Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names.
Speaker 2: I'm Julli Gentleman, and we got a brand new compilation
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Speaker 3: Now. Corey Dillon on his inspirations at running back.
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Jim Brown, Jim Brown Ice film.
Speaker 4: Man, and that's who I wanted to be, like, you know,
Speaker 4: I watched a lot. It looked like, you know what,
Speaker 4: he get hit, he get up slow, you know, stumble
Speaker 4: back to the huddle and come back and run you
Speaker 4: over again. And it was just repeated. And I was
Speaker 4: just watching him all that film I was watching. He
Speaker 4: was big, strong, fast, and I'm like, hm, I'm going
Speaker 4: to try to pat my game after that. And then
Speaker 4: on top of that, you know, I grew up watching football,
Speaker 4: so it was like the Tony dor sets try to
Speaker 4: steal a little bit from him, the Eric Dickerson's they
Speaker 4: try to, Yeah, big guys, fast, take a little from him.
Speaker 4: Earl Campbell's, Walter Payton's Berry saying as I never could
Speaker 4: be like that. That dude is phenomenal. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: just used to watch the running back position and watch
Speaker 4: all these great running backs and then be like, hmm,
Speaker 4: I like that. I'm gonna take a little bit from there,
Speaker 4: take a little bit from there, and then you know
Speaker 4: what kind of form my own style, which my thing was,
Speaker 4: I call it my little bag. Like you know, I
Speaker 4: may start off the first two quarters running you over,
Speaker 4: setting you up. Next two quarters, I might try to
Speaker 4: dance around you and mix it up so or vice versa.
Speaker 4: You know, just depends on what kind of what they're
Speaker 4: giving me. Kind of worked out, it worked out pretty good.
Speaker 2: But you also you were always like really good, like
Speaker 2: the duo play, you know, duo or you have the
Speaker 2: two double teams and the running back really has to
Speaker 2: set that up.
Speaker 1: It's all vision, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And you can't be too early lead to the cut
Speaker 2: or the fucking the guy scrapes over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you explain that?
Speaker 4: I was real Well, we had this Jim Anderson running
Speaker 4: back coach for Cincinnati. This is what he preached to me.
Speaker 4: Constantly slow, too fast through meaning footwork and pressed the line,
Speaker 4: but at a pace where you could see the cuts.
Speaker 4: And that's that's all I really did. I never went
Speaker 4: full speed grabbing that ball. I was always on my
Speaker 4: footwork and a little patient enough where I pressed that
Speaker 4: line where I could see multiple cuts. And just by
Speaker 4: doing that alone, things that opened up, Like I could
Speaker 4: see the backside, see the defense over pursuing, and then
Speaker 4: you know what, as soon as I see that opening,
Speaker 4: that's when I explode through.
Speaker 3: Next up, Lorenzo Neil on the importance of running the
Speaker 3: ball in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Why was the nineties the best football?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 5: I think nineties people were vibing to try to I'll
Speaker 5: do the eighties because you knew in the eighties is
Speaker 5: just hard and the game was starting to change in
Speaker 5: nineties certain things, more people wearing knee braces or so.
Speaker 5: Nineties was just still the big safety. The guys that
Speaker 5: would still want to hit you. You know, Ronnie Lott was
Speaker 5: leaving and here comes Darius and here comes the John Lynch.
Speaker 6: You know, Doc be Doc, And it.
Speaker 5: Was like, okay, they looked up to those guys, and
Speaker 5: so you went through those transitions and then it's now
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, Troy's gone, Paulamo. So it's like what
Speaker 5: safety just brings fear like it used to be. You
Speaker 5: have a couple not even gonna say the guys still
Speaker 5: don't hit, They're still they're still going after but the
Speaker 5: game is it.
Speaker 1: Is different it's very different.
