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Speaker 1: Welcome back to fish Bites. Miami Marlins coverage brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the fish Stripes podcast. I Eli Susman Am

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Speaker 1: the managing editor of fish Stripes. Lots of content for

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Speaker 1: you to check out. On the main side, we are

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Speaker 1: on Yasie Pleague watch now that there's reportedly some mutual

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Speaker 1: interest between he and the Marlins. Pleague won't be the

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Speaker 1: Cuban Savior or anything close, just a thrilling player and unique,

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Speaker 1: check out my monthly payroll update at breaking down what

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Speaker 1: Miami's spending projects to be next season, how that compares

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Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen, and how you should feel about it.

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Speaker 1: fish stripes dot com this Thursday, the twenty twenty preseason

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Speaker 1: Top thirty Prospects list. The Marlins farm system is better

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Speaker 1: now than at any other point in my fish Stripe's tenure,

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Speaker 1: insight and player highlights in cooperation with the rest of

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Speaker 1: my staff at fish Stripes. That is Thursday, December nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: updating the top prospects list. At the recently concluded MLB

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Speaker 1: Winter Meetings, the Marlins reached a deal with right handed

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Speaker 1: reliever Jimmy Garcia, still unofficial as of this recording. They

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Speaker 1: selected right hand er Stirling Sharp from the Nationals organization

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Speaker 1: during the Rule five draft, as well as catcher Julian

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Speaker 1: They've been linked to Pueag and a handful of other

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Speaker 1: experienced outfielders, mostly available via free agency, but even a

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Speaker 1: few trade candidates as other teams inquired out several of

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Speaker 1: their controllable starting pitchers. To analyze it all, arm Leyden

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Speaker 1: spoke to Sun Sentinel Marlins beat reporter Wells Dousonberry, a

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Speaker 1: returning guest to the pod. He was in San Diego

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Speaker 1: for the Winter meetings, and he'll be continuing coverage of

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Speaker 1: the team throughout the rest of the off season and beyond.

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Speaker 1: So listen up as arm and Wells discussed the state

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Speaker 1: of the Fish, and then I'll return for a final

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Speaker 1: segment featuring comments from you the listeners grading the off

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Speaker 1: season activity so far. Buckle Up.

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Speaker 2: Fish Bites Podcast. I'm Arum Layton alongside Wells Dousonberry, the

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Speaker 2: Marlin Sunsetinel Beat reporter. Wells, I know you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: a little bit jet lax, so thank you for joining

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Speaker 2: us from after the winter meetings. It was an eventful week,

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Speaker 2: not really for the Marlins as much, but how was

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Speaker 2: it your second winter meeting? How did it go?

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Speaker 3: It was good? Yeah, you mentioned another West coast swing,

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Speaker 3: so definitely a little bit of jet like there. Winner

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Speaker 3: meetings are definitely pretty busy, not a ton of sleep,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, as you mentioned, man as a whole for

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball is pretty wild. When you have Cole,

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Speaker 3: Strasbourg and Rendon all signed the Marlins, you know, a

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Speaker 3: eventful this year as a whole with the winter meetings.

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Speaker 3: But still, you know a lot of stuff will cease

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Speaker 3: still to come.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of things I want to touch on.

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Speaker 2: You've been covering a lot obviously. This is a really

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Speaker 2: crazy busy time with the Marlins. A lot of speculation,

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Speaker 2: They added a couple of pitchers, one through the Rule

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Speaker 3: I think there were, you know, good starting moves for

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Speaker 2: And you heard some rumblings during the winter meetings about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the question ultimately roll the Marlins if

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Speaker 3: you know, you look at it right now and if

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Speaker 3: you look at kind of some estimates on what teams,

431
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: I think Tampa Bay Rays are probably the most comparable

432
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: for them when you look in terms of this aside

433
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 3: from being owned by the same parent company with they

434
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 3: have Fox Sports Sun deal and the Marlins have Fox

435
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 3: Sports Florida. Is that you know, they're in a slightly

436
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: bigger market with Campus Saint Pete and they got around

437
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: you know, what I've heard is around fifty five million,

438
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: although nothing is spending a reported solient allay on that.

439
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: That's the figure that I've heard is about fifty five

440
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: million annually. I think that's something that would probably, you know,

441
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: be around what the Marlins would get. The Kansas City

442
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: Royals got reportedly around forty eight to fifty two. That

443
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: was the numbers I think MLB dot Com reported when

444
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: it happened late in the season, and they're in a

445
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: little bit of a smaller market size, so I think

446
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: if you kind of use those as kind of like guidelines,

447
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 3: I think the Marlins are probably going to be in

448
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: that area. Of course, you know, maybe a tire maybe

449
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: we'll see, But I mean I would say that's probably

450
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: a loose kind of you know, guideline of where that

451
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: would be, and that's going to be massive for this team,

452
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: and that'll these contracts are usually it depends usually ten years,

453
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: some tenth a little bit more. So you get a

454
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: deal like that and then that instantly provides I mean

455
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 3: you're looking at, you know, potentially at least thirty more,

456
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 3: fifty or forty more million dollars than you're getting. So

457
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 3: you think immediately, all right, this is our budget right now,

458
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: this is the xmut of money we have, and then

459
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: you add forty million to that. That's pretty substantial in

460
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: terms of especially when you look at what some guys

461
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 3: are getting and yeah, there won't be a coal or

462
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: anyone like that, but you can definitely make a lot

463
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 3: more damage than you can right now when you add

464
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: stuff like that. And then you know, naming rights for

465
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: the stadium, that's something a little less annually, but then

466
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: that's another you know, that's more money, whether that's in

467
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: that five to ten million dollar range per year that

468
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: you know, you add all those things up and Miami

469
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: definitely has a lot of room to grow financially, although

470
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: it'll obviously never be you know, a major market in

471
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: terms of like the Yankees or the Red Sox bring

472
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: in cash, they definitely have room to improve.

