1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. Hearty 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Hoe and Welcome back to another offseason edition of Fantasy 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Football Weekly with your host, nurse John mcaza and medical 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: specialist MD fantasy doctor Jake Tropo. What we're talking about today, 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: We've talking some injuries. 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: Jake, how are you? Hopefully you're well? 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm great. I don't know when I got 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 3: this medical degree that we're touting. It must have been 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: while I was sleeping, perhaps, but I'm happy to try 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: to fake my way through it for this No, John, John, 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: I feel like more I'm a little bit more like 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: weather specialists. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: Man. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: We've been getting pummeled by storms here in Wisconsin for 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: like two months straight. I'm tired of it. I don't 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: know if I'm more tired of that though, or tired 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: of the storm of bad injury news that we've been 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: getting on NFL players, you know what I mean. 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: I love the segue though. It's funny. 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be able to get 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: away from weather talk. You know, I do baseball work, 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: and this weather really affects games being played and how 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: the ball moves and everything, and I'm like crash coursing meteorology. Anyway, 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: our medical degrees come from the medical school of Upstair Hollywood, right, 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: the Upstairs Hollywood degree from doctor Dick Riviera High everybody, 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: all right, So that's. 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: Been most of the news. Of course, football season means. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Like hidden injuries, Drake, and they're coming in fast and furious. 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: I've always joked the best way to find the injuries 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: that we don't know about that we will know about 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: are on my roster ship page, and of course that's 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: been the case. Of course I've drafted guys we didn't 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: know we're hurt. First up would be mister Ali Pearce 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver. 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 2: For the Colts. 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: We talked about him, and right they move away from Pittman, 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: they gave Alec Pierce the bag, and I assumed, even 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: with questionable quarterback return from Daniel Jones, Pierce would be 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: the focal point of the passing offense well. Coach Shane Steichen, 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: when asked about Pierce's offseason surgery, he opened up the 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: possibility from not to be ready for the start of camp, 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: said it could be a quote unquote a couple weeks 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: in Pierce, this is just today said there was no 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: definitive timetable and when to be back. He was given 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: a four to six month recovery time after the March surgery. 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: March is the third month, six months is nine? 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: Uh oh? 49 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: Like I said, we could be talking about a couple 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: of weeks plus ramp up time, possibility of a setback. 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't like to invite injuries. The Alex Pierce sharfs 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: that I have are probably it. Let's look at the 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: other wide receivers really quick. Josh Down's ADP. Ninety five, 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook a Keene adp. Two sixteen. Are there any values? 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Are you off the colts? Do you like the incoming 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Pierce discount? 57 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Right? I think that's also on the way. What do 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: you think, Jack? 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there will be a discount with Pierce, 60 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: although I just can't imagine even taking advantage of that 61 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: because the discount is not going to get him to 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: where I think his proper value is. I think he 63 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: was so overinflated based on the contract and I just 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: thought he should have come down anyways. This is going 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: to get him further down, but not far enough for me. 66 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: I do think the price tag for Josh Downs obviously 67 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: goes up a ton, So it's gonna be interesting to 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: see how far I'm in it right now based on 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: where he is, because I think he was undervalued. But 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm actually more curious to see what happens with Tyler 71 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: Warren out of anybody on this team. Westbrook A. Kine 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: is interesting because he does play a similar downfield, explosive 73 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 3: play type of guy, although a very low grade version 74 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: of it compared to Alec Pearce. But I thought Michael 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: Pittman's departure would actually help Warren more than anybody else 76 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: on this team, and I think he's maybe being a 77 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: bit overlooked in all of this, even though he's being 78 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: drafted very high. I could see an argument for him 79 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: like tight end four kind of seemed too high at 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: one point. Now I feel like maybe it's not even 81 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: high enough. 82 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: John Yeah, Warren I thought would thrive anyway. Any opening 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: is going to be a for him. I think he 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: really mentioned the key piece for me is Josh Downs. 85 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: Gosh. 86 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: I wish I knew if he was gonna play in 87 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: two wide receiver sets, and the thing that kills me 88 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: with some of these guys, maybe like a Jayden Reid also, Man, 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: why can't we get these guys into two wide out sets, 90 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: especially when there's an opening right that. I don't want 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: that to be a concern. I'm telling myself the story 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: that Downs is gonna be an every down player. Oh 93 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: see what he did there, at least to start the season. 