 1: that The cardinals, were you, know far and above the

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Speaker 1: best team in THE Nl. Central, maybe but, look you

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Speaker 1: can't discount The cubs or The brewers and even The

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Speaker 1: breads to some. Extent and The National league in general

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Speaker 1: is just so much more competitive than THE Nl. West

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Speaker 1: think about. It you have The, dodgers The, padres The,

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Speaker 1: giants ALL Nl west. Contenders you, know The mets and

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Speaker 1: The phillies are going to go. OUT i know The

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Speaker 1: phillies are going through it right. Now but that goes

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Speaker 1: back to your Point. Bernie good teams have bad weeks

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Speaker 1: and then you look, around they'll go back to the

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Speaker 1: wild card. Standings, yeah you see The cardinals right in

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Speaker 1: the middle of. It but it's it's no. Guarantee, now

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Speaker 1: do they deserve all the praise for being nine games

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Speaker 1: over five hundred as we head Into, july just one

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Speaker 1: day left In. June. Yes DO i think that they're

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Speaker 1: a contending. Team, Yes BUT i also do not think

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Speaker 1: The cardinals should deviate from their plans of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six and beyond this, Team this group right, here this

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Speaker 1: core has already shown they can win and they can. Compete,

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Speaker 1: yes you want to add because you know teams like

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Speaker 1: The cubs are going to be super aggressive and starting.

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Speaker 1: Pitching The brewers always seem to do something at the trade.

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Speaker 1: Deadline The dodgers are going to go spend five hundred million.

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Speaker 1: Dollars we know, this, Okay so in order to keep

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Speaker 1: up with your, opponents, yeah you should be, buying but

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Speaker 1: not to the degree where you're tearing down the roster

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Speaker 1: and making these lucrative deals that are going to harm

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Speaker 1: you long. TERM i think that's the wrong approach for

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Speaker 1: The cardinals to. Take DARE i, say this would be

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Speaker 1: the only season Where i'm okay With Saint louis bian semi.

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Speaker 1: Holders you, know we talked about this. Before maybe you

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Speaker 1: trade someone Like Eric fetti because there's always a demand for,

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Speaker 1: pitching an open the door For michael. McGreevy maybe you

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Speaker 1: go out and you buy a veteran and you add

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Speaker 1: a rental, reliever BECAUSE i feel like The cardinals do

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Speaker 1: that every, year and if you're looking at one, area

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Speaker 1: the bullpen could probably use. It some experience never hurts

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Speaker 1: for teams trying to make a postseason. Push but this,

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Speaker 1: core if the primary purpose of the season was to

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Speaker 1: figure out if this core can compete at what the

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Speaker 1: future looks, like we're figuring that out. Already the future

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Speaker 1: it's pretty good at This cardinals cork and keep competing

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Speaker 1: in the way that they have throughout the first half

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Speaker 1: of the. Season they don't need to mess this up

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Speaker 1: any more really than a couple of simple. Ads, however

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Speaker 1: the competitive level of The National league makes that a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. Difficult So i'm, torn and we'll see

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Speaker 1: coming into The All star break what the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: starts to look. Like we Treat july first as the

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Speaker 1: start of the deadline because It's. July but as we,

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Speaker 1: know especially in the world of Mister, mazeylak things don't

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Speaker 1: really come into form until the last week of the.

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Speaker 1: Month it is certainly a very complex, decision AND i

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Speaker 1: can argue both sides of.

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Speaker 2: It, yeah. Definitely the one the one thing THAT i,

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Speaker 2: would you, know maybe draw the line on is if

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Speaker 2: they first of all these these, players the dugout, Staff

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Speaker 2: ali and all the coaches and the, players all of,

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Speaker 2: Them they've done everything that's been asked of. Them they

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Speaker 2: have exceeded, Expectations they've exceeded. Projections, uh they overcame the

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Speaker 2: doom and gloom. Forecast they Overcame, uh the fact That

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Speaker 2: Bush stadium isn't rocking like it has rocked in the.

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Speaker 2: PAST i, mean if we can talk about, reasons but

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Speaker 2: the bottom line is their thirteenth and average tickets sold

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Speaker 2: per home. Game cardinals haven't been in that territory in

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Speaker 2: a long long. Time so they're not even doing it

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Speaker 2: with like a full house of. Support so they but

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Speaker 2: they don't. Care they just keep, playing, winning, winning, winning, winning, fighting,

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Speaker 2: winning coming, back coming, back coming. Back they cannot abandon this.

