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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Somehow we made it to a Friday. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program. I'm exhausted. It's a meat Friday. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the trigger grills are all fired up. Mario's

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Speaker 1: father is coming in. Yes, Mario said, can my dad

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Speaker 1: come in and cook some Querto Rican food? And I

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Speaker 1: said sure. Well, oh, buddy, you know who's a little

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Speaker 1: down on the dumps today, Tyler. Tyler normally does our

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Speaker 1: cooking on Friday. Tyler is a real sad guy today.

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Speaker 1: But Mario's dad is coming in and we've got roasted

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Speaker 1: of that courtesy of the Tragger Girls. Ye see this,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the prediction now might be the best

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Speaker 1: thing we've ever had. That's quite a prediction. I'm calling

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Speaker 1: it right now. It's gonna be one of the tastiest

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Speaker 1: things you've ever eaten in your whole life. Yea, Polly

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Speaker 1: Tyler Sea, Yeah, yeah, Well, remember when we had Alan

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Speaker 1: we went Alan who and then Tyler the moderator, Tighter

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Speaker 1: the chef, Tyler the cooker, Tyler the creator. Yeah what

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Speaker 1: wuzzbin to be a has been though. Okay, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: Mario is bringing It's bring your dad to work day.

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Speaker 1: But of course I can't and Polly can't and Fritzie

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Speaker 1: I didn't know it an official holiday. Yeah, dad was

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Speaker 1: just cooking. Yeah, mclovin's dad's coming in, Sean's dad's coming in.

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Speaker 1: When is bring a picture of your dead dad to

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Speaker 1: to invite my dad. Well, next year, I can't even

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Speaker 1: bring my mom in. Yeah, well, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: match as two great teams could be. They both came

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Speaker 1: into last night's Winter take All game with one hundred

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Speaker 1: and nine victories on the season. They went down to

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Speaker 1: the ninth inning the last strike now Cody Bellinger's single

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Speaker 1: gave the Dodgers a two one lead. Then they sealed

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Speaker 1: the win when Max Scherzer got his first career save,

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Speaker 1: you struck out Wilmer Flores on a check swing. A

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Speaker 1: brutal loss for the Giants. It was a special season

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Speaker 1: and this is a matchup that probably should have come

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Speaker 1: later in the postseason and been a seven game series.

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Speaker 1: But the system is what it is and provided plenty

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Speaker 1: of drama here. And while losing now is brutal for

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Speaker 1: the Giants, this has to have reignited one of the

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Speaker 1: great sports rivalries. Teams don't like each other, fans don't

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Speaker 1: like each other. The Dodgers move on, trying to repeat

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Speaker 1: his champs. As for the Giants, hopefully they move on

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Speaker 1: rival again next season. But it was everything you wanted.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Mookie Bets is still great. He

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Speaker 1: And the Red Sox got rid of mookie bets. Huh,

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Speaker 1: Dodgers getting their money's worth there. But you know, Max

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Speaker 1: had three hundred and sixty six wins, Pud Galvin three

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Speaker 1: sixty one, Tom sever three fourteen the only pitchers with

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Speaker 1: stat of the day. The game ended on a check

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Speaker 1: against Max Scherzer out. Was it the wrong call? Yes,

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Speaker 1: be the overall picture here, because you can say, Wilmer Flores, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that last night. Here's Gabe Kapler, the Giants manager, on

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Speaker 1: do it after the fact. That's not reviewable. That check

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Speaker 1: You want to do replay, you want to do a

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Speaker 1: So that's not fair. That's what it's been. And nobody

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Speaker 1: And then if you want to make a change with

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Speaker 1: Giants in the divisional Round? No? I didn't. It felt

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Speaker 1: National League Championship Series. I didn't make the rules. I

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Speaker 1: abide by them, and that's what we should do as well.

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Speaker 1: You want to make a change, make a change next year.

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Speaker 1: You want to review a check swing. Review a check

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Speaker 1: lost because they played with fire. The ending is bad,

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Speaker 1: but the Giants lost because they scored ten runs in

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Speaker 1: No it's not. What did it come down to? A

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Speaker 1: couple of timely hits and great pitching, time honored tradition

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Speaker 1: and as great as the Giants were this year. And

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Speaker 1: it's a wonderful story, one of the great stories that

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Speaker 1: we've had in a long long time because everybody underestimated them.

