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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Maria Wheatley back with us. Her book is called The

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Speaker 2: Secret History of Stonehenge. She's a master dowser, researcher of

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Speaker 2: worldwide ancient sites and discovered the Lost Civilization to elongated

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Speaker 2: skull people who constructed numerous ancient sites, including Stonehenge. Maria

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Speaker 2: has studied at Oxford University and as an author, dowser

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Speaker 2: and international lecture. Maria, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. George, It's great to be back.

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Speaker 2: How have you been.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've just come back from America. Yesterday I was

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Speaker 3: in Boulder, Colorado. I love your country and I love

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Speaker 3: your people.

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Speaker 2: Were you with Guya by any chance?

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, good peace. Ancient civilizations.

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Speaker 2: We've got a TV show with them called Beyond Belief.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be out there Friday and we'll bring

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Speaker 2: you up.

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Speaker 3: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in the Secret History of Stonehenge.

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Speaker 3: Yes, really through my late father, who he was an author.

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Speaker 3: He was a masterdowser like myself, and he took me

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Speaker 3: as a child all around ancient sites, and it fascinated

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Speaker 3: me who built them? Why? And so I became involved

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Speaker 3: many many years ago, and that enthusiasm to find answers

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Speaker 3: is still with me to this day.

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Speaker 2: Now, you've discovered three types of elongated skulls that were

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Speaker 2: hidden from the world, and you found them were at

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Speaker 2: Cambridge University.

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Speaker 3: That's right. I went to Cambridge University because I was

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Speaker 3: writing a paper for Oxford and I was looking at

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Speaker 3: skulls from the Stonehenge environs and realized instantly that they

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Speaker 3: were elongated. They were very long skulled people forming a

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Speaker 3: lot of civilization. What do they look like, Maria, What

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Speaker 3: do they look like? That's a really good question. They

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Speaker 3: were quite small in stature. I measured the femur bones

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Speaker 3: and they would equate to a man being around five

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Speaker 3: feet six at the top and women being about four

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Speaker 3: feet nine, like the height of Queen Nefertiti of ancient Egypt.

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Speaker 3: So they were quite short. They had small heads, almost

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Speaker 3: like childlike in size, about the average age of a

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Speaker 3: twelve year old. But they were very long and elongated,

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Speaker 3: so they would have looked very different to you and I.

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Speaker 3: Their ear placements were further back as well, giving them

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Speaker 3: an almost mythical fairy look as well. And I think

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Speaker 3: they represent a long lost legendary race of people a

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Speaker 3: bit like giants as well. They were around about the

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Speaker 3: same time. We need to open our minds to look

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Speaker 3: to the ancient past and realize there were many different

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Speaker 3: aspects to that. Interestingly, George I gave a port from

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Speaker 3: an anthropologist to a doctor in London because the anthropologists

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Speaker 3: were describing their earbones were different to you and I,

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Speaker 3: and she said, if indeed that is the case, they

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Speaker 3: would have heard differently different sounds, maybe sounds that are

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Speaker 3: inaudible to us, like some levels of infrasand and it's

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Speaker 3: interesting to note that I recorded from standing stones and

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Speaker 3: earth energies infrasound eighteen hurts being omitted by the stones

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Speaker 3: and the ground, and possibly this long lost civilization could

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Speaker 3: hear particular sounds coming from the stones.

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Speaker 2: Were these entities do you think born? Were the elongated

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Speaker 2: skulls or were they created?

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Speaker 3: Yes, they were born with long skulls, but it appears

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Speaker 3: that the elite, the high priestesses, the high priests and

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Speaker 3: kings and queens and noble people extended their naturally long

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Speaker 3: skulls because as evidence of cranial deformation. So that's the

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Speaker 3: two different the main two types. One is natural and

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Speaker 3: one is elongated extended their long skulls.

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Speaker 2: Maria, is there an extraterrestrial presence here?

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Speaker 3: That's really interesting to note? Really ancient DNA A DNA

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Speaker 3: as it's called, needs to be reanalyzed. There are some

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Speaker 3: very strange burials around Stonehenge. One of them was very

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Speaker 3: similar to Lloyd Pye's starchild that he reported on. I

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Speaker 3: read an old archaeological report and it seemed that the

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Speaker 3: of this world because they were describing that this being

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Speaker 3: had a tail, for example, and it shocked the early

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Speaker 3: archaeologist so much so that they put that being back

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Speaker 3: have an extraterrestrial being within the Stonehenge environs and that

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Speaker 3: that age old question where did they originate from?

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Speaker 2: They say Stonehead was created around twenty five hundred BC.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with that date?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't. I think that date needs to be

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Speaker 3: fit in worldwide, whether it's the Pyramids, wherever you go

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Speaker 3: I disagree with that. I think it's much older, and

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Speaker 2: Maria, what do you think the significance of Stonehenge might be?

