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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Booth Review Podcast. It's Tell the

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Speaker 1: Truth Monday, Fletch. And there's a lot honesty out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're problems album to get our ball right, man.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear what you got to say.

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Speaker 1: That all starts right now. Welcome to the Booth Review Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with future Hall of Famer London Fletcher.

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Speaker 1: And as always, we're brought to you by the Microsoft

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Speaker 1: Surface Copilot plus PC and we are in the Big

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Speaker 1: Bear or I am in the Big Bear AI Command

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Speaker 1: Center Studio, Fletch. That was a tough one, man, And

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Speaker 1: we're here for Tell the Truth Monday. And I know

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Speaker 1: you like to tell the truth. You want to just

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Speaker 1: start off with kind of your initial high level thoughts,

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Speaker 1: then we'll go from there, get us some detailed questions.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So first of all, we're having too many

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Speaker 2: tail the truth mondays lately.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't feel that way.

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Speaker 2: That's that's first thing. And I would say this, it

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Speaker 2: was it was a very rough game. I got an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to watch the game film on the way on

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Speaker 2: my flight back from Dallas this morning. I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: man just not consistently inconsistent. It is how I'll describe it.

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Speaker 2: I thought we we.

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Speaker 1: Didn't like that's such, that's such codes speak right, consistently

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Speaker 1: and consistent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's true and consistent.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't think we played well enough to win

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Speaker 2: that ball game on any any side of the ball. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: defense is more glaring, and that's that was more glaring

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Speaker 2: to me. I thought we we lost in the trenches

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball first and foremost, and

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Speaker 2: then the exposive players continue as a defense. The penalties

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Speaker 2: were were costly against us, some some questionable with some

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Speaker 2: you know, just just too many penalties, especially on the

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Speaker 2: road game. And then the turnovers, having a two turnovers.

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Speaker 2: So it's a culmination of a lot of different things

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Speaker 2: when you really get down to it. And DQ touched

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Speaker 2: on it and his pressure, like we just didn't play

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Speaker 2: well enough to win that ball game.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm with you, Fletch, and I think, so

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Speaker 1: let's just start the conversation by like looking at it

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Speaker 1: in the lens of what Dallas did well and then

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Speaker 1: maybe how Washington can get that cleaned up moving forward.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I thought, they, like you said, they

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Speaker 1: hit the explosive opportunities, which is like tough for defenses, right,

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Speaker 1: you got to survive those explosive opportunities. And then I

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Speaker 1: thought they ran the football really well, so kind of

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Speaker 1: the double edged short they were explosive, They ran the

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Speaker 1: football well, they were good on third down. What did

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Speaker 1: you see in terms of those explosive opportunities that kind

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Speaker 1: of I don't know that from your defensive perspective made

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Speaker 1: them so successful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first and foremost, Like coming into the game Dallas,

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Speaker 2: that was what they did. They were second most team

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Speaker 2: in a national football in terms of taking deep shots, right,

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Speaker 2: that's what they do. They had I don't know the number.

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Speaker 2: I think it was like twenty nine deep shots coming

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Speaker 2: into that ball game, but they had the second most

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Speaker 2: deep shots in the ball game. So that from that standpoint,

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Speaker 2: there wasn't that was to it be expected. I'll say

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Speaker 2: this on some of those deep opportunities, like the one

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Speaker 2: that that Pickings caught against Trey Amoss. That's the trays there,

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Speaker 2: nice thro nice catch, the one right before the half, Hey,

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Speaker 2: could you do something differently from a technique standpoint, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Those are things that the coaches will have

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Speaker 2: us wasn't consistent enough. A lot of those deep shots

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Speaker 2: he takes time. You know, they're the one to see

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Speaker 2: the lamb down the middle of the field. Was their

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Speaker 2: communication or bus From a coverage standpoint as I look

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Speaker 2: at it, I don't know that the coverage was played

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Speaker 2: exactly how it should have been played. But also Dak

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Speaker 2: had a long time to kind of hitch and throw

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Speaker 2: taking those deep shots, it takes. It takes a lot

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Speaker 2: of different things. Protection being one of them. And did

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Speaker 2: we play with the proper leverage all the time down

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Speaker 2: a several different things that happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to double click on a couple of

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Speaker 1: those things. First off, I'm glad you run up those

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Speaker 1: And so some of it is that Dallas is good

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Speaker 1: So, for example, in that first completion to Tremos, like

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Speaker 1: at the moment. The one too, the one on You know,

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Speaker 2: And they they quick snapped us on that play. And

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Speaker 2: it's also a situation, if I remember correctly, we didn't

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Speaker 2: I also I was because I was in Dallas, happened

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely see it the same way.

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Speaker 1: But I think you bring up a good point there

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Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing that I that I like. I

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Speaker 2: just forces the quarterback maybe to hold it on, just

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Speaker 2: Let me figure out what the coverage structure is and

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Speaker 2: that should allow the pass us to get there. Things

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Speaker 2: So those are the three things you have to check

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up because I think

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Speaker 1: it relates to both the things we're talking about, Like

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Speaker 1: as you're talking about how like sometimes you can present

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Speaker 1: I felt like Dak thought it was going to be

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Speaker 1: It's a sack. So there are opportunities where you see

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Speaker 1: the alignment, assignment, execution coming together in these moments. It's

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Speaker 1: just it seems like it's not happening with the regularity

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Speaker 1: needed to be successful defensively in this football game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And when you do that, I've I've been on

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Speaker 2: a couple of defense like that where just like Man,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I'll give you an very great example

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Speaker 3: Taking the way back machine there, huh bud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, taking the play back because I because I've way back.

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Speaker 2: We won, won the Super Bowl top five defense. I

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Speaker 3: But it is a really hard It's I don't I

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Speaker 1: It's hard to take a step back and say, just

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And man, here's another thing too, you find yourself.

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Speaker 1: Honest, Yeah, and I totally agree with you, and I've

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Speaker 3: And you know that better than anybody.

