WEBVTT - Mick Shots: The Pads Come On

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, This is nick

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<v Speaker 1>shot streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys have and now your hosts, Mickey Spagnola, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Newton, and Bill Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, what a beautiful morning in southern California. We're at

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<v Speaker 2>the corner of Ventura and Vineyard in Oxnard, California, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is day number two of padded practices. Here for

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<v Speaker 2>your Dallas Cowboys, Bill Jones, along with the star of

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<v Speaker 2>our show, Mickey Spagnola and really now the star of

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<v Speaker 2>our show, just arriving about thirty six hours ago on

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<v Speaker 2>that long drive west, Nathaniel Newton is here. Hello, Nate,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited ever since. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>taking your job. I'm just sitting in your seat. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>It's about time you got here.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the way I look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was anybody hitting. I saw a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>guys arounding that underwear.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard the head coach yesterday he said that the

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<v Speaker 2>real training camp, training camp really starts Todaynday right, and Nate,

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<v Speaker 2>I I said, well, why didn't you tell us that

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<v Speaker 2>a week ago with my TV station could have saved

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money and we would have just shown

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<v Speaker 2>up yesterday. See Nate's the veteran here. Yeah, he's smart.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows exactly when to show up for camp.

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<v Speaker 3>And man, it was a great first day, two fellas,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you liked it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a Chris great first day, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>coach McCarthy did a great job and not only telling

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<v Speaker 4>us as media that ten padded practices, I think he

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<v Speaker 4>got that over to his players because the temple was

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<v Speaker 4>great yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're hesitant to say that any team has a

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<v Speaker 2>Chris practice.

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<v Speaker 4>So the first day definitely, definitely you look for a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of errors, and the parts of practice I saw

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<v Speaker 4>did see a lot of errors. It seemed like they

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<v Speaker 4>kept the plays limited a small number so guys could

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<v Speaker 4>really concentrate on what they needed to do and be

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<v Speaker 4>physical and it turned out pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I thought, you know, usually when you have

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<v Speaker 5>that first padded practice, the defense really dominates. I thought

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<v Speaker 5>both sides did a nice job out there. Defense got

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<v Speaker 5>some pressure on the quarterback when they were blitzing and

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<v Speaker 5>when Parsons was rushing, and then the offense made plays,

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<v Speaker 5>made some nice runs, a couple of deep passes. I

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<v Speaker 5>thought Dak and CD were right on point most of

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<v Speaker 5>the day. So yeah, I thought overall, for a first

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<v Speaker 5>padded practice of training camp, and as Nate said, you

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<v Speaker 5>only get ten of them, I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 5>really good day for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I should also add we have producers Supreme Chris Beam

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<v Speaker 2>Beam as well.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave me a thing too. I want to say this.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave me some stuff and I asked him how

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<v Speaker 4>much he is? What did it cost for my ear

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<v Speaker 4>floats and all of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? And he said you can just keep him while

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<v Speaker 3>you're out here in camp.

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<v Speaker 5>While you're out here in camp, yeah, he won't get.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Chris, super producer. Did you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know this about producer Supreme Chris Beam What

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<v Speaker 2>is that? He has got to be a world champion

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<v Speaker 2>corn hole player?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? He is.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen him play? He and Isaiah Standbeck were

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<v Speaker 2>out here last night, huh, and they yelled at me

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<v Speaker 2>from a distance, so I came over. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>make seventy five percent of your throat.

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<v Speaker 5>He's amazing, so that's what I heard the pounding when

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<v Speaker 5>I had my windows over last night, all the way

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<v Speaker 5>over there and Building nineteen and stand back is not.

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<v Speaker 2>A bad player, but it was like every single time

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<v Speaker 2>I've I watched him make how many how many throws

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<v Speaker 2>are in one round? Eight?

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<v Speaker 5>Four?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean four? And I saw two rounds he made

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<v Speaker 2>six out eight.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it was amazing, like right in the hole

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<v Speaker 5>on the board, so on the fly or sliding in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like he's down. Now we know what he

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<v Speaker 2>does all day, right, I mean the corner hole game

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<v Speaker 2>is right around the corner right over here, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he does all day. So he spent all off

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<v Speaker 2>season doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's amazing talking about giving me to play him, so

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<v Speaker 5>we finally got got time to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>At who won? What do you think he was pulling

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<v Speaker 2>the curtain back behind the score.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the last game because it was getting out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm asking him about that, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So Mickey, did you go in your bike ride

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<v Speaker 2>this morning?

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<v Speaker 5>Stationary bike? Stationary bike because this starts at like eight o'clock,

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<v Speaker 5>so to take a well.

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<v Speaker 2>Last Tuesday you on a bike ride or Wednesday? It

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<v Speaker 2>was last Wednesday? Wednesday? The first day we did the show.

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<v Speaker 5>When I had a flat time we had a flat tire. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>well that's probably gonna factor that into the workout equation, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So I figured to do that. I have to get

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<v Speaker 5>up like at five point thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, Nate, Hell was your drive out here?