Speaker 2: But I think my personal opinion is when you like
Speaker 2: safety is now, you have to cover tight ends, right,
Speaker 2: you got to be able to play, you gotta, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, just because these these tight ends
Speaker 2: now are receivers a B. Safeties get money taken out
Speaker 2: of their pocket with big hits now, right, And ain't
Speaker 2: nobody get paid for how many knockout hits?
Speaker 4: You get?
Speaker 1: What do they get paid for? Interceptions?
Speaker 2: And these little kids have been farming that since these
Speaker 2: little seven on sevens that you get paid if you
Speaker 2: touch the ball TfL or I mean pbu's and picks,
Speaker 2: So they don't even go for the hit no more
Speaker 2: because you want to get the money. Like that's kind
Speaker 2: of like we're I that's kind of how because these
Speaker 2: guys are huge, fast, strong. It's a little smaller because
Speaker 2: they're faster as far as like linebackers. There's two hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty five pounds linebackers now. When I first got
Speaker 2: in the league, Ray Lewis was two sixty, right.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But he could move, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But like it's the game has just changed, it has,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And people want those stats
Speaker 2: because stats turn into dough.
Speaker 5: And when you look at the tight end position now Titans,
Speaker 5: most of the Titans, you want them, they're too They're
Speaker 5: too fast for line and too strong for safety because
Speaker 5: you you changed the game. You had safeties that used
Speaker 5: to be able to cover. But now these safeties are
Speaker 5: guys are too strong. This pound them, beat them up,
Speaker 5: so you got to double them. So there's certain things
Speaker 5: elements of the game that you have to compensate for
Speaker 5: because you have went with you know, more of the hybrids,
Speaker 5: because it's more sidelined the sideline because teams aren't patient
Speaker 5: enough to say, I'm a lineup and I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: right at you. And that's why when you look at
Speaker 5: November and December, teams that usually win usually can run
Speaker 5: the ball.
Speaker 1: Even the Patriots. When you got and we had James
Speaker 1: Devlin and he said, hello.
Speaker 5: Oh y'all, tell ja what up? And that's what made
Speaker 5: you got. Everyone thought, oh the Patriots got break. No,
Speaker 5: they knew that if you did, if you put eight
Speaker 5: nine in box, guess what you were going to hurt people.
Speaker 5: Walker was gonna hurt people when y'all had mosque and hurt.
Speaker 5: So it's like dare you so, you so and that,
Speaker 5: But when you run the ball. Corey Dill another guy
Speaker 5: blocked for in Cincinnati, tough get Downhill can run physical love.
Speaker 5: So you guys, everyone talks, No, this was not a
Speaker 5: finesse team. It was still physical and that when you
Speaker 5: can be two dimensional, you're hard out.
Speaker 1: It's tough out.
Speaker 2: And I mean you look at the last five six
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winners. I mean Philadelphia Eagles, they ran the
Speaker 2: shit out of the ball. They tried throwing it the
Speaker 2: first four weeks. It wasn't until the bye week that
Speaker 2: they said, hey, let's run the ball. We have the
Speaker 2: best running back in the league, we got a best
Speaker 2: line in the league, and then we'll set up our
Speaker 2: pass game through play action. You know, you look at
Speaker 2: you know the Rams when they won. They had Gurley,
Speaker 2: he was a stud and they had off the run game,
Speaker 2: right you know, everyone, we all fascinate to make this
Speaker 2: such a spread them and shred them game. But still
Speaker 2: fundamentally speaking, like the teams that run the ball, like
Speaker 2: you said late in the year, are the teams that go.
Speaker 1: On to win the Super Bowl. That was because you
Speaker 1: can control the game, control the game. Not the Niners
Speaker 1: were doing that.
Speaker 5: You know, a couple of years ago, when they had
Speaker 5: everything in place, they were still one of those teams
Speaker 5: hell against against the team that we're gonna watch new
Speaker 5: the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Bather.
Speaker 5: Remember they ran. They threw the ball eight times NFC Championship.