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Speaker 2: No, No, absolutely, And that's again like the coaches, they'll

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Speaker 3: Know, definitely feel that adult.

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Speaker 2: So you you you go through those things as a

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Speaker 1: But that's a great point though, Like because you're doing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and again. And even like I look at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really glad you brought up the rushing game

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Speaker 2: third and one at third and two third three is

435
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 2: totally different than defending third and six, third and six

436
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 2: seven plus. So but it's all about, hey, if we

437
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: do our jobs, fit properly, don't mistackles, all those things,

438
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: stay in your gap, being maybe a little bit more

439
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: stotter at points of attack, whatever the case may be.

440
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: They don't get these yards that they're they're getting in

441
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 2: you're not allowing them to convert these these third downs,

442
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: and then you get the ball back to our offense

443
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: and don't you're now you're not giving up thirty seven points.

444
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 2: I look at this defensively, they gave up thirty seven.

445
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: You had to pick six. So you're not giving up

446
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 2: those those points, and you're probably and you're scoring probably

447
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: more than twenty two because you have more opportunities as

448
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: an offense.

449
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's so a couple of things

450
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Speaker 1: they said are great, Like I think a great example

451
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Speaker 1: of the you know what was it the second and

452
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Speaker 1: ten to the third and one type of environment like

453
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Speaker 1: they had that I think it was the play action

454
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Speaker 1: to pickings that got the first PI that led to

455
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Speaker 1: the touchdown the next player or whatever. Like they're able

456
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Speaker 1: to run a play action pass on third one, the

457
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: gets all sticky in the front, you get one on

458
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Speaker 1: one coverage on the perimeter. Like I want to say

459
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Speaker 1: those are I don't want to say those are easy throws,

460
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: but those are easier reads, easier looks for the quarterback,

461
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: easier looks for the offensive line because we didn't take

462
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: care of the down and distance we had when it

463
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: was second and ten right obviously, and then to piggyback

464
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Speaker 1: off of that, I think the other thing is just

465
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Speaker 1: the I don't know, like, yeah, that's I think that's

466
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Speaker 1: a really good example of what you're talking about. They're

467
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Speaker 1: just how like we might not show up in the

468
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Speaker 1: stat sheet, but those long down in distance runs we're

469
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Speaker 1: backbreaking at times because they kept everything on schedule for

470
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even you know, we'll look at it. I

472
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Speaker 2: don't know if we want to get an offense yet,

473
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Speaker 2: but I just I looked at this and this was

474
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Speaker 2: my thoughts going into the ball game, knowing what we

475
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Speaker 2: were up against from a being challenged with with our

476
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Speaker 2: top three receivers out and I know Terry and and

477
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: Noah haven't played in quite a while, but losing debo

478
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: that changes that changes things. And from a defense standpoint,

479
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: you got to think, hey man, we can't allow this

480
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: to be a shootout. You know, let's let's we're gonna

481
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: have to figure out a way to minimize keep the

482
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Speaker 2: score down. You're not gonna hold You're not gonna shut

483
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: Dallas out. They were number two ranked scoring offensive lead.

484
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: You're not gonna totally shut them down, but we have

485
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: to when you get opportunities to get off the field

486
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: on the third down. We got it we had to

487
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: limit the explosive. They're gonna make some plays. We have

488
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: to limit the explosive explosive. We can't have all the

489
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: penalties that we had. A couple of them were very questionable,

490
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Speaker 2: but regardless, we put ourselves in a position that they

491
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Speaker 2: called them. It was a situation where from a defense standpoint,

492
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Speaker 2: you can probably try to have to hold them in

493
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Speaker 2: the twenties, you know, maybe twenty seven twenty four wins

494
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: that you know puts you in a situation where you

495
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 2: winning that ball game. But when you get into the

496
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: thirties now, it just puts a lot of pressure on

497
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: the offense. Day. You know, we were missing, we're missing

498
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: a lot of guys, and I know DQ said, hey,

499
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 2: the injuries didn't cost us, but this needed to be

500
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: a true offense, defense, special teams type of game where

501
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: that led to a win.

502
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like, like Dak Prescott was twenty one for

503
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: thirty for two hundred and sixty four yards and three touchdowns,

504
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 1: Like he was playing well coming in, played well yesterday.

505
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: It's a tough to deal with a guy like that.

506
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: And like, when you're dealing with a guy that good,

507
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: who's playing that well on offense, it's been able to

508
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: find those explosive plays. Like you said, it does need

509
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: to be a good mixture of offense and defense supporting

510
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: each other, and so like, while you feel that the

511
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: defense let the offense down, there are times where I

512
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: look at the film on offense, I'm like, and we're

513
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: going we can talk about the offense now, where like,

514
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: despite the injuries, I thought Clifford called good plays. Guys

515
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: were open, there were opportunities for completions, and we weren't

516
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: able to get first downs, weren't able to possess the football.

517
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: And this is again my offensive bias. Anytime you punt,

518
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: you're putting your defense, you're exposing your defense. And ideally

519
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: you know they work hand in hand, right, Oh, the

520
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: offense and defense, they're going to support each other. But

521
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: also the offense can carry its way too and be like, hey,

522
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: we're gonna go on a nice eight play drive and

523
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: let the defense recover, let them get the corrections and

524
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: they need to, and then we've held up our end

525
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: of the bargain. That being said, like you already talked

526
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: about a little bit, like that's how I feel about

527
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: the offense. I feel like in some ways they didn't

528
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: hold up there into the bargain. But they have all

529
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: of this kind of built in adversity, right There's the

530
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: receivers are banged up Cosby's first game like it. Just

531
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: do they have enough offensive playmakers to live up to

532
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: that expectation, I think is the question.

533
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Speaker 2: I'll say this the thing that surprised me the most

534
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: when I watched the offensive film. I didn't think the

535
00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: offense line played well. I thought I thought they did.

536
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: They didn't play well, especially in past pro they there

537
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: were some missignments from a past protection standpoint. I thought.

538
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: I thought at times Dallas was more physical than us.

