1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome Home. This is our mini pod. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: This week we are talking about black face and white face. 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: This is an age old discussion. We've been having this 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: conversation in our community for many, many years. For some reason, 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: white folks really want to be able to say the 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: N word, especially when they rap in, and they. 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: Want to end up in black face. 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: So Jake Paul, just like all of us, were completely 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: enamored with Drew Ski's skit about white conservative women and 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: how they be like and Jake Paul wanted to answer it. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Let's roll the clip of Jake Paul. 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: I want to ask you something because I've been over 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: the last couple of days calling makeup artists and I 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 4: was going to do a response to this and like, 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: go and do like the fool on darker, Yeah, and 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: do it and just do it back because why not? Yeah, Like, 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 4: are we on the same Blaine field? 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 5: Like I think if you if there's a way to 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 5: do it, oh singing in well this even this sentence, 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 5: but if there's a way to do it, I've been 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 5: here many times, if there's a way to do it, 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think there needs to be some 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: black support for the character. I think like I'm saying, 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 5: like say, if uh, Drew Ski, or I'm trying to 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 5: think of somebody else, Charles Barkley, Charles Barkley, if you 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 5: got one of those guys to be like, hey, if 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 5: you don't want you to do this skit with me, 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 5: let's do this. 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: But but still, that's that's pussing out you think it is? Yeah, 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: to me, there's a level of like that, doesn't that make. 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 6: Us more. 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: Like prejudice? Like more prejudice again makes us if we 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: have to partner with someone. Drew Ski just dropped this 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: and he's done it a couple of times, exactly. I 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: love it. This is great. This is how humans should be. 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: I agree, we should fucking make fun of each other. 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: And I don't see in color. I see in truth 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: and comedy. So like, what are we talking about? So 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: you're saying what era are we living? 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: So can I can? 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 6: I just can tim real quick? 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: I watch you, I watch you to time here real quick. 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: And then I want to roll what they are responding to, 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: which is Drewski's original skit I want to hear that. 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 6: Well, part of the part of the reason that what 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 6: THEO vonn and one of the Pauls and I have 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 6: a whole reason with understanding why Logan and Jake and 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 6: I don't know which one that is are actually famous, 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 6: right because they don't do anything really well. 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: I've heard of him. 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 6: So one of them is a professional wrestler in w 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 6: w E and the other one is a boxer, but 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 6: he's not a real professional. He just was like a 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: reality show guy that started being a mullet one. No, 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 6: that's the THEO von is the one to the left 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 6: with the mullet. Okay, Jake or Logan, whichever one that 60 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 6: is is the bigger one. Okay, but let me just 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 6: explain to you what racism is really quick. Drewski is 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 6: a comedian who does skits. Right, Paul would be a 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 6: random white guy dressing up in blackface. Do you understand 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 6: the difference between the two. Like one is actually in 65 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 6: his lane doing the work that his lane does, which 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 6: is make people laugh in every way shape form that 67 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 6: he can. Logan Paul just wants to That's Jake, Paul. Jake. 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 6: Paul just wants to dabble like I said, I don't 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 6: know diff between. Yeah, he wants to dabble in stereotypes 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 6: and just not necessarily do comedy. He wants to do racism. 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 6: So my whole point is that Drewski's doing comedy, the 72 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 6: Paul guy is doing racism. So I'm sorry. 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: I kept trying to listen no, because where I was, 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: I was kept listening for like, what does he want 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: to do this? Like what is he he do? You 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: just want to put on black face? I mean there's no, 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: He's just like, well, they did it and for us 78 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: to go full sell, then we got to do it 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: and we can't put it out. We got to do 80 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: it by ourselves. It's got to be just white people. 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, have you not seen centuries of that? 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: And even when it was done for centuries, it was 83 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: also done And anyway. 84 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: I think, and and the one thing I and we're 85 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: going to take issue with you Bakari before we played 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Drew Ski's what he did, and then the women who 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: he's making fun of, and he's on point with by 88 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: the way, the comedy the comedic exception. I also don't 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I won't allow because I remember when Ted ted Danson 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: did this. He was dating Woopy Goldberg. Woop be Goldberg 91 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: was defending it. And I don't think it's ever funny 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: for white people to be in black face because of 93 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: the historical reasons that it's problematic and I actually endangered us. 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: Whereas white people who are in positions of power privilege, 95 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: if we are mocking them. 96 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle mocked. 