94 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of staying away from a keen a, although 95 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: I think in reed draft, especially in kind of deeper formats, 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: there's probably been an opening for him. You mentioned the 97 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: archetypical fit there kind of downfield, and that's gonna be 98 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: open for Pierce. Even if Josh Downs is playing every down, Jake, 99 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: I doubt he's running go routes, right, That's not really 100 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: his thing. I don't think we want him doing that. 101 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I kind of stepped on the rake with Pierce, 102 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: and it wasn't really overpaying, but if I was heavy 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: running back up front, I did think he'd fit a role. 104 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna get off that. The next bit of 105 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: news was another guy who's drafting and I have the 106 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: receipts because we spoke about it. Was Chris Rodriguez over 107 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Remember he spent five seasons at Kentucky and 108 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: his best season was with Leen Cohen, who was the 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator at the time. Right, so there was I 110 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a shower narrative, but something like that. Now, 111 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: according to team sources, the Jaguars Chris Rodriguez had a 112 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: procedure on his left foot ready in an injury early in 113 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: the off season program. He's expected to be ready for 114 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: the start of training camp in late July. I mean, 115 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: so the obvious question is where do you stand on 116 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: the Rodriguez and are you pushing up Basil. 117 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 2: Touton, who I felt was already. 118 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: Kind of expensive at thirty three maybe now right, if 119 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: you weren't worried about Rodriguez, that's where he should be 120 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: if he's moving up any more. Jake, I'm not going 121 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: any further that thirty three feels rich, maybe even fair, 122 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: but especially if Rodriguez returns and I still think he 123 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: could get the ends of work, that's a little bit 124 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: too expensive for me. Loo quent Out at EIGHTYB two sixteen, 125 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: what do you make of the Jaguars backfield situation. 126 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up Bachel Tuton because is somebody 127 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: that I have been high on this offseason, even with 128 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: the addition of Chris Rodriguez, But it does feel like, boy, 129 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: he really took a balloon ride up in ADP, And yeah, 130 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: you make a good point. If he starts getting into 131 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: the I don't know beginning of the fifth round. Am 132 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: I comfortable doing that For Bachel Tuton, a guy that 133 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: I liked coming out of college but didn't exactly thrive 134 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: last year, I'd be scared of that. So yeah, I 135 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: don't think I'm gonna follow him up in ADP much. 136 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: With Chris Rodriguez, though, I always hate these ambiguous, undisclosed 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: injury types of things. I just have flashbacks to Joe 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: Mixon and his mysterious foot injury from last year, and 139 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: it was supposedly no big deal until it was, and 140 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: then it kept him out all season and it might 141 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: have ended his career. I'm not saying that's the exact 142 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: case with Rodriguez, mind you, but I am staying away 143 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: because I don't think he's worth the headaches. Like I 144 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: think he's a fairly low ceiling play, so I'm not 145 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: gonna go through all that unless the guy just has 146 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: massive upside, and I don't really see that with Rodriguez. 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh, let me do a quick correction. I was quoting 149 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: a minpick. The ADP is not far off as in 150 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: forty three. It wasn't thirty three, it's forty three. But 151 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: I've seen him go there now because people are immediately 152 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: overreacting to something, I think that initial price was already 153 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: discluding Rodriguez from. 154 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: The party here. 155 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you make a great point being 156 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: weary of injuries, I very much am. I'm trying not 157 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: to invite them. I'm certainly not paying premiums for them. 158 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: It just was funny as I was getting into Twoton. 159 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: If I saw him in the fourth or even sometimes 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: early five, if I was early wide receivers, I'm thinking, Okay, 161 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: this is a guy who could explode a really good offense. 162 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: But now, yeah, I don't know. We know he's gonna 163 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: move up. 164 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I have to decide if if I want any piece 165 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: of Rodriguez, is there anywhere that he could go chake again? 166 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: This is an offense we're expecting a lot from. But 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: there is Luquina Allen. I know I mentioned him twice. 168 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't know who else is talking about him in June, 169 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: but he can be annoying. Sometimes it's that it's that 170 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: third thorn in the side, right or I guess the 171 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: second form. But either way, that extra, that third mouth 172 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: to feed can kind of kill everybody. Those are the 173 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: running back committees that I'm looking to. 174 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: Get off of. 175 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I think my rostershipt for the Jaguars is gonna decline. 176 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: You pretty much signing off on that. 177 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, John, it's like the band Poison said a long 178 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: time ago, every rose has three thorns. We know this. 179 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: They knew it to be true, We know it to 180 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: be true. I do think in the case of backfields 181 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: like this, where there is still a lot of ambiguity, 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: that's actually crazy. I didn't realize I misheard about Baseil Tuton. 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: I can't believe he's even going up higher than I thought. 184 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: So I'm all the way out on tooton now, which 185 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: is too bad. Lo quent to Ellen, Yeah, why not, right, 186 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: because there's so few running backs that have a legitimate 187 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: shot at this much of the pie going that late. 188 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of guys you could maybe 189 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: make an argument for around his area. But I'll take 190 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: some shots. Why not let me load up on wide 191 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: receivers towards the middle rounds and I'll scrape together some 192 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: more running backs than the late part. 193 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guy like George Laani kind of comes to mind. 194 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Also that look into Allen. Okay, we're talking very much endgame, 195 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: but if you're doing the best ball thing or the 196 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: roto thing right now, those guys are bodies, and they're 197 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: already kind of projectable. 