539
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: I thought we had trouble dealing with some of their

540
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: their movements and the uh that they ran, especially when

541
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: they were bringing a uh extra rusher like a fifth

542
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: man fifth rusher on the on the on the blitz

543
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: or run stuff. We had trouble dealing with that. And

544
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: there were times that I mean, quite frankly, they were

545
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: just more physical than us. And that that surprised me.

546
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: That how I said how poorly the offensive line played,

547
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: just just being honest with what what I saw, and

548
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, they had to tell the

549
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: truth Monday when they look at that film and the

550
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: offensive players look at it as well. There were some

551
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: miscommunications on who we were supposed to block, miss blocks

552
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: on runs like okay, I'm supposed to block this guy,

553
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 2: not staying on a double team too long, that as

554
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: you mentioned, not working to the next level, some id

555
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: situations where hey are you ideaing the right guy? That

556
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: happened too many times, and that ball game penalties hurt us.

557
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: You know, we go from thirty one to a third

558
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: and six different that's the big difference between you know,

559
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: being able to convert and getting off the field. So

560
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: some drop passes and then there was also some inaccurate throws.

561
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: So it was a lot of different things that happened.

562
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 2: But I just think the offensive line disappointed. I was.

563
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: I was surprised that they didn't play you know, well.

564
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you talked about a lot of stuff there, Fletch.

565
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: Let's just let's what we're going to attack each part

566
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: of that real quick. Let's start off with at the

567
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: highest level, what did the Dallas defense do that was

568
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: so effective? You alluded to a couple of things there

569
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: to me, like in rebuttal to what you're saying is, yeah,

570
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I agree, the offensive line could have played better. But

571
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: when you're facing a lot of eight man boxes with

572
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of movement and a lot of pressure in

573
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: pass protection and rundown situations, it just enhances the level

574
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: of difficulty. Like I'm telling you, like having been part

575
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: of the blocking service for a long time, the second

576
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: you start stunting and moving guys, it demands quick and

577
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: immediate nonverbal communication with the people next to you. And

578
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: so I do think they're getting last week against the

579
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: Bears and this week they're getting more stressed because teams

580
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: are being way more aggressive than they'd shown on first

581
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: and second down. And I think you said that a

582
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: bunch of times on the broadcast.

583
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I anticipated that coming into the ball game.

584
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Speaker 1: They're better man than me man because I was like,

585
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, like Eberflus kind of does his thing, He's

586
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: going to stay with what he does. But he came

587
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: out and they brought they were just they brought the

588
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: machine gun out on Sunday.

589
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Well when you as you know, copycat league, and they

590
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: saw the Bears game plan and saw how the Bears

591
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: were able to have success bringing pressure on us, blitzing more.

592
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: I thought they did a nice mix of pressure and

593
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: playing zone. So having fire zones playing zone coverage, it's.

594
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: Just what's a fire zone? Can you explain that to

595
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: people have been beat on?

596
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 2: So fire zone, the fire part of it, let's call

597
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: it a blitz, a five man rush, so they bring

598
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: it five players, but instead of playing man and man coverage,

599
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: especially on the second level, they're playing kind of zone.

600
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: You have let's call it a seam defender, a middle

601
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: hook player, and then you have another scene player, so

602
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: you got you got pressure. But then you also have

603
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: eyes on the quarterback, vision on the quarterback. So there

604
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: were some times where Jaden might have beat the blitz,

605
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: so to speaking, and he was able to scramble and

606
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, he's like, where man, where

607
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: did this linebacker come from? Why was he able to

608
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: get the Jaden before he's able to turn up and

609
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: pick up a first down. Well, because they're playing zone,

610
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: you got guys sitting there ready to run. They also

611
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: did a nice job when they went to their cover

612
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: one whether it was four man rush or five man pressure,

613
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: playing five man blitzing and playing man or playing four

614
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: man man a man four man rust, playing man and man.

615
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: They had a spy guy for Jaden. He was assigned

616
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: to Jaden like if he tries to take off, you're

617
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: going to him. It wasn't a guy a low hol

618
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: player that's looking to help on some shallow crosses or

619
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: something like that. His responsibility was Jayden as a as

620
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: a as a runner. So that's what that's what Dallas did.

621
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Speaker 2: They mix it up. They were a high zone coverage

622
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: type team like Cover.

623
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Speaker 3: Three hi the NFL before this game.

624
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Speaker 2: I'm absolutely yep. Going into that game, Cover two they

625
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: were the highest. Think of Cover three, they were one

626
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: of the highest, but just playing truth zone, Yeah, true zone.

627
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: When you add those two together, they definitely were the highest.

628
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: They brought a lot of pressure, a lot of them

629
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: run stunts or bringing safeties off the edge, ran a

630
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: couple of linebackers up the blitzing up the middle, confusion protections,

631
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: also making you work in combinations. But it's also a

632
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: situation where hey, can we win consistently in one on

633
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: one situations on a perimeter. They were banking on us

634
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: not being able to over the course of the game

635
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: win consistently one on one on a perimeter as well.

636
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's double click on that for a second, because

637
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: I do think that's a big storyline coming out of

638
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: the game. It's just basically like you said, there's they

639
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: were way more aggressive, brought way more pressure, different types

640
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: of pressure, different types of line movement, and in the broadcast,

641
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: and it sounds like, right now, you think that's because

642
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 1: while I do think the guys who are playing in

643
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: the roles of the people that are injured are doing

644
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: a fine job. Chris Moore as an exposed to play,

645
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Luke sets some exupposed to plays. Last couple of weeks,

646
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Robbie Chosen I think made his presence felt in the game.

647
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: I think teams are feeling more comfortable playing man to

648
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: man coverage because they like those guys can't consistently win

649
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: those one on ones.

650
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Speaker 2: That's and it's all. It's a percentage game, and you

651
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: you're an analytics guy.

652
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: I guess so.

653
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: Again again, I heard a quote I told you I

654
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: stayed overnight in Dallas and they asked us Shottenheimer about

655
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 2: Brian schat Brian Schottenheimer, the head coach of the Cowboys.

