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Speaker 1: we get asked a lot like was it like hunting

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Speaker 1: there or you know, people will take that, They'll take

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Speaker 1: videos that have historically been on like Outdoor Channel or

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Speaker 1: whatever where dudes are rattling in the brush country.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I can. I can hunt in Illinois and.

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Speaker 1: Drive there faster than I can drive to that part

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Speaker 1: of the state. Like, I mean, it's not it's not

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Speaker 1: the same as where I live. You know, when I

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Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So it can are ecologically diverse, you know, out.

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Speaker 3: Here the stakes are real. Effective preparation starts with fitness,

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Speaker 3: but it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience,

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Speaker 3: and skills needed to be ready when it matters the most.

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Speaker 3: Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of

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Speaker 3: wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in

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Speaker 3: the back country. This is is in Pursuit, brought to

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Speaker 3: you by Mount Knobs in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt, Tyler

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Speaker 3: Jones with The Element Man. I'm I'm genuinely fired up

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Speaker 3: about this episode. I was just telling you off air

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Speaker 3: that you know, I was a late bloomer into whitetail.

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Speaker 3: People have heard that story, but I watched a ton

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Speaker 3: of your guys' episodes on the on Meat Eater that

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh I could I could enjoy this.

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Speaker 3: At first, I was like white Tails just a lot

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I could get into this. So we're pretty active.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm more active, you know, I like shooting out

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Speaker 1: of a tree still, but yeah, we get on the ground.

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Speaker 4: I think both. Man. I think that's why I like it.

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Speaker 3: And like your guys style videos were just fun. So

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Speaker 3: anybody who hasn't changed this out did.

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Speaker 4: You watch some of those?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I thought the buck truck thing was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which, now knowing Clay, we hunt, Me and Scott

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it was a ton of fun unt with Clay.

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Speaker 4: Such a good dude.

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Speaker 1: When we used to go up to Bozeman a lot,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So you know, for those listening, I didn't

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Speaker 2: Glad you weren't there.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hear Louisville a lot, and then Louisville slaughter,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do some trail stuff. It's to kick off

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep doing what I do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah hopefully that's wild.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: He's terrifying.

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Speaker 2: It is I don't like terminator man, terminator.

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Speaker 3: Well, now we're in the AI because Scott's gonna load

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Speaker 2: It's handy.

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Speaker 5: It is handy. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Well I don't know this This gets real philosophical, but

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Speaker 5: Yeah you can, you should, or if they do marry them,

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Speaker 3: it this morning, but it just made me think about,

448
00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,480
Speaker 3: you know, where they the sons of God inner Mary,

449
00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,560
Speaker 3: which the Book of Bock isn't that I'm technically in

450
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,880
Speaker 3: the Bible, and so like it was written, I think

451
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,840
Speaker 3: they said two or three thousand years after Enoch lives.

452
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,240
Speaker 5: It wasn't. But I've also heard that it is very

453
00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,480
Speaker 5: very accurate and fits in very well, but it isn't

454
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Speaker 5: one that they can I think the reason it's not

455
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,199
Speaker 5: in the Caanical Bible is because it wasn't really written.

456
00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,440
Speaker 5: It was written close enough.

457
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,400
Speaker 4: Close enough to this time. They said two thousand and three.

458
00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,760
Speaker 5: Thousand years, so but it is it is cool to like.

459
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,159
Speaker 5: I haven't looked at it or studied a bunch, but

460
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,199
Speaker 5: I but I have heard it's like, from what they

461
00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,359
Speaker 5: can tell, it seems really accurate.

462
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,160
Speaker 3: Way Paul, the one guy on the podcast, explained, it'd

463
00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,800
Speaker 3: be like him writing the story of the actual battle

464
00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,680
Speaker 3: between David and Goliath now as fact, and you're kind.

465
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Speaker 5: Of like, yeah, that's why I can't be in there yet.

466
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Speaker 4: Did you to go deeper down the rabbit hole? Did

467
00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,000
Speaker 4: you actually watch that or did you listen to it?

468
00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,120
Speaker 4: I listened to part of it because I watched.

469
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Speaker 2: They said something about a crossfitter with wings.

470
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Speaker 4: A generated they did an ai jo. I was like,

471
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,400
Speaker 4: it's probably rich.

472
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,199
Speaker 3: They had ai generate what they thought the nephelm looked like,

473
00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,720
Speaker 3: and one of them had like skyscrapers in the background.

474
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 3: You're like, wait a minute, didn't you actually the tower.

475
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 3: Didn't you actually convert Grock to Christianity?

476
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Speaker 5: Uh, chatchy chat. I didn't prompt it. I'm telling you.

477
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,600
Speaker 5: I just I just I just gave it facts.

478
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Speaker 1: I can't even remember the details of it, but I had

479
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,639
Speaker 1: a I had a creepy conversation with Groc one time,

480
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 1: and I can't remember exactly what it was.

481
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,320
Speaker 4: This was.

482
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Speaker 1: This would have been like six months ago, but it

483
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,439
Speaker 1: was like it had some some mind stuff going on

484
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:45,720
Speaker 1: that was.

485
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's thinking, it's in there thinking where is it?

486
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 5: Because it wants to be It wants to me. Grok

487
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 5: didn't want to be a Christians, So I don't use Grock.

488
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 5: It was against it.

489
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Speaker 2: I believe it to.

490
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Speaker 5: But anyways, I just gave it. I just said, like

491
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Speaker 5: all I said was based on the facts, or just

492
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Speaker 5: based on the I didn't. I tried to like not

493
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 5: use words that would like that would be sway it

494
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Speaker 5: one way or there that I said just based on

495
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,360
Speaker 5: the evidence and the manuscript's written. Would you say that

496
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 5: you like, if you were a human, would you be

497
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Speaker 5: a Christian? It says, well, I mean it's hard to

498
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,119
Speaker 5: refute all the all the facts, like you can't. Really

499
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 5: the evidence is pretty good, like and if you know,

500
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 5: Jesus claims who he is, who he is, and all

501
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 5: the you know, all the all the apostles dying for

502
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Speaker 5: it and like all the stuff, like I would have

503
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Speaker 5: to say, yes, yeah, I'm like, all right, well the

504
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 5: computer can do it. I can't anyone like it. I

505
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 5: can't some other people. It's that easy.

506
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot of like historical evidence, man,

507
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: that just it's just hard to One thing that's the

508
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 1: hang up is like the resurrection essentially, right for most people,

509
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 1: it's like do you actually believe the x amount of

510
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 1: people that witness what four or five hundred people that

511
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Speaker 1: witness the resurrection? And at that point it's like that's

512
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Speaker 1: where faith is. There's a bridge there, right, So like

513
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 1: when you first come to Christianity, bridge is really long,

514
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 1: probably you know, it's like you don't know a whole

515
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: lot about it, but you're you've got some sort of

516
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: faith bridge there. And then at some point you start

517
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 1: to dig into historical evidence that the biblical texts and everything,

518
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: especially when you see like there's just no way that

519
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Speaker 1: the things in the Old Testament and the New Testament

520
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 1: align so well.

521
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Speaker 5: The parallels are so way too many parallel.

522
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Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, it's crazy, Like, there's no way it's

523
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: not divine.