198 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: Right. 199 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: It's not a lot of projectible volume, but it's some 200 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: projectible volume. And I think everyone is so eager to 201 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: draft these sixth and seventh round running backs that very 202 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: often are zeros and like a like a hard zero, 203 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: like they didn't see the field. They don't actually make 204 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: the team sometimes, where a guy like lucn Awen is 205 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: already shown that he can earn work in that offense. 206 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, say the Rodriguez thing really 207 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: goes poorly. You mentioned mixing, so it's not out of 208 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: the realm where it was an ankle injury to worry. 209 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: He's fine, it'll be back week one, don't worry, be 210 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: back out. Thea's all week three, Week five, week seven, 211 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: he may never play again. More like what's going on here? 212 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy? 213 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: How right? Oh? 214 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: That escalated quickly, but de things happen. That's why I 215 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: tryed to invite any injuries if they're going on right now. 216 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: If Rodriguez does continue to drop, then I and he 217 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: comes back and please, then yeah, I might scoop him 218 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: at the end game. 219 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: All right, Jake goes to. 220 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: A little lightning round doctor play I was gonna play 221 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: doctor or whatever. I already made that joke, so again. 222 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: The one thing I don't want to do is pretend 223 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: to be a Yeah, I don't want to pretend him whoo. 224 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to come off like I 225 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: understand much, if anything, about medicine. But I have been 226 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: playing fantasy for a long time. We have a list 227 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: of players that would could and should have fantasy impact, 228 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: but they had season ending injuries. So each one is 229 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: going to be different than the other one. I have 230 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: found I feel comfortable ignoring, not say ignoring, but I 231 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: don't want any part of the late season injuries, right 232 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: if they happened late the recovery time. I worry about setbacks. 233 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: We've already had a couple of those. So I'm gonna 234 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: just kind of put that out there. First Off, Patrick Mahomes, 235 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: he's getting a ton of love in the industry streets 236 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: right now. You know, ADP ninety is pretty much the 237 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: cheapest you've ever been able to get him. But he 238 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: got hurt week fifteen, that's mid December to A and LCL. 239 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: I mean the reports. 240 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: He's working out seven hours a day and he's ahead 241 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: of schedule. Not like he was running much. But the 242 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: running he did do was effective, meaning when Mahomes ran, 243 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: he made it to the marker, extended to drive, very efficient, 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: part of why his. 245 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: EPA stuff is so great. 246 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm off Mahomes. I think they've telegraphed they don't really 247 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: want him running. Plus, I'm worried, I think, as I 248 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: should be when they brought in ken Walker. So I 249 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: think I'm out Mahomes at the price is way too 250 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: many quarterbacks all going at the same time. He's going 251 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: right next to Jackson Dirt. I'd rather have Dirt, who's 252 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: running and for all intensive purposes is healthy. 253 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: What do you think about. 254 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: Mahomes that's so interesting take. I think the exact opposite 255 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: approach on this player. I don't know that we've ever 256 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: been so divided on a player as Patrick Mahomes. We 257 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: should also mention very briefly, he just became the NFL's 258 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: first half a billion dollar player with that contract that 259 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: they gave him, so clearly they are comfortable with their investment. 260 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: And obviously we didn't expect this to be a long 261 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: term injury regardless. I remember Mahomes say that he's been 262 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: practicing with a brace on his left knee and something about, 263 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: you know, I wore a brace in college and it's 264 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: on the same knee and it's not too different. Obviously, 265 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: we want him to be unencumbered by the injury. For 266 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: what you said about his rushing ability, it's not like 267 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: he's Lamar Jackson and you're gonna get nine hundred rushing 268 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: yards out of him in a season. But even his 269 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: ability to scramble, extend plays, that sort of thing very 270 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: important for him. But you also said this is the 271 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: cheapest we've ever been able to get Patrick Mahomes, and 272 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: I feel like I've been saying this so much this offseason, 273 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna keep saying it because Mahomes used to 274 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: be this locked in top five fantasy quarterback and then 275 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: his decline coincided perfectly with Eric Bienemy leaving as offensive 276 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: coordinator and Matt Naggy coming in. Matt Naggy will do 277 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: that to a quarterback. He will cause them to slide, 278 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: especially for fantasy purposes. But the enemy is back, and 279 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: maybe Mahomes isn't as hungry as he used to be 280 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: as a young buck out there now that he's got paid. 281 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: But I'm willing to be wrong and take him as 282 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: late as he's going, acknowledging that maybe I'll scoop up 283 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: a really late quarterback for those first couple weeks, so 284 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I have to play Mahomes right away, 285 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: so we can kind of gauge it. But I'd rather 286 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: have him over Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart. The vibes are 287 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: bad with the Giants. He's injury I don't want to 288 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: say injury prone, but he's certainly inviting injuries than the 289 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: average quarterback does. So I think I'm going Mahomes. 