WEBVTT - BILLY RAY CYRUS & FIREROSE 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:08.560 You know, over the years, I've taken thousands upon thousands 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:13.039 upon thousands of phone calls and listen to so many 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:17.560 of my listeners. Stories. They've been. Stories of celebration, stories 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:24.720 of joy, stories of surprise babies, bonfires, job promotions, stories 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:30.400 of graduations or adoptions, of new home purchases, stories of 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:36.400 four legged fur babies and gardens and glory and kitchen conquest. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:41.519 Stories of love, stories of lost, stories of broken hearts. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:48.239 Lots and lots and lots of broken hearts. Achy Breaky Hearts. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:55.120 But nobody, no body, I mean nobody knows about Achy 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.640 Breaky Hearts better than one of today's guests on Love 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.760 some One. Throughout his three decade career, Billy Ray Cyrus, 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:09.319 King of the Akey Breaky Heart, has achieved global success 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.199 as a singer, a songwriter, and actor, of producer of philanthropist. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.920 He's established himself as a household name across multiple areas 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:23.400 of the entertainment landscape, including music, television, theater, and more, 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:28.640 winning Grammys and multiple awards from Billboard Magazine, Hip Hop, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.679 the Country Music Association, American Music, Canadian Music, and more. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:38.360 While Achy Breaky Heart went multi platinum, Billy Ray followed 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.360 up with back to back hits like it could Have 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:47.000 been Me, She's Not Crying Anymore and the anthem Some 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:52.800 Gave All. He's never stopped creating new music, bending genres 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:57.880 and stealing hearts in the process. Last year he had 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:02.760 the huge worldwide bash Old Town Road, and most recently 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.080 with new on the scene Fire Rose and their single 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:11.760 New Day. It's sort of a dreamy, ethereal song of hope, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.280 a song of perseverance, perfect for the times we're living in. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.680 The duo wrote and recorded it together, apart they were 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.960 not actually in the same room together, not even in 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.920 the same state together when it was released this past summer. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.840 Now Fire Rose as a young woman born and raised 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:34.040 in Australia. She moved from Sydney to Los Angeles when 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.000 she was nineteen. Since then, she has performed regularly, gaining 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.040 a loyal following of passionate fans, as well as respect 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:47.400 and recognition within the music industry. Fire Rose is a storyteller, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:53.520 and she infuses her soulful vocals with unforgettable melodies and 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:58.320 fiercely personal lyrics. We're going to catch up without legendary 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.360 Billy Ray Cyrus and the Lovely talented fire Rose just 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.639 as soon as I've paid a little tribute to one 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:10.000 of my superstar sponsors that makes this podcast possible. This 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.600 podcast is sponsored by Better Help, a company set up 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.720 to help people. It's not a crisis line or self 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.080 help group, but a group of professionals who provide counseling 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.360 that's done securely online. 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Slash love Someone That's b E T T 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:18.680 E r h E LP dot com slash love Someone. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.400 Over one million people have taken charge of their mental 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:28.080 health with Better Help. Billy Ray fire Rose, Welcome aboard. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.480 I am so glad that you are here with us. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:37.839 You amazing human being. Honestly, you are great, great, great humanitarian. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.240 You have been such a light in this world. And 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.560 it's an auto. If you heard me screeching at my 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.200 kids five minutes ago, you wouldn't be saying those nice things. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:52.279 Billy Ray, Oh my gosh. This is the summer that never, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:58.320 and it just goes on and on. My friend, I have, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.120 I'm so blessed. I have, of um, a lot of kids, 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.159 and a lot of those kids are older than you. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:11.960 Fire Rose, and I have a lot of kids. So 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.120 between my husband and I we have twenty children and 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:21.160 twenty three grandchildren. No, and with you know, the shutdowns 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.400 and all the craziness going on in the world and 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:28.839 people working from home and people transitioning. Um, it became 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.760 Grandma Camp. This summer. I went to Grandma I love 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:41.719 Grandma Camp. Wow, and it was full. It's it's the 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:47.160 summer that never. And you know what I did a 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.640 few months ago, I went and bought myself a twenty 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:57.160 eight year old motor home. We have a big, big 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.159 land yacht motor home. It's like twenty old and I 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.000 call it my husband's man cave because that's where he 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:09.080 retreats to. When the grandkids are driving him nuts, he 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.760 just goes into the motor home. Um, but I can't 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:19.400 drive the thing. I mean, it's it's it's long. Um, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.039 I don't know how to drive the thing. So I 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:26.960 found this little classy It's basically a truck with a 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.960 little motor home built on the back of it. And 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.880 it says it sleeps six. But I've managed to get 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.760 eight grandkids in the thing. And so we we just 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.320 we just, you know, throw a watermelon in in the 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:45.719 motor home. It's stocked with really nutritious, nutritious lee Dnse 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:51.440 stuff like pop ramen and crackers, animal crackers, and we 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.039 go and after I finished this interview with you all today, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:07:04.360 that's what I'm doing. Yeah, you can come, fires please come. Yeah. Right, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.920 So let's talk about how did Billy ray Cyrus? How 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:12.080 did you meet Fire Rosen? How did New Day come about? Well, 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.040 I'll start with how did I meet this young lady? 