656
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, the question was you guys seem to

657
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: be more aggressive, brought more pressure in this ball game.

658
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: And they were saying and played a lot more man

659
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: than man, and they were saying, Hey, the analytics told

660
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: us that was the way they attacked. Interesting to attack

661
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: this team, that's that's that's what the analytics said. I

662
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: just look at percentages. We've always had satitions from a

663
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: percentage standpoint, Can you consistently beat my guys one on one?

664
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: Or there were guys getting open, But what's Jayden gonna

665
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: have the time to find that guy open? Where they

666
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: going to be what we're going to be able to

667
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: manipulate the press, manipulate the pass, protect pass pro and

668
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: get pressure on him before he can get to the

669
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: open guys. So, don't get me wrong, there were there

670
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: were times guys one they won in one on one matchups,

671
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: but the pressure may have gotten to them. We might

672
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: have to lead a pocket or something like that. So

673
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: there was a there was a combination of different things

674
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: that happened in that ballgame. But to your point, the

675
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: last two weeks, teams have been far more aggressive attacking

676
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: us in the in these ball games.

677
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think honestly like this, well, that affects

678
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: the passing game, right because they're playing more man covers,

679
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: they're bringing more pressure, they're unsettling, Jaden, they're saying, we're

680
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: going to play the percentage. I also think that leads

681
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: really nicely to our next question question, which is why

682
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: we couldn't run the football, because on first and second down,

683
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: you're seeing a way more, way higher percentage of eight

684
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: man boxes, way more first down pressures, way more first

685
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: down line movement, and like you already said, like when

686
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: you're in that front and teams are just bringing absolute

687
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: fastballs down and down out, it makes it really hard

688
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: to execute on first down. And so I think that's

689
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: something else that I point to is a ripple effect

690
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: or a trickle down effect from the injuries on the perimeter.

691
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and also dan injuries on the perimeter. The

692
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: parson Al groups have changed a lot too. Yeah, so

693
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: you're seeing more more three tiny hands Trey parson Al.

694
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they only had four receivers up right in

695
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: the game. I think that's what Brand was saying to broadcast, right,

696
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: so they've got coolson Yankov as your fourth ride receiver

697
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: in some looks because you don't have enough bodies just

698
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to get out there and run routes. I mean, it's

699
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: it was a really interesting kind of dynamic and it

700
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: felt like early they got off their game script. It

701
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: felt like they want to run the football play action pass,

702
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: but they kind of couldn't do that as effectively as

703
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: they wanted. And then it really stresses the rest of

704
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: your game plan because all of a sudden, you're in

705
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: second and eight, you're in second and nine.

706
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: We got to get more quick game.

707
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the defensive coordinator has

708
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: a feel for that and we're going nuclear in terms

709
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: of our pressure package.

710
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: Literally and again with the and our our heavy looks,

711
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: heavy tight end looks. They've been good for us, but

712
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: in this ball game, because Dallas was doing a lot

713
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: of lion stunts, a lot of movement, bringing pressure from

714
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: guys because they were saying, hey, I mean just be honest,

715
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 2: you got you when you go some of those three

716
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: three tight end looks. You got Trent Scott. I mean, Trent, hey,

717
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: let's we go start dumbling some passes. So if you're

718
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: not looking at him as a pass receiver, you got baits.

719
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: He caught a ball yesterday, but he's more known as

720
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: a as a block and tight end. And it's not

721
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm not knocking anybody, I'm just looking telling you how

722
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: to defense views it now and then uh, you may

723
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: have had I can't remember if jankof it was ERTs.

724
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: Well, they kind of like mixed that exactly.

725
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: Senate, Yeah, Senate. So these are guys in this and

726
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: know some of those formations. It was just like how

727
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: many times are you throwing the football? So from a

728
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: defense perspective, you get this person group and you know

729
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: who the guys are, Like, Hey, I'm dialing up a

730
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: run blitz and if they happen to pass the ball,

731
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: they beat us. But we're going to play the hots,

732
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: and as you mentioned, a lot of those looks are

733
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: just muddy and and just the byproduct of what we

734
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: have going on. From an injury standpoint, In my opinion.

735
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Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of in twenty thirteen

736
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: when d Y Drell Young the fullback and I were

737
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: on the field. In twenty one, personnel teams would matching

738
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: goal line. We had such a high run percentage.

739
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. They'd matching goal line exactly exactly.

740
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: And they'd bring crazy run pressures and stuff. So eventually

741
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: got to the point where we had such a high

742
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: tell in those moments that we had to get out

743
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: of the personnel grouping because they were so keyed in

744
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: on us just getting on us run the plane. We

745
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: were really effective prior to that, but then teams are like, no,

746
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: we're just going to bring in the six defensive lineman.

747
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: We would try to play action pass, but it would

748
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: mess up our protection rules because we didn't you know,

749
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: it just it got really messy.

750
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: So I was just about to say I was about

751
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: to say, Logan, you couldn't become a receiver.

752
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: May we'd get Pierre to run a rout you know,

753
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: just Shaun Jackson running routes, but like we just couldn't

754
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: protect it because we weren't used to Our protection rules

755
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: in twenty one didn't translate to the goal line fronts

756
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: we were getting. So it just got a little bit messy.

757
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: And again we just stopped getting in twenty one and

758
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: we won games that way. But it gets to that

759
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: point where teams get so locked in on certain personnel

760
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: tells that you can't do what you gotta do and

761
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: you can't hurt them. I think that's the thing, is like,

762
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: that's great. If I'm an offensive carder, I'm like, that's awesome.

763
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: They're bringing run blitz is they're playing extra defensive linemen,

764
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: they've got linebackers on the field.

765
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: Let's throw passes.

766
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: And they've tried to do that at points during the year,

767
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: with zach Ertz running deep digs and goes on the perimeter.