290 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I could buy all that because 291 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm in the farious cheapskate and he's cheap, so I 292 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: get it. If Mahomes was going up near those top 293 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: two or three qbs, then I'd be a hard out. 294 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I've just pivoted towards the more running quarterbacks. That's always 295 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: how I've built again, having best ball brain on right now, 296 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: my QB two or QB three. I want guys that 297 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: can run. In redraft, you may have me. I may 298 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: want Mahomes over a guy like Dart, who really feels 299 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: very erratic and for me kind of built for best ball, 300 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: where we want all the spike weeks. We don't want 301 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: any of the floor weeks. Best ball affords you that 302 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: luxury where in redraft you could see Mahomes just consistently 303 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: doing his thing. I'm looking last year. I don't even 304 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: realize how great he was. You know, from week was 305 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: it four through nine? He had five straight top five 306 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: QB weeks. So it's still in there. No one understands 307 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: a game better. I think I just worried that they 308 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: might be funneling it more through. But I'm not gonna 309 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: start taking shots at Patrick Mahomes again if he's cheap. 310 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Next up, another quarterback. This is bow Knicks ADP. One 311 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: oh five. He got hurt even later. That happened right 312 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: unlike the second to last play or whatever that AFC 313 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: Divisional round game. He fractured his right angle ankle. He 314 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: had surgery with a follow up procedure in April. That's 315 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: the thing that kind of worries me. They're still saying 316 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: he's considered ahead of schedule and Week one looks likely. 317 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to take him over starting quarterbacks 318 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: like Matthew Stafford is going right there, Jared Goff, even 319 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Jordan Love, Tyler Shuck, all guys I'd probably 320 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: rather have than bow Knicks, who, again, we need him 321 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: to run. What is that going to be? 322 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: Like? 323 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: We haven't seen him do much of anything yet. What 324 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: do you think about bow Knicks? 325 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I get why he's going so much 326 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: later than Mahomes, because the injury happened later, and because 327 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: he needs his mobility much more than Patrick Mahomes to 328 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: be fantasy relevant. He's only played two years. In those years. Yeah, 329 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: he finished his QB seven, which is great back to 330 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: back years. That's amazing. He added Jalen Waddle to his arsenal. 331 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: That's all good stuff. But here's a fun fact, John, 332 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this. I didn't until today. 333 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: Bo Nix is one of only thirteen quarterbacks in NFL 334 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: history to throw the ball six hundred plus times in 335 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: a season without reaching four thousand passing yards. That's bad 336 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: rare air for a guy like him to be in 337 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: if he gets his mobility zapped away from him this year. 338 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, I like Wattle helping him out, but it's 339 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: not gonna help him be a top ten QB if 340 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: he has to try to stand in the pocket or 341 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: if he's really encumbered. And I know Sean Payton said 342 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: he came out. There's not gonna be any hiccups. Once 343 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: training camp starts, you decide for yourself how much you 344 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: want to trust Shundon. I trust him about as far 345 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: as I can block him across the NFL field. And 346 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: you might not know this listeners, although you probably do 347 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: because my voice gives away. I'm a pretty slight guy. 348 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: So it's not gonna go far. So I'm out on 349 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: Bonix probably entirely, unless we get some crazy good, you know, 350 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: PR coverage coming up here in the next few months. 351 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: Trust him as far as you could push him off 352 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: the ball. 353 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Right now, you are right about the QB price like 354 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: he is going much later than Mahomes. But it is 355 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: worth noting for anybody that maybe hasn't done fifty. Some 356 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: are drafts like I have. I have never seen such 357 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: consolidation for QB pricing. Josh Allen is an anomaly. He 358 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: goes way up top. Then you get Lamar and it's 359 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: been late for him. But Lamar in like the mid 360 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: to late fifties, and then come pick sixty five. It 361 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: just begins. I think I counted eighteen quarterbacks have a 362 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: ADP between sixty five and like one to oh five, 363 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: So in a forty pickspan, more than one out of 364 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: every three picks is a QB for like three or 365 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: four rounds in a row. So it just worth if 366 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: anybody is kind of doing some preseason work, maybe thinking 367 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: about doing basketball stuff, be ready. You have to really 368 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: choose between these guys. You really have to pick a pair, right, 369 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: You're picking a guy you like in the sixties and seventies, 370 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: then maybe one more that you like in that ninety 371 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: or one hundred range because the cover really empties out 372 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: very fast. 373 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: Worth noting. If you do get. 374 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: Caught waiting really late, you might want Daniel Jones our 375 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: next quarterback EDP one forty five. He also got hurt 376 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: in late in the season. That was December first week, 377 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: torn right achilles. Those can be really bad. We've also 378 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: seen that you know, sap running in power The next season, 379 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: he's doing seven on seven drills, which is encouraging, but 380 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure I'm trusting anything I'm seeing from DJ. 381 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: Also worth noting the team's success was so directly correlated 382 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: to him. I didn't think I'd ever be saying that 383 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones. 384 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: Right. 