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<v Speaker 3>It was nice.

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<v Speaker 4>I took off and about ten o'clock Saturday and drove

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<v Speaker 4>all the way to about eight or nine that evening.

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<v Speaker 4>I got the Demons Arizona, pulled over and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>got some sleeping, and got up the morning at five

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<v Speaker 4>and came on in just having fun stopping.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like my mom and dad or my grandfathered

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<v Speaker 4>them when they used to stop and take twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>minutes just to gas up, walk around and see the

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<v Speaker 4>same type stuff over and over, the little souvenirs in

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<v Speaker 4>each little town.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was great. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm refreshed, I'm ready to go. It's just like I

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<v Speaker 4>jumped on the plane and jumped.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, and you're gonna be out here for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the time.

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<v Speaker 4>All the way to the eighteen all right, all the

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<v Speaker 4>way to the eighteenth of August.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, so you're gonna have a break here when we

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<v Speaker 5>go back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you to Colorado, drive down to see Dion and

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<v Speaker 4>then come back.

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<v Speaker 5>Come back. That's wrong, Just go to Colorado. How long

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<v Speaker 5>is the drive?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know his driving happening?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I do, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>How have you looked at it? How long is the

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<v Speaker 2>drive from?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably about eight nine maybe ten hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're going through preseason training.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to see that at least ten hours, right, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he's doing all right, He's doing great.

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<v Speaker 3>I spoke with him about a week ago after second

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<v Speaker 3>surgery and he's doing well.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, the doctor comes right to the office where

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<v Speaker 4>he's at early in the morning check him out. And

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<v Speaker 4>he's rehabbing and he had to go into both close

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<v Speaker 4>not all you know, just right outside is growing into

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<v Speaker 4>both eyes and go down and pull the clocks out

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<v Speaker 4>right in his quad lower quad. So he's doing fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>You're looking forward to going into the Big twelve next year?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>He told me that about a month ago that he

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<v Speaker 4>was going into the Big twelve, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of so I could break that story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the thing about it is, I don't like to

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<v Speaker 4>be that one. You know, He's like, don't break it Nate.

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<v Speaker 4>He said it kind of laughingly, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I don't want to take a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to say, you know, so I should have called you

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<v Speaker 4>a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I got some inside. Big twelve is the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 3>is it is gonna be a good I think conference.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody's coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Dennis Thurman is on his staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He was. He was at Jackson State with him too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how I know that?

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<v Speaker 5>How did you know that you ran into him?

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<v Speaker 2>Because well I knew that he was with him at

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson State. I didn't realize he's got friends in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>But I interviewed Stefan Gilmour yesterday and loved it. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was it was. You know, he's a quiet guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephan is a quiet guy, but if you get him,

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<v Speaker 2>if you hit his hut buttons, you know, he'll start talking.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went back and looked us at his history

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<v Speaker 2>with Buffalo. You know, the guy that probably made as

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<v Speaker 2>big an impact as anybody on Stefan Gilmore in his

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<v Speaker 2>career in the NFL was Dennis Thurmott.

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<v Speaker 5>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Thurman was the defensive coordinator with the Bills in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and sixteen, and that's Gilmore's third and fourth year in Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 2>and he made the Pro Bowl in sixteen, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he went to New England after that, and in seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>in New England they go to the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 2>lost to Philadelphia. At eighteen, they win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen, Gilmore wins the NFL Defensive Player of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year award. But he said that Dennis Thurman was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that really he learned a lot from him and

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<v Speaker 2>it really put him over the top in his career.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Dennis's coordinator, coordinator over the information. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what you call in college guys that gather information

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<v Speaker 4>due to out work, do the film work. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what you call those guys. But he's the coordinator.

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<v Speaker 4>They got about six of those guys. He's the coordinator,

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<v Speaker 4>like quality control guy over the college. John very nice scouting,

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<v Speaker 4>so uh, he's big time. And him and him, him

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<v Speaker 4>and Dianna close because when Dion came home a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weeks ago after the first surgery, the guy that

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<v Speaker 4>was in the office was Dennis. You know, we called

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<v Speaker 4>him and was talking to him like Dennis, what's up?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>Like hey, man, I'm just here trying to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>everything is running right. And I got to look at

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<v Speaker 4>these players they talking about to see how they how

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<v Speaker 4>they fit, you know, like, okay, then like those the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was telling Stephan all about Thurman s thieves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah wow, And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave him a history. Listen. I felt good to

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<v Speaker 2>being able to tell him again about it.

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<v Speaker 5>So, uh and he can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>To meet Everson to Stepan, well.

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<v Speaker 3>He will yeah, yeah, he will meet Everton.