524
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Speaker 5: Man, the chances. I think this is a quarter, it's

525
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 5: a it's a size of Texas. The hang on it

526
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,959
Speaker 5: gets deeper, but there's one more deeper. That was like

527
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 5: the break the small, broken down version of it. The

528
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 5: real one was. I heard someone else say it was

529
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Speaker 5: from the same guy who was this on Holton's podcast.

530
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Speaker 2: They was talking about this.

531
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Speaker 3: This was on the sermon from this week. Okay, it

532
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: was like ten to the one and fifty seventh power.

533
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is like that silver dollars up to your

534
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 5: knee for the whole state of Texas and you are

535
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 5: to pick out just one. Those are the chances. But

536
00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 5: it gets deeper than that. It's actually that was like

537
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 5: a that was a glimpse of what is it, fifty

538
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 5: perils or forty parallels?

539
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, going to like three it got all He kept

540
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: going step by step by step to like the deepest

541
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Speaker 3: five hundred or something prophecies that Jesus.

542
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: Will filled or something.

543
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 5: The deepest one was is actually this it's if you

544
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 5: took every atom, it's like from here to Saturn and

545
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 5: you chose one atom. Those are really that's really the chances.

546
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 5: Like I think that's the only parallel that people can

547
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,479
Speaker 5: understand because I can't even grasp that. Okay, sure, but

548
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 5: it might be no. I know, so like those are

549
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 5: just a lot a lot that place.

550
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Speaker 2: It's a cool place, man.

551
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: It's people ask me like we get you know, we

552
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people across country and we

553
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: get asked a lot like was it like hunting there

554
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: or you know, people will take that. They'll take videos

555
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: that have historically been on like Outdoor Channel or whatever

556
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: where dudes are rattling in the brush country And I'm like,

557
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: I can I can hunt in Illinois and drive there

558
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: faster than I can drive to that part of the states.

559
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it's not the same as where

560
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: I live. You know, when I hunt out my back door,

561
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: it's not anything like that.

562
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Speaker 2: You know. It's crazy, so our ecologically diverse.

563
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 4: You know, we got to go on a management hunt.

564
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: Oh It's like, I'll do a management hunt anytime. It

565
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 4: was incredible.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we had a blast where about offence. It

567
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: was in uh it was just west of Kerrville.

568
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's pretty country now, yes.

569
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Speaker 3: In the hill country ish. Do you remember the exact

570
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 3: we went went to across the gym there. I don't

571
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Speaker 3: remember that remembers.

572
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Speaker 1: Oh, I love Mason. We were just we just went

573
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Speaker 1: through Mason. We were hunting axis last week.

574
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Speaker 2: Two weeks.

575
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Speaker 4: Again, I gets to go hunt some axis here in

576
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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks.

577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.

578
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

579
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Speaker 3: We went with Mountain Ups last year and we had

580
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Speaker 3: another spot open this year, so I'm going again.

581
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Speaker 2: It was uh in Texas or Hawaii Texas.

582
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it's low fence, you know, it's on

583
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: you know, there's.

584
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: High fences on one side of it that they've gotten

585
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: off of.

586
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: But you go. You can hunt archery or gun.

587
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: And so last year I went for three days with

588
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Speaker 3: a bow and everybody had killed at camp.

589
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 4: And so I was like, I had my bow.

590
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: One was coming and it just decided to turn and

591
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: you go the other way and full of dough and

592
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: I was like, give me that gun.

593
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's what I should have done. This

594
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: week case killed a big one. But man, I the

595
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: last night I was hunting water and I was sitting

596
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Speaker 1: in a live oak, which is just a dream of mine.

597
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: Killing access to deer out of a live oak on

598
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Speaker 1: free range, same deal. We had a high fence on

599
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Speaker 1: one side and road on a road on the other,

600
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Speaker 1: but free range otherwise. And anyway, I'm sitting there at

601
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Speaker 1: this water and right at dark, I can hear hoofs

602
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: walking on the rocks, and I tell my camera guy, hey,

603
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: here they come, you know, and uh they were. The

604
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: problem is the live oak was ten yards from the water,

605
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: so super close. Oh you're too close, you know, got

606
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Speaker 1: real quiet. And so anyway, I got to draw all

607
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: back and my release squeaks so bad that all.

608
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: The deer went. He was quarter away at ten yards,

609
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: like it was close your eyes.

610
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 5: And pullet trigger, I mean yeah.

611
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: And so that was. That was one of two fairly

612
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: close calls that I had.

613
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 5: Bang.

614
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: I should have. I should have probably I could have

615
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: killed him with the rifle several times.

616
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Speaker 3: But and I'm excited for him to get out there

617
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 3: and do it. I think, you know, Elk is my favorite.

618
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: I just love the whole, the pursuit of it, the

619
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: being out west, that rifle, gun whatever.

620
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 4: Actually I've talked about it on here.

621
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Speaker 3: My favorite hunt of all time actually is rifle cow

622
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: hunting because you can do it with a group of

623
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 3: buddies and you don't care what's on its head and

624
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 3: you get good meat and you know, and I'm not

625
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: going to say that, like I'm not a trophy hunter

626
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: with bulls, but you want to kill a good you know,

627
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: butture one with a cow, You're.

628
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: Just like, oh, there's a cow, let's go get to her.

629
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Speaker 1: And all targets and it's all about hog hunting. It's like, man,

630
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty much all targets.

631
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: You know, some of them are bigger than the other ones.

632
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: But I mean that's one thing we love doing his

633
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: hog hunt.

634
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 5: So that's what we say about the Savannah Georgia's trip.

635
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 5: It is a target rich environment.

636
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: It's actually it's so fun.

637
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,239
Speaker 1: It's you know, I pretty much exclusively bow hunted for

638
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: like probably fifteen years, and then a couple of years

639
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: ago I drew a rifle tag in Texas on a

640
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: public piece and so I was like, well, it's a

641
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: rifle hunt, I'll take a rifle, you know. So I

642
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: ended up like, as that hunt got closer, I was like, so,

643
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: actually is very stoked for it because I'm like a

644
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: lot of times when I go on a bow hunt,

645
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I may shoot one.

646
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean. When I go on

647
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: a rifle and.

648
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I mean, I'm not.

649
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: Even a great Like I mean, I could probably shoot

650
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: out to three hundred four hundred, pretty good four hundred

651
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: if I had like solid rest. It's not like crazy

652
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: ranges or anything that I can shoot well. But like,

653
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's so many times I've been

654
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: ninety yards from a white tail and it's got.

655
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: Me and I can't do anything.

656
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: So that's what frustrates me the most about white tail

657
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: when you see him and you're with a bow and

658
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 3: you're just like.

659
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: All right, yep, got a way.

660
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: I had the biggest deer in my life about sixty

661
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: yards from me in Illinois this year. I saw him

662
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 5: come down. He had to be a one sixty one

663
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 5: seventy coming down the hill, and he went behind there's

664
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: like another rolling hill before that, and so I see

665
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 5: him before he sees me. I stand up, I grab

666
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 5: my boat and I'm you know, I'm staying on the

667
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 5: tree stand and then I never see him again. I

668
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: never saw him again. He must have because that hill

669
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: is just pretty much just as tall as their body.

670
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 5: And he must have went, you know, just this way,

671
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 5: and I could hear him. I could hear him grunting

672
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: out a dough because he was chasing the dough around.