768
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: It's just sometimes you don't have enough vertical speed there

769
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: to match up with the coverage players they have on

770
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: the field, and you can't get the juice. Isn't worth

771
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: the squeeze anymore. So I do feel like that's something

772
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: that they're going to probably look at this week in

773
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: terms of how do we how do we get rid

774
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: of some of these personnel tendencies and move out of

775
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: some of these looks where defenses can tee off anyway.

776
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: Go Yeah, you have to.

777
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely have to. Otherwise it's just gonna continue to

778
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: be the same thing over and over again.

779
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

780
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: And the other thing that came up was so all

781
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: of this stuff on first down makes it way more

782
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: complicated for the offensive line. And I've been a big

783
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: proponent of saying like, outside of playing quarterback, the offensive

784
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: line is the toughest thing to do on the offensive

785
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: side of the football from a pass protection, run blocking standpoint,

786
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: getting things targeted. But I felt like you felt some

787
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: of that stress on the offensive line affect the quarterback

788
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: a little bit. And Jayden Daniels, you know we talked

789
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: about on the broadcast, wasn't quite as sharp as he

790
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: normally was, because, like we talked about how Cliff did

791
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: a great job, Scheven zach ertz open or there's a

792
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: dig route that gets dropped or whatever it is, and

793
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: we just couldn't get a consistent offensive rhythm. And again,

794
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: this is where I go back to saying this had

795
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: to be a complimentary football game, and it wasn't because

796
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: the offense just couldn't.

797
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: We were able to score points.

798
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: They were able to score points, but we weren't able

799
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: to sustain drives and limit the stress on the defense.

800
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: Now, you and it probably some of the inaccurate throws

801
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: that you got guys open. I know it was comes

802
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: to mind. I think a couple comebacks yep, that were

803
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: open but just off target. Was his process sped up

804
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: in his mind thinking hey, it might not we might

805
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: not protect this, or I've been hit or something like that.

806
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: So just there was a couple of times, and I

807
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: don't know, like was the depth of the routes properly

808
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: that I don't know those things. Was a receiver supposed

809
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: to do something a little different? I don't know those things.

810
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: But I just know whether they were just on the

811
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: same page, that the routes were open, but was there

812
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: some details missing within that, or whether it was on

813
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback or was on the receiver.

814
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Well, it was funny, like going on, not funny.

815
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: It was just interesting when you're walking the sideline and

816
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: you see the receiver come up, Coach come up to

817
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Jade and be like, hey, we got to be we

818
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: gotta be in a better spot for you. And I

819
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: don't know what he's referring to, but he's saying like,

820
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: we can be better here for you, you know. And

821
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: there's a couple of times where you're watching film and

822
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, these two guys probably shouldn't be

823
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: this close to each other. This spacing is weird, or

824
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: this guy shouldn't be runn to go when this guy's

825
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: running a corner or whatever that looks like. And I

826
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: do think that relates to having a lot of young

827
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: new pieces on the field at the same time, quite frankly,

828
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: like really like people. And again, those guys have been

829
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: very productive, but when you get people who haven't got

830
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: a ton of reps in the offseason. In these roles,

831
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: it shows up in terms of production. And I think

832
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: you're feeling that from the passer in Jade Daniels, and

833
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: I think you're feeling it from some of the pass

834
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: catchers in terms of like, for example, there was a

835
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: little hitch that Jalen Lane ran, for example, and they

836
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: just weren't on the right page, like he was too

837
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: deep or jayde thought he was gonna come out of

838
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: it differently. And I feel like that just shows up

839
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't show up when the starters

840
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: are in there necessarily.

841
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and or you know, more veteran guy, more

842
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: seasoned gush, sure, yeah, with the reps and understanding all

843
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: those different things. And it's the details, man, in detail,

844
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: this game is a game of details of just carrying out. Again,

845
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys calling on offense. I

846
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: don't know if it's aligning, assignment, execution, what you're what

847
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: you guys think about as you break the huddle. But

848
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: making sure I get my proper debt, making sure versus

849
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: press what I'm supposed to do, versus cover three, cover two,

850
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: fires on blitz is what I'm supposed to do or

851
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: the adjustment. So it's a lot of a lot of

852
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: things that you got to think about and everybody has

853
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 2: to be on the same page.

854
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: I think that's one hundred percent right.

855
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: And and again like I think that leads really nicely

856
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: into our next segment, which is, Okay, what now now

857
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: that we've talked about all of the issues, all the

858
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: things that Dallas did well, all the areas that we

859
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: can improve, Like, how does this team get better? They

860
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: got kind of a touch stretch of road game, our

861
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: games coming up here, get some really good opponents, Like

862
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: how do they take this and say we learned from it?

863
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: Like?

864
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: What do we learn from it? And how do we

865
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: get better moving forward? So let's I guess let's start

866
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: with like scheme, Like is there a scheme issue or

867
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: does it go back to all the stuff you're talking

868
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: about with the alignment, assignment technique and execution, because that's

869
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: what I feel when I watched the film.

870
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's let's solve problems. I like this part

871
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: solve problem we got we live in a world where

872
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: everybody's telling you what's wrong. Let's get to Okay, how

873
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: do we think we gotta know I'm serious. I was like,

874
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: all right, let's get out of the what went wrong? Okay,

875
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: how do we fix this? I like this. I don't

876
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: think schematically, I don't think it's scheme wise. I don't

877
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: think it's a situation where.

878
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: And let me just can I just pigback on that

879
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: real quick?

880
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: But like everyone runs cover two, everyone's covers three, everyone's

881
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: man covered. Like these are very common things. And now

882
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: it's just about to not to cut you off. It's

883
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: we can't go find a new magic coverage or a

884
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: new magic run fit or a new magic run structure.

885
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: It's like, we just got to be better at the

886
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: stuff we got.

887
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: Now, I'll say this, So when you look at our

888
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: right the call for a particular situation, every every call

889
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: has a weakness. Every defense has a weakness. Now it's

890
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: a matter of if they find that weakness and they

891
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: make a play. All right, they got us? Did we

892
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: first of all? And this is where you have to

893
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: really dig deep into did everybody execute their job on

894
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: that given play? And as I mentioned earlier, we have

895
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: not done that consistently enough, playing and play out through

896
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: the course of seven games. The Cowboys game was just

897
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: the last one. But if you really look at it,

898
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: even the games we've won, have we done that consistently enough?