473
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 2: And for people that might not understand, you know totally

474
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: how it works with negotiating these TV deals and stuff

475
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: like that, how soon could you expect the new TV

476
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: deal to be reached between Fox Sports and the Marlins.

477
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 2: Are they going to potentially try and leverage other stations

478
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: which is probably unlikely that they leave, but could you

479
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: see that happening, and how big is this season in

480
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 2: terms of what kind of ratings they put up on

481
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: for television for that new deal coming up.

482
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: I think ratings it's one of those things that's interesting

483
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: where like those probably are not going to be as

484
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: important in terms of that like so for example, just

485
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: look in terms of a lot of things that are

486
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 3: bigger kind of like market size, which are in the

487
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: potential you know, pool of audience growth. Like so, for example,

488
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: if you look at someone like the San Diego Padres,

489
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: their ratings on up seventy two percent last year and

490
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: that was in part you know, they signed Main Machado,

491
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 3: they got you know, Tatis and Paddock up there, so

492
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 3: rate and you look at other teams, the Twins had

493
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 3: the second highest growth, and the Twins had a you know,

494
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 3: plus twenty win differential and won the Al Central. So

495
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: you know, the longest short is that ratings will go

496
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: up when teams win and when they sign free age

497
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: and when they add exciting pieces there. So I guess

498
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: that's a way of saying, say the Marlins right now,

499
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: the ratings are not going to be super high or

500
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: improved if they don't do any of those things. So

501
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: say you agree, if the ratings are low right now,

502
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: and they agree to a deal for that, in two years,

503
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: ratings could go up significantly. Say the Marlins sign a

504
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: massive reagent and say they are winning a ton, the

505
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: ratings could be massively improved in a couple of years,

506
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: something which might not be a humongous factor. It's not

507
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: to say that they don't look at that stuff at all,

508
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: but that's something where that can change rapidly. It depends

509
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: if you win, and it depends if you get exciting names.

510
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: So I think it's more going to be determined on

511
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: a lot of other things like market size, and there's

512
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: a lot of other elements where they've been to go.

513
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: These deals are incredibly complex. They've been doing this for

514
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: about two years negotiating this contract, and they've had a

515
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: little bit of leeway because the deal doesn't expire until

516
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: the end of next year, so there hasn't been as

517
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: much pressure. But you look at when you're signing a

518
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: ten year deal and like, who knows what TV is

519
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: going to look like in ten years or five years

520
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 3: from now. You even look back five years ago and

521
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: the way we all kind of consume TV, Like a

522
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: lot of people just don't have cable anymore. A lot

523
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: of people are watching streaming, whether it's like Roku or

524
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: PlayStation view or Hulu, and what's that going to be

525
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: in five years from now or three years from now?

526
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: It might be radically different. So you have to negotiate

527
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 3: ten years and essentially ten years out and you have

528
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: to kind of predict a little bit of what's this

529
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 3: going to look like, and you have to put all

530
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: sorts of different like contingencies in terms of there and say, well,

531
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: if this happens, if this X, what's the revenue going

532
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: to be, if there's some new stream that we're not

533
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: even like sure of right now comes about. So the

534
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: long way put it is that there's so many complex

535
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: issues in there. And that doesn't even get into gambling,

536
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: which is going to be a major fatt two and

537
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: that's going to be a pan doors box. I know

538
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: that that's another thing they're going to look at as well.

539
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 3: So I think those are kind of the key elements

540
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 3: on there. I don't think ratings for this season will

541
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: really have too much of an impact on what the

542
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: TV deal is. I think they're focused done kind of

543
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: a lot of those other elements and kind of hammering

544
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: up like those kind of the inner kind of details

545
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: and what the future for how they're going to structure it, and.

546
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: For going into this season now talking about some of

547
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: the players that might end up making it getting the

548
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: call up to get an opportunity to show what they

549
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: have in the big leagues, and the Marlins have an

550
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: opportunity now to see what they have moving forward. A

551
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: lot of prospects are getting there, especially some of the

552
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: outfield bats. Monte Harrison's knocking on the door. You have

553
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: Yesu Sanchez who's knocking on the door, and you got

554
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: a guy like Lewis Brinton who it's probably his last

555
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: chance to prove something. What do you think going into

556
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: this year, what kind of role is Lewis Brinton going

557
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: to have? And then after that, if he's not able

558
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: to you know, pan out, which seems incredibly likely unfortunately,

559
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: is it going to be that kind of situation where

560
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: Monty gets a chance and they see if he's ready,

561
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: and if he's not ready, then maybe Hayesus Sanchez gets

562
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: an opportunity. How do you think they're going to handle

563
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: that surplus of out major league ready outfielders that they

564
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: have knocking on the door.