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: Them in white face, if that's what you want to 98 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: call it, white chicks, which I respectfully I love the ways, 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: but that's the worship job of it. 100 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: Did you know they did it? Are there are other 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: moments where this has happened. 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: But it's not to make fun of the. 103 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: Human being you are. 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: It is to make fun of some of the characteristics 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: that you embody. And to that point, yes, and to 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: that point, let us go ahead and roll the juic 107 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: ski mashup that nick so wonderfully put together. 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: I serve a righteous God. We did what we usually 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: did before towards we said our prayer, and that is 110 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: why we say our prayers, and we asked the Lord 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: that his will be done. 112 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 2: We have to protect all men in America, especially all 113 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: white men in America. 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: Don't let anyone disenfranchise you because you're. 115 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: A young man, especially a young white male man. 116 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: Don't ever let anyone talk down to you. I'm trying 117 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: to find a lie. 118 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: But that's what, right, that's exactly well. He didn't even 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: have to exaggerate much. He just basically repeated the lines. 120 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: Maybe that's but that's what. 121 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 6: That's what comedy is, right, comedy. He's done it to 122 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 6: Black Pastorge. Comedy is taking a mirror to the lives 123 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 6: we live and allowing us, through all of our trials 124 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 6: and tribulations, in trepidations, to at least be able to 125 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 6: find the humor in some of our you know, faults, 126 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 6: some of our pimples, some of our warts. Right now, 127 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 6: what what the Paul boy is doing is saying, no, 128 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 6: I want to I want to just land bass white people, 129 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 6: I mean black people real quick, because I feel like 130 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 6: I have that privilege and that ability. I don't even think, 131 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 6: you know, racism is so prevalent now, I don't even 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 6: know why. He was really asking Theovion for permission, like, 133 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 6: just go out Dan and be racist, do the black 134 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 6: face thing that you want to do. Go to go 135 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 6: to Detroit. Why don't you go to Detroit and post 136 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 6: up downtown in black face and let's see how that. 137 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 6: Let's see how that work out well. 138 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing that is important here is, 139 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, Jake Paul's rise to fame is you know, 140 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: plotting these different boxing matches. With all due respect to 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Nate Robinson, who's a hometown legend and basketball superstar, he 142 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: got his ass not completely out on stage by Jake Paul, 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: and I just got to say, you know, this is 144 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: something where I'm like, not only are you not in 145 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: your lane, you're showing how you have benefited from black culture. 146 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: I know he's got a ton of black followers, and 147 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: now you've made the mistaken assumption that now you are 148 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: one of us, that you can do what we do. 149 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't separate this desire to do 150 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: blackface from the desire to say the N word. 151 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 6: So somebody explained that to me, Why do they want 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 6: to say it's so bad? Why do people want it? 153 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 6: Why do want to say we. 154 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: Need a white guess for that? Because I don't. 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: Know, why do they want to be so bad? The 156 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: same question, by the way, you know what I what 157 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: I interpreted from this man's interest in wanting to do 158 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: this is to make the point that if you can 159 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: do it, so can we. Like, there was no higher 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 2: message than that. It's like, if it's okay for them 161 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: to like Drew Ski just did, then what's the problem 162 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: if I just want to do it with no I mean, 163 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: no fidelity to history, no understanding or grounding and where 164 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: blackface came from. And it wasn't just satirizing, it was 165 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: also the exaggerated exaggeration of our features, our looks our again, 166 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: not comedy, but insults so far as that they were 167 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: attempting to levy. And moreover, they took work from us. 168 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: They put you know, you had characters on plays, on 169 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: stages in performance halls that were painted black because they 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: refused to bring black people into the establishments. And then 171 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: they again in those same places, used our skills and 172 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: talents exaggerated them for their own pleasure. So I just 173 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: think that the guys should just read a little bit 174 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: of history or something. And typically the way societies work 175 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: is that the majority acts to protect the minority. You 176 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: don't use your majorities to pummel those who don't have 177 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: your same numbers and representation. That's why I took issue 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: with governors deciding to create legislation to go after three 179 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: four people in their state. You don't do that when 180 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: you're in the majority position. And for the time being, sir, 181 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: you all still happen to be in the majority, and 182 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: not just by a number, but by representation and power. 