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Speaker 1: It ends in a way that you don't want it

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Speaker 1: to end. But did I think Wilmer Flores was going

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Speaker 1: to solve Max Scherzer. I didn't. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that you should still go. Okay, you know it's a

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Speaker 1: bad call. It is a bad call, but this is

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Speaker 1: in very bonds of nineteen ninety three at the plate

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Speaker 1: here it's Wilmer Flores bad call, But that's not the

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Speaker 1: reason why the Giants lost. Your phone calls are always welcome.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three DP show mc loove and you

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Speaker 1: got a pull question for Yeah, I actually wrote this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna believe this, but should check swings be reviewable?

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Speaker 1: We'm not right? Yes? Right after the show, yes right? You?

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Speaker 1: Seeton said to me, He's like, what do you think

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Speaker 1: review him. It was weird at fifteen minute debate about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can you check the time stamp on that, because I

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Speaker 1: believe you mclovin. But the actual conversation is none of

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Speaker 1: the day that's really knew. What was the difference between

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Speaker 1: a strike and check swing. I don't know if even

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Speaker 1: the umpire is now well, it used to be if

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Speaker 1: How's morale? Morale is fantastic, although I'm a little frustrated.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna need to do that at

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Speaker 1: that point time in his career down the road. But

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Speaker 1: I think he's still going to scare you with it,

427
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, he's still going to do it five to

428
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Speaker 1: six seven times a game, enough to make you have

429
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Speaker 1: to account for him. Josh Allen, you're comfortable with him

430
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: running the way he runs because he takes on contact.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm comfortable now. I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: comfortable two years from now, you know. And watching him

433
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: hurdle guys, I mean I thought, I mean, I'd pull

434
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Speaker 1: my growing at this point in time if I get

435
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: my legs spread apart too far. So watching him do that,

436
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's just it's not worth the risk. And

437
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to teach guys that until they

438
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: go through an injury. But you know, I go and

439
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: say that, and then you watch Joe Burrow last week,

440
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: who scrambles outside the pockets running down field and he

441
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: ends up, you know, taking a shot or unnecessary hit

442
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: that he didn't need to take and he just tores ACL.

443
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: So I think the hard thing and not to go

444
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Speaker 1: back to Lamar, But even talking about Josh Allen is

445
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: trying to change that mentality in your head, you know,

446
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: because when you get out there, especially as you're as

447
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: big as Josh Allen is, or you've been as successful

448
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson has a making guys miss You're not

449
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: thinking about any consequences or the downside risk of it.

450
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: It's only until after the fact you go, oh, maybe

451
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: I need to change my game a little bit, And

452
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: then you have to ask yourself, are they going to

453
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: be the same player if they take that out of

454
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Speaker 1: their game? Maybe not talking to Brady Quinn in Fox

455
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: Sports College Football and NFL studio and game analyst, I

456
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. Maybe Jimmy Johnson opened the door

457
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: this weekend on Fox Sports The Pregame Show where he

458
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Speaker 1: said he would take Justin Herbert over Patrick Mahomes, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it became a topic of

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Speaker 1: conversation this week on the different shows. I'll put that

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Speaker 1: question to you. Would you take Justin Herbert over Patrick

462
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Speaker 1: Mahomes right now? I wouldn't right now. I think Patrick

463
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Speaker 1: has already been proven in this league and the types

464
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Speaker 1: of when I look at the two as passers, okay,

465
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Speaker 1: not throwers. Passers meaning the ability to articulate their arm

466
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Speaker 1: to make whatever throw they need to or shape a

467
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: throw to whatever way they need to. I think Patrick

468
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: is still more talented in that respect now Don't get

469
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: me wrong, Justin Herbert has a howitzer for an arm,

470
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: and his accuracy downfield, especially like fifteen yards plus outside

471
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Speaker 1: the numbers, it might be the best in the league

472
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Speaker 1: right now. But as far as the touch throws and

473
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Speaker 1: shaping throws and articulating his arm, he doesn't have that

474
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Speaker 1: quite as much as Patrick does. And so I think

475
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Speaker 1: you could put Patrick on a bunch of different teams

476
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and he could probably survive and be

477
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Speaker 1: able to split the football out. I think Justin found