899
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Play in and play out? In my opinion, the aswer

900
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: is no, and it's if you look at the film

901
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: you will see we have not done our jobs each

902
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: individual players consistently enough. Did we from an alignment standpoint

903
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: assimnment standpoint execution? I see times where hey, why is

904
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: this guy open? Who's supposed to.

905
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: Be covering him?

906
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: Communication breakdowns, pre snap communication, post staff communication, non verbal communications.

907
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: So we have to if it involves more time on

908
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: the on the on the practice field, working this stuff together,

909
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: more time in the meeting rooms, getting together as a

910
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: secondary to getting together as a secondary and linebackers included,

911
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: to really work on this stuff, making sure are we

912
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: on on top of this. It's going to be done

913
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: by us all buying in and understanding. These are the

914
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: details of it. This is this rop talking talking out rap,

915
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: combinations or formations. You have to just put in more work.

916
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: You gotta put in more work, fine tune in the details,

917
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: fine tune in the discipline. If it's not happening the

918
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: way it needs to be in practice, don't gloss over

919
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: it and I'm not saying that I know they're doing

920
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: this and they may hey, correcting the details and then yeah,

921
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: they might not have thrown to this receiver or this

922
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: running back. But you need to be where you're supposed

923
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: to be. Your depth is not right, your zone drop

924
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: is not right, all those things. You just have to

925
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 2: really fine tune the details. And then from a defense

926
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: line standpoint, making sure a run gap standpoint, making sure

927
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: everybody's where they're supposed to be and if they make

928
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: a play against you, so being hey, but that's how

929
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: we get it correct. We got to put more time

930
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: in and fixing the details, fine tuning the details, and

931
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: we might have to tweak something here there. Maybe you

932
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: have a couple of combination calls. We got this defense

933
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: in three by one, we're gonna play this two by two,

934
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: so you know, do you look at doing some of

935
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: those things so you know it's a couple of different

936
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: options out there.

937
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's something that I mean from the you

938
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: said this earlier, and I think it was a great point.

939
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: Becau Kyle used to do this all the time, Like

940
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: we go into a game with a ton of calls,

941
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: a ton of check with me is like you know,

942
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: three plays called the line of scrimmage, and we just

943
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: couldn't play fast or execute to the level that we

944
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: needed to. And Kyle would come back on money Day

945
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: and you know, tell the truth Monday and be like, hey,

946
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: there was too much in that's on me. Like I

947
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: can streamline this for you guys and put you in

948
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: a better spot where you can own this game plan.

949
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: And it's funny like people think, oh, running the football

950
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: is simple, right, but I have different calls versus different

951
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: front spacings, and a team might run four different fronts

952
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: in a course of a game. You got your subfront,

953
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: you got your three or four base fronts, and then

954
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: you got to know how the adjustment for each run

955
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: versus each front. And I think that that's something that

956
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: people forget about, like you know who just watch the

957
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: game casually. It is like there takes a lot of

958
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: time to own something. Hey, Like you said this on routes,

959
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: like hey, I got to run this route. Hey, versus press,

960
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: it turns into a go versus cover two, it turns

961
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: into an eight yard stop or whatever it looks like, right,

962
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: whatever the correction is, and that level of detail and

963
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: understanding and getting on the same page takes time, and

964
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about all the pressures the old line of

965
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: seeing those take thousands of hours of reps to get

966
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: really good at right, And so can we truncate, make

967
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: it simple, find ways to again find personal accountability from

968
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: the coaches to the players.

969
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: I think that's really important.

970
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: That's something that dan Quinn talked about in this presser,

971
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: and I think it's again just saying like, can we

972
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: own this as much as possible as like know every

973
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: every little thing in this in about this and like

974
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: I was never a great football player for Fletch, but

975
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: every Monday or every Wednesday, coming after we get the

976
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: run list and go through a first down, first second

977
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: down cut up of all the fronts and all the calls.

978
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: I would make for every single run just so I

979
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: had it. You know, they might not run that front

980
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: for three years, but I would make sure that I

981
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: had it just in case they threw it out there.

982
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: And guess what I did the same thing from a

983
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: defensive step. Yeah, well, so listen, I would We would

984
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: we get our game plan, I know what, I know

985
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: what the calls, our first second down calls that we're

986
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: going to lead with, and then I would literally call

987
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: like this defense against this rum. Where's my safety at?

988
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Is there a check? I need to make all those

989
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: different things, and so just get those reps and then

990
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: we get into the ball, we get into the practice field,

991
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: I know where my fits are. We get into the game. Hey,

992
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: they might like, like you said, they may not have

993
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: run this in the last four game breakdown, but I can.

994
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: I know what my rules are, and hopefully the other

995
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: guys know what our rules are. And I would also

996
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: I would bring my my linebackers, some of my especially

997
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: the younger linebackers. I would bring them in there and

998
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: we would go through, Hey, this is our call. I'm

999
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: just putting us in different calls versus this run, especially

1000
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: if it's it's like a hairy type of run where okay,

1001
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: there might be a gray area. We don't want to

1002
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: have gray areas in a game plan, but whether it's

1003
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: offensive defensively, like all right, we really need to heart

1004
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: because some of the times it might be a gray

1005
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: area and coverage based on h I got this running

1006
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: back but he's close to a tight end. Do we combination,

1007
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: do we we call it banjo is or do I

1008
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: get my linebacker a lock signal? Or the nick or

1009
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: a lock, just depending like, Okay, these are the problems

1010
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: and we get into practice. We just got to work

1011
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: this to where Okay, we get in the game, this

1012
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: formation shows up, boom, make my call right away, Lock, Banjo,

1013
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: let's go out and play. So it's just it's just

1014
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: you just gotta rep it, man, You gotta rep it

1015
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: over and over again in the meeting rooms or the practice.

