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Speaker 1: think it's about eighteen thousand dollars eighteen nine hundred comes in. Okay,

435
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Speaker 1: let me give you my defense attorney hat here all

436
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Speaker 1: of those facts. If I am her defense attorney in

437
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Speaker 1: a Northern Virginia courtroom, here is what I am going

438
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Speaker 1: to say about this. And again I'm not saying that

439
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Speaker 1: this is my argument. I'm saying, pretend you're a jury

440
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Speaker 1: and I am defending the Tisha James, and pretend the

441
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Speaker 1: jury is made up seventy percent of Trump haters, thirty

442
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Speaker 1: percent maybe of Trump voters. That might not even be

443
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Speaker 1: an exaggeration, but let's say it's seventy thirty. In other words,

444
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Speaker 1: you know, there's twelve jurors.

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Speaker 2: Let's say eight of them are Kamala voters and four

446
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Speaker 2: of them are Trump voters just to roughly kind of

447
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: lay it out there. Do you think twelve jurors are

448
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: going to convict if her defense buck which I think

449
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 2: it would be, is when I bought this house, I

450
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: intended to use it as a secondary residence to get

451
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Speaker 2: away from the stress of New York City. You Virginians

452
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Speaker 2: know how great of an area in Norfolk is, how

453
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Speaker 2: amazing it is to be able to get away. Then

454
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Speaker 2: I had some nieces and family members who were destitute

455
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Speaker 2: and out on the street, and I decided, because I

456
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Speaker 2: had comparatively more that I allowed them to move in.

457
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Speaker 2: I wasn't ever planning this, but I just wanted to

458
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Speaker 2: extend the hand as a an aunt to family members

459
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Speaker 2: that needed help. And now they're trying to prosecute me

460
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Speaker 2: for this. If I could go back and redo the mortgage,

461
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: I would change it to be more accurate. But life

462
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: happens and we adjusted on the fly. This is not intentional.

463
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Speaker 2: They're coming after me because of my politics. Would eight

464
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Speaker 2: Kamala voters vote to convict if that is her defense. No,

465
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Speaker 2: I think that she's Look, she's got Abby Lowell as

466
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Speaker 2: a defense attorney. I don't think he's even My guess is,

467
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Speaker 2: he's probably not even gonna charge her. He's the kind

468
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Speaker 2: of lawyer who usually gets correct mid to high six

469
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: figure retainer and gets paid one thousand dollars an hour.

470
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Speaker 2: That's what a white collar defense attorney, a top one.

471
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Speaker 2: I've known some of them in New York. I have

472
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Speaker 2: a friend who did this. That's what they make, you know,

473
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: they say, you know, you got to give me a

474
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Speaker 2: quarter of a million or a half a million dollar

475
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Speaker 2: retainer and then one thousand dollars an hour. So because

476
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: criminal defense clients, as you may well understand, are not

477
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Speaker 2: great about paying bills, so usually you're like, you better

478
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Speaker 2: give me a big retainer because I'm not going to

479
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: be trying to track you down if you get convicted

480
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Speaker 2: to get paid.

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Speaker 1: So that's the way that works doing white collar defense.

482
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Speaker 1: You know, stock stuff frauds, things like that, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: healthcare fraud. You generally are dealing with clientele that have

484
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Speaker 1: some assets, especially on the Wall Street side of things

485
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: with insider trading. So that's where the high dollar white

486
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Speaker 1: collar defense attorney's come into play. Okay, so she's got

487
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Speaker 1: top tier legal defense. You raise a very good point

488
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Speaker 1: about the comp I've thought that all along Look, we've

489
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Speaker 1: told everybody don't expect a conviction here. Okay, that doesn't

490
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Speaker 1: mean it won't happen, and we're not trying to. I

491
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Speaker 1: can't make a judgment one or the other. I'm not

492
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Speaker 1: on this jury. I don't know. But it's not a

493
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Speaker 1: slam dunk. And to Clay's point about that, it's a

494
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Speaker 1: grand niece, by the way, Yeah, here though is the

495
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Speaker 1: Here is the additional component of this. The reports that

496
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Speaker 1: are out that her grand niece has been living rent

497
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Speaker 1: free with her children there, and there are reports that

498
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Speaker 1: she the grand niece is a fugitive from North Carolina

499
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Speaker 1: and has vile probation and still has a bench warrant

500
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: out for her. That's what the reporting is as I

501
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: have seen it as of this morning. So the one

502
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: thing that's you know, you're right, it's going to be

503
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: I was trying to help my family. You know, it

504
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: was a rental property. I just gave it to them gratis.