Speaker 5: I mean you only through the ball eight times, Jimmy
Speaker 5: g you know, eight passes. The rest was just run.
Speaker 5: When you can run the ball and just make teams
Speaker 5: quick because it checks your heart, you just got to
Speaker 5: be like man as a guy's four yards three yards
Speaker 5: and boom, first down, it just kills the momenttal yes,
Speaker 5: the moralize the defense and even.
Speaker 2: When you're the guy and the like, when you're on
Speaker 2: offense and a team is running the ball on you, it.
Speaker 1: Takes you out of your rhythm. Yep.
Speaker 2: It's like when you're sitting there on the sideline, you're
Speaker 2: going over your place for the next goddamn dry We
Speaker 2: got the third down, you get ready to the offense first. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they just got three yards. Oh we're up six yards? Right,
Speaker 2: how the fuck can we get out there? That part
Speaker 2: and that's what and that's you know it is. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you when you have a big explosion play touchdown,
Speaker 2: it's so damn quick. Sometimes you're like, man, we were
Speaker 2: just on offense. We got our fuel, let's go right.
Speaker 2: But it's funny, it's the game has definitely changed.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 2: What is the one thing that you what's like the
Speaker 2: one bit of advice that you give for the fullback,
Speaker 2: like if you're going to be the team, because that's
Speaker 2: a that's a badge of honor. Because if you're on
Speaker 2: the team and you're a fullback, like you ain't have
Speaker 2: no backup. You don't have a backup. You gotta know
Speaker 2: a lot of shit. It's like a mentality thing. My fullback,
Speaker 2: James Devlin, like the fullback was always like the first
Speaker 2: guy in the locker room, fucking smelling salt, swallly squat
Speaker 2: and like drinking cement for fucking breakfast, Like that's what.
Speaker 2: But that was his job, right he had to show that,
Speaker 2: like I'm part of the toughness team, and I am
Speaker 2: the toughness team. What's your advice for the fullback? The
Speaker 2: young fullback trying to come in and make his his
Speaker 2: way on a team.
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is walk lightly, but carry
Speaker 5: a heavy bat. I didn't to be anyone's friends I said,
Speaker 5: we just work together. I'm not your friend. We just
Speaker 5: work together. We got to you know, you can buy
Speaker 5: yourself some friends. You have to be mean, you have
Speaker 5: to be physical. You it fullback to My vice is
Speaker 5: like it's yeah, it's some technique to it, but it's like, guys,
Speaker 5: do not want to hit and head on when you
Speaker 5: see me coming and you see me, you have to
Speaker 5: make a decision. My advice to fullbacks if you want
Speaker 5: to make this game come back and fullbacks become an
Speaker 5: integral part of this game again, you have to be fearless.
Speaker 5: You have to run in there, whether it hurts or not,
Speaker 5: and say I'm going to win this battle. I'm talking
Speaker 5: about cutting the leg when you block, block up and through.
Speaker 5: If you're going head to head, when you hit, you dip,
Speaker 5: you lift, and you create a new line stre When
Speaker 5: you stell mate as a fullback, and you stell mat
Speaker 5: and the linebacker step you in a hole, you make
Speaker 5: the tailback now stop his feet. You have to say
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit you, I'm gonna stay lord, and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna push you out of the way. If you can
Speaker 5: push and get create a new line of scrimmage. Now
Speaker 5: you give the tail back a two way cut.
Speaker 6: That's what I knew.
Speaker 5: When I played full back, I could see the safety
Speaker 5: coming down, and I knew if the safety came down,
Speaker 5: he was playing force, trying to knock the linebacker and
Speaker 5: make it spill inside. I said, if you know that,
Speaker 5: if I could get to his inside shoulder, throw my
Speaker 5: head across. Now you have ladanian safety and linebackers playing
Speaker 5: air because you created that space. So it's about knowing
Speaker 5: your job, attention to details, and play the game physical.
Speaker 6: That's what right, you know what.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree one thousand percent more. I'm not a fullback,
Speaker 2: but I just always hung around fullbacks.