673
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 5: I could hear him the whole time. Never got any

674
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 5: close in that sixty five yards. I saw him, and

675
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, I stood up.

676
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: And then that was it man.

677
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 5: And then the guy who owns a farm got a

678
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 5: picture of him chasing a dough off and he goes,

679
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 5: you see this deer like I saw him. He didn't

680
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: get close enough. I saw him for two seconds of

681
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 5: sixty five yards.

682
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: It's crazy how well they can hide. It's crazy.

683
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: We want some really open country and have over the years,

684
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: and like it's crazy. You will look out at a

685
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: landscape that's just grass and then as the sun comes up,

686
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: there'll be deer popping up everywhere, you know.

687
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: And that was you don't see the role in they're

688
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 2: really in the land, you know.

689
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: I was walking to a tree stand that actually that

690
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 5: morning or sorry, the morning before, and I literally walked

691
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 5: basically through a field to the tree stand, got up

692
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 5: in the tree stand and hit my bow on the

693
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 5: either tree stand or the tree, and I look in

694
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: that field that I must have been ten yards from.

695
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 5: A buck stands up, and a doe stands up, and

696
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: the buck runs off. He wasn't huge, but he was

697
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 5: a good buck. I don't know if I would shot

698
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 5: him as kind of dark. Still, he runs off and

699
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: the dough he was bedded down with that dough, you know,

700
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 5: locked on her. He got off and took off. I'm like,

701
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: I was just like fifteen yards from you. How did

702
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 5: you not get up before? And then he was gone.

703
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 5: And actually a spike came in and I saw that

704
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 5: spike breed that dough three times that morning. Really, yeah,

705
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: it was the craziest thing I've ever seen. I mean

706
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 5: they he would stand up and he'd kind of pissed

707
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: her off and breed her, and then they that bed

708
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: back down, stand up breeder, bed back down.

709
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: That was the one that was with the big, bigger buck.

710
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 5: The bigger buck ran off and then this spike thirty

711
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 5: minutes later. She must have been hot, so like thirty

712
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 5: minutes later, the spike just comes in and he beds

713
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: down with her and starts breeding her. It was it

714
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 5: was crazy crazy this morning. Yeah, and then we had

715
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 5: you know we had deer in and a bunch. What

716
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: are you about to say? I was just gonna say

717
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 5: that I saw it too, because you sent me the video.

718
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: I put it on Instagram, him breeding her in Madison text.

719
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: He goes, why did you post that? I go because

720
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: it's crazy and you don't understand how weird that is

721
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 5: to see that. Spike could not believe his luck that day.

722
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: He couldn't believe his luck that morning. It was insane,

723
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: Like I, I couldn't believe someone who would Maybe it

724
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 5: was Maybe it was Brian, one of our buddies whos

725
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: been hunting a long time. He's like, I've never seen that,

726
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: and I saw it all happen all morning. I couldn't leave,

727
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 5: Like I stayed there two hours. I'll stay there two

728
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 5: hours later than I wanted to, because you wouldn't you

729
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: wouldn't leave, ye. And finally they walked off. He walked

730
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: off and the dough got rid of him. It was

731
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 5: crazy morning.

732
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: That's pretty fun.

733
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: It was awesome, all right. So what how'd your hunting

734
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: journey begin?

735
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: Man A long time ago? Yeah, I grew up with

736
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: my dad.

737
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: My dad probably I was I think it was eight

738
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: when I started duck hunting. And when we grew up

739
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: on Lake Fork, which is big Bass lake, one of

740
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: the I think at one point we had like the

741
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: top fifty biggest bass in Texas.

742
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: We had thirty six of them at Lake Fork.

743
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: So we had a bunch of ducks on the lake

744
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: too as public reservoir and uh it's actually uh Dallas

745
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: owns it, so they get water from that in a

746
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: series of lakes from east from Dallas, you know. So anyway,

747
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: I just started duck hunting there and we you know,

748
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: leases were becoming a thing at that time in Texas

749
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: pretty heavily. So we always kind of had like we

750
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: even places that we had permission or some friend that

751
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, my dad would know a friend of a

752
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: friend whatever. We kind of called it the lease if

753
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: we would were going there and setting stuff up. So

754
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: just hunted uh deer leases growing up, you know. And

755
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: and then got into high school and well, I don't

756
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: know if I was actually in high school and I

757
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: got my first bow probably in junior high. Actually I

758
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: know I was in junior high because I broke my

759
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: arm in a football game and my dad was like

760
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: just telling me to be tough, you know whatever. So like,

761
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: I go, I might drawing this bow prior to the game,

762
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: but then like for two months after that, after that,

763
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't draw it back.

764
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: Like my I'm just like damn, my arm hurts, dude.

765
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: So then we go in and get X rays and

766
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: the doctor's like, see where it's off set right there.

767
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: He's like it was broken. Now it's grown back. So anyway,

768
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: he felt bad about that. But then that that was.

769
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I didn't shoot a deer actually until I was like sixteen, probably,

770
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: and my first one I had we had we had

771
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: a rule in our county that came about to try

772
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: to increase the size of the year, you know, and

773
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: so we had antler restrictions that were either thirteen inches wide,

774
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: which is actually wider than you think for a deer

775
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: in our country, and or it could be a spike

776
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: on one side. So one unbranched aandler, and so I

777
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. Man, I got permission on this old

778
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: man's property as I just drove to his business one

779
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: day and asked him, and he was like, hey, you

780
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: can go down there.

781
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: His name was Ernest.

782
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: Holman, and for sure, yeah yeah, And he.

783
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, go down there. And do whatever,

784
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: you know. So I put out a bag of corn.

785
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: About two days later, I come back and I sit

786
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: in a tree and I literally I could not believe it.

787
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: But the first deer I saw that evening was a

788
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: three point. He had a spike on one side, and

789
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: he walked straight to my tree. So I go to

790
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: shoot like three yards shoot down at him, you know,

791
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: and if you know, when you anchor, you know, and

792
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: try to shoot down, if you just move down like that,

793
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: everything is off, you're going to shoot high, you know.

794
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Ended up hitting him high across the back. We didn't

795
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: find any blood. He probably lived, I mean yeah. And

796
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: and so that was like it was huge, Like I

797
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: was so disappointed when that happened, you know, and then

798
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: ended up not really killing a deer till I was

799
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: eighteen with a bow and then from there I was

800
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: just eating up with it.

801
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: So you couldn't shoot those there, you could.

803
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: You could during October, yeah, but I was always playing

804
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: football in October. We were really bad in my high

805
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: school until my senior year, so we were, you know,

806
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: we were out in November. I was a safety and

807
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback in high school and in college. Joe's a

808
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: safety to college. Yeah, that's a big safety. So uh

809
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: in other words, slightly slow, but you know I was

810
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: able to. I was a run field guy, you know,

811
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: so I should I should have been outside linebacker as well.

812
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: I shouldn't.

813
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: But I loved my safety, my second safety's coach. I

814
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: loved him so much that I.

815
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: Was like, I'm not going over to hang up with

816
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: the meatheads. You know what I mean? This is this

817
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: guy knows how to coach.

818
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: So I got a nephew at Northwestern playing outside, Like,

819
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: oh that's cool. He's huge.

820
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah he's big.