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<v Speaker 5>You also had your interview with Jerry. Yeah, was that

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<v Speaker 5>in the car wash yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>It was Saturday, specially for you.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that was oh that was Saturday that I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>They got Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>They ran Sunday night on all the stations. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry is amazing. He okay on just think of what

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<v Speaker 2>he did on Saturday. Okay. He had the opening ceremonies

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<v Speaker 2>out there and uh that's when he kissed them Bartie Trophy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they had practice and after practice, I bet you,

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<v Speaker 2>and even he was doing interviews on the field after

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<v Speaker 2>the opening ceremonies, he was doing interviews with the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>network was out here. It was back together Saturday all

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<v Speaker 2>across the on the NFL network and then on ESPN

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<v Speaker 2>he does something with that order over there, and then

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<v Speaker 2>after practice. There were probably close to ten TV stations

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<v Speaker 2>that he did. My interview with him went eight minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, five to eight minutes with in stations, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he gets on a plane and before he flew

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<v Speaker 2>and then he gets on a plane, flies to Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>and he's in the locker room and uh right before

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<v Speaker 2>aerol Spence went out there and so and then got back.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess at two o'clock in the morning. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 3>So who was who you thought was the tires that

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<v Speaker 3>the end?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Arospen.

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<v Speaker 2>Was going there.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see the fight. Mick told me. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>he should give his money back from what told me

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<v Speaker 3>that was.

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<v Speaker 5>A that was a whipping.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So what I just saw it on Twitter? So

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<v Speaker 2>what was all I had to see was I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the knockdowns on Twitter?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, they had all three of them.

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<v Speaker 2>People just illegally or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>They waved the three knockdown rule. Yeah, because it would

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<v Speaker 5>have been over earlier. Uh So, what was the best

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<v Speaker 5>thing Jerry told you? Oh? Or what was the most

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<v Speaker 5>important thing he told you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there wasn't anything controversial like there was yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>with when he talked to the writers about Ring of

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<v Speaker 2>Honor stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, a couple of coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>I decided not to not to go down the trite

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<v Speaker 2>Ring of Honor road with him. Although it has been

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<v Speaker 2>a long time since Gil Brant in twenty eighteen was

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<v Speaker 2>the last one I went to the Ring of Honor

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<v Speaker 2>and before that was Darren Woodson in twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's only been two and two in.

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<v Speaker 2>The last eight years, eight nine years. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you go back further than that, there's been two in

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<v Speaker 2>what twelve thirteen years? Right, So you know, one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been struck by just I liked listening to

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<v Speaker 2>serious NFL Radio and they've got a lot of former

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<v Speaker 2>GMS and former head coaches on there, and to a man,

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<v Speaker 2>those guys all talk about the Cowboys and say that

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<v Speaker 2>this they like this Cowboys roster, they love this Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff. And so that first question to him was, Jerry, I,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here in former GMS and coaches around the league

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<v Speaker 2>saying this is a Super Bowl roster. Do you agree?

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<v Speaker 2>And well, I like hearing that, and of course he's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna go on record and say.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, he agrees, I mean he's but he's right. If

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the roster, I mean, there's not many holes.

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<v Speaker 5>Obvious holes. They got to figure out the kicking deal.

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<v Speaker 5>But other than that, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, backup running back or the running back.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell him what they said about Elliott.

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<v Speaker 2>They there's a hole right there at who's they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pair with Tony Pollard in the backfield? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I look at Deuce Vaughan as a guy that I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw the.

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<v Speaker 5>Bursts, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's more of a gadget guy, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>start off with, especially in his NFL career, at his size,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he's going to make an impact his

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<v Speaker 2>rookie season. But you know, Ronald Jones now suspended the

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of games or violation of the performance enhancing

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<v Speaker 2>drug policy. You got Ronald Jones the running back.

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<v Speaker 3>You checked the wave of wire this morning. Oh sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was on.

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<v Speaker 5>He's still he's still here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Love him on the roster anyway. Final Rick o'dowdell and

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<v Speaker 2>Maleik Davis. But so I asked Jerry, I said, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>can you see a scenario where because that day Zeke

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<v Speaker 2>was was interviewing with the Patriots. I said, can you

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<v Speaker 2>see a scenario where Zeke could return to the Cowboys?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said that yes, as we get along into

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<v Speaker 2>the season. He used the term as we went along

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<v Speaker 2>into the season, he could. He hasn't closed the door

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<v Speaker 2>at all on that possibility. He brings a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>many ways to any NFL team and had nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>praise for him. But what he said was as we

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<v Speaker 2>get on into the season. That was what was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the terms that he used that kind of couched

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Well when I listened to it when he said that,

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<v Speaker 5>I took it as maybe not in training camp, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but as we move.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward and in the mindset of Jerry, is going into

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<v Speaker 2>the season means after.

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<v Speaker 5>They break camp right right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're starting to get into season mode then.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the other thing that gets a misconception when they

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<v Speaker 5>start talking big on some of these rookie free agents,

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<v Speaker 5>well they're not looking at it just as solely as

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<v Speaker 5>the fifty three. They're looking at it sixteen guys in

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<v Speaker 5>a practice squad, and we got to find those guys.