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Speaker 2: Is it some kind of ancient clock, seasonal clock?

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Speaker 3: What is it? Yes, that's a really good question. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people say it is a calendar because the

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Speaker 3: heelstone is an alignment to the mid summer sunrise. But

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Speaker 3: I think there's a much deeper technology going on. Dowsers

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Speaker 3: such as myself, going back decade after decade, have noticed

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Speaker 3: that if you dress a stone, what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Making them into lozenger shapes that Stonehenge we call it

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Speaker 3: as archeologist dressing a standing stone. Then you could actually

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Speaker 3: that role at Stonehenge, as old myths have always stated,

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Speaker 3: has been for healing. If we go back to the

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Speaker 3: of the Kings of Britain, he said, no stone, that

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Speaker 3: Stonehenge does not have healing power, so he's saying it's

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Speaker 3: a healing temple. And right up to the nineteenth century,

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Speaker 3: people unbelievably used to buy hammers from the nearby town

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Speaker 3: of Amesbury and chip off healing chunks. And that's why

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Speaker 3: Stonehenge today isn't the perfect geometrical shape that it once

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Speaker 3: used to be. So one aspect of Stonehenge was for healing.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, how do you think it was constructed, Maria, Yes.

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Speaker 3: The construction of Stonehenge is quite complex because it's on

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Speaker 3: and some of them were constructed in a more shallow

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Speaker 3: you can't even fit a credit card between. As the

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Speaker 3: old adage goes, it was advanced technology. I inherited the

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Speaker 3: creator of Stonehenge fro more than twenty five years from

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Speaker 3: the nineteen forties way up to the nineteen sixties. He

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Speaker 3: what a henge is. It's a really big chalk white

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Speaker 3: like you do today. It was hidden behind this massive

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Speaker 3: out into the chalk bedrock, the solid chalk bedrock in

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Speaker 3: that was the technology. And we are told antlers were

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Speaker 3: just to build the Henge bank alone. And some of

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Speaker 3: at Stonehenge weighs ninety five tons, so that tonnet of

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Speaker 3: material for the large stones at Stonehenge came from about

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Speaker 3: the stones, and some of them came from Wales, the Bluestones,

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Speaker 2: Wow. Now when you talk about the healing properties of Stonehenge,

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Speaker 2: what kind of healing properties might they be?

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Speaker 3: That's interesting because again if I refer to the notes

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Speaker 3: there's one stone set in there, Trilathon fifty one and

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Speaker 3: arm into that stone at Stonehenge, and he sat miraculously.

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Speaker 3: Even in a drought, even in hot weather, that hole

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Speaker 3: know how that happened. It wasn't rainwater, because it would

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Speaker 3: happen in a drought. And people used to gather from near,

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Speaker 3: and they claimed that they had miraculous healing effects. So

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Speaker 3: what did the Ministry of Works do? That was the

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Speaker 3: Works did under a government directive was to fill that

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Speaker 3: hole of the miraculously healing water with plastic and concrete.

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Speaker 3: And even to this day you can see where it's

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Speaker 3: has caused water erosion on that stone. Could you imagine

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Speaker 3: if that was back to its original Guys, today people

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Speaker 3: receiving healing at the Age Old Healing Temple of mentioned

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Speaker 2: These healing properties, Maria kind of remind me like lords

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Speaker 3: Exactly. It is like lords in France. And that's a

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Speaker 3: great analogy because that's the power of Stone Henge. It

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Speaker 3: does have healing aspects to it. Even the blue stones

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Speaker 3: circle of Stone Henge, they're three times more magnetic than

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Speaker 3: magnetic properties as well. And if you place that above

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Speaker 3: earth energies and there's a form of earth energy, there's

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Speaker 3: a circular shape. Hence lots of stone circles being of

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Speaker 3: that circular shape. It's a bit like putting an acupuncture

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Speaker 3: needle into a meridian line. Suddenly that stone starts to

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Speaker 3: emit and release infrasound and ultrasound. I've measured these at Stonehenge,

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Speaker 3: George recently for a film actually, and some of those

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Speaker 3: ripple effects. Imagine that stone in the earth energy and

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Speaker 3: a pond. Some of those ripples are one three three herts,

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Speaker 3: which is a very healing aspect of ultrasound. And another

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Speaker 3: signal that remeasures was two eight five hertz. That's the hurts,

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Speaker 3: the infrequency that can help repair damaged DNA. So that's

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Speaker 3: all happening at Stonehengs through the stones being placed into

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Speaker 3: they do not release those signals. So the ancients did

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Speaker 3: they hear the sounds beneath the ground because of their

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Speaker 3: creating a healing center like no other in the world.

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Speaker 2: Well with Maria Wheatley, who website is linked up at

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Speaker 2: Coast tocoastam dot comer book is called The Secret History

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Speaker 2: of Stonehenge. We'll talk about the Knight's Templar in it

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Speaker 2: just a moment as well. How do you think stonehengs

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Speaker 2: You got its medicinal powers.