183 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 6: What I don't want is for the difference between what 184 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 6: Jake was talking what we're talking about with Jake Paul, 185 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 6: and what what Andrew was talking about. Is I believe 186 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 6: what Andrew was talking about in terms of government structure 187 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 6: deserves a proper outrage. I would prefer people just to 188 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 6: ignore Jake Paul m treat it with the level of 189 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 6: respect that I think it deserves. 190 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you gonna use your other great quote, 191 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: which was the more skilled you are, the more you get, 192 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: the more runway you get, the more talent, the more talent, 193 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: the more run So, brother, your time's up. 194 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: So on this, Jake Paul says in this podcast with 195 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: the ovonn he says, I'm obviously Republican, and all the 196 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: Republicans being mad about this is like an l for 197 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Republicans because this is hilarious and even though it's dark 198 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: and twisted, this is what comedy is. 199 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: So he at least acknowledges where they're you know, is. 200 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: A flat side for the Republican Party because you know, 201 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: they were up in arms saying, you know, well, what 202 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: about that? You guys were mad about this Obama ape comparison, 203 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: But how are you not outraged by this? 204 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: There were black Republicans who were doing that. 205 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: And I think that the other thing that's that's really 206 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: fascinating here is he talks about in that clip that we. 207 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: Played that he doesn't see color, but he. 208 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: Wants to be black. 209 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: Face, but wants to be put in black face. So 210 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty dog gone fascinating. And the 211 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: other thing that he says, and I would love to 212 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: hear y'all weigh on on this part. He says like, 213 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: are we on the same playing field? 214 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: He wants to know. 215 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: Why he can't wear blackface? If quote, are we even 216 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: on the same playing field? What is you all educated 217 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: answer to Jake Paul on whether or not Jake Paul, 218 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: this white man is on the same. 219 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 3: Playing field as Drewski or any other black mirror. 220 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: DoD you know a black person who wears black face? 221 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: Yes, we can't take it off. 222 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: No, but but even us we're different. 223 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we can't. But I know, like wait a 224 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 6: minute now, like Bamboozle Man, Tannah, Sleep and Eat a 225 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 6: legendary black face characters, but. 226 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. 227 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: And then to serve a certain perfect purpose to. 228 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: Certain I would just do, but we don't. We don't 229 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: go around painting our face with shoe leather polish as 230 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: a general rule. So part of them, even in drisky skin, 231 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: he could have been the women he was imitating. 232 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: He didn't. 233 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it may have been exaggerated only because he's 234 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: a heavier man or whatever, so he can't be the 235 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: same size as what's his names, you know, widowed wife. 236 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: But he didn't go in there doing anything other than 237 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: reflecting what these women had done in real life. So 238 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: I just I'm confused by them. I think my point 239 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: at the beginning is still the same, which is is 240 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: there's no point that they are trying to make other 241 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: than if they if it's if they can do it, 242 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: so can I. Yeah, And unfortunately I don't get to 243 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: make that same judgment in society. I just want to 244 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: make a walk down the street with a lemonade in 245 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: his hand and confront whoever he wants to and have his. 246 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 6: Way I just want to make I want to make 247 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 6: a new native. Let's not talk about uh, let's not 248 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 6: talk about Jake Paul anymore. 249 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: It's not really about him. It really. 250 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to play the Drewski skit and we never 251 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: got to it. And I thought, what was interesting here 252 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: is this return not just of Jake Paul, but of 253 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: white people desiring to put on black face and of 254 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: white people desiring to say the N word. What can 255 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: I say it if I'm rapping. 256 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: The actor who said that because he just well you 257 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: used it. I mean, he said negro, but you all 258 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: see it all the time. Why can't we say he said, 259 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: go ahead and say it? 260 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, that with. 261 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 6: Delroy Linda Say. He did say, Well, I want to 262 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 6: do with the news, he said, just say it? 263 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: Was that a real Was that a real news clipper? 264 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: Was that an from a show? 265 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: International shows? 266 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 6: You know? 267 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: This also happened on like a comedic. I don't know 268 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: what show that was, but I know that Chris Rock 269 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: was on there, Jerry Seinfeld and this other white man 270 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: and he says the N word and Chris Rock laughs, 271 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: And in that moment I wanted to pop him like 272 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Will Smith did. 273 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: Again, we have a lot of us who are performative 274 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: still and a lot of spaces, A lot of us 275 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: are still performing in a lot of lists. But my 276 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: only like forget all the They they they want to 277 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: reset the clock when they want to reset the clock. 