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<v Speaker 5>And a lot of times when he embellishes some of

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<v Speaker 5>those guys. It's for the practice squad two And there's

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of those guys that they basically gave him

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<v Speaker 5>guaranteed money, but the guarantee was to cover their practice

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<v Speaker 5>squad salary for a year. So when they do that,

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<v Speaker 5>then it's almost certain those guys are going to be

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<v Speaker 5>on the price.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've talked about it throughout the off season on Zeke.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go back and look at Zeke's season last year,

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<v Speaker 2>he was averaging four point one four point two yards

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<v Speaker 2>of carry right up until the Terrence Steel injury, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the last five games of the season he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>going anywhere in the running game. Tony Poller wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the running game. The whole running game fell

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<v Speaker 2>off at that point. They both averaged under three yards

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<v Speaker 2>of carry the last five games of the regular season

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And I don't when I look at this

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<v Speaker 2>roster behind Tony Pollard, who had nine rushing touchdowns last year,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where those other twelve rushing touchdowns are

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<v Speaker 2>coming from that zikad last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and if you look at it, I mean, if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna have the same kind of success in the red

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<v Speaker 2>zone that you had last year, Then you got to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to run the football down there.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought from the little bit that Malik Davis got

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<v Speaker 5>to play and it was only thirty eight carries for

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and sixty one yards in a touchdown, I

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<v Speaker 5>thought he had a little something for a rookie free

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<v Speaker 5>agent from Florida?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right? Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? And then rico' donell, we just don't get to

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<v Speaker 5>see him. He's been hurt and on the I injured reserve.

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<v Speaker 2>On the walk off yesterday, he was a first name

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<v Speaker 2>out of the coach's mouth that I really like what

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<v Speaker 2>I was in from Rico.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is, Fellas, you have to play these two guys,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm speaking only the two guys, Rico dald and

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<v Speaker 4>Malik Davis, Right, play them, find out as much as

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<v Speaker 4>you can of who they are. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>guys on my list. Who are these guys? Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>believe that if we leave training camp and we're not

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<v Speaker 4>satisfied with those two guys. As to back up, I

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<v Speaker 4>told Mickey, guys, I was traveling and you you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have time to call me back, and I was traveling

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<v Speaker 4>twenty hours here too, California. I wanted to let Nick, No,

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<v Speaker 4>we have the running backs ric o'donald and Malik Davis.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we have to play them during the preseason. And

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<v Speaker 4>if either one of them get nicked to the point

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<v Speaker 4>where you see they may miss any games, then Zeke

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<v Speaker 4>is your guy. You call Zeke, say, get Zeke here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're here.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's three million dollars and we'll give you this amount

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<v Speaker 4>if you surpriss these numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing, we don't know how much, how

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<v Speaker 2>much willing to play for.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you something.

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<v Speaker 4>In today's NFL market, even Big Henry, if he get released,

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<v Speaker 4>you will find out and he will find out that.

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<v Speaker 3>The market is not there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So right now, the going rate for an older gentleman,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a little season, yeah back, yeah, but who's averaged

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<v Speaker 4>around three hundred carries. So now you gotta you gotta

0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.040
<v Speaker 4>factor all of that in. You have another year, and

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta look at it from the old man point.

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<v Speaker 4>You're building on your pension. You just building on your

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<v Speaker 4>NFL pension. You gotta look at it from a different

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<v Speaker 4>angle and get Zeke back in here.

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<v Speaker 3>If these two guys, because besides the hunter guy full back.

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<v Speaker 3>We set.

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<v Speaker 4>We're set at every position, sept Dolphins line, we are set.

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<v Speaker 4>If these two guys don't give you what you needed

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<v Speaker 4>and you're not one hundred percent sure, get Zeke.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring him in here, and that's roll. We don't need

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<v Speaker 3>a new guy.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't need a new guy because he's got to

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<v Speaker 4>learn our system and learn how he fits and coach

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<v Speaker 4>got to look at him and break him down. We

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<v Speaker 4>know what these three guys are are these four guys

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<v Speaker 4>are depending on we have Zeke and.

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<v Speaker 5>Not And Zeke fits in this locker room right as

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And I think he would come in know

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<v Speaker 5>his place. I think he's smart enough to do that

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<v Speaker 5>and just add that that locker room energy that he adds. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>you need a guy like that, right, You need a

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<v Speaker 5>guy to break up the monotony of football. You need

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<v Speaker 5>a guy like Nate.

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<v Speaker 3>In the locker Kevin go yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But if the thing about this, uh, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I and I tell people, man, it's just I hate

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<v Speaker 4>this feeling of and they spent a lot of years

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<v Speaker 4>for me where I think we got a real chance

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<v Speaker 4>to do something special this year, and I hate that

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<v Speaker 4>feeling because it's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>See, That's why I feel the same way, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm concerned. If something happens to Pollard, then what yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know and not Zeke is the same type running

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<v Speaker 2>back that Pollard is by any means as far as

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<v Speaker 2>his home run threat or anything, but a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>has done it and is reliable back there. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, very nicely done, Mickey.