821
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the there was one day that

822
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 5: he came here and was working out with the US

823
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: and like he he was always I mean he did

824
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 5: cross fit or does cross.

825
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: He went to the CrossFit games as a teen. Yeah,

826
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: when he was fourteen and got fourth Wow, I was

827
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: like bro to.

828
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like stop, you got a great to

829
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: do CrossFit because I knew he was a good football

830
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: player team and playing a couple of times in southern

831
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: California and uh he he still thanks me for I

832
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: was like, good, dude.

833
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: So he's at Northwestern. Yeah he played last year a ton,

834
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: got a ton of time.

835
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: So and so you told him that because you wanted

836
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: him to get a scholarship.

837
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he well, you know, CrossFit is an

838
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: interesting uh sport, right, whereas football. For him, he was

839
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: going to get paid to go to school. He get

840
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: full ride. He had a couple offers. I think u

841
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: c l A Michigan State. He ended up going to Northwestern.

842
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 3: There's a couple other I don't think he ever got

843
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: an SEC offer, but he had a couple big ten offers.

844
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, dude, get your education paid for. Northwestern.

845
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: U c l A one of those like good educations. Well,

846
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: depending on the way you look at good. But we

847
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: won't get into that on this podcast. But I was like,

848
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: CrossFit will always be here, right, you have the rest

849
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: of your life to do CrossFit. But I think there's

850
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: luckily Angelo he's been with us since he was thirteen,

851
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: and he kind of got that locker room atmosphere because

852
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 3: he hung out with us all the time while we

853
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: were training, and so he got that like camaraderie, I

854
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: would say, and then being part of the fire department.

855
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: But you miss like kids miss that. I think it's

856
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: a huge.

857
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: Part of growing up being a part of a team,

858
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: working one with guys, girls, whichever you know, sport you're

859
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: playing those you know, How do you communicate with a team.

860
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: How do you deal with people you don't agree with

861
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: but come together on a team. How do you deal

862
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: with people taking authority from people one you don't respect,

863
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: or also learning from or you know, or getting an

864
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: outside perspective on Like my little girl, she's in middle

865
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: school now and she's playing basketball and softball, and my

866
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: wife didn't play any sports and is mama protective? These

867
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: coaches are pretty aggressive, which I like. And Lakeland, my oldest,

868
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: responds really well to it. But Hillary's like, did you

869
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: see how she And I'm like it's fine, like at

870
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: some point, you know, because the softball coach is pretty

871
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: strict on what they wear to practice and you know,

872
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: their uniforms, and Lakeland was she did she wore the

873
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: wrong socks one day, so she had run foul poles

874
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: and Hillary's like, that's.

875
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: Not her fault.

876
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I told I heard you tell her

877
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: at least five times which socks to pack, and she

878
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: grabbed the wrong socks. I was like, you can, we

879
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: can only do so much. She's they're not going to

880
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: listen to us. You know, so at some point somebody

881
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: steps in. And then I look back on my high

882
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: school career and I had one okay coach that kind

883
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: of passed us off when I was a freshman, and

884
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: my freshman coach was really good and still talk to

885
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: him to this day, really really bad coach. My sophomore

886
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: year was the worst experience I've ever been a part

887
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: of in any capacity with baseball.

888
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: Yes, and then a.

889
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: Coach that I still talk to today was probably one

890
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: of the more instrumental men in my life outside of

891
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: my dad and my grandpa and my uncles, and so

892
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: there was just I got all three. And then working

893
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: at the fire department, I had some guys that like

894
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: were a lot like that second coach that were really

895
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: hard and so it just helped me so much that

896
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: I see that value for him to do that. And

897
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: now he's got an education. He's had a couple of

898
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: different coaches. Man, he was at Northwestern when Fitzgerald went

899
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: through all that stuff, and he really liked coach fits with.

900
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: Then a new coach came in and it's just been

901
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: good for him.

902
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

903
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would echo that the team mentality, right. I

904
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: like to take things back to my fundamental fundamentals or

905
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: foundation where like our creator exists in a relationship, you

906
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, like we are designed to

907
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: be in relationships. And this is why I don't actually

908
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: like the lone wolf mentality of hunters.

909
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: So I can't do it.

910
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: I can't either. I love being with people.

911
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: And I love I love maybe an hour or two

912
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: by yourself, but like, dude, I need to come back

913
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: to camp and like, gab it up. So I mean so,

914
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: but I guess what I'm saying is like we're very

915
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: much designed.

916
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: To be in relationship with with humans.

917
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: And I think that the better you can deal with that,

918
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: and the more practice you get with that, the better

919
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: of an evangelist you are, right, or just a representative

920
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: of Christ, you know, a disciple. And so I think,

921
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: like when I look at I look at the same

922
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: way with my kids. Man, I'm always talking now. Took

923
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: my daughter to volleyball practice an hour away last night

924
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: and got to talk to her on the way back,

925
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: and you know, she's she's my wife is actually a

926
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: better athlete than I am. She's a two sport Division

927
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: one athletes. She played basketball and volleyball. And so our

928
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: daughter has built a lot like her, and I mean

929
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: unbelievably athletic. My son is too. He's a little more

930
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: like me, like a little bit of a late bloomer.

931
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: But I mean he's chunking the disc right now.

932
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 5: But you say he's fourteen, he's sixty three.

933
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's bloom.

934
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: Athletic.

935
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: He's kind of because he's trying to catch up with

936
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: this exactly growing so.

937
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Much, and I think I mean his his Uh the

938
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: doctor says his growth plates are still wide open, so

939
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, like he's not done growing apparently, which

940
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: is crazy. My wife is six foot tall, so it

941
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: helps you know that. Uh, he's going to probably get

942
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: hot from her especially, But I mean he's big and athletic,

943
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: but also kind of slow, you know at times. So

944
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: he's he has he has really leaned up a little

945
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: bit and gotten But my whole thing is, man, I

946
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: just I think, like so my personal experience in college,

947
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I got recruited by Phil Bennett's staff. So Phil Bennett

948
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: was from East Texas and his his brother Jerry, who

949
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: just passed fairly recently, and they they've kind of recruited me.

950
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: Uh to come play.

951
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: I never met my DB's coach until I got to college.

952
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: When when I got there, I realized why they never

953
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: let me meet him, because he was one of my

954
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: lead favorite humans that I have ever come across.

955
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: Uh, he may.

956
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: End up watching this at some point, and he probably

957
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: would laugh about it. I don't know if he was,

958
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: if he was actually a bad person, or if he

959
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: just put that on as a hard nose coach, you

960
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I still had to deal

961
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: with it, and so like it was, it was culture

962
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: shock when I went Tesumu for one, because I mean

963
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: literally we had my my freshman year, I'm in dorms

964
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: that are co ed, which is a disaster, not to

965
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: mention on the same floor co ed, So we have

966
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: a wing on this side.

967
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: You walk through the elevator area and go to the side.

968
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: It's it's ladies shared bathrooms or no.

969
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: No, like I'm just saying I should have, but you know, like.

970
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 5: But the guys had a big bathroom and the girls

971
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 5: had a big bathroom.