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Speaker 2: Team they can't strand this. Team that's WHY i think

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Speaker 2: If john mose, like for, EXAMPLE i agree with. You you,

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Speaker 2: know even though you Know swonson and, O'Brien you, know

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Speaker 2: some of those kids have actually pitched really. Well they

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Speaker 2: need To they need to have as much help as

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Speaker 2: they can possibly get in the. Bullpen AND i would,

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Speaker 2: say you, know instead of getting a, reliever who can

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Speaker 2: you know help, You, well he'll help, Us he'll give a.

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Speaker 2: Step go get a reliever that actually makes you. Stronger, now,

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Speaker 2: again that's not easy to. Quantify it's, like, well would

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Speaker 2: you what would you have to give up for? THAT

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Speaker 2: i don't, know BUT i think that if the going

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Speaker 2: to make any, move don't make just some kind of

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Speaker 2: like nip and tuck type, move you, know don't do.

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Speaker 2: That just do something that really will. Matter i'm like, You,

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Speaker 2: Katie i'm living in the real world. HERE i don't

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Speaker 2: expect The cardinals to start trading young talent to like

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Speaker 2: this maniaco all in. Approach they're not going to do,

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Speaker 2: that nor should. They but don't just go make a

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Speaker 2: move just because you can bring in a reliever and

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Speaker 2: so see we got a, reliever you, Know try to

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Speaker 2: make a. Difference try to make a. Difference and that's

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Speaker 2: really hard for me to. Define AND i know, that

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Speaker 2: so it's easy for me to, say make a move

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Speaker 2: that makes a. Difference it's easy to, say but that's

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Speaker 2: kind of What i'm looking. At make the move, count

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Speaker 2: that's all BECAUSE i think these players and that manager

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Speaker 2: and those coaches absolutely deserve back up, Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think that you're sending a huge message

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Speaker 1: to morale for that clubhouse. Too if you go in

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Speaker 1: there and The cardinals are firmly in the playoff picture

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Speaker 1: Around july thirty, first and you take away from that,

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Speaker 1: core what are you communicating to, Them, hey thanks for

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Speaker 1: succeeding all of the expectations we, said for going above

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Speaker 1: and beyond in this very weird season that we gave.

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Speaker 1: You ory are going to take you out of contention

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Speaker 1: by either selling or not adding to an extent that

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Speaker 1: gives you a. Chance And i'm not saying blowing. Up

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Speaker 1: i'm not saying go out and make all these moves

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Speaker 1: that impact your. Future but if you want to communicate

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Speaker 1: to this next core Of cardinals talent that you believe

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Speaker 1: in them and reward them for their play this, year because,

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Speaker 1: firstly nobody had The cardinals almost ten games over five

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Speaker 1: hundred right, now, Right, BERNIE i know you AND i

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Speaker 1: certainly did. Not then you communicate and you go make

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Speaker 1: an impact. Move that's the right way to put. IT i,

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Speaker 1: Mean Phil maton ends up being a huge impact, move

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Speaker 1: and at the time we were, like you, know this

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Speaker 1: is a good. Signing you, know he's a veteran two

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Speaker 1: and a half million. Dollars he fits like The cardinal.

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Speaker 1: PERSONA i didn't have him being arguably their most reliable

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Speaker 1: reliever all. Season but if you get someone like A

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00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,959
Speaker 1: Phil maton in terms of someone who has gone out

426
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,239
Speaker 1: there and done it, before go get a veteran who

427
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 1: has done it, before who has posts and, experience who

428
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: isn't going to cost you more than a twenty twenty.

429
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: SIX i don't even know who's out. There we don't

430
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: know what the bullpen market looks like far too. Early

431
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: but if there is a reliever who fits this criteria

432
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: of someone who has, posts an, experience someone who has

433
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: done it, before a, veteran and is preferably not under

434
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 1: contract after twenty twenty, five that's the kind of bullpen

435
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: ARM i think The cardinals should. Target but really it's

436
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: about making sure this core feels like they have been

437
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: put in a position to, succeed because you could argue

438
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: that they have, not AND i would actually leave that.

439
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: Argument but they have done a commendable, job as you,

440
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: said players and staff, alike in making this organization, relevant

441
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: despite almost everything suggesting that they wouldn't be.

442
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 2: So and the thing that, is and this even bakes

443
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 2: in a couple of pretty bad, stretches, Right and we

444
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: know they had that one blazing stretch where they won

445
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: fourteen out of, Three BUT i was looking at this

446
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: today and this just just solidify the point each one

447
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: of us are making. Here if you go back To april,

448
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: thirty that's a day that they've won the doubleheader In, Cincinnati,

449
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: right The cardinals are thirty five and twenty. One they're

450
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: fourteen games over five. Hundred that even includes a very

451
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: yucky stretch where they were really, bad right at one

452
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: point they lost eleven out of, sixteen and they, still you,

453
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: know going in, today they that. Record, well now it's

454
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: thirty five and twenty. One that's gonna be if WHEN

455
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: i look it up in the, morning that's going to

456
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: be at worst like second in The National, league maybe.

