WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Countdown - Ep. 2 (4/1) 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.759 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.840 by Amazon Web Services. E a Ethan Greenberg here on 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.160 the pod. On today's episode, we're talking draft. We're talking 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:31.040 potential trade up options, potential trade back options, and sandwich 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.600 between those two. Olivia Land is caught up with NFL 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.800 Network Steve White so e A. First of all, it's 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.920 a beautiful day today here on April Fool's Day, Wednesday, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.199 the first of April. Greenings, I pumped. Listen. Anytime the 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.919 weather is like this, we get an opportunity to get outside, 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.320 get some solitary exercise, no doubt about that. I don't 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.840 even like to call it social distancing anymore. It's physical distancing. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.840 Make sure you're able to get outside. Smile somebody, um again. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.280 I'm so part to be able to talk out of 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.480 foul football. We're winding down free agency, I would say, Greens, 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.000 and you know we've by gearing up the podcast towards 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.039 the draft. We have some exciting analysts coming on in 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.520 the weeks ahead. Uh. You know, it's a good day, man. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.280 The great thing about the draft staying put April is 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.560 that it gives us something to look forward to, given 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.640 that there really are no sports going around. It was 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.479 just announced that Wimbledon is now canceled. But without further ado, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.080 let's talk about the draft. The Jets hold the eleventh 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.680 pick in the first round, the eleventh pick overall, and 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.119 in every mock draft or most mock drafts, they don't 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.600 project trade and we're not going to project what the 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.720 Jets will do, but we're gonna talk about a couple 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.440 of hypothetical situations on where it could make sense for 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.360 the Jets to move up. And let's start in the 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:52.840 first round. And I know that most pundon's think that 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.880 the Jets are probably taking a receiver or an offensive tackle. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.440 And in terms of the tackles, the Jets might not 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.920 have their selection and that they want at eleven if 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.280 they ship back and let the draft come to them, 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.520 So they might have to turn a little aggressive and 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.440 leap frog a couple of teams to get one of 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.880 these guys. The A yeah, and I'm I'm sure that 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:18.200 Joe Douglas, Rex Hogan, Phil sav and Chad Alexander and company. Listen, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.639 they're setting their board and they're not going to reach. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.120 You cannot reach at any point in the draft. The 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.160 tie goes to position and need no doubt about that. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.560 And when we look at the Jets, Greens will continue 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.959 to say it is four needs stick out at you 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.760 right now. Offensively you mentioned wide receiver and tackle, of course, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.520 and then defensively, cornerback and edge will continue to be 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.560 an emphasis. I don't think that's going to change. I 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.600 like the Jets position at number eleven, but if you 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.680 love a guy, Greens, then you go up and get him. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:00.560 I would imagine it's probably unlikely. I think it's more 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.520 likely as we sit here today that the Jets stay 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.680 there or possibly even moved back. But in the scenario 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.080 as we talk about it at the start of the show, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.359 is could they move up? Yeah, I think that if 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.320 they do decide to move up, and obviously this is 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.639 just hypothetical, the teams that you're looking to leap frog 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:26.240 probably include the Arizona Cardinals at eight. Most likely include 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.919 the Cleveland Browns at ten. If you're trying to peg 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.640 which teams are selecting offensive linemen, and I know a 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.400 couple of months ago, Dane Brugler of the Athletic had 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.160 a mock draft trade where the Jets actually went up 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.800 from eleven to seven with the Carolina Panthers leap frogging 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.880 then both the Cleveland Browns at ten and the Arizona 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:51.040 Cardinals at eight. But I wonder what your thoughts are 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.040 on it. I know that I don't remember the exact 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.440 compensation in this hypothetical, but I know for a fact 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.880 that it was at least one of the third round picks, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.280 whether that was the Giants original pick that's now the 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.080 Jets because of the Leonard william trades at sixty eight, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.760 which is the third pick in that round, or their 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.480 own pick at pick seventy nine. But what do you 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.920 think about going up from eleven to seven as far 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.640 as compensation? And I'm not sure, like I think it 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.359 would cost you at least the three it's gonna cost 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.400 you more than that, frankly. But we should keep in 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.560 mind here at Green's, the Jets have the four picks 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.200 in the top seventy nine, and you just told me 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.080 before we started taping, and those act the exact numbers 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:38.839 are eleven seventy nine, yet two in the third round. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.839 I'm kind of looking at teams you mentioned Carolina and 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.320 the Dane Brewler example very interesting because that's a team 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.880 that's starting their program right. They have a new coach Um. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.799 They parted ways with Cam Newton in the off season, 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.120 broad in former Jet Robby Anderson, who played under Rule 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.680 at Temple. But that team is kind of in a 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:04.320 trade transition period. So would they want to stockpile Arizona? 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.520 They landed the big time receiver, maybe arguably the top 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.839 receiver in the National Football League already in DeAndre Hopkins. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.000 Do they want to add another tackle the next even 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.039 though they did that as well in the spring. And 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.200 that's sitting right in front of the Jets. Two intriguing 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:25.640 teams are Jacksonville and Cleveland because Jacksonville, much like Carolina. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.720 I know it's not the first year of that program 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.200 per se, but they've done a lot of house cleaning 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.039 their greens and stockpiling picks, and the trade might be 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.680 on the way for Jonnick and got Way. And then 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.560 you have Cleveland sitting there at ten. I'm almost assured 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.920 right now as we sit here yet Cleveland is going 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.600 to take a tackle. Cleveland will take a tackle, whether 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:55.359 whether they're picking a ten or they moved up. I 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.719 think the most interesting thing about the Cleveland Browns in 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.719 terms of a tackle is they signed Jack Conklin, who 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.880 was the right tackle for the Titans. He played left 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.320 tackle in college. So I wonder, like, does that limit 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.760 who the Browns are gonna take, Like do you think 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.480 that they would take a peer left tackle or somebody 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.840 that at least has experience on the left side, like 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.640 Andrew Thomas and McKay Beckton, Whereas somebody like Jeddrick Wills, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.880 who's ranked by a lot of people as the drafts 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.239 top tackle, maybe he's not as high on their board 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.680 because they don't they don't know if if they wanna 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.080 make him make that transition to the left side. Like 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.880 I think that's a fascinating debate. But the one thing 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.040 that I think that's going overshadowed here when you look 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.200 at the Jets, they do have ammunition with four picks 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.840 in the top seventy nine, But to me, where does 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.279 that come into play? And might not necessarily be the 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.960 first round? And this is Chad Reuter of NFL dot 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.320 Com talked about this. He actually pegged the Jets as 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.760 a potential trade target to go back into the first 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.200 round at pick number thirty one with the nine is 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.760 because the Niners don't have a second round pick, or 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.240 I think it was a second through fourth round pick, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.400 they don't. They need some capital there, and the Jets 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.160 definitely have the capital to jump up. I think that's 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.960 a fascinating idea that we haven't talked about. Well, of 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.800 course not because everybody, as you know so well brings 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.240 speaks in terms of the draft as it basically ends 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.640 after the first round, while there's seven rounds, and then 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.600 you have your priority undrafted free agents that you get 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.800 on the horn with and hope to bring in a 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:38.280 few and hidden John's per se and maybe guys there's 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.240 a lot of good players in the National Football League 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.560 who did not get drafted. But yeah, that's what I'm 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.840 thinking about. I'm glad you brought up that example because 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:53.240 I don't think, okay, necessarily that's the most likely scenario 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:58.400 is going up from eleven. It's actually later on in 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.680 the draft. Is it pacage in one of those threes 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.880 or two of those threes to do something down the line, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.200 maybe getting back up into the first round, which uh 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:14.840 your example noted Jed Rude from NFL dot Com, or 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.960 or doing some work there in the second round. Because 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.480 this draft has a lot of depth at certain positions 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.520 that extends well beyond that first round. So when we 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.960 think about trade up, I know people automatically go, oh, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.880 eleven up. I don't think necessarily we should just think 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.160 that way we gotta expand our horizons. Is that where 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.720 you could potentially see the Jets moving up our roums 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.920 two and three and even on that third day four. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.520 So it's even this is kind of like a guessing 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.960 game because Joe Douglas is it's his first year as 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.000 general manager, so we don't know his tendencies. But everybody 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.200 that we've spoken to from the time Joe was hired 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.719 to president, which includes stop at the Senior Bowl and 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.600 the Ambine and other ten pole events, everyone says, well, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.640 look at his past stops, particularly Ozzy knew some more 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.880 so than Howie Roseman in Philadelphia. But just looking at 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.240 those two guys in terms of trading back into the 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.880 first round and trading up to get the guy you want, well, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.120 how about this the Ravens Ozzy Knewsome's last draft talked 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.800 about going out with a bang. He traded back into 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.440 the first round to select the m v P of 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.760 last season in Lamar Jackson, and then Howie Roseman. When 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.959 the Eagles selected Dallas Goddard in the second round. They 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.080 leap frog to d Alice Cowboys. The Eagles wanted Andre 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.839 Dillard last season. I believe they leap frog the Houston Texans. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.120 So you're not necessarily looking at top of the line, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.440 top of the draft trades. But to what we're talking about, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.640 it wouldn't shock me if Joe Douglas and the staff says, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.599 you know what, we really want that guy and he's available, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.280 let's say late second round to package one of the 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.319 those third round picks to get that guy, that would 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.439 not surprise me. Into your point, I think that could 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.680 be more likely than and trading up from eleven, but 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.360 we shall see. And on the other side, we're gonna 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.640 talk about potential trade back options because it seems like 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.320 that might be more likely for the jet But without 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:17.640 further ado, here's Olivia Landis and Steve White. Obviously, with 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.720 the coronavirus pandemic going around, this has had a lot 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.559 of effects on not only football but sports in general. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:29.160 But when we look at the NFL specifically, with free 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.520 agency already underway and the NFL Draft coming up soon, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.040 what kind of effects or lasting effects do you think 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.400 this will have on the league? In regards to free 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.839 agency and the draft. Yeah, this is this is gonna 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.800 have you know, several different impacts. First off, as horrible 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.480 as it may sound, the NFL is catching a break. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.880 I mean, look, major League Baseball was supposed to start 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.360 the NBA and NHL where mid season. The NFL is 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.920 kind of on its normal calendar, so games and things 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.080 like that are not being impacted. But like you said, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.600 free agency and the draft, the biggest impact will be 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.720 on the medical issues for these draft picks and for 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.160 some of these free agents. And let's use Cam Newton 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:10.760 as an example. I mean, this is one of the 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.040 best players in the NFL. He is a man without 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:18.040 a team right now, in part because teams they can't 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.080 get their own doctors in to look at him for 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.120 that foot surgery and the shoulder surgery. I mean, he's 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.760 putting out videos, he's doing what he can. I'm sure 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.120 he's providing a lot of medical reports to teams. But 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.200 it's gonna be interesting to see how this slow played. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.720 Same for the draft. I don't think it would affect 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.080 someone like to a Tongue Viola's draft status. I think 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.920 he's gonna be a top five pick regardless because the 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.720 teams that may draft him have a bridge quarterback that 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.800 could play a season if need be, like Ryan Fitzpatrick 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.440 in Miami or Tyrod Taylor with the Chargers. But for 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.520 some late round guys or mid round guys, the fact 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.800 that they can't get these medicals, a fact that teams 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.000 can't get their hands on these guys or do medical rechecks, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.000 that's going to cause a problem. And and the biggest 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.680 thing with this we've heard for years, um the teams 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.480 with the most experienced and the deepest scouting departments always 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.079 do well. That's gonna be hugely important because now teams 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.240 can't bring in guys for interviews. They are going on 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.320 their in person scouting when they view these guys and 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.720 practices and games in the fall, and film and then 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.800 some of these video interviews like you and I are 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.640 doing now. So it's it's gonna be a lot tougher 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.640 to evaluate players because they can't look at them. I 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.520 can't get the medicals. There's gonna be some misses, but 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.800 there's always gonna be some surprise hits. Well, you mentioned 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.800 the NFL draft. I want to dive a little bit 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.880 deeper into that. I know how you said the medical 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.720 part is going to play a big role in free agency. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.160 But when it comes to the draft with some of 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.080 these players, is it also safe to say that free 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.000 agency and how that affects those players because that can 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.800 then maybe cause an effect in the draft for teams. Well, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.920 that's in any year. Like we saw right now, how 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.199 the Bengals, the Chargers, and the Dolphins didn't go out 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.680 and sign a free agent quarterback, even though the Chargers 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.360 made a run at Tom Brady, So that tips to 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:11.360 hand that that's likely the position they're gonna draft early. Okay, so, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.840 but but this isn't any given year. Some teams fill 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.600 the voids like the like the Colts. Instead of them 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.400 drafting a quarterback at thirteen or trading up for it, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.640 they traded for defensive tackle the Forrest Buckner and signed 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.080 Philip Rivers. So those are two positions in the first 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.960 round where they don't have a first round pick, But 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.559 those are two positions that they're probably not going to 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.520 address in the early part of the draft because they 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.480 dealt with those in free agency. So that's a lot 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.240 of the domino with this. Then we see a team 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.560 like the Patriots drafting twenty three overall, they lose Tom Brady, 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.800 They've made some subtle moves and you know, they signing 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.720 a veteran quarterback. They've got yards stood him there. But 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.679 there's still gonna be a position to draft a quarterback 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.480 or to trade for one, let's say, for Derek Carr. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.800 I don't think that's gonna happen. I'm throwing out there hypothetically, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.640 but but that's just the dominoes that are that are 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.600 still in play, because we're gonna see some trades on 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.240 Draft Day because some of these teams, like the Dolphins 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.400 and Rators have got plenty of draft equity to move 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.280 up and down. The forty nine is the same, um, 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.120 but that part of it's not going to be greatly 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.000 impacted by what's going on right now. I want to 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.440 dive a little bit more specifically into what you do, Steve. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.640 You're all over the NFL, You've been covering it for 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.200 many years now. How has this impacted the way you've 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.680 been able to cover all of these teams and what's 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.800 been going on? Well? Big time. Um. You know, look, normally, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.040 you know, based in Los Angeles, but at this moment, 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.520 I would be in Florida at the NFL's owners meetings. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.760 I mean they're they're discussing a lot of things right now, 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:41.520 like adding an extra playoff game, expanding the Rooney rule, 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.360 there's a lot of you know, how they're going to 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.720 deal with are the season right now? Um, but we're home, Okay. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.480 Everything is teleconference. These owners are doing this video conferencing, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.760 and so that impacted we to our studios are closed. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.320 We can't get in there. Like nobody's traveling. We don't 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.440 have like our total access shows are Good Morning Football. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.560 We can't have studio shows live right now because of 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.760 the social distancing and just some of you know, the 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.200 NFL has gone above and beyond which some of the 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.840 governmental orders are in terms of just shuttering the building 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:17.920 and everybody working remotely. So technologically it's tough. Um, some 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.640 things I'm doing, like I am recording and I am doing, 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.400 um a couple of live projects. But what this is 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.560 forced me to do, and I kind of love it 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.680 because I'm an old writer. This is forced me now 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.720 to do some things on the written platform. So digitally, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.440 you know, I've got a couple of projects coming out 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.240 this week that would be digital accompanied by video processes 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.640 which might be easier for because of some of our 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.520 technological things to get out on the web. Um, easier 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.000 than maybe do it you know, broadcast wise, you know, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.600 into that vertical Um, just because some of the technological 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.240 things we're dealing with operating remotely. Yeah, I love that. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.600 I had no idea that you were an avid writer. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.720 Can we get like a little sneak peek or or 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.360 do we have to wait? Well? I will be Actually 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.160 I've got a big piece coming out in NFL dot 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:09.200 com tomorrow, um about what players are doing right now, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:14.480 how they're staying in shape. Um. It's it's interesting, um 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.840 because right now guys usually are with private trainers, but 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.200 draft picks a lot of them are training at their universe, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.160 usually training at their universities. They're closed right now, so 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.560 what are they doing? You know, nobody knows when this 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.360 is gonna start. So some trainers I spoke with there 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.000 being very careful about not pushing guys like they normally 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.400 would because O. T A s typically start in April, right, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.080 so they'd be getting guys in prime shape. So when 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.000 they step on the field in April, they're not pulling 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.600 any muscles in this and that. Well, they're not pushing 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.600 that hard right now because O, T, A, S and 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.640 all in. Many camps are suspended indefinitely. Suppose they don't 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.080 come until June. They want to burn a guy out, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.600 so by the time they get to June, they've got 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.520 nothing left. So it's a really interesting piece on what 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.640 some guys are doing they try to stay in shape, 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.720 to manage things, and how a bunch of young men 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.640 and their twenties are social distancing in their free time. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.520 I mean, sure some of them are still playing video games. Yeah, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.159 but these guys aren't hanging out or doing things that 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.800 they normally do. So I've got a really cool piece 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.800 on that coming up, looking forward to it real quickly. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.080 Where can people find that so when people watch this 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.320 they know where to find your stuff? Yeah, to be 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.960 on NFL dot com and I'm sure we'll we'll put 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.160 links out on the NFL Media, NFL Network and on 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.720 my Twitter platform social platforms. I'm at whiteh W y 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.760 C H E eight nine Old Jersey number perfect. We 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.160 can't can't wait to see it. It's a very interesting piece. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.760 I'm glad somebody's talking about it because, like you said, 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.880 this isn't something we've seen ever before. So each guy 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.399 has to be handling it differently, you know, especially when 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.480 you think of some of these guys just coming into 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.400 the league, some of the guys that are getting ready 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.720 to get drafted, compared to the guys who have been 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.800 around for a little bit longer. And let's not kid ourselves. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.160 Even though they're in the NFL, there are some players 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.600 who need some structure and we need to be kind 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.880 of under somebody's thumb to work out diligently. Yeah something 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.000 right now, who are sitting around working out two or 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.879 three times a week and you know, ordering from late 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.520 night pizza and eat and Cheetos, who aren't staying in 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.680 the proper shape, They're gonna be exposed. So it's it's 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.520 gonna be real interesting to see how guys handled this offseason. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.119 Who's really committed. Um, let's let's not kid ourselves. I mean, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.760 this is a boon for these private trainers. These guys 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.199 are gonna make it a ton of money because these 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.120 guys are gonna because good players are gonna be paying 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.680 them to keep them in shape. Um Whereas again, normally 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.080 these guys would be working out with their teams by 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.920 mid April because of O T A so just another 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.000 adjustment people are gonna have to make. It's kind of 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.640 a lot like the lockout year in two thousand eleven 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.600 and players were locked out. There was still a draft, 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.760 but nobody had any place to go. And then in 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.560 July when everything got settled, late Russian training camp conditioning 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.520 season started. Wasn't the prettiest of football for two or 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:54.960 three weeks, but then everything kind of came together. Thank 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.120 you to Olivia and thank you to Steve always great 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.480 here from Mr Whitch of NFL Network and e A. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.600 Let's now talk about the trade back options. And again 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.440 let's start at eleven because that's the jets first election. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.440 And what hypothetical scenario should I say, do you envision 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.280 a trade back being likely for Joe Douglass and the Jets? Well, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:20.360 let's just play this out. Todd mcshay's latest mock draft. 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:25.120 He had the Jets going for the fantastic receiver out 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:29.280 of Alabama, Jerry Judy. We've been talking all along that 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:34.080 who's gonna be playing across from Perryman? Now, h Perryman, 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.040 you would think that he takes the spot of Robbie Anderson. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.480 And we know Jamison Crowd is still in the mix, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.679 and then there's some question marks as far as Quincy 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.240 Nowton was howth Also, Vincent Smith is a young guy 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.879 who's showed some things, especially last season, coming in and 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.360 playing and things like that. But not to get off 0:19:54.440 --> 0:20:02.440 point is the McShay scenario is an instance where maybe 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.920 the trade down makes sense because look at the names 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:14.480 that he has at twelve through fifteen Greens twelve he 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.920 has Ceedee Lamb going right after Jerry Judy out of 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.560 Oklahoma to the Las Vegas Raiders. Nanny sticks with that 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.359 receiver position. He says that the Jets are going to 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.280 start the run of receivers. San Francisco uses that pick 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.080 they just acquired from the Colts and they take Henry 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.640 Ruggs does Speedster the absolute burner out of Alabama. Then 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.480 the Buccaneers at fourteen go McKay Beckton. That tackle out 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.680 of Lois Bo started at the right side and then 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:44.760 finished up on the left side. We know that. And 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:51.440 then Andrew Thomas goes to the Broncos at fifteen. At sixteen, 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.639 you're talking about Javon kim Law from South Carolina, the 0:20:55.720 --> 0:21:00.919 interior Menace going to Atlanta. But that's a run of 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.960 five or six pick screens where you're like, I could 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:07.840 see potentially all those guys fitting in with the New 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.880 York tests. And on the other side of that, there 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.879 have been mocked drafts where three or four of the 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.280 top offensive tackles have come off the board by the 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.560 time the Jets are on the clock at eleven. So 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.720 it wouldn't surprise me if maybe if that's the case, 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.160 Joe Douglas and his stafford like, you know what, let's 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.760 trade back a couple of spots. Maybe somebody wants to 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:30.760 come up for the top receiver. I know. I saw 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.240 a mock draft that had the Broncos going from fifteen 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.040 to eleven so they could have their pick of the 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.960 litter at receiver, and then the Jets ended up selecting 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:41.800 I don't remember who it was, and I think it 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.240 was actually Jeddrick Wills felt to fifteen in this mock draft. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.679 And then I saw another mock draft where the Jets 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.840 actually traded back with the Falcons at sixteen. Who came 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.520