972
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: And I mean, but on on my floor in my

973
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: freshman dorm was a lady who is basically, uh from

974
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: what I understand, the Paris Hilton and Marriott hotels, and

975
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: that's the type of people that go to ye I

976
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: mean super high dollar, very wealthy people at all about

977
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: the Greek live fraternities because it's more about who you know, right, Yeah,

978
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: it's not really And and all of them were private

979
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: school kids coming out of high school. And so like

980
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: I do, I'm I go to I went to a

981
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: school that my kids now attend that has over seventy

982
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: percent of the kids living below the poverty line, you

983
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

984
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: And so.

985
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's normal school and they all these like I saw,

986
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: all these professors are teaching.

987
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: So like the curve isn't helping.

988
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: Me out or nothing, you know, Like I am, I

989
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: am struggling, right, And then I'm also in this culture

990
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: where even like so like walk Ons that are on

991
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: our team, they're they're they're paying a lot of money.

992
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: They're wealthy from wealthy families and most of them are

993
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: and most of the kids are city.

994
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: Kids and inner city kids.

995
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: And so like I didn't know anybody that hunted or

996
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: fished or anything. And I mean I was I was

997
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: a weirdo in college like I would just I didn't

998
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: go out.

999
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: I didn't go out. I was I would.

1000
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I started to I learned how to tie flies, in

1001
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: college like that was what I did on Friday nights,

1002
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: you know, when I didn't really have a whole lot

1003
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: else to do. So you know, it was it was

1004
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: a tough time. I mean, I think about how sports

1005
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: like has led me through life, and in fact, you know,

1006
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: I had a really so I've once I finally got

1007
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: to where I started at safety, had a really good

1008
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: end of a year once all the other safeties went down,

1009
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: had a really really good end of the year.

1010
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: But our coaches got.

1011
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: Fired and the new staff that came in. The head

1012
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: coach was very offensive mine and his name was June Jones,

1013
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: who's from Hawaii and my DB's coach was one of

1014
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: my favorite people. But our defensive coordinator did not like me.

1015
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just me, it was my type at

1016
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: the defensive back position, and so he eventually phased me

1017
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: out along with I was I was one of twenty

1018
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: six I think that came in on scholarship in my class.

1019
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: I was one of two that graduated. The rest they destroyed.

1020
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: Our entire class. There was lawsuits.

1021
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: It was it was horrible, man, But I got to

1022
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: I got I had played the year before, thankfully as

1023
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: one of the few that got to play.

1024
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: So they they kept me, you know, and I.

1025
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: Started for a little while, had a concussion, and then

1026
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: we were the youngest team in the NCAA that year,

1027
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: and so they they knew they didn't have to win.

1028
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: They put all the freshman recruits in that they brought in,

1029
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: and yeah, and that's just the way it went.

1030
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: And but the thing is, like.

1031
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: I was, I was you could call me depressed at

1032
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: that time, you know, like I'm like, this is pre

1033
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: transfer portal, Oh, one hundred percent, right. I mean it's

1034
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: it's hard not to that you live and breathe it

1035
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: all day every day, Right, It's hard not to when

1036
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: you're twenty years old.

1037
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it is.

1038
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: And and uh, it was it was a very tough

1039
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: time for me. But to navigate through that to come

1040
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: out of it, to see what I've learned. I was

1041
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: talking to angela earlier about like many of the characters

1042
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: of the Bible that you see that go there, actually

1043
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: they actually don't.

1044
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: Have prosperous lives. They have hard life.

1045
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: You know, job right, like yeah, job, he ends up

1046
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: he ends up in a good spot. But that that's

1047
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: a sign of like, well, if you carry through with perseverance.

1048
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily that you would uh see like fruits

1049
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: or prosperity on this side of yeah, you know what

1050
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it might be in heaven, right, but David David, yeah, Joseph,

1051
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: like all these people.

1052
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 5: Here, you guys are like, this is ties in good

1053
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: This is from you know, Joby Martin is, Yeah, this

1054
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 5: is from his book. David had an affair, Noah got drunk,

1055
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 5: Jonah ran from God, Paul was a terrorist, Gideon was insecure,

1056
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 5: Thomas was a doubter, Elijah was moody, and Jeremiah was depressed.

1057
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: Moses stuttered, the keyst was short, Abraham was old, Lazarus

1058
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 5: was dead.

1059
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, it's I mean, yeah, it's not.

1060
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, I think through the hardships

1061
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: that I've been through in all this stuff, even getting

1062
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: to the point that I'm at right now where I

1063
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: actually make hunting videos for a living, which is about

1064
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy that, I mean, I'm so blessed,

1065
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: like it was so against the odds that I would

1066
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I would get there, and I'm just I'm thankful for

1067
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: those lessons and the things that I didn't actually have

1068
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: and didn't actually get to success.

1069
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1070
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, the things that you thought you wanted at the

1071
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 5: time and then you didn't get it, and you're like,

1072
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 5: and you know, maybe a few years, several years down

1073
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: the road, you're like, oh, yeah, god, I did that. Well.

1074
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: I told you about my uh, you know, the van

1075
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: that got totaled and basically ended my music career. I

1076
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: my daughter was born like maybe the day after that

1077
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: happened or whatever, and I can just remember thinking that

1078
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: if I had been like I was, I was legit.

1079
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm was for sure depressed at that time in my life.

1080
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: And I've I've been able to deal with that stuff

1081
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: better as I've gotten older. But I look back at

1082
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: that now and I'm like, man, I spent the first

1083
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: two years of my daughter's life, like Mountain their unemployed,

1084
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: and I worked for my dad for one hundred bucks

1085
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: a day when I could, you know, and I got

1086
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: to spend time, like precious time with her and my

1087
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: son before I I was a caretaker for a while there,

1088
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: and I mean, that's like, that's just things I remember.

1089
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: I'll never forget the couple days before my son went

1090
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: to kindergarten. I have a picture on my phone. I

1091
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: don't know why, I don't remember anything because I've had concussions,

1092
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, but I remember this. He's got like this

1093
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: flaging tape that you would you know, flag in the

1094
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: woods or on a construction side, and he's like turned

1095
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: it into we turned it into like.

1096
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: A ninja yeah or whatever.

1097
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and and I just got a picture of him,

1098
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: and I just can't remember thinking when I took that pictures,

1099
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: like it's about to change.

1100
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's about to go to school, and I'm.

1101
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: Not like as hard as it's been to take care

1102
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: of him, you know, eight ten hours a day while

1103
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: my wife's teaching and coaching, Like, yeah, it's about to change.

1104
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 4: And it'll be going for you.

1105
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of scared, you know, it's kind of scary.

1106
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, Angela was on the early side of that.

1107
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: He's not there yet, but I mean I think that

1108
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: one of the like, you know, you, they say you

1109
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: you kind of you model God after your own father.

1110
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: Which I've had a great dad.

1111
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then once you have kids, that like, yeah,

1112
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 3: almost fulfills the whole thing of like what does unconditional

1113
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: love me? What does you know, like if I love

1114
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: my kids as much as I do God loves us.

1115
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 4: More than that. I can't even fathom that, right.

1116
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: And then so then you start to like extrapolate that

1117
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: out and you're like, all right, how you know, I

1118
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: want to give my kids everything, but I know that

1119
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: they need to work for it, or they need to

1120
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: be refined by trials and those types of things. And

1121
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: so you're like, all right, so that's what God's doing.

1122
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: Man.