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:19.200 And um, it was ten years ago on the set 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:25.080 A Hand of Montana, and I had this German shepherd 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.200 named Text and he was with me on every episode, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.000 every movie, everything Hannah Montana. He was with me from 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.600 the beginning, So was he your own personal dog or 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.120 was he a part of like the show and then 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.400 you hung out with him while you were there, and 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:45.640 then not I was his own personal human. I was 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.080 his human. I actually got him for therapy for me, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.760 but quite frankly, I he kind of needed me and 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.680 I needed him, and we were really just partners. And 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.720 he went with me everywhere, whether I was tour and 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.840 playing music or doing show, and he just lay in 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.440 my dressing room and he was kind of he was 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.080 a special little guy, and we had a ritual like 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.480 usually about three or four o'clock in the evening when 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.040 they take a break. Um, there was one tree on 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.680 the whole lot. It's the old lot where they you know, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.520 where they film My Love Lucy Gallant. Is it called 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.720 Gallon Studios by Rose the name of that st Yeah, yeah, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.880 where kt l A is now and they used to 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.880 film Lucy there, and um, so in the front was 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:36.080 pretty nostalgic sunset boulevard kind of it really felt like Hollywood. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.520 But there was one tree, like a pine tree, one tree. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.319 The rest were palm trees, but this pine tree had 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.439 a coolness to it and there was grass underneath it. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.760 So tex and I would go out there and we'd 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.400 pretend we were in Tennessee for a moment, and I'd 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.360 sit and watch people and look at things, and he'd 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.360 take care business. And then we just sat there and 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.679 we were there. It was like the last season of 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:06.760 Hannah Montana and um Fire Rose came out. I guess 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.880 up an audition. Maybe you pick it up from there. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.480 She came out and had done an audition for a 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.320 different show, and she just had a glow about like 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.240 you know when you see a person that got a 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:22.560 light coming off, like a positivity of She just represented 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.360 a light like she had a It's almost like the 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:30.400 sun coming out of some positive like some purpose that 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:35.560 she had it. Sometimes they say, well, don't you know 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.800 that person had it and no one can ever define 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.439 what it is, but she had it, and she came out. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.240 I thought that girl has to be a star. And 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.600 oddly enough, she came out of there and came over 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.560 and asked if she could pet text. And that's you 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.040 take it from there. But that's kind of how we 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.720 ended up here. But first, like the people I was 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.400 coming out of the audition from did not I feel 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:05.520 that I had So Billy was smart enough to recognize 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:10.120 that you had it, but they weren't. You didn't get 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:14.680 the part. Oh no, I was a cranive rejection. Thomas 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.280 Attison said the most important ingredient for success is failure. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.559 Every time you fail, you eliminate one way that won't work, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.200 therefore being one way closer to the one way that well. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.600 I like, honestly, I just got so used to being 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:32.640 rejected that when any type of anything sembling success started, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.760 I was just in complete disbelief because I was like, no, 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.480 this isn't that how it works. I mean, I didn't 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.679 stop doing my thing. I didn't stopped writing music because 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.960 I couldn't physically not it's just my soul. But I 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:47.959 stopped having any idea that there was kind of a 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:53.680 you know, a day like today or the last few 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:58.960 months of anything anything close to that. I mean, we um, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.520 we get really used to sort of especially after years 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.600 and us of the same thing, and so Cirus amazingly 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.400 kind of talks about how the sister and I was. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.520 But I guess I still did my art, but I 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.280 never I guess I gave up some idea that it 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.360 was ever going to amount to anything. Where's tex By 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.640 the way, has God called text across the bridge, or 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.120 as texts in the other room. He went to the 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:27.760 other side and God bless me, and uh he came 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.480 back to another Gruman shepherd and we lived the next 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.920 ten years with a dog named Mate. And unfortunately Mate 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.960 passed away. You know, for every reaction, there's an opposite, 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.920 n equal reaction. And for as great as twenty nineteen was, 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.720 and Old Town Road being the number one song and 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.440 just you know, I mean, it was just unbelievable. Of 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.600 every reason I bought a guitar and started the band 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:58.480 was to move people through the music. Unfortunately, Mate got 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.839 sick and he chose that moment too. He left me. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.880 It was in the middle of the height of everything. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.400 I look back and think that he chose that moment 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.520 because he knew I was so busy that I wouldn't 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.720 just hang my head and sat somewhere in a corner 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.560 and grieve. And I became quite an actor. During the 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:22.840 height of Otown Road, I take the stage and have 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.200 everybody dancing and rocking out while in your heart you 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.360 just you just went through a massive loss. Yeah, and 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.000 I come back to that bus. He always stayed with 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.600 me on the bus. He had his own bump beside 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.040 me and I come back to the bus and he 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.960 wasn't there, and uh so it was it was again 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.960 like for everything good, there's something bad, and for everything 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.120 peak of a mountain, there's a valley somewhere and I 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.280 just had to deal with it. And here I am 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.800 low mold. Unless you've been through it, you can't describe 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.320 that loss. It's it's you know, and people are like, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.000 come on, get over it. It's a dog. I'm like 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:04.319 you clear Lee, I've never belonged to a dog, because 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.440 when when you are a dog's person and you belong 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:12.120 to them and they're your heart. H So yeah, I 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.679 get it. So now I got a little fella out 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.880 in my truck right now as we speak. I'm his 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.160 person now. His name is Tommy Jack. And in the 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.559 midst of my broken heart and all this, I kept saying, Okay, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.760 text mate, you gotta come back to me, You gotta 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.640 come back. And I just came in from a show 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.720 and the news came on and they had one little 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.640 dog that had three days before he was going to expire. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:38.000 He was on the news and I'm like, oh, my 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:42.160 goodne three days what who? Like, who does that who 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:46.760 says that who? And I'm he was rescued from abandoned 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:51.720 shack in Louisiana. They had had a flood, and so 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.000 is he a German shepherd found him in an attic. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:14:01.400 He's about ten different braids. He's he's a but he's 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.880 such a special Guy's name is Tommy Jack and he's 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:10.720 just a little special. He's actually a genius, but somewhat 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.720 like myself. We both have issues and we have kind 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.120 of found some common denominator and taking care of each 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.960 other and dealing with our own issues. And I take 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.840 him with me everywhere now too. And you thought you 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.320 were going to go rescue this dog who had you know, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.160 three days left, and and looking at your face even 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.920 when you say his name, that dog has rescued you. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:37.120 I think, I think so. I think you're right, You're 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.840 exactly right. And now you've got a new song. It's 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.840 a new day. Are you guys going to perform it 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.880 for me here? You understand this is now only the 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.920 fifth time we've ever played this song together. Under Now, 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.600 when you guys recorded it, you recorded it separately, right, Yeah, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.840 she was in California, I was in Tennessee. Zoom Pro 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.760 tools every I'm a their primitive. I used this thing 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:07.120 called a br which was probably invented, like I'm sure 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.640 Carl Perkins and Chuck Barry both had one like this. 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.160 This was a pretty primitive piece of gear that I've 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.120 had for a long time and kind of like my 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.400 motor hold school I kind of would maybe it might 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.560 have been he's really under selling it. It was the 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.880 foundation of nee day and how it got produced and 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.720 and creative because he'd send me a little clips and 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:32.800 I put it in my reg in l A and 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.480 we paced together the soul of the song through this. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.280 I would do my primitive Fred flint Stone recordings and 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.400 do my thing and kind of and then she would 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.320 take it. She's actually really broke, you know, as a musician, 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.280 as a producer, as a songwriter. She wrote the most 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.280 of this song and had the song finished. I just 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.160 I just loved the song and was a fan. I've 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.640 been a believer for a long time and and I 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.960 respected the fact that she persisted she wouldn't give up 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.000 on her dream. And here it was like ten years 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.200 later and she was still believing and still doing it 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.520 for the love of the music, not you know, not 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.240 for any other reason than she's just a natural born talent, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.040 and she produced the record. She would take my little 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.840 scratches of stuff and take them to the studio and 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.440 they come back sounding like all crisp and shiny and 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.880 like they've been to some kind of reborn factory, and 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.760 like she's really she's she's really a talent. You were 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.280 handing me like diamonds that just needed a tiny bit 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.720 of dusting, and then they were diamonds and I just 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.640 slid them into the track and I was like, this 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.080 is amazing, Like keep on coming, keeping can you do 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.280 this bit? Like can you add a little bit of 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.240 electric guitar? And then you know, and yeah, it was. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.040 It was from the other side of the country, but 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.040 it worked, and it was it really was like a 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.800 message of the song that we were we were kind 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.880 of praying for this new day we all are right 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.720 now and we all are the mid Yeah, we thought 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:10.159 it was. It was the early spring and summer and 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.439 we're like writing the song and it's new days just 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.919 around the corner. So we all need the song. We 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.320 all need a new day, and let's let's share it 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:32.600 with the world. Okay, it's a new day, it's a 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:43.320 new day. It's a new day, in between, in in between, 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:59.880 going so in July. But what it's well green, oh 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:06.200 along to take it. It's see when I saw your face, 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:14.080 the lorda different cha. It took me too, just just 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:26.560 stop and it's been killing them pas moving again. I'm breathing, 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:33.520 knock again, and it's you every day and it's any day. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:46.480 It's any day, it's any day. This is way become 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:55.600 under son so typely, oh so low. For long it 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:06.120 was always it's not a question, little lesson and apprehension. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:11.080 When I saw your face, the hold on differnt change, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:17.240 she took me to my hot She inspired my fat 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:29.359 and it's been killing that move no breathing, no again. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:37.280 It's a neat day, and it's a neat day. It's 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:44.000 a new day. It's a new day. Where I saw 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:50.879 your face, hold on diffront change took me to my heart. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:20:01.440 She didn't spied my fing and it's been calling. I'm 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:17.160 reading and it's a day. It's a day's day. It's 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:29.960 a day a surrender. I remember all all that you 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:37.600 have given for this love I've taken. In between getting 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:48.240 in between, going by, beautiful, beautiful, thank you. I think 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:53.240 everybody who listens probably has a different emotional connection or 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:57.840 emotional takeaway. When when you wrote it, when you sing it, 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:04.320 what what comes to your heart? That's such a good question. 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:10.720 She wrote the most of it. So the truth is, 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.639 when I originally wrote the demo, which I wrote on 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.560 my phone, UM, about five years ago, it came to 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.600 me in a moment of the deepest darkness that I've 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.920 ever been. I was in a really bad place in 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:31.960 my in my life and struggling actually to survive. I 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:37.080 was dealing with some heavy issues and it was like 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.840 a prayer of light that kind of came to me, um, 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:47.800 and somehow the melody in those words and uh the way, 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.280 I don't know where music comes from, but if i'm 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.560 if I'm fortunate enough to grab it when it comes 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.359 in the air and through my brain and get it 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.159 into something that I can then UM have with me. 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.399 And I grabbed it, and I kept listening to it 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.000 over and over again, and I guess just brought me 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.640 some semblance of hope that there was a new day 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.440 on the horizon, and thank god there was for me, 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.399 and I'm phenomenally grateful for that. But it was looking 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:17.639 pretty bleak for a few years, so I was in 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.639 such a different place. But the world, um, we all 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.560 collectively were in a kind of this dark place together 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.960 where we couldn't reach out and touch her loved ones 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:31.399 or even you know, be around people, which is just 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:33.880 selling out. I don't think any of us could have fathomed. 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.000 And as soon as it happened, it was like, oh, well, 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.240 if I had needed a new day, I can only 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.240 imagine the world needs a new day. And that's sort 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:47.440 of what I feel when I'm thinking it. We definitely 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:53.840 need a new day. So, Billy, where where where was 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.800 your heart your head when you listened? And what did 0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:00.159 it speak to you? And what do you want? I mean, 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.240 I know everybody wants whoever is listening to a song, 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.840 at least most artists, to take from what they need. 