Speaker 1: And I remember when you.
Speaker 2: Know, James ended up fucking like having a neck problem,
Speaker 2: because that's what you have if you're a and I
Speaker 2: would explain to the new fullback, okay, that's this is
Speaker 2: going to happen. This is what you have. This has
Speaker 2: to happen for you to be a proper fullback. You
Speaker 2: have to have neck problems. You have to go in
Speaker 2: and literally look like you're you don't care about your body.
Speaker 2: You don't like that, and that's what it because you know,
Speaker 2: then we'd have some other new fullbacks come in they
Speaker 2: try to go with the chess fird, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, dude.
Speaker 3: Now Reggie Bush talks his iconic highlight runs.
Speaker 7: I think one of those runs was running NonStop for
Speaker 7: like two weeks on top ten plays, and so everybody
Speaker 7: you know remembered that play, but specifically about you know me.
Speaker 7: People thought I put the ball behind my back and
Speaker 7: it wasn't a predetermined move.
Speaker 6: It was just I actually had the ball in the
Speaker 6: wrong hand.
Speaker 7: So as you know, when you're running down the sideline outside,
Speaker 7: you got to have that ball on the outside hand
Speaker 7: and so you can stick f him exactly. And I
Speaker 7: did not have the ball on the outside hand. I
Speaker 7: had it on the inside. And I really when the
Speaker 7: ball is in my right hand and I got open field.
Speaker 7: That's that's where I'm comforting. That's why I'm really like
Speaker 7: getting I'm taking. So you're you're a right hand guy,
Speaker 7: right hand you know what's crazy.
Speaker 2: I was always I'm a right handed guy, but I
Speaker 2: was always a left ki because when I was a
Speaker 2: kid in Pop Warner, I was the four back and
Speaker 2: I'd always go to the left.
Speaker 1: So it trained me.
Speaker 2: I always use because I'd always use it to the
Speaker 2: outside of the hand because they're always getting in the head.
Speaker 2: So I was like an orthodox, but give me a no,
Speaker 2: you're good.
Speaker 7: And so what happened to me my senior year in
Speaker 7: high school. I broke my wrist. And I actually was
Speaker 7: catching a swing a swing route, and when I went
Speaker 7: to stiff arm the guy, he was already up on me.
Speaker 7: He was coming full speed and knocked my hand backwards
Speaker 7: and I broke this bone right here, the navicular scaffold,
Speaker 7: which is one of the bones that has like lowest
Speaker 7: blood supply. So but obviously I was young enough doctor
Speaker 7: put a cast on it. I played my entire football
Speaker 7: my senior year with a cast on my left wrist,
Speaker 7: I think remember, And so I heard that I wasn't
Speaker 7: necessarily comfortable yet back with carrying that ball on my
Speaker 7: left hand. So there are a lot of games you
Speaker 7: might see when I'm in college when I'm carrying the
Speaker 7: ball wrong again going down left side. But I got
Speaker 7: in the right hand because I just hadn't got gained
Speaker 7: that comfort level back with squeezing it and holding it tight,
Speaker 7: especially when you're fighting through traffic. And so again on
Speaker 7: this specific play though, when I'm running down the sideline.
Speaker 6: I'm literally trying to outrun the safety.
Speaker 7: And what happened earlier in the game, I had a
Speaker 7: touchdown where I actually outran him, same exact spot, almost identical.
Speaker 7: And so this second time, now I'm coming around and
Speaker 7: I peek out a corner of my eye and I
Speaker 7: see his head down and he's just.
Speaker 1: Like last time, I gotta go higher.
Speaker 7: I gotta go higher, exactly, And so he learned his lesson, right,
Speaker 7: So now he's going at a higher angle.
Speaker 6: He got his head down, he's digging.
Speaker 7: And so now I after peaking and I see that,
Speaker 7: I know I got to put my foot in the
Speaker 7: ground because I'm not gonna outrun him, and so I stopped.