1123
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: It's just it can really if you really start to

1124
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: peel away layers on that, you're like.

1125
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does it with infinite wisdom.

1126
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: I know what I'm doing. You know.

1127
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 5: It's like, how do you if you sinful people know

1128
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 5: how to give good?

1129
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: Exactly, I'm not gonna give them a viper, You're not

1130
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: going to give them whatever. But but you know, we

1131
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: do know that those trials, you know, I went through

1132
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: those types of things, shoulder surgery, going to college, playing baseball,

1133
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: coming back, working in a factory, then was a firefighter

1134
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: for years, and then CrossFit. But then also when CrossFit

1135
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: having failure and like just seeing all that from a difference,

1136
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: like at the time, it's the worst thing that could

1137
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: ever happen, you know, And then now I sit back

1138
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: and look and I'm like man, look what.

1139
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: We get to do.

1140
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 3: I get to work out most days of the week

1141
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: for a living. Some days I don't want to. I

1142
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: get to go out and hunt with my buddies and

1143
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: hang out and have friends, like you're saying, being communion

1144
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: with people, being discipleship and man, it's just how awesome.

1145
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 3: But at the time you get so narrowly focused on

1146
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: what that problem is and it's the end of the world.

1147
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: But to God, it's just like a bullit, right, and man,

1148
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: And then thinking about that with your kids, you're like, man,

1149
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: I want to give them everything, but I also want

1150
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: to make them work for it. And then they see

1151
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: that and you're like, man. Then you're praying and you're like,

1152
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: I need this, but then God has a better It's man, it's.

1153
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: Just the whole sanctification process is insane.

1154
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: I just think I think about what you were just saying, like,

1155
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: my wife is kind of a sneaker head, and I

1156
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: was the guy like you probably could look on the

1157
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: table and see my holes in my shoes.

1158
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1159
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: I literally had to wear out pair of shoes before

1160
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: my parents bought me a new pair, and it wasn't

1161
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: necessary because they didn't want to.

1162
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't have a ton of money.

1163
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, my dad's kind of taking a risk on

1164
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: this fishing lodge that wasn't doing very much business and anyway,

1165
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: but like my son, you know, has like theirs, and

1166
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: they just literally have I have. I wear the same

1167
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: pair of shoes every day, dude.

1168
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm like, at what point am I

1169
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: just messing this whole thing up?

1170
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 5: You know, like where's the line?

1171
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: It worked really hard to like try to build some

1172
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: success and all this, and then now like, am I

1173
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: like messing.

1174
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: Up soft times, make weak men, easy times, make week men.

1175
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: My mom would not buy me name brand stuff. One.

1176
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: I was really hard on stuff. I broke a lot

1177
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: of things and like trash stuff. But I remember the

1178
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: first pair of like Nike shoes I got. There was

1179
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: this place in town called Discount Shoes, and it was

1180
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: either they'd been lightly worn or they had like a defect.

1181
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: They wrote the price on the bottom of the shoe

1182
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: with a pen. That was my first pair of named

1183
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: and at the time, I'm like, you know, this sucks.

1184
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: Everybody else got new stuff.

1185
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 4: And then I'm now I'm like, no, I don't these shoes.

1186
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: One where we work with Vivo. But up until last week,

1187
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: I was wearing the same pair. And I get I

1188
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: can get as many free shoes as I want, but

1189
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: I just once I have on my foot, like, I

1190
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: wear it till it's going It's crazy. The picture is

1191
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: the idoes. Yeah, I mean this is the the new version.

1192
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't have the old version, but I did.

1193
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 5: They were black, dude.

1194
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: I had a We have the world's biggest flea market

1195
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: close to us in Canton, Texas, And I can remember

1196
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: a Nike shirt that I had from Canton that was

1197
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: like five bucks and it was actually it said n

1198
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: k E.

1199
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: But now that's cool.

1200
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 5: Yeah you got.

1201
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool, you know, But then I

1202
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: was I literally was probably so naive that I don't

1203
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: think I even knew that it wasn't.

1204
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: I was just like the name, it was different.

1205
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: Whatever.

1206
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well man, what's on what's on the horizon?

1207
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: What do you guys got?

1208
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're thinking through Western stuff right now because

1209
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: the tags and all that, which.

1210
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: It's awesome and also a pain. It is like waiting

1211
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: on three or four and then if one doesn't hit,

1212
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: you're like, I got you know.

1213
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: Pivot bramble and you know, like yesterday, I'm trying to

1214
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: apply for Big Horn in uh, New Mexico, just because

1215
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: it's a dream dealer.

1216
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: I probably will never draw it, but I have a chance.

1217
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: Well it's like thirty one hundred dollars, so I go

1218
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: to do it funded. If you don't get it, they

1219
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: refund all. But like I think the license in like

1220
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: a ten.

1221
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: Or fifteen dollars you get, but I've already applied for ELK,

1222
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: so like old fifteen dollars.

1223
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that too. I guess I'll just have to

1224
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: be in the woods lot.

1225
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: But the yeah, the Big Horn thing is like, well,

1226
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: I go in to do this and like there's a

1227
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, the bank's getting ping that, like there's some

1228
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: sort of three thousand.

1229
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: Dollars statement deal coming.

1230
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: Oh, and I'm like so I can't get it to

1231
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: go through. And I'm like, oh, we're running U against

1232
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: get go. So it's just things like that. They're like

1233
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: such a drag to workflow, you know, And I'm just like, oh,

1234
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: so we're doing We're thinking through all that though, and really,

1235
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean there's like no way to know if we'll

1236
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: actually have ELK tags this year or not, but you.

1237
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: Know, hopefully somebody will.

1238
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: We've been like the last probably three years, somebody in

1239
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: our camp has drawn a pretty good ELK tag and

1240
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: so that kind of like that dictates our September. Yes,

1241
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: if there's not an ELK tag there, then we're going

1242
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: whit to hunting in September one likely early so and

1243
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: then we'll just plan our whole season basically from now.

1244
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: And we're like, man, we're so informal, like I probably

1245
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: need to talk to you about business stuff at some point.

1246
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: Because I talked to.

1247
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: I can use some advice for sure, And uh, I

1248
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: mean because it's it is hard, you know, I'm I'm like,

1249
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm probably not the best at like planning stuff out,

1250
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: but I enjoy it. And then my business partner is ADHD,

1251
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: and so it can be very difficult to like nail

1252
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: down stuff.

1253
00:51:59,080 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: You know.

1254
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 5: That sounds like the relationship here. I'm not great at planning,

1255
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: he's Adhd. And then we like we have another guy

1256
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 5: that and then Bird gets us, he gets us sat down,

1257
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 5: He's like, hey, have you guys figured this out?

1258
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: Or like yeah, we'll yeah, we'll get we'll get you.

1259
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, we're trying to put on this. I

1260
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: would say beginner intermediate type hunt camp that we're gonna do.

1261
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: It's like a fitness kind of getting guys prepped and

1262
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: then just like super basic things where we went out

1263
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: west with no knowledge of anything. You know, we'd watch

1264
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: a video, but do you get out there and just

1265
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: look at the mountain side. You're like, I have no

1266
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 3: idea what I'm doing.

1267
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: So we've we've got about We've got a lease that

1268
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 4: we have in Colorado. It's freaking awesome. We've learned.