385 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: They were breaking all King differential records, all the EPA records, everything. 386 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: They were a wagon. And then he goes away and Jonathan. 387 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: Taylor, who was arcing for like greatest fantasy season ever, 388 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: like the smash pick you needed all of a sudden, 389 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: was costing people playoff matchups. So what do you think 390 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones? And then, more specifically, because he's going 391 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: late enough that we can make a cost argument, how 392 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: do you think it impacts the rest of the Colts. 393 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: That's what I'm really thinking about. 394 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we can't blame the Colts too much 395 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: when their reserve option was a guy who'd been coaching 396 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: high school football for like the last four seasons. Philip 397 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: Rivers comes off off the bench, off the bench, and 398 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: I was crazy from the distant pass to come and 399 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: try to save the season. So I'm not gonna really 400 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: hold it against any of the pass catchers on this 401 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: team if they have to go out there without Daniel Jones. 402 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: Riley Leonard for all intents and purposes, I still think 403 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: is a decent backup option if they decide to ride 404 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: with him. We don't know if it will be him 405 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: or whatever Gardener Minshew, but I do think Daniel Jones 406 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: is gonna be a tough sell. We don't know how 407 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are really affected by ACL stuff that are of 408 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: his caliber, because the last few ones it's like Aaron 409 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: Rodgers towards ACL. But he was on a new team 410 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: and on the verge of ten thousand years old. We 411 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 3: don't know that his exact follow up season is going 412 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: to translate to a guy like Daniel Jones. Necessarily. This 413 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: is where our lack of doctoring really shows. Probably, But 414 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: I do think Daniel Jones, if he's even not mobile, 415 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: he's a good enough passer, as he showed last year that, 416 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: like we were just talking about Josh Downs, I think 417 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: he's still gonna be fine, Tyler Warren, He's still gonna 418 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: be fine. So I'm not actually impacting the rest of 419 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: the cast because of this injury. It's just a matter 420 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: of do I even want to dare try Daniel Jones 421 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: with the last pick of my draft, you know, because 422 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: you can decide between him and a guy like Geno Smith. 423 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: Basically at this point, I'd rather at least take the 424 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: upshot of Daniel Jones. 425 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: I think that last point is a good one. I'm 426 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: also glad you mentioned the downs and warrant thing. They 427 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: are two players. I don't want to see that QB proof, 428 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: but those style of player can overcome quarterback quality because 429 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: a lot of it is getting open near the line 430 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and canting kind of lay up targets, high 431 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: probability targets. I think they're both really skilled and have 432 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: that ability to do so. If and when Daniel Jones 433 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: comes back, I think you're getting an immediate I don't know, 434 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: a wide receiver two in downs and definitely a tight 435 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: end one. I think you're getting a tight end one 436 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: regardless of Warren. I think you're getting a high end 437 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: tight end one with Jones back. So worth it with 438 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: those guys, I think to you know, still be buying 439 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: in even with question marks. As far as Jones himself, again, 440 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: it's laid enough if it fits the build. I think 441 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: you do it, Jake. Of course we ran on longer 442 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: than I wanted to. I don't know if we're going 443 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: to make it. Everybody, let me shuffle some papers, let's 444 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: take it. Let me take a quick breath. I want 445 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: to get into some running backs. And if this takes 446 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: too long, because I want to give everything the attention 447 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: that deserves, maybe we'll just break this episode into two 448 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: and do the pass catchers next time around. With whatever 449 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: news and no so ho going. We need to take 450 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: a quick broth. I got right back to you, all right, Jakes, 451 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for that. I know I didn't 452 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: have enough time to do any medical studying, but we 453 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: can't talk about some running backs, right. The lack of 454 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: medical training is really kind of showing through today. 455 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: So let's do the. 456 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: Running backs again. I want to give the attention here 457 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: because this stuff matters, right, Chaos is a ladder, and 458 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: these opportunities and these players are going to be impactful 459 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: one way or another. Right, either they hit the ground 460 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: running they're really good. We wanted them, or in a 461 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: case like cam Scatabo, let's say this goes wrong. You're 462 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: paying a top forty five overall pick and it could 463 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: really hurt you, right, so impact kind of goes both ways. 464 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Scatabo was hurt in week eight, so this is quite 465 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: a bit earlier than some of the other ones. That 466 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: two months can make a big difference. That was verse Philly. 467 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: He disslocated his ankle. It was a compound fracture, a 468 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: deltoid ligament tear, not that I know what that is now. 469 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: He had emergency surgery, which is like both good and bad, right, 470 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: we want these procedures immediately. The worst thing I think 471 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: is when teams and players try and heal things with 472 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: rest only to find out, oh, that didn't work. 473 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: Surgery is a good thing. 