478
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Speaker 1: himself in a really good situation that staff that's playing

479
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: to his strengths. But last year you saw that. In

480
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: this year, their offensive line play doesn't get enough credit

481
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Speaker 1: or Sean Slater's studs, So there's a lot of those

482
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Speaker 1: working parts. You know, Mahomes is playing for a team

483
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: right now that's got a defense that's giving up, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: yards per play equivalent to the greatest show on turf.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean literally, they're giving up seven point one yards

486
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: per play the Rams Back in the day, I used

487
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: to get seven yards per play. So it's like every

488
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: time the Chiefs walk on the field, they're playing the

489
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Speaker 1: greatest show on turf. It's tough to go up against

490
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Speaker 1: that as a quarterback. But I don't know how this

491
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: became open season on Patrick Mahomes because it feels like

492
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Speaker 1: that like the Chiefs are vulnerable. It just feels like,

493
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe people should realize what Patrick Mahomes has

494
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: been trying to keep together there, because the Chiefs haven't

495
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: had an impressive defense. It's just that offense kind of

496
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: overshadows and cleans up all the blemishes here. But when

497
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: I and I love Justin Herbert, he's just not at

498
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes's level right now. And that's yeah, yeah, it's

499
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Speaker 1: not a knock on him. If I said you can

500
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Speaker 1: have Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes, who are you taking Gosh?

501
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Speaker 1: I mean, I probably still take Patrick, but that one's

502
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: closer and closer being pretty questionable because because Josh does

503
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: have those traits of being able to throw a little

504
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: bit side arm, being able to kind of roll to

505
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Speaker 1: his left and just kind of twist his upper body

506
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: to make those throws, and I think he's more effective

507
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Speaker 1: as a runner. So you know, that's a tough one

508
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Speaker 1: because I think we've seen Josh slowly kind of build

509
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Speaker 1: to this where right now you'd probably say he's the

510
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: MVP of the league. Always played or Tom Brady or

511
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. He said he could. I mean, he said

512
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Speaker 1: he can play another ten years. He said he probably wouldn't.

513
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: Why why would Brady not continue? Now? He says he

514
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: won't spend time with his family and all those things.

515
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I understand that, right, but right do you think he

516
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: could play five till he's fifty. I don't know why

517
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: you think he couldn't. I mean, one of the most

518
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: impressive things was when you go back and look at

519
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: that first touchdown past Antonio Brown, just the way he

520
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: still slides and moves in the pocket like that's all

521
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: he needs to do. I remember playing for Jim Zorn

522
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: and him saying to me, He's like, you don't have

523
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: to be the fastest or quickest guy in the pocket.

524
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: You just have to be sudden. And it reminds me

525
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: of like all those older boxers that they don't have

526
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: like what they used to have as far as quickness

527
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: then buility to move, but they just have to be

528
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: sudden enough to make a guy in this and then

529
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Speaker 1: deliver the throw. And so he still got that. I

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00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: think if he still has the old line and the

531
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: situation of playmakers around him like he has. Yeah, he

532
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: could play as long as he needs to. And I

533
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe there's something that TB twelfth method, like

534
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you give more credit to Alex Guerrero and

535
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: the people who are involved, because it seems to be

536
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: working for everyone who works with those guys. Well, maybe

537
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: you were too muscle bound when you worked out for

538
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: John Gruden coming out of Notre Dame. I remember you

539
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: telling us the story. This is like five years ago,

540
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: but yeah, he thought you were too muscle bound. He

541
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: was very enamored with my traps at that point, which

542
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. We're not sure. Why did you did

543
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: he verbalize comfortable? Did he say hey, yeah, he had

544
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: a laser pointer. We had a laser pointer. So he

545
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: was up there and we were going through it and

546
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: he was like pointed out. And the weird thing was

547
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: was like, I obviously see myself about a shirt on often,

548
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: but I never felt more awkward or uncomfortable sitting in

549
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: that moment. He's like using a laser pointer to point

550
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: outa he's got a picture of you with your shirt off.

551
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: It was well it was from the combine, you know,

552
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: So you go up there and your skippies, and you know,

553
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: they take a photo of you, which, like Tom Brady's

554
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: is probably the most famous, like everyone's seen, and then

555
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: one of me. You know at that point, you know,

556
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: obviously worked out hard. You know, I got two parents

557
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: who I got great genetics, so it comes maybe a

558
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: little easier for me. But he's pointing all this stuff out.