457
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: Third it's going to be a top three league record

458
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: in the, league and it might probably be a top

459
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: five record In Major League. Baseball that's going back to

460
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: the end Of. April so The cardinals have had two

461
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: months of playing, really really, well and when they go

462
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: down in the, valley they get right back up and

463
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: they start winning it. Again so that's a team that

464
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: shows you that they have Got they absolutely have got

465
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: what do you want to call, it intangibles plus, talent,

466
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: character competitive, character great, chemistry just this great, mindset great.

467
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: Attitude they've got what it takes to stay in this.

468
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: Race so you really need to make a Move. Accordingly

469
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: you're not in the same you're not on the same

470
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: doc as The mets or The dodgers or The yankees

471
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: or who else can we put in, there, well The,

472
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: phillies The. Cubs you're not in the same. Doc you,

473
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: know you're. Not your yacht isn't as big as their. Yacht,

474
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: Okay so they're they're gonna go all, In they're gonna go,

475
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: crazy they're gonna lose their, minds and there's gonna be

476
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: some other teams that will do that. Too The cardinals

477
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: are in a different boat. Slip they don't have the big.

478
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: Yacht they don't have The Jeff bezos. Yacht, right they got.

479
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: Something they got something a lot, smaller but it's still

480
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: a good. Yacht. Right they got to do something right

481
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: based on their. Expectations they've got to do what they

482
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: can without going. Bananas they got to do whatever they

483
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: can to make this team stronger for the. Stretch they

484
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 2: just have. To this team has proven it's worth that.

485
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: Investment And i'll say. THAT i say that even if

486
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: they going To chicago and lose all three, games because

487
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: there's a lot of teams that are going To chicago

488
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: and lose all three. Games look at how The mets

489
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 2: are playing for gosh, sake three hundred and thirty eight

490
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: million dollars. PAYROLL i, mean, look they're having players, meetings

491
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: they're all going they're. Panicking you, know that's The, mets.

492
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: Right so one Thing i'm not going to do anymore

493
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: is overreact to when The cardinals disappoint. Us you, KNOW

494
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: i just got to keep it steady because this is

495
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: happening all over. Baseball that's a great.

496
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: POINT i think The cardinals have earned that earlier in

497
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: the Season April. MAY i think fans had every reason

498
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: to be like what the heck is? There we knew

499
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: they were going to be, bad, Right but your favorite,

500
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: team whether you're a fan of The Red sox or The,

501
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: rockies your favorite team is going to have a brutal,

502
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: stretch even the best. Teams The phillies early In june

503
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: went through. One The mets are going through it right.

504
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Now The dodgers went Through, yes even The dodgers Went.

505
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: Yes every team is guaranteed in this one hundred and

506
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: sixty two game season to have multiple weeks of baseball

507
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: where they aren't playing. Well it's what you do when

508
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: you are playing well in those games in between that really.

509
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: Matters so The cardinals, slide, yes of, course you want

510
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: them to do well against The. CUBS i get. It

511
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: cardinals have a couple of slip ups before the trade.

512
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: DEADLINE i don't think any of this. CHANGES i think

513
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: that the overwhelming evidence of this season so, far of

514
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: the first half suggests that The cardinals are a good

515
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: team rather than an average to mediocre. Team and as

516
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: we have all this focus on the trade, DEADLINE i

517
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: know there'll be plenty On John. Mazailak he is the

518
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: one making the, decisions but there should be some focus

519
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: on ownership. Too if they're going to give him some

520
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: of the financial flexibility and what will be a recession

521
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: near for the, team there might be a Chance remo

522
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: can only do so. Much and obviously he's not going

523
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: to go out and say that he has bosses, Too

524
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: but a lot of this pressure on the deadline also

525
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: goes to. Ownership so, RIGHT i, agree we'll see how

526
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: the next thirty one days. Go we'll spin it forward

527
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: to the next. Week first, though quick message From.