474 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: He showed up to all voluntary workouts. He has a 475 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: chance at week one. They're saying unlikely to be one 476 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent. We know Scatabo, and this is the guy 477 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: you want in fantasy catches the ball, all the end 478 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: zone work, and best friends with the quarterback. The two 479 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: of them together are like a you know, line share 480 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: of all the yard of and all the fantasy points. 481 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: What do you think about Scatabo. 482 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: He's a guy I had been drafting with my best 483 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: ball brain because I think we saw Tyrone Tracy get 484 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: you know the full workload, so I think those two 485 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: guys are fairly priced as a tandem. Talk to me 486 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: about the giants, scatabo you think about Big. 487 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: Blue, Well, John, I actually did take my MCATs over 488 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: the break, so I've come back with much more knowledge 489 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: now and I'm ready to break this down. Yes, and 490 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 3: here's what I've discovered with Cam Scataboo. His injury was 491 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: gross and gnarly. It was one of the worst injury 492 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: that we've seen in the last couple of years. I mean, 493 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: I appreciate that they want to get him as involved 494 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: as possible. I appreciate that he wants to be as 495 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: involved as possible, but the dude still runs like the freakin' 496 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: Juggernaut from X Men first, and I can't imagine he's 497 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 3: necessarily putting his health as priority number one. Uh So 498 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm still he's doing backflips, and of course he's doing backflips, 499 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: and they joked. 500 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: They were like, okay, Harball was like, all right, let's 501 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: let's it's good to see the mobility, but let's cut 502 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: back on the gymnastics. Sorry to cut you off, but 503 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned it could I couldn't believe it when I 504 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: saw that. 505 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: If he backflips his way into another injury, I unfortunately 506 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: wouldn't all be that surprised by it, which is the 507 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: thing that scares me about drafting a guy like Cam'scattaboo 508 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: is he's going so high, and yes, the expectation can 509 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: be he's going to be seventy percent of the backfield 510 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: or maybe even he's going to be fifty percent of 511 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: the team production at this point if Malik Neighbors has 512 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: worse issues, which we'll discuss later, but I I'm still 513 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: just the only Giant that I'm really comfortable drafting right 514 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: now truly is Isaiah Likely and Tyrone Tracy, as you 515 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: mentioned very late, because the possibility of injuries so high. 516 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 3: With Skataboo, he's also one of those pieces obviously, along 517 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: with Jackson Dart who has his own injury concerns, and 518 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: Milig Neighbors, who has his own injury concerns, they feel 519 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: like a team one injury away from looking like the 520 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: you know, fricking Miami Dolphins this year. So I'm pretty nervous. 521 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm taking Isaiah Likely and I'm just staying away pretty 522 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: much from the rest of his crew. 523 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely say not overloading on giants is 524 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: a good idea, though, I have to be honest. 525 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: Transparency is kind of my thing. 526 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: I have lots of giants spread out, right, so I 527 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: have some Scatabo and Tracy tandems. But I'm trying not 528 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: to do that with Dart and Likely. I'm with you, Unlikely. 529 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: Those are teams that I like to have Jackson Dart 530 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: when I have a running quarterback, especially when I could 531 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: get a little bit later, I like to pay them 532 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: with the tight ends. I was talking about Ulsage and 533 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Malik Willis also. I think that's a cool kind of 534 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: late pairing. That's like a team move version of the Giants, 535 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: which maybe says something about either of them. 536 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure, but it's not good whatever it says. 537 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: See, I think Scatibo is a bit of a risk. 538 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: I think you should be worried. I think I like 539 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: him more in redraft right, if he's healthy. You want 540 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: that week one stuff. We're all gonna be dealing with 541 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: injuries and figuring out waiver stuff as we go. I 542 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 1: want the guy that could get me off to a 543 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: great start. I mean, the type of usage he was 544 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: getting is hard to find, especially that part of the 545 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: draft board, though there is another player and he's going 546 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: around later. He's the next on our injury board here. 547 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: It's Quinn Shawn Jenkins for Cleveland, who really impressed me 548 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: given the late start and lack of preparation last year. 549 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: He got hurt in late December Week sixteen versus Buffalo. 550 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 2: It was nasty. 551 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Also dislocated right ankle and a fractured fibula. I couldn't believe. 552 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: I was watching videos of him right now. He looks awesome. 553 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: They're over the moon for him and his prospects. What's 554 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: the problem. One team's live players, lie Jake, but also 555 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: it's the ecosystem of the Browns. 556 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: This is ADP fifty. 557 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: Five, which, if you think you're getting one hundred percent Judkins, 558 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: I think is good. My worry is how good are 559 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: they gonna be? And his pass game work has been 560 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: threatened by Samson, So given the late time of the 561 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: injury with Judkins, and I think, like I mentioned, bad environment, 562 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: with the threat of the backup losing some passwork, I 563 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: think I'm out on Judkins. 564 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: I think I'm letting other people go that way. What 565 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: do you think? 