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Speaker 3: You got its medicinal powers because of the very unusual

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Speaker 3: and highly active earth energies in that area. So the

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Speaker 3: ancients chose it because of the very deep aquifers that

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Speaker 2: Who in the world taught the ancients this?

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Speaker 3: That's really interesting. It's like which came first, the chicken

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Speaker 3: or the egg. It's really a very complex question. I

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Speaker 3: think they were maybe given this or awareness by our

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Speaker 3: this awareness and they realized that they could decode the world.

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Speaker 3: So if you look at the earth energies beneath Stonehenge,

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Speaker 3: for example, it's a very similar tenplate beneath the Great Pyramids,

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Speaker 3: you will have very similar earth energies and these earth

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Speaker 3: energies also equate to musical harmonics. It's almost like it's

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Speaker 3: such an advanced science that it was given to these

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Speaker 3: people to make different temples across the world. I think

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Speaker 3: the ancient world was very connected to one another because

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Speaker 3: they use the same template. How big is Stonehenge, Maria

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Speaker 3: stonehenges diameter isn't that big. It's about one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eight feet in diameter, whereas Avebury Henge, seventeen miles to

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Speaker 3: the north that contains the world's largest stone circle, is

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Speaker 3: one thousand and eighty eight feet in diameter.

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Speaker 2: That's significantly larger.

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Speaker 3: You could fit ten stonehenges into Avery.

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Speaker 2: How big are the blocks.

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Speaker 3: It's huge, it's much much. The blocks are weigh about

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Speaker 3: thirteen tons, they're about twenty three feet tall. And they

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Speaker 3: do have a very subtle presence about them. What do

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Speaker 3: I mean by that? When you stand by these stones,

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Speaker 3: you do experience their energies being release time and time again.

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Speaker 3: I've taken hundreds of people to Stonehenge and stood by

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Speaker 3: these stones. People feel something being released by them.

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Speaker 2: Just it's truly remarkable.

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Speaker 3: It is. And Stonehenge also has a presence with the

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Speaker 3: military because surrounding Stonehenge, there are military establishment after military establishment,

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Speaker 3: and a bit like your area fifty one in Nevada, USA,

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Speaker 3: for example, very close to Stonehenge is the equivalent of that.

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Speaker 3: The mod the Mystery of Defense has an area there

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Speaker 3: is a no go area for civilians, and upon that

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Speaker 3: area you have numerous sacred sites and barrows that contain

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Speaker 3: long skulled people. Is highly active with earth energies. That's

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Speaker 3: why the military is there.

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Speaker 2: Maria, how do you think they move thirteen ton locks?

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Speaker 3: How did they move there? That's the age old question

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Speaker 3: some earth energies, twenty five HRTs kept coming up in

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Speaker 3: particular types of earth currents. These are like serpentine rivers

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Speaker 3: of energy, but they're not water their energy, but they

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Speaker 3: meander like a river. Measuring those twenty five hurts kept appearing.

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Speaker 3: If the ancients could manipulate sound, and I think they

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Speaker 3: could because of their ear placement, I've described perhaps even

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Speaker 3: listening to the admissions coming from the stone to eighteen herts,

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Speaker 3: we hear at twenty and they could, so I manipulate

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Speaker 3: the sound, then what I think is happening is they

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Speaker 3: manipulated it to twenty five killer hurts, which is the

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Speaker 3: frequency of levitation. So that's what I think they were doing,

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Speaker 3: manipulating the sound in the ground so that it would

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Speaker 3: make the stone lighter, enabling it to be moved.

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Speaker 2: How did we lose the information? What happened to it?

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Speaker 3: I don't think we lost it. I think it got

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Speaker 3: handed down to the druids of the Iron Age that's

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty BC up into the Roman invasion.

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Speaker 3: Then I think it got handed down to the Templars,

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Speaker 3: to the Masons, to the mystery schools, because sacred geometry,

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Speaker 3: the awareness of earth energy, sacred architecture has always prevailed

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Speaker 3: throughout the Christian period in their Gothic cathedrals, for example.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it became lost. I think it

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Speaker 3: became repressed in particular secret societies.

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Speaker 2: Devastating. It's just truly one of the most remarkable sights

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Speaker 2: on the planet, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I think it is. And it does change your consciousness

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Speaker 3: the moment that you enter stoneheand all of those sound

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Speaker 3: frequencies that you can't hear, for example, are influencing your soul,

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Speaker 3: your spirit, your physical body, your emotional body. It opens

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Speaker 3: up the third eye as well. People have experienced a

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Speaker 3: lot of psychic visions at Stonehenge. It is truly remarkable

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Speaker 3: and it alters our state of consciousness.

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