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<v Speaker 4>And we just put this together off air him and

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<v Speaker 4>the supreme producer Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally Mickey's got some reefs that are that are written

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<v Speaker 2>out for him. And you just did that off the

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>top of your head, that was.

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<v Speaker 4>Out, Oh okay, back in the old old day with

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<v Speaker 4>the do you say you did off the.

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<v Speaker 3>Top of your dome back in the old old days.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they say these days.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we were talking about Zeke and h the

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 2>market out there for him. The other thing that the

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Cowboys are going and are all NFL teams right now

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<v Speaker 2>as you're getting through training camp and you you've kept

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 2>money aside in case of injury. And so that's the

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 2>other thing the Cowboys have to factor into this is

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to the end of camp. I mean, you've

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>got people that are dropping in other camps without any contact.

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, they just take a snap from center and

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow goes down, and uh, so you don't know

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>where the next injury is going to come from. And

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 2>uh They've got a short list of guys at every

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.880
<v Speaker 2>position group in the league that they would call upon

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<v Speaker 2>at that probably at that veteran minimum salary.

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<v Speaker 5>And what everybody needs to understand is there is a

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<v Speaker 5>salary cap, right when we talk about bringing in somebody

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 5>or whatever, And if a guy goes on IR, he

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 5>gets paid. And now you've got to bring in somebody

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 5>else to take his spot, and that guy's got to

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 5>get paid. So sometimes, you know, I know what the

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Cowboys like to do when they go into a season.

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 5>They want to have ten to twelve million dollars of

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 5>cap space to operate through the entire season. You got

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 5>to pay your practice squad, You got to pay guys

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 5>that are on r if they get injured and they're

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 5>done for the season. If they give them an injury settlement,

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 5>you got to pay those guys. So you have operating

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 5>costs that you have to have money in reserve.

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<v Speaker 4>You You all also have to have just in case

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<v Speaker 4>you have a clean year if you need that one guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, so you got like they tried last year

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<v Speaker 5>with ty Hill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we got that one guy, and you got to

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 4>be able to pay him a satisfy factory deal because

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of guys do say I'm gonna sit home

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 4>and if it don't come, it don't come.

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 3>But if it do, you know they'll they'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't and I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Want just any guy coming to this team. I think

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 4>Coach Johnson has made me kind of this way. If

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<v Speaker 4>you don't if I bring you in here, my guys

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 4>don't feel you, and we don't feel you. We got

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 4>to have enough room to get rid of you. You

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying Now it's a cap but you

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 4>can't do that now. But that's how we uhould do

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 4>it back in the day. You know, we want the

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 4>right type of guy because this team is poised to

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>do something special.

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 5>Because guys that have sweat equity, right, they they're they're

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 5>maybe more reliable then bringing in a carpetbagger. Right, he's

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 5>gonna come in for for you know, four games, three games.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 5>He hadn't gone through all the hard work with everybody

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 5>through your list right here. Yeah, yesterday, So yesterday Sam

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 5>Williams goes down, got a shoulder strain. I was told

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 5>they didn't think it was that serious. So, uh, we'll

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 5>see where that one goes. Dorance Armstrong was out with

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 5>a hamstring. He was working on the side, uh, with

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 5>the with the trainers. So those were kind of the

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 5>two new ones. Obviously they've had the previous injuries with

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.959
<v Speaker 5>Donovan Wilson. I saw Israel Mkwamu was out doing a

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 5>little bit yesterday, so maybe his isn't as serious. Uh.

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Lewis and Jordan.

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 5>Lewis still on pop and school work is on non

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 5>football injury.

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<v Speaker 2>So what about Trayvon because.

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<v Speaker 5>He ran on the field, he did individual, Yeah, but

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 5>he did his work with the trainers, uh and after

0:27:55.200 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 5>the individual. So he's got a bruised toe. Somebody said

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 5>he heard it. Try and carry all that twenty one

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 5>million dollars signing bonus.

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<v Speaker 4>To wow, somebody had to take a shot, right, Yeah.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 5>But I don't think he's serious. I know there was

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 5>some conflicting reports. Mike McCarthy said, yeah, he should be out,

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, he'll get back into doing something in practice

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Monday or Tuesday.

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's basically what has happened, right, And so I'm

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>taking that maybe what they're the way they're dealing with Trayvon.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And here's what Mickey's getting at is. On Saturday, McCarthy

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>at his press conference or in the walk off, said

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>that he was asked when Trayvon might get back out there,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and he said early next week. I mean him Monday Tuesday. Well,

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 2>he was out there on Monday doing individual stuff, not

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 2>not thirty minutes later. We're asking Jerry as he came

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 2>off the field after the opening ceremony, saying when do

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you expect Trayvon back and he said probably it might be,

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<v Speaker 2>could be when we get back to Dallas.

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 5>And so that was.

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Span of anywhere between two days and twenty two days.