528
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Speaker 1: Order all right on the docket in the next, week

547
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: three games against The pirates In. Pittsburgh three games At

548
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: wrigleyfield Over fourth Of july. Weekend The cardinals will Face

549
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: Paul skeins On. Tuesday they're probably looking forward to that,

550
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: though BECAUSE i like the only team in baseball that

551
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: can Make palkins look. Humans SO i think your probables

552
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: are For Saint, Louis Eric fetti On, monday Under polante On,

553
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: Tuesday Sunny gray On, wednesday and The pirates will throw And,

554
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: Drachini Paul, skins And Mitch keller in that. Order we're

555
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna see The cubs in Either Sunny gray Nor showy

556
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: managav will pitch in that, weekend much to my, chagrin

557
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: but still should be if, honestly six really compelling baseball.

558
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Games as L central starts to heat, Up, bernie what

559
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: are you looking?

560
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: At, well you gotta win The pirates. Series and, again you,

561
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: know stuff happened in. Baseball you can't demand, things BUT

562
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: i would think it's reasonable'd, expect especially the way they're.

563
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: PLAYING i, mean The cardinals were ten and three in

564
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: their last, thirteen eleven and four in their last. Fifteen you,

565
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: know it's reasonable to expect them to, say, listen, man, listen,

566
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: fellas you got to go in there at least take

567
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: two out of. THREE i never demand a. Sweep that's,

568
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: stupid you, know it's just not. Realistic chicago's a different.

569
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: THING i, MEAN i would expect The cubs to win

570
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: two out of. THREE i would expect. That that doesn't

571
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: mean it's going to. Happen and that ought to be

572
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: just an incredible. Series AND i know it's okay for

573
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: you how to look. AHEAD i don't think the players

574
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: will look. Ahead they're gonna love going back To Wrigley,

575
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: field a little sour tastes in their, mouth have the

576
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: final two games here with THE, Us so this'd be

577
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: a wild week. Week you, know can they Beat skeens?

578
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: AGAIN i, mean it isn't a matter of Beating, skins you,

579
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: know it's beating The pirates because The skeins pit this

580
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: great all the, time and they lose games that he.

581
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Starts so you, know if they can do that, again

582
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: chances are they can. Sweep i'm not getting, greedy BUT

583
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: i think that it's certainly within the realm of. Possibility

584
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: and then your of, course your hope would be that

585
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: they would win two out of three At Wrigley. Field

586
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: but if they win one out of three At Wrigley,

587
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: Field i'm not going to write a column or do a,

588
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: video you, know calling them. Fronts you, know just it's

589
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: The cubs are really, good and but The, cubs as we've,

590
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: seen they are also. Vulnerable so they have a superpower type.

591
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: RECORD i don't know that they're an actual superpower when

592
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: you look at their record against some of the best

593
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: teams in. Baseball you, know The cubs have really really

594
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: taken advantage of beating up on seven worst teams in

595
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: baseball this. Year so you can beat The, cubs AND

596
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: i think The cardinals learn. THAT i think they learned

597
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: that At Bush, stadium even though they had a settle

598
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: for a. Split so, Anyway i'm looking forward to this

599
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: is a fun week of. Baseball it really.

600
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: IS i. Agree i'm excited to get to it SINCE

601
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: i missed three of the best games of the. Season

602
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: but you know, what, HONESTLY i wonder if they're gonna

603
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: let me in the clubhouse because they seem to be

604
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: playing really good games When i'm not. There Pedro paz

605
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: really delivers offensively WHEN i am not. There it's become.

606
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Noticed WHEN i walk, In, he's, oh a, homework you weren't.

607
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: There SO i got to fix. That i've got to

608
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: start going to more. Games and, usually you, Know bertie Was.

609
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: BERNIE i never missed, games BUT i don't. Know if

610
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: they keep winning, HIM i have. To we'll.

611
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: See that's Why Pa hayes is the starting. Metcher he's always.

612
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Prepared he's always he does his, studying his, preparation his.

613
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: Homework he knows all the, numbers he knows. Tendencies, see

614
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: he's on top of. It by the, Way AND i

615
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: just say this real. Quick you, Know Oli marmel And

616
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: Dusty blake and the pitchers Love Pedro. Pihes it doesn't

617
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: mean they hate the other. Guys, Okay it's just That

618
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: pajes's next, level, Right he really truly. Is but how

619
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: about that message That Sonny gray was sending not only

620
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: do his, catcher but sending it to whoever was.

621
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Watching that was that was not. Intentional that was a

622
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: veteran doing veteran things right.

623
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: There this is our. Catcher and again it's not a

624
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: backslap at the other two, guys it's. Not this is our.

625
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: Catcher he is really important to. US i thought that

626
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: was a really powerful scene and a very powerful. Message

627
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: so he.

628
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Brought up because that WAS i Brought sunny earlier in

629
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: the show WHEN i talked About Sonny gray Bringing pedro.