566 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, if literally everything goes perfectly for him, then I'm 567 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 3: comfortable at his ADP, but I'm still not even necessarily 568 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 3: over the moon at his ADP. So yeah, that to 569 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: me just says back off. And I know that. Yeah, 570 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: it's it's team lying offseason, it's coach speaks season. They're 571 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: gonna say he's confident and explosive and ahead of a schedule, 572 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: because what are you supposed to say about your star 573 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: running back? And I know that supposedly his injury was 574 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: higher up on the ankle, so it was like a 575 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: best case scenario for him. I think best case scenario 576 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: is that he actually turns into a pass catching running back, 577 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: which I don't think is on the table because you 578 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: mentioned Dylan Sampson still there. And best case scenario would 579 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 3: be he's in an offense that has a lot of 580 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: scoring potential, which I just don't see with this year's 581 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: version of the Brown. So if he's one hundred percent 582 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: good to go and there's no setbacks, fine, But like you, 583 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: I will probably just bypass that position around where he's 584 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: being drafted and pivot to something else. 585 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: So Jokins is going right next to Daring Price, who 586 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm over the moon for, and I will not be 587 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: fielding any you know, one v one questions on him, 588 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: because to me, that's already a given. What the answer is, 589 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: I do have another injured player. He's not on our 590 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: list because he didn't finish the year injured. 591 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: Where are you? How about Bucky Irvin. 592 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: This is a decision lots of people have to make, 593 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: and the answer could be neither. That's my answer, not 594 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: to bury with the lead Bucky Irvin v. Quinchin Pupkins 595 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: at the same ADP. 596 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: Jake, Yeah, I wonder if we're overreacting a bit too 597 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: much to Bucky Irving. 598 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: Now. 599 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: I've been worried about Bucky Irving and so I understand 600 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: and understood his initial decline in ADP. I just wonder 601 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: that we're over correcting now because if he's going this 602 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: far down and we know that he is a good 603 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: pass catcher, obviously Kenny Gainwell is there, and we've talked 604 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: a lot about Kenny Gainwell being somebody to target later 605 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: in drafts because he's an improvement I think over a 606 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: shod white. But if Bucky does look like he did 607 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: a year and a half ago, I think we're gonna 608 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: feel a little foolish. So based on upside, I would 609 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: much rather have Bucky Irving than Quinn Shod Judkins. I 610 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: don't know that I'm gonna trip over myself to click 611 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: draft on him, but if he keeps slipping down even 612 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: a little bit more, I might have to. 613 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 614 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: I was really big at the Bucky the first year. 615 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: That was a hit king back for the Encore. That 616 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: didn't work out. The injury kind of lingered. I ended 617 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: up getting stung, And now this year the points they 618 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: make are very good. Hard not to worry about gainwell 619 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: and then Talker is back there. But I would agree 620 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: a one hundred percent Bucky Irving wins that the job. 621 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know one's getting one hundred percent of carries right. 622 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: Those days are over, but yeah, I think he could 623 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: still be great with a price that's moving down. Right, 624 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: That's when my antenna starts to pop. So it'll be 625 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: interesting to see. But I think we're in agreement. Neither 626 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: of us are going to end up with a lot 627 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: of Judkins at cost too many red flags, or we 628 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: got two more running backs. I want to get through 629 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: them both. And again we'll give the pass catchers their 630 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: due next week because this is really good stuff, where 631 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, talking about a lot of process stuff, pulling 632 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: the curtain on what we think about these players and 633 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: then all the subsequent stuff. Next up is Jonathan Brooks, 634 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: who I've been lucky enough to completely avoid because I'm 635 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: kind of a curmudgeon when it comes to injuries. The 636 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: second I hear guys injured right now, I'm not interested. 637 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: Brooks is not injured right now now. He did retear 638 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: a right ACL in December, but it was of twenty four, right, 639 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: so we haven't seen him. He's had the time. They 640 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: are just gushing over him right now. I mean not 641 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: only are they gushing over him right now, they've telegraphed 642 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: it with the roster move right allowing ric o'dowdell, who 643 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: was gosh, Barry Sanders. You know, when Walter Peton rolled 644 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: into one for like a three week stretch last year, 645 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: they moved on from him with with Truba Hubbard. He's 646 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: still there. But the way they're talking about Brooks is 647 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: man he could maybe be a one A and again, 648 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: pricing is really tough. He's at pick one oh eight. 649 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: He's very polarizing player. I feel like people are either 650 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: way on it, in on him, or all the way out. 651 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: Where do you stand on Jonathan Brooks for the Panthers. 652 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: Jonathan with two o's Brooks is that how Jonathan is 653 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: always spelled by the way I thought there was it 654 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: was a thha N, not thh o N. And I 655 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: can't stop looking at it. 656 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I didn't notice that till just now, 657 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was gonna say, I think you 658 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: have a typo. 659 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: It's j O N. I thought that's where you were 660 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: placing the second. Oh you don't, No, no, no, no, no, 661 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: you're right. I've never seen that. 662 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: Now I'll never draft him. I can't even understand the 663 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: concept of how his name spelled. I can't believe in 664 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: him for my fantasy team. No, I do think that 665 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: there's obvious risk. He's a running back coming off of 666 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: consecutive torn acls, and remember how long it took for 667 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: Javonte Williams to get back to his old self after 668 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: just one ACL tear. But the better news for Brooks 669 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: is that he's so young. He's still only twenty two 670 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: years old, so maybe his recovery timeline looks a lot 671 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: faster than a guy that's even three years You know 672 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: that seat. 673 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, he's had ample time at this point. 