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Well it turns out, yeah, he is back on the

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>practice field two days later what Mike said after the

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>press conference, But it might not be until we get

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>back to Dallas before he's doing everything unless he has

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>a sense.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and watching him do that stuff, he looks, he looked.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna take it slow with it, right, And the

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 2>same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>The same thing with Terrence Steele and Tony Pollard coming

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<v Speaker 5>back from their surgeries. Mike said they would be limited

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<v Speaker 5>in Monday's padded practice. Well, both of them were out

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 5>there and team they had the pads and out. They

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 5>might have not done as many reps as they normally

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 5>would have, but Pollard looked really good running the ball.

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 5>Steele was doing a nice job at right tackle, and

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 5>then when he wasn't out there, well, let's go was

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 5>getting those reps and that helps him out because he

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 5>They're looking right now for a backup offensive tackle. Now,

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 5>think if it's ends up being a long term deal,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 5>your backup offensive tackle most likely is Tyler Smith and

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 5>then you figure out the guard spot. But right now

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 5>they would like to have a game day guy ready

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 5>to go, and well, let's Go had missed all that

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 5>time last year on injured reserve, and they're giving him

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 5>a good chance, and you need a backup guard and

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 5>they're giving Josh Ball a chance at that so, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, somebody, somebody remarked to me that they were

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 5>watching the second team offensive line. And I don't know

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 5>how closely you got the chance to watch it, but

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 5>they felt like this was the most depth maybe the

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 5>Cowboys have on the offensive line than they had in

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 5>a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they got a rookie Richards. He ran a lot

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 4>when they did the pressure drill to pass the drill.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 4>He ran a lot with the first team and the

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 4>second team.

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 5>And they liked and they liked TJ. Bass too. He's

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 5>been getting a lot of snaps. And Hoffman at center.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 3>At the right guard was right.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, you know Fourniac, I think he's your solid backup center.

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 3>But the thing that's amazing about about.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 4>All of this is I watched coach Mike Clauri work

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 4>these guys and uh, he had their full attention, you know,

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 4>he he he commands respect.

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a different type deal here.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't agree one hundred percent which you make. I

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 3>think the left side is what it.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 4>Is in Tyrone and and Smith that that that playout,

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 4>and even if a guy get injured, Uh, you got

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 4>to pick between Indaga Idaga and and it's well let's go.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 5>Well, let's go.

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 5>But I was meaning like if something happened to Tyrant

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 5>putting Tyler back at no.

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>No think so no, let's let's find us a swing

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 3>tackle between uh In Daga.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Let's know. I'm worried.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 4>We can be worried, but this is where the preseason

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 4>games are truly meant for these guys. You you you

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 4>have to find out who these guys are. I mean,

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 4>and it's good to have the best five out there,

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 4>but you still have to find.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Out who these guys that these guys are.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'm okay, went out When when?

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>When?

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 4>When When the Butcher, the president all world Martin comeback.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna settle this offensive line down.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 4>And then uh still still is gonna be okay, I

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 4>just got you gotta have faith. The only person that

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 4>we worry about is is Tyron and we can kind

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 4>of control what he does out here in practice, but

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.959
<v Speaker 4>when the game started is what it is. But you

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 4>don't I don't like moving two guys to make for one.

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Just move a guy to left tackle that can play

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 4>left tackle. You went out and got these guys. You

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 4>gotta trust in the process.

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 5>Well won't find out. Yeah, in training camp and in

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 5>those preseason games. That's why they're not gonna play Tyron Smith.

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 5>That much in presets, not at all.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I would.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 5>So you're gonna get a chance to see somebody there

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 5>pract see what they can do, see the thing with

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 5>a dog gut. His contract was similar to Ronald Jones.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 5>It was a one year veteran exception. Okay, And that

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 5>tells me if that's all they're paying them, they're not

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 5>convinced that he is the guy to sink their teeth

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 5>into if something happens. But he's got to prove something.

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying, and that's what it is. Right.

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh my deal is this right here.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 4>What hurt us in the long run in the bigger

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 4>games are the games that count the most, the playoff

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 4>games or the division games, because our division is the best,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 4>one of the best in the game. The East is

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 4>one of the best in the game from paper, looking

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 4>at paper, you can't afford to come into third place

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 4>and hope you get in the playoffs. You got to

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 4>be in first or second place in our division to

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 4>make sure you get you get a spot in this thing.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>And our OFFENSEE line has to be solid. Our offensive

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 3>line has to be on point. If you got a

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of moving around in there. You look at the.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Strength of all our teams that we in our division,

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 4>and every one of them has one thing that's consistent

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 4>a defensive line.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 5>All right, you just let me ask one. Okay, you

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 5>mentioned and you had him for a couple of years.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he was we came in together, Yeah, yeah,

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 4>came He came in as a coach, uh, special teams

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 4>and offensive line assistant. And I was a rookie, first

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 4>year guy, brother, and uh, he was a note taking dude.