565
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: I think with Louis Princeton it's pretty much up to

566
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: him at this point, and that you know, if Lewis

567
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: Princeton performs and turns the corner, then the Marvels will say, hey,

568
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: we've got a nice guy in terms of here. But

569
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: if Brinson you know, has the same results as before,

570
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: then I think it's something where they're going to start

571
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: to move on. I mean, I think that you know,

572
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: Michael Hill and Don Maddingley have essentially kind of said

573
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: the same thing, maybe not you know, in its blunt terms,

574
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: but they've pretty much said essentially the subtext is you know,

575
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: this is you know, it's kind of the last chance

576
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 3: right here. So I think a lot of that is

577
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: determined on how well Louis Brinston does. If he's hitting,

578
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: then that will change things. But if he's not, then

579
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: I think you look at yeah, Monte, Harrison and Hasey.

580
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: I think there's also there's no need to rush them yet,

581
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: even though they're getting very close. I think they'll take

582
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: at least you know, you don't need to get them,

583
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: and they're not This team isn't competing this year, so

584
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: I would make sure let's not move them up too quickly,

585
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: and whether that means a month, two months, and then

586
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: I think they'll bring them up and you'll we'll see,

587
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: you know, what happens. But I think, you know, with

588
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: Monte and Hayesus, it will depend on, yeah, what guys

589
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: kind of what guys look ready, you know, first, and

590
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: which guys are ready to move on up on here.

591
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: And I don't think they'll rush it. If they Brinson

592
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: comes out of the shoot and it's like really really struggling,

593
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't think they'll say, well, let's get Monte up

594
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: here immediately if they do not feel he is ready

595
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: at least, or at least they should not. They should

596
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: only be calling Monte and Haysius up when they are

597
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: one hundred percent sure that these guys are ready to roll,

598
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: because it's not going to be a competing year. And

599
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: then you know, whether that means they're playing Magnar Sierra,

600
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: you know, Harold Ramirez and some of those other kind

601
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: of spots. Then I think, you know, that's fine for

602
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: the first you know, a couple of months, but then yeah,

603
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: I think you'll see Monte and Hayesus and then those two,

604
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: those two are part of the core future of this

605
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: where it'll be interesting where Harold and Magnaris, you know,

606
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: they might we'll see what happens in terms of there.

607
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: They might be guys that get a little bit muscled out,

608
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: you know, if you know, Monte and Hasu's come up

609
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: and really just you know, tear the cover off the ball.

610
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: So I think those will be guys we see a

611
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: little bit more for that outfield fix. But having said that,

612
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: if they're not up here from day one, there will

613
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: be a little bit more opportunity for those you know,

614
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: Princeton's Magnaris, Harold where it's like, you know, here's the

615
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: opportunity right now, and like you kind of got to

616
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: seize it from the beginning because you have to know

617
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: that other guys are coming up.

618
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: And that's just that's the really nice change that the

619
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: Marlins have. I think before, you know, the last couple

620
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: of years, they didn't really have an opportunity to say, Okay,

621
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: we've got people knocking on the door, you better figure

622
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: it out. If you don't, we're on to the next one.

623
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: Whereas before it seemed like they just had to throw

624
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Brinton out there and just leave him out there to

625
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: struggle because they didn't really have anybody to replace him with,

626
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: and I mean Harold Ramirez ended up being a diamond

627
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: in the rough. It took some of the pressure off

628
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: of the Marlins outfield, but in general, it seemed like

629
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: they didn't really have a backup plan and Brentson was

630
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: just out there to struggle. And it seems like this

631
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: is the first year where the Marlins have a little

632
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: bit of opportunity here to say, Okay, you're not working.

633
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: We got another guy that can get an opportunity, and

634
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: even another guy after that. So that's been a little

635
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: bit refreshing to see for the Marlins coming into this year.

636
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: One other question I can ask you what the team

637
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: upcoming this year is Brian Anderson. So he's looks like

638
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: he gets better every year defensively and offensively, and he

639
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: seems like one of the franchise cornerstones. He doesn't have.

640
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: He has a couple more years of control, but he's

641
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: a guy you want to lock up, probably sooner rather

642
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: than later. Could you see an extension with Anderson in

643
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: the next couple of years or even this year in

644
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: a type of deal where the one with Christian Yelich

645
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: where they locked him up before he really broke out.

646
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: I think they should. It's something I don't think they've

647
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: shown a ton of you know, urgency to do right now.

648
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: But I think for a lot of the reasons, like

649
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: you said, I think that makes a lot of sense.

650
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: And I think maybe this year is you know, a

651
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: key one. I mean he's shown it for the past

652
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: two years of that production. You know, it's been really strong.

653
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: We saw the power numbers, you know, really move up

654
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: a lot last year. I mean, if he didn't get

655
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: hit in the hand at the end of last season.