1016
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: We can get this right. Yeah, right, I think we

1017
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: have the personnel to be a not I think I

1018
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: know we have the personnel to be a lot better

1019
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: defensively than where we are.

1020
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and I agree with you.

1021
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: I look at it and also like I think it's

1022
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: it goes back to understanding the limitations you know, of

1023
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: what of what the coaches see too. Right, It's like, hey,

1024
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: we were a little bit banged up on the defensive

1025
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: line of defensive end. Maybe we can't run some of

1026
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: these pressure packages as we ran early in the season.

1027
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: What can we But what can these guys do? How

1028
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: do we maximize these guys? I think that's something else.

1029
00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: Cliff.

1030
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: Also, you know, he's in his bag every week trying

1031
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: to maximize guys. And I appreciate that, but maybe we

1032
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: find that, you know, more seems to be really good

1033
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: at these like deep high crossers and getting to open

1034
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: across the field, Like.

1035
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: Let's let's get him doing more of that.

1036
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: So I think that's another thing too, is like personal

1037
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: accountability from the players. Can we things have changed because

1038
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: of injuries? Like can we as a staff trying to

1039
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: figure out what these guys do well? And then we

1040
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 1: I think this goes back to where maybe the first

1041
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: thing you said is we have to play complimentary football.

1042
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: We can't be an offensive driven team or a defensive

1043
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: driven team or especially we got to be all phases

1044
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: have to be playing together in order for us to

1045
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: win football games.

1046
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's how it has to be. Especially I

1047
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: thought we I thought we were on the verge that

1048
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: when Trust had that great.

1049
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: Pump, Oh my gosh, Yeah, how great was that?

1050
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: It ends up, you know, down on the one yard

1051
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 2: line and then we get the safety d Uran gets

1052
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: the safety played great when and it's not just the

1053
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: ron I thought the defensive front defense in general, everybody

1054
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: was what they're supposed to be. Get the safety, get

1055
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: the pun and we actually end up taking the lead of.

1056
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: That ball gain.

1057
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: So they have to Yeah, So just I'm like, Okay,

1058
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: this is complimentary football. This is what we have to

1059
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: do to win this game. And he's kind of got

1060
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 2: out of whack a little bit. But there's a there's

1061
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: so much, so many things that we can do better,

1062
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: and I know as they looked at the film, they'll

1063
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: really have to dig into that. And I feel like

1064
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: we got the coaches to do that, we got the

1065
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: right players to do that, we got the right right

1066
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: character to get it done. And I have full confidence

1067
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: that we would get better.

1068
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so do I And I'm really excited.

1069
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: And again they're going to have to get a lot

1070
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: better because there's some really tough football games coming up.

1071
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: And I don't believe it must win games early in

1072
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: the season, not a big believer in that, but these

1073
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: are some pretty important games and it's we got at

1074
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs Monday night football, we got verse the

1075
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, and we got verse the Detroit Lions. I'd

1076
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: say probably, I don't.

1077
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: Know, fletch.

1078
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Three of the top five teams, top of the top

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Speaker 1: eight teams in the NFL, so obviously they got to

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00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: get right versus those teams. Do you feel like these games,

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00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: I know they're important. A lot of people ask me,

1082
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: are they must wins?

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00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: Again? Not a must win kind of guy, But where

1084
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: do you follow on that?

1085
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: Well? I don't. I'll say this, we can't go on three.

1086
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 3: So that's your own three.

1087
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: That's we're three and seven, so we can't. We cannot

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00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: go three and seven winn two out of three? I

1089
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 2: think I think two out of three.

1090
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to do something right.

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00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So whether it's must win or not. And again,

1092
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: I want us to win every every game. So but

1093
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, these are all gonna be tough games.

1094
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: I like like the fact that we got two of

1095
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: them at our home yep. And you know, so that

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00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: that that great Cass City Monday night football, that would

1097
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: be the toughest environment probably man, maybe with the exception

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00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: probably going into Detroit last year for the NFC chapter.

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00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you you played there?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, right, So I remember going there for a

1101
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: preseason game in two thousand. It's preseason, right, it's the

1102
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: first Priests game of the year. It's twenty seventeen, so

1103
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: they're pretty good, and we had to go on the

1104
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: silent count in a preseason game because it was.

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00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 3: So loud at Arrowhead. It gets rocking in that spot, man.

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Speaker 2: And I played there in speaking of preseason, last preseason game,

1107
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: my rookie year, last preseason game of the year, and

1108
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: it's they used to call it the Battle of I

1109
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: seventy Saint Louis versus Kansas City. I seventy is the

1110
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: highway and we're playing. Place is sold out. I'm like, man,

1111
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: what the heck? This is a preseason game. I know

1112
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: you remember this now, and at this point, you know,

1113
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: you hit the national anthem and the Home of the Brave,

1114
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: and then when it comes to the home, you know,

1115
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: they get to the Home of the Chiefs. I'm like,

1116
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: oh my goodness.

1117
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Like people will jump, people jump on the sideline if

1118
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: they're not ready for it, right.

1119
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, what in the that's how That's how

1120
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: intense it will. And this is a preseason game, so

1121
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 2: you can only imagine, Yeah, what it's going to be

1122
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 2: like Monday night. That place is going to be rocking.

1123
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: Be a great environment, tough environment, but again it's a

1124
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: tough environment. Hey, everybody has tough games. We need to

1125
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 2: get our ball right first and foremost, get our ball

1126
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: right to give ourselves the best opportunity to win a

1127
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 2: football game, and we don't get our ball right, it'll

1128
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: be to continue to be the same thing over and

1129
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: over again.

1130
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Speaker 1: And this is something I wanted to ask you because

1131
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: you I always look to you as like a leader

1132
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: on the team. I always like looked at you as

1133
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: the north star, like if you were talking to a

1134
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: bunch of guys, like back in twenty twelve, that was

1135
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: that was actually kind of a rough year. We were

1136
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: three and six. Things weren't looking too good. Right, we

1137
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: got it right, Like, what is yours as a leader?