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 3>And over the.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Years you see every coach that he's touched, he's got

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 4>a lit bit of this stuff in it.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 3>And but he's a hard working guy.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 4>He's a guy that's easy to get along with, but

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 4>he's not gonna take any stuff when it comes time

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:44.959
<v Speaker 4>to work to make the steam better.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 5>And when Zach Martin in the off season was asked

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 5>about what his impression was of Solari, uh, he said

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 5>he brings a lot of energy into the room, and

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 5>I think that's a good quality for the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we come back mix shots brought to you

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<v Speaker 2>by Miller Lite, I'm gonna ask Nate about Zach Martin.

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<v Speaker 3>So you said that was Captain Martin.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Captain Martin? Yeah, speaking of captain, speaking of the

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<v Speaker 5>Captain the president.

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<v Speaker 2>With Jerry how much?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait what ay tell you about him?

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Same thing he told everybody else about his contract. I

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 2>think I asked him, how does this thing get resolved?

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:10.479
<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And of course he didn't answer that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think he said, well, it doesn't need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's what he said. It doesn't need to

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>be resolved. He just needs to come back to But

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 2>his point is they've got Parsons to pay. They've got

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>well they just paid Digs to pay.

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:31.439
<v Speaker 3>They still next year.

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Terry Steele and Dak and whoever, Yeah, got up here.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was his point. He wasn't saying they can't

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 5>give Martin any money because of solely Michael Parsons. If

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 5>we met everybody down the line, they got all these

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 5>guys that they got to take there.

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<v Speaker 2>We redid, if we redid all our long term contracts

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 2>because of the market ships, we wouldn't have a team.

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 5>Basically, it'd be like Nate walking into Jimmy and said,

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 5>I need more money.

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<v Speaker 3>I did do that and and he says, Son, You're

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<v Speaker 3>lucky to have a job. The door where you leave out.

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 5>All right, so make sure no one else comes in. Yes, right.

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>For Zach Martin, how many how how late can it

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>go for him to be ready to play in the

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<v Speaker 2>season opener?

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<v Speaker 4>All the way uh, all the way up into the

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<v Speaker 4>week of the game, because he needs to prepare to

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 4>play the game the butcher is going to do. They

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 4>call him the butcher. I call him the president. But

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Zach Martin is He's a beast. He's gonna have some

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.720
<v Speaker 4>rusts because and I'm more worried about the rust between

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 4>him the center, uh the oddish and Terrence Steele or

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 4>whoever may be playing that right tackle, because he is

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 4>the glue to this whole offensive line. He I mean

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 4>all the way out to your left tackle. He is

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.919
<v Speaker 4>the glue. He is the guy when things go wrong,

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 4>his calmness settles everything down.

0:39:58.360 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Hey know.

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the things they talk about it in

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 5>the off season was with this McCarthy taking over the offense,

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 5>they were changing up some of the protections. Yes, and

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 5>remember he didn't get a chance to work in the

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 5>OTAs or the mini camp because supposedly he was rehabbing

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 5>a soft tissue injury. Well, this might have been the

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 5>start of him balking at his contract. So if he

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 5>doesn't get all this work, I think it's not his ability.

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>But it's language.

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 5>You may hurt him and coordinating with the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys and then he right make the language coming from Dak.

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 4>You can get the language from Coach Salari because they're

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 4>probably talking and keeping him abreast. The language coming from

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 4>Dak may may be a little bit different. How quick

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 4>he get a play and how you know to rush

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 4>the time on the clock, and you know how you

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 4>can say hey, da da da da and you know

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 4>what he means, you know, but you can't dae da

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 4>da da.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 3>But a guy who been out of camp, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for both of you who cut your eye yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>Immediately the hookup between Dak and CD doesn't look like

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 5>they've missed the step. But what I really liked seeing

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 5>was the energy and the ability to get open with

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 5>Cavante Turpin as a wide receiver. We know he's kind

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 5>of the return guy right now. They said they were

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 5>gonna get him into this offense. Well, when he's got opportunities,

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.959
<v Speaker 5>especially in these padded practice he made two or three

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 5>really nice catches and he was getting open. So that

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 5>caught me eye immediately. That and the ability to hit

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 5>deep balls, not just Dak, but Cooper Rush to connecting

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 5>Michael Gallup who beat Stefan Gilmour down the field, and

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 5>then Dak. I don't know that he can overthrow Brandon

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 5>Cooks on a deep ball.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 4>The whole practice itself, I I I I I just

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 4>from coach Tuh translating from ten padded practices to the

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 4>field and enthusiasm that guys had just to be out

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 4>on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>I like how they opened it.

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 4>I wish they would open up with the combo runs

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 4>at the beginning of practice once they straight I wanted

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 4>to straight to combo runs because we had to wait

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 4>too long to watch Mazzie Smith and all of these

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 4>guys play and get and get into some physical stuff

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 4>and that that was very impressive. The first play took

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 4>off to the left side and it broke. I mean,

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 4>now Tyron didn't get a great block, but he held

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 4>it enough where the running back just shot through the

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 4>apolot shot through there for a touchdown.