656
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: He's a guy who may have gone twenty five home

657
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: run this forty doubles and been in that mix right there,

658
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: and as someone who can play really gold Glove caliber

659
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: defense at you know, both third and right field, and

660
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: someone who can shuffle like one position to the other

661
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: and not have any lapses, like that's incredibly valuable. And

662
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: what he brings to the table. And he's one of

663
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: those guys he grinds, you know, he's really tough, he hustles,

664
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: he's a good I think he's someone that just really

665
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: fits the mold for that kind of extent. I don't

666
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: know determines, I don't know what the numbers would be

667
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: hypothetically if you did that, but I think it would

668
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. And you know, he's someone

669
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: who has proven absolutely and maybe one of the few

670
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: so far or maybe I mean in the line up

671
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: and maybe the only one or two who have said

672
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: this is definitely definitely a piece, you know, that we

673
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: could count on for a championship run, someone who could

674
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: start on you know, teams across the league. So I

675
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: think that would make sense. Maybe I think it might

676
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: depend a little bit more if he shows replicates what

677
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: he did last year again and even maybe improves it,

678
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: then I think maybe that puts a little bit more

679
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: kind of emphasis and urging maybe for the marrow and say, hey,

680
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: let's do this. I know he has four years of control,

681
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: so maybe they don't think we need to do this immediately,

682
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: but as a team that's low revenue, I think that like,

683
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: if you've got a guy here and you know that

684
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: you can be pretty confident with him going forward, I

685
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: would think locking that piece up would be key. And

686
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: I think it would send a very good message to

687
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: the fan base as well, because, for better or worse,

688
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: the reputation and the perception of this team over the past,

689
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 3: you know, twenty five years. And this is the entire

690
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: of the franchise is that it's cheap and that it

691
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: lets goes, It lets its top players go when they

692
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: become too expensive, and that's for the entire franchise. So

693
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: that's you know, multiple ownership groups. And I think that

694
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: that's a lot. That's the thing that keeps a lot

695
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 3: of people away from at Bay from being Marlins fans

696
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: are wanting to come back. Is that that fear and

697
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: that you know, non financial commitment. And I think the

698
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: Marlins doing something what a I think it makes sense

699
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: from a playing financial standpoint to do that, but I

700
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: think it would also be pretty good to send that

701
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: message to the fan base. You're entering newyear three and

702
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: you have a lot and while they've done a ton

703
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 3: of very things to rebuild the franchise, ultimately they've lost

704
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: you know, two hundred and three games the past two years,

705
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: and for fans who might not be following the minor

706
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: leagues or a lot of those other things as closely,

707
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: I think that's sending that is kind of a good

708
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: message for this franchise to the stand base as well.

709
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: But of course I will see what happens, and I

710
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: think a lot of it will be determined by what

711
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: kind of his season is again this year, of.

712
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: Course, and that's the thing, you know, you look at

713
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: the moves that they've made with the minor leagues and

714
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: some of their prospects. So like fans that really follow

715
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: the team have have been really encouraged by that. But

716
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: the Marlins also have to appeal to the casual fan,

717
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: and especially in Miami where you have a lot of

718
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: fair weather fans. To be totally candid, you've got to

719
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: be able to do those things that people can see

720
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: on the outside, you know, consistent faces and things like

721
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: that that really won't bring people back in as an

722
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: excellent point. So before I let you go, I got

723
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: one last question for you. I'm going to put you

724
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Speaker 2: on the spot here. Free agency. Obviously, it's one of

725
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: the few situations where we can say the Marlins are

726
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: definitely going to add somebody, whether it's free agency or trade.

727
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: In terms of bullpen arms and an outfield bat. I'll

728
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: just put you on the spot for the outfield bat.

729
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: If you had to put your all your marbles in

730
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: one place right now, who do you think the Marlins

731
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Speaker 2: end up picking up. I know it's a.

732
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Speaker 3: Crash shoot, but it's tough. I mean, I could predict

733
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: and guests on here, but at this point it would

734
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Speaker 3: be a guest. So I want to be careful and

735
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: not saying, you know, like I want to be careful

736
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: in saying that. But I think that mentioned. Yes, it's

737
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: a oh of course, it's a cop out answer. I'm

738
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: not just having that right now. You know, I think,

739
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: you know, for the guys who have been mentioned, whether

740
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: it's you know, we Garcia, Dickerson, Garcia, I mean, I

741
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: think that those are ones that definitely are candidates on here.

742
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: So I don't know what I'm making prediction. I'm reticent

743
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 3: of making you as a reporter.

744
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: How about who do you prefer? Who do you think

745
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: fits in the best on the team?

746
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: I think that one then, I mean you look on there,

747
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: I mean sorry, I mean as Garcia and you know,

748
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: they both have their own elements on there. I think

749
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: having a lefty bad on there. Even though Mike Hill

750
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: said it's not the ultimately the end of the day,

751
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: you don't have to have a lefty on there, I

752
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: think that that definitely, you know, brings a lot of

753
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: help into the left he said, you know, it's the

754
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: kind of thing where it's as long as they're splits,

755
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: we're fine with, you know, even if it's a righty

756
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: or a lefty. But I think you look at someone

757
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: like a Cole Calhoun might be someone who might be

758
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: interesting as someone who has that kind of power and hit.