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.560 You know, take what you need and and let that 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.920 resonate in you. But was there something in particular that 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.240 you felt or connected to, like like for me, it's 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:20.040 my baby's faces and my grand babies faces, and and 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.640 that that the line about when I saw your face. Yeah, 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.119 I feel like I should make up some really deep story, 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.080 but I think I'm just gonna tell you the um 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:37.440 we had, Uh, we lost contact for years and she 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.640 went on her journey of life. I went on mine, 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:45.720 and but one thing stayed consistent was I never changed 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:50.399 to my email address. My email was fat faced. My 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.800 face is the first thing it usually gets bad on me. 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:55.800 And I named my first email I ever had fat faced, 0:23:56.400 --> 0:24:02.280 and never changed and long behold, I I get this email, 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.280 like towards the end of twenty nineteen, No one's then. 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.960 I'm just I'm celebrating. It's been a great year. And 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:14.359 everybody that old country road, the old tam road, Yeah, boy, 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:19.280 and yeah. And looking forward, I was nominated for some 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.639 Grammys and looking forward to January was the Grammys in 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.080 l A. And that's the thing. And she sent me 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.640 a song, a different song, and I thought, wow, man, 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:33.159 she still had it. She's. She persisted, she didn't give up, 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.600 and actually, like listen her recordings, she evolved. She's. You know, 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:42.200 success is the progressive realization of worthy ideas or goals, 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:46.480 not necessarily the attainment of them. And I said, man, she's. 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:48.280 And so I wrote it back and I said, I 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.680 love this song. She made a little video, a little 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.920 cartoon are all running, And I said, that kind of 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.359 reminds me of the girl that I'm at. It's running 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.240 girl and this little I'm looking at it. I said, hey, 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.679 you know what I was this is really good. Um, 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.680 I said, have you ever thought I sometimes I just 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.760 get feelings about things. I don't have a whole lot 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:13.280 of talent. I just go on those would no, no, no, 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.639 I just go on emotions and feelings. I get feelings 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:22.639 about things. And I heard this voice inside telling myself 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.000 to tell her, said have you ever heard of a 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.440 song called Delta Don? And she wrote back and said, 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.080 I'm looking it up right and now, so she checks 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.080 out the song. She goes, I love this song. I 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:34.679 love it. What would you do to it? I said, well, 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.280 I just make it you, you know, introduce it to 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.639 a whole new generation. And and and that's the one thing. 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.040 I added A little place for a guitar solo. It 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.600 never really had a solo. And I said, just get 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.480 one of your rock and roll friends out there to 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:52.680 blister an eighties rock guitar solo in the middle of 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:59.560 this and theymic storyline country song of Delta Don. Well, 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.760 not only did she say I'm gonna do it, she 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.440 did it, and she executed it to perfection. And like 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.240 three weeks later, she sent me this track that just 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:13.080 totally just kick my ass, and I was like, holy crap. 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.960 And it's impressive. A lot of people say they're going 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.240 to do something and they never do it, but it's 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.399 impressive when somebody says, hey, that's a good idea, I'm 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.120 gonna do it, and then they do it and I go, wow, 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.720 she killed it. So I'm coming out to the Grammys 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.600 in l A on January. I'm in Tennessee at the time. Okay, 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.280 I'm coming out. I'll come sing Delta don because before 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:37.959 she cut it, she said, if you'll cut it, if 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.480 you'll sing out it, I'm gonna go cut it. And 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:43.040 she killed it. So I'm going to l A. I'm 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.760 gonna be there. I'll come in and sing. And I 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.480 loved what she did. And I get out there long behold, 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.400 Grammy's happened. Blah blah blah. Here it comes to pandemic. 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.440 I leave the Grammys and pretty much they shut the 0:26:55.520 --> 0:27:00.600 lights off and locked the door and everything was shut down. 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.040 I did one more show. I did one show with 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.840 Neil Diamond in Las Vegas and the next day I 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.680 barely met I flew out and that day they closed 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.639 everything and that was the last show I did. And 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.080 then so I didn't want to think I was just 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.440 flaking out, and I didn't. So I wrote it and said, I, 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.560 you know, obviously I didn't make it, and the pandemic 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:29.760 set in and it's locked down, and her being the 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.520