630
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: In that was the point THAT i wanted to go

631
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: to get, to and THEN i forgot to get. There

632
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: that's all, Right probably my, Back. Berdy that's why we.

633
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: Together you know, ME i can, TALK i can remember

634
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Speaker 2: things that you hadn't even thought of. Yet, No i'm

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Speaker 2: just SAYING i always got you have my.

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Speaker 1: Back you're a good. Teammate, NO i, MEAN I i

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Speaker 1: thought that was so.

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Speaker 2: Profound i'm Maybe i'm, overreacting but you, know because there's

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Speaker 2: still a lot of discussion about, well he can't, hit

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Speaker 2: so they got When herrera comes, back he's got to

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Speaker 2: be the. Catcher no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 2: No all due respect to our listeners and, viewers all due,

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Speaker 2: respect you don't get. It you don't get. It this

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Speaker 2: guy is now in a special class of catchers where

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Speaker 2: every picture in that room wants him to be behind the.

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Speaker 2: Plate why he makes them? Better the other two, guys

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Speaker 2: all due, respect do not make the pictures. Better he.

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Speaker 2: Does that's a huge.

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Speaker 1: THING i think part of the reason there's some skepticism

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Speaker 1: from the fans is because we said this. Before there

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Speaker 1: is no stat to provide statistical evidence to prove this.

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Speaker 1: Point you have to rely on the words and mouth of,

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Speaker 1: reporters which does nothing despite my best. Efforts but when

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Speaker 1: a player goes out and says it and says to

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Speaker 1: the public what they've been saying to their, coaches to,

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Speaker 1: teammates to media, privately when they do What Sunny gray,

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Speaker 1: did then all of a, sudden fans have something to

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Speaker 1: back up. THAT i, know this Is, missouri it's the show.

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Speaker 1: MISTAKE i, know you guys got to see it to believe.

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Speaker 1: It but Pedro pa Has his preparation is game, changing

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Speaker 1: and that's why he's getting so many starts and will

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Speaker 1: continue to do.

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Speaker 2: THAT i real. QUICK i went back last week and

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Speaker 2: did some. Research i'm gonna update it tomorrow, morning probably

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Speaker 2: put it in one of my columns or. Something BUT

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Speaker 2: i went through each Individual cardinal pitcher and what their

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Speaker 2: E er was When pies was their. Catcher it's really.

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Speaker 2: Remarkable the only guy with a BAD. Era And i'm

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Speaker 2: not trying to make a joke in Pyleon Miles, michaelis

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Speaker 2: but but even then it wasn't a horrible E. Ra

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Speaker 2: it was over four runs a, game you, know And

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Speaker 2: pies caught michaelas to start In Fenway. Park he caught

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Speaker 2: another which was a disaster in another, One So i'm

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Speaker 2: not Blaming pies for. That but you you go down the,

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Speaker 2: list every single picture like their e ra's when they

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Speaker 2: work with this, guy there are phenomenal and it's, like,

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Speaker 2: no that's not that's not, random that's not a, coincidence

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Speaker 2: that that really means. Something so they they they allow

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Speaker 2: when he's behind the. Plate it is a fact they

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Speaker 2: allow fewer runs per game period and it's not by

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Speaker 2: a small margin.

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Speaker 1: Either so you heard it here, first, guys Pedro pa

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Speaker 1: has for. President as we go into another fun week

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Speaker 1: ahead for The, Cardinals bernie any especially you got going

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Speaker 1: SAY i do this every week BECAUSE i think more

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Speaker 2: Out And oli always wants the questions. Too he really

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Speaker 2: he's really different that. Way. No five columns a week

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Speaker 2: week one of those. Shows AND i Do Seeing Red

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Speaker 1: Territory, yeah fabulous is, subjective but lots of stuff we Know,

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Speaker 1: Bernie he's a content factory up on The. Athletic you'll

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Speaker 1: have A Brendan donovan feature coming up tomorrow AND i

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Speaker 1: i think a really unique opportunity to See donovan behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes as he kind of grows into a leader

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Speaker 1: and hopeful An All star candidate for The. Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: then Come july first trade deadline overload at The. Athletic

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Speaker 1: no matter who your favorite team is or your FAVORITE b,

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Speaker 1: writer we will have things for you And i'll be

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Speaker 1: ramping up the coverage of THE Mlb, draft which is rapidly.

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Speaker 1: Approaching cardinals have the number five, pick so things could get,

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Speaker 1: weird all, Right bernie will be a very fun week

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Speaker 1: well him AND i will be here to wrap it

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Speaker 1: all up with. You, thanks as always for Watching Cardinal.

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Speaker 1: Territory we'll talk to you From. Pittsburgh