759
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, he's a thirty plus home run guy last year.

760
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: In the last year, he might be an interesting one.

761
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 3: But again, I think that as long as they're getting

762
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: one of those four or an outfielder that's an upgrade,

763
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing regardless for this lineup.

764
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: I think Calhoun's a guy that can really defend well

765
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: in that cavernous outfield, even though they are bringing the

766
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: walls in as another thing we I forgot to ask

767
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: you about, but that's something that should be good for

768
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: the offense down their road. Yeah, so thank you wells.

769
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the season. Thank you for all

770
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: the coverage from the winter meetings. We'll keep up with

771
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: you on Twitter of course, it's Dues Report, right, Dusse

772
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: Report on Twitter and anywhere else that fans can keep

773
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: up with you.

774
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 3: No, that's for the main part that in Sunseentinel dot Com.

775
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: So those two avenues.

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00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: Perfect so well, thank you so much. Well as looking

777
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: forward to the season and hopefully it'll be a little

778
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: bit better one this year.

779
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully we'll see going forward.

780
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Speaker 1: It used to be that the MLD Winter Meetings represented

781
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: the climax to the offseason, where we'd see every team

782
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: get involved with moves and when the dust settled heading

783
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: into the holidays, teams would have a very clear idea

784
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: of what their rosters would look like heading into the

785
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: upcoming season. That has especially not been the case the

786
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Speaker 1: previous few years, when the Winter Meetings were a dud,

787
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: and this year much different, very exciting. All several of

788
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: the biggest names came off the board, Garrett Cole, Steven Strasburg,

789
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: Anthony Rendon, all of them setting records, setting contracts and

790
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: for free agents at their positions, and that being said,

791
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: it still feels more like a midpoint of the offseason

792
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: than a climax to it. There are still dozens of

793
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: free agents out there that are in the primes of

794
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: their careers or very close to it, and especially on

795
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: the trade front, a lot of teams have players that

796
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: are awkward fits for their current situations, either because of

797
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: their salaries or their controllable years or their positions. A

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00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: lot of teams have players that you expect to be

799
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: moves over the next couple months. The Marlins included. They

800
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Speaker 1: have guys that may be expendable on their pitching staff

801
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: and others needs that they have offensively to bring in.

802
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: So there's still a lot of room to go, a

803
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: lot of changes that are going to be made between

804
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: now and spring training. With that in mind, I flooded

805
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: a question to our audience on Twitter at fist Stripes,

806
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: how would you grade the team's offseason so far? Acknowledging

807
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: that there are additions expected to be made to boith

808
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: the outfields and the bullpen. This is not the final

809
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: pri but it's been a handful of moves stretched out

810
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: over the past month or so, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: them have been interesting. So I wanted to check into

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00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: how the fans are feeling about it with a letter

813
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: grade and some comments to go along with it. If

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Speaker 1: you responded to that question, I committed to including you

815
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: in this segment. Just about everybody that offered a coherent

816
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: response to that question is included in this segment. As

817
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Speaker 1: we've just run through a variety of perspectives on what

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00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: the team has done so far and what you'd like

819
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: to see them do the rest of this offseason. Danny Martinez.

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Speaker 1: He's still around on Twitter at Danny m underscore Mia

821
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Speaker 1: and his response is a B plus thus far, vr

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Speaker 1: aguilar editions are solid acquisitions, being that I literally targeted Sterling,

823
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: Sharp and gim me Garcia as arms i'd pursue. Obviously

824
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: like it there one bat either. Dickerson, Pleague, cold Calhoun

825
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: aves el Garcia away from being an a in his

826
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Speaker 1: mind if you've voted anything less at me and defend

827
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: that grade. So he makes He calls out all these

828
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: single additions as being helpful and nice fits to what

829
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: the team is doing, and I think he's aligned with

830
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: almost everybody else that they still need another bat to

831
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Speaker 1: make this successful. The outfields has a lot of internal options,

832
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: but all of them have very mixed or limited track

833
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: records at the major league level. The names that he

834
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: throws out there, Corey, Dickerson, Puigue, Calhoun, obviously el Garcia,

835
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: all those have been credibly linked to the Marlins, and

836
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: Marlins are expressing interest in all those the various degrees

837
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: in free agency, and that's certainly a possibility for them.

838
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: In these upcoming weeks. Next up, Arturo Gamez agreed one

839
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Speaker 1: hundred percent with Danny, one power left bat and maybe

840
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: one more reliever and or a backup catcher like Cervelli,

841
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Francisco Cervelli, for example, and it will be in a

842
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: and he's I think he's spot on with the catcher

843
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: part of that as well as things currently project. You

844
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: have Jorge Alfaro, and the backup would be Chad Wallack,

845
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: who entered last season as the backup. He impressed a

846
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: lot over a very limited sample before getting hurt. He

847
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: suffered concussion, and he had several setbacks trying to rehab

848
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: that he never played in the majors over the final

849
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: four plus months of the twenty nineteen season. He's on

850
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: the roster now, him and Alfaro are the only catchers

851
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: on the Marlins forty menter roster, and I'm just not

852
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: sure what you can expect, considering that Wallack's track record

853
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: before last season was not very good, and concussions are frightening,

854
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: especially for catchers. They can be unpredictable to rehab from.