505
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: But then of course that undermines the risk factors that

506
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: go into the loan process. But still there might be

507
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a tugging on the heartstrings there. But

508
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: the fleeing fugitive thing maybe a little that may be

509
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of also a problem just because you're

510
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Speaker 1: the attorney general for the state of New York, and

511
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: people might not want to cut you as much slack for,

512
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 1: you know, playing around the edge here a bit when

513
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: you're doing this for somebody that's also a convicted felon

514
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: or might be a convicted felon.

515
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: Let me also give you a counter argument. I just

516
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: gave you what I think the defense attorney case argument

517
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: partly will be. I believe this house, correct me if

518
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. Crew, I believe it was one hundred and

519
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: thirty seven thousand dollars. That is the Norfolk. And I

520
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: know I sometimes screw up the pronunciation.

521
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: There is it? Nor?

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Speaker 2: I don't I want to avoid the curseword, but I

523
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: feel like I'm supposed to pronounce it like it's a

524
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: curseword at the end, right.

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Speaker 1: Nor. I'm not even gonna say it because I get

526
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: in trouble.

527
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: So you guys in the in the in that area,

528
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: let me know how I'm supposed to pronounce it. But

529
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: how many people do you think buy a secondary home

530
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: in this neighborhood? I looked it up where a house

531
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: costs one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars. In other words,

532
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: most people who buy second homes, it's your wealthy and

533
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: you are getting away from wherever you may live. You

534
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: go to a lake, you go to a beach, you

535
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: go to the mountains, and you're paying a decent amount

536
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: of money for that second home. I think the reality

537
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: is she bought this home intending for these grand nieces

538
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: or whatever they are relation to her to be able

539
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: to live there. I think she actually intentionally lied. So

540
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: I think the challenge on this is if you're buying

541
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: a second home and you are Letitia James, and I

542
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: think she has like a six hundred thousand dollars seven

543
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars place in the New York City area.

544
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Speaker 2: Based on looking at the images of this house, it's

545
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: not like she bought a farm in a rural area

546
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: where it's different. This is like not that nice of

547
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: a neighborhood in that this area of Virginia. I think

548
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: she bought it intending to put her family members in

549
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: this home. So I think she did lie. Now she

550
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: may defend herself by saying I thought I was gonna

551
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: go kick it in Virginia and sit on the porch

552
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: and sip, you know, sip drinks on.

553
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Speaker 1: She's gonna claim that it was a change it was

554
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: a change in status that occurred after the loan, and

555
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: that that that's the best defense she has.

556
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, if you actually look at the facts,

557
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: if she had bought some riverfront property that's beautiful view,

558
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: or she had bought some farm, why.

559
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: Would you buy this as a second as a second property?

560
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: Most people don't buy second properties my point on this,

561
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: that are infinitely worse than their primary property. You don't

562
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: want to go to vacation or at least not a

563
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: different kind of place, right Like, most people aren't buying

564
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: second homes to go live in a home that's far

565
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: worse than the home that they live in. Now, most

566
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: people don't buy second homes. They're not wealthy enough to

567
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: do it, understood, But this was not. She was buying

568
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: this for her family. I think she intentionally lied. Now,

569
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Speaker 2: I think she'll defend herself by saying, oh, I didn't

570
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: know my family was going to end up in these

571
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: dire straits here, But I think the facts actually don't

572
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: support that argument.

573
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Speaker 1: Well, this is like the old man rule that I've

574
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: instituted at least for myself, which is, if I'm going

575
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: to travel somewhere for like leisure, the bed has to

576
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: be about as comfortable as my current bed or else.

577
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to go like I used to do.

578
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I used to rough it, man. I used to stay

579
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I would go to like when I

580
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: was a college kid. I would stay in places where

581
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean, heck, places where I wasn't even sure my

582
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: stuff was going to be there the next morning when

583
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: I woke up, right, I mean, that was just the

584
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: reality of it. Now that I'm an old man, I'm like, what,

585
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: what's the what's the thread count? Is it quiet? Will they?

586
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: Will they leave me? Leave me alone until at least

587
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: ten am? Like I am very different rules now for vacation.

588
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, I will just point out, and all of you

589
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: hikers out there are going to get angry at me.

590
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: The wilderness has houses and hotels near it.

591
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't mind, Like that's great. Clay's going after you

592
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: campers out there. Clay is a city.