559
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't need a guy who looks

560
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: like this and all this stuff. And then you know,

561
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: he showed another quarterback who tended to be a little

562
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: heavier set. He's like, I don't want this either, and

563
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: then he showed another quarterback. He's like I want this guy.

564
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: This guy looks like I can go out and have

565
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: a beer with him. And I was just like all right,

566
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: like I'm not sure what you want me to say

567
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: to this, So I mean we want to go grab

568
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: a beer now, or like, look, we're gonna go work,

569
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Like what do we do? So who were those other

570
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks? JaMarcus Russell was the other one who obviously

571
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: you know I trained with JaMarcus pre draft, and you know,

572
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much. I mean he was uber talented.

573
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at Josh Allen Justin Herbert

574
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: Patch moms, all the arms, strong arms. I've never seen

575
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: an arm like his, like I remember it was me

576
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: and him who went in the first round. I was

577
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: I was watching him the front. I was like, well,

578
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: good god, he's gonna go before me. I don't have

579
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: the appeal to throw a ball like that. But he was.

580
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't work out very hard. I mean

581
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: I was there often. I'd trust me, if he would

582
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: have been there, I would have seen him. And I

583
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: very rarely ever saw him there in preparation for all

584
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: of that. But he was the one quarterback man. Charlie

585
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: Frye was the other quarterback. Didn't Gruden draft Charlie Frye.

586
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: I can't recall if he drift well, I don't know.

587
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: Charlie got drafted to Cleveland. But Bruce Gretkowski. So, Bruce

588
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: Gurkowski was on. So this was all like a film,

589
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: like like you we were watching like a cut up

590
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: he had and it opened up with like him showing

591
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: some cheerleaders or dancing, and so I was like, what

592
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: the hell is this? And then he had like a

593
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: cheetah that was like jumping on a gazelle and like

594
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: tearing it apart, and I was like, all right, that's

595
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: kind of cool. Still don't know, like this us doing football.

596
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: And then he kind of went through the whole combine

597
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: photos and then he started showing some like he showed

598
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: some bad plays like Bruce Gurkowski and like, you know

599
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: what we'd be looking at hearing all the stuff and

600
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: this is what I need. And then he started going

601
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: through like the college tape. But it was like he

602
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: was famous for that. You know, he's famous for the

603
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: film sessions, all the cutups. So but that was back

604
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: when he was the head coach at Tampa. Like your

605
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: head has to be spinning, like you're thinking, late, what

606
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: am I getting myself? Like what what does he think

607
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm any good? Well, I mean he talks. He talks

608
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: you up like we were out there because then he

609
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: brought in two wide receivers and then I had a

610
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver and running back who were catching for me

611
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: before that workout, and so he would talk you up.

612
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: And he was through the whole time doing drills and

613
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: he was a ton of fun to work with. But

614
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, and after you kind of put your arm around,

615
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I'm gonna come up and draft your

616
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: word going to come get you in all this stuff

617
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: and you don't know, you've never been through it before.

618
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: So you know, the cynic in me is like, yeah, okay,

619
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: like well we'll see when that day comes. But the

620
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: other side of me was like, how cool would that be?

621
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: You get to play for this guy every single day?

622
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: And obviously with everything that's come out of late, you know,

623
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: it's it's sad to see that behind closed doors, that's

624
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: how he's talk or that's how he was handling things.

625
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: But you know, again, I mean that whole experience was

626
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: just I guess head spinning is one of those is

627
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: the best way to put it before I let you go.

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00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: This Oklahoma situation is really interesting with Spencer Rattler, who

629
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought Heisman Trophy, and you know

630
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: my point was maybe first overall pick right, yeah, And

631
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: I kept saying, watch him play a game. Don't watch

632
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: the highlights, because he is a highlight, but watch him.