278 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: They want to reset the conditions, when they want to 279 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: reset the conditions. Why didn't you want to reset the 280 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: conditions to create the same easy entry to the same colleges, 281 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: to the same schools, to the same jobs, with the 282 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: same pay, with the same expectations and skills and performances. No, no, 283 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: no, no no, you didn't want to reset the table. Then 284 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: you didn't want all things being equal. Then it's only 285 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: when you want to do when you want to defame us, 286 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: demure us, remind us of our lesser place in society, 287 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: then all things need to be equal so that you 288 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: could play that role. 289 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: You know what, Andrew, this reminds me just to get 290 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: us back into one of the topics from the main show, 291 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: and you're slightly off center. I guess so, am I 292 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we don't make it 293 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: so hard for Jordan to cut later and Bacari's blurry, 294 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: but I know they can figure that out. 295 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: But you know. 296 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: The thing that I just thought about is when I 297 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: posted the thing from my solo pod on Tuesday about 298 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: Tucker Cross, and I'm like, this is your guy reminding 299 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: them that they've been on the wrong sides of the issue. 300 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: One thing that keeps coming up and I don't know 301 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: if y'all have seen this, but they keeps coming up. 302 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: It's like, well, don't you want them on our side now? 303 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: And my thing is they're not really on our side. 304 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: They're on our side about one particular issue. But let's 305 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: ask them about DEI, Let's ask them about affirmative action. 306 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Let's ask them about access to housing. Let's ask them 307 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: if our paycheck should be the same. Let's ask them 308 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: if they support the freaking save acts. Right, So, all 309 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you will see MAGA colors still shining 310 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: through on all of these other issues that matter. It's 311 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: great that we can align on an issue or two, 312 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: but they still are problematic across the board on a 313 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: lot of other things. And on this issue we see 314 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Jake Paul being problematic, but this ain't the only place 315 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: where he's problematic. 316 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: Sure, right, And as my response to that is, we 317 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: can ask those questions that I'm going to ask it 318 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: after the election, so long as I believe that the 319 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: issue that we share in common is the issue that 320 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: is powering your vote, because too often we may have 321 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: an issue in common, but it's not the one that 322 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: is decisive to how you're going to choose. So I 323 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: need you to We're gonna ride so long as our 324 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: common shared cause, very in which we are in common cause, 325 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: we also make the right common decision in the elections. 326 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: But I get the fact that their alliance is temporary. 327 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: It's not even temporary. It's not formalized. 328 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: It's transational, transactional. 329 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm just saying I don't want to make 330 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: the bar too high for I see you for who 331 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: you are. It just so happens on this occasion we 332 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: are in common cause, and so long as that common 333 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: cause drives your vote, I'm riding. But let's be clear, 334 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: I haven't forgotten who you are. 335 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 6: I also just hate this because I'm going back to 336 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 6: this comment because mediocrity is like one of the banes 337 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 6: of my existence. Like I just I despise it in 338 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 6: every form. And Drew Ski is very skilled at what 339 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 6: he does. And here we are comparing this white boy 340 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 6: who wants to do a skit to somebody who has 341 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 6: worked diligently since buying videos to grow a platform, to 342 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 6: be able to hit the marks, to be able to 343 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 6: do the makeup the right way and hit the language 344 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: the right way, and do the church get the right 345 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 6: way and outrage people and respond to him the right way. 346 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 6: And now somebody wants to jump in his lane, and 347 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 6: everybody's like, oh, he's just like Drew Ski. No the 348 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 6: fuck he's not the Yes. 349 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: How is how awesome is it to move throughout the 350 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: world assuming that whatever it is that you see done 351 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: regardless of whatever barriers existed for the person who's doing it, Like, oh, 352 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: I just I woke up today, and therefore I should Right, 353 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: it's the same thing, like, oh, because they can do it, 354 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: then so should I. Shouldn't we also just be able 355 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: to do it? Were you ignoring a whole bunch of things? 356 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: All right, a whole bunch of stuff that goes into 357 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: this thing? But you woke up today? Okay? I get 358 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: it myself. 359 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: I ain't got no necessary I don't either. I feel 360 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: like we beat this dead horse. 361 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: The horse is dead. It's on the horses dorses. 362 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: But if you guys see these people in my comments 363 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: saying like you should be. 364 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: Glad that they came along. 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