593
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Is a city, kid, not even like I'm fine, Like

594
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: I'll go on a hike, I will go, uh go canoeing,

595
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: I will go. I'm not really that excited about putting

596
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: up a tent and sleeping on the ground.

597
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Now, I we are. We are very sympatico on this one.

598
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: And I grew up doing that because my dad liked

599
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: to do it and I did not like sleeping on

600
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: the ground. I like beds. I like beds, like refrigerators.

601
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Air has air conditioning every wilderness, and not necessarily in itself.

602
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: There's always a place to sleep where you can still

603
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: experience the wild. And so I am a let's go,

604
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: let's experience the wild, but then let's return to a bed.

605
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: You know, humanity has evolved so that we do not

606
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: have to sleep on the floors.

607
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Speaker 1: And I think we just we both like we both

608
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: like glamping, and about half of our audience right now

609
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: is pulling our man cards. So I think that just happened.

610
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: I think we both were on temporary man card restriction

611
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: here on the show Clay because we see out of

612
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: eye on this one. I am not I don't want

613
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: to go anywhere where people are like you might get

614
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: eaten by the wildlife too bad, you know you're visiting them.

615
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm I'm not into that. I want to

616
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: at least be able to get in my car and leave.

617
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: In fact, we had dinner with your dad recently and

618
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: you and your brother were talking about being abandoned in

619
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: the in the wilds of Alaska when we have on

620
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: a trip.

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Speaker 1: The grizzly bears all around us, and they're like, we

622
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: may not be able to get you guys out. You

623
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: might have to sleep here. We had nothing. We're just

624
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: going to sleep on the river bank overnight because we

625
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: got dropped in by helicopter and the helicopter couldn't retrieve

626
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: us and we were freezing and had no food. That

627
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: was a quote vacation okay, ten years ago. That was

628
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: my vacation by bears in the middle of the night. Boys.

629
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Speaker 1: My dad, by the way, loves that stuff. He's like,

630
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: you never feel is alive is when you think you're

631
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: going to lose the battle with mother nature. Like he

632
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: loves that stuff.

633
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: I have no insuest hikers and campers are right now

634
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: just furiously uh from there. We're going to get julled

635
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: up in these emails and talkbacks.

636
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: But we just love it. I mean, we'll be safe,

637
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: We'll be safe and warm while you guys are out

638
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: on the trail.

639
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I mean some of you still want

640
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: to sleep in caves. That's not my thing, you know, like,

641
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: oh look it's a great cave. It's try there might

642
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: be a bear in there. I'll just stay at a hotel.

643
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not on the radio prepping for the show.

644
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm busy working on other projects, including a really exciting one,

645
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646
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647
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648
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649
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Speaker 2: A lot of campers coming at us, A lot of

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Speaker 2: hikers coming at us.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're gonna be throwing their gross freeze dried

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Speaker 2: But we have a ton of reactions. We'll get into

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Speaker 2: some of these in the third hour.

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Speaker 1: But I do think.

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Speaker 2: What started all of this was the discussion of Leticia James,

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Speaker 2: and I wanted to mention this and we may dive

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Speaker 2: into it at some point in the third hour. Eric

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Speaker 2: Trump gonna join us at the top of the next hour.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't underrate what Lindsay Halligan has pulled off here.

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Speaker 2: She is the thirty six year old that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: put in charge of all of this area of Virginia.

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Speaker 2: She has now gotten James Comey indicted, and she's gotten

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Speaker 2: Leticia James indict.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how these cases go. Clay indicting at Ham Sandwich.

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Speaker 1: As we know, we got Kyle and Anchorage, Alaska. By

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Speaker 1: the way, an Anchorage native who I think has something

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Speaker 4: Hi, Yes, Kyle here from Anchorage. I want to let

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Speaker 4: you guys know someone that lives in a last loves

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Speaker 4: the outdoors, love spending time in the outdoors. I want

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Speaker 4: to affirm your position though. I'm someone that will hike

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Speaker 4: starting at six am all throughout to midnight, but I

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Speaker 4: will make it a priority that I will get a

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Speaker 1: Kyle, always call a smart man a smart man.

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Speaker 2: Just civilize. I mean, this is what we did. We

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Speaker 2: we evolved to not have to sleep on the ground.

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Speaker 2: You can experience nature's unificence that I pronounced that correct,

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Speaker 2: the incredible aspects of nature without needing to sleep on dirt.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, this guy doesn't sleep on dirt.

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Speaker 2: Eric Trump, he'll tell us about his new best selling book,