674 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, he's he's had tons of time, and if 675 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: he's not out there sort of beleaguering the injury further, 676 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: like he's not being asked to run through the injury 677 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: in games, which could probably be a set pack for 678 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: a lot of guys. Then the freshness probably does account 679 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: for something, John, and I will say, Rico Daldo you 680 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 3: mentioned he outpaced Toba Hubbard last year. Granted part of 681 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: that was because of Hubbard's own calf injury that flared up, 682 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: but the team showed confidence in Brooks. You don't let 683 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: Rico Daudo walk because it's not like he was gonna 684 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: have to get a massive payday. You could afford to 685 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: keep both chubbered chubbered Hubbard. 686 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: And that's a good one. I actually like that we should. 687 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: Just cut through it and call him chubbered from here 688 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: on out. I think save space, save you know, vowels. 689 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: In any case, I think that Brooks has the vote 690 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: of confidence. And at this range, who has this kind 691 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: of upside around where he's being drafted. Not a ton 692 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: of guys, So I get the appeal. 693 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the name of the game. In the triple 694 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: digit picks, Remember most of these guys are going to 695 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: get dropped or hurt before the first month of play's over. 696 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: So if you have a chance at player to check 697 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: the box is to be the big breakout. I think 698 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Brooks is that I don't know if it's gonna happen. 699 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm making a week one, 700 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: but that is the type of play that could hit, 701 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: so I depending on my build. 702 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: That's where I've been. Let's do this last player really quick. 703 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: It's Zach Charbonnay on the Seahawks ADP one sixty five. 704 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: I believe he's gonna start moving up now. He tore 705 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: on ACL in January in the wild card game. That's 706 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: part of why I've been so high on Price. I 707 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: normally give twelve months for recovery. Is kind of what 708 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: we were mentioning why I'm into the early injuries. I 709 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: want the twelve month recovery time to land in the 710 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: off season so there's no pressure to return to early. 711 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: I always feel like everybody, the player, the staff, the coaches, 712 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: everybody has a vested interest in getting these guys on 713 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: the field. They don't know better, you know. They they 714 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: want to win, they want to play, and I worry. 715 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: So when I see the timeline, that's what I'm into. 716 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: This is the opposite. This feels totally rushed. I don't 717 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: know how we could get this guy back. He had 718 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: surgery in late February. Nine month recovery usually minimum that's October, 719 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 1: November or and now they're like they're trying to talk about 720 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: having him available early. There was a mention of week 721 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: one today. Yeah, right, not gonna happen. So I'm hoping 722 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: that people run with that week one narrative and it 723 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: hopefully will knock price down around where I'll be there 724 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: to scoop him up on one hundred percent of teams. 725 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: It's not that I don't like sharbon Ay. I just 726 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: think this is putting the cart before the horse way. 727 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: Too many things can go wrong, and you risk the 728 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: reaggravation if you rush back too fast. So I'm out 729 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: on Sharves even at pick one sixty five. 730 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: I'd rather have Halani one v one right now. Where 731 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 2: are you on, Charboney? Yeah? 732 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: I mean I mentioned Devonte Williams and his like two 733 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: year process to looking as good or close to as 734 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: good as he did initially. CHARBERTA doesn't have even like 735 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 3: you said a full year to get back to his 736 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 3: old self, and let me remind you his old self 737 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 3: was not anything fantas astic for your fantasy teams. A 738 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: healthy Charbone never finished higher than RB twenty nine in 739 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 3: PPR points per game. Yeah, they let Kenneth Walker go 740 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: in free agency, but they spent the first round pick 741 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 3: on Jendarian Price. So unless Price just completely winds up 742 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: an unexpected bust, they're not gonna give Charbonet the workload 743 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 3: that you want to be this invested in a guy. 744 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, give me Price, give me Halani, give me 745 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson if you want to just take a contrarian 746 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 3: shot later on in your drafts. But there's no chance 747 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: that I'm doing anything with Charbonet. 748 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 749 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Well, an Emmanuel Wilson mentioned means it's time to get 750 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: out of here, mister Jake. 751 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: You know what. I'm glad that we took the time. Though. 752 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: We will sever the back end of the outline and 753 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: we'll go back to it next week with pass catches 754 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: and whatever news and olds come up. Thanks so much 755 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: everybody for hanging along with us. Enjoy your weekend. Thanks 756 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: for listening to Fantasy Football Weekly and we'll see you soon. 757 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: I know no, you know no.