633
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: He got bench last year and he's not consistent, and

634
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, you got Lincoln Riley, he can cover up

635
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Now you've got a situation where

636
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: if you're Spencer Rattler and you look and you see

637
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: the future is out there on the field and it's

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Speaker 1: not you. What do you do if you're Spencer Ratler

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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. It's such a tough decision because if he

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Speaker 1: feels like he's not going to be the guy, there's

641
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Speaker 1: still so much football left he played, Like, I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest mistake you can make right now is making

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Speaker 1: an irrational decision and deciding to transfer right away. Like

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Speaker 1: we've already seen that in certain cases, Like we've already

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Speaker 1: seen guys who have done that this season, and I

646
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Speaker 1: think that's a bad look. Is one you don't know

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Speaker 1: if Caleb Williams as athletic as he is, if he

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Speaker 1: gets injured, your team needs you, you're right back in there.

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Speaker 1: So that's the first thing. The next thing is is

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Speaker 1: you know he's draft eligible, Like does he look at

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Speaker 1: this quarterback class and go, I'm going to prove the

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Speaker 1: people that like, yeah, I haven't played my best. Necessarily

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Speaker 1: I'm not at my best, but they can draft me

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Speaker 1: and they can help me get there. Because he is talented.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one's going to deny his arm, strength,

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Speaker 1: ability to throw off platform, all those things, but he

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Speaker 1: needs a lot of experience and more work. He could

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Speaker 1: look at other situations that are out there right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, he might be looking at a place like

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Speaker 1: Georgia and say, I'd like to go in there, behind

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Speaker 1: that offensive line, with those playmakers, you know, not have

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Speaker 1: to worry about winning a shootout with that defense, and

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Speaker 1: go play there, or go play anywhere else and try

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Speaker 1: to transfer, right, That's always a part of it. My

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Speaker 1: concern is that the parents direct because at this age,

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Speaker 1: like even though you're a young man and you have

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Speaker 1: your desires and goals and what you want to do,

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Speaker 1: the parents sometimes start to lean in on that too,

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Speaker 1: and they start to shape and that could be good

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Speaker 1: and bad. And so look, I don't know his personality

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Speaker 1: from with his family, but that that also is a

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Speaker 1: factor in all of this. And that's where I wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the parents, especially just having coach high

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Speaker 1: school kids now, knowing how overbearing they can be, if

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Speaker 1: they start weighing in on that, you know, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: get somewhere else right now, let's go somewhere else. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on. This isn't a good place for you. That's

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Speaker 1: the hard thing because for the young man, he's always

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Speaker 1: identified himself as a quarterback, and when that's taken away

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Speaker 1: from you. You get it put on the bench, it

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Speaker 1: shocks you. I mean, it really recks your entire world.

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Speaker 1: And so you could be in a tough headspace and

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Speaker 1: you can let anyone talk you into anything at that

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Speaker 1: point in time. So hopefully he can let his emotions

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Speaker 1: pass and they can get some kind of some more

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Speaker 1: clarity of what their point is moving forward, depending on

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Speaker 1: how the season goes, have a great weekend. Tell the

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Speaker 1: guys we said allow and have fun. Thank you, Brady,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you to thank you. All right. That's

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Speaker 1: six to nine. You imagine you're there and Gruden is

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Speaker 1: diagramming you without a shirt off, looking at your traps,

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Speaker 1: called him too muscular and Brady, you know, Brady looks

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Speaker 1: somebody like Charlie Fry, Bruce Gradkowski. Yes, I still don't

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Speaker 1: totally understand that cheetah tackling the gazelle in the highlight glimpse. Well,

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Speaker 1: I started with cheerleaders. Then you go to the cheetah

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Speaker 1: and the gazelle, not gizelle gazelle. Big difference there. All right,

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Speaker 1: team decided that now was a good time to retire

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Speaker 1: it out yesterday. Well, it came as a surprise to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, including apparently Sean Taylor's family. Now, normally,

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Speaker 1: maybe they made a mistake and forgot to tweet it

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Speaker 1: out sooner, like when Monday two weeks ago, six weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: maybe in the preseason. I mean, you're really gonna pay

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Speaker 1: tribute to a great defensive player who was tragically killed

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Speaker 1: in his home and now you're going to retire his jersey.

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Speaker 1: It just felt like there's a lot of things going

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Speaker 1: on with the Washington football team. Hey, how about we

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Speaker 1: finally retire Sean Taylor's jersey number Yes by Jason Write,

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Speaker 1: The team president this morning posted something on the Washingt

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Speaker 1: football team website and said they had the best of intentions.