Speaker 7: And he was close enough to me where if he
Speaker 7: actually reached his hand out, he probably could have hit
Speaker 7: the ball. And so so naturally, when somebody's that close
Speaker 7: to you, it's either you squeeze it or if you're.
Speaker 6: Trying to get busy, you just do something crazy.
Speaker 7: Right, That's what came out, you know, And that's and
Speaker 7: I think, you know, when we played the game, a
Speaker 7: lot of things and a lot of part of most
Speaker 7: of the game is really built on instincts.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying and instincts and.
Speaker 7: Vision, and so for me in that moment, it was
Speaker 7: all about instincts and vision, and I just my hand
Speaker 7: went back, I put my foot in the ground.
Speaker 6: I knew I was gonna stop in reverse. I just
Speaker 6: didn't know I was gonna put my hand.
Speaker 7: On the side behind my back like that with the
Speaker 7: ball and cut behind him. But and then outrun everyone
Speaker 7: and then out.
Speaker 1: Everybody next up.
Speaker 3: Brandon Bolden on the tight knit running back room.
Speaker 2: What was the legacy of the running backs room?
Speaker 1: I was the one.
Speaker 8: I was the one constant was I've been through everybody.
Speaker 8: I was there with Woody, Shane, rid lg Dion Guilessly,
Speaker 8: James White, Sony Michelle.
Speaker 6: We had like, uh uh even Jackson.
Speaker 8: You mentioned Stephen Jackson, Tyler Gaffney. We I and I've
Speaker 8: seen everybody, remindre Stevens and Damon Harris.
Speaker 1: I was there with everybody.
Speaker 6: Sexy Rexy, Uh I.
Speaker 1: See Damon on CBS. Yeah, Dames, Dames, Dames doing it.
Speaker 8: Dame's got his kid now too, so it's just like
Speaker 8: he's hilarious. But the running back room we always since
Speaker 8: I first got there, and Woody was kind of the
Speaker 8: one who started it. Bro, you don't have to do
Speaker 8: none of this ship by yourself. Like, I'll never forget
Speaker 8: that conversation me and him had. I was like, what
Speaker 8: you mean. He was like, if you don't remember the
Speaker 8: fucking plays, bro, look to the sideline, we're helping you.
Speaker 8: And it was like preseason. I think that was the
Speaker 8: last preseason game they had bought Jeff in because it
Speaker 8: was just me. It was me and Jeff, and that's
Speaker 8: when we started doing like the two backs and they
Speaker 8: called one play and I just knew I had the wheel.
Speaker 8: But then I look at Jeff and Jeff was like, no,
Speaker 8: I got the wheel. I was like, the fuck it?
Speaker 8: We both about to.
Speaker 6: Run the wheel.
Speaker 8: As I'm starting off on my wheel, I just see Shane.
Speaker 1: No you gotta Oh.
Speaker 8: So I'm running the route on the fucking numbers to
Speaker 8: the field and Tom threw the fucking ball the other way.
Speaker 6: I was so fucking happy.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what you had? Did you? No?
Speaker 1: And no, I got no clue. But that was the thing.
Speaker 8: And it was like from that point on, we always
Speaker 8: we tried to eat together.
Speaker 1: We want to hang out together.
Speaker 6: I want to know you, your mom, your girl, you.
Speaker 8: Got kids, bring the kids over, and we kept that
Speaker 8: running back room as tight. Like you remember you you
Speaker 8: didn't see one of us without.
Speaker 4: The other one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, always together, always now.
Speaker 3: Lashawn McCoy on what makes a great running back?
Speaker 9: The Bills, they still haven't had one thousand yard rusher.
Speaker 9: So my thing is, where is your real impact? If
Speaker 9: it's a good of a player, soon you leave the
Speaker 9: backup of the see ain't thing?
Speaker 4: Nah? How good are you? Really?