1138
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: As a leader, what's your mindset kind of getting guys

1139
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: ready for these big moments kind of these not must

1140
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: win but these important games coming up.

1141
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: The thing that I I just I look back to

1142
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 2: that season and I remember there was a greater sense

1143
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: of urgency that happened. I don't know if you remember

1144
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 2: when coach Shanahan had his press conference and he talked

1145
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: about the evaluation process. We're gonna evaluate some guys. We'll see,

1146
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: you know, who's gonna be here, who's not gonna be here.

1147
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: Jobs are on the line. So d you kind of

1148
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: touched on that a little bit. We say, hey, we're

1149
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: gonna there will gonna be some changes, and we'll look

1150
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: at everything, whether it's changing the personnel, changes how we

1151
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 2: do things, whatever those changes are, We're gonna look at everything.

1152
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: So I anticipate a greater sense of urgency. Not saying

1153
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 2: that guys and have urgency. I'll say a heightened sense

1154
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: of accountability from an ownership standpoint, and making sure you're

1155
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: on top of your details, Studying more, Hey, guys, be

1156
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: studying more, meeting more as individual group, individual units, collectively,

1157
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: as a teammates, whatever the case may be. I anticipate

1158
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: us being more locked more locked in because of we

1159
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: understand what we're up against.

1160
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: What would you what would you say? I mean, I

1161
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 3: don't even remember.

1162
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: I remember you talked to the team multiple times in twelve,

1163
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: but like, what's your like, what's to go to? Is

1164
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: it just like kind of what you just said right there, Hey,

1165
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: we need to be more locked in or is it? Uh?

1166
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: It depends man. You trying to put me in that

1167
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: that big truckle.

1168
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: I'll get you back out there a little bit like

1169
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: strap those pads up, get that right now, ready to go.

1170
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had I've had I've had a couple of

1171
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: nice speeches. Where we woned. I had a couple my

1172
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: best speeches and we go out and lose. I'm like, man,

1173
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: what the heck you were the speech I gave? You

1174
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: start to laugh? Here we go ohing to to start thirteen. Yeah,

1175
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: and I can't team me know. Before we getting ready

1176
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: to play the Lives, and I cussed everybody out, coaches

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00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: include included.

1178
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 3: I remember I was like, oh damn all right.

1179
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: I even cussed myself.

1180
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: I remember you were cussing out Mike because You're like, man,

1181
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: we were too soft during trading camp and I was like, whoa,

1182
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: what's going on here?

1183
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 3: Like, what's happening?

1184
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: It was very iussed everybody. I was I had slept

1185
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: probably two days up. Gronky. I'm grouchy, gruffy. We had

1186
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 2: got outscoring like fifty to seven, and the first has

1187
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: the ball game. It was like, man, we were terrible,

1188
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: We're playing terrible, and it was it was us. So

1189
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: I get. I get what I thought. It was a

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: phenomenal speech. There's no way we're gonna lose this football

1191
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: game and get the Lions at home and we go

1192
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: out and lose. I'm like, man, I don't know what

1193
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: else to do. Coach but I'll say this, you have

1194
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: to understand, like I don't know how how the dynamics

1195
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: are in the meeting rooms. I'll say this consistently, your

1196
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: best players have to play their best They they have

1197
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: always had to be on top of their game. Your guys,

1198
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: your best player, they always have to be on top

1199
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: of your game. And then to be able to lead

1200
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: first and foremost, you got to be playing well. Getting

1201
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: to understand how you how you communicate to different guys.

1202
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: What do I need to talk? How do I talk

1203
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: to this guy to get the best out of him?

1204
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: Do I Is it yelling or is it encouraging? Is

1205
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: it continue to build him up? So you have to

1206
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: understand your individual players. You got to have relationships with them.

1207
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: But it's if you see a period not going the

1208
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: way it should go in practice.

1209
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: Hey, this period, I remember I almost cried twelve. You

1210
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: were like, we got to start this over and I

1211
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: was like, man, we're almost done with practice. Like what

1212
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: are we doing?

1213
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: Because the guys who when you've seen it done at

1214
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: a high level. I'll use Bobby Wagon for a since

1215
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: he's seen it done at a high level. Vionn Miller

1216
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: is seeing it done at the high level, so you

1217
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: know what it looks like. I mean, guys that were

1218
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: on the team last year, they know what it looks

1219
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: like at a high level. So when it's not quite there,

1220
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: whether it's the energy, the attention to details, the body laguage, whatever,

1221
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: this is not right. So let's start this over. It

1222
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: might be a play that happens, and I don't know

1223
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: that they repeat a play, especially like Okay, this is

1224
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: a little bit funky. We didn't get it right. Let's

1225
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: get it right. Let's correct this right now, especially at

1226
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: full speed. We don't correct it in the meeting room

1227
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: as well, but here's an opportunity to correct it on

1228
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: the grass. So just a lot of that needs to

1229
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: take place. I don't know, it may already be taking place,

1230
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: but to continue to do those things.

1231
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think ultimately, like all of that stuff

1232
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: that you just said was great, but it's about being

1233
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: personally accountable, being accountable as a unit, being accountable to

1234
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: the team. And I think we got a lot of

1235
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: guys who are wired that way and ready to be accountable.

1236
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,959
Speaker 1: Because it's going to take a lot of that moving forward,

1237
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: a lot of improvement over the next couple of weeks.

1238
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: But Fletch really enjoyed talking man, and I think that's

1239
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: going to do it for today's show.

1240
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Speaker 3: You got anything else you want to say before we

1241
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: get out of here or what?

1242
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: Hey? Man, Let's we're problem solved. Man. Let's get back right.

1243
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: Let's play our scholar ball man. We've got to get

1244
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: our ball right.

1245
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: Dude.

1246
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: I love that and I can't say anything better than that,

1247
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: but appreciate you, Fletch. Let's get our ball right. Heading

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,720
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