855
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: There's no guarantee he's going to get back to his

856
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: old form, and so I certainly endorse if they do

857
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: search for a veteran backup catcher to put on the

858
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: roster to compete with Wallack in spring training. I believe

859
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Walak still has a minor league option anyway, in case

860
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: he is healthy alongside another catcher, he doesn't necessarily have

861
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: to be on the major league roster. That's something to

862
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: look out for later in this offseason as well. Big

863
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: Fly Brye says Number one, he loves the podcast, Thank you, Bri.

864
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's his real name. Brian refers to

865
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Brian Anderson. But anyway, number two, I'll give it a

866
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: B grade. I've been overall satisfied. He mentions Sharp vr Agui,

867
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: lar Yimi Garcia. I do think if they go get

868
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: that corner outfielder, it's upgraded to a B plus a

869
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: minus grade for the off season. Next up, Julio. The

870
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: moves we've made have been great moves, aside from Tyrone

871
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: Guerrero would just like to see a little more going on.

872
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: So he's not alone with that either. With some questioning

873
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: about Tyrone Guerrero, who was squeezed off the roster because

874
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: Marlins did not have any open spots when they were

875
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: officially bringing in let's see who is the corresponding movie

876
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: yet for VR and Aguilar during that stretch of time,

877
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: they dfa Tyrone Guerrero, who was the hardest thrower in

878
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: baseball and obviously a very popular personality as well among

879
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: the fans and Marlins teammates. He simply wasn't performing well

880
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: in the Major's coming off the season where his era

881
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: andsfielder independent pitching both above six, and he missed some

882
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: time with some finger and hand issues. Certainly has more

883
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: potential to go, but he is going to be entering

884
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: his age twenty nine season as a below replacement level

885
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: pitcher in the majors. The Marlins were patient with him

886
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: and just simply couldn't crack the code. So he is

887
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: on the White Sox after being claimed off waivers, and

888
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: certainly somebody that we're going to be watching to see

889
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: if there's another team that can unlock his great potential.

890
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: Sam seventy one offers a pretty quick response, gives it

891
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: a B, but it could change to an A in

892
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: the future. Great thank you. Sam al d says it's incomplete.

893
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: I like the fences moved in. Does that count? And

894
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: I'd say that does count. Not a traditional baseball transaction,

895
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: but one that certainly affects how Marlins Park is going

896
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: to play this upcoming year. We've had some analysis on

897
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: the site about the fences, and truth be told, there's

898
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: only a handful of balls if you look back at

899
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: last season that I think would have been affected from

900
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Marlins batters, maybe three or four five extra home runs

901
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: and a couple other outs that may have been extra

902
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: bases because getting closer to the wall coming in seven

903
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: feet let's say seven feet in straightaway center field five

904
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: feet and right center field. That is still very much

905
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: in progress. So the Marlins made that announcement about the

906
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: fences at the same time that they mentioned the installation

907
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: of artificial turf. Both of those decisions are transitions are

908
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: still in progress, not complete yet, but certainly we'll be

909
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: within the next few months in time for opening day.

910
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Then we have Eddie Eddie are Puerto Rican Eddie, who

911
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: has a extended comment that I'm going to read in full.

912
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: He gives it a B grade. Pretty happy with the moves.

913
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: Picking up VR just seems like a good baseball move

914
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: to make and a no brainer, and I was pleasantly

915
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: surprised the Marlins thought so too. Would have liked Eric Thames,

916
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: but Jesus Aguilar for cheap to see if he can

917
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: hit with solid pickup two. I like the due diligence

918
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: I've been seeing at the winter meetings, and I hope

919
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: they land that corner outfielder they're looking for. Signing Gimmy Garcia,

920
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: who's a solid strike thrower in low leverage situations and

921
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: getting his arbitration year out of the deal is just

922
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: a smart move. Hopefully the long ball doesn't hurt him

923
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: in Marlins Park. Getting Sterling Sharp in the Rule five draft,

924
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: a groundball specialist, was also a good pickup. Very thorough there.

925
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Gimmy Garcia probably deserves a little more conversation here. He's

926
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: coming off the season where he allowed fifteen home runs

927
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: out of the bullpen for the Dodgers. That's just as

928
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: many as Waye and Chen did last year. To put

929
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: it in perspective. However, when he wasn't giving up home runs,

930
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: he was pitching really well. He's a guy that generally

931
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: is able to throw his pitches in the strike zone,

932
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: sometimes too much in the strike zone and right down

933
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: the middle. But he has a very nasty slider. He

934
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: has a great spin rate, on his fastball. So that's

935
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: a simple combination that works very well for some of

936
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: the elite relievers in baseball.

937
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 3: Garcia to Polanco with a three to two, he strikes

938
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: him out ninety six mile proor fastball, and the Pirates

939
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: strand two here in the fifth.

940
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: The Marlins are going to try to harness that, and

941
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: the extra arbitration year that Eddie refers to is important too.

942
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: If the Marlins are satisfied with what Garcia does in

943
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, they have the opportunity to tender him a

944
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: contract for twenty to twenty one. He can't. He wouldn't

945
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: necessarily be a free agent unless they non tender him again.