Speaker 1: Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But what if they let's go, But.
Speaker 2: What if the teams because they had such a dominant back,
Speaker 2: they were like running the ball. They had such the
Speaker 2: offense was built around the running back.
Speaker 6: Great, great question, and.
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden they could just couldn't win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. They couldn't get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So they're like, fuck it, we're gonna we're getting rid
Speaker 2: of running back. We already had that insane running back.
Speaker 2: We want to we gotta we gotta evolve to what
Speaker 2: everyone else is that Maybe that someone could say that.
Speaker 9: Sort of coats So I told you that. I don't
Speaker 9: know if you heard me. They had Peyton Manning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So when we go into the game, who who.
Speaker 9: Do you think we trying to stop? You can be
Speaker 9: about to pack the line of scrimmage up to stop esmen, James.
Speaker 9: Are we gonna stop pay Maine in that passing game?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Make him one dimensional?
Speaker 6: He stopped the run?
Speaker 9: Noways okay, all right, Well if you think that that's cool,
Speaker 9: I just got It's everything comes off the run, whether
Speaker 9: you have one or not, I mean depends on I mean,
Speaker 9: I hear that. But then like there's some things that
Speaker 9: we throw the ball. We just we're throwing the ball.
Speaker 9: I personally haven't had a lot of open boxes running
Speaker 9: the ball.
Speaker 1: No, you didn't.
Speaker 9: But what I'm saying is if I had a Pagan,
Speaker 9: I'm damn sure you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but
Speaker 9: no one put No one put Eggar and James in
Speaker 9: all time. Great, he's Hall of Famer. You saw the
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame backs, right these you want it as
Speaker 9: you asked for, So were going into some of these,
Speaker 9: these these Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: Running and James the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: He had a lot of yards though, didn't he He
Speaker 2: had a lot of carries too. See that's impressive though
Speaker 2: a lot of probably was healthy too. That's the thing
Speaker 2: about running backs.
Speaker 9: He had a lot of three hundred yard three hundred carriers.
Speaker 9: I've only had one. That's impressive.
Speaker 2: A lot of guys get hurt, and we're seeing it
Speaker 2: right now. Guys can't run the ball, Like, what's the
Speaker 2: number now, I don't know. They're saying every it's like
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty snaps for running back. They're like,
Speaker 2: if they play that or they have those carries, they're
Speaker 2: like going to get hurt. That's what the analytics I
Speaker 2: don't know. So when you see a guy that can
Speaker 2: do it repetitively, like that's why Frank Gore was crazy
Speaker 2: to me, Like that dude carried the ball so much.
Speaker 6: Longevity.
Speaker 1: Longevity is huge and running back, but.
Speaker 9: There's nobody that blocks Burn and Frank Gore. There's nobody
Speaker 9: that plays in.
Speaker 2: The between the tackles. Bro he got good eyes downhill
Speaker 2: and he's always leaning forward. I've never seen my better
Speaker 2: than him at that now can He makes the right
Speaker 2: read always, and he knows how to manipulate blocks the
Speaker 2: double teams because they always had the double teams with them.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: And he and you'll see a lot of like really
Speaker 2: like that's the difference between a pro back and a
Speaker 2: college back. College backs can get away with not making
Speaker 2: the right lead in the defense. Yeah, they could run
Speaker 2: through arm tackles and stuff. When you get to the league,
Speaker 2: it's like there's a track that you have to run
Speaker 2: because of how the blocking schemes are. And I didn't
Speaker 2: know that until I got to the NFL, because I
Speaker 2: was like, this guy's gonna be hell o good, we
Speaker 2: gotta and then you see that he makes the cut,
Speaker 2: you know, three three steps too early.
Speaker 1: The guy sheds off the block, and that's that's one
Speaker 1: of the young back.
Speaker 9: The hardest thing is, damn patient, there's a whole man'te
Speaker 9: no sell that shit more?