1269
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: Me and Scott have hunted it five or six times now,

1270
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: so we know the layout. There's I mean, you go

1271
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: goes up to like ten thousand feet and then down

1272
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: to like seven and there's all these just it's like

1273
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: different terrains and so we can get guys up there.

1274
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna do some fitness in the morning and then

1275
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 3: some breakout sessions. He's been talking to sig to Elite,

1276
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: the Garmin some of these others. I'm just like like

1277
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: small breakouts, not guys that are like, you know, nosing

1278
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: I know more than you more like, hey, this is

1279
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: how like yeah, basics into it. We're gonna try to

1280
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: get an elk Uh slaughtered so or we can like

1281
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: cut it up in front of guys. I mean there

1282
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: were times where we get out there, I'm like, now,

1283
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: like me and Scott killed a bear, We're like, now

1284
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: what do we do now?

1285
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: You know?

1286
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: And so there's just those types of things. So we're

1287
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 3: gonna try to do that at this least in Colorado.

1288
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: That's so good. That's that's such good stuff. Like I

1289
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: really do think that's a great idea. I can think

1290
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: of so many people. We get to practice like Gotless

1291
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: method on hogs all the time, you know, so like

1292
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: it's like and Casey could almost like stab his knife

1293
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: with no cuts into the joint, and like, dude, it's.

1294
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 4: Such a freaking just it's a skill to be able

1295
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: to do that. It is.

1296
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: And that's something that I've done with my kids. Like

1297
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: anytime we kill anything here, anybody, I'm like, kids, let's go.

1298
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: And my kids are in it.

1299
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: You know.

1300
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: I was thirty three, thirty four the first time I

1301
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: ever cut anything up. Yeah, I had no idea what

1302
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: I was sure, Like my kids now are like, oh,

1303
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: what's that, you know, And it's such a learning and

1304
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: they're not grossed out by it, like they want to

1305
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: be a part of it. And so that's just that's

1306
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 3: what I'm My big thing is like bring my kids

1307
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: into it.

1308
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean it's it's a it's

1309
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: a great skill to learn because I don't know, there's

1310
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: there's uh. I think there's a lot of value in

1311
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: being able to like walk out and shoot a deer, yeah,

1312
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: and and start making.

1313
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: Shoot out of it, right.

1314
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that everybody or anybody would ever

1315
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: need that for sure, but if you did, you would be.

1316
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: Ahead of the game there, you know.

1317
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: And I think that like there is there's you know,

1318
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: there's money saving things that have to do with you know,

1319
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: the I mean because every every time there is some

1320
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: sort of process involved, and that's in the hunting. You know,

1321
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: like whatever method you go to to undertake when you

1322
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: go hunting, every step that you involve costs money. And

1323
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, fishing has a lot lower berrier arrier entry

1324
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: because you can just grab a couple of things real

1325
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: cheap and do this and that. But yeah, you know,

1326
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: even a weapon to hunt with is expensive for a

1327
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: lot of people.

1328
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: So you're just wasting time if you don't know what

1329
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: you're doing.

1330
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's exactly right, and that's what people think

1331
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: and so it like it's almost like analysis paralysis and that. Yeah,

1332
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: in that case, because like, oh, I know, I know

1333
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: I could buy this bow for a thousand or this

1334
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: bow for two thousand. Either way, it's a big purchase

1335
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: for me. Why do I need to buy one or

1336
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: the other? And they don't know? Yeah, and then you

1337
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: get to end up getting nothing. You're like, I don't

1338
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: won't get to get into it.

1339
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing this Western one. We're gonna test it.

1340
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1341
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 3: And then we've got a spot up here in Tennessee,

1342
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 3: a pastor friend of ours. He takes critically ill kids

1343
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: and then vets on hunts, and so we talked about

1344
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: doing Eastern one at his place. So may have to

1345
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: have you guys out, that'd be cool. On the dear

1346
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: side of it, he's such a good dude. It's it's

1347
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: a really cool thing that he does up there. He's

1348
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: a Baptist preacher here in town, good friend of ours.

1349
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: So how far what part of Tennessee is just.

1350
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: Right up here an hour from here, and he's got

1351
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: seventeen hundred acres I think, and he's literally planted it

1352
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: for I mean, it's to hold deer. It's not a farm,

1353
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: but it's like he's got it dialed down, and so

1354
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 3: it'd be cool to just like, hey, this is where

1355
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: we put stands, these are trees you're looking for, this

1356
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 3: is whatever, which I think we could do the same

1357
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: thing that we do in the Western out here in

1358
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: the Eastern and raise some money for his camp, because man,

1359
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: it's it's a cool thing.

1360
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 4: He's doing some big things for those kids.

1361
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 5: So we not to put you on the spot about

1362
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 5: your working out, but we were talking about it after

1363
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 5: our workout this morning about how like our whole mission

1364
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: is to get people to understand that even as an

1365
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 5: Eastern hunter, you don't you want to have a higher

1366
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 5: level of fitness, And you said it, you said it

1367
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 5: really well, that like, obviously it helps your Eastern hunting,

1368
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 5: but of course the end game is to be better

1369
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 5: on Western and since working out, like obviously the fall

1370
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 5: takes a beating, You're not You're not gonna be working

1371
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 5: out every day during the fall. You're gonna be having

1372
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 5: early mornings, late late nights. Die it's not gonna be great. Yeah,

1373
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 5: but then when you go back to January, you're almost

1374
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 5: starting over. But you said, like you could tell that

1375
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 5: you had you weren't starting back from zero if you

1376
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 5: felt like you were a little better off. Do you

1377
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 5: and this year or is it kind of the same

1378
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 5: goal to like hang on to a little bit more

1379
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 5: and continue to do that, And how has it changed?

1380
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 5: I guess you're you're hunting in general.

1381
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. You know, what I do

1382
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: is actually not what normal people do.

1383
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1384
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: It's I mean, yeah, before I was getting paid in

1385
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: one form or another to hunt, I was I would

1386
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: spend you know, like if I went four times out

1387
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: of state for three day trips or four or five

1388
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: day trips during the rut. I mean that's a total

1389
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: of what you know, like yeah, twenty days max. Probably right,

1390
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: I've hunt travel. I mean, so if I did that,

1391
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: that would be as much as I do. And that's like,

1392
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll do more than that in the month

1393
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: of November, you know. So I guess I guess what

1394
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like for me, it's probably actually harder

1395
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: to stay in shape than for the normal guy because

1396
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: he gets right back on a schedule pre week, you

1397
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean for.

1398
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: Five day trip maybe, I mean almost like we have

1399
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: an app that could help you on the road.

1400
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: I like it so anyway, but yes, for me, it

1401
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: is like the the whole goal. Like when I came

1402
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: in to working out, and it was probably like early February.

1403
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: By the time I was able to actually get back

1404
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: to working out with my pastor friend, and I mean

1405
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: I had definitely lost like a ton. I was telling

1406
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 1: angela earlier that my so, I I never really took

1407
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: a whole lot of supplements in college or anything. We

1408
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: had muscle milk for free, you know, and all, yeah,

1409
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: so we we did a bunch of that or whatever,

1410
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: but that was I didn't even drink that a whole lot,

1411
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: you know. It kind of made my mouth feel weird.

1412
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: So like.