946
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: And assuming he's a guy that pitches as a non closer,

947
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: closers are really the one type of reliever that gets

948
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: paid handsomely in arbitration. Assuming Garcia works in any other

949
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: role in the Marlins bullpen, then he's going to be

950
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: pretty affordable next year no matter what. So it's all

951
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna come down to his performance. Certainly looks on paper

952
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be an upgrade over someone like Teyrone Guerrero.

953
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: Rob Newell, who you can find on Twitter at Rob

954
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: Marlins UK. He is all the way across the pond.

955
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: He gives this off season a B. The VR and

956
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: Agui lar sinnings showed real intense to give depth and

957
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: power to the batting lineup. Yimmy, looks like a bullpen upgrade.

958
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: Just need an experienced outfielder to replace Granderson, also with

959
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: like Holiday as backup catcher again. Otherwise, just let the

960
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: prospects progress, Thank you very much, Rob. And the sentiment

961
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: that I get is that Brian Holliday is probably not

962
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: in the cards for turning to the team last offseason.

963
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: He was a free agent and then resigned, but the

964
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: Marlins sent him down at Triple A, and then he

965
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: came back up, and then after the season the Marlin

966
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: ten opportunity to include him in their arbitration class, and

967
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: they they released him before he would have been eligible

968
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: to be tendered to contract. It just seems like the

969
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: Marlins are moving in a different direction for that position,

970
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: even though Holiday hit surprisingly well last year and seemed

971
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: to be well liked by the team. So a lot

972
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: of options still out there on the catcher market, and

973
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: I imagine they will be making some sort of move

974
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: at that position over the next couple months. Jeremiah Geger says,

975
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: I like the VR trade, but I feel it's incomplete

976
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: right now. We need another offensive piece. Amen, Jeremiah, I'm

977
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: all with you on that one. Robert World gives it

978
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: a B grade. It could be an A if we

979
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: get a lefty bat, echoing some of what several of

980
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: the other people have said already. Marlin's UK. That is

981
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Peter Pratt, who hosts the Fish Across the Ponds podcast.

982
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: He's a friend of our pod. Of course, VR trade

983
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: and a plus, he says. Overall, a B. Still work

984
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: to do in the pen and with some left handed pop.

985
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Rotella gives it a B, but it's kind of

986
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: nerve racking, says, having all these top prospects and you

987
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: keep waiting to hear they're trading them for thirty four

988
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: year old veteran near the end of their career. He's

989
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: of course having nightmares about Laura Era type of deals.

990
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: Based on reports so far, it doesn't seem like the

991
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Marlins are being approached that seriously about their prospects. It's

992
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: been more about the controllable pitchers such as Eliez or Hernandez,

993
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: san Diel Contra, Caleb Smith. Probably among those, Eliezer is

994
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: the one that you could see most likely being traded,

995
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: considering he hasn't quite established himself in the majors. There is,

996
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a surplus of outfield prospects in the organization.

997
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: If you just look at the team right now and

998
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: how they could potentially split them up among their minor

999
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: league affiliates. It's gonna be hard to get all these

1000
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: outfielders every day playing time next season, and that's without

1001
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: including any depth pieces that you might want to bring

1002
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: into your organization to fill it out. So I think

1003
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: that is something to watch for, certainly within the next year.

1004
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: So is the Marlins trading perhaps multiple outfield prospects once

1005
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: several of them established themselves in the majors, because they

1006
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: just have so many of them, and unless those players

1007
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: are going to change positions, they would probably be have

1008
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: more luck developing in other organizations and in return, the

1009
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: Marlins could address other positions, although that does not seem

1010
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: to be on the table at this very moment. Justin

1011
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: Klaber gives off season a bee. That's been a pretty

1012
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: popular response. If you look at the poll that we

1013
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: put out that certainly had the highest percentage of votes

1014
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: among all the letter grades. He says, the only thing

1015
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: keeping this from an A was in twenty nineteen, we

1016
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: traded Zach Gallen, and I might be wrong by field.

1017
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: Gallen was going to be the real deal. That trade

1018
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: blew my mind. Will time will tell, though, so he

1019
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: didn't really follow the prompt that much. I was just

1020
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: grading the off season. Gallen was traded on July thirty first.

1021
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: That is decidedly not the off season, and that should

1022
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: be kept separate from your evaluation process of course, or

1023
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: he's digging it up. And it was a very interesting trade.

1024
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Gallon going to the Arizona Diamondback straight up for jazz chism.

1025
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: Chisholm played a little winter ball this year in Puerto Rico.

1026
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: That's something that we've covered on fish Stripes dot com,

1027
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: and he did very well in Puerto Rico. He has

1028
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: since been pulled out and finished off for the year.

1029
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: So that was that is going to be a very

1030
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: interesting trade to play out. As a years ago, the

1031
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: Marlins gave out give up on They didn't give up

1032
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: on Gawn, but they sold high on Gallon after his

1033
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: initial MLB success, and he continued to pitch well in Arizona.