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Speaker 1: They had planned on it for a while to do it,

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Speaker 1: Sean Taylor's jersey retiring at alumni weekend, as they called

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Speaker 1: us this weekend. They thought it would focus more national

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Speaker 1: attention on it if they tweeted it out just days

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Speaker 1: before the game. They apologize for not letting people know

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Speaker 1: so they can make plans to fly in travel in

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Speaker 1: longtime Redskins fans now Washingt football team. Okay, they thought

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Speaker 1: they were going to get more publicity with less publicity.

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Speaker 1: Well it turned out they could dig it more publicity

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Speaker 1: and not in a good way. Yeah. Yeah, but they

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Speaker 1: said the plan was, it's been planned for a while.

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Speaker 1: They call it alumni weekend. Okay, okay, but if they

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Speaker 1: know it's alumni week Alumni weekend, what are you doing

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Speaker 1: for alumni weekend? Oh, we're gonna honor Sean Taylor. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, how about week one? Bobby Mitchell and

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Speaker 1: Sean Taylor are the start of what they hope will

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Speaker 1: be an honored tradition here as it is in many

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Speaker 1: other places. We knew Alumni Weekend was the right moment

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Speaker 1: for us to retire number twenty one. So now and okay,

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Speaker 1: it is, but don't it shouldn't be a secret, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Timing just seems a little Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: look at this great thing we're doing with Sean Taylor.

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Speaker 1: How long ago to Sean Taylor pass away? Is it fourteen?

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Speaker 1: Fourteen years ago? It's been a long time since Sean

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Speaker 1: passed away, But now you'd get around to retiring his

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Speaker 1: jersey fourteen years ago? Two seven? You know, call me

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Speaker 1: a cynic maybe, But with what's going on with Washington

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Speaker 1: football team, there were a couple more emails that were leaked,

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Speaker 1: had to do with Bruce Allen, former team president, and

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Speaker 1: had to do with some correspondence with a lawyer in

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Speaker 1: the NFL Home office. There probably won't get that much attention,

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Speaker 1: but from what I'm told by a source who was

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Speaker 1: involved in this, the cover up is worse than the crime.

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Speaker 1: And you got these emails being leaked, and from what

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Speaker 1: I was told this morning at around seven thirty six

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Speaker 1: this morning, the NFL is trying to make sure they're

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Speaker 1: protecting some owners here. Now, what's going to be in

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Speaker 1: those correspondents going to be from Daniel Snyder to somebody

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Speaker 1: or somebody to Daniel Snyder. But that's what I was told.

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Speaker 1: They cover up will be worse than the crime. Yeah, poh,

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Speaker 1: this is the fourth leak in just less than a week.

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Speaker 1: If you go back to the Adam Schefter Schefter story

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Speaker 1: from two days ago and then John Groom from last week,

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Speaker 1: do you think whoever has all these emails is slow

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Speaker 1: trickling these out to kind of control this for sure,

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Speaker 1: days at a time, weeks at a time. Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the end goal is. What's the

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Speaker 1: endgame for somebody to leak this out, embarrass the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the bigger play.

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Speaker 1: And you're taking people down. I don't know. So why

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, if I'm the commissioner, I want

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Speaker 1: but we don't know what's going to happen you had,

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Speaker 1: you know, the allegations that are in there. They're trying

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Speaker 1: them go away, and I'm not sure. It just feels

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Speaker 1: like this is going to continue to leak out. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So if the commissioner wanted to speak, he'd have to

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Speaker 1: So that's even questionable too. Whatever he does say is

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Speaker 1: all going to be contrived stuff that the owners going

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Speaker 1: to go over with him. Oh, I don't think this

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Speaker 1: run this by the owner like Jerry Jones, Hey, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about this? He's got to I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's the commissioner of the NFL, but I guess he

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Speaker 1: talking here. But now he doesn't run anything by the

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Speaker 1: owners with something like this. You know, he would have

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Speaker 1: a press release. But I think that you should be

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Speaker 1: What else is on there. But I think that this

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Speaker 1: is maybe the NFL trying to protect the owners from themselves.

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Speaker 1: But hey, you know, commissioners not concerned about it. I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be right. What a week? All right? Coming up

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Speaker 1: next hour Harold Reynolds talk about the Dodgers moving on

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Speaker 1: more phone calls as well. Back after this one more item.

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