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 4>But I did see a young fifty eight Massie do

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 4>what he's supposed to do one time when he jammed

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 4>up the guard Smith and U and Tyrone couldn't get

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 4>off and it just spent fourteen just run free, make

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 4>a big play for a big hit, and.

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Uh that stuff like that.

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 4>Is you looking at this kid because he is eating

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 4>up bodies And I saw him do that a couple

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 4>of times, So that really jumped at him and Mazie

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 4>ed up enough blocks so them linebackers can run through Love.

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you got to do a lot to move him.

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 2>You can just look at him. I mean you could

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.240
<v Speaker 2>tell how strong he without him even moving a muscle.

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:25.439
<v Speaker 3>And he ain't. He ain't.

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh, he ain't sloppy, fat man, He ain't. He ain't

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 4>fat out. But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 4>looked at him, man, man, man, it kind of made me.

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 4>It's you know a lot of times when I look

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 4>at players and I'm not saying what this kid is

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 4>gonna be during the season, but if you look at

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 4>if I look at a player and I'm sixty one.

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 6>Now.

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 4>If I look at a player and he kind of

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 4>makee the hackles grow up on the back of the neck.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think he may got a little something

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 4>in him that make me want to get at him.

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Did you have somebody Well, I was just gonna say

0:43:56.200 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>this about Mazzi, if you have somebody that he's got

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 2>the person he's got, He's got some Mica in his personality.

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 2>He's got a confidence about him and.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that going to become a Michigan guys.

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, genuineeness about him or I mean when you talk

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 2>to him, he's real when he's when he talks to you,

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, and.

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 4>He's so you're saying that the other sixty guys are

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 4>not really just only him and Parsons.

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 5>Wow, what do you And by the way, Parsons, he

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 5>didn't take no prisoners yesterday either, yea his pass rush.

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 5>They were having trouble blocking man, and I'm sitting there going, oh,

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't know about these tackles, and I'm thinking, no,

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 5>it's Michael Parsons.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 4>I had to check myself the same way, right, I Mean,

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 4>I saw him flinch a calf muscle in the whole

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 4>right side, jump outside.

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 3>He just flinched a calf muscle and the whole right side.

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 5>And here's another thing.

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 3>I noticed what they're doing.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Uh, keep an eye on what they're doing with Leyton Vandersch,

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 5>especially in some nickel situations when they feel confident on

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 5>a linebacker taking over that middle. If they're only in

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 5>one linebacker, they've lined him up as a defensive end

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 5>and he's rushing. He's not blitzing, he's rushing. And I

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 5>asked him about it, and he didn't want to talk

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.399
<v Speaker 5>about it, and then he turned around and smiled. He goes,

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 5>just watch you see it just like.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 2>That, right, And that also it tells you what how

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 2>they feel about the other linebackers like Clark.

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 5>Right, you know that Clark can handle it in the middle,

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 5>or they're kind of starting to use Cocks a little

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:35.919
<v Speaker 5>bit more in there.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 3>He can run.

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 5>And he is so athletic, he can flat well if

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 5>they keep him healthy and you can use you know,

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they've got linebackers that are versatile can do

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 5>other things.

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:52.919
<v Speaker 3>I saw him hit a hole. He hit it too soon.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes, he's still fell back, I'm telling you. And on

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 4>they laugh at me because I'm always missed optimistic.

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:05.720
<v Speaker 3>But I'm telling you, fellas.

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 4>If we fix this offensive line and we have minor

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 4>injuries our defense man, it is, it is ready out

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 4>from the I see no weak points. People keep talking

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 4>about the linebacker line. No, there's no weak points because

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 4>coach I talked to Coach Quinn yesterday. He has a

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 4>plan for everybody. All you need is for the players

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 4>to stay motivated and play within the scheme that is

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:31.919
<v Speaker 4>designed for him.

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 5>Well. And just remember if if they have a problem linebacker,

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 5>Michael Parsons can still play linebacker, right, you can still

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 5>use him there. He's got to be on the line

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 5>of scrimm.

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Now, he's got to be on the line of scrimmas

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 4>for everything to work. It's like Lawrence Taylor. They would

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 4>move I remember playing against the Giants. They would move

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 4>Lawrence everywhere on the line because it made everybody else

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 4>play free.

0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 3>But if you lock him into.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 4>A certain spot, and I don't want him to ever

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 4>linebacker because.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 5>If he has got a line, but he gotta move

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 5>them around some more.

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 3>But he gotta fight through something.

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, he could get double team on the line.

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't want him thinking see the first few years.

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.959
<v Speaker 4>I didn't mind him thinking, now, see ball, get ball,

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 4>have no responsibility. You have no responsibility. The other the

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 4>other ten guys, you have responsibility.

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 3>You know what.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.959
<v Speaker 2>We have a responsibility. Our responsibility is to be done

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<v Speaker 2>with the show right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Did Chris give you the high side? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I just looked at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Roofing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no longer Miller life time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you've been saying that middle of light at all times.

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<v Speaker 5>You all right, we'll be back on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on Thursday. Thursday, it is, and the

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<v Speaker 2>break is coming up shortly.

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