1034
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: The Marlins are betting on Chisholm putting his wonderful tools

1035
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: on display and becoming an impact player at a premium

1036
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: up the middle position. Justin Adam says, if they can

1037
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: pull one or two more solid moves, especially that left

1038
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: handed power bat we've heard that before, then I'll upgrade

1039
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: to an A. So he's in line with several others.

1040
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: Milton is going to be our final fan response to

1041
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: this question about grading the Marlins off season. I'll give

1042
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: them an F. Seriously, they want to improve, but doesn't

1043
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: seem like it. Losing the chance of getting Eddie Rosario

1044
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: for Pablo Lopez that was one particular rumor from the

1045
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: winter meetings, and not trying to sell, not trying at

1046
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: all to hit the free agency, just because they want

1047
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: to keep the spots for the prospects, not knowing they're

1048
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna not knowing how they are gonna develop in the majors.

1049
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: Milton is dissatisfied. He's among a very small percentage of

1050
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: the fans who gave the Marlins edit a D on

1051
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: F grade to the off season. I put it up

1052
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: there just in case somebody wanted to vote for I

1053
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: find it very hard to defend an F grade for

1054
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: the off season considering how little the Marlins have given up.

1055
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: And so I'm going to finish this off briefly with

1056
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: my own thoughts and also falling in line with a

1057
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: lot of the fans. I think it's a b off

1058
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: season so far. Not that I'm terribly wowed by any

1059
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: of the individual players that they've acquired, but they've just

1060
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: there's so low risk to all this at all. Most

1061
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: of the players that came off the Marlins payroll this

1062
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: past year and went into free agency were not productive

1063
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: last year, whether it was Martin Prado, Curtis Granderson, Neil Walker,

1064
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: and even when Brian Holiday go coming off the season

1065
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: where he did not perform well defensively by his usual standards,

1066
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: there were so little outgoing players, letting even on the

1067
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Speaker 1: relief side, Tyler Kinley, Tyrone Guerrero, both of them with

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Speaker 1: very serious issues throwing strikes and pretty deep into their

1069
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Speaker 1: professional careers and still haven't figured it out. So many

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00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: of the pieces that they've lost did not project the

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Speaker 1: significant contributors on any team moving forward. And yet the

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Speaker 1: players that they've brought in Haysius Aguilar, an All Star

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, who has just a wonderful reputation for

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00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: being a very energetic teammate and has shown the ability

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Speaker 1: to both handedness of pitching and play a surprisingly nimble

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Speaker 1: first base. Jonathan VR and Marlins got him a virtual

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Speaker 1: salary dump, just trading away of pitching prospect Easton Lucas,

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Speaker 1: getting VR a guy that they seem very confident can

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Speaker 1: play multiple positions and regardless, he can be such an

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00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: impactful player as a base stealer. That's what we mentioned

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Speaker 1: on a recent podcast episode, that he had so much

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Speaker 1: value with his legs and this past season unlocking newfounds

1083
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Speaker 1: power with his bat as well, hitting a lot of

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Speaker 1: balls even in the friendly confines of Camden Yards in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: a lot of those balls project to go out in

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Speaker 1: Marlins Park two, especially with the new dimensions, So he

1087
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Speaker 1: could be one of the best players on their team,

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Speaker 1: and they got him for basically a simple salary dump

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Speaker 1: on a one year, minimal risk contract through arbitration. Then

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Speaker 1: bringing up Immy Garcia. The raw stuff is really impressive

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Speaker 1: and he has more of a track record than some

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Speaker 1: of the relievers that they already let go in the

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Speaker 1: Rule five draft, picking up Sterling Sharp, who was one

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Speaker 1: of the more polished players available in the draft. The

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: Marls had the number three overall pick and they used

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Speaker 1: it on a guy that has a very strong possibility

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Speaker 1: of sticking on the roster this upcoming season, and then

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Speaker 1: that would put him under team control for a handful

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Speaker 1: of years beyond that. Sharp is a ground ball specialist

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Speaker 1: who throws a lot of strikes and he has it's

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00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: not really any luck. He has a lot of downward

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00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: movement on his fastball that makes difficult to square up,

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Speaker 1: and he has certainly the potential to translate that against

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Speaker 1: the highest level of competition. It seems like a very

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Speaker 1: low risk move, and all these seem like very low

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Speaker 1: risk moves, and in the process they have taken on

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Speaker 1: a significant amount of payroll between especially between VR and Aguilar.

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Speaker 1: We're still waiting on the details for Jimmy Garcia. It's

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Speaker 1: a great start, I would say to the season understanding

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Speaker 1: of they still have these glaring holes in the outfields

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Speaker 1: and in their bullpen. There are more quality arms they

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Speaker 1: want to add to that, especially for the beginning part

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Speaker 1: of the upcoming season. There's definitely some work to do,

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Speaker 1: and to be fair, they have been linked to a

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Speaker 1: lot of these available players that could potentially make them better.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see how it plays out, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are very curious too. Bank sure

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Speaker 1: to tune in to Fish Fights coming up next week

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Speaker 1: and every week here on the Fish Stripes podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: always a joy interacting with you guys. I enjoyed doing

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Speaker 1: this segment with your literal responses, and that's something that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna definitely have to circle back to later in

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Speaker 1: the off season. Go Fish