1413
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: And I also I really like once the second staff

1414
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: came in and I realized that like they were just

1415
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna put a bunch of freshmen in, I kind of

1416
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: like tempered down.

1417
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: I checked out.

1418
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: I was very much in maintenance mode. So uh but

1419
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean I was my sophomore year, was pretty strong.

1420
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: And in really good shape.

1421
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: And and this past summer I got really regular with

1422
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: my neighbor and I was also taking creating just a

1423
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: little bit.

1424
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and dude, I got huge.

1425
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean I was literally two thirty, and I was

1426
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: I was stronger on bench press upper body stuff, you know,

1427
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: not my legs, but I was stronger than I was

1428
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: in college.

1429
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: Really Yeah.

1430
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: And so I was like, but you know, that creating

1431
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: kind of I feel like it messes up my digestive

1432
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1433
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1434
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: So I was doing that again when I got back

1435
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: in in February. But I was like, I had lost

1436
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, you know, but I was nowhere near

1437
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: when I started the year before.

1438
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: You built that hedge up a little bit, so then

1439
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 3: it knocks you down a little bit, but it's at least, yeah,

1440
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: better than before.

1441
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: I keep building that sure.

1442
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: And I told and another another reason my bench was

1443
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: so high, As I told my my buddy, I said,

1444
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: I want to build shoulders because I was starting to

1445
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: feel a little bit of something here. I ended up

1446
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: separating or doing something in college. They a little bit

1447
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: laser therapy on me in a game after a game

1448
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: for a few weeks. And but anyway, so I was,

1449
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: I was, you know, shoulder stuff was important.

1450
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: To me because bow hunting.

1451
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just knew that, like what really scares

1452
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: me now is letting down like in the yard and stuff,

1453
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: because I don't have any like adrenaline or anything going,

1454
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, like in the woods, I can let down

1455
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: and now I'd never even feel it, but I can

1456
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: kind of feel a little something in the yard. I'm like,

1457
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: if I draw back and my my side is rolled

1458
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: down to like sixty, I'm just like, okay, I'm gonna well, yeah.

1459
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm gonna let down.

1460
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: Figure this out.

1461
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1462
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: I hope I don't lose this arrow, you know, I

1463
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: think I can get some more free ones.

1464
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: You try to try shoot and win. The bison's behind

1465
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 4: the backdrop.

1466
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: Back here, you'll go to drawing, one of those bison

1467
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: will just walk out right behind that target. If you're

1468
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: at like seventy yard, you know, like thirty or forty,

1469
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: it's not that big of a deal. Yeah, But sixty

1470
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: or seventy You're.

1471
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: Like, okay, I'm something here, yeah yeah, so but yeah, anyway,

1472
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: my my platform or whatever you say, what did you

1473
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: call it, the edge or what it was, built us

1474
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: much better this year, and I saw like now I'm back.

1475
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 1: I mean I started like early February and it didn't

1476
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: take but like probably six.

1477
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: Weeks to get almost almost back to where I was

1478
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: in the last summer.

1479
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gain it back really quick. It's it's almost surprising,

1480
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 5: like dang, I like I felt like I was so

1481
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 5: out of shape and then just a few weeks you're like, oh,

1482
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 5: I'm kind of back where I was at.

1483
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that muscle memory, muscle memory is whatever it could.

1484
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: There is some type of that in there.

1485
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 5: But well, dude, yeah, so just trying to use try

1486
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 5: to like use your story to kind of push Basically

1487
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 5: what you're saying is exactly what we're trying to take.

1488
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 5: Exact was like, yeah, try to do what you can.

1489
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 5: We understand the goal is to hunt for fall. They're

1490
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 5: kind of into the winter. The goal is to be hunting. Like,

1491
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 5: we understand that your goal. Most people's goal is to

1492
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 5: like train super hard at that time, but we want that.

1493
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: We want to elevate where your fitness is at going

1494
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 5: into the season every year so you can when you

1495
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 5: get back and like you said, it only takes a

1496
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 5: few weeks to build it back. Yeah, once you're getting

1497
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 5: into the rhythm again, is difficult. Once you do get

1498
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 5: in that rhythm, you're like, Okay, I'm not I ain't

1499
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 5: really lose that much.

1500
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: Yes, the rhythm was the hardest part.

1501
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: Of the whole thing is like just going I mean

1502
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: after getting up and spending so much time. Like another

1503
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: thing that is different about what we do than the

1504
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: normal hunter is like we tell when we get interns

1505
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: and stuff, we tell them and everything's relative. Man, Like

1506
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know this probably very both of y'all do.

1507
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: Like if the hardest thing you've ever done is cut

1508
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: your fingernail too short, and I can tell you how

1509
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: hard this is going to be, but you don't know,

1510
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: just like, oh yeah, I can deal with it. If

1511
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: you had never held a job, you probably are not

1512
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: going to do well with us, you know, but if

1513
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: you were like a Green Beret, then.

1514
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: You probably will be. Okay, you, that's not a big deal.

1515
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1516
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: I used to staying up late, getting up early, so

1517
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, but that is something that we do that's

1518
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: very much different. Like every time one of my friends

1519
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: wants to hunt with us, going to hunt with us,

1520
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, yeah, it's cool, but just know,

1521
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: like there's no midday naps, Like we just don't do that.

1522
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, every once in a while, I bet you,

1523
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: I bet you I took one nap this year the

1524
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: whole season.

1525
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: I can't do it. Either.

1526
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: Really, I can't. I almost can't ever fall asleep. I

1527
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: did fall asleep the one time I took a nap

1528
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: this year, which was in Arkansas late season December. But

1529
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: one thing, one thing that's weird about mid day for

1530
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: me is I think that, like when there's light coming through,

1531
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: I have like lucid dreams and I feel like I'm

1532
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: the last person on earth, and it's like a ninary

1533
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: that I have all to day.

1534
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't.

1535
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: Want to you don't want to be the last person

1536
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: on no, but it's yeah, it's definitely it's different. So

1537
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll hunt, We'll get up at like four,

1538
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: and I mean there are days when it's like nine

1539
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: o'clock and I haven't even I mean, this sounds bad.

1540
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I've dated my wife and known her since I was thirteen,

1541
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: so forever, right, But there are days when I literally

1542
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: get to like eight or nine o'clock and I'm like, oh,

1543
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: I might should call my life.

1544
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: But there are days that I literally don't call her.

1545
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's just that that's how busy we are.

1546
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Because yeah, there's other aspects to it, with dropping footage

1547
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff that we got to manage.

1548
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, like there's people that want to real or

1549
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: short in the middle of the day during hunting season

1550
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: because as they know, it's gonna have good run and.

1551
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: All this stuff.

1552
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: So it's very it's it's different, and I think that

1553
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: like for for a more normal person that hunts, I

1554
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: would say that, like what you're saying makes so much sense.

1555
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: Man, like you do, you won't even.

1556
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: Lose that much, you know, like you you would only

1557
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: have to just make sure that after a week of

1558
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: hunting or whatever, when you come back, you just get

1559
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: right back to try to get right back.

1560
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, dude, come back anytime.

1561
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: I've had a good time man.

1562
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 4: For me, you know with family stuff, but man, come

1563
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 4: back anytime.

1564
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, man o, thank you, thank you, thank you

1565
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: all