Speaker 2: Yeah, come off his heels, right, they always say come
Speaker 2: off his ass?
Speaker 4: Pause.
Speaker 1: I always say, coach a pause.
Speaker 6: Dude, Yeah, I paused a lot of the stuff coach.
Speaker 3: Be saying, coaches saying, Now, Reggie Bush talks about the
Speaker 3: original Bush push.
Speaker 2: Hey, we just had Leonard talking about the Bush push.
Speaker 2: Did you what's your perspective on that whole thing? My
Speaker 2: present is I want to see if it dials up.
Speaker 2: I want to see who's who's talking.
Speaker 7: That needed me on that play one hundred percent needed me.
Speaker 7: He was going backwards.
Speaker 6: He was going back.
Speaker 7: First of all, all right, let's just when you look
Speaker 7: at what Jalen Hurst is doing now, they they're trying
Speaker 7: to call it the brotherly brotherly love shove or the
Speaker 7: tush push. That's bullshit, all right, it's the bush push, okay,
Speaker 7: all right. And it started on accident, all right. It
Speaker 7: was started because I was trying to fucking win the
Speaker 7: game and I just didn't want to lose. And that's
Speaker 7: that relentless pursuit, that relentless mindset, like you know, no
Speaker 7: matter what, we we're gonna score this touchdown. And so
Speaker 7: before that play, we're in the huddle, it's time out
Speaker 7: because everything's going crazy.
Speaker 6: Matt just gets knocked out of bounds.
Speaker 7: First of all, Matt got knocked out of bounds and
Speaker 7: fumbled the ball out of bounds. So it was it
Speaker 7: was one of those plays where if he gets tackled
Speaker 7: in bounds, game over. So he gets knocked out of bounds,
Speaker 7: ball goes out, clock stops, even though Notre Dame tried
Speaker 7: to keep the clock running. And we get the time
Speaker 7: out and we're in the huddle and it's just I
Speaker 7: just remember it just being chaos, and I'm just like,
Speaker 7: I can't fucking believe we could possibly lose this game
Speaker 7: right now, Like I can't believe we're in this dogfight
Speaker 7: with Notre Dame. Like, and so I go to I
Speaker 7: say to the man, I'm like, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 7: And he's like, I'm gonna sneak it. I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 7: literally the first thing came in my head.
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: Shit, didn't he say like, yeah, dude, he said he
Speaker 2: said that. You said like, yeah, man, I think you
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 6: That's not how I felt.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, because he was doing some hand
Speaker 1: signal things. He said, I got this audible.
Speaker 7: Something like he might have the audible or something right now,
Speaker 7: because I don't know if this is going to work.
Speaker 7: And so then we break the huddle and all eleven
Speaker 7: players are lined up waiting for this QB sneak and I'm.
Speaker 6: Like, man, oh my god. And so Matt hikes the ball.
Speaker 7: He starts getting knocked backwards on a QB sneak. He's
Speaker 7: moving backwards. I'm like, oh no, this is happening. I
Speaker 7: just shove his ass, push him as hard as I
Speaker 7: could bro over the line, and then.
Speaker 6: He kind of like does some little you didn't even
Speaker 6: like the head down and like.
Speaker 1: Dude, you gotta have a knack for the end zone.
Speaker 7: I'm so glad that we have the Philadelphia Eagles perfecting
Speaker 7: it now, because you see what it's supposed to look
Speaker 7: opposed to that's what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 6: Ours ain't looked like look like a dead fish.
Speaker 3: He was doing one of those moves he learned in
Speaker 3: the ballroom dancing class he was taking, You're a wet.
Speaker 6: It was a dead fish move. Here was the.
Speaker 1: Ballroom dead seat that he was taking that year, only.
Speaker 6: He slid up in there.
Speaker 7: But but again he needed that push over that over
Speaker 7: that line, and I had I didn't even know it
Speaker 7: was illegal at the time.
Speaker 6: I was just like, we got to win this game.